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Hagar

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Nov 6, 2009, 7:51:34 PM11/6/09
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... in such a short time ...Requires no iteration ..

Warning: May be too complicated for dense Liberal skulls ...
If mental density persists, remove rose colored Obama glasses ...

Requires no iteration ..
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgfwg98t_117gkchhg69


Rex

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:16:13 AM11/7/09
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Well, Bush/Cheney bled your country dry in the name of a phony war for 8
years, sit looking the other way while Bernie Maddoff and Lehmann Bros.
went topside last year, the aftershocks hit now after they've gone, and
suddenly Obama's somehow responsible?

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3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.


Talkin Horse

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Nov 7, 2009, 1:48:24 AM11/7/09
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"Rex" <rexdudeREMOVEA...@liam.ur> wrote in message
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> Hagar wrote:
>> ... in such a short time ...Requires no iteration ..
>>
>> Warning: May be too complicated for dense Liberal skulls ...
>> If mental density persists, remove rose colored Obama glasses ...
>>
>> Requires no iteration ..
>> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgfwg98t_117gkchhg69
>>
>>
> Well, Bush/Cheney bled your country dry in the name of a phony war for 8
> years, sit looking the other way while Bernie Maddoff and Lehmann Bros.
> went topside last year, the aftershocks hit now after they've gone, and
> suddenly Obama's somehow responsible?

I think it has become painfully obvious that Obama is not responsible.

Rex

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Nov 7, 2009, 5:18:04 AM11/7/09
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Tell that to Hagar. I'd say Obama's got too much pressure to clear
things up- people expect Jesus like miracles, like he'll suddenly wave a
magic wand and turn 8 years of screwups around in an instant.

It's also amusing that the big corporations who keep railing against
government interference come and ask the same govt. to bail them out
because 'they cannot be allowed to fail'.
And fat cat executives give themselves bonuses using the stimulus money
that was provided by US tax payers.
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HVAC

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Nov 7, 2009, 6:08:01 AM11/7/09
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"Rex" <rexdudeREMOVEA...@liam.ur> wrote in message
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>
> It's also amusing that the big corporations who keep railing against
> government interference come and ask the same govt. to bail them out
> because 'they cannot be allowed to fail'.
> And fat cat executives give themselves bonuses using the stimulus money
> that was provided by US tax payers.


And as we citizens squabble among ourselves, trillions
of dollars of our money vanishes.

.....But look at all we got for our money.


--
Chaos, calamity, and disorder are my brothers now.


vtcapo

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:05:51 AM11/7/09
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Hagar you are just making the point that Obama had this put on his
plate. The turn around will come but it will take time. Clinton,
Bush and Company fucked it up and it will not be an overnite fix.
I tell you one thing, it's about time the American public gets a bail
out. Best way to do that is with Universal Healthcare.....

RT

_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:49:13 AM11/7/09
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The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money.
Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.

Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't.
So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.

“Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for:
“ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes,
lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.

it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil.
Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants
while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.

Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars
( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !

HVAC

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Nov 7, 2009, 8:59:57 AM11/7/09
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"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hagar you are just making the point that Obama had this put on his
plate. The turn around will come but it will take time. Clinton,
Bush and Company fucked it up and it will not be an overnite fix.
I tell you one thing, it's about time the American public gets a bail
out. Best way to do that is with Universal Healthcare.....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

With the trillions spent so far we could have freed
the United States from dependence on oil.

Instead, we squandered the money and wound up with
nothing for it.

All you have to do is look where the money went to
see who is Obama's puppeteer.


--
An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.


vtcapo

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:18:17 AM11/7/09
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It's now or never for Universal Healthcare. When it passes and it
will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those
who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out
of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and
nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It
will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just
don't want it to go down that way.

RT
PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......

_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:05:14 AM11/7/09
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Yes, the AARP and the AMA would get EVEN RICHER if they could
force the poorest among us to either buy health insurance or go to jail.
This is the CHOICE and HOPE Obama that was talking about.

Living on credit ( to make housing·costs soar ever higher ) is key.
God Forbid the price of houses ( or stocks ) should come back to earth !

Tighten belts ? Hell no !

Obama quintupled the price of rolling tobacco, to hit the poorest.
Then he took over AIG, Fannie and Freddie... his latest lovers.

The Democrats are pissing in their beds.

Hagar

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:13:42 AM11/7/09
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***********************************
FYI:
The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US.
Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying
that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.

AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of
three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they
felt AARP sold them out.


vtcapo

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Nov 7, 2009, 12:06:43 PM11/7/09
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I bet you and Sgall still have your AARP cards and use them for any
available discounts just like you will take advantage of SS and
Medicare, two Socialist programs. Universal Healthcare is coming. Buck
up and accept another Socialist program when the public option is put
in place.

RT

Double-A

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:47:12 PM11/7/09
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On Nov 7, 5:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
> The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money.


Yes.


> Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.


If credit became unavailable, house prices would indeed fall back to
earth. So would car prices, and a lot of other things. We are living
now in a false economy of credit that inevitably will collapse sooner
or later.


> Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't.
> So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.


Only because so many people own houses and stocks. Now that I am no
longer invested in those things, I must confess that I watch with
great glee the tumbling of house prices and the DOW!


> “Universal Healthcare” is an euphemism for:
> “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excise taxes,
>   lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.


And yet the current "universal healthcare system" pays for itself
through excessive health insurance rates on those who carry the
insurance, which might be an employer, but in many cases are the
individuals themselves. There needs to be a way to broaden the base
of support. The conservative approach (and I don't think there are
many true conservatives around) would be to eliminate health insurance
altogether so that market forces could prevail in setting the price of
medicine. With that and a few other changes, believe me we would see
a return to affordable health care costs. The new leaner breed of
doctors would be willing to settle for a basket of eggs in payment,
and might even make house calls!


> it's nuts.  AIG is doing fine though,


I see companies like AIG as just skimmers!


> as is Exxon·Mobil.
> Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants
> while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.


That money can be taxed, you know . How come nobody today is
interested in a confiscatory windfall profits tax like we had back in
the 70's? Unlike criminal laws, taxes can and have been imposed
retroactively too!


> Last year ( 20'08 ) its  after·tax profit  was 45 giga·dollars
> ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ).  Allahu akbar !


Of course if you take away that money, the yaught and yaught service
industry (Brad) will suffer.

Double-A

Hagar

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:01:47 PM11/7/09
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******************************************
Never belonged to AARP. Paid into SS all of my life and I'll gladly take
all of what I paid into the bankrupt system in a lump sum payment and
be done with it. Ditto for Medicare. We paid for it, but now you loser
dicks accuse us of scamming the system ??
Unlike you leeches, we would have much rather invested the money
ourselves and taken the proceeds/losses, rather than having the Nigger
totally fuck it up. It just shows how brainwashed you retarded loons are.
You need Nanny care ... real men don't.


_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:33:10 PM11/7/09
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Yacht sales&repair won't save Brad Guth, nothing will.

He'll forever be seeing “Rabbi Hitlers” around every corner,
out to get him, all the while pretending they're atheists,
not die-hard Zionist Jews.

BradGuth

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:13:40 AM11/8/09
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Only the middle and upper class boating/yachting has suffered, whereas
the truly rich, powerful and kosher approved types have only recently
gotten richer and more powerful.

In California there are still residential garages worth more than most
PNW yachts. PNW family boating got screwed as of before 9/11. Most
uncovered moorage will now cost you nearly what the monthly cost of
what the boat is worth, and covered moorage can easily run 1+ times
the monthly cost of buying your boat/yacht.

Less than 10% of private boat/yacht owners can truly afford the fuel
they burn, and much less to properly maintain their equipment.

~ BG

_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:37:10 AM11/8/09
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All CHOICE, HOPE and DIGNITY has been reserved for Obama;

Double-A

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Nov 8, 2009, 4:29:27 PM11/8/09
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They say there are two happiest days in a boat owner's life: The day
he buys the boat, and the day he sells the boat!

Double-A

BradGuth

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:58:22 PM11/8/09
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That's only because they refused to listen to logic and to pay for
reasonable services from experienced folks similar to myself. The
common buy, own, operate, maintain and sell phases of a given boat/
yacht haven't changed, but those factors of these owners being easily
snookered and continually dumbfounded past the point of no return have
far exceeded my wildest dreams.

Almost everything about modern boat/yacht technology has gotten way to
gadget fussy and complex to safely or much less reliably and
efficiently utilize. 99% of those go-fast yachts hardly ever or
wouldn't dare go fast, and when they try it's either horrifically
spendy and/or stuff breaks or simply fails to function, not to mention
needlessly scaring others by essentially placing their lives at risk.
In other words, it's pretty much all for looks, not function.

My past arguments with clients to power-down and simplify matters are
all "should have been and could have been" sorts of "I told you
so's". Therefore, everyone lost (including myself). One of my most
recent Jewish clients that clearly was given way more loot than brains
had a pathetic little boat that wasn't safe at the dock, as well as
the dock itself was a piece of crap that perhaps only a Jew could
love, and his fancy looking home as a Lake Washington mansion was a
perfect example of what sorts of exotic outfitting, poor quality
workmanship and lack of maintenance not to do, and I could tell you
lots more about this turkey, as well about his silly boat and home(s),
but it only gets worse (especially if I include two of his kids).

~ BG

thunder...@gmail.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:33:53 PM11/8/09
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On Nov 6, 7:51 pm, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote:

Hagar,
Keep up the good work!!!

Many of us oppose these swine!

BradGuth

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:29:25 AM11/9/09
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On Nov 8, 9:07 pm, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
> Obama gave us a CHOICE: Buy health insurance or go to jail.
>
> As the Health·Care Bill stands now (Sunday),
> the penalty for not buying Health Insurance is
> 2.5 percent of your wages... it's another wage tax.
>
> What happens if you don't pay your wage taxes ?
>
> If you want less of something (i.e. jobs) just tax it more.
>
> CHOICE, HOPE and DIGNITY have been reserved for Obama, no one else.

?

Hagar

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RT
*********************************
Since you're one of the new age math teachers, applying your
"fuzzy math" can predict just about any outcome you want.
But if you apply the kind of math the average family uses,
you can't spend more than you take in. The money has to
come from somewhere ... ooops, I forgot, the Government
can give itself a pay raise any time it wants ... by fucking over
us. The healthcare system is indeed broken. However, the
correct fix involves denying lawyers the gravy train of
frivolous tort suits and restricting competition among
insurance companies, who try their best to keep it that way
by stuffing politician's re-election coffers.
So don't tell me the Government has my or your interest at
heart ... their main objective is keeping themselves in power
and in control of the money trough, they all love to feed on.


H.

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:32:49 PM11/9/09
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~ BG
==========================================
???? Can anyone explain this rant?
H.


Hagar

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:01:04 PM11/9/09
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Even my K00K to English interpreter blew a fuse when it tried to
decipher this moron's blathering brain-farts ...


HVAC

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:47:48 PM11/9/09
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"H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
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>


Did you really read it? LOL


Hagar

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:06:20 PM11/9/09
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"Rex" <rexdudeREMOVEA...@liam.ur> wrote in message
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Let's not forget who had the majority in the House during those evil Bush
years ... everything that went wrong THEY ALL VOTED ON IT !!
Know how mentally limited you Liberals are, GWB will be your boogey
man for the next decade.


Notroll2009

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:31:14 PM11/9/09
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"Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote in message
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You must remember that most of Hagar's posts are the posts of a defeated
man. He realizes his future is grim and lashes out as a defense. The sad
part is that even if Hagar's fantasy world (Republicans control both houses
of Congress and the White House) comes to pass, his destiny remains
unchanged. Indeed it would worsen as even more blue collar jobs would
disappear; financial giants would extract even more from the lower-middle
and middle class and the education needed to get a good job will not be
available to the likes of Hagar. Pity.


Nightcrawler

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:43:23 PM11/9/09
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"H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message news:38_Jm.13936$de6...@newsfe21.iad...

> ???? Can anyone explain this rant?
> H.

When Sirius trines Venus and Selene, evil rays bombard
Eden sterilizing the surface for the return of the Masters.


H.

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:56:37 AM11/10/09
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"Nightcrawler" <Dirty...@dirtcheap.net> wrote in
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And here I thought that the difference between a
chickens left leg was. . .

Because it is colder in the winter than it is in the
city.
H.


H.

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"Notroll2009" <jun...@charter.net> wrote in message
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====================================================
Are you insane?
H.


Nightcrawler

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:00:51 AM11/10/09
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"H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message news:fbfKm.4706$ky1....@newsfe14.iad...

> And here I thought that the difference between a chickens left leg was. . .
>
> Because it is colder in the winter than it is in the city.
> H.

I see your point...

More deep fryers in the city than in the winter.

How do you explain bon bon's in the summer?


Hagar

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"Nightcrawler" <Dirty...@dirtcheap.net> wrote in message
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We must consult the great GuthBall on thin conundrum ...


Nightcrawler

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"Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote in message news:Db-dneQ_CNOLGWTX...@giganews.com...

> We must consult the great GuthBall on thin conundrum ...

Are you Sirius?


Hagar

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"Nightcrawler" <Dirty...@dirtcheap.net> wrote in message
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Would I dare to "Moon" you ??


Hagar

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"H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in message
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H, .we should really ignore those hapless loons, they don't know any better.
They never held any jobs that gave them a sense of accomplishment or
purpose, other than retirement, so they can suckle on the Federal tit.
Truly the rantings of a Liberal morons. I just love the way they spin
things ... it's about the only thing at which they excel ... if it ain't for
real
(stimulus, healthcare, cash for clunkers etc) they can make it so, with
a little Obama jig and some of that good ole 'bama Kool Aid..


Nightcrawler

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:12:26 PM11/10/09
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"Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote in message news:itidnXobLNvGOmTX...@giganews.com...

>> Are you Sirius?
>>
> Would I dare to "Moon" you ??

Regardless, I'm getting some Venusian blinds.


"The Great One"

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"Nightcrawler" <Dirty...@dirtcheap.net> wrote in message news:hdcp08$d30$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

Those will look good in your space-ship as you orbit around Uranus looking for Klingons !!
--
John C (Capt. Kirk's Great-grampa)

Sure,Not

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:43:53 AM11/23/09
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On Nov 7, 10:01 pm, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote:
> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6acb8e4a-a8f8-4052...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 7, 11:13 am, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:f93ebd5e-e6fa-446b...@n35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 7, 8:49 am, _@Jeff_Relf.Seattle.inValid wrote:
>
> > > The governement (and the people) should stop living on borrowed money.
> > > Take your lumps, cut back, let house prices fall back to earth.
>
> > > Do you rejoice when the price of ramen soup goes up ? no, you don't.
> > > So why rejoice when house prices ( or the DOW ) soar ? ! it's nuts.
>
> > > “UniversalHealthcare” is an euphemism for:

> > > “ lets hit the poorest with ever·more wage/excisetaxes,
> > > lets keep the ‘Labor Force Participation Rate’ at all·time lows. ”.
>
> > > it's nuts. AIG is doing fine though, as is Exxon·Mobil.
> > > Exxon·Mobil is free to spend its 113 giga·dollar net·worth as it wants
> > > while enjoying its 228 giga·dollars (.23 tera·dollars) in gross assets.
>
> > > Last year ( 20'08 ) its after·tax profit was 45 giga·dollars
> > > ( on sales of 477 giga·dollars ). Allahu akbar !
>
> > It's now or never for UniversalHealthcare. When it passes and it

> > will or the system will collapse, this will be Obamas legacy. Those
> > who oppose it, the Republicans the rich, know it will mostly come out
> > of their pockets not the poor. Republicans are fighting this tooth and
> > nail because it will be the greatest social change since medicare. It
> > will have been brought to fruition by the Democrats and they just
> > don't want it to go down that way.
>
> > RT
> > PS AARP and the AMA just endorsed the latest bill. Get ready......
>
> > ***********************************
> > FYI:
> > The AMA only represents a small number of doctors in the US.
> > Depending whom you listen to, it is 20 to 22%. It's like saying
> > that Sears is the spokesman for all the nation's retail stores.
>
> > AARP is losing membership right and left. I personally know of
> > three people who didn't renew their annual membership, since they
> > felt AARP sold them out.
>
> I bet you and Sgall still have your AARP cards and use them for any
> available discounts just like you will take advantage of SS and
> Medicare, two Socialist programs. UniversalHealthcareis coming. Buck

> up and accept another Socialist program when the public option is put
> in place.
>
>         ******************************************
> Never belonged to AARP.  Paid into SS all of my life and I'll gladly take
> all of what I paid into the bankrupt system in a lump sum payment and
> be done with it.  Ditto for Medicare. We paid for it, but now you loser
> dicks accuse us of scamming the system ??
> Unlike you leeches, we would have much rather invested the money
> ourselves and taken the proceeds/losses, rather than having the Nigger
> totally fuck it up.  It just shows how brainwashed you retarded loons are.
> You need Nanny care ... real men don't.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Depends on your age. I'd be willing to get nothing back from SS and
Medicare provided I pay no taxes on my 401k, IRA, etc.

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