Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss
Underground Bases. Part 2 of 2.
3 views
Skip to first unread message
John Winston
Apr 13, 2012, 1:52:19 AM4/13/12
to
Subject: Underground Bases.
April 12, 2012
This talks about some underground facilities underneath Germany.
.................................................
.................................................
However, it did play a crucial role in the N-zi w-r effort and constructed
many facilities for use by the German m-litary and industry..
Some of the underground structures that it built were impressively
large and sophisticated.
In 1942 Fritz T-dt was k-lled in an airplane crash and by wa-'s end
control of the agency had effectively passed to Xaver D-rsch. In the
closing stages of the war, Hi-ler specifically tasked Do-sch with
developing a series of huge, underground, industrial manufacturing
facilities.
Allied bombing raids were shredding German manufacturing and the Na-i
command wanted to shift production underground, out of reach of
American and British b-mbs. The collapse of the Third Reich ultimately
put an end to those plans.
I remain persuaded, however, that a great deal of what the Allies found
when they went into Germany remains c-assified to the present day, and
that includes the full extent of the underground facilities built by the
Tod- Organization.
Xaver D-rsch was taken pri-oner by the A-erican mi-itary on 7 May
1945. I have two moderately lengthy documents that he wrote for the
Amer-cans, evidently as part of his debriefing by them. 4 One was
produced in 1946, the other in 1949-1950.
The documents deal with the administrative structure and operational
activities of the To-t Organization during the -ar. I strongly suspect
that Do-sch supplied a great deal more information to his Ameri-an
captors during that period that has yet publicly to see the light of
day.
Xaver Do-sch may even have worked directly for the Ame-ican mi-itary
on the construction of se-ret, underground bases in the USA, just as he
had done for the Na-is during the Third Reich.
It is a fact that he was in Amer-can mili-ary captivity and was requested
specifically by Project Paperclip.
During the course of my research I spoke with an expert who is
personally familiar with some of the -azi underground constructions in
Europe and his observation to me was that they were very well made
facilities.
One of the best accounts of such facilities that I have found in the
open literature is the anecdotal history related by Colonel Robert S.
A-len that details what General Patton's army discovered when it entered
Germany in the closing stage of World Wa- II.
Col. All-n revealed that Patton's forces found four large underground
bases in the vicinity of the grim Naz- concentration camp near Ohrdruf,
Germany; other underground facilities were reported in nearby towns.
Col. All-n provided the following description: The underground
installations were amazing. They were literally subterranean towns.
There were four in and around Ohrdruf.
None were natural caverns or mines. All were man-made mili-ary
installations. The horror camp had provided the labor. An interesting
feature of the construction was the absence of any spoil. It had been
carefully scattered in hills miles away.
Over 50 feet underground, the installations consisted of two and
three stories, several miles in length and extending like the spokes of a
wheel. The entire hull structure was of massive, reinforced concrete.
Purpose of the installations was to house the High Command after it was
bombed out of Berlin. The Ohrdruf installations were to have been used
by the Signal Communications Section.
One, near the horror camp, was a huge telephone exchange equipped
with the latest and finest apparatus. Signal Corps experts estimated
their cost at $10,000,000.
This place also had paneled and carpeted offices, scores of large
work and store rooms, tiled bathrooms with both tubs and showers, flush
toilets, electrically equipped kitchens, decorated dining rooms and mess
halls, giant refrigerators, extensive sleeping quarters, recreation
rooms, separate bars for officers and enlisted personnel, amoving-picture
theater, and air-conditioning and sewage systems. Begun in 1944, the
installations had been completed but never occupied. [5]
The Regenwurmlager in Poland
Another spectacular example of N-zi underground engineering prowess
was the subterranean Regenwurmlager complex that still sprawls for
many miles deep beneath the countryside of western Poland. Several
years ago Paul S-onehill wrote an eye-opening article about this site,
replete with color photos, in FATE magazine. [6]
The Regenwurmlager was an obvious Na-i analog on the eastern
German border region to the well-known Maginot Line that the French
had built in their eastern border region, in that it also, like the
Maginot Line, was comprised of many miles of underground tunnels
and electric train lines connecting bunkers, fortifications and
other critical mili-ry facilities.
Amazingly, the full extent of the huge complex is not known, even
today. It is not known if either the Poles or the Russians have ever
fully explored the many miles of tunnels and underground emplacements.
According to St-nehill, the facility has many se-ret or hidden
entrances, and an underground subway system with an electric train on
rails that ran through a tunnel approximately 100 to 165 feet below the
surface.
On the surface, there were numerous milit-ry fortifications and
bunkers crammed with we-ponry, connected by sec-et passages to a
sprawling labyrinth of tunnels below ground, said to be 30 miles or more
in length.
Stone-ill reports that Adolf H-tler is alleged to have visited the
Regenwurmlager in 1937, riding in on the underground subway train. [7]
It happens that the Regenwurmlager complex of mil-tary bunkers and
underground tunnels and subway trains was located in territory that was
overrun by Soviet troops in the closing stages of World -ar II, so the
Ameri-an mi-itary may never have examined the facility.
However, I consider it very likely that Xaver Do-sch would have had
personal knowledge of this facility, and it is quite likely that he
extensively briefed his American captors on the large Regenwurmlager
system of underground tunnels and bunkers.
This book cannot provide an exhaustive treatment of Na-i underground
facilities, but the examples provided suffice to demonstrate that 65 to
75 years ago, -azi engineers already had a sophisticated capability to
construct elaborate, large facilities underground.
The Am-rican mi-itary understood this clearly at w-r's end, and
urgently wanted to bring Na-i experts to the U-A to build underground
facilities here also.
By the time you finish this book, you should understand that this mission
was accomplished.
While we still do not know the full scope of what the N-zis did
underground decades ago, we also still do not know the full extent of
what the Ame-ican m-litary, and other agencies and corporations, have
built underground right here in the US-, and elsewhere in the world.
What can be said with certainty is that an extensive program of
secr-t underground construction began in earnest in the years
following WW II and that program continues in effect to this day.
In part 2 of this exclusive series we will be discussing known
locations of underground bases as well as areas believed to house
the bigger, more se-retive ones. At the conclusion of this 5 part
series we will be conducting a major roundtable discussion on the
the topic.
Please spread this article and the entire series to your friends and
family!
Sources
1. Lloyd A. D-scha, Underground Facilities for D-fense Experience
and Lessons, in Tunneling and Underground Transport: Future
Developments in Technology, Economics and Policy, ed. F.P.
D-vidson (New York: Elsevier Science Publishing Company, Inc.,
1987), pp. 109-113.
2. Ibid.
3. Ibid.
4. Xaver Di-lomingenieur, Former Head of the Chief Office of the
Organisation To-t, The Organization Tod- in France and Germany,
Steinlager Al-endorf, 1 September 1946. Also, Xaver Dor-ch,
Organization T-dt (Do-sch Project), MS # P-037, English Copy,
translated by G. We-er, edited by J.B. Ro-inson, reviewed by Capt.
W.F. R-ss, Foreign Mil-tary Studies Branch, Historical Division,
Headquarters United S-ates Army Europe, 1949-1950.
5. Colonel Robert S. All-n, Lucky Forward: The History of Patton's
Third Army (New York: The Vanguard Press, Inc., 1947).
6. Paul Stonehill, Secrets of the Regenwurmlager, FATE vol. 55 no.
10 issue 631 (November 2002): 28-33.
7. Ibid.
8. From Zero To 300 In 60 Seconds Otis High-Speed Elevator Systems
Selected For Landmark 88-story Melbourne Tower,
http://www.otis.com/news/newsdetail/0,1368,CLI23_NID11699_RES1,00.html,
2002.
9. Micro Craft Does Major Business,
http://www.microcraft.com/InsideOutlook/WN_tenn.htm, 2002.
10. World's Fastest Elevator,
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/2004/3/elevator/print.phtml,
2004.
11. Jason Go-dwin, Otis: Giving Rise to the Modern City (Chicago:
Ivan R. Dee, 2001).
12. Timothy G-od, Alien Contact: Top-Se-ret UFO Files Revealed (New
York: Quill, William Morrow, 1993).
Join to Receive Exclusive Intel Hub News Alerts and Podcasts
Related Articles And Research From The Intel Hub Vorticular Madness
Of The Dark Magicians An Example of How Our Infrastructure Is
Being Sold To Foreign Corporations Infiniti To Build Red Bull-Flavored
Peformance Model? Motor Authority Driving Inside the Soviets Se-ret
Submarine Lair.
Part 2 of 2.
John Winston. joh...@mlode.com
April 12, 2012
This talks about some underground facilities underneath Germany.
.................................................
.................................................
However, it did play a crucial role in the N-zi w-r effort and constructed
many facilities for use by the German m-litary and industry..
Some of the underground structures that it built were impressively
large and sophisticated.
In 1942 Fritz T-dt was k-lled in an airplane crash and by wa-'s end
control of the agency had effectively passed to Xaver D-rsch. In the
closing stages of the war, Hi-ler specifically tasked Do-sch with
developing a series of huge, underground, industrial manufacturing
facilities.
Allied bombing raids were shredding German manufacturing and the Na-i
command wanted to shift production underground, out of reach of
American and British b-mbs. The collapse of the Third Reich ultimately
put an end to those plans.
I remain persuaded, however, that a great deal of what the Allies found
when they went into Germany remains c-assified to the present day, and
that includes the full extent of the underground facilities built by the
Tod- Organization.
Xaver D-rsch was taken pri-oner by the A-erican mi-itary on 7 May
1945. I have two moderately lengthy documents that he wrote for the
Amer-cans, evidently as part of his debriefing by them. 4 One was
produced in 1946, the other in 1949-1950.
The documents deal with the administrative structure and operational
activities of the To-t Organization during the -ar. I strongly suspect
that Do-sch supplied a great deal more information to his Ameri-an
captors during that period that has yet publicly to see the light of
day.
Xaver Do-sch may even have worked directly for the Ame-ican mi-itary
on the construction of se-ret, underground bases in the USA, just as he
had done for the Na-is during the Third Reich.
It is a fact that he was in Amer-can mili-ary captivity and was requested
specifically by Project Paperclip.
During the course of my research I spoke with an expert who is
personally familiar with some of the -azi underground constructions in
Europe and his observation to me was that they were very well made
facilities.
One of the best accounts of such facilities that I have found in the
open literature is the anecdotal history related by Colonel Robert S.
A-len that details what General Patton's army discovered when it entered
Germany in the closing stage of World Wa- II.
Col. All-n revealed that Patton's forces found four large underground
bases in the vicinity of the grim Naz- concentration camp near Ohrdruf,
Germany; other underground facilities were reported in nearby towns.
Col. All-n provided the following description: The underground
installations were amazing. They were literally subterranean towns.
There were four in and around Ohrdruf.
None were natural caverns or mines. All were man-made mili-ary
installations. The horror camp had provided the labor. An interesting
feature of the construction was the absence of any spoil. It had been
carefully scattered in hills miles away.
Over 50 feet underground, the installations consisted of two and
three stories, several miles in length and extending like the spokes of a
wheel. The entire hull structure was of massive, reinforced concrete.
Purpose of the installations was to house the High Command after it was
bombed out of Berlin. The Ohrdruf installations were to have been used
by the Signal Communications Section.
One, near the horror camp, was a huge telephone exchange equipped
with the latest and finest apparatus. Signal Corps experts estimated
their cost at $10,000,000.
This place also had paneled and carpeted offices, scores of large
work and store rooms, tiled bathrooms with both tubs and showers, flush
toilets, electrically equipped kitchens, decorated dining rooms and mess
halls, giant refrigerators, extensive sleeping quarters, recreation
rooms, separate bars for officers and enlisted personnel, amoving-picture
theater, and air-conditioning and sewage systems. Begun in 1944, the
installations had been completed but never occupied. [5]
The Regenwurmlager in Poland
Another spectacular example of N-zi underground engineering prowess
was the subterranean Regenwurmlager complex that still sprawls for
many miles deep beneath the countryside of western Poland. Several
years ago Paul S-onehill wrote an eye-opening article about this site,
replete with color photos, in FATE magazine. [6]
The Regenwurmlager was an obvious Na-i analog on the eastern
German border region to the well-known Maginot Line that the French
had built in their eastern border region, in that it also, like the
Maginot Line, was comprised of many miles of underground tunnels
and electric train lines connecting bunkers, fortifications and
other critical mili-ry facilities.
Amazingly, the full extent of the huge complex is not known, even
today. It is not known if either the Poles or the Russians have ever
fully explored the many miles of tunnels and underground emplacements.
According to St-nehill, the facility has many se-ret or hidden
entrances, and an underground subway system with an electric train on
rails that ran through a tunnel approximately 100 to 165 feet below the
surface.
On the surface, there were numerous milit-ry fortifications and
bunkers crammed with we-ponry, connected by sec-et passages to a
sprawling labyrinth of tunnels below ground, said to be 30 miles or more
in length.
Stone-ill reports that Adolf H-tler is alleged to have visited the
Regenwurmlager in 1937, riding in on the underground subway train. [7]
It happens that the Regenwurmlager complex of mil-tary bunkers and
underground tunnels and subway trains was located in territory that was
overrun by Soviet troops in the closing stages of World -ar II, so the
Ameri-an mi-itary may never have examined the facility.
However, I consider it very likely that Xaver Do-sch would have had
personal knowledge of this facility, and it is quite likely that he
extensively briefed his American captors on the large Regenwurmlager
system of underground tunnels and bunkers.
This book cannot provide an exhaustive treatment of Na-i underground
facilities, but the examples provided suffice to demonstrate that 65 to
75 years ago, -azi engineers already had a sophisticated capability to
construct elaborate, large facilities underground.
The Am-rican mi-itary understood this clearly at w-r's end, and
urgently wanted to bring Na-i experts to the U-A to build underground
facilities here also.
By the time you finish this book, you should understand that this mission
was accomplished.
While we still do not know the full scope of what the N-zis did
underground decades ago, we also still do not know the full extent of
what the Ame-ican m-litary, and other agencies and corporations, have
built underground right here in the US-, and elsewhere in the world.
What can be said with certainty is that an extensive program of
secr-t underground construction began in earnest in the years
following WW II and that program continues in effect to this day.
In part 2 of this exclusive series we will be discussing known
locations of underground bases as well as areas believed to house
the bigger, more se-retive ones. At the conclusion of this 5 part
series we will be conducting a major roundtable discussion on the
the topic.
Please spread this article and the entire series to your friends and
family!
Sources
1. Lloyd A. D-scha, Underground Facilities for D-fense Experience
and Lessons, in Tunneling and Underground Transport: Future
Developments in Technology, Economics and Policy, ed. F.P.
D-vidson (New York: Elsevier Science Publishing Company, Inc.,
1987), pp. 109-113.
2. Ibid.
3. Ibid.
4. Xaver Di-lomingenieur, Former Head of the Chief Office of the
Organisation To-t, The Organization Tod- in France and Germany,
Steinlager Al-endorf, 1 September 1946. Also, Xaver Dor-ch,
Organization T-dt (Do-sch Project), MS # P-037, English Copy,
translated by G. We-er, edited by J.B. Ro-inson, reviewed by Capt.
W.F. R-ss, Foreign Mil-tary Studies Branch, Historical Division,
Headquarters United S-ates Army Europe, 1949-1950.
5. Colonel Robert S. All-n, Lucky Forward: The History of Patton's
Third Army (New York: The Vanguard Press, Inc., 1947).
6. Paul Stonehill, Secrets of the Regenwurmlager, FATE vol. 55 no.
10 issue 631 (November 2002): 28-33.
7. Ibid.
8. From Zero To 300 In 60 Seconds Otis High-Speed Elevator Systems
Selected For Landmark 88-story Melbourne Tower,
http://www.otis.com/news/newsdetail/0,1368,CLI23_NID11699_RES1,00.html,
2002.
9. Micro Craft Does Major Business,
http://www.microcraft.com/InsideOutlook/WN_tenn.htm, 2002.
10. World's Fastest Elevator,
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/2004/3/elevator/print.phtml,
2004.
11. Jason Go-dwin, Otis: Giving Rise to the Modern City (Chicago:
Ivan R. Dee, 2001).
12. Timothy G-od, Alien Contact: Top-Se-ret UFO Files Revealed (New
York: Quill, William Morrow, 1993).
Join to Receive Exclusive Intel Hub News Alerts and Podcasts
Related Articles And Research From The Intel Hub Vorticular Madness
Of The Dark Magicians An Example of How Our Infrastructure Is
Being Sold To Foreign Corporations Infiniti To Build Red Bull-Flavored
Peformance Model? Motor Authority Driving Inside the Soviets Se-ret
Submarine Lair.
Part 2 of 2.
John Winston. joh...@mlode.com
Sir Gilligan Horry
Apr 13, 2012, 12:04:00 PM4/13/12
to
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:52:19 -0700, "John Winston" <joh...@mlode.com>
wrote:
>Underground Bases.
Underground Bases.
And Ice-Cream Vans ...
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/classic-car-images/icecream3.jpg
_____________________________
___
Alt Alien Research Intelligence Agency Official Admiral Wizzard.
(i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/SirGilliganHorry/Alien_UFO_Research_Intelligence_Agency.jpg)
... here... http://bit.ly/gsYSvc
"Project Mothership" UFOs Aliens Proof Evidence...
http://www.geocities.ws/project_mothership/
Documentary "WATER" ... by Saida Medvedeva.
Beautiful Documentary ...
http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html
For Those Who Want To Know...
http://www.WantToKnow.info
Best Aliens UFOs Videos Proof Evidence...
http://BestAliensUFOsVideos.blogspot.com
Aliens UFOs Extraterrestrials Videos Documentaries...
http://YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency
___
wrote:
>Underground Bases.
Underground Bases.
And Ice-Cream Vans ...
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/classic-car-images/icecream3.jpg
_____________________________
___
Alt Alien Research Intelligence Agency Official Admiral Wizzard.
(i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/SirGilliganHorry/Alien_UFO_Research_Intelligence_Agency.jpg)
... here... http://bit.ly/gsYSvc
"Project Mothership" UFOs Aliens Proof Evidence...
http://www.geocities.ws/project_mothership/
Documentary "WATER" ... by Saida Medvedeva.
Beautiful Documentary ...
http://www.voiceentertainment.net/movies/watermovie.html
For Those Who Want To Know...
http://www.WantToKnow.info
Best Aliens UFOs Videos Proof Evidence...
http://BestAliensUFOsVideos.blogspot.com
Aliens UFOs Extraterrestrials Videos Documentaries...
http://YouTube.com/JimsSpaceAgency
___
0 new messages