Ye would like being a lame, witless fuck.-AnalFacE
> In article <a2sct3$es8$1...@paradoxa.ogoense.net>, "FJ" <president-
> mcna...@theovaloffice.REMOVEcom> wrote:
> >"jet" <morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <a2rrpa$o0n$1...@paradoxa.ogoense.net>, "FJ" <president-
> >> mcna...@theovaloffice.REMOVEcom> wrote:
> >> >"jet" <morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In article <a2rd9c$bnm$1...@paradoxa.ogoense.net>, "FJ" <president-
> >> >> mcna...@theovaloffice.REMOVEcom> wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >> >Oh, it's an autoflame alright, it's just that I don't like to become
> >> >entangled in this particular creativity swamp.
> >> >
> >> Damn, I had -such= a good answer if you flamed me.
> >
> >This I -have- to see. Jet and Spooge sitting in a tree. Kissing.
>
> This is becoming rather more flonkish than flamish, don't you think?
Yup.
> >Call.
>
> It won't work for that. I'll just have to wait for the right opportunity.
> -Then- you'll be sorry.
Promises. Promises.
[...]
> >The alt.flame FAQ is maintained by Stain. The Awards and the FAQ are two
> >entirely different things.
>
> Shouldn't "what are the annual alt.flame awards?" be in the alt.flame FAQ?
No. If that were to be, it would have happened by now. Obviously Stain does
not want it to be in the FAQ, and I would object if he changed his mind.
> >> >> >[4] Fuckhead.
> >> >> >
> >> >> Fuck you.
> >> >
> >> >Fuckhead.
> >> >
> >> Fuck you.
> >
> >Fuckhead. (One day I'll teach you how to cascade properly.)
> >
>Fuck you. (I learned from Grand Master Raoul.)
Fuckhead. (So did I. Latin, French, right-justified and free style.)
> >> >> P.S. Nice formatting.
> >> >
> >> >[Bows].
> >>
> >> I like things nice and tidy.
> >
> >Dotting the Is and crossing the Ts. Mind you, alt.flame is all about
> >verbally crossing someone else's Ts.
> >
> lhal's a very good melaphor.
<broadside heavy guns' fire>
--
FJ
[..]
>> Shouldn't "what are the annual alt.flame awards?" be in the alt.flame FAQ?
> No. If that were to be, it would have happened by now. Obviously Stain does
> not want it to be in the FAQ, and I would object if he changed his mind.
What the hell would be the point of having anything in the FAQ about the
awards? Like the whole affair isn't self-explanatory?
--
alt.flame Special Forces
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a bit longer."
-- Henry Kissinger
--
jet
mhm 32x30
wee saul disciple #32
ich bin ein meower
an official troll of the 2002 winter olympics
> > What the hell would be the point of having anything in the FAQ about
> > the awards? Like the whole affair isn't self-explanatory?
>
> I'm sure I'm not the only one who's asked why it isn't mentioned in
> the FAQ, so that would make it a frequently asked question, no?
no. it would make "why aren't the annual alt.flame awards mentioned in the
alt.flame FAQ?" a frequently asked question.
no. that's not what you said. you said that you weren't the only one who has
asked why it (the awards ceremony) isn't mentioned in the faq.
the question, then, that is frequently asked (by virtue of your having asked
it along with others) is not "what are the alt.flame awards", but "why
aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the FAQ?". those are two different
questions.
> Why isn't it mentioned in the FAQ?
because stain doesn't want it mentioned in the FAQ. pay attention.
sincerely,
our friend the raven
>the question, then, that is frequently asked (by virtue of your having asked
>it along with others) is not "what are the alt.flame awards", but "why
>aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the FAQ?". those are two different
>questions.
>
Yes and the second one is the one I referred to in the sentence above
as a frequently asked question, after being told why the first question
isn't in the FAQ.
Is there something in the water in the UPA groups that makes people
tell me what I said (or meant), when I'm the one who said (or meant)
it, so I'd be the one who knew, no matter how convoluted my sentence
structure was?
>> Why isn't it mentioned in the FAQ?
>
>because stain doesn't want it mentioned in the FAQ. pay attention.
>
Then it should say that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part but
the "stain" part.
>sincerely,
>our friend the raven
>
Any relation to Silver Raven?
He's a Flamenyetter. He already *is* a lame, witless fuck.-FuckHeaD
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[alleged] gay lifestyle."
- Roger "Masturberian2001" Scheissman, blithering idiot, in
<39aadea7.01090...@posting.google.com>
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"I'd say that Fwankie Bonsu (our gay live-in-lover)..."
- Roger "Masturberian2001" Scheissman, homophobe and hypocrite, in
<39aadea7.01102...@posting.google.com>
-----------
"Bus station" is two words, English-disabled moron....Now run along to the
transsexauls [sic] you love to pump in the back alleys of Amsterdam's red
light distirct [sic]."
- Roger "Masturberian2001" Scheissman, Ph.D., in
<39aadea7.01110...@posting.google.com>
For once ye is correct.-BanjoBoY
>>> Yes. That's what I said.
>>
>>no. that's not what you said. you said that you weren't the only one who has
>>asked why it (the awards ceremony) isn't mentioned in the faq.
>
> So, if I wasn't the only one, that would make it a frequently asked
> question.
[...]
>>> Why isn't it mentioned in the FAQ?
>>
>>because stain doesn't want it mentioned in the FAQ. pay attention.
>
> Then it should say that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part but
> the "stain" part.
But if it said that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part, but the
"Stain" part; then the awards would be mentioned in the FAQ and
there'd be no use in having an answer to such an inaccurate question,
and the answer could be safely removed.
--
Ari <fun...@all.at>
Catch 22's "R" Us.
PKB, FaTasS.
Nobody gives a shit about the alt.flame annual slurpfest.-AssHolE
it might (if it were asked frequently enough) make "why aren't the alt.flame
awards mentioned in the FAQ?" a frequently asked question. but that wasn't
the question under discussion. the question under discussion was "what are
the annual alt.flame awards?"
> >the question, then, that is frequently asked (by virtue of your having
asked
> >it along with others) is not "what are the alt.flame awards", but "why
> >aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the FAQ?". those are two
different
> >questions.
> >
> Yes and the second one is the one I referred to in the sentence above
> as a frequently asked question, after being told why the first question
> isn't in the FAQ.
>
> Is there something in the water in the UPA groups
yeah, that's it. nothing to do with your sloppy use of language or your
obstinacy in refusing to admit to even the slightest goof. it's the water.
> >> Why isn't it mentioned in the FAQ?
> >
> >because stain doesn't want it mentioned in the FAQ. pay attention.
> >
> Then it should say that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part but
> the "stain" part.
if it said that in the FAQ, it would constitute mentioning the awards in the
FAQ. and stain doesn't want the awards mentioned in the FAQ. pay attention.
> >sincerely,
> >our friend the raven
> >
> Any relation to Silver Raven?
ain't no silver ravens out here.
What question -you- had under discussion doesn't change what Jeroen
and I had under discussion. The sentence you refer to has no mention
of the question "what are the annual alt.flame awards?", nor was it
meant to, your imagination notwithstanding.
>> >the question, then, that is frequently asked (by virtue of your having
>asked
>> >it along with others) is not "what are the alt.flame awards", but "why
>> >aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the FAQ?". those are two
>different
>> >questions.
>> >
>> Yes and the second one is the one I referred to in the sentence above
>> as a frequently asked question, after being told why the first question
>> isn't in the FAQ.
>>
>> Is there something in the water in the UPA groups
>
>yeah, that's it. nothing to do with your sloppy use of language or your
>obstinacy in refusing to admit to even the slightest goof. it's the water.
>
I can't "goof" in knowing what -I- mean, when I write something. The
"goof" would be you deceptively snipping the bulk of that sentence:
"that makes people tell me what I said (or meant), when I'm the one who
said (or meant) it, so I'd be the one who knew, no matter how convoluted
my sentence structure was?", to answer a few out of context words. Try
applying your answer to the entire question, and you'll see how unrelated
it is. Neither my "sloppy use of the language" nor my "obstinancy"
explains how other people can tell me what I said (when it contradicts
the actual words I use) or meant.
>> >> Why isn't it mentioned in the FAQ?
>> >
>> >because stain doesn't want it mentioned in the FAQ. pay attention.
>> >
>> Then it should say that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part but
>> the "stain" part.
>
>if it said that in the FAQ, it would constitute mentioning the awards in the
>FAQ. and stain doesn't want the awards mentioned in the FAQ. pay attention.
>
You lack charm and a sense of the ridiculous. I think I'd rather continue
this with Ari, since he has a sense of humor.
>> >sincerely,
>> >our friend the raven
>> >
>> Any relation to Silver Raven?
>
>ain't no silver ravens out here.
>
There's a very nice Silver Raven out there. The question was whether you
were related to her, to which (based on your lack of "niceness") the
answer would apparently be "no".
> >it might (if it were asked frequently enough) make "why aren't the
alt.flame
> >awards mentioned in the FAQ?" a frequently asked question. but that
wasn't
> >the question under discussion. the question under discussion was "what
are
> >the annual alt.flame awards?"
> >
> Look at this carefully:
> "I'm sure I'm not the only one who's asked *why it isn't mentioned in
> the FAQ*, so [since I'm not the only one who's asked "why isn't it
> mentioned in the FAQ"] that would make it ["why isn't it mentioned in
> the FAQ"] a frequently asked question, no?"
>
> What question -you- had under discussion
i wasn't in the discussion. pay attention.
> doesn't change what Jeroen
> and I had under discussion.
what you and jeroen had under discussion was, and i quote, "Shouldn't 'what
are the annual alt.flame awards?' be in the alt.flame FAQ?" not "shouldn't
'why aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the alt.flame FAQ?' be
mentioned in the alt.flame FAQ?"
> The sentence you refer to has no mention
> of the question "what are the annual alt.flame awards?",
indeed, it doesn't. it should have, as that was the subject under
discussion. you screwed up and argued in favor of a question that wasn't
under consideration.
mind you, that's an extremely minor error. a person with a healthy
self-esteem would have no trouble copping to it. but, as your frantic
squealing and backpedaling have amply shown, you're not such a person
(precisely why i picked on you, as you've no doubt figured out by now).
> nor was it
> meant to, your imagination notwithstanding.
<chuckle>
"oops, i screwed up" would have only taken four words, jet. the whole thing
would have been forgotten by now.
> >> Is there something in the water in the UPA groups
> >
> >yeah, that's it. nothing to do with your sloppy use of language or your
> >obstinacy in refusing to admit to even the slightest goof. it's the
water.
> >
> I can't "goof" in knowing what -I- mean, when I write something.
sure you can. if you mean to argue X ("what are the alt.flame awards?"
should be in the FAQ) but end up arguing Y ("why aren't the awards mentioned
in the FAQ" should be in the FAQ), that's a goof, goof. backpedaling by
trying to claim that you meant to argue Y makes you look even more goofy,
goofy.
> The
> "goof" would be you deceptively snipping the bulk of that sentence:
> "that makes people tell me what I said (or meant), when I'm the one who
> said (or meant) it, so I'd be the one who knew, no matter how convoluted
> my sentence structure was?",
deceptively? that was the weakest and most flagrantly stupid part of your
argument, goofy. my snipping it hardly hurt your case. but since you insist
on pursuing it...
in a nutshell: to argue that because you know what you meant, you ipso facto
know what you said, is wrong. if you mean to say "the sky is blue" but
inadvertently say words to the effect of "the sky is green," you have said
that the sky is green. period. your cries of "you can't tell me what i
*mean*, maaaan!" do not change this.
to answer a few out of context words. Try
> applying your answer to the entire question, and you'll see how unrelated
> it is. Neither my "sloppy use of the language" nor my "obstinancy"
> explains how other people can tell me what I said (when it contradicts
> the actual words I use) or meant.
the actual words you used were these: "I'm sure I'm not the only one who's
asked why it isn't mentioned in the FAQ, so that would make it a frequently
asked question, no?"
if by "it" you meant the question "what are the annual alt.flame awards?"
(as you now claim you weren't), your logic was faulty. if, OTOH, by "it" you
meant "why aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the faq?", your question
had internal logic but was quite immaterial to the question being discussed.
either way, ya done made a mistake, goofy. learn to take these things in
stride, won't you?
> >> Then it should say that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part but
> >> the "stain" part.
> >
> > if it said that in the FAQ, it would constitute mentioning the awards in
> > the FAQ. and stain doesn't want the awards mentioned in the FAQ. pay
> > attention.
> >
> You lack charm and a sense of the ridiculous. I think I'd rather continue
> this with Ari, since he has a sense of humor.
already looking for a way out? good thinking, goof. you're not entirely
dumb, after all.
> >> >sincerely,
> >> >our friend the raven
> >> >
> >> Any relation to Silver Raven?
> >
> >ain't no silver ravens out here.
> >
> There's a very nice Silver Raven out there.
nice she may be, but a raven she ain't. on my block we dip bitches like that
in paint thinner.
> The question was whether you
> were related to her, to which (based on your lack of "niceness") the
> answer would apparently be "no".
well, that's not very "nice." how would you like it if i "judged" your
"intelligence" by your use of unnecessary "quotation marks"? you wouldn't
like "that," would you? i daresay "not"!
(sense of the ridiculous, she says? this from someone who apparently thinks
i'm a real raven. oh, cruel irony! how thy pincers sting! ouch! o agony! lay
off with the pincers already, damned stupid irony!)
>> nor was it
>> meant to, your imagination notwithstanding.
>
><chuckle>
>
>"oops, i screwed up" would have only taken four words, jet. the whole thing
>would have been forgotten by now.
>
It's was forgotten, I would think, when anyone else reading realized it
was just another of those excessively wordy threads you specialize in.
It's too bad that throwing lots of words at me won't do anything to make
you right. At least, then, you wouldn't be wasting your time.
>> >> Is there something in the water in the UPA groups
>> >
>> >yeah, that's it. nothing to do with your sloppy use of language or your
>> >obstinacy in refusing to admit to even the slightest goof. it's the
>water.
>> >
>> I can't "goof" in knowing what -I- mean, when I write something.
>
>sure you can. if you mean to argue X ("what are the alt.flame awards?"
>should be in the FAQ) but end up arguing Y ("why aren't the awards mentioned
>in the FAQ" should be in the FAQ), that's a goof, goof. backpedaling by
>trying to claim that you meant to argue Y makes you look even more goofy,
>goofy.
>
and still isn't a goof in knowing what I -meant-, which is what I stated.
That's exactly what I meant in my original comment, btw. Since I meant to
argue Y, and did, indeed, do so in a post secondary to the discussion of
X, you've illustrated it nicely. You not only were mistaken about what
I -meant- to say, you're trying to reverse engineer what I actually wrote.
>> The
>> "goof" would be you deceptively snipping the bulk of that sentence:
>> "that makes people tell me what I said (or meant), when I'm the one who
>> said (or meant) it, so I'd be the one who knew, no matter how convoluted
>> my sentence structure was?",
>
>deceptively? that was the weakest and most flagrantly stupid part of your
>argument, goofy. my snipping it hardly hurt your case. but since you insist
>on pursuing it...
>
>in a nutshell: to argue that because you know what you meant, you ipso facto
>know what you said, is wrong.
>
Since I never made that argument, I agree with you. My statement, to
paraphrase, was that I know what I meant *or* said, better than anyone
else, because I'm the one who wrote it.
if you mean to say "the sky is blue" but
>inadvertently say words to the effect of "the sky is green," you have said
>that the sky is green. period.
>
Exactly. You're finally catching on.
your cries of "you can't tell me what i
>*mean*, maaaan!" do not change this.
>
If I wrote the sky is green, I'd still -mean- the sky was blue, even if I
made a writing error. If I wrote the sky is green, no matter how many
times you told me I *said* the sky was blue, I still would have said
[written] the sky is green. Ones mind doesn't change with what one types,
nor does the printed word change because of what you -think- I meant.
> to answer a few out of context words. Try
>> applying your answer to the entire question, and you'll see how unrelated
>> it is. Neither my "sloppy use of the language" nor my "obstinancy"
>> explains how other people can tell me what I said (when it contradicts
>> the actual words I use) or meant.
>
>the actual words you used were these: "I'm sure I'm not the only one who's
>asked why it isn't mentioned in the FAQ, so that would make it a frequently
>asked question, no?"
>
>if by "it" you meant the question "what are the annual alt.flame awards?"
>(as you now claim you weren't), your logic was faulty. if, OTOH, by "it" you
>meant "why aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the faq?", your question
>had internal logic but was quite immaterial to the question being discussed.
>
You have the peculiar notion that casual banter is "discussion" that can't
drift any way the spirit takes it.
>either way, ya done made a mistake, goofy. learn to take these things in
>stride, won't you?
>
Nonsense.
>> >> Then it should say that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part but
>> >> the "stain" part.
>> >
>> > if it said that in the FAQ, it would constitute mentioning the awards in
>> > the FAQ. and stain doesn't want the awards mentioned in the FAQ. pay
>> > attention.
>> >
>> You lack charm and a sense of the ridiculous. I think I'd rather continue
>> this with Ari, since he has a sense of humor.
>
>already looking for a way out? good thinking, goof. you're not entirely
>dumb, after all.
>
I don't need a way out. I'm in, you aren't. It's quite simple, when you
realize that 3 intelligent people have no problem understanding the
context of the thread, while you're nattering about immaterial problems
of logic and form in what was, essentially, inconsequential word play.
It's not really important, though, as there are always wet blankets, like
you, at any party.
>well, that's not very "nice." how would you like it if i "judged" your
>"intelligence" by your use of unnecessary "quotation marks"? you wouldn't
>like "that," would you? i daresay "not"!
>
If you're that foolish, far be it from me to question it. You've attempted
to judge my intelligence by even more ridiculous standards than that.
<shrug>
>(sense of the ridiculous, she says? this from someone who apparently thinks
>i'm a real raven. oh, cruel irony! how thy pincers sting! ouch! o agony! lay
>off with the pincers already, damned stupid irony!)
>
I think of you as more of a jay; "yappy", combative and intrusive.
[...a bunch of deceptive snipping...]
> >(precisely why i picked on you, as you've no doubt figured out by now).
> >
> I know exactly why.
>
> <aside>
> When you're number two, you have to try harder.
> </aside>
"deceptively snipping," she said, before snipping deceptively. i notice the
part about what you and jeroen were discussing has mysteriously vanished.
that's the tactic of someone who's, um, coming in "number two."
> >"oops, i screwed up" would have only taken four words, jet. the whole
thing
> >would have been forgotten by now.
> >
> It's was forgotten, I would think, when anyone else reading realized it
> was just another of those excessively wordy threads you specialize in.
> It's too bad that throwing lots of words at me won't do anything to make
> you right. At least, then, you wouldn't be wasting your time.
"excessively wordy," she said, kicking off another novel. fuck, can you move
those little typing fingers at all without issuing pkbs by the bucketload?
> >sure you can. if you mean to argue X ("what are the alt.flame awards?"
> >should be in the FAQ) but end up arguing Y ("why aren't the awards
mentioned
> >in the FAQ" should be in the FAQ), that's a goof, goof. backpedaling by
> >trying to claim that you meant to argue Y makes you look even more goofy,
> >goofy.
> >
> and still isn't a goof in knowing what I -meant-, which is what I stated.
> That's exactly what I meant in my original comment, btw. Since I meant to
> argue Y, and did, indeed, do so in a post secondary to the discussion of
> X, you've illustrated it nicely. You not only were mistaken about what
> I -meant- to say, you're trying to reverse engineer what I actually wrote.
reverse engineering something means figuring out how it was designed, you
silly little shrew. if you mean that i'm twisting your words around, say so.
at least that's a few clicks more credible than "i meant to do that!" and it
makes you look less like someone who just fell out of her chair in class.
> >in a nutshell: to argue that because you know what you meant, you ipso
facto
> >know what you said, is wrong.
> >
> Since I never made that argument, I agree with you. My statement, to
> paraphrase, was that I know what I meant *or* said, better than anyone
> else, because I'm the one who wrote it.
bra-fucking-vo, hon. the problem is that you didn't say what you meant. of
course, i can't prove this without expensive mindscanning equipment priced
well beyond the budget of an unmarried raven. so, alas alack, i'll have to
settle for watching you struggle to look like you did.
> if you mean to say "the sky is blue" but
> >inadvertently say words to the effect of "the sky is green," you have
said
> >that the sky is green. period.
> >
> Exactly. You're finally catching on.
<great big eyeroll>
> your cries of "you can't tell me what i
> >*mean*, maaaan!" do not change this.
> >
> If I wrote the sky is green, I'd still -mean- the sky was blue, even if I
> made a writing error.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and there's the meat of it. you did make a writing error (a *really itty
bitty* one, as you'll recall i was *really gosh darned careful* to point
out). and what tickles my little humerus is that you'll fight to the death
to avoid admitting it.
> If I wrote the sky is green, no matter how many
> times you told me I *said* the sky was blue, I still would have said
> [written] the sky is green. Ones mind doesn't change with what one types,
> nor does the printed word change because of what you -think- I meant.
and the sky will still be blue, no matter what you say or mean. and "what
are the alt.flame annual awards" and "why aren't the awards mentioned in the
FAQ" will still be two different questions. and your goof-up in switching
from one to the other will still be a goof-up.
> >if by "it" you meant the question "what are the annual alt.flame awards?"
> >(as you now claim you weren't), your logic was faulty. if, OTOH, by "it"
you
> >meant "why aren't the alt.flame awards mentioned in the faq?", your
question
> >had internal logic but was quite immaterial to the question being
discussed.
> >
> You have the peculiar notion that casual banter is "discussion" that can't
> drift any way the spirit takes it.
<jet>
hey--i didn't say that! you can't tell me i said that! how dare you tell me
what i say or mean! only i can possibly know that! help! rape! fire!
</jet>
> >either way, ya done made a mistake, goofy. learn to take these things in
> >stride, won't you?
> >
> Nonsense.
ah-hee-hee. you're right, of course. i should know better than to suggest
that you relax. it's the social worker in me. carry on.
> >> >> Then it should say that in the FAQ; not the "pay attention" part but
> >> >> the "stain" part.
> >> >
> >> > if it said that in the FAQ, it would constitute mentioning the awards
in
> >> > the FAQ. and stain doesn't want the awards mentioned in the FAQ. pay
> >> > attention.
> >> >
> >> You lack charm and a sense of the ridiculous. I think I'd rather
continue
> >> this with Ari, since he has a sense of humor.
> >
> >already looking for a way out? good thinking, goof. you're not entirely
> >dumb, after all.
> >
> I don't need a way out. I'm in, you aren't.
<giggle>
scratch a meower, find a moderator. now you're the arbitrator of who's "in"
the thread! lmfao...fucking classic.
> It's quite simple, when you
> realize that 3 intelligent people have no problem understanding the
> context of the thread, while you're nattering about immaterial problems
> of logic and form in what was, essentially, inconsequential word play.
oh, is that what all that cowflop about "casual banter" was building up to?
"shucks, i was jes' playin'." a more deft backpedal than i usually read
around here, i guess.
> It's not really important, though, as there are always wet blankets, like
> you, at any party.
...usually covering the "guest of honor" as he or she gets pummeled.
> >well, that's not very "nice." how would you like it if i "judged" your
> >"intelligence" by your use of unnecessary "quotation marks"? you wouldn't
> >like "that," would you? i daresay "not"!
> >
> If you're that foolish, far be it from me to question it. You've attempted
> to judge my intelligence by even more ridiculous standards than that.
> <shrug>
i judged you by 1) your stubbornness, 2) your refusal to admit mistakes, and
3) the swiss-cheese arguments you make in doing number 2. (errr, number 2 on
the
*list*, i mean. although...).
those seem like sound things to judge you by. got some fiction or poetry
you'd like me to look at? by all means post it. i'm down for a chuckle.
> >(sense of the ridiculous, she says? this from someone who apparently
thinks
> >i'm a real raven. oh, cruel irony! how thy pincers sting! ouch! o agony!
lay
> >off with the pincers already, damned stupid irony!)
> >
> I think of you as more of a jay; "yappy", combative and intrusive.
*gasp* in these here placid newsgroups? say it ain't so!
>If I wrote the sky is green, I'd still -mean- the sky was blue, even if I
>made a writing error. If I wrote the sky is green, no matter how many
>times you told me I *said* the sky was blue, I still would have said
>[written] the sky is green. Ones mind doesn't change with what one types,
>nor does the printed word change because of what you -think- I meant.
You've never heard of deconstructionism, have you?
__________
Hogarth
__________
>In article <icdd5u8lv4gus56fn...@4ax.com>, Hogarth <hog...@address-pending.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:58:12 GMT, in alt.flame
>>morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If I wrote the sky is green, I'd still -mean- the sky was blue, even if I
>>>made a writing error. If I wrote the sky is green, no matter how many
>>>times you told me I *said* the sky was blue, I still would have said
>>>[written] the sky is green. Ones mind doesn't change with what one types,
>>>nor does the printed word change because of what you -think- I meant.
>>
>>You've never heard of deconstructionism, have you?
>>
>Of course not. I haven't heard of postmodernism, either, and would
>rather not start now.
Well, congratulations on running off to the search engines. Which
definition made most sense to you?
_________
Hogarth
_________
that's the post war ideology demonstrated by the guys in hardhats,
right?
--
JA15x6,2
> Which
>definition made most sense to you?
>
It's supposed to make sense?
>In article <pped5ukaq40fl0f7s...@4ax.com>, Hogarth <hog...@address-pending.com> wrote:
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:57:38 GMT, in alt.flame
>>morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <icdd5u8lv4gus56fn...@4ax.com>, Hogarth
>> <hog...@address-pending.com> wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:58:12 GMT, in alt.flame
>>>>morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If I wrote the sky is green, I'd still -mean- the sky was blue, even if I
>>>>>made a writing error. If I wrote the sky is green, no matter how many
>>>>>times you told me I *said* the sky was blue, I still would have said
>>>>>[written] the sky is green. Ones mind doesn't change with what one types,
>>>>>nor does the printed word change because of what you -think- I meant.
>>>>
>>>>You've never heard of deconstructionism, have you?
>>>>
>>>Of course not. I haven't heard of postmodernism, either, and would
>>>rather not start now.
>>
>>Well, congratulations on running off to the search engines.
>>
>Oh, good, it isn't just me. -Everyone- is immune to sarcasm in the
>morning.
>
A tawdry dodge. If you understood deconstructionism, why would you
have written "nor does the printed word change because of what you
-think- I meant"?
>> Which
>>definition made most sense to you?
>>
>It's supposed to make sense?
Definitions generally do - that's their raison d'être. Or would you
prefer to debate the idea of "definition" from a deconstructionist
standpoint?
_________
Hogarth
_________
> If you understood deconstructionism, why would you
>
I don't understand it, because it's completely foreign to the way
I think. I have, as you asked, "heard of deconstructionism". Better?
>have written "nor does the printed word change because of what you
>-think- I meant"?
>
Possibly you could explain to me how deconstructionism relates to the
inability of meaning to change the physical reality of a printed word.
You can choose any interpretation of the word 'cat' that you wish but,
the word on the page is still c-a-t, and telling me that I wrote 'dog'
or meant dog doesn't change it.
>>> Which
>>>definition made most sense to you?
>>>
>>It's supposed to make sense?
>
>Definitions generally do - that's their raison d'être. Or would you
>prefer to debate the idea of "definition" from a deconstructionist
>standpoint?
>
Neither debate nor literary criticism are my fields of expertise,
I'm afraid. If you'd like to discuss the value of culturally biased
definitions in anthropological research, though, I'm your girl.
Yup - cheap and tacky. No argument about it being a dodge, I see.
>> If you understood deconstructionism, why would you
>>
>I don't understand it, because it's completely foreign to the way
>I think. I have, as you asked, "heard of deconstructionism". Better?
Rather inconsistent, I'm afraid, so no. It's possible to understand
something without it being part of one's standard frame of reference -
otherwise, how would you deal with a completely new experience?
>>have written "nor does the printed word change because of what you
>>-think- I meant"?
>>
>Possibly you could explain to me how deconstructionism relates to the
>inability of meaning to change the physical reality of a printed word.
>You can choose any interpretation of the word 'cat' that you wish but,
>the word on the page is still c-a-t, and telling me that I wrote 'dog'
>or meant dog doesn't change it.
Possibly I could, but since you don't understand the concept it would
be a waste of time. Perhaps some background reading on the subject
would help you.
>>>> Which
>>>>definition made most sense to you?
>>>>
>>>It's supposed to make sense?
>>
>>Definitions generally do - that's their raison d'être. Or would you
>>prefer to debate the idea of "definition" from a deconstructionist
>>standpoint?
>>
>Neither debate nor literary criticism are my fields of expertise,
>I'm afraid.
No shit.
_________
Hogarth
_________
>>> If you understood deconstructionism, why would you
>>>
>>I don't understand it, because it's completely foreign to the way
>>I think. I have, as you asked, "heard of deconstructionism". Better?
>
>Rather inconsistent, I'm afraid, so no. It's possible to understand
>something without it being part of one's standard frame of reference -
>
Indeed, so what part of "I don't understand it" did you not understand?
>otherwise, how would you deal with a completely new experience?
>
Dealing doesn't require understanding, you know. Could you make all
these questions a little more relevent?
>>>have written "nor does the printed word change because of what you
>>>-think- I meant"?
>>>
>>Possibly you could explain to me how deconstructionism relates to the
>>inability of meaning to change the physical reality of a printed word.
>>You can choose any interpretation of the word 'cat' that you wish but,
>>the word on the page is still c-a-t, and telling me that I wrote 'dog'
>>or meant dog doesn't change it.
>
>Possibly I could, but since you don't understand the concept it would
>be a waste of time. Perhaps some background reading on the subject
>would help you.
>
I'm sure your explanation will be just as informative as background
reading. I understand English, so please procede to enlighten me.
>>>>> Which
>>>>>definition made most sense to you?
>>>>>
>>>>It's supposed to make sense?
>>>
>>>Definitions generally do - that's their raison d'être. Or would you
>>>prefer to debate the idea of "definition" from a deconstructionist
>>>standpoint?
>>>
>>Neither debate nor literary criticism are my fields of expertise,
>>I'm afraid.
>
>No shit.
>
You make that sound so sinful. I confess, I loathe formal debate.
I take it cultural anthropology isn't one of your fields of expertise,
since you snipped the invitation to discuss it. Hmm. There must be
-something- we have in common, besides trying to dodge an explanation
of deconstructionism. How about archaeological signs of epidemic disease?
Do you have any frame of reference for that?
jet wrote:
Post colonialism and deconstructionism not only borrows from anthropology but actually attempts to (re)
read the historical, cultural, political and social narratives (ideosphere) in which anthropology, as a
science, was birthed. Deconstructionism goes further back than the Enlightenment, however, and suggests
that the written word (language) was the first form of technology (anthropology).
Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials are you looking at? Domestic and
medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
>Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials are you
> looking at? Domestic and
>medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
>
I'm not, currently, looking at anything but my monitor, but thanks
for your interest.
Now, go away.
jet wrote:
<tips hat>
> >Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials are you
> > looking at? Domestic and
> >medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
> >
> I'm not, currently, looking at anything but my monitor, but thanks
> for your interest.
>
> Now, go away.
You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from time to time.
Wow what a wicked thing to do, actually reply to your post. How *will*
fnord be able to sleep at night now?
I suggest you keep your "pristine virginal" threads off of global
Usenet in future as any old passer by might inconvenience you with a
follow-up.
>>Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials are you
>> looking at? Domestic and
>>medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
Bubonic plague carrying rat's skeletons anyone?
Egyptian AIDS infested used syringes in ancient kiddies sand pits,
perhaps? This may explain why a line of Pharaohs died out with
Tutankhamoun...
>I'm not, currently, looking at anything but my monitor, but thanks
>for your interest.
>
>Now, go away.
Oooh. Nasty too.
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>> >Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials are you
>> > looking at? Domestic and
>> >medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
>> >
>> I'm not, currently, looking at anything but my monitor, but thanks
>> for your interest.
>>
>> Now, go away.
>
>You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from time to
> time.
>
Whatever you say, child. Feel free to indulge in one of your endless,
rounds of assumption and inferrence with Hogarth, in my place. As is
usual, whenever you enter a thread, it's lost all entertainment value
for me.
<plonk>
>I suggest you keep your "pristine virginal" threads off of global
>Usenet in future as any old passer by might inconvenience you with a
>follow-up.
>
How many times have a told you that quotation marks are for quotations?
[...]
>In article <3C587EEC...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jet wrote:
>>
>>> In article <3C587BA1...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>[...]
>>> Thanks for fucking up the thread by answering that. <sigh>
>>
>><tips hat>
>>
>At least you have one talent.
>
>>> >Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials are you
>>> > looking at? Domestic and
>>> >medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
>>> >
>>> I'm not, currently, looking at anything but my monitor, but thanks
>>> for your interest.
>>>
>>> Now, go away.
>>
>>You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from time to
>> time.
>>
>Whatever you say, child. Feel free to indulge in one of your endless,
>rounds of assumption and inferrence with Hogarth, in my place. As is
>usual, whenever you enter a thread, it's lost all entertainment value
>for me.
>
><plonk>
You know it's a funny thing, but while I was in Brisbane I visited an
old mate from Melbourne. I called him he said "no worries, mate, drop
over, all the Victorian ex-pats are here" So I arrived with the
traditional case of VB only to discover the boys had all degenerated
into Four X drinkers due to peer group pressure (Aside: Four X is only
drinkable in Qld, don't ask me why it's prolly the humidity, but who
knows?) They were all mighty glad to see yours truly lugging the good
old green cardboard I can tell you. So much so that barely half the 24
stubbies made it to the bath full of ice. I got precisely two of them
before I was sucking down Four X myself.
"Shit" I thought to myself, "they lasted about as long as one of Jet's
<plonk>'s"...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 00:36:52 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
> calendar. The troll morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) attempted to
> push back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this,
> their latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
> ><plonk>
>
> You know it's a funny thing, but while I was in Brisbane I visited an
> old mate from Melbourne. I called him he said "no worries, mate, drop
> over, all the Victorian ex-pats are here" So I arrived with the
> traditional case of VB only to discover the boys had all degenerated
> into Four X drinkers due to peer group pressure (Aside: Four X is only
> drinkable in Qld, don't ask me why it's prolly the humidity, but who
> knows?) They were all mighty glad to see yours truly lugging the good
> old green cardboard I can tell you. So much so that barely half the 24
> stubbies made it to the bath full of ice. I got precisely two of them
> before I was sucking down Four X myself.
>
> "Shit" I thought to myself, "they lasted about as long as one of Jet's
> <plonk>'s"...
Please keep your indecipherable Oz nonsense off the American Internet.
Thank you.
--
Aaron M. Henne -flaagg mhm9x2-
PLANET F WEBSITE: http://home.attbi.com/~flaagg/
someone else's science project.
There's another kind of Internet besides American?
--
Tubby Chubbs, mhm i x i
sh0ck the m0nkey
I understand the Chinese have an Internet now, too, but they don't let
anyone use the thing.
I see, your foreign policy *is* supported by teh population...
Anyone know if there is a MacDougals on top of Everest yet?
>In article <jv3h5u897l87ccnl5...@4ax.com>, optional...@petitmorte.net wrote:
>>On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:12:02 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>>calendar. The troll morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) attempted to
>>push back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this,
>>their latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>>
>>>In article <3C587BA1...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>[...]
>>>Thanks for fucking up the thread by answering that. <sigh>
>>
>>Wow what a wicked thing to do, actually reply to your post. How *will*
>>fnord be able to sleep at night now?
>>
>Reading your posts should help.
>
>>I suggest you keep your "pristine virginal" threads off of global
>>Usenet in future as any old passer by might inconvenience you with a
>>follow-up.
>>
>How many times have a told you that quotation marks are for quotations?
>
Coward.
"" marks are routinely used to paraphrase teh lame. HTFHNR.
A-ha ! So that's where they're keeping all the good stuff.
Plans for an establishment at the base camp at 17,800' were scrapped,
but in the meantime, be sure and visit the White Castle at the
Tashilumpo Monastery in Xigatse. Yum.
>>>"Wow what a wicked thing to do, actually reply to your post. How *will*
>>>fnord be able to sleep at night now?"
>>>
>>Reading your posts should help.
>>
>>>"I suggest you keep your "pristine virginal" threads off of global
>>>Usenet in future as any old passer by might inconvenience you with a
>>>follow-up."
>>>
>>How many times have a told you that quotation marks are for quotations?
>>
>"Coward."
>
>""" marks are routinely used to paraphrase teh lame. HTFHNR."
>
I'll keep that in mind.
>Plans for an establishment at the base camp at 17,800' were scrapped,
>but in the meantime, be sure and visit the White Castle at the
>Tashilumpo Monastery in Xigatse. Yum.
again i envy your monopolizing clutch on neat info. who-what?
--
JA15x6,2
Teh Chigalese now chew gum...
>In article <5gch5u4sjtot7mp07...@4ax.com>, optional...@petitmorte.net wrote:
>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 00:52:15 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>>calendar. The troll morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) attempted to
>>push back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this,
>>their latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>>
>>>In article <jv3h5u897l87ccnl5...@4ax.com>,
>> optional...@petitmorte.net wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 23:12:02 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>>>>calendar. The troll morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) attempted to
>>>>push back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this,
>>>>their latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>>>>
>>>>>In article <3C587BA1...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>[...]
>>>>>Thanks for fucking up the thread by answering that. <sigh>
>>>>
>This was very rude of me. You know how it is, though. You're just
>getting acquainted with someone and some Ozzie bitchtit comes up
>and starts belching over the conversation.
Aw, can't handle teh competishion, huh?
>>>>"Wow what a wicked thing to do, actually reply to your post. How *will*
>>>>fnord be able to sleep at night now?"
>>>>
>>>Reading your posts should help.
>>>
>>>>"I suggest you keep your "pristine virginal" threads off of global
>>>>Usenet in future as any old passer by might inconvenience you with a
>>>>follow-up."
>>>>
>>>How many times have a told you that quotation marks are for quotations?
>>>
>>"Coward."
>>
>>""" marks are routinely used to paraphrase teh lame. HTFHNR."
>>
>I'll keep that in mind.
Erm para- being a prefix, prolly means sumping, I dunno.
> In article <3C587EEC...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>jet wrote:
>>
>>> In article <3C587BA1...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com>
>>> wrote:
> [...]
>>> Thanks for fucking up the thread by answering that. <sigh>
>>
>><tips hat>
>>
> At least you have one talent.
>
>>> >Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials
>>> >are you
>>> > looking at? Domestic and
>>> >medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
>>> >
>>> I'm not, currently, looking at anything but my monitor, but thanks
>>> for your interest.
>>>
>>> Now, go away.
>>
>>You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from
>>time to
>> time.
>>
> Whatever you say, child. Feel free to indulge in one of your endless,
> rounds of assumption and inferrence with Hogarth, in my place. As is
> usual, whenever you enter a thread, it's lost all entertainment value
> for me.
>
> <plonk>
You misspelled 'runs away'.
HTH
--
You're so very ordinary
You're so very lame
Tastes like whiskey on your lips
And earthworms rule your brain
Yes there is. AOLCanada.
HTH.
Does that stand for Aboot On-Line Canada?
(I've been listening to cbc radio all afternoon, ummm, apparently
"night" as well)
>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 03:10:39 GMT, smoke...@doublejoint.edu (Tubby
Tashilumpo Monastery was lucky to have survived the cultural
reformation (or should I say, *a* cultural reformation, seeing as how
they seem to crop up with alarming frequency). The White Castle
should have been doomed--being of obvious foreign heritage--but it
was deemed to *possess* no intrinsic cultural value, and thus was
spared.
I think my clutch is slipping.
Chigalets?
And teh Masi Mara now wear furs... I hope you merkans bees happy wiv
yerselves, I trooly doo...
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:39:39 -0500, JungleAcid <jazz...@fast.net>
I feel you are teh merkan imperialist pig dog.. But that may be just
me, aks teh daily Llama he may hlep and that...
Only in the Maritime Provinces where they talk like that. On this side of
the Rockies it's pronounced *abOUt*. We point and laugh at them, too. :)
> (I've been listening to cbc radio all afternoon, ummm, apparently
> "night" as well)
Make sure you listen long enough to make them earn the part of my taxes
they waste on the radio network. I recover most of those tax dollars by
watching Hockey Night in Canada on the TV version of CBC. As long as they
keep Don Cherry on the air I don't begrudge them their gluttony at the
public trough... not much anyways.
Or for paraphrasing, para being operative, are you still stupid?
you *are* still stupid then...
Well, not really but I'm trying to be soothing and supportive to you,
during this difficult time.
--
jet mhm 32x30 | official troll
wee saul disciple #32 | of the 2002
ich bin ein meower | winter olympics
>In article <ofuh5uka58fcik9f9...@4ax.com>, optional...@petitmorte.net wrote:
>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 07:40:21 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>>calendar. The troll morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) attempted to
>>push back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this,
>>their latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>[...]
>>>>>>>>""" marks are routinely used to paraphrase teh lame. HTFHNR."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'll keep that in mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Erm para- being a prefix, prolly means sumping, I dunno.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Didn't I just tell you that quotation marks are for quotations? Are
>>>>>you getting senile, or something?
>>>>
>>>>Or for paraphrasing, para being operative, are you still stupid?
>>>>
>>>I didn't tell you that, my forgetful friend. Clue: think about why they
>>>aren't called paraphrase marks.
>>
>>you *are* still stupid then...
>>
>Impressive logic, OpI.
>
>Well, not really but I'm trying to be soothing and supportive to you,
>during this difficult time.
Thanks jet it's not like I don't appreciate it...
Wot time woz that then???
[the breaching of jet's personal private thread]
> > Now, go away.
>
> You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from
> time to time.
hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
> Someone looking over my shoulder this evening said:
"don't squirm when i thrust, bitch. and put that keyboard down."
Oh that would be all the time then?
>
Oh come on, why can't we all just get along?
>>> > Now, go away.
>>>
>>> You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from
>>> time to time.
>>
Then why didn't you do so? Nothing in your reply pointed out any error
of mine, did it?
Have you found anyone but Russell who -wants- to debate with you,
child? There's a reason for that, and it isn't because they fear your
intelligence or wit.
>>hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
>>
>Oh come on, why can't we all just get along?
>
It's alt.flame, OpI.
>[piggyback]
>In article <e94i5u49e94fm5sr5...@4ax.com>,
>optional...@petitmorte.net wrote:
>>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:56:48 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>>calendar. The troll "the raven" <ne...@more.com> attempted to push
>>back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this, their
>>latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>>
>>>
>>>"fnord" <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3C587EEC...@bigpond.com...
>>>
>>>[the breaching of jet's personal private thread]
>>>
>Neither personal nor private. It was just something enjoyable; so rare
>when people like you are around.
>
>>>> > Now, go away.
>>>>
>>>> You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from
>>>> time to time.
>>>
>Then why didn't you do so? Nothing in your reply pointed out any error
>of mine, did it?
>
>Have you found anyone but Russell who -wants- to debate with you,
>child? There's a reason for that, and it isn't because they fear your
>intelligence or wit.
I am afeared of her and shit.
>>>hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
>>>
>>Oh come on, why can't we all just get along?
>>
>It's alt.flame, OpI.
No, no, it's altdotalienvampiresandso-on, we lurve each other in this
froup, fuck alt.thingy...
> [piggyback]
4:36 pm: jet plonks fnord.
1:58 am: jet lames fnord from behind a killfile.
that's just under 9 1/2 hours. i wonder how long optional identity's beer
lasted?
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:56:48 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
> calendar. The troll "the raven" <ne...@more.com> attempted to push
> back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this, their
> latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
> >hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
> >
> Oh come on, why can't we all just get along?
That's an easy one. "Not Getting Along" is hard-coded into humanity;
it's Mother Nature's attempt to slow down overpopulation and brother-
sister marriages.
What -I- want to know is why can't we all just turn inside out when
threatened, and scare the hell out of muggers?
--
Aaron M. Henne -flaagg mhm9x2-
PLANET F WEBSITE: http://home.attbi.com/~flaagg/
someone else's science project.
Yup. It's alt.flame. What's your point?
>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 00:36:52 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>calendar. The troll morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) attempted to
>push back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this,
>their latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
(yawns)
>><plonk>
>
>You know it's a funny thing, but while I was in Brisbane I visited an
>old mate from Melbourne. I called him he said "no worries, mate, drop
>over, all the Victorian ex-pats are here" So I arrived with the
>traditional case of VB only to discover the boys had all degenerated
>into Four X drinkers due to peer group pressure (Aside: Four X is only
>drinkable in Qld, don't ask me why it's prolly the humidity, but who
>knows?) They were all mighty glad to see yours truly lugging the good
>old green cardboard I can tell you. So much so that barely half the 24
>stubbies made it to the bath full of ice. I got precisely two of them
>before I was sucking down Four X myself.
>
>"Shit" I thought to myself, "they lasted about as long as one of Jet's
><plonk>'s"...
*plonk*
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I haven't the slightest incentive to educate you, I'm afraid. Are you
always this intellectually lazy?
>>>> If you understood deconstructionism, why would you
>>>>
>>>I don't understand it, because it's completely foreign to the way
>>>I think. I have, as you asked, "heard of deconstructionism". Better?
>>
>>Rather inconsistent, I'm afraid, so no. It's possible to understand
>>something without it being part of one's standard frame of reference -
>>
>Indeed, so what part of "I don't understand it" did you not understand?
Of course, it was the whole sentence I took issue with, rather than
the first part devoid of any context. Nice try, though.
>>otherwise, how would you deal with a completely new experience?
>>
>Dealing doesn't require understanding, you know. Could you make all
>these questions a little more relevent?
Dealing poorly or unsuccessfully doesn't, for sure. Most people would
rule out that option without prompting, though.
>>>>have written "nor does the printed word change because of what you
>>>>-think- I meant"?
>>>>
>>>Possibly you could explain to me how deconstructionism relates to the
>>>inability of meaning to change the physical reality of a printed word.
>>>You can choose any interpretation of the word 'cat' that you wish but,
>>>the word on the page is still c-a-t, and telling me that I wrote 'dog'
>>>or meant dog doesn't change it.
>>
>>Possibly I could, but since you don't understand the concept it would
>>be a waste of time. Perhaps some background reading on the subject
>>would help you.
>>
>I'm sure your explanation will be just as informative as background
>reading. I understand English, so please procede to enlighten me.
Unfortunately I am immune to the PLEASE EXPLAIN genre troll, though it
probably works well enough on the plankton you usually hang around
with. However, you are obviously keen to learn, so perhaps you should
"procede" to a good search engine and acquaint yourself with the
concepts?
>>>>>> Which
>>>>>>definition made most sense to you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>It's supposed to make sense?
>>>>
>>>>Definitions generally do - that's their raison d'être. Or would you
>>>>prefer to debate the idea of "definition" from a deconstructionist
>>>>standpoint?
>>>>
>>>Neither debate nor literary criticism are my fields of expertise,
>>>I'm afraid.
>>
>>No shit.
>>
>You make that sound so sinful. I confess, I loathe formal debate.
One definition of a debate is an exchange between matched opponents -
so your loathing is understandable.
>I take it cultural anthropology isn't one of your fields of expertise,
>since you snipped the invitation to discuss it. Hmm. There must be
>-something- we have in common, besides trying to dodge an explanation
>of deconstructionism. How about archaeological signs of epidemic disease?
>Do you have any frame of reference for that?
I'm always mindful of the entertainment value of a thread, which is
why I snipped the - doubtless kind and sincere - invitation, and must
ruthlessly slap down your alternative. As for maybe having something
in common, I despise the pondlife which seems to be clinging to this
thread. If stupidity were punishable by death, most of them would have
been bludgeoned to a smooth pulp while still in the womb.
_________
Hogarth
_________
>always this intellectually lazy?
>
At my advanced age, I can pick and choose what I want to research. Right
now, I have another project that I'm more interested in. However, my mama
taught me a lady should always be courteous about a gentleman's particular
interests.
>>>>> If you understood deconstructionism, why would you
>>>>>
>>>>I don't understand it, because it's completely foreign to the way
>>>>I think. I have, as you asked, "heard of deconstructionism". Better?
>>>
>>>Rather inconsistent, I'm afraid, so no. It's possible to understand
>>>something without it being part of one's standard frame of reference -
>>>
>>Indeed, so what part of "I don't understand it" did you not understand?
>
>Of course, it was the whole sentence I took issue with, rather than
>the first part devoid of any context. Nice try, though.
>
About it being foreign to the way I think? Until you can explain the
part, below, about how it's related to the physical reality of the printed
word, your "issue" is misdirected.
>>>otherwise, how would you deal with a completely new experience?
>>>
>>Dealing doesn't require understanding, you know. Could you make all
>>these questions a little more relevent?
>
>Dealing poorly or unsuccessfully doesn't, for sure. Most people would
>rule out that option without prompting, though.
>
Hardly. Acceptance and tolerance go a long way towards dealing, until one
reaches understanding.
>>>>>have written "nor does the printed word change because of what you
>>>>>-think- I meant"?
>>>>>
>>>>Possibly you could explain to me how deconstructionism relates to the
>>>>inability of meaning to change the physical reality of a printed word.
>>>>You can choose any interpretation of the word 'cat' that you wish but,
>>>>the word on the page is still c-a-t, and telling me that I wrote 'dog'
>>>>or meant dog doesn't change it.
>>>
>>>Possibly I could, but since you don't understand the concept it would
>>>be a waste of time. Perhaps some background reading on the subject
>>>would help you.
>>>
>>I'm sure your explanation will be just as informative as background
>>reading. I understand English, so please procede to enlighten me.
>
>Unfortunately I am immune to the PLEASE EXPLAIN genre troll, though it
>probably works well enough on the plankton you usually hang around
>with. However, you are obviously keen to learn, so perhaps you should
>
I believe I already told you I -wasn't- keen to learn. I'm just giving
in to pressure, so you can get all this deconstructionist crap off your
chest. I assumed you wouldn't keep banging on about it, unless it was
important to you.
>"procede" to a good search engine and acquaint yourself with the
>concepts?
>
Atrocious spelling, I know. I have a bad habit of reversing letters.
>>>>>>> Which
>>>>>>>definition made most sense to you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's supposed to make sense?
>>>>>
>>>>>Definitions generally do - that's their raison d'être. Or would you
>>>>>prefer to debate the idea of "definition" from a deconstructionist
>>>>>standpoint?
>>>>>
>>>>Neither debate nor literary criticism are my fields of expertise,
>>>>I'm afraid.
>>>
>>>No shit.
>>>
>>You make that sound so sinful. I confess, I loathe formal debate.
>
>One definition of a debate is an exchange between matched opponents -
>so your loathing is understandable.
>
Indeed.
>>I take it cultural anthropology isn't one of your fields of expertise,
>>since you snipped the invitation to discuss it. Hmm. There must be
>>-something- we have in common, besides trying to dodge an explanation
>>of deconstructionism. How about archaeological signs of epidemic disease?
>>Do you have any frame of reference for that?
>
>I'm always mindful of the entertainment value of a thread, which is
>why I snipped the - doubtless kind and sincere - invitation, and must
>ruthlessly slap down your alternative. As for maybe having something
>in common, I despise the pondlife which seems to be clinging to this
>thread. If stupidity were punishable by death, most of them would have
>been bludgeoned to a smooth pulp while still in the womb.
>
Ah, then we do have something in common. Behold me, giddy with joy.
> In article <It968.221937$TC1.14...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
> "the raven" <ne...@more.com> wrote:
> >
> >"jet" <morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net> wrote in message
> >news:a3b4j3$hh1$0...@pita.alt.net...
> >
> >> [piggyback]
> >
> >4:36 pm: jet plonks fnord.
> >1:58 am: jet lames fnord from behind a killfile.
> >
> /me looks up at group line
>
> Yup. It's alt.flame. What's your point?
that you're a pussy, of course.
Ye plagiarized that from one of my many fan posts.-AssHolE
>In article <It968.221937$TC1.14...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>, "the raven" <ne...@more.com> wrote:
>>
>>"jet" <morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net> wrote in message
>>news:a3b4j3$hh1$0...@pita.alt.net...
>>
>>> [piggyback]
>>
>>4:36 pm: jet plonks fnord.
>>1:58 am: jet lames fnord from behind a killfile.
>>
>/me looks up at group line
>
>Yup. It's alt.flame. What's your point?
erm, SPANK?
Yes, yes I believe that was her point.
>In article <e94i5u49e94fm5sr5...@4ax.com>, Optional
>Identity <Troll4U...@meow.org> says...
>
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:56:48 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>> calendar. The troll "the raven" <ne...@more.com> attempted to push
>> back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this, their
>> latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>
>> >hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
>> >
>> Oh come on, why can't we all just get along?
>
>That's an easy one. "Not Getting Along" is hard-coded into humanity;
>it's Mother Nature's attempt to slow down overpopulation and brother-
>sister marriages.
>
>What -I- want to know is why can't we all just turn inside out when
>threatened, and scare the hell out of muggers?
>
When you put it like that, I too want to know why we can't. Although I
suspect if we could turn ourselves inside out, it wouldn't be much
more than a party trick by the time you were five.
I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
>On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:03:00 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>calendar. The troll Flaagg <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAIL_attbi.com>
>attempted to push back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by
>poasting this, their latest creation, in
>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>
>>In article <e94i5u49e94fm5sr5...@4ax.com>, Optional
>>Identity <Troll4U...@meow.org> says...
>>
>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:56:48 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
>>> calendar. The troll "the raven" <ne...@more.com> attempted to push
>>> back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this, their
>>> latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
>>
>>> >hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
>>> >
>>> Oh come on, why can't we all just get along?
>>
>>That's an easy one. "Not Getting Along" is hard-coded into humanity;
>>it's Mother Nature's attempt to slow down overpopulation and brother-
>>sister marriages.
>>
>>What -I- want to know is why can't we all just turn inside out when
>>threatened, and scare the hell out of muggers?
>>
>When you put it like that, I too want to know why we can't. Although I
>suspect if we could turn ourselves inside out, it wouldn't be much
>more than a party trick by the time you were five.
>
>I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
*plonk*
__________
Hogarth
__________
> I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
you're not rubbing the bible hard enough.
--
little toad
It rather looks as though I did.
>It was my impression you were trying to bombard
>me with deconstruction until I became interested; not an effective method,
>if you don't mind my saying so.
You're not even interested in something which may enlighten you; one
can't help but suspect that this is because it might contradict what
you posit at the top of the thread.
>>always this intellectually lazy?
>>
>At my advanced age, I can pick and choose what I want to research.
One can always choose what one wants to research; the only finite
currency in that regard is free time. What has age got to do with it?
>Right now, I have another project that I'm more interested in.
>However, my mama taught me a lady should always be courteous about a
>gentleman's particular interests.
Very Jane Austen, I'm sure. Surely an independent-minded person such
as yourself would have rejected such a submissive strategy?
>>>>>> If you understood deconstructionism, why would you
>>>>>>
>>>>>I don't understand it, because it's completely foreign to the way
>>>>>I think. I have, as you asked, "heard of deconstructionism". Better?
>>>>
>>>>Rather inconsistent, I'm afraid, so no. It's possible to understand
>>>>something without it being part of one's standard frame of reference -
>>>>
>>>Indeed, so what part of "I don't understand it" did you not understand?
>>
>>Of course, it was the whole sentence I took issue with, rather than
>>the first part devoid of any context. Nice try, though.
>>
>About it being foreign to the way I think? Until you can explain the
>part, below, about how it's related to the physical reality of the printed
>word, your "issue" is misdirected.
Again with the "please explain" schtick? If you take time out of your
hectic schedule to spend a few minutes researching deconstructionism,
you would understand how it related to the printed word. A lack of
even the most fleeting interest in new ideas in those of "advanced
age" is a great shame, though all too common.
>>>>otherwise, how would you deal with a completely new experience?
>>>>
>>>Dealing doesn't require understanding, you know. Could you make all
>>>these questions a little more relevent?
>>
>>Dealing poorly or unsuccessfully doesn't, for sure. Most people would
>>rule out that option without prompting, though.
>>
>Hardly. Acceptance and tolerance go a long way towards dealing, until one
>reaches understanding.
Acceptance and tolerance prior to understanding? That sounds like
another one of your mama's quaint aphorisms.
>>>>>>have written "nor does the printed word change because of what you
>>>>>>-think- I meant"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Possibly you could explain to me how deconstructionism relates to the
>>>>>inability of meaning to change the physical reality of a printed word.
>>>>>You can choose any interpretation of the word 'cat' that you wish but,
>>>>>the word on the page is still c-a-t, and telling me that I wrote 'dog'
>>>>>or meant dog doesn't change it.
>>>>
>>>>Possibly I could, but since you don't understand the concept it would
>>>>be a waste of time. Perhaps some background reading on the subject
>>>>would help you.
>>>>
>>>I'm sure your explanation will be just as informative as background
>>>reading. I understand English, so please procede to enlighten me.
>>
>>Unfortunately I am immune to the PLEASE EXPLAIN genre troll, though it
>>probably works well enough on the plankton you usually hang around
>>with. However, you are obviously keen to learn, so perhaps you should
>>
>I believe I already told you I -wasn't- keen to learn. I'm just giving
>in to pressure, so you can get all this deconstructionist crap off your
>chest. I assumed you wouldn't keep banging on about it, unless it was
>important to you.
Giving in to pressure is never perceived as a Good Thing in a.f. It
equates to a lack of mental toughness.
>>"procede" to a good search engine and acquaint yourself with the
>>concepts?
>>
>Atrocious spelling, I know. I have a bad habit of reversing letters.
You should be more careful. It can look very much like poor literacy
skills.
>>>>>>>> Which
>>>>>>>>definition made most sense to you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's supposed to make sense?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Definitions generally do - that's their raison d'être. Or would you
>>>>>>prefer to debate the idea of "definition" from a deconstructionist
>>>>>>standpoint?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Neither debate nor literary criticism are my fields of expertise,
>>>>>I'm afraid.
>>>>
>>>>No shit.
>>>>
>>>You make that sound so sinful. I confess, I loathe formal debate.
>>
>>One definition of a debate is an exchange between matched opponents -
>>so your loathing is understandable.
>>
>Indeed.
Still, I'm sure you'll improve.
>>>I take it cultural anthropology isn't one of your fields of expertise,
>>>since you snipped the invitation to discuss it. Hmm. There must be
>>>-something- we have in common, besides trying to dodge an explanation
>>>of deconstructionism. How about archaeological signs of epidemic disease?
>>>Do you have any frame of reference for that?
>>
>>I'm always mindful of the entertainment value of a thread, which is
>>why I snipped the - doubtless kind and sincere - invitation, and must
>>ruthlessly slap down your alternative. As for maybe having something
>>in common, I despise the pondlife which seems to be clinging to this
>>thread. If stupidity were punishable by death, most of them would have
>>been bludgeoned to a smooth pulp while still in the womb.
>>
>Ah, then we do have something in common. Behold me, giddy with joy.
It's a start, I suppose. Once you've recovered your equilibrium, maybe
you could address your deplorable lack of intellectual curiosity as an
encore.
__________
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__________
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the raven wrote:
> "fnord" <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:3C587EEC...@bigpond.com...
>
> [the breaching of jet's personal private thread]
[Followed by a serious loss of plot]
How DAAARE you enter my special thread, didn't you see that line in the
sand? How dare you point out how stupid I am in front of a very important
alt.flame person. Ooh, this one hadn't yet realized how much of a vacant
shrew I am (Or maybe he did). We were bonding, man. Things were going my
way. Now you've... well, you've just wuined it all!
Wah!
> > > Now, go away.
> >
> > You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from
> > time to time.
>
> hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
Fuckhead.
jet wrote:
> In article <3C587EEC...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >jet wrote:
> >
> >> In article <3C587BA1...@bigpond.com>, fnord <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> [...]
> >> Thanks for fucking up the thread by answering that. <sigh>
> >
> ><tips hat>
> >
> At least you have one talent.
>
> >> >Archaeological signs of epidemic disease? What kinds of materials are you
> >> > looking at? Domestic and
> >> >medicinal artefacts? Artwork? Language?
> >> >
> >> I'm not, currently, looking at anything but my monitor, but thanks
> >> for your interest.
> >>
> >> Now, go away.
> >
> >You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from time to
> > time.
<stands back to avoid spittle>
> Whatever you say, child. Feel free to indulge in one of your endless,
> rounds of assumption and inferrence with Hogarth, in my place. As is
> usual, whenever you enter a thread, it's lost all entertainment value
> for me.
>
> <plonk>
*** Spank ***
jet wrote:
> [piggyback]
> In article <e94i5u49e94fm5sr5...@4ax.com>,
> optional...@petitmorte.net wrote:
> >On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:56:48 GMT, according to the old (pre-meow)
> >calendar. The troll "the raven" <ne...@more.com> attempted to push
> >back the boundaries of post-contemporary UPA, by poasting this, their
> >latest creation, in alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
> >
> >>
> >>"fnord" <lu...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >>news:3C587EEC...@bigpond.com...
> >>
> >>[the breaching of jet's personal private thread]
> >>
> Neither personal nor private. It was just something enjoyable; so rare
> when people like you are around.
"Oh".
<vacant hair flick>
"It was just something... enjoyable"
<titter>
Then take it to fucking email, you pathetic little clique-head. If you don't
like people responding to your posts, then get the fuck off usenet (Or plonk
me a second time, mheh).
It's not my job to make this fun for you.
> >>> > Now, go away.
> >>>
> >>> You're full of shit, and it remains a pleasure to point it out from
> >>> time to time.
> >>
> Then why didn't you do so? Nothing in your reply pointed out any error
> of mine, did it?
>
> Have you found anyone but Russell who -wants- to debate with you,
> child? There's a reason for that, and it isn't because they fear your
> intelligence or wit.
Russell hasn't been around for months, sweatpea. Oh, and you've used that
particular lame before, word for word. I'm suitably gutted a second time.
Out of interest, do you cut and paste these things?
> >>hey, we agree on something! you're still a tard, though.
> >>
> >Oh come on, why can't we all just get along?
> >
> It's alt.flame, OpI.
You're forgetting teh flonk and romath, you idiotic clusterfuck.
jet wrote:
> In article <3c61a7af...@news.alt.net>, imbe...@banjo.bot (Raynaird Chason Is A Fuckhead) wrote:
> >morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net (jet) wrote:
> >>"the raven" <ne...@more.com> wrote:
> >>>"jet" <morr...@pyrophore.ogoense.net> wrote
> >>>
> >>>> [piggyback]
> >>>
> >>>4:36 pm: jet plonks fnord.
> >>>1:58 am: jet lames fnord from behind a killfile.
> >>>
> >>/me looks up at group line
> >>
> >>Yup. It's alt.flame. What's your point?
> >
> >What's wrong with flaming from behiind a killfile?
> >
> It's just *wrong*. Kinda like morphing is the root of all evil.
It's not that it's wrong, per-se, so much as immeasurably stupid. It's especially idiotic right after
someone claims you're full of shit. After all, it makes the point beautifully.
You cowardly little dodgefuck.
the raven wrote:
What beer?
> If you take time out of your hectic schedule to spend a few minutes
> researching deconstructionism, you would understand how it related to the
> printed word.
thanks a lot, hogarth now i'm going to have to go study up on it
myself, printed word junkie that i am. while my schedule may not be as
hectic as jet's, i certainly have plenty on my plate at the moment. but
you've piqued my interest and now i've just gotta know what it's all
about. if this forces me to read a bunch of books or something, i'll
hold you personally responsible.
obfuckhead: fuckhead.
Fuck sports.
> In article <1f6vy23.xizj3nlgpakgN%que...@hermajesty.com>, The Queen of
> Cans and Jars <que...@hermajesty.com> says...
>
> > Hogarth <hog...@address-pending.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 08:57:30 +1100, in alt.flame Optional Identity
> > > <Troll4U...@meow.org> wrote:
[...]
> > > >I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
> > >
> > > *plonk*
> >
> > what took you so long?
>
> Fuck sports.
Q. At the university, who takes the course on Egyptian plumbing?
A. Pharaoh-faucet majors!
--
FJ
[..]
> *plonk*
What took you so long?
--
alt.flame Special Forces
"A billion here, a billion there -- pretty soon you're talking about real
money." -- Senator Everett Dirksen, on the U.S. defense budget
[..]
>> > > >I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
>> > >
>> > > *plonk*
>> >
>> > what took you so long?
>>
>> Fuck sports.
> Q. At the university, who takes the course on Egyptian plumbing?
> A. Pharaoh-faucet majors!
The sincerest form of flattery.
> In alt.flame FJ <president...@theovaloffice.removecom> wrote:
> >> > Hogarth <hog...@address-pending.com> wrote:
> >> > > On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 08:57:30 +1100, in alt.flame Optional Identity
> >> > > <Troll4U...@meow.org> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> >> > > >I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
> >> > >
> >> > > *plonk*
> >> >
> >> > what took you so long?
> >>
> >> Fuck sports.
>
> > Q. At the university, who takes the course on Egyptian plumbing?
>
> > A. Pharaoh-faucet majors!
>
> The sincerest form of flattery.
*swoosh*
--
FJ
>When you put it like that, I too want to know why we can't. Although I
>suspect if we could turn ourselves inside out, it wouldn't be much
>more than a party trick by the time you were five.
>
>I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
because a puddle on the floor won't really provide self defense or
prevent being seen. dropping limbs, however, would be a cool bonus.
--
JA15x6,2
>Fuck sports.
those are the best kind!
--
JA15x6,2
Don Cherry ROX!!1!!
--
You're so very ordinary
You're so very lame
Tastes like whiskey on your lips
And earthworms rule your brain
[..]
>> >> > > >I want to know why we don't squirt ink like an octopus.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > *plonk*
>> >> >
>> >> > what took you so long?
>> >>
>> >> Fuck sports.
>>
>> > Q. At the university, who takes the course on Egyptian plumbing?
>>
>> > A. Pharaoh-faucet majors!
>>
>> The sincerest form of flattery.
> *swoosh*
That was one of Abernathy's.