UFO`s in the Bible
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slug
(can't remember if it was new or old testatment) which described a UFO in
great detail considering the times it was written. I can't phrase it
exactly but it mentioned something about a wheel within wheels turning
around with light all around it. perhaps someone could look that up
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ron...@mailexcite.com wrote:
>
> When you type "Roswell" in the BIBLEDECODER program, you will see
> "UFO" next to it.....
> AMAZING !!!
>
> Explore the Bible yourself for evidence of hidden code in your native
> language !
>
> http://bibledecoder.com/
>
>
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Grantland
>I'm not a bible reader, but I do remember reading a passage from Ezekial
>(can't remember if it was new or old testatment) which described a UFO in
>great detail considering the times it was written. I can't phrase it
>exactly but it mentioned something about a wheel within wheels turning
>around with light all around it. perhaps someone could look that up
>
Actually it's not Ezekial - it's Diplodicus 11:14, I quote the
entire (dramatasized in Gaian Chronicles) section:
Grantland
THE WHEEL
The Truthsayer - voice only [distastefullyl
The standard-lifeform cycle is ugliest of all.
Always the killing.
[Music, birdseye sea-forest scene,credits roll...finish]
The Truthsayer [ somewhat "theatrically" angry. Looks nervously
over his shoulder]
Entered eerie-strange-revolting and unsettlingly bizarre; of
horrifying madness folly dredged.
Exposed at last!
Morbid, brain-sick fantasy wanton heretic denier of accustomed
and acknowleged Truth; dangerous-dark renegade beyond control.
Insolent blasphemer! persisting careless, unrepentant fabricator
of forbidden secular "Truth". Actual Affirmation of mythic
Actual History and all the shameful, sorry, heretic madnesses of
that blasphemously alleged "reality". A so-called "realist"?!
[Looks nervously over his shoulder again.]
[All 3 females giggle delightedly. A tambourine is lightly
rattled.]
The SUPER-HUMAN
The mad are predators! Too often lately they harbour against us.
A novel heresy exculpates all maiméd souls. Forewarned have I
thwarted their imminent devices.
Abjure it!
Today I name them; tomorrow I shall express the new law. I
dedicate my awakening to this matter.
The Truthsayer - voice only (fervently)
[ I Hail the Super-Human! I call it Death-in-Life and Life-in-
Death. ]
1st Human (boldly)
Clash of salutation!
Ambassadors, pilgrims. The Frankish gift, two-edged, regaled
with slaughter. Mystic-made white metal effusing its own
fragrance; a variety of balm.
And other miracles, other exchanges.
(expression changes, voice becomes assertive)
Swagger shaggy-blonde brass arrogance; a baring of white teeth.
Massed-expectance martial trumpet flurry.
Ritual, Regal red-stallion-neck-rippling nervous-whinnying up-
foot strutting of horse.
Studiedformal measuremasking mutual muted musky gingerprickle
caution.
Wary toasting-horn inverted, spinning inward inner distance
Disturbed.
[expression changes again - triumphant]
Bright! new riverwater spliced, and swallowed; dirty-yellow
camel-piss-white-wine; New-speared pig skew-sputtering over sulk-
sulking eyeburn-swirl grey crimson; swaying helmet-crests invoke
the breeze.
The ancient drum of horses on the plain.
2nd Human (derisively)
The starry-eyed buffoon clumsy-buttbutt-buttressing folly
ignorant apostasy.
Variously dubious slogan suspicious novel moral maxim -
subversive destructuralism! Boat-rocker.
Forever bumbling vacuously into new horizons, rigid private
organ in right hand, drooling wetly. Too stupid to sleep. (FYGs
giggle lightly)
The Truthsayer -voice only (thoughtfully)
Pain purifies, but not for long
Soon the rot sets in
Purity, like paint
Requires Renewal.
1 st Human - (declamatory)
Attributes assumed, retribution entertained. Indulgences of
bartered acclaim; an expenditure, a hissing. Wine, urine, and
ashes.
Invocation: [shuts his eyes and intones monotonouslyl White-fat-
cold-but-yet-so-sweet-and-fresh-and-wetly-succulent-crisp-and-
juicy-pig, [pause] and-butter-dripping-bright-gold-sweetcorn-
background-smell-of-spicy-warm-and-wine-stained-ancient-leather.
Remembrance.
[FYGs titter derisively.]
[long silence 10+ secs]
3rd Human [ dreamily, prettily, yet with sophistication]
The sea is calm tonight.
The tide is full, the moon lies fair
Upon the straits; On the far coast the light
Gleams and is gone; the cliffs of England stand,
Glimmering and vast, out in the tranquil bay.
[An appreciative murmer from the FYGs.]
Come to the window; sweet is the night air!
Only, from the long line of spray
Where the sea meets the moon-blanched land
Listen!
You hear the grating roar
Of pebbles which the waves draw back, and fling,
At their return, up the high strand.
Begin, and cease, and then again begin.
With tremulous cadence slow and bring
The eternal note of sadness in.
[general murners of approval, light rustling of tambourines, a
few seconds of silence.]
1st Human - voice only - seriously and urgently
- Tracks of ancient occupation. Hearthstones, charred lullabies.
Weighty secrets shallow-buried.
Longstill antique enigma of thorn-thicket; silverdark the ridged
gleam. Groves of legendary holly; a solitary ax-blow.
[With desperation-] Our children and our children's children, o
my masters!
[FYGs giggle]
The SUPER-HUMAN
I am the alpha and the omega; the beginning and the ending,
the first and the last. Which is, which was, and which is to be.
The Truthsayer [voice only]
The order is insensibly subverted
As the ceremony of innocence is drowned.
4th Human (languidly)
Pastel reverie of ages; beads, bangles and trinkets...
The Truthsayer [voice only]
Driftwood in an eddy needs be rocked.
The splendid falls await.
4th Human
A muffled laugh; a stirring. Ennui and enervation overcome. Too
late!
(She bursts into pitiful weeping)
The Truthsayer - [implacable voice]
Crack of doom from the hydrogen jukebox; the lost battalion,
reeling. Wayward child run down by the maddened taxi-cabs of
Absolute Reality. All changed; changed utterly. A terrible
beauty is born.
[background lightiny changes to red, rumble of kettle-drums]
The SUPER-HUMAN -voice only
I am Mars the destroyer. The red dragon; the purveyor; the
Breaker, and the Maker. He that giveth, and He that taketh away.
The Truthsayer - (fervently)
I Hail the Super-Human! I call it Life-in-Death and Death-in-
Life.
[falls prostrate on floor, face down]
[long music interlude as 1H, 2H speak, & after, background red
fades subtly toward whitej
1st human, voice only (sounds tired)
Always-duty grinding years hard-heavy just-woke matted beard and
grim, cold, sour and mucus-early-morning mouth; and slimy,
clumsy creaking-cold grey fishscale ruststreak mail.
Remembrance.
2nd Human, very sadly/seriously -
A tendentious time, lamented. Expostulation of refutation;
denials. The myriad murmer of locusts. A search for innocence.
[long pause]
And other miracles, other exchanges.
[background lighting changes to gold]
Ist Human (Voice/face alive with wonder, looking up religiously]
Evening assumes the incandescent forests.
A shaft of lumen sun, a rising.
A solitary shadow sweeps the flickering evergreen fissured with
light.
The SUPER-HUMAN [fervently]
And all who heard should see them there
And all should cry "Beware!" "Beware!"
[voices onlyl
2H, 3H & 4H together - "His flashing eyes, his floating hair.."
[All together]
Weave a circle round him thrice
And close your eyes in holy dread.
For he on honydew hath fed
And drunk the milk of paradise.
John R Nickolls
slug wrote:
I'm not a bible reader, but I do remember reading a passage from Ezekial
(can't remember if it was new or old testatment) which described a UFO in
great detail considering the times it was written. I can't phrase it
exactly but it mentioned something about a wheel within wheels turning
around with light all around it. perhaps someone could look that up
It's Old Testament, slug. The story is set about 2600 years ago.
Story starts right at Chapter 1. I posted some of the following info to someone else a little while ago, then found the book I referred to. "The Spaceships of Ezekiel" was written by JF Blumrich in 1972, and published by Corgi in Great Britain in 1974. It was originally published in German under the title of "Da tat sich der Himmel auf". (Whatever that means!)
This is a very interesting analysis of the story from an engineering viewpoint, as Blumrich was (claims to have been?) an aerospace engineer. Indeed, he includes a photo of a wind tunnel test of the shape he envisages the 'chariot' to have been.
The descriptions of the 'occupants' of the craft and their actions is
speculative, but sensible. Though he says he was inspired by von
Däniken, his book leaves vD cold, in my opinion.
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fred winters
wendy redding
made it !!!!!!!!! there is a GOD ...........
Gloria Good
love, gloryorio
dr...@greatland.net
winters) wrote:
>Aliens and t5he bible? Come on!!! Both are nothing more than works of
>fiction! We are alone and the bible is nothing more than a book written
>by man. Putting the two together would make a nice movie of the week!
>Look to humanity, not to the heavens and a false god
Absolutely not true. Many parts of the Old Testament have shown
demonstrable accuracy. Some of the ancient cities unearthed by
archaeologists have been found solely by the evidence of the OT. As
far as the New Testament, many of the characters have been proven to
be real people. Not that I am any kind of Bible thumper, but there
are an awful lot of bits in the Bible that are proven accurate, and
surprisingly few that are proven inaccurate.
As for the existence of aliens, that, too, is the subject of much
debate, and only a fool would say they don't exist. If you were to say
that they've never come to Earth you would at least not necessarily
look stupid. In light of all this, the vision of Ezekial is certainly
open to interpretation and speculation, and your arrogance is
unfounded, and particularly close-minded (assuming you have a
functioning mind at all...).
drew
dr...@greatland.net
Good) wrote:
>Bravo!
Ditto my response to him to you...
drew
bear
fred winters wrote:
Aliens and t5he bible? Come on!!! Both are nothing more than works of fiction! We are alone and the bible is nothing more than a book written by man. Putting the two together would make a nice movie of the week!
Cecil B. Demil already did the movie. bear
Look to humanity, not to the heavens and a false god
bear
dr...@greatland.net wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:01:06 -0400 (EDT), Fod...@webtv.net (fred
> winters) wrote:
>
> >Aliens and t5he bible? Come on!!! Both are nothing more than works of
> >fiction! We are alone and the bible is nothing more than a book written
> >by man. Putting the two together would make a nice movie of the week!
> >Look to humanity, not to the heavens and a false god
>
> Absolutely not true. Many parts of the Old Testament have shown
> demonstrable accuracy. Some of the ancient cities unearthed by
> archaeologists have been found solely by the evidence of the OT. As
> far as the New Testament, many of the characters have been proven to
> be real people. Not that I am any kind of Bible thumper, but there
> are an awful lot of bits in the Bible that are proven accurate, and
> surprisingly few that are proven inaccurate.
>
> As for the existence of aliens, that, too, is the subject of much
> debate, and only a fool would say they don't exist. If you were to say
> that they've never come to Earth you would at least not necessarily
> look stupid. In light of all this, the vision of Ezekial is certainly
> open to interpretation and speculation, and your arrogance is
> unfounded, and particularly close-minded (assuming you have a
> functioning mind at all...).
Be careful, Drew. You know what happens when you assume. bear
>
>
> drew
dr...@greatland.net
I was TRYING to give him the benefit of the (dare I say it?) doubt.
:-)
drew
Aaron LeClair
is the only way to your salvation. The bible is THE ONE AND ONLY WORD OF
GOD. How do I know this? Caus the bible says so. Wee that was fun 8>.
Yal watch out for stones, I heard Pat Robertson is wanting ufologist
stoned to death. I guess he missed that part in the bible that says
somethin like don't kill/murder, or judge.
bear
Aaron LeClair wrote:
Don't forget turn the other cheek, and love your enemy. bear
Aaron LeClair
GAP
Grantland wrote:
> "slug" <vu...@volvo.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not a bible reader, but I do remember reading a passage from Ezekial
> >(can't remember if it was new or old testatment) which described a UFO in
> >great detail considering the times it was written. I can't phrase it
> >exactly but it mentioned something about a wheel within wheels turning
> >around with light all around it. perhaps someone could look that up
> >
> Actually it's not Ezekial - it's Diplodicus 11:14, I quote the
> entire (dramatasized in Gaian Chronicles) section:
>
Sorry... it was Ezekial, chapter 1.
"Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth
day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the
heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God. In the fifth day of the month,
which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin's captivity, The word of the LORD
came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the
Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was there upon him.
And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud,
and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the
midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out
of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was
their appearance; they had the had four wings. And their feet were straight
feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they
sparkled like the colour of burnished brass. And they had the hands of a man
under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their
wings. Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went;
they went every one straight forward. As for the likeness of their faces, they
four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the side; they four
also had the face of an eagle. Thus were their faces: and their wings were
stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two
covered their bodies. And they went every one straight forward: whither the
spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they
went. As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like
burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down
among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went
forth lightning. And the living creatures ran and returned as
the appearance of a flash of lightning. Now as I beheld the living creatures,
behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.
The appearance of the wheels
and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one
likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the
middle of a wheel. When they went,
they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went. As for
their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were
full of eyes round about them four. And when the living creatures went, the
wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the
earth, the wheels were lifted up. Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they
went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over
against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. When
those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were
lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the
spirit of the living creature was in the wheels. And the likeness of the
firmament upon the heads of the living
creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their
heads above. And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward
the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had
two, which covered on that side, their bodies. And when they went, I heard the
noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the
Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they
let down their wings. And there
was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and
had let down their wings. And above the firmament that was over their heads
was the likeness of a
throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the
throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. And I saw as
the colour of amber, as the
appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins
even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it
were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. As the
appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the
appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the
likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and
I heard a voice of one that spake."
--Ezek 1:1-28 KJV
Marmiga
>
> Grantland wrote:
>
> > "slug" <vu...@volvo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I'm not a bible reader, but I do remember reading a passage from Ezekial
> > >(can't remember if it was new or old testatment) which described a UFO in
> > >great detail considering the times it was written. I can't phrase it
> > >exactly but it mentioned something about a wheel within wheels turning
> > >around with light all around it. perhaps someone could look that up
> > >
> > Actually it's not Ezekial - it's Diplodicus 11:14, I quote the
> > entire (dramatasized in Gaian Chronicles) section:
> >
>
peace, mmg
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>HOW DO YOU KNOW WE ARE ALONE-DID GOD TELL YOU??
>
>
Some of God's snail mail went astray and it had the vital
clue in it.
If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think
little of robbing, and from robbing he comes next to drinking and
Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination.
Thomas De Quincey - Murder Considered as One of the Fine Arts
Corrosion
>(can't remember if it was new or old testatment) which described a UFO in
>great detail considering the times it was written. I can't phrase it
>exactly but it mentioned something about a wheel within wheels turning
>around with light all around it. perhaps someone could look that up
hell, there's a lot of things in the bible that can make anyone think it's
ufos.. those who don't believe it just don't want to accept the truth...
(my english is not so good, but you'll know what i mean)
in the Moises story, it's said that God was walking on pure sapphire-like
ground or something... it looks to me like the heat of the ufo could have
turned sand into glass ...
The fact that the Ark could have been some kind of transmitter is very
probable, since David when he was COMMUNICATING with God with it, would win
every battle... and anyone that touched it would die, probably because it
was radioactive or something...
there's lots of proofs of that... in fact, reading on it gives credibility
even to the greek mythology...
Corrosion
Jerry Bryson
>
>
> hell, there's a lot of things in the bible that can make anyone think it's
> ufos.. those who don't believe it just don't want to accept the truth...
Yup, it's about the only way to be superstitious and an atheist at the
same time.
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Sjakie van het Zakie !
subject!
I don't know what the adresses are, but I have read a lot about this on the
Internet, with a lot more evidence.
Just look for them under: Bible or something, with Yahoo, AltaVista or
Inference Find or whatever.
Good luck,
Sjakie van het Zakie
Jerry Bryson heeft geschreven in bericht
<1dcp2nv.10f...@pm4-191.richmond.infi.net>...
Jerry Bryson
> About those UFO's in bible; did you know that there are webpages about this
> subject!
There are web pages about every subject.
> I don't know what the adresses are, but I have read a lot about this on the
> Internet, with a lot more evidence.
I am not surprised. Some people make a pretty good living out of
misinterpreting the Bible.
> Just look for them under: Bible or something, with Yahoo, AltaVista or
> Inference Find or whatever.
Sorry, I went through all this long before there was an Internet.
Bill Tello
Bill T.
Tyler Zeck
discussed here is an idea that I myself have entertained. But we have to
look at more. Whether Aliens have influenced Earth or not, be it in the
bible or not, the events that must have occured, in the order they must
have occured in for the world to have even been formed to begin with are
completely too unprobable to have happened by chance. Even the greatest
aethist and scientists are baffled by it. The odds against our planet
even being able to support life are astronomically high!
One large arguament FOR the existence of aliens is that the galaxy is
too large for us to be alone. This is an unsubstantial argument because
even if another planet somewhere in the Galaxay just happened to have
the exact same fluke as earth did in being able to support life or even
better, develop life, the odds of intelligent life forming on that
planet are even more astronomical than the formation of the planet. The
fact that humans are intelligant is amazing.
Instead of seeing the galaxy as being too large for only us to exist,
mabe we should consider that this planet is too small for us to stay on.
Now I'm not certain if I believe in God or not, but I do know that this
planet isn't big enough, and I believe we will expand somehow, and it
seems to me that mabe, just mabe, some all powerful force DID make the
Universe, and it is all for us, because he loves us so much.
Let's not discount God just because of some stories that were handed
down by word of mouth for thousands of years before ever being put on
paper, just because some of them resemble unproven claims of what people
today are seeing.
I have seen a UFO, and it resembled nothing that I have ever read in teh
bible. I don't know. It may have been an alien space craft, but
consider. This planet is amazing. The Northern Lights have been mistaken
for UFO's many times. As have Heat Waves, and experimental air planes,
and shooting stars, and sattelites from our own planet which are moving
to a different orbit or are falling to earth. With all the bizzarre
things we know about this planet, most specifically, the strange
properties of water, is it hard to believe that some of Earth's
properties can cause us to see strange sights?
Before we jump to conclusions, we should look at all the facts!
Steven
Tyler Zeck wrote:
> I'm not trying to discredit what any of you are saying. What is being
> discussed here is an idea that I myself have entertained. But we have to
> look at more. Whether Aliens have influenced Earth or not, be it in the
> bible or not, the events that must have occured, in the order they must
> have occured in for the world to have even been formed to begin with are
> completely too unprobable to have happened by chance. Even the greatest
> aethist and scientists are baffled by it.
Such as?
> The odds against our planet
> even being able to support life are astronomically high!
>
Well it does, doesn't it? I hope so.
> One large arguament FOR the existence of aliens is that the galaxy is
> too large for us to be alone. This is an unsubstantial argument because
> even if another planet somewhere in the Galaxay just happened to have
> the exact same fluke as earth did in being able to support life or even
> better, develop life, the odds of intelligent life forming on that
> planet are even more astronomical than the formation of the planet.
Out of curiousity if the universe is infinitely large then what are the
chances of other planets having life? Haven't you ever heard of the
infinite number of monkeys with typewriters with an infinite amount of time.
(Actually the infinite amount of time isn't necessary but included anyway)
> The
> fact that humans are intelligant is amazing.
Well in your case I'd have to analyze that a little further.
> Instead of seeing the galaxy as being too large for only us to exist,
> mabe we should consider that this planet is too small for us to stay on.
Well **MAYBE** you just crossed a track that has nothing whatsoever to do
with the rest of your comments...Maybe we'll decide that we all want to
terraform the moon into something that can sustain life in the future and
all humans move to the moon. Those that didn't want to move to the moon
would be left behind on Earth to die. Or maybe we'll decide that we all
want to committ mass suicide. Maybe we'll alter the genes of pigs so that
they have wings.
> Now I'm not certain if I believe in God or not
Either be an athiest or a believer. Those that ride the fence saying maybe
are just athiests that dont wanna piss off society.
> , but I do know that this
> planet isn't big enough, and I believe we will expand somehow, and it
> seems to me that mabe, just mabe, some all powerful force DID make the
> Universe, and it is all for us, because he loves us so much.
And **MAYBE** just maybe that all powerful force was the invisible pink
unicorn that made the planet Earth because it wanted to know what the
meaning of life was.
> Let's not discount God just because of some stories that were handed
> down by word of mouth for thousands of years before ever being put on
> paper, just because some of them resemble unproven claims of what people
> today are seeing.
No. Let's discount God just because of some stories that were handed down
by word of mouth for thousands of years before ever being put on paper dont
resemble any kind of logical thinking whatsoever. Don't believe me? Read
Luke 14:34-35 and tell me just what the hell that little story is all
about. That and the fact that there is a whole lot of shit in the bible
which clashes with other things in it. Plus we have God telling people to
kill all their enemies, their children, their dogs... but keep their
virgins (Numbers 31:17-18) and then we have Jesus saying stuff like "If any
man come to me, and hot not his father and mother, and wife, and children,
and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my
disciple." (Luke 14:26) Then we have religious fanatics claiming that this
is the work of God. We have people that believe all this useless dribble
and some that claim that it describes aliens. Oh please!
>
>
> I have seen a UFO, and it resembled nothing that I have ever read in teh
> bible. I don't know. It may have been an alien space craft,
... it might have been that dope you were smoking at the time...
> but consider. This planet is amazing. The Northern Lights have been
> mistaken
> for UFO's many times. As have Heat Waves, and experimental air planes,
> and shooting stars, and sattelites from our own planet which are moving
> to a different orbit or are falling to earth. With all the bizzarre
> things we know about this planet, most specifically, the strange
> properties of water, is it hard to believe that some of Earth's
> properties can cause us to see strange sights?
So what's your point? You saw something in the sky that you're not sure
of? It might've been an alien. Or it might've been a secret government
airplane. Then of course there might be a God. And there might not. Jeez
are you ever gonna quit riding the fence and make up your mind regarding
something? ANYTHING??
> Before we jump to conclusions, we should look at all the facts!
Well thank you. You have prooved nothing, said basically nothing other than
well I can't be sure of anything so dont listen to me I'm stupid.
Hex
Tyler Zeck <tz...@home.com> wrote in article
<35C0011B...@home.com>...
> .... the events that must have occured, in the order they must
> have occured in for the world to have even been formed to begin with are
> completely too unprobable to have happened by chance. Even the greatest
> aethist and scientists are baffled by it. The odds against our planet
> even being able to support life are astronomically high!
They cannot be that unprobable! Cabon and Oxygen are not the only to
chemicals that sustain life. The "Ocean Chimney" life they are now
studying here on earth is just a small example of the possibilities of life
in the universe.
A moment of clarity on the intricate fabric of the universe is even still
just a glimpse at multiple dimensions of infinity that are "out there."
The best visual model I've seen to illustrate this would be that 10 second
pan-out at the end of the movie MIB. (btw that was quite an interesting way
to explain the NYC street culture :)"
In all probability we are still pretty low on the evolutionary chain.
> ...even if another planet somewhere in the Galaxay just happened to have
> the exact same fluke as earth did in being able to support life or even
> better, develop life, the odds of intelligent life forming on that
> planet are even more astronomical than the formation of the planet.
Even other planets with atmospheric similarities to earth are not unlikely
given what I said before..
> The fact that humans are intelligant is amazing.
amazing yes .... but everything human eyes can comprehend can be amazing!
> Before we jump to conclusions, we should look at all the facts!
Mr. President in the dictionary under redundant...it says "see redundant"
Well thats my 2 cents... Is the piggy bank full yet or what?
- Hex -
john henry gaston
joe @ kf4cvf hope to hear from you soon.
john henry gaston
Simon Mellor
Tyler Zeck wrote:
> I'm not trying to discredit what any of you are saying. What is being
> discussed here is an idea that I myself have entertained. But we have to
> look at more. Whether Aliens have influenced Earth or not, be it in the
> bible or not, the events that must have occured, in the order they must
> have occured in for the world to have even been formed to begin with are
> completely too unprobable to have happened by chance. Even the greatest
> aethist and scientists are baffled by it.* The odds against our planet *No
> they`re not!
> even being able to support life are astronomically high!
>
> One large arguament FOR the existence of aliens is that the galaxy is
> too large for us to be alone. This is an unsubstantial argument because
> even if another planet somewhere in the Galaxay just happened to have
> the exact same fluke as earth did in being able to support life or even
> better, develop life, the odds of intelligent life forming on that
> planet are even more astronomical than the formation of the planet. The
> fact that humans are intelligant is amazing.
> * The formulae I`ve seen show that it is extremely likely that there is
> life on
> other planets and that some of that life will have intellegence.
> Instead of seeing the galaxy as being too large for only us to exist,
> mabe we should consider that this planet is too small for us to stay on.
> Now I'm not certain if I believe in God* or not, but I do know that this
> (I think you do see below*)
> planet isn't big enough, and I believe we will expand somehow, and it
> seems to me that mabe, just mabe, some all powerful force DID make the
> Universe, and it is all for us, because he loves us so much.*
>
Oh for f***s sake WHY does somebody have to love us so much for everything
to make sense?Why do you feel the need to be made and loved etc, etc
Sheesh!
All this romanticism just makes me want to throw up.
There was a big bang ,it all exploded ,we evolved on a bit of it we live die
, all the stuff stops flying out
and comes back in again squashes into a tiny ball goes bang and it all
happens over again.
> Let's not discount God just because of some stories that were handed
> down by word of mouth for thousands of years before ever being put on
> paper, just because some of them resemble unproven claims of what people
> today are seeing.
>
> I have seen a UFO, and it resembled nothing that I have ever read in teh
> bible. I don't know. It may have been an alien space craft, but
> consider. This planet is amazing. The Northern Lights have been mistaken
> for UFO's many times. As have Heat Waves, and experimental air planes,
> and shooting stars, and sattelites from our own planet which are moving
> to a different orbit or are falling to earth. With all the bizzarre
> things we know about this planet, most specifically, the strange
> properties of water, is it hard to believe that some of Earth's
> properties can cause us to see strange sights?
>
Mark Hines
In <35C0011B...@home.com> Tyler Zeck <tz...@home.com> writes:
>
>Let's not discount God just because of some stories that were handed
>down by word of mouth for thousands of years before ever being put on
>paper, just because some of them resemble unproven claims of what
people today are seeing.
Immersing myself in study, I realized that there is strong evidence,
even meeting scientific standards, for the existence of God--such
evidence from, for example, mathematics. Anybody can double check the
math. Until recently some people have not had the opportunity to see
and evaluate this evidence. Here is a starting point:
www.ortk.org/gematria.htm
Mark
Aaron LeClair
care to read it, I'll send you a link to the page. I think you might like
it.
Blue Resonant Human
>Immersing myself in study, I realized that there is strong evidence,
>even meeting scientific standards, for the existence of God--such
>evidence from, for example, mathematics. Anybody can double check the
>math. Until recently some people have not had the opportunity to see
>and evaluate this evidence. Here is a starting point:
Wow. Mark Hines and gematria. Who'da thunk it? I'm genuinely
impressed, Mark (but please check your link at the bottom of your page
as it's busted.)
FWIW, Crowley's mentor Allan Bennett did a similar gematric analysis
of the book of Genesis which can be found at:
http://www.itlink.se/oto/libers/lib2261.html
...including some of the sacred geometries involved.
That you've made your way through the labyrinth of UFOlogy to this
point pleases us immensely, for in a not too dissimilar fashion, it
was Dr. Hynek's alleged remark that "all the secrets of the UFO enigma
lie in theosophy" which initially caused us to unsheath our machetes
and begin blazing trails in this general direction.
Godspeed, my Brother. Wise men still seek Him.
-Brother Blue, B:.B:.
ron...@mailexcite.com
When you type "Roswell" in the BIBLEDECODER program, you will see
"UFO" next to it.....
AMAZING !!!
Explore the Bible yourself for evidence of hidden code in your native
language !
Roving Reporter
with anything in the Bible? And what other surprises did that canny
computer programmer put in there to stir us up? {-;
*ROTFL*
Well, it's been done for years by Jewish people, I guess it's about time
the UFO people started...
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