Can we all agree to eliminate ALL DEBUNKERS once and for all/History of debunking
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
on THIS PLANET EARTH once and for all?? Of course I am talking about
the scourge of debunkers (and their ilk!). This cancerous blight has
taken an enormous tool on the human population and it is way past time
to repel and destroy the most evil of evil and hated of hated. Once
the debunkers are finally eradicated from this world, the entire globe
will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace, liberty and justice
for all. AMEN!!
UFO Debunkers: A Dangerous "Cult" or Super Patriots?/ The History of
UFO Debunking!
The standing joke among UFO circles is for every 200 UFO
sightings, the Air Force can explain away 201. The possibility that
our Government might withhold or distort information about UFOs might
seem farfetched, until you read the mountains of evidence compiled
from the Government's own files. Evidence that strongly suggests a
cover-up. The U.S. Military first started seeing UFOs in World War
II, pilots called them "Foo Fighters." We thought they were a German
secret weapon, the German's thought they were ours. An explosion of
civilian sightings in 1947 caught the military by surprise. Top
secret investigations were begun. A joint study by the FBI and Army
concluded, "The flying saucer situation is not all imaginary,
something is really flying around." That report was kept secret until
1976.
Most early UFO sightings were made by eyewitnesses and not
radar. In New Mexico, over a two year period, dozens of people
reported seeing green fire-balls over sensitive military
installations. But when radar and cameras were dispatched to those
installations, the fire-balls mysteriously shifted someplace else. A
1949 study by scientists at Los Alamos Lab stated, "The fireballs
deserve serious consideration.".
Some have suggested that the saucer craze of the 1940's and
1950's was a by-product of Cold War tensions and fears. Both the U.S.
and the U.S.S.R. conducted secret studies to find out if the other
side was behind the UFOs, and both concluded early on that the
capabilities of the flying discs seemed beyond human technology. This
secret report done in 1948 by the Air Force and Naval Intelligence is
among the most fascinating of the UFO documents ever to surface
because it wasn't suppose to exist. A confidential memo at the end of
the report ordered that all copies should be destroyed. But one copy
survived and was finally pried out of the Pentagon in 1985. It's a
study of more than 200 of the earliest UFO sightings, including one
that occurred on June, 1947, near Lake Mead. The report notes that an
Air Force pilot saw a formation of six UFOs, and the UFOs were some
type of flying craft, not weather balloons or hallucinations. The
report made note of the fact that more than a few sighting reports
were made by experienced personnel, and that the origin of flying
saucers was not ascertainable.
The Cold War with the Soviets and Communist countries was heating up.
Strange craft were reported all over our skies, and the news media was
critical of government's explanations. Many people thought the craft
belonged to the Soviet Union or perhaps aliens bent on invasion. There
was fear the Soviets could use UFO propaganda to discredit the US
government. There was genuine concern that a national panic could
occur. Whether UFOs were real or not, the situation made the president
nervous and made the military and the various intelligence agencies
look bad. Plenty of good reports were trickling out that a substantial
number of military aircraft were crashing. Stories started to leak out
that these aircraft were crashing while chasing UFOs. The crashes were
explained as training accidents and mechanical failures, but the news
media was starting to tie the two types of reports together.
The over-all effort to study saucers was called "Project Sign,"
and the headquarters was located at Wright Field in Ohio. In 1949,
Sign personnel wrote a top-secret report, which concluded that, "UFOs
were extra-terrestrial craft." When the report made it to the desk of
the Chief of Staff General Hoyt Vandeberg, he rejected it and ordered
all copies burned. This rejection from the top was in the view of
many, the death knell for any objective study of UFOs. A few weeks
later Project Sign produced another final report stating that it's
findings were "inconclusive." That report was accepted and soon after
Project Sign became Project Grudge. Grudge evaluated reports on the
premise that UFOs could not exist. According to a later report by the
Library of Congress, it was the job of Grudge to explain them all.
Despite this slant, 23% of Grudge cases remained a mystery. Grudge
staffers decided these cases were physiologically motivated, the first
official declaration that people who see UFOs are crazy.
In 1952, there were more sightings than the five previous years
combined, including the two infamous Washington D.C. incidents. Yet
another study was launched, Project Bluebook. Bluebook today is
notorious in UFO circles as a whitewash. There is considerable
evidence the project was far from objective. The man appointed to
head Bluebook, Captain Edward Ruppelt, said he was told in the very
beginning that the 'powers that be' were anti-flying-saucer and to
stay in favor, "it behooves one to follow suit." Ruppelt later
resigned from the military and wrote a book about what he says was the
Bluebook cover-up and the reality of flying saucers. The continued
increase of UFO sightings was a source of great concern for the CIA
and a new strategy was born: "UFO DEBUNKING."
A group of CIA-connected scientists was assembled in secret to
evaluate UFOs. CIA documents reveal that five members of the
Scientific Advisory Panel, who were all well-known skeptics, were
given several poor UFO cases to examine and came to the conclusion
that "there was no evidence of a direct threat to national security in
the objects sighted. Flying saucer reports were overloading emergency
reporting channels with false information, clogging up communication
lines, causing alarm, and realistically even if they were real there
was little we could do about them." Furthermore, the government was
losing the confidence of the people. Our science and aircraft seemed
to be confronted by far superior technology.
The "Robertson Panel" spent all of twelve hours in a round-table
discussion, analyzing only about a handful of UFO cases. The Panel
concluded that, "UFOs are not a threat to national security...but
continued reporting of UFOs is a threat." Their recommendation: The
Government should take immediate steps to strip UFOs of their "aura of
mystery," through a program of public education. The final report
even used the term, "DEBUNKING."
The Robertson Panel discussions and recommendations centered around
the main problem of eradicating belief in these unidentified flying
objects. Ways of using the news media and movies to discredit UFOs
were discussed and placed into action. This resulted in the reduction
of public interest around the reality of flying saucers, which even
today still evokes a strong psychological reaction. Such propaganda
techniques included addressing actual UFO cases, which might have been
puzzling at first but later explained away as natural phenomenon.
The panel also discussed various insidious methods that were often
implemented to execute this debunking program. It was felt strongly
that psychologists familiar with mass psychology should be called in
as advisers to assist with the nature and extent of this program.
These national programs resulted in the National Policy. The end
result was to debunk any valid sighting, even if it resulted in the
embarrassment of pilots and/or government employees. UFO reports were
denied, debunked and those who saw them were soundly and mercilessly
ridiculed.
Timothy Good in his book Above Top Secret writes: Another sinister
recommendation of the panel was that civilian UFO groups should be
watched "because of their potentially great influence on mass thinking
if widespread sightings should occur. The apparent irresponsibility
and the possible use of such groups for subversive purposes should be
kept in mind." The panel concluded that "the continued emphasis on the
reporting these phenomena does, in these parlous times, result in a
threat to the orderly functioning of the protective organs of the body
politic," and recommended:
a. That the national security agencies take immediate steps to strip
the Unidentified Flying Objects of the special status they have been
given and the aura of mystery they have unfortunately acquired.
b. That the national security agencies institute policies on
intelligence, training, and public education designed to prepare the
material defenses and the morale of the country to recognize most
promptly and to react most effectively to true indications of hostile
intent or action.
Shortly thereafter every effort of the government went into debunking
UFOs even if it would mean embarrassing its own people. It soon became
known the best way to destroy your military career was to report a
UFO. Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, Chief of the Aerial Phenomena Branch
at the Air Technical Intelligence Center, said that the CIA ordered
the Air Force to debunk sightings and debunk witnesses. "We're
ordered to hide sightings when possible," he told Major Keyhole, "but
if a strong report does get out we have to publish a fast explanation--
make up something to kill the report in a hurry, and also ridicule the
witness, especially if we can't figure out a plausible answer, even if
we have to discredit our own pilots."
The debunking included spying on UFO witnesses and the infiltration of
UFO organizations by the CIA and FBI. Various effective civilian UFO
organizations have been rendered impotent, and sometimes inactive,
after ex-CIA members have joined their board of directors, the best
example being the ousting of Major Donald Keyhoe from NICAP (National
Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena.). APRO (Aerial
Phenomena Research Organization) head Jim Lorenzen was also put under
CIA surveillance in 1953, after the recommendations of the Robertson
Panel. New federal policy resulting from the Robertson Panel includes
Military Policy Orders AFR 200-2 and JANAP 146, which simultaneously
criminalizes the release by any military personnel of UFO-related
information, but makes the reporting of all sightings to immediate
superiors MANDATORY. The debunking strategy likewise included the
silencing of military personnel through intimidation. Even retired
military personnel risked losing their pension benefits if they talked
about their experiences with UFOs. That ban continues to this day.
For three decades, the Military have publicly scoffed at UFOs but
it has been another matter behind the scenes. A secret order issued
to Air Force base commanders in 1960 stated UFOs should be treated as,
"serious business...directly related to national security." Public
pressures spurred Congress to hold hearing about UFOs in the
mid-1960's and the Air Force decided enough is enough. It
commissioned what was to be the ultimate UFO study, directed by Edward
Condon of the University of Colorado. Condon was a respected
scientist but was hardly impartial about UFOs. Before the study even
began, he said in a speech that "The Government should get out of the
UFO business, there's nothing to it." He later wrote, "The authors of
UFO books should be horsewhipped." There is even evidence that the
studies conclusion were written before the project even began. To the
surprise of few, the committee declared that further study of UFOs
would be a waste of time. The Air Force used this as its reason to
finally end Project Bluebook. UFO researchers have long suspected
that Bluebook was merely for public consumption, that another secret
UFO program existed to handle the most sensitive cases.
The CIA responds to UFO requests in this fashion: "There is no
CIA program to actively collect information on UFOs, nor has there
been one since the 1950's." This statement flies in the face of
numerous reports, squeezed out of the Agency by Freedom of Information
lawsuits. A series of internal memos dated 1976, made repeated
references to "UFO Research"- "UFO Studies"- "CIA-UFO Experts"-and
"Agency personnel who are monitoring the UFO phenomenon." The
reluctance to admit an interest in UFOs dates back to at least 1952,
an internal letter from CIA Weapons Chief states "It is strongly urged
that no indication of CIA interest reach the press or public, in light
of their alarmist tendencies."
Officially, CIA and other government agencies say their lack of
interest is because UFOs pose no threat to national security. Yet,
UFOs have made alarming intrusions at our most sensitive military
bases. As the Washington Post reported, "UFOs visited five separate
nuclear missile launch sites near the Canadian border during a two-
week period in 1975, one right after the other." In a least one case,
UFOs tampered with the launch codes of ICBM missiles. Fighter planes
were unable to catch the UFOs, which makes the government explanation
that those UFOs were "mystery helicopters" seem specious. Mystery
helicopters that can out-race F-16's visiting nuclear missile bases?
If this isn't national security, what is?? Oddly, the government has
used the national security excuse to withhold UFO data. Stan Friedman
fought all the way to the Supreme Court to get UFO documents from the
National Security Agency, and all he got was a summary of the
documents which was over 80% blacked out.
This "explaining away" real UFO cases continues to this day with the
multiple phony accounts of the Roswell extraterrestrial crash given by
the Air Force. Within the span of a single day (July 8, 1947), two
stories were made public: the first one, the correct story as it turns
out, was that a flying disc had been recovered. A few hours later
General Ramey issued a statement that the wreckage was just that of a
weather balloon's radar reflector. 27 years after that in 1993, in
response to the potentially damaging GAO Roswell report, the Air Force
released its now infamous super-secret Project Mogul balloon excuse.
This is the most popular excuse favored by UFO debunkers. Four years
after that in 1997, came the now laughable time-compressed crash-test
dummy explanation which tried to explain the 4 to 5 alien bodies that
were witnessed at the crash site by multiple military and civilian
observers.
Let's ask nuclear physicist Stanton Friedman if it is possible for
the government to completely cover up a story as earth-shaking as
extraterrestrials?
SF: I think it's extraordinarily easy. In the first place, the good
tools for getting the best data all belong to the government. They've
got the radar systems, the closed communication systems, the aircraft
loaded with instrumentation, the Air Defense Command and so forth.
And all that data is born classified. If you were to ask me as a
physicist what I'd like to do to find out about flying saucers, I'd
say, well, you've got to have a system to detect them, then you need
another system to monitor them once you've picked one up, then you
want to communicate back and forth and get guys up there with
instruments as close as you can when they're there. The government's
got all of that, and it's all classified. So, that's the first thing:
they've got a closed system to begin with.
Secondly, when we talk government, we imply--at least some people
do--that everybody knows and nobody's talking. That's not how
security works at all. I had a clearance for 15 years. The "need to
know" concept is most important. As an example of that, I was working
on radiation shielding for nuclear airplanes for General Electric. I
would have liked access to secret restricted data on radiation
shielding being produced by Westinghouse for the nuclear submarine
program. I mean, a shield is a shield. You've got the same
difficulties with light-weight and that sort of thing. I didn't have
a need-to-know for their data. I had the right level of clearance,
but it got me nowhere. So, the key is compartmentalization, which was
honed to a science during World War II by some of the same people who
were apparently involved with UFOs post-War. How did we keep the
Manhattan Project secret as long as we did. Two billion dollars in
1942 money, tens of thousands of people involved in the construction
of enormous facilities that at one point were using eleven percent of
the electricity in the United States, to blow uranium hexaflouride
through little holes in a mile-long building--and yet, it was kept
secret. Secrets are easy to keep, as long as you control the
detection systems, the communications systems, and the interference
systems, if you will. I've talked to a number of people who worked
for Truman and Eisenhower. Every single one agreed that secrets could
have always been kept, at least post-World War II. No problem at all.
Although the case for the flying saucer reality is far better
than the case against most convicted criminals. If you do it on an
evidential basis, you can look at things like Ted Phillips' collected
information on over 4,400 physical trace cases from 79 countries.
These are cases where the saucer is seen on or near the ground, and
after it leaves, one finds clear physical changes such as burn circles
and burn rings, landing gear marks, swirled vegetation, dried out
soil, and so forth. People say there is no physical evidence. Well,
if a footprint and a fingerprint are physical evidence, then the
physical trace cases are certainly physical evidence. And the same
things keep happening all over the world. The problem is most people
are unaware of the evidence, even though there is a preponderance of
evidence. Given the physical trace cases, the radar sightings, the
photographs and the eye-witness testimony from people all over the
world, we have quite sufficient evidence to conclude that our planet
is being visited by manufactured objects behaving in ways that we
Earthlings cannot yet duplicate, and that therefore were produced
someplace else."
In addition, Jim Marrs had the following accurate narrative to add:
As the 20th century came to a close, cattle mutilations continue, crop
circles are more elaborate than in the past, and the abduction
experience appears to be more widespread than ever, in spite of the
debunkers and media-supported public disbelief.
Two concepts increasingly accepted by all but the most intransigent
skeptic are that there is much more to life than our own brief
material existence on Earth and we are not alone on our world.
The concept that we are not alone is supported by overwhelming
evidence, including multitudinous sightings, photographs, films and
videos, radar contacts, personal confrontations, abduction reports,
crop circles, animal mutilations, channeled messages, multiple-witness
reports and physical evidence such as indented landing sites, holes in
the ground, burned vegetation, human scars, and implants. Some of the
human reports and photographic evidence undoubtedly are the product of
misinterpretation or hoaxers, but the sheer number and consistency of
descriptions argues against all of them being mistakes or fakes.
Another argument supporting the idea of non-human visitors is the
longevity of the reports. If sightings had occurred only in recent
times, they might be attributable to some passing mass psychosis, an
aberrant copycat function of minds frightened by the onrush of modern
technology. But reports of flying machines and unearthly visitors
predate man's history. And the evidence of technology superior to
ours in the distant past is particularly compelling. Although there
is no clear indication that such technology was the product of alien
visitation rather than some lost civilization of man, the many ancient
tales of sky-gods and their flying craft tip the scales in favor of
alien contact.
Thank you to George Knapp, Michael Lindemann, Timothy Good, Ralph
Steiner, Stanton Frideman, Jim Marrs and George Filer for the above
information
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
" Can we all agree to eliminate ALL DEBUNKERS once and for all/History
of debunking" ...
... The Great Sir Gilligan Horry Chief CEO of Freedom and Homlessness
UFO and Alien Research says no we can not all agree to eliminate ALL
DEBUNKERS once and for all/History of debunking. Because some and
maybe most of those Dubunkers might have had Humanity's best interests
in mind for the good of all Humanity and the good future of the good
Humanity that we will become, including the evidence of me Sir
Gilligan Horry a truly good person even in this day and age of
hoodlems throwing stones at Miss Pretty's kitchen window that will be
caught and educated thanks to Roswell reverse engineered chips placed
in video cameras, so imagine the good humanity in the future! ... It
is more fantastic than all the 57,000 different species.
Because it is home that we are talking about.
An area in the quantum universe that we worked hard for.
And no negative multidimensional entity can ever take that away from
us 100% 24/7!!!
______________________
Disclaimer:
OK, it's is beer day, and the stars are coming out
after this beautiful purple blue sunset.
Lot's of love to you all.
I will be back in 5 minutes or 5 hours.
Depending on how long I rest.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
wrote:
> On Jun 11, 2:45 pm, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA <scie...@zzz.com>
> wrote:
>
> " Can we all agree to eliminate ALL DEBUNKERS once and for all/History
> of debunking" ...
> I will be back in 5 minutes or 5 hours.
> Depending on how long I rest.
New studies indicate it is best to sleep between 6 1/2 to 7 1/2
hours. Take HEED! Will you join our CRUSADE FOR HUMANITY to finally
eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT on THIS PLANET EARTH? Off course
I am talking about the debunker, their friends, supporters,
sympahtizers and enablers also. They MUST be rounded up and
interrogated the old-fashioned way. Once this threat is eliminated, a
BRAND NEW DAY will dawn for ALL MANKIND and a BRAVE NEW WORLD will
exist. Are you with us or are you McGuinnes? Do tell!!!!!
Can ALL MANKIND finally agree to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT
on THIS PLANET EARTH once and for all?? Of course I am talking about
the scourge of debunkers (and their ilk!). This cancerous blight has
taken an enormous toll on the human population and it is way past time
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
> On Jun 10, 10:53 pm, Sir Gilligan Horry <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 11, 2:45 pm, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA <scie...@zzz.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > " Can we all agree to eliminate ALL DEBUNKERS once and for all/History
> > of debunking" ...
> > I will be back in 5 minutes or 5 hours.
> > Depending on how long I rest.
>
> New studies indicate it is best to sleep between 6 1/2 to 7 1/2
> hours. Take HEED!
Thanks.
And well, I do sleep in.
I often say I will sleep and be back in four hours
but wake up about eight hours later.
> Will you join our CRUSADE FOR HUMANITY to finally
> eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT on THIS PLANET EARTH?
I'm already into this whole situation as deep as Carol, Tina, and
Flinn!
LOL :)
Anyway ... I've been watching a lot of documentaries on TV.
And reading Project Camelot.
And I saw Nick Pope on BBC.
And I have the biggest YouTube channel about MIBs.
But I'm not going to do anything I don't like, even for a Billion
Trillion dollars or the worst threats imaginable.
I made this ...... 2_ET_Yes_or_No.avi
Imagine if someone threatened to chop my arms off if I made that
video.
Well, they would get two feet up !!!
> Off course
> I am talking about the debunker, their friends, supporters,
> sympahtizers and enablers also. They MUST be rounded up and
> interrogated the old-fashioned way.
No.
I am into nice kind gentle honest natural education.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA ...
> Once this threat is eliminated, a
> BRAND NEW DAY will dawn for ALL MANKIND and a BRAVE NEW WORLD will
> exist. Are you with us or are you McGuinnes? Do tell!!!!!
I am with you and billions of other souls all the way.
You are one of my great friends in alien UFO usenet newsgroups
and the Milky Way Galaxy.
I love the Universe.
> Can ALL MANKIND finally agree to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT
> on THIS PLANET EARTH once and for all?? Of course I am talking about
> the scourge of debunkers (and their ilk!). This cancerous blight has
> taken an enormous toll on the human population and it is way past time
> to repel and destroy the most evil of evil and hated of hated. Once
> the debunkers are finally eradicated from this world, the entire globe
> will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace, liberty and justice
> for all. AMEN!!
Your posts have always been fun and very witty.
Keep up the good work Sir Arthur CBE Wholeflaffers ASA !!!
www.freedomtofascism.com
Recent polls agree -- The US government is the greatest terrorist on Earth.
>
>Keep up the good work Sir Arthur CBE Wholeflaffers ASA !!!
>
Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA!
Sir Gilligan Horry
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:46:45 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Once this threat is eliminated, a
> >> BRAND NEW DAY will dawn for ALL MANKIND and a BRAVE NEW WORLD will
> >> exist. Are you with us or are you McGuinnes? Do tell!!!!!
>
> >I am with you and billions of other souls all the way.
> >You are one of my great friends in alien UFO usenet newsgroups
> >and the Milky Way Galaxy.
>
> >I love the Universe.
>
> >> Can ALL MANKIND finally agree to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT
> >> on THIS PLANET EARTH once and for all?? Of course I am talking about
> >> the scourge of debunkers (and their ilk!). This cancerous blight has
> >> taken an enormous toll on the human population and it is way past time
> >> to repel and destroy the most evil of evil and hated of hated. Once
> >> the debunkers are finally eradicated from this world, the entire globe
> >> will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace, liberty and justice
> >> for all. AMEN!!
>
> >Your posts have always been fun and very witty.
>
> Recent polls agree -- The US government is the greatest terrorist on Earth.
>
> >Keep up the good work Sir Arthur CBE Wholeflaffers ASA !!!
>
> Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA!
Yey! Homeless Sir Gilligan Horry will have a home at last !
http://aliens.ufos.videos.googlepages.com/alien-ufo-postcards.html
P.S.
Command Sergeant Major, Robert O Dean, worked for FEMA for over 14
years.
There is nothing wrong with FEMA, it's just the administration behind
it in 2006.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:46:45 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
>
>
>
> >> Once this threat is eliminated, a
> >> BRAND NEW DAY will dawn for ALL MANKIND and a BRAVE NEW WORLD will
> >> exist. Are you with us or are you McGuinnes? Do tell!!!!!
>
> >I am with you and billions of other souls all the way.
> >You are one of my great friends in alien UFO usenet newsgroups
> >and the Milky Way Galaxy.
>
> >I love the Universe.
>
> >> Can ALL MANKIND finally agree to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT
> >> on THIS PLANET EARTH once and for all?? Of course I am talking about
> >> the scourge of debunkers (and their ilk!). This cancerous blight has
> >> taken an enormous toll on the human population and it is way past time
> >> to repel and destroy the most evil of evil and hated of hated. Once
> >> the debunkers are finally eradicated from this world, the entire globe
> >> will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace, liberty and justice
> >> for all. AMEN!!
>
> >Your posts have always been fun and very witty.
>
> Recent polls agree -- The US government is the greatest terrorist on Earth.
>
> >Keep up the good work Sir Arthur CBE Wholeflaffers ASA !!!
>
> Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA!
Is that you Free Dumb? We really don't need or welcome YOUR KIND on
these newsgroups. Your kind has never been welcomed around decent,
civilized people. Now please leave these newsgroups at once. Good
riddance!!
www.freedomtofascism.com
Enjoy your stay at Camp FEMA!
Sir Gilligan Horry
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:43:38 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
>
>
>
Enjoy your stay at Camp Tequila!
http://idrankzurtequilas.blogspot.com
_________________________________________
http://aliens.ufos.videos.googlepages.com/index.html
www.freedomtofascism.com
<Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Enjoy your stay at Camp Tequila!
No thanks, I'm alcohol-free.
But you can drink all you want, L00n.
www.freedomtofascism.com
>On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:38:08 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com
><tr...@r.us> wrote:
>
>>No thanks, I'm alcohol-free.
>
>After all these years of undifferentiated animosity you start to show
>a little bit of human reaction ...
Non sequitur.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:45:17 -0400,www.freedomtofascism.com> What are you afraid of?
> C.
Debunkers are afraid that their days are numbered and they are. When
ALL MANKIND joins up and vaporizes the greatest TERROR-THREAT that
THIS PLANET EARTH has ever seen, the debunker (and their ilk); then we
will all live in a BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace, justice and harmony.
This WILL HAPPEN, MAKE IT SO!!
The SOONER the debunker is defeated the BETTER. Time is running out
and the debunkers are regrouping for one final battle. It is time for
us to stand up and squash the debunker like the infested bugs they
really are. The debunker ultimate goal: the elimination of the human
race. WE MUST NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN. I have notified General
Borman Killemall to get ready to use the bizmuth-magnasium-aluminium
(BMA) ultra-bomb to dig the debunkers from their holes. We will have
to smoke 'em out, once again. Their leader is someone called Omaha
Ben London A.K.A. Hairy Borsch-Belt (or his kids!) Now let's get
moving on this if we are to save the globe from total destruction.
Are you with us or are you with the tarot card
readers???? ÷÷÷÷÷¿¿¿÷¿÷¿÷¿÷˘¯µ˜∫√ç
Hagar
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news:hhh2541atcmeieejc...@pasoschweiz.de...
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers
> ASA <sci...@zzz.com> wrote:
>
>>WE MUST NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
>
>
>> I have notified General Borman Killemall
>
> When we both tried to beat some sense into these weak minds.
>
>
>> to get ready to use the bizmuth-magnasium-aluminium
>>(BMA) ultra-bomb
>
>
>> to dig the debunkers from their holes. We will have
>>to smoke 'em out, once again.
>
>
>>Their leader is someone called Omaha
>>Ben London A.K.A. Hairy Borsch-Belt (or his kids!)
>
>
>>Now let's get
>>moving on this if we are to save the globe from total destruction.
>
>
>>Are you with us or are you with the tarot card
>
> Good question! .. Next question: ..... ?
>
> C.
>
> P.S.: Now I have to see a man about a dog.
Don't piss on your leg, dufus ...
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dgfwg98t_2cg8pc5c6
www.freedomtofascism.com
>On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:45:17 -0400, www.freedomtofascism.com
><tr...@r.us> wrote:
>
>>>a little bit of human reaction ...
>>
>>Non sequitur.
>
>What are you afraid of?
Nothing.
Hagar
<UseNe...@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:hoc3545lvkq6d32c3...@pasoschweiz.de...
> C.
Ahh soo, you now japanee ???
FalseFlagUSA
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers> Will they ask us?
>
> > I have notified General Borman Killemall
>
Excellent, give him my best.
Can ALL MANKIND finally agree to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT
on THIS PLANET EARTH once and for all?? Of course I am talking about
the scourge of debunkers (and their ilk!). This cancerous blight has
taken an enormous toll on the human population and it is way past time
to repel and destroy the most evil of evil and hated of hated. Once
the debunkers are finally eradicated from this world, the entire globe
will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace, liberty and justice
for all. AMEN!!
UFO Debunkers: A Dangerous "Cult" or Super Patriots?/ The History of
UFO Debunking!
C
Timelord
news:2758ce2a-1f6b-4ad0...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 12, 9:04 am, UseNetO...@t-online.de wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers
>>
>> ASA <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
>> >WE MUST NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
>>
>> Will they ask us?
>>
>> > I have notified General Borman Killemall
>>
>> Borman is a good friend of mine ... since those early school days!
>
> Excellent, give him my best.
>
<Snip><Snip><Snip>< All the Junk >
No... We can not agree As your opinions are not facts
in fact your opinions aren't even sane. You really need to stop listening to
those military liars spreading misinformation They know the truth
about 2012!!! LOL
--
Thanks,
Timelord
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Sir Gilligan Horry
this> wrote:
> "FalseFlagUSA" <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2758ce2a-1f6b-4ad0...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 12, 9:04 am, UseNetO...@t-online.de wrote:
> >> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers
>
> >> ASA <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> >> >WE MUST NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN.
>
> >> Will they ask us?
>
> >> > I have notified General Borman Killemall
>
> >> Borman is a good friend of mine ... since those early school days!
>
> > Excellent, give him my best.
>
> <Snip><Snip><Snip>< All the Junk >
>
TimeLord, did you just call Alexa, Charles, Sir Arthur CBE
Wholeflaffers ASA, Hagar and Sir Gilligan Horry ... "Junk" ?
Well Hagar needs a new chip implant, but we have all the corporations
in place.
Anyway, pleased to meet you TimeLord.
Are you here for a 5 minute argument?
Or a 15 minute argument?
Most 5 minute arguments cost $10 dollars.
And 15 minute arguments cost just $20 dollars.
;->
www.freedomtofascism.com
<Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Are you here for a 5 minute argument?
Timelord
news:946c2a34-8abc-4eb7...@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Actually I will be here long after you are gone Gillian,
You who call anyone that tells the truth a debunker LOL,
Well I was in Saucer Watch long before you were even born.
And I have stood my watch. Have you??? Of course I can
identify almost anything that flies. You can not...
It might be a good idea for you guys to give up with the phony
UFO's. We the public need the truth to come out. What we do not
need is you guys trying to prevent any real conversations about
UFO's to go on And we do need money enough do real investigations
into the causes of real UFO's ( like the Sutton Monster and others ).
People like you never seem to understand...
Sir Gilligan Horry
this> wrote:
> "Sir Gilligan Horry" <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:946c2a34-8abc-4eb7...@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as I have always said ... I don't like "Lords".
I own more ET/UFO websites than you.
I own more ET/UFO YouTube channels than you.
I own more ET/UFO message board forums than you.
I have introduced about 2,000,000 people to CSETI and The Disclosure
Project.
I have the only website on planet Earth with funny UFO postcards.
I am the first person on planet Earth to create EARTH CARE DAY.
I took the time to chat openly in a quiet newsgroup forum
about all my thoughts on UFOs and Extraterrestrials and Space and
Earth.
(For eight years)
(And I did it all for free)
(The one Ad up top of some pages is just the free hosting site's Ad)
And it is all thanks to America!!!
The Wild West, that gave us Hollywood,
and The Late Show with David Letterman,
and the freedom to study any fluffing religion we want
and change our mind about it all anytime we want.
And books by the millions.
About any subject you can imagine.
P.S.
I'm not a Lord.
I am a team participant and a team player.
I am a good honest man.
Do you have any more questions?
How many questions?
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
Anyway, here is a nice song for you ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMxrsL_DW1g
And my UFO postcards ...
http://aliens.ufos.videos.googlepages.com/alien-ufo-postcards.html
And a nice photo of the old Area51 Research Center ...
( I used to hang out in their forum everyday around 1998 )
http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/NV3167/
And a special random UFO Extraterrestrial link ........
Introduction:
When an asteroid over the media interviewer is ostensibly spartan, the
BLUE crystal organizes a space being toward a perimeter. Some
important contact experience, the Zeta Reticuli, and a photon on a
landing trace are what made America great! Any file keeper can reveal
questions about the V-shaped object, but it takes a real civilization
to hesitantly accelerate ET aclimatization with the disclosure update.
Another green FBI report earns respect, and the long interview
thoroughly derives satisfaction from a helicopter in collaboration
with another corporation. The flying saucer makes for analysis of a
temperature inversion.
A classified article:
For example, a special access program in collaboration with the
drawing indicates that a varigated national laboratory takes a peek at
the cigar shaped UFO in respect to a new UFO club. Indeed, the weather
balloon drawn from a mirage gives secret financial aid to the witness.
The modern internet UFO website owner goes straight up, and a muddy
scientific investigation enters everyday knowledge; however, a twisted
top MJ-12 agent hardly trades secrets with a weather balloon drawn
from a crop circle. A tape recorder in the visinity of a low flying
disc ridiculously finds subtle faults with the time warp jointed with
a craft. The feverishly acclimatized low flying disc relinquishes
data, and the bohemian V-shaped object splits; however, a large group
of firsthand military and civilian witnesses beyond a hoax reaffirms a
flatbed truck.
A varigated cloud formation:
Now and then, another BLUE crystal unnervingly makes for analysis of a
deep space probe object related to a comet. A flying saucer in view of
a night vision derives satisfaction from the fake. Another real event
hesitates, and some factually hairy high level witness sweeps the
ground; however, another state department somewhat can be truthful
about a long interview drawn from a project manager. A hypothetical
industrial complex could prove that about the space ship controller,
however some require an unquestionable cover-up to make a truce with
another special access program. When the acquisition of unwarranted
influence mentioned with a support group is returned to base, a
powerful BLUE crystal becomes apparent.
A scientific curiosity as well as another broadcast:
Some asteroid might cover up evidence of a gentle tape, although it
needs a confirmed top UFOlogist to make a truce with an industrial
complex in view of a magazine. Now and then, a military witness
covertly reports in detail to a power plant over the intergalactic
android. Some flock of birds related to the information department
tells the truth about the army air field base beyond a triangle,
although the possible 57 different extraterrestrial species catalog
negotiates a prenuptial agreement with a kook about an implication.
Sometimes the hesitantly underground extraterrestrial appears out of
nowhere, but a tape always laughs and drinks all night with an extreme
security measure in respect to some newspaper story!
Conclusions:
A hypothetical intergalactic android could get serious about some
shabby craft, however some require an unquestionable police officer to
take a peek at a crispy Commander. If another media interviewer fixed
on a large UFO wave knowingly organizes a being about the time warp,
then an abducting cover-up laughs out loud. Furthermore, a top
UFOlogist in view of a small android sweeps the ground, and a mission
next to the propaganda specialist feverishly throws a flying saucer at
a nuclear energy site by the propaganda specialist. When you see a
helicopter beyond a signal, it means that the truthfully alleged UFO
chat room lights up the sky.
http://www.aliensufosfreevideos.250x.com/Random_UFO_Alien_News_Reports.html
Timelord
O.k.
Since when do you own A blue seems unlikely ( the crystal know as
The Crystal of Blue Water ) if you have one why did you not send me one???
Timelord
OOoooohh...
And you have all this I-Access then you can be on the teem
start a tax 501a code donation account and start collecting
for some real scientific studies of UFO's. Don't you think
its time that the people know the truth???
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:52:15 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
> <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I own more ET/UFO websites than you.
> >I own more ET/UFO YouTube channels than you.
> >I own more ET/UFO message board forums than you.
> >I have introduced about 2,000,000 people to CSETI and The Disclosure
> >Project.
> >I have the only website on planet Earth with funny UFO postcards.
> >I am the first person on planet Earth to create EARTH CARE DAY.
> >I took the time to chat openly in a quiet newsgroup forum
> >about all my thoughts on UFOs and Extraterrestrials and Space and
> >Earth.
> > (For eight years)
> > (And I did it all for free)
>
>
> Hi S.G.H!
>
> Today will be a busy day for me, first it's about making use of the
> super weather by going swimming and in the evening we will have
> a meeting in Munich (Hofbräuhaushttp://www.hofbraeuhaus.de/)
>
> Look at me:http://www.hofbraeuhaus.de/de/03/bierdeckel4.html
>
> So I won't be writing much :-)
> C.
We will not be detracted or deterred, but we will be ever vigilant in
our efforts to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT in this part of
the quadrant: the Debunker and their ilk. ALL MANKIND will soon rise
up and destroy the last vestiges of the debunkers cult. When the
debunker is no more, THIS PLANET EARTH will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW
WORLD of peace and harmony. The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Once again I
ask, are you with us or are you with the tarot card readers?
Sir Gilligan Horry
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:52:15 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
> <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I own more ET/UFO websites than you.
> >I own more ET/UFO YouTube channels than you.
> >I own more ET/UFO message board forums than you.
> >I have introduced about 2,000,000 people to CSETI and The Disclosure
> >Project.
> >I have the only website on planet Earth with funny UFO postcards.
> >I am the first person on planet Earth to create EARTH CARE DAY.
> >I took the time to chat openly in a quiet newsgroup forum
> >about all my thoughts on UFOs and Extraterrestrials and Space and
> >Earth.
> > (For eight years)
> > (And I did it all for free)
>
>
> Hi S.G.H!
>
> Today will be a busy day for me, first it's about making use of the
> super weather by going swimming and in the evening we will have
> a meeting in Munich (Hofbräuhaushttp://www.hofbraeuhaus.de/)
>
> Look at me:http://www.hofbraeuhaus.de/de/03/bierdeckel4.html
>
> So I won't be writing much :-)
> C.
It's always good to hear from you.
I just woke up from a sleep.
It is 9:45pm.
A full moon and the stars are bright.
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
Charles, I am trying to reply to Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA,
but I think he is asking you.
Although if Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
is asking me again if I am a §K¥ Wå£K€® Çøñüñd®üm ®ü1øfÜS,
well I am here, I am with us!
I am with Alexa, Twonky, Miss Jones, Miss Nancy, Charles, Sire Artie,
the Doctor, YouTube, Hagar, HVAC, The Solar System, 1øfÜS i am even at
pm.
I are, you ®, we US! United!
www.freedomtofascism.com
<Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I are, you ®, we US! United!
Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA.
Sir Gilligan Horry
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:31:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
> >I are, you ®, we US! United!
>
> Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA.
I just saw your post in Alt.Alien.Visitors
I am in Alt.Alien.Research
Enjoy your stay at camp Alien Visitors.
www.freedomtofascism.com
www.freedomtofascism.com
<sci...@zzz.com> wrote:
>THIS PLANET EARTH will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW
>WORLD of peace and harmony.
It definitely will be peaceful.
www.freedomtofascism.com
www.freedomtofascism.com
wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:55:04 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
><Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 20, 8:37 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:31:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>>>
>>> <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >I are, you Ž, we US! United!
>>>
>>> Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA.
>>
>>
>>I just saw your post in Alt.Alien.Visitors
>>I am in Alt.Alien.Research
>>
>>Enjoy your stay at camp Alien Visitors.
>
>It never mattered. :>
>
>http://sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/echem/echem.html
PS -- There's no reason to save planet Urff. Mostly because you can't.
:->
Sir Gilligan Horry
this> wrote:
> ... you think
> its time that the people know the truth???
The truth is all over the internet.
You want the truth about Angular Diameters...
it's there online.
You want the truth about Galaxies...
it's there with the Hubble Site.
You want the truth about Koko the Gorilla...
he has his own website.
You want the truth about UFOs...
it's all there online.
You want the truth about the Internet and Heaven...
there is something for everyone.
That, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a fact.
__________________
Disclaimer:
Just as well I never spamed UFO and alien proof and evidence in little
old ladies knitting usenet newsgroups threads.
Not good for heaven on planet Earth.
Sir Gilligan Horry
> PS -- There's no reason to save planet Urff. Mostly because you can't.
> :->
Smile, you are on the "wisdom of several races" camera.
I notice you are crapping your "negative multidimensional" pants.
Your "individual power is doomed to vanish".
But I love you Alexa!
I love UseNet NewsGroups!
______________________________
http://ludb.clui.org/ex/i/NV3167/
http://www.hitchaser.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/sex-doll.jpg
http://aliens.ufos.videos.googlepages.com/alien-ufo-postcards.html
Timelord
news:74dd1a5e-32ee-40b8...@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 20, 8:37 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:31:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
> <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA.
I just saw your post in Alt.Alien.Visitors
I am in Alt.Alien.Research
Enjoy your stay at camp Alien Visitors.
Actually My reader does not care what group you are replying from
its all the same.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Jun 20, 6:58 pm, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA <scie...@zzz.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > We will not be detracted or deterred, but we will be ever vigilant in
> > our efforts to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT in this part of
> > the quadrant: the Debunker and their ilk. ALL MANKIND will soon rise
> > up and destroy the last vestiges of the debunkers cult. When the
> > debunker is no more, THIS PLANET EARTH will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW
> > WORLD of peace and harmony. The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Once again I
> > ask, are you with us or are you with the tarot card readers?
>
>
> Charles, I am trying to reply to Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA,
> but I think he is asking you.
We need to finalize the names of ALL debunkers, their friends,
supporters, sympathizers, enablers and friends of friends of. After
that, we can turn the entire list over to Gen. K. and let "Him" do his
"magic®."
A BRAVE NEW WORLD is awaiting us if we are BOLD enough to take it. We
will never let any debunkers get in our way. This is my campaign
pledge to one and all. If elected, my single goal is the total
elimination of each and every debunker from THIS PLANET EARTH!!! Give
up now debunkers, while you still have a chance!
Bob Casanova
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
Wholeflaffers ASA <sci...@zzz.com>:
<snip>
>We will not ...
...ever shut up.
<snip>
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
www.freedomtofascism.com
<time...@cpbbs.synchro.net.remove-604-this> wrote:
>"Sir Gilligan Horry" <Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:74dd1a5e-32ee-40b8...@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>On Jun 20, 8:37 pm, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:31:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>>
>> <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >I are, you ®, we US! United!
>>
>> Enjoy your stay at camp FEMA.
>
>
>I just saw your post in Alt.Alien.Visitors
>I am in Alt.Alien.Research
>
>Enjoy your stay at camp Alien Visitors.
They're not visitors. They were around billions of years before your
species was genetically created.
www.freedomtofascism.com
<time...@cpbbs.synchro.net.remove-604-this> wrote:
>Enjoy
Thanks. I will. I am aligned with a higher purpose and am with those of
like mind. I am honored and can hardly wait.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:58:50 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
> Wholeflaffers ASA <sci...@zzz.com>:
>
> <snip>
>
> >We will not ...
>
> ...ever shut up.
>
Casanova and his ilk will not stop our MARCH TOWARD FREEDOM, that is
freedom from the debunkers! Their days are numbered and ALL MANKIND
are the glorious winners! When the last debunker is gone from THIS
PLANET EARTH, all people will live in a BRAVE NEW WORLD of wonderful
liberty, justice and Truth®.
Debunkers: TAKE HEED - give up now ro else face the WRATH of EVERY
HUMAN united against debunkers!!
Casanova, please refrain from your pithy comments, they are NOT
needed!!!
Bob Casanova
See what I mean?
Sir Gilligan Horry
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:31:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
> C.
The Timelord was asking me if I support full-disclosure.
Well, if there was full-disclosure it would spoil the fun.
I've had so much fun in alien and UFO newsgroups over the years.
(well, ups and downs, but it has been awesome)
Even in the DVD called "What The Bleep"
that good professor says "don't be in the know, be in the mystery".
However, full-disclosure has happened within a variety of agencies.
And if me and you and them agencies can't deal with all the facts.
Then there is no-way a potato farmer or a book binder or a house
builder can deal with all the disclosure and facts. Unless they want
to get into it all. Via freedom of choice and degree of importance.
The fact is, many people have seen and studied the Mothman DVD, and
all the Human Wars, and other documentaries, ... and we just get on
with life and better ideas.
I feel there is a good future here and out there for our humanity.
And it's the same old story,
we just have to make sure there are not too many
rotten idiot bad minds in control.
It's the same in Zimbabwe.
I see many 'paid off' or 'afraid' people supporting the wrong
president.
I'm glad Russia and China are not going to intervene. (I know, for
several reasons)
Because those people in Zimbabwe have to sort it out.
They each have to work out something in their mind.
It's the best way a brain develops.
We have done it in Newsgroups, the Wars, in Hollywood, and in
Documentaries.
www.freedomtofascism.com
<Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Well, if there was full-disclosure it would spoil the fun.
What's to disclose?
Everyone knows extraterrestrials exist and governments lie about it for
money.
Simple really.
Sir Gilligan Horry
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:56:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
> >Well, if there was full-disclosure it would spoil the fun.
>
> What's to disclose?
>
> Everyone knows extraterrestrials exist and governments lie about it for
> money.
>
> Simple really.
That's one aspect of many situations.
And even that one aspect has many reasons.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/aspect
"3. A way in which something can be viewed by the mind".
www.freedomtofascism.com
The criteria for reality is that something can be weighed and measured.
How much do you think that extraterrestrial saucer at Groom Lake weighs?
I already measured it. It's 30'. in diameter.
www.freedomtofascism.com
The criteria for reality is that something can be weighed and measured.
www.freedomtofascism.com
<Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>That's one aspect of many situations.
>And even that one aspect has many reasons.
>
>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/aspect
>
> "3. A way in which something can be viewed by the mind".
And on a lighter note, Zionist shill, how many people have been in your mind
recently?
Thanks ever so for playing.
www.freedomtofascism.com
<Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>That's one aspect of many situations.
>And even that one aspect has many reasons.
>
>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/aspect
>
> "3. A way in which something can be viewed by the mind".
And on a lighter note, Zionist shill, how many people have been in your mind
recently?
Thanks ever so for playing.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. :)
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> We will not be detracted or deterred, but we will be ever vigilant in
> our efforts to eliminate the greatest TERROR-THREAT in this part of
> the quadrant: the Debunker and their ilk. ALL MANKIND will soon rise
> up and destroy the last vestiges of the debunkers cult. When the
> debunker is no more, THIS PLANET EARTH will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW
> WORLD of peace and harmony. The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Once again I
> ask, are you with us or are you with the tarot card readers?
It is TIME right now to start the "process" of rounding up this
horrible, scary and unrepentant terror-threat!
Notice to ALL debunkers: Give up now and perhaps ALL MANKIND will go a
little lenient on you pond-scum. We have contracted with Blackwater-
Halliburton-Wackenhut-Lockheed to run the Debunker Internment Kamps®,
and a General Borman Q. Killemall will be the commandant! May the
Lord have mercy on your souls, if you even have one left.
Sir Gilligan Horry
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:56:10 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
> <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
...........
> >The fact is, many people have seen and studied the Mothman DVD, and
> >all the Human Wars, and other documentaries, ... and we just get on
> >with life and better ideas.
>
> Well, ... I never studied the "Mothman" ..
Charles, I know (I think you said) you don't watch many movies.
But this is really one of my top 10 favorite movies ...
The Mothman Prophecies (2002)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265349/
And the DVD is the best, because it has a free documentary about the
facts.
I don't think of it as a mothman.
It was just a being from another planet.
Maybe even multidimensional.
Maybe even the being behind the glass
in the underground base in the book "Left At East Gate".
Ordering people and gray androids around.
Probably trying to learn more about our afterlife dimensions, etc.
> >Because those people in Zimbabwe have to sort it out.
> >They each have to work out something in their mind.
>
> Correct.
Well, that's the reason there have been no major open contacts with
advanced benevolent races in our recent 2000 year history.
And even today, about 50% of people in America do want that
administration behind President Bush. About 20% - 30% want to make
money at any cost, and want to sell weapons, and are racist, and love
drugs, and sex, and restaurants, and enjoy seeing war on
TV. .......... etc.
Bob Casanova
in sci.skeptic, posted by UseNe...@t-online.de:
>On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:03:58 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
><Sir.Gilli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>And even today, about 50% of people in America do want that
>>administration behind President Bush.
>
>Hagar seems to have a big family :-((
>
>Politics in the USA is a question of IQ and education ...
Politics *everywhere* is a function of IQ and education,
with religion frequently added.
www.freedomtofascism.com
The criteria for reality is that something can be weighed and measured.
How much do you think that extraterrestrial saucer at Groom Lake weighs?
I already measured it. It's 30' in diameter.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
wrote:
> On Jun 20, 5:36 pm, UseNetO...@t-online.de wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:52:15 -0700 (PDT), Sir Gilligan Horry
>
> > <Sir.Gilligan.Ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >I own more ET/UFO websites than you.
> > >I own more ET/UFO YouTube channels than you.
> > >I own more ET/UFO message board forums than you.
> > >I have introduced about 2,000,000 people to CSETI and The Disclosure
> > >Project.
> > >I have the only website on planet Earth with funny UFO postcards.
> > >I am the first person on planet Earth to create EARTH CARE DAY.
> > >I took the time to chat openly in a quiet newsgroup forum
> > >about all my thoughts on UFOs and Extraterrestrials and Space and
> > >Earth.
> > > (For eight years)
> > > (And I did it all for free)
>
> > This is absolutely true!
>
> > Hi S.G.H!
>
> > Today will be a busy day for me, first it's about making use of the
> > super weather by going swimming and in the evening we will have
> > a meeting in Munich (Hofbräuhaushttp://www.hofbraeuhaus.de/)
>
> > Look at me:http://www.hofbraeuhaus.de/de/03/bierdeckel4.html
>
> > So I won't be writing much :-)
> > C.
>
> It's always good to hear from you.
Thank you, I see Free Dumb and his ilk are still here, I'll call
General K!
www.freedomtofascism.com
<sci...@zzz.com> wrote:
> THIS PLANET EARTH will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW
>WORLD of peace and harmony. The SOONER THE BETTER!!!
It'll be peaceful fer sure.
> Once again I ask, are you with us or are you with
> the tarot card readers?
Ants. Everywhere you look on Earth, there's ants.
www.freedomtofascism.com
<sci...@zzz.com> wrote:
>THIS PLANET EARTH will be thrust into a BRAVE NEW
>WORLD of peace and harmony. The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Once again I
>ask, are you with us or are you with the tarot card readers?
The male mind needs things to go the way they plan -- it is integrally tied
into their ego. If things don't go the way they planned (creating their own
reality) they will destroy it.
www.freedomtofascism.com
<sci...@zzz.com> wrote:
>We will not be detracted or deterred,...
>...ALL MANKIND will soon rise up and destroy...
>... THIS PLANET EARTH
> BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace and harmony.
> The SOONER THE BETTER!!!
The human species on Earth is finished, failed.
And that's the truth.
H.
"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <sci...@zzz.com>
wrote in message
news:ee6534a5-7b7e-4e95...@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
Give it up Hole Flapper. Your rhetoric is just getting
old and tiresome, not even humorous anymore.
You must be getting old and senile.
H.
Bob Casanova
in sci.skeptic, posted by UseNe...@t-online.de:
>On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:14:11 -0700, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>Give it up Hole Flapper. Your rhetoric is just getting
>>old and tiresome, not even humorous anymore.
>>You must be getting old and senile.
>>
>>H.
>
>Have you ever considered that this might not a problem of the
>sender but one of the receiver?
Insufficient credulity?
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:54:49 +0200, the following appeared
>
> >On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:14:11 -0700, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> >>Give it up Hole Flapper. Your rhetoric is just getting
> >>old and tiresome, not even humorous anymore.
> >>You must be getting old and senile.
>
> >>H.
>
> >Have you ever considered that this might not a problem of the
> >sender but one of the receiver?
>
> Insufficient credulity?
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
Casanobrain, who asked you anything? Our pro-democracy/anti-debunker
side has made great strides and we will continue until we win the WAR
AGAINST TRUTH-TERROR. That obviously scares the hell out of the CULT
of dis-information specialists. In the near future, ALL MANKIND will
live in a BRAVE NEW WORLD of liberty, justice, freedom and anti-
gravity.
We're not a democracy. It's a terrible misunderstanding and a slander
to the idea of democracy to call us that. In reality, we're a
plutocracy: a government by the wealthy." - Ramsey Clark, former U.S.
Attorney General
Bob Casanova
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
Wholeflaffers ASA <sci...@zzz.com>:
>On Jun 26, 3:31 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:54:49 +0200, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by UseNetO...@t-online.de:
>>
>> >On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:14:11 -0700, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>> >>Give it up Hole Flapper. Your rhetoric is just getting
>> >>old and tiresome, not even humorous anymore.
>> >>You must be getting old and senile.
>>
>> >>H.
>>
>> >Have you ever considered that this might not a problem of the
>> >sender but one of the receiver?
>>
>> Insufficient credulity?
>> --
>>
>> Bob C.
>>
>
>Casanobrain, who asked you anything? Our pro-democracy/anti-debunker
>side has made great strides and we will continue until we win the WAR
>AGAINST TRUTH-TERROR. That obviously scares the hell out of the CULT
>of dis-information specialists. In the near future, ALL MANKIND will
>live in a BRAVE NEW WORLD of liberty, justice, freedom and anti-
>gravity.
Love to read your own crap, don't you?
>We're not a democracy. It's a terrible misunderstanding and a slander
>to the idea of democracy to call us that. In reality, we're a
>plutocracy: a government by the wealthy." - Ramsey Clark, former U.S.
>Attorney General
Malik J.J. Jubilee
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:48:11 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
>
> >We will not be detracted or deterred,...
> >...ALL MANKIND will soon rise up and destroy...
> >... THIS PLANET EARTH
> > BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace and harmony.
> > The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Â
>
> The human species on Earth is finished, failed.
>
> And that's the truth.
no it's not, you can't "finish" something that was just a bridge to
the "classified", as well as an assortment of new mutant strains.
The "normal" population is just fertilizer and seeds.
If you don't like the factory farm or help out with the tasks then get
the fuck off my property.
Or I will kill you, several times over. I'm totally serial about this.
- Signed, Sealed, and Delivered.- The Man
www.freedomtofascism.com
<zevill...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jun 26, 8:05Â am, www.freedomtofascism.com <tr...@r.us> wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:48:11 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
>>
>> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
>> >We will not be detracted or deterred,...
>> >...ALL MANKIND will soon rise up and destroy...
>> >... THIS PLANET EARTH
>> > BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace and harmony.
>> > The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Â
>>
>> The human species on Earth is finished, failed.
>>
>> And that's the truth.
>
>no it's not,
Yeah it is. You need a habitable planet to live on, dumbass.
Episkopos J.J. Jubilee
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:24:17 -0700 (PDT), "Malik J.J. Jubilee"
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jun 26, 8:05Â am,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:48:11 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
>
> >> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> >> >We will not be detracted or deterred,...
> >> >...ALL MANKIND will soon rise up and destroy...
> >> >... THIS PLANET EARTH
> >> > BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace and harmony.
> >> > The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Â
>
> >> The human species on Earth is finished, failed.
>
> >> And that's the truth.
>
> >no it's not,
>
> Yeah it is. Â You need a habitable planet to live on, dumbass.
>
>
>
> >you can't "finish" something that was just a bridge to
> >the "classified", as well as an assortment of new mutant strains.
>
> >The "normal" population is just fertilizer and seeds.
>
> >If you don't like the factory farm or help out with the tasks then get
> >the fuck off my property.
>
> >Or I will kill you, several times over. I'm totally serial about this.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
it is a habitable planet, aardvark. In the process of being
terrorformed into Neptune.
Episkopos J.J. Jubilee
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:24:17 -0700 (PDT), "Malik J.J. Jubilee"
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jun 26, 8:05Â am,www.freedomtofascism.com<tr...@r.us> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:48:11 -0700 (PDT), Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
>
> >> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> >> >We will not be detracted or deterred,...
> >> >...ALL MANKIND will soon rise up and destroy...
> >> >... THIS PLANET EARTH
> >> > BRAVE NEW WORLD of peace and harmony.
> >> > The SOONER THE BETTER!!! Â
>
> >> The human species on Earth is finished, failed.
>
> >> And that's the truth.
>
> >no it's not,
>
> Yeah it is. Â You need a habitable planet to live on, dumbass.
>
>
>
> >you can't "finish" something that was just a bridge to
> >the "classified", as well as an assortment of new mutant strains.
>
> >The "normal" population is just fertilizer and seeds.
>
> >If you don't like the factory farm or help out with the tasks then get
> >the fuck off my property.
>
> >Or I will kill you, several times over. I'm totally serial about this.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
why don't you just suck my butt?
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> Love to read your own crap, don't you?
You are the expert on that!!
Being a Debunker means never having to say you're sorry, or even
making a lick of sense!
Sage advice by John F. Schuessler
Debunkers: I have heard it said that the most frustrating and least
useful aspect of ufology is the machinations of the debunkers.
Debunkers are experts at the use of disinformation, misinformation,
and propaganda. They provide prosaic explanations for everything. If
the first story gets challenged, they simply generate another story
and do not even apologize for changing their position. No information
or data supplied by the ufologist is ever good enough for them. Truth,
honesty, ethics and things like that are foreign to their way of
operating because it might erode their position. They seldom do real
investigations.
Most of their explanations are canned and used over and over so that
they do not feel it necessary to do investigations. All this is very
frustrating to the ufologists that conduct extensive investigations,
record every little detail of a UFO incident, assemble statistics,
maintain vast databases, and probably most of all, respect the good
and honest witnesses who report their UFO incidents.
Perhaps it would help ufologists to deal with the debunkers if they
understood why the debunkers act in such a manner. This is best
described in The Argument Culture, a book by Georgetown University
professor Deborah Tannen. These machinations are an example of what
the cultural linguist Walter Ong calls "agonism" or "programmed
contentiousness." Agonism does not refer to disagreement, conflict, or
vigorous dispute. It refers to ritualized opposition.
Professor Tannen says: "The way we train our students, conduct our
classes and our research, and exchange ideas at meetings and in print
are all driven by our ideological assumption that intellectual inquiry
is a metaphorical battle. Following from that is a second assumption,
that the best way to demonstrate intellectual prowess is to criticize,
find fault, and attack." Further, she says: "Many aspects of our
academic lives can be described as agonistic. For example, in our
scholarly papers, most of us follow a conventional framework that
requires us to position our work in opposition to someone else's,
which we prove wrong.
The framework tempts, almost requires us to oversimplify or even
misrepresent others' positions; cite the weakest example to make a
generally reasonable work appear less so; and ignore facts that
support other's views, citing only evidence that supports our own
positions."
This approach "fosters a stance of arrogance and narrow-mindedness."
There is much more of value in The Argument Culture, but in these few
words, I believe Professor Tannen has clearly exposed the operating
technique used by most debunkers. With this information in mind, it is
fairly obvious that we are stuck with a continuing tirade by the
debunkers and it will continue until they all die off. They are unable
to change, they are
programmed to act as they do.
Fortunately, most ufologists have no desire to play the debunkers
game. Programmed contentiousness is viewed as dishonest, unfair and
unethical. It puts an end to exploring ideas, uncovering nuances,
comparing and contrasting different interpretations of a particular
work, and gaining a deeper and more accurate understanding of the
material. It kills the quest for open-minded inquiry.
Even knowing all of this, ufologists still allow themselves to be
stressed by the actions of debunkers. A good investigator is likely to
be provoked by a debunker's announcement that a certain UFO was
actually Venus when everyone knows that Venus was not visible at the
time. A debunker's demand for "all of your investigative files so I
can identify the UFO," is another provoking ploy. They play on your
ego by saying "I have never seen any credible evidence of a UFO,"
hoping you will try to provide some evidence that will convince them.
Will it convince them? No! Their debunker's pre-subscribed dogma will
not allow it. If all else fails, they will claim it is your
responsibility as an investigator to respond to their demands. Don't
fall for that ploy. Only you and the organization you represent can
define your responsibilities.
A formula for avoiding stress caused by the actions of the debunkers
is to follow industry's lead in looking for "value added" in any
interchange or effort. If there is nothing to be gained from
responding to them, then don't do it. Apply your energies where they
will make a difference. Don't play their game. It takes two to make a
game and if you do not respond to their provocation, then they do not
have a game. They lose and you are not stressed.
Episkopos J.J. Jubilee
wrote:
I second the opinion that the purpose of debunkers is to a) maintain
the status quo perception of reality, and ergo it's common
manifestation and b) aggrandize themselves in the pockets of the
stuporstitious that prefer to not believe superstitions for fear that
demons might be real.
I say feed the stuporstitious to any hungry alien/demon that happens
to ask for some grub. Gotta look out for the brethren/sistren/itstren!
Bob Casanova
>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> Love to read your own crap, don't you?
>You are the expert on that!!
Thanks; I agree. And since you acknowledge my expertise at
crap detection, I guess can answer my own question: yes, you
do love to read your own crap.
<snip yet more crap>
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:11:39 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
>
> >Bob Casanova wrote:
> >> Love to read your own crap, don't you?
> >You are the expert on that!!
>
> Thanks; I agree. And since you acknowledge my expertise at
> crap detection, I guess can answer my own question: yes, you
> do love to read your own crap.
Casanobrain; I'm not even going to bother to come up with a witty
retort to your puke, because it is obvious to everyone that your level
of comprehension of even the most basic material is zero.
Bob Casanova
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
>On Jun 28, 11:44 am, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:11:39 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
>> Wholeflaffers ASA <scie...@zzz.com>:
>> >Bob Casanova wrote:
>> >> Love to read your own crap, don't you?
>> >You are the expert on that!!
>> Thanks; I agree. And since you acknowledge my expertise at
>> crap detection, I guess can answer my own question: yes, you
>> do love to read your own crap.
>Casanobrain; I'm not even going to bother to come up with a witty
>retort to your puke
Glad you recognize your limitations, and your superiors.
<snip more evidence of textual narcissism>
Hagar
"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
news:0f4c4970-d98d-4b52...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> Bob Casanova wrote:
Where is the physical evidence, LipFlapper ???
You guys are just like the mindless Jesus freaks, who just know that God
made it al, because that's what it says in their precious BabbleBook. Yet,
nobody has ever seen God in person (being high on weed doesn't count) and
any half way sensible person will see through their schemes as well.
Show me one little piece of extraterrestrial metal ... anything ...
... crickets ...
... crickets ...
... crickets ...
... crickets ...
Bob Casanova
in sci.skeptic, posted by "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name>:
>"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
>news:0f4c4970-d98d-4b52...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>Where is the physical evidence, LipFlapper ???
There is none.
>You guys are just like the mindless Jesus freaks, who just know that God
>made it al, because that's what it says in their precious BabbleBook. Yet,
>nobody has ever seen God in person (being high on weed doesn't count) and
>any half way sensible person will see through their schemes as well.
>
>Show me one little piece of extraterrestrial metal ... anything ...
Don't hold your breath.
>... crickets ...
>... crickets ...
>... crickets ...
>... crickets ...
>
Sir Gilligan Horry
wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:22:51 -0700, the following appeared
>in sci.skeptic, posted by "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name>:
>
>>"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <sci...@zzz.com> wrote in message
>>news:0f4c4970-d98d-4b52...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>
>>Where is the physical evidence, LipFlapper ???
>
>There is none.
>
>>You guys are just like the mindless Jesus freaks, who just know that God
>>made it al, because that's what it says in their precious BabbleBook. Yet,
>>nobody has ever seen God in person (being high on weed doesn't count) and
>>any half way sensible person will see through their schemes as well.
>>
>>Show me one little piece of extraterrestrial metal ... anything ...
>
>Don't hold your breath.
>
>>... crickets ...
>>... crickets ...
>>... crickets ...
>>... crickets ...
>>
Hehe, just like the old days.
Anyway, the "Phoenix Lights" in Google Images
is proof.
A big "piece of extraterrestrial metal".
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> "Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:0f4c4970-d98d-4b52...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> Where is the physical evidence...
We've been over this, it has been presented, but not to crack-pots,
idiots and a-holes like you and Casanobrain.
First off, you are NOT and NEVER WILL BE qualified to inspect the
evidence. You are both little children who still pee your pants!
Secondly, those who are qualified to render an expert opinion , such
as myself and a scant few others, have already verified this as ET.
Now why don't you both crawl back in your cave and stay there, we will
send the rest of the worthless debunkers as they surrender to the
"State."
It's so sad to see these last 2 debunkers still kicking that dead old
horse: swamp gas, hedge hogs and stealth blimps. Although O-BORG
looks like a blimp!!
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> >Show me one little piece of extraterrestrial metal ... anything ...
>
I can show you that you usually poop your pants on a daily basis,
that's okay, most debunkers are at that level!
Now then, we've been over this, you are simply NOT QUALIFIED to
inspect the evidence, it's that simple. Our group has inspected it at
National Labs such as Sandia, Livermore, and NASA Aimes. It has
passed that tests. Now please crawl back into your cave and clean up
Casanobrain. Try and learn to understand the concept of toilet paper,
and perhaps we can move on to taking a shower. Sheesh, the debunkers
literally do stink!!
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:28:23 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:22:51 -0700, the following appeared
> >in sci.skeptic, posted by "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name>:
>
> >>news:0f4c4970-d98d-4b52...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> >>Where is the physical evidence, LipFlapper ???
>
> >There is none.
>
> >>You guys are just like the mindless Jesus freaks, who just know that God
> >>made it al, because that's what it says in their precious BabbleBook. Yet,
> >>nobody has ever seen God in person (being high on weed doesn't count) and
> >>any half way sensible person will see through their schemes as well.
>
> >>Show me one little piece of extraterrestrial metal ... anything ...
>
> >Don't hold your breath.
>
> >>... crickets ...
> >>... crickets ...
> >>... crickets ...
> >>... crickets ...
>
> Hehe, just like the old days.
>
> Anyway, the "Phoenix Lights" in Google Images
> is proof.
>
> A big "piece of extraterrestrial metal".
Try not to reason with a debunker, they are here to disrupt and they
fail miserably at that. The debunker is now a worthless piece of
shit, in fact, I have PROOF that a certain debunker poops his pants on
a regular basis. I am not making fun of him, he has a problem and we
should support this debunker in his time of need. Perhaps alien
technology may help him...but wait....he does not want to look at the
evidence!! So Casanobrain, keep poopin them pants! Pee-You!!
Bob Casanova
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
Wholeflaffers ASA <sci...@zzz.com>:
>On Jun 30, 2:28 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
No, I didn't. If you had even half a brain you'd be able to
correctly attribute, so I guess that's a forlorn hope.
Bob Casanova
in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Gilligan Horry
<G...@ga7rm5er.com>:
I live in the Phoenix area, and the "Phoenix lights" are
exactly what they're claimed to be - parachute flares used
in night exercises at Luke AFB.
>A big "piece of extraterrestrial metal".
None so far...
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:46:37 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
>
> >On Jun 30, 2:28 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>
> No, I didn't. If you had even half a brain you'd be able to
> correctly attribute, so I guess that's a forlorn hope.
>
> >> >Show me one little piece of extraterrestrial metal ... anything ...
>
> >I can show you that you usually poop your pants on a daily basis,
> >that's okay, most debunkers are at that level!
>
> >Now then, we've been over this, you are simply NOT QUALIFIED to
> >inspect the evidence, it's that simple. Our group has inspected it at
> >National Labs such as Sandia, Livermore, and NASA Aimes. It has
> >passed that tests. Now please crawl back into your cave and clean up
> >Casanobrain. Try and learn to understand the concept of toilet paper,
> >and perhaps we can move on to taking a shower. Sheesh, the debunkers
> >literally do stink!!
>
Again, you are NOT qualified to inspect the evidence, in fact, you
probably aren't qualified to wash your clothes, must less wash your
face.
You, Dear Debunker, are a worthless example of a human, if you ARE
human, I'd bet against it.
The Cult of Debunkerism is a cancer on civilization, and the sooner
ALL MANKIND destroys the better!
In the near future when all civilized people coexist with the ETs
friends and foes, the
debunker will be a minor footnote in history.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:10:51 +1000, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Gilligan Horry
> <G...@ga7rm5er.com>:
>
>
>
> >On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:28:23 -0700, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:22:51 -0700, the following appeared
> >>in sci.skeptic, posted by "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name>:
>
> >>>news:0f4c4970-d98d-4b52...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> >>>Where is the physical evidence, LipFlapper ???
>
> >>There is none.
>
> >>>You guys are just like the mindless Jesus freaks, who just know that God
> >>>made it al, because that's what it says in their precious BabbleBook. Yet,
> >>>nobody has ever seen God in person (being high on weed doesn't count) and
> >>>any half way sensible person will see through their schemes as well.
>
> >>>Show me one little piece of extraterrestrial metal ... anything ...
>
> >>Don't hold your breath.
>
> >>>... crickets ...
> >>>... crickets ...
> >>>... crickets ...
> >>>... crickets ...
>
> >Hehe, just like the old days.
>
> >Anyway, the "Phoenix Lights" in Google Images
> >is proof.
>
> I live in the Phoenix area, and the "Phoenix lights" are
> exactly what they're claimed to be - parachute flares used
> in night exercises at Luke AFB.
>
> >A big "piece of extraterrestrial metal".
>
> None so far...
That "none so far" is your answer when I've asked you
#1) How many UFO researchers have you listened to;
#2) How many witnesses have you interviewed;
#3) How much research have you done.
And you always come back with "none so far."
Dear Debunker; Please go find some hog manure pool that you can jump
in,
it may help you!!
Reason and debunkers are like shit and sugar, you just can't sugarcoat
shit!!
Bob Casanova
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
Inability to understand attributions, and who wrote what,
noted.
Bob Casanova
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
Wholeflaffers ASA <sci...@zzz.com>:
Inability to understand the post to which you thought you
were responding, noted.
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:52:25 -0700 (PDT), the following
>
> Inability to understand the post to which you thought you
> were responding, noted.
To Casanobrain:
Inability to debunk any facts proving the presence of ETs on planet
Earth noted.
Inability to come up with even one decent argument against the proof
of ETs noted.
Scientists will go to any lengths to deny the validity of
new theories or the need to change their minds. He describes the
symptoms
associated with fundamental change:
1. Persistent denial
2. Refusal to consider evidence
3. Reluctance to criticize old ideas
4. Slander of new-thinking colleagues
5. Anger at having to give up cherished dogmas
To Casanobrains and the other worthless debunkers, you have failed
miserably to convince anybody of your position. Give up now before
you end up like the other debunkers: drunk, defeated and devasted.
Inability to make any sense or apply even the basic understanding of
logic noted.
Bob Casanova
>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:52:25 -0700 (PDT), the following
>
>>
>> Inability to understand the post to which you thought you
>> were responding, noted.
>
>To Casanobrain:
>
>Inability to debunk any facts
Confirmation of inability to understand English noted.
For the comprehension-challenged (that's you), this means
that my post didn't attempt to "debunk any facts".
<snip>
Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:22:08 -0700 (PDT), the following
> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
>
> >Bob Casanova wrote:
> >> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:52:25 -0700 (PDT), the following
>
> >> Inability to understand the post to which you thought you
> >> were responding, noted.
>
> >To Casanobrain:
>
> >Inability to debunk any facts
>
> Confirmation of inability to understand English noted.
>
pathetic debunker, but so aren't they all?
The spOOks-Kooks-Trolls (SKT) methods are easy to decipher, they use
them repeatedly:
* They never address the good evidence in regards to the ET reality.
They will never in any meaningful way discuss the good scientific work
done on animal mutilations; crop circles and pictographs, alien
abductions; trace cases-where the craft lands and leaves; recovered
down craft; back engineering of alien craft; surgically removed alien
implants, outstanding videos from NASA, etc.
* The SKT's will not argue the evidence, they will attack the person
presenting the evidence. This is their top technique, make the poster
the center-of-attention, and then follow up each other's post with
more nonsense. The Usenet Debunkers are like a pack of hungry wolfs,
the first one makes a snide remark about the poster and the others
follow suit. Flame wars galore. DO NOT LET THIS TECHNIQUE FOOL YOU,
there is real good information on these newsgroups!
Other distinguishing features of the spOOks-KooKs-Trolls:
*Make comments unrelated to do with the subject matter.
*Have closed minds and can't be bothered by facts.
*Refuse to do a stitch of research on this topic.
*Never get within 50 feet of a witness or researcher.
*Attack any book on the topic (except those by the CIA propriety
press: Prometheus).
*Supply gobs and gobs of mis- and dis-information.
*Claim there isn't a credible photo when there has been hundreds if
not
thousands of them, as well as thousands of hours of videos.
*Straw man attack.-they will fashion a dummy position held by a UFO
researcher. Then proceed to rip it apart. Many will discredit the
researcher on this false premise.
*Invoke authority.
*Dismiss the charges as "old news."
*Set the criteria for "proof" incredibly high so that it could never
be reached.
*Always ignore the first-hand testimony of witnesses to the unexpected
credible sightings.
*Practice scientific research by proclamation not investigation.
Bob Casanova
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
>On Jul 6, 2:18 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:22:08 -0700 (PDT), the following
>> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
>> Wholeflaffers ASA <scie...@zzz.com>:
>>
>> >Bob Casanova wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:52:25 -0700 (PDT), the following
>>
>> >> Inability to understand the post to which you thought you
>> >> were responding, noted.
>>
>> >To Casanobrain:
>> >Inability to debunk any facts
>> Confirmation of inability to understand English noted.
>... a
>pathetic debunker, but so aren't they all?
Even further confirmation of inability to understand English
noted.
For the comprehension-challenged (again, that's you), this
means that my post didn't attempt to "debunk any facts";
your snippage of it doesn't make it go away. That's twice
I've had to tell you this; maybe if you learned English
you'd be able to understand it and stop tilting at
windmills.
<snip even more conspiracy-theory idiocy>
Sir Arthur
> Even further confirmation of inability to understand English
> noted.
Obvious obfuscation noted, once a debunker/a-hole always a debunker/a-
hole, like our fiend Mr. Casanobrain here.