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John F. Winston

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Dear Folks: I hereby start Thread 30. Everyone
please join in.
John Winston.

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"John F. Winston" wrote:

Thank you I will ! ~~the Budell~~

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Ugly Bob

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Geez, I'm sorry I missed thread 29. Um, Ugly Bob
checking in, over!


John F. Winston

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Subject: Chemtrails In Different Places. (San Francisco) Part 3.
Jan. 2, 2001.

I don't have anything against the Roc-efellers or Mas-ns. There is
even one of the Rock-fellers who is trying to bring out the truth
about UFOs.

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REDDEN: You mentioned the Rock-fellers. You think the Rocke-eller
family is one of the major players in this conspiracy?
HOROWITZ: Oh, absolutely. One of the major players in world genocide,
world population reduction. That's no mystery anymore. I mean, you even
have some mainstream publishing companies, such as St. Mar-in's Press,
writing the most horrific exposes of the Rockef-ller family. You have
Ox-ord University Press, publishing, for example, Christopher
Simp-on's work, called The Science of Coercion, where he proves that
virtually the entire scientific - and particularly health science -
agenda was laid out by the Rockefe-ler family. In the 1920s, the
federal gov-rnment was giving very little money for public health.
Where the huge investment in public health in the United St-tes came
from was the Rockefell-r financial coffers, you know. They were behind
it all. And so, already by the 30s, the early 1930s, who was
responsible for the primary viral research investments, public health
looking at can-er, who created the canc-r industry in the 1920s, was
the Rockefell-rs - all the Rockefelle- money.
And if you didn't go along with that particular money making
population controlling agenda as a health scientist or health
professional you were traditionally demoted, defunded, ostracized. And
then if you kept it up, you were persecuted and then jai-ed. I know
many, many people who've gone through that.
REDDEN: What is the -ockefeller family's motivation? Do they think
they're doing good?
HOROWITZ: You know, to give them the benefit of the doubt, yeah. I
mean, I start the book Emerging Viruses, A-DS and Ebola off with the
famous quote by Solzhenitsyn, "To do e-il, a human being must first
believe that what they are doing is good. It is ideology that gives
d-vil-doing its long-sought justification." And so, to give them the
benefit of the doubt, let's just say they think they're doing good.
They perceive, let's say, even though there's not a great deal of
hard, scientific evidence, there's far more propaganda than really
good analysis of this, that the over-population issue is largely a
myth. And I say largely because there are certainly urban areas of
the world that are quote over-populated unquote.
But when one looks at the misuse of resources, the misuse of the
environment, and you realize who is misusing and abusing that
environment - look at what the oil industry has done, just the
R-ckefeller and royal family oil industry.
Look at who pollutes the atmosphere. Look at who suppresses the
alternative energy resources.
So who is responsible for the degradation of the environment so
that now those over-populated urban areas, they can't even get good
water. They can't get good food. They can't grow things because the
soil's been depleted by the same people who since the 1930s knew
that their misuse of agriculture methods were going to cause a
depletion of the minerals in the soils. So, all of this literally
is mismanaged bio-agenda. And you could argue that all these people
are making vast fortunes off of humanity's suffering. The Roc-efellers
monopolized American medicine in the 1920s. They, along with I.G.
Farbe-, Germany's leading industrial organization, held the monopoly
on the world's chemical and pharmaceutical industries. The
Rock-fellers and I.G. Fa-ben worked together before World War II and
during World War II. For all practical purposes, the Rocke-ellers and
I.G. Far-en were the Third Reich.
So you can say, oh, it's just a figment of my conspiracy theorist's
imagination that says that these people are preparing biologicals in
their labs and transmitting them through their medical products, and
these same people are putting ethylene dibromide in jet fuel, and
everyone is getting upper respiratory infections from the biologicals
and chemicals, and then these same people are making vast fortunes
off all the quote effective antibiotics unquote that they have
against these things. You can just make that argument.
But then, unfortunately, if you're a true researcher, you don't even
stop there. Suddenly you get laid out all of the other more insidious,
more horrifying documentation, such as who also gave rise to Hitler's
racial hygiene program - they're the same people. They funded it. It
was the Rockef-ller family that built and funded the Kaiser Wilhelm
Institute for Ant-ropology, Eugenics and Human Heredity, which was
run by Swiss psychiatrist Ernst Rudin, who was named president of
the worldwide Eugenics Federation in 1932.
Now that's real well articulated in that book published by St.
Martin's by Aarons and Loftus called The Secret War Against the J-ws.
And also another very good book by Little Brown called Martin
Bor-ann: Nazi in Exile. Martin B-rmann, like Hitler, was never found.
It's only come out recently on the History Channel that they admit
it's likely that the carcass that was found in the bunker in Berlin
was not Hitler's. I just saw that the other day on the History
Channel. It was either the History or Discovery Channel, one of the
two. Martin Bo-mann is clearly known to have skipped town and was
never found.
This was Germany's principle money man. He was in charge of the Nazi
wa- chest. The entire German economy was under his direction. He
was the liaison with the ba-ksters, the Roc-efellers. He laundered
half of the remaining Nazi -ar chest through the Ch-se Manhattan
Bank (I think I might have had one of their credit cards in the past).
The Paris branch, which remained open throughout the German occupation
of France. And of course there was congressional testimony as to how
the Rockef-ller family and St-ndard oil were operating and making
fortunes off both sides during World War II.
REDDEN: Who else is involved in this conspiracy?
HOROWITZ: Well, he was personally appointed by President Roo-evelt and
Secretary of W-r Stimson -
REDDEN: And he had his own private pharmaceutical company -
HOROWITZ: And had a very well established private company called the
Merck Pharma-eutical Company. And he and his company received the
lion's share of the Nazi -ar chest.
When Hitler and Martin Bo-mann knew they were going to lose the war,
they invested their treasury in 750 corporations to produce a monopoly
over the world's pharmaceutical and chemical industries. Hitler and
Borm-nn invested heavily in Merck and other pharmaceutical companies.
They not only knew that would be a good way to make money as a future
investment, but they also knew that, given the Holocaust, you can mass
ext-rminate people through chemicals, gasses and pharmaceuticals. You
can take people out untraceably that way.
So that was the target and primary objective for the rise of the
Fourth Reich.
REDDEN: The Fourth Reich?
HOROWITZ: Exactly. That's what's going on today. The Nazis planned for
it, they even had a term for it - "neue Ordnung," which means New
Or-er, New World Ord-r. This today, this New World Orde-, is the rise
of the Fourth Reich. This is precisely what they envisioned and then
carried out.
REDDEN: On a global scale?
HOROWITZ: That's exactly what it is.
REDDEN: And the goal of the Fourth Reich is population control?
HOROWITZ: That, and genocide.
REDDEN: Who are they targeting for genocide?
HOROWITZ: The populations that have traditionally been targeted for
genocide. I have a series of slides taken just weeks ago from the
Denver Airport. There's a capstone, a dedication stone in the main
terminal building of the Denver Airport dedicated to the New World
Airp-rt Commission by the Freem-sons.
And there's a big mural - a huge, beautiful, colorful mural - that
is dedicated to the extinct species. And in the foreground, against the
horrific backdrop of flames and destruction, there are three open
coffins.
REDDEN: This is at the Denver Airport?
HOROWITZ: Yes. In the left hand coffin is a beautiful bl-ck woman
dressed in native African attire representing the Bla-k people of the
world. In the center is a beautiful Native North American woman
representing the In-ians. And in the right, there's a beautiful
blond-haired, likely blue-eyed woman, lying on an American quilt,
clenching a Star of David and a Bi-le with a cross to her chest,
representing the Je-s and the Chr-stians. So those are the people
that are, you know, the agenda is to take them out. And, in fact,
the United St-tes quilt is very significant because the depopulation
agenda put forth by the Rockefe-lers and their friends is
to reduce the United S-ate's population by half, back to 1940's levels.
And in the new book Healing Codes of the Bi-lical Apocalypse we
reprinted the full page advertisement to the world's wealthiest
mi-itary-medicalindustrialists on the Council of For-ign Relations
to reduce the U.S. population which currently stands at 275 million
down to 140 million, or about its size in the 1940s. So that's one
out of every two Americans are targeted to go. And then you're looking
at, why Chr-stians and why -ews? Well again, if absolute power
corrupts absolutely, and now you get into the realm of Sat-nism and
S-tanic and e-il, pure ev-l, of course you would want to take out
the people who hold Go- very close to their heart. And that's
exactly what this woman is doing. She's clutching to her heart the
Star of David and the cross. The G-dly people. The J-ws got Go-'s
first covenant with Abraham, then the Chr-stians got the blood
covenant with Je--s.
REDDEN: Do you see the Ma-ons as part of the conspiracy.
HOROWITZ: Oh yeah, absolutely. That's well proven in the book
"Healing Codes of the Bi-lical Apocalypse."
REDDEN: I think when people think of Mas-ns they think of some small
fraternal lodge, like the Sh-iners or something like that.
HOROWITZ: Right, that's exactly right. And 99.99 percent of Maso-s
have no clue what they're really up to at the highest levels. When
you get to the highest levels, you see, they give you knowledge,
increased knowledge at every higher degree of Freema-on that you
achieve. And it's not until you get beyond the 33rd degree, where
you get the highest indoctrination into what's called the Ancient
Arcana, that's the ancient sacred knowledge - we lay out much of
that in the book Healing Codes of the Bi-lical Apocalypse - and
then we show you, these are the d-vil-doers who are running this
planet. They've been running this planet for centuries.

Part 3.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


Jo Jo

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Jan 3, 2001, 11:00:07 AM1/3/01
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To Humankind;
What a bunch of Hooey. Go tell your Mommy you have been playing on her
computer again. <geeish> Where do these people come from?????

Jo Jo

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Jan 3, 2001, 12:10:15 PM1/3/01
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John Winston:
Do you know about the Rothchilds?
Do you know about the Tri Lateral Commission?

John F. Winston

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Jan 4, 2001, 1:26:06 PM1/4/01
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Subject: Letter From Joseph Cater. Jan. 3, 2001.

This is the third letter I have received from Joe Cater. This
letter had been opened and then resealed before getting to me. I
don't think there was anything missing from it. Here is his letter
to me. He knows that I post these letters.

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Dear John:
Enclosed are the corrections and deletions that need to be made.

I overlooked two important embodiments, Akbar, the greatest ruler
India ever had, and Ernest Shackelton. Shackelton's 1908-1909
Antarctic expedition is by far the most extraordinary case of
leadership and survival in all the annals of exploration. He and his
men were faced with a hopeless situation when his ship broke up in
the antarctic ice, yet, he managed to bring all of his men back to
civilization. Later all of them declared that he is (was) the greatest
leader that ever was, "baring none." Books about it made fascination
reading.

Of all my talents, leadership is perhaps my greatest. After all
as king of the Elders it has been my major role throughout eternity.
Ironically I have never had an opportunity to exercise it as yet
in this life. I have never had any position of authority. This may
very well change in the near future. This planet is just about
beyond redemption and it will take a miracle to save it. I sometimes
wonder if it is worth it. It has often been said that the best way
to test a man is to give him authority.

(JW Here are some of the corrections that Joe made to the text of
my posting his last letter to me.) This was Dec. 1990 rather than
1998. After this UFO sightings almost came to a halt for some (rather
than many) years.
I can indeed carry a tune and have a profound appreciation of
great music. As yet I have had no musical training but I have been
told I am destined to create the greatest music ever heard before this
incarnation is over. I have often felt I would rather be a great
composer than a great scientist.

(JW In regards to my statement of Joe having a certain amount of
education he asked me to say the following. In this Joe gives
some information about himself.)
He has developed a science that explains all things and has done
than could possible be expected of a valid concept. All of this and
may other things are contained in his latest book " The Ultimate
Reality" which is light years ahead of anything else ever written.
Despite all efforts by the power el-te to prevent it from ever seeing
the light of day it was published in 1998. It can be obtained from
Health Research P.O. Box 98, Pomeroy, Wash. 99347 (503) 843-2385,
www.health-researchbooks.com
He has also invented a self sustaining electric generator, that
is the ultimate of simplicity. It could easily be carried in a small
valice and weighs only a few pounds, yet has almost unlimited DC
output. Years ago he gave the specs to two different people who had
the facilities and equipment to build one. They got sensational
results. However vested interest moved in and put the quietus on
their operation. Joe expects to make it available to the public in
the near future and dares the power elit- to try and stop him.

(JW Again he states.)

Maxwell invented a calculus to solve problems the math of his day
couldn't cope with.

I am familiar with more great music than any symphony conductor and
my esthetic sense is superior to that of any musician. After my
scientific work is finished I am supposed to turn to composition
and revolutionize music.
Best regards,
Joe.
P. S.
You should get my new book.
It does contain typos and errors which
I will be corrected in the next printing
as well as some sensational new material.

(JW That's all I have received so far.)

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Never Say Never. Jan. 5, 2001.

It seems that Art Bell had some problems, said that he was going to
quit and would never come back to his radio talk show called "The
Art Bell Show".
It seems now that he solved his problems and he may be coming back
to the show that covers over 400 stations at night. The return is
said to be on Feb. 5th of this year (2001).

If Art decides not to come back and just take it easy then that's
OK with me, in my opinion. If he wants to come back then that's even
better OK with me, in my opinion.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Jan 6, 2001, 4:37:24 PM1/6/01
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Subject: Charlotte's Web. Jan. 6, 2001.

First of all I'm pretty sure the following information is not caused
by Charlotte.

In the last 10 days, since I have started counting, we have had
Chemtrail spraying over Sonora, Calif. for 8 days straight then one
day of no Chemtrails then one more day of spraying. This spraying
is carried on from 8 to 10 hours a day, usually from about sunup to
sundown.

Several weeks ago I was over fishing near Tracy, Calif. during a
time of spraying, when I noticed some strange spiderweb type
substance coming down. This was like something out of Star Trek.
Strands were coming down that had the ends of the web seperated into
even smaller strands. The web was seperated into about 6 parts on
one end. Now I am fully aware of spiderwebs that fly through the
air so that the spiders can reproduce and spread to other areas and
this was not like that.

Two days ago my friend commented on the fact that there were
spiderweb flying in the air during a time of spraying but when asked
about this later this person maintained that it was just plain old
spiderwebs.

Now here is some information about something that has been falling
on a town in Oregon.

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From: S
Subject: Spider webs choke Wallowa County air space in Oregon
From The Wallowa County Chieftain
(JW That is a local newspaper.)
http://www.wallowa.com/
http://www.wallowa.com/chieftain/archives/023/3news/3news.html
By Elane Dickenson of the Chieftain

Wallowa County Extension Agent John Williams examines what appear
to be spider webs under a 20-power bioscope.
http://www.wallowa.com/chieftain/archives/023/3news/news3.jpg
Shortly after 1:30 last Thursday afternoon, the Wallowa County
Chieftain was alerted to a phenomena taking place over the city of
Enterprise at that very minute. The message was that spider web-like
material was falling from the sky, and said to be the product of
"contrails" from three mil-tary jets that had been flying back and
forth in a east-west flight pattern at high altitude at the south end
of the Wallowa Valley above the mountains.
They flew "at least an hour" and one flight pattern was directly
overhead, according to the informant, Steve Doster of Enterprise. He
said stuff like that which was falling from the sky here has been
making people sick all over the country.
Doster, the person who called, suggested that someone with a good
camera come out to shoot some photographs above the street in front
of Ace Hardware, where he and a group of other people were watching
the "webs" fall down.
Though there was no aircraft visible when the requested camera
arrived, and the bright sky made a decent photograph doubtful,
spider-web like material - from thin filaments to thicker masses -
was indeed falling from the sky, hanging up on utility lines and car
antennae. The stuff seemed to be everywhere.
Doster said, according to information he'd read on the Internet,
some of this material had been tested in a health lab and was found
to be a "biological soup" designed to make people ill. He said
theories ranged from the gov-rnment trying to raise the immunity of
residents to the governm-nt trying to reduce world population to
somehow facilitate the establishment of a world or-er.
"I haven't formed any opinions myself, I just wanted people to be
aware that this has been happening," said Doster.
Doster later supplied Internet material, most of it reports published
by Environmental News Service (ENS), as well as Internet links,
talking about the "contrails" coming from mil-tary jets flying in a
grid pattern.
Contrails are condensation trails generated at altitude high enough
for water droplets to freeze in a matter of seconds and not quickly
evaporate.
Unlike normal contrails , which dissipate soon after a jet's
passage, videos show "eery silver jets streaming fat contrails from
their wing tips," according to a ESN release dated Jan. 8, 1999. One
from Jan. 12, 1999, described "globular filaments resembling spider
webs usually falling in clumps or wads ranging from pencil eraser
size to the size of a balled up fist. ... Winds often whip the
cobweb-like material into filaments as long as 50 feet. ... (The)
sticky substance 'melts in your hands' and "adheres to whatever it
touches.'"
According to ENS reports, flu-like illness with symptoms ranging
from bronchial problems and headaches to fever and diarrhea connected
with the contrail/web phenomena, according to the Internet reports,
with some hospitals reporting epidemic conditions.
The contrail patterns have been reportedly been observed in over
40 U.S. cities and in 10 or more countries, according to the reports.
The address to the web page from which most of the material was taken
is http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco/. Most of the reports were written
by William Thomas, who can be described as a right-wing environmental
journalist. (JW Probably Mr. Thomas will get a laugh out of that
explanation of himself.)
Before reading this material - which cautioned against handling the
stuff because of illness associated with it - the Chieftain retrieved
a sample of the stuff lying on the ground. As of press time the
reporter handling the web-like material had not gotten sick.
However, Doster said Tuesday this week that he was suffering from
an "upper respiratory infection and fever, typical flu symptoms,"
while two of the people who'd been watching the webs with him had
light headaches that night and one woman was suffering from severe
diarrhea. "Of course it could be coincidental," he noted.
A call to Wallowa Memorial Hospital Tuesday afternoon uncovered
the fact that there were then five patients in the hospital, "a
little lower than normal," said a spokesman. When told about the
web-like material that had fallen that is said to possibly make
people sick, he commented, " As far as I know, nobody has even
heard of that around here."
A trip Friday morning (when there was no longer webs falling from
the sky) to the Wallowa County Extension Office to investigate the
web stuff was inconclusive. The filaments, by this time mostly a
sticky white glob, were compared under a 20-power bioscope with a
normal spider web. The two samples were very similar, though it
did appear that the material that had fallen out of the sky was
somewhat coarser than what was known for sure to be a spider web.
A call was placed by Wallowa County Extension Agent John Williams
to Oregon State University to consult an entomologist. Insect
identification specialist Lynn Royce said that this time of year
spiders do produce a large amount of spider web material to send
their spiderlings "ballooning"off into the world. She said they
could seem to be coming from high in the sky.
She admitted, however, that usually the spider webs would not
fall all at once, in one day, and the phenomenon described - with
the spider web material falling heavily at once did sound to be
atypical. "I would expect to see spiderlings (on the webs) ... and
not all at once," Royce commented.
An insect wing - but no spiderlings - had been found on the material
under scrutiny, but then it had been retrieved from the ground.
Local rancher Pat Wortman happened to be coming into the Extension
Office at the time of the inconclusive investigation. When he heard
about it, he had his own theories: "They are spider webs. It happens
every year on an annual basis, you see them everywhere. ... Chief
Joseph probably saw them, and wondered if they were coming from
airplanes or motorcycles."
Wortman added one more theory, "It was probably caused by the hot
air from the presidential debates."
Whether Wallowa County was the victim of a somewhat mysterious
phenomena that has been reported - or rather non-reported by most
major news outlets - around the country, or whether there was just
an unusually heavy drop of spider webs last Thursday may never be
known.
Copyright 2000 Wallowa County Chieftain

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Different Types Of Space People. Part 3 of 3. Jan. 7, 2001.

This part talks about the Reptilians. It is scary, and may cause
your nightmares to have nightmares.

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Getting http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicrep.html
COSMIC REPTILES

WHAT DO THEY LOOK LIKE?

These physical descriptions are compiled from a large database on
reptilian-human contacts. In some cases, the experiencer may recall
only one physical characteristic of the nonhuman entity that was
encountered. On the other hand, other people have vivid memories of
their encounter and are able to provide detailed reports of the
reptilian beings anatomy. The following is a compilation of these
eyewitness descriptions for your review.
Generally speaking, there are three basic reptilian physical types.
The Reptoid (reptilian-humanoid crossbreeds), the various
reptilian-grey crossbreed types and the hierarchial reptilian
overlords called the Draco (winged reptilian beings). Although the
reptilian being species are divided into three basic types, there are
physical features that are shared by almost all. These commonalties
will be covered under the description of the Reptoid beings.

REPTOIDS

Reptilian beings range from five and a half to nine feet in height.
They have lean, firm bodies with powerful arms and legs. They have
long arms with three fairly long fingers and an opposable thumb. Their
feet have three toes and one recessed fourth toe that is toward the
back side of their ankle. The claws of their hands and feet are short
and blunt. They do not have te-ts on their upper torso and they do not
have a navel.
They have scaled skin that is usually greenish-brown in color. Some
also have coffee colored scales that have dark green colored rims. The
scales (or scutes) on their backs, thighs and upper arms are
large.
Their hands, abdomen and face, are covered with smaller scales,
allowing more flexibility. They have wide lipless mouths which contain
differentiated types of teeth, including canines (fangs.)
They have either large black eyes with vertical slit pupils or eyes
that white with flame colored vertical slit pupils.
Their heads are slightly conical in shape and have two bony ridges
riding from their brow, across their back sloping skull, toward the
back of their head.
Throughout history, these bony ridges have been misidentified as
horns.
There appears to be no bridge between their eyes. The nasal openings
are at the end of a small, flattened nose and are described as two
small slits that slant upwards in a V formation. Some experiencers
have reported seeing small openings on the sides of their heads, but
have noted that there is no fleshy part extending from this area.
Reptilian beings have no body or facial hair. Occasionally,
experiencers will have observed reptilian beings with thin, fleshy
spines under their chins. From a distance, this physical feature is
often misidentified as hair. (Even today, one can find lizards with
these same fleshy spines under their chins. They are called Bearded
Lizards.)
Reptilian beings are both tailed and tailless. The tails are
differentiated in size and are held off the ground. Their posterior
can be like either that of a human, with a vertical slit shielding an
excretory orifice or it can be a rounded muscular area extending from
the base of the spine to the upper thigh region. Experiencers have
reported seeing reptilian beings with a combination of these posterior
configurations.
Their genitalia are concealed within a vertical slit located at
the base of the torso. In the case of women who claim to have
experienced s-xual encounters with reptoids, the male reptilian beings
are described as having a well endowed pen-s that is lacking a soft
sacked scr-tum. Where the scro-um sack is located on a human, the
reptilian male, apparently, has a firm, muscular bulge leading from the
base of the peni- to the underside of the torso.

DRACO

The Draco reptilian beings are considered the royal elitists of the
reptilian hierarchy. They are not seen as often as other reptilian
Aliens. They are similar in appearance to the Reptoid beings, yet they
do have distinct physical differences.
Dracos have wings and Reptoids do not have wings.
.....
In several contacts, people have seen the reptilian beings wearing a
cape draped over their shoulders and down their backs. These
observations can explain one of two scenarios: a) These capes may be
a piece of clothing specifically designed for covering the Draco
wings; or b) As there have also been reptilian contacts in which, after
the wings have been seen to extend and then retract, people have said
that the retracted wings took on the look of a cape-like material
which flowed down the back of the Draco.
Another striking physical attribute that some of the Draco have are
horns. These are not the boney ridges the reptoids have that are
misidentified as horns, but they are actual horny protuberances
that develop midway between the brow and the top of the skull. The
horns are conical in shape and blunt at the tips. (It has been
speculated that they use their horns as conical resonators.)
The Draco appear to have a much more athletic build than the other
reptilian beings. This physical trait may be due to the physical
demands required to fly with the use of their wings. Their upper
torsos are extremely lean and their neck muscles splay out from the
base of their jaw to their shoulder blades.
In general, the Draco are usually seven to twelve feet tall and their
hierarchy is dependant on their skin color. The highest order of
the Draco caste is the wh-te skinned Draco beings. Some experiencers
have reported seeing whi-e skinned Draco beings interacting with the
greenish-brown skinned Draco, Reptoids and various grey types. In
these cases, all other nonhuman entities, including other Draco,
greys and Reptoids, treat the w-ite skinned (albino?) Draco as if
they were their kings or generals.

REPTILIAN-GREY CROSSBREEDS

In addition to the Draco and Reptoid beings, there are many other
various reptilian physical types that have been encountered through
the ages.
Some are quite similar to the greys. They are four to four and a
half feet in height. They have oversized craniums, large black eyes
with vertical slit pupils, thin torsos, arms and legs. There have been
reports of these creatures as having either three fingers with a
fourth opposable or only three long fingers and no opposable fourth.
They have been seen to have short claws and in some cases, no claws at
all. Their feet are usually covered by the material of their suite,
but some experiencers have described their feet as short and stubby,
with no toes.
Amidst the various reptilian-grey types, there is also a species
that has greenish-tan skin, large almond-shaped eyes that are golden
in color with a dark, metallic green vertical slit pupil. They share
the same basic physical construct as a grey entity and are usually
seen wearing a one piece suite that is the same color as their
skin.
Recent reports of a creature called the Chupacabra (a goat-Sucker)
have surfaced in Puerto Rico, Mexico, Florida and the Pacific
Northwest. (Their name is derived from their nocturnal activity
of sucking blood from domesticated livestock such as goats.) People,
who claimed to have seen these creatures, describe them as being four
to five feet tall, having large slanted red eyes, fine grey fur with
dark spots, no visible ears, lipless mouths and small holes as a
nasal openings. Just like some of the dinosaurs of the Jurassic
Period, these vampires of the night are reported to have spine-like
appendages running from the top of their head down to the bottom of
their backbone. The spines are said to be phosphorescent and multi
colored.
There have been reports that these creatures also have wings or
cape-like materials draped over their shoulders.

SUMMATION

Although the command structure of the reptilian inner terrestrial
species consists of the Draco - Reptoid - Reptilian/Grey varieties,
many other physical types also have reptilian physical characteristics
in their anatomy, but belong in a class of their own. The physical
differences between one individual reptilian being and another is
as varied in the reptilian race as they are in the human race. Just
as there are tall and short humans, so must there also be tall and
short reptilian beings. Just as there are people with various skin
colors, there are probably reptilian beings with varied skin colors.

Part 3 of 3.

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What about shape shifters? Humans that
people have witnessed can shift into a reptilian then back into human.

John F. Winston

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Subject: Chri-tmas, Bu-h And Vegetarianism. Jan. 8, 2001.

As I was singing the chorus of "All I Want For Christmas Is My
Two Front Teeth", I was pleased to see that someone had send me
one of those "Big Mouth Billy Bass". When I'm wondering whether
or not to go fishing, he sings to me, "Take Me To The River." When
I'm visiting over in Hawaii and get a little sad, he sings, Don't
Worry Be Happy."

Now let me state for sure that I am one of the biggest B-sh bashers
that ever existed. I been known to say all sorts of bad things
about him but here is something a little different.

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From: S

Subject: President-Elect Bus- Leads Teenager to Ch-ist

The following is from Dennis Lake of the Coalition of Chu-ches
prison ministry at Prestonwood Ba-tist Ch-rch, Plano, Texas:
There is a man in our church, Jeff Benoit, who has a friend who
served on President Elect B-sh's campaign in Austin, and she
called him to tell this story.
Last week, Gov. Bu-h appeared at the thank-you banquet for his
campaign staff, and was going table to table to shake hands with
the 1000+ campaign volunteers. He got to one lady, who by a brief
comment she made, indicated she was a Ch-istian. She was with her
16-year-old son. Gov. -ush asked him if he was a believer, too. He
said he didn't think so.
Gov. Bu-h then asked, "Do you mind if I tell you how I came to know
Chr-st as my Savior?"
The boy agreed, and Gov. B-sh pulled up a chair and witnessed to
him for 30 minutes, and led him in the sinners prayer!! Jeff's
friend was so choked up, she could hardly tell the story through
tears.
How glorious to know that our new president is a man that doesn't
feel the po-itical pressure to glad-hand 1000 people, but would
take 30 minutes of his precious time to lead a teenager to Ch-ist.

........

It all reminds me how things used to be in a small town in Texas. It
seems that people would get a little apathetic and all of a sudden look
around to find that their town was getting overrun by crime. They
would look around to see what was wrong and figure out that it was
the sherif's fault. They needed a new sherif, so they looked around
for a new one. Sure enough they found a real good one, got behind
him and cleaned up the town.
The odd thing about this is that new sherif was not much different
than the sherif they had before.

....

Quite a while ago my friend and I found out that a 13 year old young
lady that we knew had turned vegetarian. She was a real vegetarian,
no meat, chicken, fish or anything. My friend said, "That girl's going
to get sick and maybe die of malnutrition." I then said, "Oh, she'll
be OK and get along just fine." Now that about a year has passed we
saw her again, and guess what? She is beautiful beyond description,
too marvelous for words, and full of energy. When I offered to give
her some fake bacon her mother said, "She won't eat anything that
even resembles meat. When she was asked how she gets her protein she
said, "I eat a lot of beans."

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


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Subject: Bad News. Jan. 9, 2001.

I have been sent the following news lately that is very bad news.
Here is hoping that none of it is true. I hope that all of my
friends can help out in making the following things not happen.
We can change the future if we stick together. One of the best
ways to change the future is to change ourselves. Some of this
material is channeled, most of it is religious and some would say
it dooms day information but then nobody is perfect.

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From: H
Subject: Charlotte's Web.

THANK YOU, beloved John.
Here is an other one in that direction:

A MESSAGE FOR YOU

'Ru-sian invasion of the US- imminent!"

Beloved and Cherished Brothers and Sisters through our
Lord Je--s Ch-ist, my heart is heavy as I come to tell
what pains me through and through to write. I pr-y
that you read the following messages from our Father
in H-aven with the utmost care and discernment and
that you go into great pr-yer about what our Father in
H-aven is telling in the following messages. Many
times, I have gone back to Him in pra-er, hoping that
He would give me a different message, or that there
would be some ray of hope that what He has revealed
might change. But, I am sorry to say that He continues
to speak the same things to me day after day, until I
have finally come to understand that we have reached a
point in time, from which there will be no turning
back.
In the last message, our Father warned George W. Bu-h
that He would preserve his life if he would come back
and serve Him in truth, honor and spirit. But, if B-sh
will not do so, our Father warned that George W. Bus-
will d-e by the sword. I can tell you without
reservation that George W. Bus- has a very dark cloud
around him and this dark cloud is the result of dark
and e-il works of his own, as well as ev-l works,
which have come to bear on him through family and
generation curses. He needs to be freed, to be
delivered, but he will not be freed of these curses so
long as he continues on with the evi- of his
forefathers. Is George B-sh continuing on in the
traditions of his father and his father before him? We
are certainly seeing members of the same old crowd.
How does the saying go? "The limb does not fall far
from the tree." Beloved Ones, another round of -ush
Sr. is not going to work. No longer is our Father in
H-aven going to continue to allow this utter darkness
and rebellion to rule over this land and be paraded
over the people as acceptable. The wicked are going to
fall in their rebellion. The New World O-der is
falling even as it is rising; for it will not work in
the end; and we all know this.
Read the following messages and take them to heart;
for these messages are your warnings!

FIRST MESSAGE FROM OUR FATHER IN HE-VEN

"My Precious Child, I am your Father in He-ven, - the
Great I AM that I AM, the River, which courses all and
leaves out none, the Net, which captures and squeezes
and closes, then sets free. I have created all and all
creation is My Pearl. I give life. I create it and I
take it again. All the cycles I set in motion and I
break them as well.
"Now, My Child, let us look at this Earth cycle, this
one, which ends near this date. It is a culmination of
a great work over ages and this cycle, this circle now
comes to and end. No amount of pr-yer or fasting will
stop the chain of events, which have been set in
motion. For, I set them into motion and I stop this
motion.
"Of the chain, be aware of the following. The U-A is
going to be invaded and devastated by w-r, pestilence
and famine. This is set in stone. (JW Just remember what
the baseball player said, "It ain't over till its' over.)
This will happen and it will happen sooner, rather than later.
My Child, look at the page before you and read the date. I
have spoken it to you previous. What do you see?"
"I see the date of March 31, 2001."
"And, what to do you make of it?"
"As I understand, this country shall be invaded by
Ru-sia, Ch-na and a large military alliance by the
31st of March of 2001."
"And, what did I show you in previous visions?"
"Father, you showed me some Rus-ian generals sitting
around a table with various maps, which depicted
invasion routes and various military plans, and these
plans were highly organized and well laid out. At this
table, these generals were discussing the invasion of
this country. Then, you took me back a second time to
witness an additional meeting. And, then a third time,
you also took me back into this very room to witness a
third meeting. In the subsequent meetings, I could see
that several generals were dissenting as to the plans
or to the timing of these plans for this invasion. I
sensed that they did not want to follow through with
this invasion, which has been laid out, at this time.
But, the leading general was fierce. He was loud and
angry. He pounded his fists on the table and stamped
his feet and bellowed furiously at those, who sat
timidly, and seemingly in fear. Suddenly, three chairs
fell backwards with the occupants in them and at that
instant, I felt that these three would be taken out or
removed in some way. In the last meeting, I saw Putin
appear; and I could see that Putin and this fierce
general both had fiery serpent spirits in them. Then,
You handed me a very large spike. You told me to drive
this spike into the middle of this table and this is
what I did."
"My Child, do you understand what you have seen?"
"My Father, I understand some, but not all."
"My Child, you have seen the Ru-sian leaders planning
the final stages of the invasion of the US-. They are
dotting their i's and crossing their t's, all in
preparation for the destruction of the -SA; and Bill
Cli--on is in on every detail. He knows it all as he
has helped lay the groundwork within the U-A."
"And, also, My Father, I saw a date of February 15,
2001, which they had marked as the target date."
"My Child, what you have seen is all true; but they
will lag behind on this date; all to make the world
think that they have changed their minds. But, they
have not changed their minds. At this moment, the -SA
is surrounded, save for Canada. My Child, Canada will
be attacked along with the U-A so that you do not have
help coming to you from them. My Little One, this will
be no puny invasion! It will be a full-scale frontal
assault and the US- will lie in smoking ruins,
devastated by nucl-ar contamination, full of carnage,
death, destruction and waste. You will not rise again
and they will make sure of this. My Child, what more
do you have questions about?"
"My Father, what more shall I tell the people?"
"My Child, for many, many years, I have warned through
the mouths of My prophets; and few have heard! The
pride and arrogance among those in the many chu-ches,
combined with their pompous and empty services,
disgust and sicken me! I am taking them down! I am
taking them out! My judgment is falling swiftly on the
proud and arrogant; and I will no longer tolerate what
I have tolerated in the past! The proud and the
arrogant are going to pe-ish and they are going to
perish sooner, rather than later. My Child, it is one
thing to lose one's body and still another to lost
one's soul! The time of the harvest is now and the
reaping is going on!
"We shall close on this message for now" -
"My Father, I have a question about the earthquakes,
which our Lord showed. I know that some have come to
pass and some have not."
"My Child, all will come to pass and this will take
place very soon, as you will see. I am a merciful G-d,
but My judgement and wrath fall on the rebellious, the
proud, and the haughty in My House. I am your Father
in He-ven. Type this message; for another will follow."
As witnessed, dictated and recorded this 1st day of
January, 2001,
Linda Newkirk

SECOND MESSAGE FROM OUR FATHER IN HE-VEN

"My Child, I bring you back a second time today for
the second message, which will go on the website.
These things, which I say to you will be discarded by
the masses. They will be laughed at; and some will
say, "Well, she was wrong in '98." But, these, who are
full of pride and arrogance will perish. My Child, as
you know, you were not wrong in what you saw in '98;
for indeed there was wa- planned at that time. And,
Bill C--nton was in the midst of this as well. If he
could not have won his stay in office through br-bery,
co-rcion and fo-ce, he would have plowed through with
this -ar, the very w-r, which was revealed to you over
and over. My Child, this was no accident that you were
shown this unfolding wa-; but a warning to the people
to be aware of what was coming, of what was in fact
being planned.
" And, now, My Child, the -SA is at -ar's door again;
and some will take heed and be warned, but most will
laugh and scoff. Away with the laughers and away with
the scoffers; for you are fodder for the cannons! You
are straw, which will be burned and trodden to be no
more!
"I am calling Mine out! If you hear My warning, await
My guidance in your life! If I say to you, "Go left,"
you had better not go right, or you may perish with
the chaff! It is time for Mine to be in tune with My
Spirit, more than ever! For, it you choose to strike
out on your own and to go your own way, you lose! If
you listen to My guidance and follow My warnings, you
will not perish, neither in this life, nor in the
next.
"Listen to Me when I say, "Enough is enough!" The -SA
and other w-ore countries have come to the end of a
long and wide road of rebellion. The rebellious will
peri-h, but I shall lead Mine to glorious places and
beauties heretofore unknown. It is not a time to be
fickle or to waver in one's faith! It is time to be
steadfast and faithful, with hearts, which are pure
and true; for you will be tried and tested in the most
severe ways!
"Are you true? Are you pure of heart? Or, are you full
of anger, pride and rebellion? The blo-d of the Lamb
will wash you and cleanse you, but do you know how
fil-hy you really are?
"My Child, you have a question as to why I had you
drive the spike into the table at the Kremlin."
"Yes, My Father, I do have such a question."
"And, you have wondered why I have had you go in the
Spirit and drive spikes into other places?"
"Yes, My Father, I have wondered why."
"My Child, when you drove those spikes, you planted My
will into the very ground, into the Earth, at these
various locations."
"Then, My Father, it is Your will that Ch-na have the
Panama Canal and the Spratley Islands and that Rus-ia
have a trekked path into Iraq, Iran and the Mideast,
among others things.."
"My Child, they carry out My will and they know it
not. I, alone, have allowed C-ina to be raised up; and
I alone, have allowed Russ-a to prepare a noose to
place around the neck of the -SA. For, as I have said
to you, it is the end of a cycle. It is the end of an
age; and all must fall. Those, who want what I have to
offer through My Son, which is salvation and eternal
life, will make a solid choice. Those, who waver, who
shift from side to side, will be left behind. I will
bend no one's arm and twist it to make one want what I
have. But, I tell you now that a goodly number will
turn back to Me when they have no place to live, no
food for the table and no job. When the mark is
issued, many will run headlong to take, it, but My
Faithful Ones will not; and in the end, they will
receive their heavenly bounty.
"Yes, My Child, the harvest is great, but those, who
are worthy to harvest are few. All of My Faithful have
suffered greatly, but one day I shall wipe your tears;
and you shall not weep again because of hardships of
this world. I shall provide your every need and you
shall be burden free.

Part 1.

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Part 2 of 2.

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"To My Faithful, I say thus: I have brought you along
in faith and I have nourished you in truth, that you
might be prepared for these very difficult times. I
have molded you and shaped you through adversity that
you would not break beneath the great trials, which
you face. I have carved you and I have shaped you to
withstand strong headwinds and mighty tides.
Therefore, I say to Mine, "Do not fear what lies
ahead!" I go before you, behind you, around you, above
and beneath you; and it is My delight to send ar-ies
of Mine angels to protect you!. But, I warn you, Take
not the ways of the rebellious! Do not partake of
their fruits! Abide by My commands and walk humbly,
lest you fall to pride and arrogance! A deep darkness
is upon this world, the likes of which you cannot
imagine, but My hand will carry you safely from place
to place; and I will provide for you until I say, It
is time!'"
"My Beloved Ones, many of you are wounded by the great
trials, which you have endured; but in the end I shall
heal all wounds and scars! Keep the faith and stay on
the High Road; for time grows short. Yes, you will
grow weary; but I shall restore you and renew you!
"To My Faithful, I say: ' Seek out others, who are
also faithful! Love one another! Walk the Straight
walk, that your trials, when shared, might not be so
great! Be loyal to one another; and be faithful to Me
and to My Son. Fret not, but rejoice; for soon your
trials upon this Earth will be over!' I am your Father
in Hea-en."


As witnessed, dictated and recorded this 1st day of
January, 2001,
Linda Newkirk

THIRD MESSAGE FROM OUR FATHER IN H-AVEN

"My Precious One, I am your Father in H-aven. You are
back again today, My Child, asking, begging for
further confirmation of this w-r, as truly, My Little
One, you want of make sure of what you have been told.
My Child, I know that at times you doubt your own
self. You doubt what you see; for you fear you own
humanness. But, I say to you thus: The US- is going to
be invaded! I have given you the outside parameters of
time. You have written the same. I warn you ahead of
time, but few will believe; and even some of the
faithful will shock you by their placid attitudes; for
they have heard of this impending -ar for so long that
they are now asleep to it. They have a 'So what!'
attitude. They have a 'Let's wait and see attitude.'
They do not believe! The de-ons have hold of their
senses and they are asleep! But, I tell you again, My
Child, that this wa- will be! It will not be stopped!
The end of a cycle has come and grave changes are at
hand. Do not be deceived into thinking that all is
well. The signs are everywhere! Look about you! Wake
up! For, you will see that the US- has been prepped
like a patient before an operation! The U-A has been
stripped and gu-ted and made ready for the feast! The
eight Cli--on years, plus the four Bu-h years have
robbed the -SA and paralyzed its mil-tary. Those in
power are going to have their New World O-der at all
costs! It is going to happen in full scale! Be warned
and get spiritually prepared; for many are about to
exit the Earth. Let this warning be accepted by those,
who will see and hear. These are not words given for
naught; but words, which will bear fruit. I am your
Father in He-ven."
As witnessed, dictated and recorded this 2nd day of
January, 2001,
Linda Newkirk

Cherished and Beloved, Our Lord and -od sees and knows
hearts and He knows whether we put our faith and trust
in Him or in things of the world. He is not deceived
by fancy pr-yers and big beautiful ed-fices. He wants
our hearts. He wants our love and respect. He wants to
know that we truly love Him and that we are striving
to do His will. We cannot deceive Him in any way. He
is truth; and we must strive to live truth and to be
truth, or our souls becomes dotted with shades of gray
and bl-ck.
Remember that our Lord is coming back for a ch-rch,
which is pure of heart. All have whi-e robes. They
have all been purified through great trials and
adversity; and they all love truth. There are no
shades of gray, or b-ack -- only w-ite. When our Lord
Je--s comes to take His Faithful home, the liars will
not be there! The schemers and the manipulators will
be left behind! The pious and the rebellious will not
get into the presence of Go-! The wh-remongers, the
for-icators, the dr-nks and do-ers will tumble into
darkness along with the ido-aters and the workers of
wi-chcraft. The angry, the loud and aggressive, and
the cold and unforgiving, will not be among the meek
and humble!
Beloved, we had all better be doing a lot of soul
searching! We all had better be spending a lot of time
in deep pr-yer and repentance, harshly judging
ourselves, while there is still time! Every thing we
have ever done is recorded in H-aven, the good along
with the bad and the indifferent. When we leave the
physical, we are going to see our very life replayed
before us! Every malicious word is going to parade
before us, along with every kind and good deed. Some
of us will weep mightily for the things we have done
and said, which hurt others; and others of us will
weep for things, which we could have done to help, but
did not. We are going to see how we could have made a
difference, but looked the other way! But, if our Lord
and -od has forgiven our sin and rebellion, it is
remembered no more. These rebellious acts, for which
we have been forgiven, are not paraded before us! When
our s-ns are forgiven us, they are truly remembered no
more! Oh, what a wonderful Lord and G-d we have! We
are so very loved! What blessings are in store for the
faithful! Beloved, we must keep our eyes on our Lord
Jes-- and wean ourselves from the traps of this world;
for all that is of this world is but folly!
From the depths of my heart, I thank those of you, who
took it upon yourselves to send out the last message
about repentance to the masses. "Father in Hea-en, I
ask you to look upon the works of these few, who have
been faithful and to bless them mightily for their
works. I ask you go guide them in all things, Father,
and to protect them, that they know the Way,
regardless of the difficulties, which they face.
Continue to direct them, Precious Father; for the
harvest is great and the reapers are so very few."
Cherished Brothers and Sisters, I am pr-ying for a
miracle for you in your greatest time of need! I am
asking our Lord J--us and Father in He-ven to bless
and anoint pr-yer handkerchiefs, that the Faithful may
have these blessings and anointings in these perilous
times. These handkerchiefs are as a gift!
Write to:
Linda Newkirk
P.O, Box 17277
North Little Rock, AR USA 72117
Or, e-mail through the miracles page at
http://www.prophecies.org

More Reports Of Chi-ese And Cu-an Mi-itary On US- Me-ican Border
From Rayelan <ray...@mindspring.com>
The Rumor Mill News Forum
http://www.rumormillnews.com

"I DID IT FOR THE BR-WN SIDE"

In Response To BORDER - CHI-ESE SOLDIERS DRESSED LIKE MEXIC-NS?
(rmagent11)
In 1996, Rumor Mill News Sources first told us about the Aztlan
Liberation Ar-y. In October of 1996, in San Diego, CA, a Mar-ne
Sergeant was convicted of m-rder for k-lling his Lieutenant.
Immediately after ki-ling his Lieutenant, Sergeant Quintanilla made
this shocking statement "I did it for the brotherhood and the
bro-n side. We have a hit list."

From Rumor Mill News, Print Edition, November 1996
Marine Sergeant Guilty of Kil-ing Officer Los Angeles Times Story

SAN DIEGO - A M-rine Corps sergeant was convicted yesterday of
mu-dering one officer and attempting to murd-r another in a March
shooting at Camp Pendleton, crimes for which he could receive the
death penalty.

Sergeant Jessie A. Quintanilla, an eight-year veteran, was
convicted by a mi-itary court of the premeditated m-rder of
Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Quadron 39, and the attempted mu-der of
Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Heffner, the squadron's commanding
officer.

Prosecuters alleged that the 29 year old supply sergeant, a
native of Guam, had come under the influence of a street-gang
culture that convinced him that his career problems were the
result of discrimination.

Quintanilla had been denied a favored asssignment as a recruiter
in the months before the ki-lings. Also, Kidd, 40, had "counseled"
him for being a straggler during a training run.

In the minutes after the March 5 sh-oting Quintanilla told other
Marines, "I did it for the brotherhood and the brow- side. We have
a hit list." He added, "I'm from the streets and these are my
colors. I used to be Sergeant Quintanilla, but now I'm Q."

Quintanilla's defense attorney argues that Quintanilla is an
alcoholoic and was suffering from an alcoholic-induced psychotic
disorder that led him to believe officers were biased against him
because of his ethic background. He was also suffering financial
and marital problems.

The jury consisted of seven officers and five personnel. The same
panel will meet Monday to decide on punishment.

To invoke the death penalty the jury must be unanimous. A lesser
penatly needs only a two-thirds majority. [End of LA Times article]

RMNews Comment ( Also from the November 1996 Edition)

What's Going on Here?

An Agent Provocuter? A Mind controlled Sleeper? A soldier in the
Aztlan Brigade of the ALA? Is this a gov-rnment mind controlled
sleeper who "went off" prematurely? Or do we have one of the "Aztlan
Liberators" of the Aztlan Liberation Ar-y who is trying to liberate
the Mar-ne corps from its wh-te officers.

RMNews has already told you many times that the ALA, the Aztlan
Liberation Army, is already here in America just waiting for their
marching orders. This article proves that they are not just in the
United St-tes, they are in the United Stat-s Mil-tary! _____

In March of 2000, RMNews wrote the following.

The Aztlan Liberation Army is a Co-munist A-my funded by the
Co-munist Ch-nese and Cu-a.

They are trained in Mex-co by Cu-ans and Ch-nese, with a few
expatriot Rus-ians and Sandenistas thrown in for flavor.

Their purpose is to declare wa- on the United Sta-es of America and
take back the lands that the United Stat-s stole from Me-ico in 1848.

The Aztlan Liberation Army has millions of sympathetic supporters
and/or soldiers in the United S-ates, willing, ready and waiting to
assist the Aztlan Liberation A-my (ALA) in ki-ling the wh-te p-gs
and reclaiming what is rightfully theirs....CALIFORNIA, NEVADA,
ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO.

The soldiers of the ALA are dedicated and well trained.

Some ALA soldiers have been sent to North Af-ica where they have
been trained in the ter-orist schools that have trained Isla-ic
te-rorists. They have learned how to bomb cars, go-ernment buildings,
assassi-ate gove-rment leaders, tort-re and interrogate prisoners.
They have learned how to buy nu-lear and biological weapons on
the b-ack market.

To read the rest of this article, which was written.
March 16, 2000, click here
http//www.rumormillnews.net/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=2200

Part 2 of 2.

JW There you have it folks. Remember don't let anyone put a date
on what is going to happen. It may happen on that date, another date
or not at all.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


oops

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On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:19:00 -0800, "John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com>
wrote:

> One of the best
>ways to change the future is to change ourselves.

Treat others as you would like to be treated. Cause no harm to others.

If you don't like liars, then don't lie. If you don't like pretense, then
don't be pretentious. If you don't like sneaky aliens, then don't be
sneaky.

And if you can't follow your own advice, then don't tell others what to do.
And certainly don't profess to be holier than those who you lie to.

oops

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On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:19:00 -0800, "John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com>
wrote:

>Subject: Bad News. Jan. 9, 2001.


>
> I have been sent the following news lately that is very bad news.

[...]

Yeah, giving people false hope is a mind control game. The truth is, the
greatest liars of all time are the ones sending the world Winston's message
-- promising a reward, when there is no reward for suffering.

If there was a God, it certainly wouldn't condone or permit abducting,
controlling, lying and sneaky aliens causing great suffering with the
Children of God. Nor would God permit this sort of bullshit propoganda
that Winston spews.

You get back what you give. If the world is full of hate, lying and
killing, then what are YOU doing to contribute to that?

"Physician" heal thyself.

Jo Jo

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Re: Thread 30.
==================================
==================================
That is the most wonderful thing I have read in a long time.... :-) .
====================================================================

Group: alt.alien.research Date: Mon, Jan 8, 2001, 2:43pm (CST-2) From:
john...@mlode.com (John F. Winston)

Subject: Chri-tmas, Bu-h And Vegetarianism.             Jan.
8, 2001.
    As I was singing the chorus of "All I Want For Christmas Is
My Two Front Teeth", I was pleased to see that someone had send me one
of those "Big Mouth Billy Bass". When I'm wondering whether or not to go
fishing, he sings to me, "Take Me To The River." When I'm visiting over
in Hawaii and get a little sad, he sings, Don't Worry Be Happy."
    Now let me state for sure that I am one of the biggest B-sh
bashers that ever existed. I been known to say all sorts of bad things
about him but here is something a little different.
.............................................
.............................................

From: S
Subject: President-Elect Bus- Leads Teenager to Ch-ist
    The following is from Dennis Lake of the Coalition of
Chu-ches prison ministry at Prestonwood Ba-tist Ch-rch, Plano, Texas:
There is a man in our church, Jeff Benoit, who has a friend who served
on President Elect B-sh's campaign in Austin, and she called him to tell
this story.
    Last week, Gov. Bu-h appeared at the thank-you banquet for
his campaign staff, and was going table to table to shake hands with the
1000+ campaign volunteers. He got to one lady, who by a brief comment
she made, indicated she was a Ch-istian. She was with her 16-year-old
son. Gov. -ush asked him if he was a believer, too. He said he didn't
think so.
    Gov. Bu-h then asked, "Do you mind if I tell you how I came
to know Chr-st as my Savior?"
    The boy agreed, and Gov. B-sh pulled up a chair and
witnessed to him for 30 minutes, and led him in the sinners prayer!!
Jeff's friend was so choked up, she could hardly tell the story through
tears.
    How glorious to know that our new president is a man that
doesn't feel the po-itical pressure to glad-hand 1000 people, but would
take 30 minutes of his precious time to lead a teenager to Ch-ist.
.......

    It all reminds me how things used to be in a small town in
Texas. It seems that people would get a little apathetic and all of a
sudden look around to find that their town was getting overrun by crime.
They would look around to see what was wrong and figure out that it was
the sherif's fault. They needed a new sherif, so they looked around for
a new one. Sure enough they found a real good one, got behind him and
cleaned up the town.
    The odd thing about this is that new sherif was not much
different than the sherif they had before.
...

Jo Jo

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Jan 10, 2001, 10:52:07 AM1/10/01
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About the destruction of the USA by nuclear attack; I don't buy into
it. Being in the military at this moment, I can assure you that we have
the means of knowing what other countries, allies or not are up to. We
also have the best in the world detection of any and all incoming
aircraft or subs. or ships, which if they prove to be a threat will be
eliminated before they reach our shores. What you are suggesting is
that the USA is a sitting duck with no idea of what is going on. Not
so. Have alittle faith in your military here in America and over seas
as well. We are not blindsided. We are not just sitting around doing
nothing.

BF11

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Have his first book "Awesome Force" privately published in 1982, and he
describes his free-energy device, plus his new soft-particle-hard
particle physics theories, and how he can explain everything with his
concept.

He was born in 1917, and was disillusioned with academic physics, gave
up a career to develop his unifying principle of soft-hard particle
physics.

It's an interesting book and several diagrams are seen no where else,
such as a concave mirror run to focus light, as a laser, that one could
make with about 15 Walmart magnifying face mirrors , and a light source.

He says he saw a similar device blow a hole in the side of a hill, using
sunlight, but doesn't give specs. on the assemblage to do it.

The book has 122 references, and covers all aspects of cosmology, and is
fun to read.

I like the self-sustaining electrical generator, using pulsed DC , with
no moving parts, as illustrated in the book also, and recommend the book
as good alternative reading.

BF 11

E. L.

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Jo Jo: I love it when you compliment my posts. I accept your
compliments from my heart. But when I see you post such an idiotic post
as this one, it makes me wonder what is going on between your ears. I
can say without any supporting evidence that NO ONE has ever witnessed a
human "shift" into any shape. This is really going off the deep end, no
matter how curious one can get.

And, while I'm at it, if Bush was ever witnessed doing religious work,
then it's time to resuscitate Lee Harvey Oswald! For if left to his own
devices, this country's capital will shift to the Vatican. We can't
have that. Better a dead religious president-to-be than an outspoken
religious president. Separation of church and state forever. It's the
only way the U.S. can survive as the U.S.

el
----------------------------------------------------
Re: Thread 30.
Group: alt.alien.research
Date: Mon, Jan 8, 2001, 12:50pm (EST-1) From: Jos...@webtv.net (Jo Jo)

John F. Winston

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Subject: From Russia With ----. Jan. 10, 2001.

Here is something I got in from an Internet friend of mine from
Russia.

.....................................................................
.....................................................................

From: Val-ry Uv-rov <ho...@m-il.admiral.ru>
Subject: From Russia

Dear John!
Wish you all the best in this new 2001!
We in Russia say - I wish you all I wish for myself!
Shortly I would like to inform you that we started to publish in
Internet Russian National UFO Digest "UFO Navigator" at
www.ufonav.spb.ru
It is in Russian language, but having russian speaking friend
sitting by your side you can have all last, truthful and verified
information about UFO activity in Russia.
Sincerely
Vale-y Uva-ov
Russia


Jo Jo

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Jan 11, 2001, 10:09:53 AM1/11/01
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E.L. ;
Now if I wasn't curious about shapeshifters l wouldn't be any fun at
all.
Don't rightly know what my feelings are
on them. It has been said that the royal family of England comes from a
long line of shpeshifters.It has been said that, Princess Diana had
commented on different occasion that the royal family were not human.
Now of course that statement could had meant anything given the bad
feeling she and the famiy had towards each other, but it is still fun to
speculate. :-) .

John F. Winston

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Subject: Information From Russia. Jan. 11, 2001.

Here is something that came to me from a friend who did translate
some of the material in the Russian person's web site. I've also
been told that if you click down about three times on the web site
then it is written in English.
.....................................................................
.....................................................................
From: D


Subject: From Russia With ----.

Thanks John,
Out of curiosity I went to this webpage
http://www.ufoinfo.spb.ru/engine/show.php3?id=1954 and copied the
text of some of the articles into a Russian-to-English Translator at:
http://www.rustran.com/socratisapi.php4
I pasted the results below. It is not perfect but you can read the
'gist' of the article!
--D
THE ASTRONAUT GORDON COOPER GIVES THE EVIDENCE! Gordon Cooper - one of
first and the most authoritative american astronaut. He was a stand-in
John Glenn, made first "american" flight around the Land. Now Gordon
- a consultant NA-A and owner to small company, specializing on
????????????? small aviation on reactive motion. The Interview with
him took place due to assistance of the businessman A.B. Berezina and
International information -an exploratory center "KOMKON". -In
interview american journal "Fayt" You confirm that were a witness of
the boarding UFO on the base VVS Edwards that in California. -Not
quite witness. But in 1957, when I served the test pilot on the base
Edwards, such event existed.
Our ?????????? worked at landing band, shooting scholastic film. I
was in that time in office. Suddenly operators is rung and speak that
in 50 metres from they land the unidentified object. I have ordered
??????? occurring, but itself has rung the command of the base and
??????? about happened. I was ordered to show the movie film and
send her(it) in Washington. I so and has done, but before this has
examined the ???????? material. On film were are clearly fixed all
stage happened - a reduction UFO, ?????????? from below three full
tilts, boarding, then lift-off, ?????????? full tilt and ????? object.
Before the most last time I nothing do not be aware this unique film
of fate. But here is recently to me was one official and has
reported that accepted decision ???????????? this film and do her(its)
?????????? public.

JW Here is a note I got from a person.

....



From: g
Subject: From Russia With ----.

Dear John,
Tell your Russian friend we are all ears for information concerning
UFO's, at least my ears perked somewhat.
S

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


E. L.

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Re: Thread 'n' needle
Group: alt.alien.research
Date: Thu, Jan 11, 2001, 9:09am (EST-1) From: Jos...@webtv.net (Jo Jo)

el: "Jo Jo, you gotta be more fun than being curious about mythical
thinking. Not being considered human is the most-used phrase by people
suffering at the hand of other humans. Period. You want to speculate
about something that is a mystery yet there's evidence for it, try Lunar
Anomalies. But not the lunar surface crap claimed by a ton of wishful
thinkers. Objects have been seen and filmed flitting over the lunar
surface. Try it, you might like it. ;-)

John F. Winston

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Subject: Where To See Some Movie Stars. Jan. 11, 2001.

Well, let me tell you that I've been to Hollywood and have seen
few has-been movie stars but if you really want to see the fresh,
king and queen of the hill type you'll go to the following place.

.....................................................................
.....................................................................

From: J
Subject: Celeb's/Masters celebrate in India!
From: "Barbara Ann *****" <rebi...@hotmail.com>
This just in from June, one of our Geobiology supporters in Australia
about this time coming up:
=================
What is taking place this year, - which is the "Year of Decision",
is when the Masters of the 6th Initiation - meet in conclave(& we are
told this is at the Ch-ist Festival, which will be the Full Moon in
June - the Full Moon in Taurus, being the Wesak, Festival of the
Buddha) & they decide, before they make their decision on which Path
they will follow when they leave the Earth, and they decide what
measure they propose the Hierarchy should take which will drastically
& permanently affect the planet on which They have lived and for which
they have worked. The decision they will make now will produce great
changes in our modern civilization - the opportunity comes every 49
yrs, & the last date was 1952, so that makes 2001 - the YEAR OF
DECISION. (from The Rays & Initiations by A.A. Bailey)

2000 was the year of the "Shamballa" impact, when a direct impulse
of energy was directed to Humanity, instead of being focussed through
the Hierarchy.
The Shamballa energy, is pure first ray, the Creator and Destroyer
- and this past year has been a major expression of that, in my life
anyway.
Kind regards - J

Madonna attends Indian festival

Newly-wed pop diva Madonna will join other global celebrities such
as Pierce Brosnan, Sharon Stone and Demi Moore at the world's largest
rel-gious festival in India, the Times of India said.
The stars will attend the 42-day Maha Kumbh Mela (Great Kumbh Fair),
which began Tuesday and is expected to draw up to 70 million devotees
seeking to wash away their s-ns in the northern Indian town of
Allahabad where the Ganges and Yamuna rivers converge.
The Times of India quoted a travel source as saying the self-styled
Queen of Pop and Hollywood stars such as Brosnan, Stone, Moore and
Richard Gere, a regular visitor to India, would attend the festival.
British tour operator Cox and Kings confirmed that several Hollywood
stars would be coming but refused to divulge their names for security
reasons.
"We are bringing in more than 600 premium guests to the Kumbh from
around the world," Indranil Pramanik, a manager in the product
development department of Cox and Kings told the Times.
Madan Kak from the Travel Corporation of India said they were flying
in unnamed "French celebrities" and added that their package would
include other exotic Hindu locales such as Pushkar in the desert state
of Rajasthan.
A travel executive told AFP the stars mentioned in the report were
very likely to come.
"They are Hindu freaks or heavily into India," she said. "But I can't
see them staying on in the Kumbh even in the most luxurious tents.
"They will make flying visits and if they stay overnight, it will
probably be in some five-star hotel nearby or they will be hosted by
prominent citizens."
The current Maha Kumbh Mela -- held once every 12 years -- has been
subjected to unprecedented security measures amid concerns of a possible
attack by Muslim militants. Mine-detector teams, navy divers and sniffer
dogs have been deployed to secure the massive 5,000-acre (2,000-hectare)
site.

JW Sounds good to me but unless I win the lottery don't look for me.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Good News. Jan. 13, 2001.

This looks like some people have come to save the day.

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From: S
Subject: It's Happening!
A bunch of us knew that something was about to happen before the end
of March, but we weren't sure what. Only that a wave of energy was
coming that would change everything...
S

Dear Friends,
I'm not sure where this is going but I know there is something of
importance to share. This feeling began yesterday when I received
another cryptic message. I knew there was more to come, so waited
before sharing.
I'm asking my guides to help me communicate to you what they want
shared at this time.
I have been told that the Space, S-irit, Terran Alliance is
comprised of those with an intent for the highest benefit of humanity
and the planet. They are from what are considered the Space and Spi-it
realms. The Great Wh-te Brotherhood/Sisterhood of Light, The S-iritual
Hierarchy,
The Divine Feminine Energies of the El-him, the As-tar Command, The
Group of One, The Galactic Federation, the Pleiadians, Arcturians,
Sir-ans.....(too many to mention) - those who have been involved with
humanity and the Earth Experiment since its inception and who are in
service to the Master Creator/Universe - are those involved in the
SST Alliance group. They are our brothers, sisters - family and
workmates.
They are here at this time to assist with the ascension plan for
Gaia and Humanity and all associated with Earth. The planet's
vortexes, portals, energy triangles and structures, and grids are all
being used by the Alliance at this time to support ascension. A plan
has been in place for some time which is being carried out very
quietly. The group consciousness is being 'tested' constantly to
gauge when is the best time for global sharing of what is happening.
For the past several days I've been feeling great activity around
me on many levels. I shared already about becoming aware of a
'landing' of sorts two nights ago. I felt and saw in the fourth
dimension, members of the Space, Spir-t, Terran Alliance in and
around my home. They seemed to be setting up a home base or base
camp in anticipation for some event that would happen in the near
future. (I have been told that these landings have happened
simultaneously all over the planet.)
My connections with those of the summit conference and the SST
Alliance during the New Year's Eve weekend had continued and
become even stronger during ensuing days.
I knew that the results of the conference would be long-lasting,
world changing. I wasn't sure at the time how or when the changes
would come about or even exactly what form they would take, but I
knew with all my knowingness, in my G-d-spark and soul, that
something very important was in the offing. I now know that it has
begun.
Several weeks ago during a sci fi TV show in which a 'summit
meeting' involving those of Earth and beyond was mentioned, I
received the first cryptic message - The time is now to put it
together.
I had no idea at the time that a summit meeting would actually be
held on Orcas Island a month later OR that the first cryptic message
would have such a galvanizing effect on the people in our WWW of
Light group. During the weeks in which our group communicated, two
more messages were received:
Live in the Now and Expect Miracles.
Last night I received: We're Ready
With the final message came a powerful euphoric feeling of hope
and a wonderful energy like Spring had arrived. There was an
incredible expectation, a feeling of rebirth, which has stayed with
me all day no matter what was happening at work. I've also received
an overwhelming knowingness, since the 'landing', that the illusion
of my 3D life is about to change dramatically for the better. All
that I've been co-creating with Sp-rit for the highest benefit of
all concerned is manifesting at lightning speed.
Now is the Time. We have earned it. We are Ready.
My new contract is beginning and I'll never look back.
For many of us brought together by that first cryptic message, this
is the case. The troops of Light have landed. Their presence is being
felt. There will be events, sightings.... related to both the S-irit
and Space realms happening world-wide that will make people sit back
and wake up - or at least make them take notice. We have entered a
time that we've worked toward for eons. A time that we have long
deserved. As Lord Sananda said at the Orcas conference,
"Sit back and enjoy the ride of your life".
In Loving Gratitude For All That Is, Angelynne

~~~~~>>*<<~~~~~>>*<<~~~~~

Subject: It's Happening Date: 1/10/01 To:
Thank you for your clear communication. We concur with every
nuance of your message. Commander A-htar has been quite prominent
in our morning Council sessions during these past several weeks. Up
until now, his role in Council has been more background.
He advised us that we, indeed, are preparing for our joint reUnion.
(Our portal is in Crestone, CO.) We have been noticing shadowy
figures wherever we turn almost constantly since mid-December. We
are each also having deep, core aspects of personal and planetary
consciousness, that have participated in separation's siren song,
pushed dramatically to the forefront of our awareness. We just can't
hide, duck, or ignore them any longer. They are asking to be brought
Home, in loving acceptance, so that we can ALL move on.
We extend our grateful blessings to Us All. Joie, Marianne,
Marvin Irby and the Rainbow Councils of Light (Note: After I wrote
the above note and after Council this morning, I was reminded of a
whole bunch more stuff that's been happening ... we've been
receiving 'energy/lightbody' adjustments about every 3 days from
our Galactic Medical Teams. We get jazzed and revved one day and
it takes us 3 days to assimilate and recover!! We are being given
closer and closer awarenesses, through various members of the
animal kingdoms, of how they, too, are small, holographic
representatives from star races. It's really being profound!!
Talk about REALLY GETTING IT!! that they are our Star brothers and
sisters!! Also, for the past several months, the Galactic Feds have
awakened me in the middle of the night (early morning), and asked me
to go out on our front balcony and look for them. Ships are showing
up in all kinds of ways and in many shapes and forms. They told me
they just wanted me to get used to hearing them and following their
guidance so we'd be able to hear them when they call us to go to a
certain place at a certain time to greet them. YOWZERS!!!)

~~~~~>>*<<~~~~~>>*<<~~~~~

RAINBOW BRIDGE COALITION
MISSION STATEMENT

We, the Rainbow Bridge Coalition, are a group of beings
who dwell both in body and in nonphysical form. We are
awake and functioning simultaneously on many levels of
reality and in many dimensions. We are a vast network,
utilizing a multitude of talents and abilities. We employ
technologies and modalities from many realms of
awareness. We are sovereign entities and a collective group
consciousness.
Our purpose here is to support and facilitate the
re-membrance of all humankind, as well as of Mother Earth
herself, and all of her inhabitants, into Our One Heart. We
are serving in many places, in many realms, throughout this
universe and beyond, in every moment. Here on Earth, we
are anchoring and embodying a galactic society standard for
group consciousness living by coming into sovereign
alignment with our Essential Selves -- our True Self that
knows only Divine Right Relationship: being in Love with
All That Is, at all times, as our central core and foundation.
Our group's area of focus is navigating, translating and
re-weaving realities. We specialize in transformational
energy resonance: personal, planetary, galactic, universal,
omniversal. In activated alignment with our True Self, our
embodied aspects offer themselves as conduits for denser
constructs and systems of separation and limitation to be
transduced and returned Home as they are called forth by
Divine Source. We are then able to step down, bridge, align
and re-weave our higher lightbody frequencies into
calibration and integration with our earthly electromagnetics.
This is our life, our passion, our work and our joy.
In any given moment we are interfacing with the: Council on
EinSoph, A-E-O-N., Council of Three, Council of Nine,
Intergalactic Union, Galactic Federation(s),
Andromedan-Draconian-Orion Alliance, Ash-ar Command,
Council of Sky Chiefs, Council of Indigenous Peoples, and
a wide array of adjunctive teams, councils and ad hoc
committees throughout our S-iritual, An-elic, Galactic and
Inner Earth Realms.
Our mission is to support those whose hearts sing and thrill,
whose beings vibrate, and whose inner chords of recognition
ask for more when you receive our wordtones. Our
dedication and support goes to all who are opening their
inner eyes, their inner ears and their inner hearts to resonate
with the Isness that We All Are. You will recognize, perhaps
not with your mind at first, but in your inner place of truth, a
vibrational frequency that speaks to Our One Heart and to a
greater knowing that unites us all.

~~~~~>>*<<~~~~~>>*<<~~~~~

THE RAINBOW COUNCIL OF LIGHT

We are the Rainbow Council of Light. We are bringing
Planet Earth and all of her inhabitants into Unification By
Being the One Heart.
Those of us who have revealed ourselves to our embodied
aspects thus far are: Mother of All, Father of All, Metatron,
Michael~Luc-fer~Lord Osiron (JW Yes it would appear that Luci-er
is now working for the Light), Lord Suraea, LadyMother
Assyria, Melchior~El Morya, Lord Mai-reya~Buddha
Lord Kelnar, Grace El-him, Archangel Ariel, Je--s~Sananda,
St. Germaine, Melchizadek, LadyMother Gaia, Chief Big Bear,
Chief Fools Crow, Wolf Star, Grandmother Spider, Grandfather
Cobra, Grandmother Boa, Austin Babcock, Katherine Lyons, Lord
Osiron~Marvin Irby Walton, Jr., MariElle~Marianne Wells~Miranda,
Lady A'llelle~J'aelle~Joie Bourisseau~RoundStar~~Mother of All.
>x(O)x<<;;*;;>>x(O)x<<;;*;;>>x(O)x<<;;*;;>>x(O)x<<;;*;;>

JW I would say that's about everybody and their dog.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


Jo Jo

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Jan 14, 2001, 7:34:54 AM1/14/01
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Some folks would disagree with you and your space federation groupies,
John Winston. The only people who actually know the intentions of alien
visitation would be those who have worked with and fought against
aliens.

John F. Winston

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Subject: Chemtrail Web Site Containing Call-in Names. Jan. 15, 2001.

I recently was sent the address of a web site that talks about
Chemtrails. Here it is:

http://www.sightings.com/general7/defense.htm

This web site also mentions some of the people who have read the
web site and here is the information in the web site about them.

.....................................................................
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_____________________________________________________

Chemtrails - Top Intel, Military, & Defense Contractors
Watching Carnicom.com
From Clifford Carnicom
www.carnicom.com
1-12-00

Let it be noted that some of the recent visitors to this web site
include: www.carnicom.com

(Let it also be noted that Un-ted St-tes gove-nment computer systems
are to be used for Official Business purposes only.)

1. Desert Rese-rch Institute in Nevada (weather modification research
institution) (repeat visits)
2. Fort Lewis Ar-y Mi-itary Base in the state of Washington (home
of special forces air squadron)
3. Lockheed Ma-tin (aviation and space defense contractor) (repeat
visits) (repeat repeat visits)
4. Los Alamos Na-ional Laboratory (repeat visit)
5. Allergan Pharmaceutical Co-poration (Allergy Pharmaceutical
Rese-rch Company)
6. Alliant Techsy-tems (Space and Strategic Defen-e Systems
contractor)
7. Raytheon De-ense Systems (Def-nse Contractor) (repeat visit)
(repeat repeat visit) (repeat repeat repeat visit)
8. BOEING AIRC-AFT COMPANY (100 visits minimum)
9. Un-ted St-tes Defe-se Logistics Agency (supplies and support to
combat troops)
10. Davis-Mo-than Air For-e Base, Tuscon AZ (home of 355th Wing)
(repeat visits) (repeat repeat visits) (repeat repeat repeat visit)
11. Dept of D-fense N-val Computer and Telecommunications Area
Master Station
12. U.S. Nav-l Sea Systems Command
13. Western Pacific Region of the Fed-ral Aviation Admini-tration,
Lawndale CA. (repeat visit) (repeat visit) (repeat visit)
14. National Aero-autics and Sp-ce Administration Langley Research
Center (10 visits minimum)
15. Un-ted St-tes Envir-nmental Protection Agency (20 visits minimum)
16. St. Vincent Ho-pital, Santa Fe New Mexico.
17. HEADQUARTERS UNI-ED ST-TES AIR FORCE, THE PEN-AGON
18. Un-ted St-tes Department of the Treas-ry (repeat visit) (repeat
visit)
19. Uni-ed Sta-es Department of Defe-se Educational Activity
20. AND-EWS AIR FORCE BASE, PROUD HOME OF AIR FORCE ONE
21. Uni-ed St-tes Fe-eral Aviation Administration
22. Un-ted S-ates N-val Research Center, Washington D.C.
23. Roc-well-Collins (U.S. def-nse contractor)
24. Hon-ywell (U.S. De-ense Contractor) (repeat visit)
25. Wright-Pat-erson Air Force Base, Dayton OH (repeat visit)
(repeat repeat visit)
26. Kadena Air Fo-ce Base, Okinawa, Japan
27. Camp Pe-dleton, U-ited St-tes Marine Corps (mandatory US Defen-e
anthrax vaccination program described at www.cpp.usmc.mil) (repeat
visit) (repeat visit)
28. Ames Re-earch Center, N-SA (one of primary missions is to
research ASTROBIOLOGY, i.e., the study of life in outer space) (repeat
visit)
29. Space Dy-amics Laboratory, Utah State University, North Logan,
Utah
30. Me-ck (Phar-aceutical Products and Health Re-earch) (repeat
visit)
31. McC-ellan Air Force Base, Sacramento, CA. (The Sacramento Air
Logistics Center at McClell-n Air Force Base, California performs
depot maintenance on the KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft and is heavily
involved in space and communications-electronics.) (repeat visit)
32. T-W (U.S. Def-nse Contractor) (repeat visit)
33. Teledyne Br-wn Engineering (U.S. De-ense Contractor)
34. Un-ted Sta-es Na-y Medical Department
35. Air National Gu-rd, Salt Lake City, Utah
36. Mo-santo Company (Chemical, Pesticide, and Pharm-ceutical
products) (repeat visit) (repeat repeat visits)
37. U.S. De-artment of Vet-rans Affairs
38. Ar-o Chemical Corporation
39. Sund-trand Aerospace (U.S. Def-nse Contractor)
40. National Oc-anic and Atmospherics Administration Aeronomy
Laboratory (conducts fundamental research on the chemical and physical
processes of the Earth's atmosphere)
41. Allied Si-nal Corporation (chemical, aerospace, energy) (repeat
visit) (repeat repeat visit) (repeat repeat repeat visit) (repeat
repeat repeat repeat
42. Aviation We-ther Center, Na-ional Oceanic and Atmospherics
Admi-istration
43. U-nited St-tes Ar-y Medical Department (repeat visit)
44. NA-A Go-dard Space Flight Center
45. Applied Physics Labo-atory, a research division of John Hopkins
Univ-rsity, which supports the U.S. De-ense Depa-tment
46. U-ited St-tes Nav-l Health Research Center, San Diego, CA
47. HEAD-UARTERS, U-ITED S-ATES AR-Y, THE PEN-AGON
48. Un-ted Sta-es General Acco-nting Office (The General Accounting
Office is the investigative arm of Con-ress. GAO performs audits and
evaluations of Gov-rnment programs and activities.)
49. Bri-tol-Myers Sq-ibb Company (Pha-maceutical Research and
development)
50. U-ited St-tes Nav-l Criminal Investigative Service (A worldwide
organization responsible for conducting criminal investigations and
counterin-elligence for the Depar-ment of the N-vy and for managing
nava- secu-ity programs.)
51. Na-ional Computer Secur-ty Center (NC-E) (Involved in advanced
w-rfare simulation)
52. The Mayo C-inic (repeat visit) (repeat repeat visit) (repeat
repeat repeat visit)
53. The Fe-eral Judi-iary (home of the Un-ted Sta-es Su-reme Court)
54. Un-ted St-tes Fed-ral Emergency Management Agency (Controls
a comprehensive, risk-based, emergency management program of
mitigation, preparedness, response and recovery.) (repeat visit)
55. Uni-ed S-ates Nav-l Surface Wa-fare Center, Crane IN (repeat
visit) (repeat repeat visit)
56. Un-ted Sta-es National Gu-rd Public Affairs Web Access (no
public access to this site)
57. UN-TED ST-TES SE-ATE (repeat visit) (repeat repeat visit) (repeat
repeat repeat visit) (repeat repeat repeat repeat visit)
58. Headquarters, Un-ted St-tes Air Fo-ce Reserve Command
59. Kaiser Perm-nente health organization
60. Uni-ed St-tes N-val Wa-fare Assessment Station
61. Air Univers-ty, Unit-d Sta-es Air Force
62. Un-ted Sta-es N-val Research Laboratory (repeat visit)
63. Enterprise Pro-ucts Partners L.P. (MTBE production)
64. U-ited S-ates Na-y Na-al Air Weapons Stations, China Lake CA
65. California Pacific Me-ical Center
66. U-ited S-ates De-ense Information Systems Agency (mission:
"To plan, engineer, develop, test, manage programs, acquire,
implement, operate, and maintain information systems for C4I and
mission support under all conditions
47. Harvard Pi-grim Health Care, New England
48. San Francisco De-artment of Public Health
49. BJC He-lth System, St. Louis, Missouri
70. Un-ted St-tes Open Source Information Systems (OSIS) (an
unclassified confederation of systems serving the intellig-nce
community with open source intelligence) OSIS sites include: (AIA)
Air Int-lligence Agency, Kelly A-B, San Antonio, TX IC-ROSE (CI-)
Central Inte-ligence Agency, Reston, VA (DIA) De-ense Intel-igence
Ag-ncy, Washington, D.C. (N-A) Nat-onal Se-urity Age-cy, Ft. Meade,
Laurel, MD (NIMA) National Imagery & Map-ing Agency Fairfax, VA
(NA-C) National Air Inte-ligence Center, Wright-Patterson AFB,
Dayton, OH
(N-IC) National Grou-d Inte-ligence Center, Charlottesville, VA
(M-IC) Mar-ne Corps Intell-gence Center, Quantico, VA
(N-IC) National Ma-itime Inte-ligence Center, Office of N-val
Inte-ligence, Suitland, MD (I-MC) In-elink Ser-ice Management
Center, Ft. Meade, Laurel, MD (repeat visit)
71. New Mexico Dep-rtment of Health
72. Un-ted St-tes Space and Na-al Warfare Systems Command (SPA-AR)
73. Un-ted Sta-es McMurdo Rese-rch Station, Antartica
74. Orlando Reg-onal Healthcare System, Florida
75. U-ited Sta-es Andersen Air Force Base, Guam
76. U-ited Sta-es Misawa Air Base, Japan
77. Uni-ed St-tes Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii
78. Unit-d S-ates Osan Air Force Base, Korea
79. Royal Air Fo-ce, Lakenheath, Suffolk
80. U-ited Sta-es Scott Air Force Base
81. Un-ted S-ates F.E. Warren Air Force Base
82. U-ited St-tes Air Force News Agency
83. Uni-ed Sta-es Langley Air Force Base (repeat visit)
84. Uni-ed Sta-es Tinker Air Force Base
85. Uni-ed St-tes McConnell Air Force Base
86. Un-ted Sta-es Charleston Air Force Base
87. Uni-ed Stat-s Randolph Air Force Base
88. Uni-ed St-tes Air Force Reserve Command
89. Uni-ed Sta-es Seymour Johnson Air Force Base
90. Uni-ed Sta-es Bolling Air Force Base, Washington DC
91. Kees-er Air Force Base, MS
91. Un-ted St-tes Hill Air Force Base
92. Un-ted St-tes Vandenberg Air Force Base, California
93. Un-ted St-tes Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota
94. Uni-ed St-tes Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska
05. ANDREWS AIR FO-CE BASE, PROUD HOME OF AIR FORCE ONE (repeat
visit)
96. HEADQ-ARTERS UN-TED STA-ES AIR FORCE, THE PE-TAGON (repeat
visit) (Visitors 75-96 arrived within a 24 hour period 9-23-99)
97. Un-ted St-tes Cannon Air Force Base, New Mexico
98. Un-ted St-tes McQuire Air Force Base
99. Unit-d Sta-es Beale Air Force Base (home of the U-2 fleet of
reconnaisance aircraft)
100. Uni-ed S-ates Depa-tment of Jus-ice - Fed-ral Bureau of Prisons
101. Metnet - Uni-ed St-tes Navy (associated with weather reporting
system and SPAW-R)
102. TRADOC - Un-ted St-tes Army Training and Doctrine Command,
Fort Monroe, VA
103. Newsweek Magazine
104. Un-ted S-ates Def-nse Advanced Research Projects Agency
105. Massachusetts Med-cal Society, Owner - Publisher : New England
Journal of Medicine
106. OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF DEF-NSE: THE OFFICE OF WILL-AM S.
COHEN, SECRETARY OF DEF-NSE (repeat visit)
107. HEADQUARTERS UN-TED ST-TES AIR FORCE, THE PEN-AGON (repeat
repeat visit)
108. UNI-ED ST-TES JOINT FORCES COMMAND (reports to US Secretary
of De-ense) (repeat visit)
109. N-val W-rfare Assessment Station, Corona, CA
110. Los Angeles County Emergency Operations Center
111. Commander in Chief, Uni-ed St-tes Pac-fic Fleet, Un-ted St-tes
Navy
112. HEADQUARTERS UN-TED ST-TES AIR FORCE, THE PE-TAGON
113. Defe-se Logistics Agency, Adminis-rative Support Center in
Europe
114. Un-ted St-ted Department of Def-nse Network Information Center,
Vienna, VA (repeat visits)
115. Office of the Assistant Secretary of the A-my
116. Headqu-rters, Un-ted St-tes Air Force, The Pe-tagon (repeat
visit)
117. U.S. News and World Report
118. Na-al Air Wa-fare Center - Aircraft Division (repeat visits)
119. New Zealand Parliament
120. HEADQUA-TERS U-ITED S-ATES AIR FORCE, THE PEN-AGON (multiple
repeat visits)
121. NI-R - Depart-ent of Def-nse Network Operations
(NIPRNet);
The De-ense Information Sys-ems Agency
(DISA) has established a number of NIPRNet gateways to the Internet,
which will be protected and controlled by firewalls and other
technologies.) (repeat visits)
122. Pete-son Air Force Base, Colorado Springs, CO (home of N-RAD
and SPA-ECOM)
123. Ray-heon (visits immediately after introduction of H-ARP
implications)
124. Un-ted Sta-es A-my W-r College
http://www.carnicom.com/conright.htm

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


Dan Wojciechowski

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Jan 16, 2001, 1:36:46 PM1/16/01
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"John F. Winston" wrote:
...

> In the last 10 days, since I have started counting, we have had
> Chemtrail spraying over Sonora, Calif. for 8 days straight then one
> day of no Chemtrails then one more day of spraying. This spraying
> is carried on from 8 to 10 hours a day, usually from about sunup to
> sundown.
...

As usual, before swallowing any of this nonsense, consider:
To actually conduct all this spraying, *THEY* would have to
control all the airline mechanics who would spot the equipment.
*THEY* would have to control all the service personel who bring
in all the tons of chemicals and load them into the airplanes.
*THEY* would have to control the factories producing the chemicals,
the trucks distributing the chemicals, the airlines paying the
truckers, the accountants doing the balance sheets for the airlines,
trucking companies, chemical companies, etc...
When you get right down to it, litteraly thousands of people, most of
them ordinary Joes and Janes, would have to be involved and kept quiet.

Wouldn't you think that if *THEY* were smart enough to pull all this
off, *THEY* would realize that high altitude arial spraying is ineffective
and uncontrolable?
Wouldn't you think that *THEY* would realize that after years of spraying,
NOTHING has happened?

Duh.
--
Dan (Woj...) dma...@lucent.com
" I say, we can go where we want to / a place where they will never find /
And we can act like we come from out of this world / Leave the real one
far behind / and we can dance. "

John F. Winston

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Subject: The Superstition Mountains And The Dracos. Jan. 16, 2001.

Gather round ye hearties and I will spin a little tale about the
Superstiion Mountain. I've been there and didn't get a good vibration
from it, so I left. I wouldn't recommend you going there unless you
have some connections. This material is scary and will bring fear into
some people's hearts but then to others it will bring in the spirit
of adventure.

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From: D
Subject: TRUE SA-GA OF DRACO HUMAN SACRIFICE AND RETALIATION BY A
PRIVATE HUMAN MILITIA
www.wiolawa.com

I am submitting to all Dragonslayers a multipart true life adventure
as told to me by one of our members as he experienced it 24 years ago.
Some of you know him for who he is; a retired, at the age of 22,
highly decorated Vietnam war veteran who was Special Forces trained
and who served three tours fighting communists, rescuing POW's and
working special missions for Air America. It cost him his right leg,
yet he was still well equipped to meet this next period of his life.
Keep in mind that the Soldier had no knowledge of Dracs at the time.
When we met, and he began his new education to what is going on
around him, and I could see curious recognition from time to time
coupled with a deep fear that he quickly hid. It was three months
later that he told me of his 18 month ordeal in the Superstition
Mountains in May of 1975 . The story came grudgingly at first;
obviously with much mental pain, and with occasional reluctance and
reservation. But because of what he knows now, taught by myself
and others on DS, he knew he couldn't keep hidden what he now
recognized as a Draco base camp. He desires to use for the present a
fictitious name for his boss.... we will call "Phil Allen".
Here is the beginning of his story.... of his life for two years
among the Dracos and Pteradons with their little ( 5 foot) Pets!!
In May of that year, I was asked to join a group of men who were
bringing gold out of the Superstitions. The leader, Phil Allen, spent
20 years of his life researching Me-ican archives, Spanish landgrants
and Mexi-an Go-ernment documents. He discovered what he believed to
be routes to 9 of the 12 Peralta family mines. Phil enlisted the aid
of several others and together they found all 9. Using pack mules and
horses, they moved in electric generators, hand held drills, food and
supplies and set up a base camp 15 miles in. Others would keep this
camp supplied and alternating teams of men would keep the mining camp
supplied....well supplied, especially with ice, lots of ice as they
liked to drink cold beverages, the one pleasure of the long hot day.
Since the last of the mines, No.'s 7, 8, & 9 were the most
productive, they started there, core mining much in the ways the old
timers had 150 yrs prior. The operation was covert. It was illegal
for civilians to own bulk gold in those days. It was processed and
flown out of the country. At 18 to 25 ounces per ton, it was a
lucrative business at best. The mining camp was very small. It was at
the top of a small arroyo or 'holler' and measured about 60' square..
flaked on two walls by cliffs going up...on one by a sheer 90'
drop-off and open on the arroyo side which looked downhill of the
1/4 mile long arroyo. The mines were in the sides of the arroyo
walls... so was the Draco entrance to their lair. Two-thirds of the
way down from the mini-camp was a small stand of pinion pine trees
..about 400 yards away and downhill. Phil Allen knew. He had known
of their existence for over 20 years. He had read of them in the
old archives. He knew what they were ...but not why-they were. Phil
had spent his life in these mountains running down leads to the gold
he was searching for. He saw them from time to time, following him,
pacing his movements. Terrified at first, he soon came to the
conclusion that if he simply ignored them nothing would happen and
nothing ever did.
It was different at the little camp, for in the arroyo walls was
a fourth entrance, hidden behind brush as were all of the others. At
first the group would set up a night guard for themselves. But it
soon became evident that they could not continue mining by day and
guarding by night. It was decided that they would hire a full time
night guard. They lost five men in the first three months. One simply
ran-never to be heard of again. Two returned via the base camp, not
even stopping for water or supplies, they rode their horses clear out
to U.S. 60 and on home! Two were found shredded, some parts missing
but obviously quite de-d. They were found down toward the end of the
arroyo near a small stand of pinion pine trees, about two hundred
yards from the camp. This was where the Dracs congregated and fed
at night. This was were the Soldier's year and a half nightmare
began.
Let's digress for a moment and set some background to this epic.
Phil and I met years ago shortly after I had retired from Vietnam.
We both had an affinity for guns and through the heat of a summer
afternoon we drank be-r at a bar in Apache Junction while discussing
ballistics and shooting. It came out that Phil and some friends
owned a local horse ranch and when called, worked as stuntmen for
whatever Hollywood movie set that needed them. We got along
famously and over the course of the next two years, I learned
horses-how to ride, how to care for them, how to do stunt falls,
trick mounting and dismounting and guns. They taught me how to fast
draw, shooting two hundred rounds a day and reloading them in the
evening. They had a quick draw holster rig that was handmade for me
and periodically I would join them in the little skits doing stunt
shoots and falls they put on at Rawhide.
Conversely, I taught them long range shooting; being the expert
and at the end of two years, all five were as deadly at 800 yard
shots, as I had become at 50 feet with my Long Colt 45. We had fun.
From time to time the men would disappear for a few weeks at a
time to do movie stunts leaving the operation of the ranch to me.
More often, Phil would go with some of the men and some others
that I didn't know into the Superstition Mountains. When I would
ask about it, I was told simply, "Don't ask!" - and I accepted that.
In May of '75 Phil came to me and explained what they were doing.
Phil had spent his entire life researching and prospecting in the
Superstitions. He spent months in northern Mexico in libraries,
monasteries and in family archives researching Spanish land grants
looking for information on what others thought were only rumors, the
mysterious Peralta gold mines. These were the mines that the Peralta
family supposedly had developed between the mid 1700's and the early
1800's. Phil spent twenty years of his life being rich one-year and
then dirt poor the next. He found 9 of the 12 reported mines.
It was at this point that Phil decided he needed my help. After an
afternoon and most of one evening explaining what he had accomplished
and what he wanted me to guard, Phil offered me what appeared at the
time to be an exorbitant amount of money for the job. I was to move
into the mountains with them and literally live there; sleeping days
and doing the guard job at nights. I would be guarding against would
be claim jumpers and the occasional weekend warrior who had stumbled
off the beaten path who needed guidance to forest service trails
........and against the Others.
Phil then told me what he had seen over the years. Only fleeting
looks and occasional glances of men who looked like lizards.
Apparently the mines, No.'s 7 , 8 and 9 were nestled in the
middle of a whole community of them. I had a hundred questions none
of which Phil could answer. Two things came out, number 1- they
did not attack the miners unless they went down to the stand of
pinions near the end of the arroyo at night and--number 2- there were
unspeakable horrible screams, growls and sounds that came up the
arroyo for hours on end.
I was to ignore them and under no circumstance leave the safety of
the camp. I knew Phil Allen; and despite the disbelief running
around inside my head, knew that he believed what he had just told
me. I then suggested that the authorities be called in and was
promptly told that the mining operation was covert at best, since
owning bulk gold was illegal. Phil had worked too long and too hard
all of his life for this fortune to lose it over some
"anthropological throw back". I went to bed that night doubting Phil
Allen for the first time since knowing him. But for $5000 a month,
I'll stay up nights and listen to anything scream a little.
At dawn the next morning we were on our way to the base camp with
a small convoy of supply trucks, pickups pulling horse trailers
and a new crew to replace those at the base camp. The operation
lacked for nothing. At the main camp we had steak, b-er, water,
tents with comfortable bunks and beds, generators and the fuel to
run them with electric lights-there were barbecue grills, hibachi's
and ice; Sweet wonderful ice. 105 temperatures were a daytime norm
and 110+ were too frequent to count. We lived on ice. I was told that
at least half of the supplies muled in to us every few days was
ice.
We arrived at the mining camp about 4pm on my first day. As we
rode up the arroyo the stand of pinions was pointed out to me. I
stopped to have a look around and everything appeared to be normal.
There were no signs of anyone or anything having ever been there.
Off to the north in the canyon wall could be seen the entrance to
what Phil called their cave. It was slightly larger than 4' in
diameter and was perfectly round. Nature doesn't do straight lines
or round ones. That was obviously man made. As I turned to go back
to my horse and continue up to the camp, something caught my eye
between two clumps of scrub grass. Moving one aside I saw what
immediately scared the living h--l out of me. It was a footprint
...... three toed, wide and long enough for my size 11 Cochran's
to fit inside the print.
This brought goosebumps up along my arms and a chill to my spine.
"Lets go," I said. I suddenly didn't want to be there anymore. My
mind was having a hard time absorbing what I'd just seen and making
it come out normal. One part said that what you just saw cannot
be, and the other part said, well, there it is. It was then too,
as we rode up the arroyo, I understood the Hollywood movie term
we've all heard, "I need a drink". Phil had some cold Beam at the
camp.

John F. Winston

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Subject: The Superstition Mountains And The Dracos. Part 2.
Jan. 17, 2001.

This area where the Superstition Mountains is near has American
Indians who have little saying that they put on signs saying, "Custer
Had It Comin." The following information is pretty gross so don't
read it if you don't care for that sort of thing.

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Finally we arrive at the mining camp; four men with horses and nine
pack mules ready to be unloaded. The camp area itself was like a large
flat rock about 60 feet square, more or less -- and situated at the
top of the arroyo.
Off to the North side were some faded petroglyphs carved into the
rock edge; A common thing throughout the desert southwest where Indian
pilgrims and prospectors would carve or mark an area for whatever
reason.
While the other three were helping the two men that were already at
the camp unload, I went down the 30 feet or so to see what Phil was
using as a guard post. It was a series of boulders ranging from
three and a half-to four feet high and each was nearly as wide, or
wider. There were five of them arranged in a small semicircle, which
was about fifteen feet long from one side of it to the other.
Two of them didn't quite meet at the bottom leaving about a
fifteen-inch gap in almost a square shape. I decided right then that
it would become my prone firing position. I lay down and looked
through. It would take a bit of clearing to get a clean shot from
side to side; no problem there. The tops of the five boulders would
be sufficient for a bench rest, a place where I could lay a rifle
across the top of the boulder for a steadier shot down the slope
toward the end of the arroyo, about 400 meters away. I made a mental
note to have aiming stakes placed every fifty meters beginning at
one hundred meters from the guard site. I didn't like the curved
gap between the tops of the boulders though. Phil would solve that
later by having a few bags of concrete sent in and we would place
other rocks between the boulders topped off by the flattest rocks
that could be found from the abundant desert landscape in an effort
to create as level a firing plane as possible.
The arroyo walls were sheer all the way down with the usual
desert flora and fauna abundantly flourishing. Some of that would
have to be removed if for no other reason than to prevent someone
from hiding behind it. The view of the stand of Pinions and Palo
Verde trees was excellent from here. Again I made mental notes to
have certain branches on particular trees removed and in two spots I
had the smaller trees in front removed altogether.
The entrance to the cave was included in that clearance effort. I
wanted to be able to see anything that moved in that part of the
arroyo even if it was 400 meters away. Returning to my horse I pulled
out the 30-06 Remington 700 that I had custom made here locally. The
barrel was tuned and floated in the stock and was as accurate a
weapon as man could make. I liked 180 grain, boattailed bullets for
distance shooting and striking power at the end of a long shot.
Those were custom made as well with just a little more power than
the average factory round. My scope was a cheap Reddfield 3X9
variable but it suited me just fine and I was used to it. After
years of practice I could hit anything I could see at 800 meters
with relative ease so the 400 to 450 meter range I would have to
deal with here was not going to be a problem.
Little did I know what changes were to be forthcoming.
Back up at the camp, the others were finished unpacking and
caring for the mules and horses. It was a little crowded with six
horses and four mules, but they were well hobbled and attached
to a tie line in one corner of the camp area. Two of the men were
just finishing up watering them as I came into the living area where
the tents with cots inside were.
There was a rather sophisticated campfire/barbecue edifice made of
cemented stones near the tents and one of the men was busily cooking
up steaks and baked potatoes and of course beans. Phil offered me a
cold b-d as I sat down on an empty box with some of the other men.
There were six of us altogether and from what I was seeing each had
his own specific assignment or job duty that tied in with everyone
else. There was little wasted effort here!
"What do you think?" he asked.
"You tell me I'm up against giant lizard men capable of shredding
a man wearing a .45 before he can pull it from his holster," I said,
referring to two of the five former guards who didn't last. "These
were stuntmen, quickdraw trained men who knew what they doing and
they couldn't protect themselves. What the h--l good do you think
I'm gonna' be if they rush us?"
"They won't." Phil said.
"How can you say that! Is it just because they never have?"
"Nope, and I can't tell you why either. A couple of times one of
the big ones and a few of the little ones would come hauling a-s up
the canyon at us but they always stopped about fifty feet or so
down from those boulders there and screamed and squalled at us for
awhile before running back to that Palo Verde stand."
"He--, why didn't you shoot 'em! I said.
"We did! Sh-- we'd burn up 30 or 40 rounds apiece and when they'd
had enough, they would gather their d-ad and wounded and hightail
it back down the canyon. They quit that s--t though. Guess they
couldn't stand the losses."
"I don't understand. All they had to do was come up here and eat
your a--es up, but they stood out a ways and roared at you. This
--it doesn't add up, Phil. In fact, why have a guard at all? Looks
like this rock is a safe haven for you."
"Well, if it were up to me I probably wouldn't have. I've been
running around here for twenty years now and they haven't bothered
me. But if they do rush us or try to sneak up on us it's going to
be at night and I want some kind of warning if they do."
"You won't get much. --it I could move half a dozen teams of SF
troops right up to where that brush stops and you would never hear
or see a thing - especially without a moon or a Starlight scope to
see with."
"You want one?" he asked.
"What, a Starlight? H--l, they cost about $4 grand to start!"
"Look," Phil said, " I'm taking over $20 thousand a week out of
here and flying it out of the county for processing to my banks in
the Ca-mans. As long as the F-ds won't let us common citizens have
bulk bouillon gold, I have no choice. I'm d--n sure not gonna' let
things get fu--ed up just because of some go--amned anthropological
throw back. The --ckin' money is not the issue here!
Keeping my people safe is and I'll spend what I need to keep this
operation going for as long as I can. It won't be long before some
stupid a-s ranger stumbles onto this and the game will be up anyway.
For right now, you tell me what you need and I'll see to it that you
get it."
"Alright. Bring in the best Starlight you can get and have it
mounted on a Colt M16. I'm used to using it that way. Those Verdes
are just about at the end of its range, but I like it better."
"Be here in a week, " he said, "Want another B-d?"
It was starting to get dark, and supper was being called out. We
went over and sat down to eat a good medium rare steak...
Night fell quickly after we ate. Not having slept since 4am that
morning I was not looking forward to spending the warm night trying
to stay awake watching the grove and the arroyo walls some 400 yards
below me. The moon would be full later on but it was near 7:30p now
and the grey of twilight was fading quickly to pitch black. I wore
a Colt .45 revolver and I laid out my Remington 30.06 (with scope).
The scope was a post instead of the usual crosshairs and I'd had
the post tipped with a little radioactive titainium so I could aim
at night with it. Phil and several of the men crowded into my little
watch area with me. Since this was my first night Phil thought it
prudent that someone be with me for the first few hours. After all,
the goal was to mine Peralta gold and although they wouldn't admit
it, the crew was anxious to be back up to the safety of "the rock".
Using the 60x spotting scope I began to methodically search the
clearing and the trees that ringed it.
"Anything?", Phil asked.
"No, nothing but shadows so far," I answered. "Why don't you go
ahead and get some sleep. You'll know if I need some help!", I
said with half a grin.
"Nope, not yet. You're the new kid on the block and I figure
they're gonna cook something up special just for you."
He no sooner quit talking than a spine splitting scream came
spiking its way up the path from the direction of the little grove.
I hadn't had a scared feeling like that since I was in Vietnam
six years earlier. I grabbed the spotting scope, knocked it out of
focus in my hurry and then jammed the da-- thing into my eye in my
haste to get a look at what made that sound. I lost precious moments
clearing the tears out of my eye and getting the focus back.
Phil dropped behind the wall of boulders cu-sing faster than I
could hear it and his son-in-law, Ron hit the ground at a dead run,
falling to his knees next to Phil. He was carrying a Remington 12ga
and he chambered a round as his head came up over the top of the
bolders at the same time the barrel did.
What I saw make my b-ood run cold. Not just the lizards but the
woman who was tied to the X cross in the grove below me. The
taller of the lizards leaned over and burried his head between her
head and right shoulder. It took a moment for her second scream
of the night to reach us. It like to split me open with it's sound
of pure terror folorn frustration. I grabbed my rifle, cranked the
scope to it's max power setting and took another look.
When that thing moved away from her most of the muscle above her
right clavacle was gone and although I couldn't see color at night
that far away, I knew what I saw running down her blouse was her
own bl-od.
"Take 'em both.", Phil whispered.
I put my first round exactly between her eyes and the second
into the lizard just below where his right ear should have been.
His head split open like a melon spewing cr-p everywhere.
"Oh, you've done it now!", and I could see a dozen or more of the
lizard ba--ards running, zig-zagging up the arroyo toward us using
the bolders and brush for what cover they could.

Part 2.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: The Superstition Mountains And The Dracos. Part 3 of 3.
Jan. 18, 2001.

This part is about as gross as the rest of it. When I was brought
up as a kid in Texas I received a single shot 22 rifle when I was 13
years old and I shot BB guns since I was about 6 years old. I was
then given an over and under 20 gauge shot gun. Next I used a long
barreled pump 12 gauge shotgun. After that I used a 30-40 Krag,
world war one military rifle. Last of all I used a 35 Remington,
barrel within a barrel deer rifle. I shot everything that moved
such as birds, rabbits, crows, hawks, antelope and deer. Then when
I was about 35 years old, learned about telepathy, that animals
could think and didn't like to be killed and I stopped killing
birds and animals ever since that time.

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Good timing on mother natures part. The moon had just cleared the
arroyo ridge and that whole valley lit up! They were heavy. The sound
of them was like a herd of horses at a dead run, and from the way
they moved through the brush it was obvious that they weren't having
any trouble with night vision. Just as suddenly it got quiet. I mean
the only thing I could hear was the sound of our breathing.
"Why'd they stop?" I asked. Grabbing the spotter scope I began
searching the ground between me and where I'd last seen them. Not
even a twig moved.
"They ain't stopped." Phil said. "Dobe, watch that right side! They
like to come up over there and throw rocks from there!"
"Rocks! Against guns! Common, man, these things can't be that
stupid! They oughta just charge right in here and eat our a-s with or
without the technology I've seen so far!"
"Just you wait," Phil said, "They throw a 10lb rock the size of a
football like you'd throw a baseball."
Sighting through my 30.06 I concentrated on the last 150 yards
between me and the bottom of the arroyo and on a path about 20 yards
wide. Swinging the rifle back and forth I was looking for movement
of bush or beast. The chaparral, sage and cholla here were about
waist high on a man but it was thick. The rocks and boulders were
rough edged and loose, so it stood to reason that anything as big as
these basta--s were would make some sound or give away their position
while moving through it. Pedro, our cook and wrangler was to my left
praying something in Spanish. At least I think he was praying; I
heard a lot of "Madre de Dios" mixed in with what was obviously
sw-aring. His hat was pushed way back on his head and he was aiming
down the barrel of his 30-30 carbine even though it was too dark,
even with the full moon, to use his sights. About five or six yards
up and behind us, Steffy sat on a camp stool, his 12ga. Wingmaster
pump lying across his lap. Steffy was a skeet champion in his
young days and spent his time between running a horse ranch in Queen
Creek and funding Phil in his search for gold mines these days.
Phil was to my immediate right and had been looking through the 60X
spotter scope doing the same thing I was; working a path 20 X 150
yards, or so. I sure needed a ciga-ette right then; and a big cup of
coffee. I was a coffee-holic even back then. I saw the movement of
the brush about 80 yards in front of me just about the time Phil
said my name. "Got it," I said, "You see anything besides moving
bushes?"
"Nope." His matter of fact answer was less than reassuring.
"Look, there it is again!"
"I got it, but we're being f--ked with here! That's the same bush
that shook before; they're not coming from that direction, it's a ..."
I didn't get the word, 'diversion', out of my mouth before a flood
of rocks started landing all around us. A loud, Oomph, from behind
me made me turn around in time to see Steffy falling off of his
campstool, blood running down his face. Ron went back to help him
and to pull him out of the open.
Meanwhile the rest of the people on the line began shooting down
into the arroyo blindly. Muzzle flashes and the roar of rifles,
shotguns and pistol deafened the night. Sometimes since having
left Vietnam, where I'd spent three years hunting communists in the
5th S.F. Gp., my mind would revert back to those days where every
instinct and ounce of training and hardcore experience were a
part of my every waking moment. It was so now. I had instinctively
closed my eyes when everyone began shooting so that I could save
my night vision.
"Everybody move five feet right!" I screamed and I pushed Phil away
from me as I moved five feet to my right. Turning I yelled at Pedro
to follow me to his right. The whole thing took five or ten seconds
to complete and we were no sooner moved than another barrage of rocks
landed right where each man had been before. Even the areas some 60
yards behind us received a smattering of rocks with tents being
bombarded and equipment being hailed upon.
This time when I came up there were targets aplenty for me! Some
40 to 50 yards in front of me ranged a line of Lizards across the
arroyo, each caught in the act of either throwing a rock or in
having just launched one our way.
I started on the left and dropped the first four, each with a
bullet at the point where his neck met his chest. The screams of
dying Lizards and outraged live ones made a new sound in the night.
Dropping down, I reloaded, and popped back up to take out the first
of four more to my right. There hadn't been time to adjust my
sights and my poor mans' Redfield was still set at 9X. Lizard
head and chest filled my sights to capacity and the titanium tipped
post glowed like a beacon in a storm. There was no thought to what
I was doing. I could see the fine scales around the cheeks and eyes
that grew smaller and smaller as they got close to the eye socket.
The eye itself had a vertical pupil, like a cats and the mouth,
filled with jagged pointy teeth, wasn't just in the center of the
face but seemed to be hinged on each side of the head and opened
like the great maw of some Hollywood monster. Number one took my
first 180 gr bullet down his throat; number two just above his
upper lip. The third and fourth were by this time running away from
me and were both shot between the shoulder blades about where I
thought a heart would be. I never used the fifth round; I had
grown into the habit of saving it for me. No matter; They were on
the run now, stopping only to pickup their dead and making no
pretence of being stealthful or quiet.
"You three stay here and keep an eye out, I'm going up to see
how Steffy is." Phil ordered. I light up a much-needed Camel
turned to Pedro and asked him if he still had coffee in the
thermoses.
.............more later.............
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ADDENDUM:

Notice: The following are a few comments from Wiolawa as relayed on
an internet mailing list. These revelations suggest that there is
more to this story than meets the eye:
Date: Sat Nov 18, 2000 10:05pm
Subject: Superstitions
PER.. yes the Superstitions is where many of my pix are from and where
Rich encountered his dracs and pteras..... I went hiking there
today... beautiful day..... but I'm always very careful and well
armed.. which doesn't say much for me as their tek is far greater
than our guns but they can kill them..ask RICH to write his story
about the HOLE IN THE WALL.
That lady is lucky she wasn't lunch........ there are huge
undergound caverns and many different critters.. I've heard some
amazing true stories.. that are horrific.. that I haven't posted yet,
from friends who have hiked in there..
About 1980's an entire group of college kids - 14, dissappeared
without a trace backpacking.... Well unfortunately we all know too
well what happened to them.... Kaye Kizzear. I have had a long talk
with... She was abducted by the small bears.... and actually has
never been inside the SUPS.. There have been many many who have
dissappeared in that area.. which is an enormous area btw... and
many tragic stories.... it is my belief... that besides gold....
which RICH and his group took out.. there are many relics of the
civilizations that have gone before us.... and they are heavily
guarded..but eventually we will have to clean the area out.. my
yeti page came also from that area a little south.. many many
innerterrestrials... and lizards, and pteras.. yes.. my friend..
its ALL THERE.. to encounter..... no wonder I have such trouble
finding friends to hike with...... they don't want to go.....
but I still need a support group.... Salvadore is one of my best
friends.... who has encountered them and lived to tell about it...
he was recommended to me by KAYE.
Wio....
Date: Sun Nov 19, 2000 11:55am
Subject: Superstitions
Grant.... yes there are both pteradons and pteradactyls in Arizona...
.. Rich actually saw the pteradons eating the people in the SUPS.. he
went immediately to the library to look up which type of critter it
was.. who flew in for the sacrifices.....another spot for accessing
them is around Ft. Huachuca and the Dragoon Nts.. and thanx for that
report about the little house lizard... because I know for one I
have had them too.... the interesting thing is that my mouse
population fluctuates dramatically when they are around..... the
really scarry thing that happened once was noticing the slithering
idiot under my pillow.... boy this draconian fight isn't for the
faint hearted.....
W.
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Part 3 of 3.

JW That is all of this information that has been sent to me so far.


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Jo Jo

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Jan 19, 2001, 5:22:51 PM1/19/01
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Superstition Mountain and the Dracos:

So where are some photos? Not talking
about photos of the area. Photos of the Dracos? This story makes for
good fiction reading, but without photograghic evidents of the Dracos it
is pure Bull.

John F. Winston

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Jan 20, 2001, 1:26:33 AM1/20/01
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Subject: Blame It On The Cabals. Jan. 19, 2001.

Many years ago when my Guru and Teacher Merele Fagot was talking
to me and he told me the following story:
A few years back in time I had a friend called Dr. Chenderline. He
was a regular medical doctor who was interested Free Energy. He
had found out how to make a free energy device and had gone down
and purchased the material to build it from a store. Before he
had a chance to even get the device put together he was visited by some
of the representatives of the large power and fuel companies.
He asked them why they didn't want him to build the device and
they told him that if he produced the device it would put them out
of business. The conversation finally progress to the point that
he would be liguidated if he made such a device. He then stopped
building the device and was not bothered by them any more.

Lately we have been having black-outs in certain areas due to the
so-called lack of electrical power here in Calif. My electricity
went out for about an hour which is not very much because I'm
equipped with auxiliary power from two portable electrical generators
that I had when Y2K came around.

It surely would be great if the powers that be would let us have
free energy devices, but then when you say things like that people
say things, "Your crazy. Don't you know you can't get more energy
out of a device than you put into it. Don't you know there is
no such thing as Perpetual Motion." Some of these people don't
realize that we have alternating fields that go between the planets and
these fields can be tapped to produce power.

We are still being sprayed with Chemtrails as I speak. They spray
for about 7 of 8 days and then we have no spraying for 2 or more days.
Yesterday I saw the largest one I have ever seen. It was more than
one quarter mile wide and about 20 miles long.

Lately I've been wondering what Sheldan would be saying about
the landings that were mentioned before. If Sheldan isn't your
cut of tea then please don't read the following.

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From: S
Subject: Changing Times
This update by Sheldan Nidle is a compete change from all
the former ones! Things are finally turning positive!
o//O\\o;;>>X<<;;o//O\\o;;>>X<<;;o//O\\o;;>>X<<;;o//O\\o;;>>

Update by Sheldan Nidle For January 16, 2001 from the
Sp-ritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation 1 Cimi, 14
Chen, 9 Eb
Selamat Jarin!
We arrive, bringing more information that will interest you.
Presently, your cabals are completing with us a number of
agreements that are the result of negotiations begun over a
year ago. Because of them, we are confident that the next
stage in your development is quite close. In this, you will be
expected to use certain resources and abilities to forge the
worldwide organizations and networks to which we have
referred in other recent messages.
Always remember, dear Hearts, that your perceptions of
this reality are about to change. We ask each of you, in all
sincerity, to use the remaining moments to carefully review
your true intentions. In this regard, bear in mind that yours
is a world presently based upon restriction. You will now
have the opportunity to transform it into a world founded
upon abundance. Abundance is both physical and spi-itual
in nature. It is a power that Heaven has given you to swiftly
alter humanity. It is a way by which to end your present
divisions and produce an amazing unity founded, in turn,
upon your shared connections.
Your worldly cabals are inviting you to carry out the
mandate of Heaven, which states that you are to return
quickly to a state of full consciousness. As part of these
decrees, you are to nurture and sustain Mother Earth and
each other. Therefore, the time has come to clean up your
biosphere and prepare your precious Mother Earth to
receive her gift of full consciousness from the Creator.
This process, dear Friends, is not being performed in a
vacuum. As noted, many aspects of Heaven and of your
Galactic Federation of Light have arrived at your doorstep.
Once you have received the next stages of your growth, you
must meet your sp-ritual and galactic kin. We have strongly
requested that present denials concerning our existence
cease and we have opened a number of discussions that
focus directly upon these matters. We have given your
gov-rnments a clear-cut timetable for carrying out these
proposals. We have also formally notified various mil-tary
agencies of our intent and of the need to begin to withdraw
any of their top-secret worldwide forces involved in the
interdiction of our ships.
Your go-ernments possess inventories of advanced
spacecraft and other types of mili-ary technology that we
wish you to learn about in the near future. It is crucial
that you discover the extent to which your g-vernments
have gone in producing technologies that provide for
electrogravitic transportation, teleportation, energy
production, time travel and the eradication your world's
diseases.
In addition, they have unlocked the secret of manipulating
DNA and can clone any biological organism at will.
Electronics exist that permit advanced holographic/photon-
based computers and can produce the equivalent of what
you know as androids.
All of these wonders have existed, in secret, for decades.
They are the result of clandestine agreements between
your gove-nments and a number of off-world dark empires
that, in the last few years, have altered their allegiances and
become solidly associated with the Galactic Federation of
Light. In fact, they are part of the many fleets now sitting at
your door. We feel strongly that these disclosures are an
essential part of what you need to know.
As you learn about the way your go-ernment has falsely
manipulated you, we ask that you treat this information
with an air of grace. Learn, dear Hearts, to forgive and to
understand that vengeance is not a quality bestowed upon
a highly conscious Being of the Light. Your mission is to
produce a new reality founded upon divine grace. Grace
means that you accept truth, and honor it. It is your duty to
transform your realm and not to judge it. Leave judgment
to the Creator and Heaven's sacred messengers. They will
do what is necessary to balance this karma and divinely
transform it, as provided for by the divine plan.
Ahead of you lies a monumental increase in your
responsibilities. To carry them out, you must comprehend
what has occurred and how best to employ the information.
This sacred wisdom is part of the reason A-E-O-N has
come to assist you. Our primary mission is to graciously
oversee your progress and to ensure your inevitable success.
Your cabals already have agreed to these projects. For you,
they are the start of a vast education. At the appropriate time,
we will give you more detailed information. These items,
and the events surrounding them, are part of your return to
being full-fledged members of the Galactic Federation of
Light. As you can see, a truly amazing series of tasks lies
before us all.
The integration of your numerous physical and spiritual
components is merely a starting point. Beyond it is a vast
amount of information that you need to quickly absorb.
To do this, you require truly amazing teachers and equally
remarkable technologies. These technologies, at which
we have only hinted, are really just the tip of an enormous
iceberg. Even more wondrous possibilities are being
prepared for you. At first, most of them will seem magical
or even impossible to you. In this regard, keep in mind that
you are about to transform your science by producing a
new paradigm.
This paradigm is now being formed. Every day, many of
your astro- and sub-atomic physicists make discoveries that
defy their conceptions of how this Creation works. It causes
them to look anew at the principles that currently guide
their research. This search is opening your science up to a
paradigm that can finally integrate the realm of Spirit with
that of the physical. It is spurring new research on the
origins of Creation.
These events are all an essential part of the grand
transformation that you are presently undergoing. Think of
this procedure, dear Hearts, as a vast series of seemingly
unconnected puzzle pieces that, eventually, will show you
how they can, indeed, be joined. This process of inherent
synergy will lead you to a most extraordinary destiny.
This process is occurring in a rapidly changing world.
Highlighting this change is a new attitude being shown us
by most of your world's cabals. Only a small, still-powerful
element of these assorted groups remains deeply committed
to carrying out their dark objectives. These new developments
are the result of a process that is part of your transformation.
Remember that each part of your reality is firmly connected
to the other.
Recently, this process has allowed groups that long have
secretly controlled you to understand the nature of their
obligations to you. Moreover, they have begun to learn how
to switch their methods from controlling to nurturing. This
realization is only at its merest beginnings. Much remains
to be done, but their present levels of cooperation greatly
encourage us.
This leaves us with the process of changing those on your
world who yet oppose us. They are a very hardheaded
group. Nonetheless, we remain confident that the
procedures now in place will soon teach them that their
agendas are beyond their reach. They need to make certain
necessary corrections in their present policies. In this
regard, we ask you to continue to send them your positive
energies and thoughts. We, in turn, will maintain policies
that show them the absurdity of their dark plans. To do this,
we continue to negotiate with them and other much more
friendly cabals. We have put into place several companies
of our fleets and begun a more detailed observation of their
forces. Together, we are destined, soon, to succeed and to
celebrate our formal meeting.
Today, we have discussed matters that involve our
preparations to fulfill our collective mission. This operation
is ready, presently, to enter a new stage, in which we will
draw ever closer to a final, joyous encounter. We remain
confident that the timetable, which the divine plan has
established, will be accomplished. We now take our leave.
Blessings, dear Hearts! You are ready to receive the
abundance and prosperity of Heaven! Soon, we shall meet!
Amen.
Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in
Joy!)

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: The Future Is Before Us, The Past Is -----. Jan. 20, 2001.

This statement is sometimes said by politicians but they don't
really mean anything. The following is about the future and also
the last part is the definition of a Cabal.

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From: H

Subject: Future Explained

Planet Earth and all its inhabitants have been
vibrating within the 3rd dimension for quite some
time. According to what I read about cosmic cycles, we
are now shifting from a 3-dimensional existence to one
that vibrates at a higher level of energy. This
birthing process is a major cosmic event for us and
its purpose is to deliver this planet and all
participating life forms into a higher dimension. A
Harmonic Convergence took place during 1987, (JW Yes I
was on the side of Mt. Shasta when that happened and had
more fun than a person should.) which marked the Earth's
movement into a higher vibration or dimension.
Yes, Earth is going to go through a profound change
and it will be like paradise compared to its current
way of being. The driving force behind this
irreversible and benevolent transformation is a wave
of energy called the "Chri-t Consciousness." This is
part of the second coming of Chr-st we are all
familiar with. Interestingly, there is the possibility
that Ch-ist may be walking on this planet today and is
in the process of helping us go through the shift in
consciousness taking place. This is a profound
thought and, if true, is beyond description in its
implications.
In addition, the human family currently on planet
Earth is not homogeneous. Rather, it appears to be a
mixture of starseeds from other planetary systems who
were aware that our planet was going to go through a
profound dimensional shift in consciousness at this
point in time. These starseeds volunteered to forget
who they are and where they came from. They were then
born here as "humans" and, as cosmic volunteers, will
help our planet go through its transformation into the
Light. In order to achieve this, they were pre-coded
to awaken to who they really are at this point in
time... beings of light and love. Apparently, they
have done this many times before with other planetary
systems. They live to serve their many brothers and
sister from the stars. Such is their love for us.
The sole purpose behind the dimensional shift for
planet Earth is to change it from a fear-driven planet
to one whose alignment will be sp-ritual and based
upon love. The shift will be irreversible and is
estimated to intensify during the next time. To those
paying attention, the shift is already occurring. The
New A-e of Aquarius has begun.
Furthermore it would appear that over the past 20-30
years or so, we have been given the opportunity make
choices in our lives that are based upon love or those
based upon fear. Those who continue to choose a life
that is fear-based will be shifted to another planet
which still vibrates at the 3-dimensional level. They
will continue on with the life-death karmic cycle
until they choose a path of love. Those who are
choosing a life of love will continue on with planet
Earth and move into a higher dimension. These will be
the Golden Years referred to in the prophesies.
Can all of this shift into other dimensions be proven.
Not really. However, one thing is for sure. There is a
massive change in consciousness taking place on planet
Earth these days. Millions and millions of people are
awakening s-iritually. This in turn has affected the
global consciousness of our planet. Many of the dire
prophesies made for these times simply have not
happened. Yes, there are erratic and violent weather
patterns and other Earth changes taking place but the
worst scenarios appear to have been softened by our
planetary spiri-ual awakening. My best advice is to
have no fear regardless of what happens. Just be the
magnificent Being of Light that you are, gently spread
that light and love to all you meet... and do all you
can to heal our planet and end separation among
mankind.
Along with these changes we are beginning to vibrate
more quickly. For many who are awakening, this has not
been the most enjoyable experience physically.
Symptoms of exhaustion, malaise, a desire to be out of
the rat race, lack of focus and concentration,
sleeping for long periods of time, a desire to find
inner peace. There are times when your feelings may be
more intense. You might get angry or impatient in a
way that comes as a complete surprise to you. Perhaps
you are over emotional, cry a lot, feel things deeply.
Try to rest easy. These are all a part of the
transmutation process.
In short, the world isn't ending, but it will be a
time of change, upheaval and flux. Planet Earth will
no longer permit 3-dimensional situations and
attitudes. All the rules are changing. Do not try to
hold on to your past experiences and beliefs because
they will no longer apply. It is time to let them go.
Journey Earth, as we have known it, is almost over.
What is also ending is the suffocation of this
magnificent planet with fear. We are now birthing into
a New Ag- of unconditional love, peace, harmony and
sharing among one another. Pisces is loosing its grip.
Aquarius is upon us. Can you feel its influence deep
within?

JW People in the past have accused me of spreading fear
and I will have to say that they are right. Let's hope
I won't have to talk so much about things that are
fearful in the future.

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Now for the second topic for the day.

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From: J
Subject: Changing Times - Sheldon Niddle Article

Cabal Meaning

Here is clarification of the meaning of the word "cabal" or
"cabals" from the Sheldon Niddle article I posted a couple days
ago. It clarifies the meaning of the post.
Blessings,
J
----- Original Message -----
From: C H

Hello J
I went into the website and wrote to them with your request.
Here is what the answer was:
Aloha Dear Heart,
Yes, according to Webster's dictionary, cabal is a small group
of se-ret plotters.
We use the term to describe the se-ret gov-rnment who presently rules
over Earth. This sec-et gove-nment consists of several groups who are
presently fighting among themselves. Of course, it is more complicated
than this but simply put - the European contingent of cabals has "seen
the Light" and are beginning to support the ascension process. The
Ame-ican contingent is resisting and holding onto their "power-trip."
This is why the Galactic Federation and Sp-ritual Hierarchy are asking
for our compassion to those ill-directed rulers. Love is the answer to
everything.
Hope this helps.
Selamat Ja!
C
Meaning found at www.dictionary.com

cabal \Ca*bal"\ (k[.a]*b[a^]l"), n. cabale cabal, cabala, LL. cabala
cabala, fr. Heb. qabb[=a]l[=e]h reception, tradition, mysterious
doctrine, fr. q[=a]bal to take or receive, in Pi["e]l qibbel to adopt
(a doctrine).]
1. Tradition; occult doctrine. See Cabala [Obs.] --Hakewill.
2. A secret. [Obs.] ``The measuring of the temple, a cabal found out
but lately.'' --B. Jonson.
3. A number of persons united in some close design, usually to
promote their private views and interests in chu-ch or state by
intrigue; a s-cret association composed of a few designing persons;
a junto.
Note: It so happened, by a whimsical coincidence, that in 1671 the
cabinet consisted of five persons, the initial letters of whose
names made up the word cabal; Cli-ford, Arl-ngton, Buck-ngham, As-ley,
and La-derdale. --Macaulay.
4. The secret artifices or machinations of a few persons united
in a close design; intrigue.
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John F. Winston

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Subject: Underground Water Systems In Calif. And UFOs. Jan. 21, 2001.

I've done quite a bit of looking around in the area of Dandy, Calif.
which is East of Barstow, Calif. Here is some information about that
area.

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Subject: Subterranean River Canyons of California
Excerpt from Branton's CAVERNS, DUNGEONS & LABYRINTHS:

Leon Davidson, in an early issue of 'FLYING SAUCERS' Magazine,
spoke of a large network of "underground tunnels in the California
desert, at Camp Irwin, near Barstow." This may tie-in with an item
related by a Los Angeles municipal water director, as related in an
early issue of Richard Toronto's SHAVERTRON letter-zine, stating that
this water director knew of 5 large underground rivers which ran
beneath the Mojave desert, and that die-traces showed that at least
one of these emptied into the Pacific ocean through openings in the
continental slopes (One source stated that such a river exited in
the Gulf of California.
Other sources speak of a "Kokoweef" river-system which is alleged
to lie below Kokoweef peak just east of FORT Irwin, which looked-
-according to it's alleged discoverer, a Mr. Earl Dorr, and a few
"Indians" who also claimed to have been in it--like a "Grand Canyon"
underground. It allegedly consists of a river chasm generally 500 ft.
wide and over a thousand feet high-deep, sided by steep tiered-shelved
underground cliffs, huge stalactites and cataracts. Also, the alluvial
sands on the 'beaches' along the river, which allegedly hold a large
percentage of gold dust, are said to be several feet deep.
The entrance to this cavern was allegedly dynamited shut by Mr.
Dorr to protect anyone else from getting to "his" gold. There is in
fact evidence that Dorr did dynamite shut the lower level of 'Kin
Sabe' cave in Kokoweef Peak, and there are present-day attempts to
break through into this underground system. The water of the river
allegedly rose and fell with the tides, suggesting that a very large
body of water might exist upstream, that is if Dorr's account as
well as the accounts of the Indians were not fabricated).
The municipal water director, according to the SHAVERTRON article,
spoke with a man who claimed that he was hired several years ago by
the gov-rnment to look for water sources for Ft. Irwin. He alleged
to have explored an old mine in the area and found that deep down,
the shaft intersected with an ancient earth fault or chasm- like
cave which continued horizontally for a considerable distance. This
gov-rnment employee followed the chasm and allegedly emerged onto the
bank of a huge underground river-cave over a quarter of a mile wide!
The tremendous water flow-- possibly originating from the waters that
apparently disappear beneath the Great Basin, the Nevada and Mojave
deserts?--could have 'fed' the water needs of all of Southern
California.
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The following excerpts are from Branton's SECRETS OF THE MOJAVE -
SECTION 2 & SECTION 3:
In 1962, a researcher by the name of Chuck Edwards released some
of his own discoveries concerning what might be referred to as the
'Western Subsurface Drainage Network', which seems to cover parts
of Utah, Nevada, and Southern California, where are located many
drainage systems which do not ultimately flow into the Pacific
ocean (via surface rivers, that is), but instead make their way
underground into a vast subterranean drainage network. His letter
appeared in issue A-8 of 'THE HIDDEN WORLD', one of the few
specialized publications which grew out of the Palmer-Shaver
controversy of 1940-45 which appeared in AMAZING STORIES science
fiction/science fact magazine. The `controversy' arose around Richard
Shaver's claim's to have inside knowledge of two subterranean races
which possessed aerial disks: the 'Deros' which have been variously
described as a race of ancient out-of-control Atlantean robots,
degenerate human troglodytes, or a race of reptilian non- humans (or
all three) who were at war with another much more benevolent (and
human) subterranean race known as the 'Teros'. The Deros were
allegedly tormenting those on the surface of the earth through
psychic attack and electronic mind control from their underworld
lairs, in preparation for a possible future invasion of the outer
world.
The answers to the aerial-subsurface mystery remained rather confused
during the 'AMAZING STORIES-Shaver Mystery' period, possibly because
of Shaver's perhaps well-intentioned but unwise attempt to inform the
readers about the world beyond and the world below through
science-fact-fiction stories (however, the readers were never clearly
instructed as to where the fact ended and the fiction began), or
because of editor Ray Palmer's attempts to 'occultize' many of
Shaver's stories with his own mystic-occult philosophies, which Shaver
accused him of doing.
So it was in the wake of this period that investigators like Mr.
Edwards' were born. Some of the researchers of this period delved
off into the metaphysical, seeking the answer to their questions from
'chan-eled' supernatural entities who tickled their egos, yet whose
intentions and revelations could not be physically substantiated. The
fact that many of these occultists ended up with severe emotional or
psychotic problems -- in essence seeing a 'Dero' under every bed and
degenerating into schizophrenic paranoid behavior -- would indicate
that the greater majority of their 'sources' were no doubt astral or
alien deceivers out to mislead these seekers after truth. Others
however retained their intellectual and analytical sanity and,
although not discounting the presence of e-il influences, did not
so easily open themselves up to their lies and misleading propaganda
but set out to investigate the phenomena in a rational, sane, and
intellectual manner. It is with this in mind that we quote from Chuck
Edwards' letter (Note: These comments are addressed in a letter to
Richard S. Shaver):

"This letter is in reply to your January 31 letter. Please forgive
me for not answering sooner. Enclosed is some material I hope that
you can glean something of value (from). Please be as candid as you
have been in the past and if I am far off base don't hesitate to
tell me...
"Our foundation has located a vast system of underground passages
in the Mother Lode country of California. (JW That's where I live
now.) They were first discovered in 1936, ignored by all even with
our best efforts to reveal them. Recently a road crew blasted out
an opening verifying our claims. ONE (of the chambers is) 200 feet
long, 70 feet wide and 50 feet high. We have disclosed what we
believe to be a vast subterranean drainage system (probably traversing
the Great American Desert country for a distance of more than 600
miles). We believe this system extends out like five fingers of your
hand to such landmarks as Zion Canyon in Utah, the Grand Canyon,
another runs south from the Carson Sink in Nevada and yet another
follows (below) the western slope of the same range, joining it's
counterpart and ending somewhere in the Mojave Desert. We believe,
contrary to orthodox geologists, that the existence of this
underground system drains all surface waters running into Nevada
(none, with the exception of the Armagosa runs out) and accounts for
the fact that it is a Great American Desert. The hairy creatures
that you have written about have been seen in several of these
areas. Certainly there has been much 'saucer' activity in these
parts. For two years I have collected material pertinent to these
creatures and if you have any opinions along these lines I would
appreciate hearing them.
"So much for now. I hope that I am still your friend. Much of
my time has been devoted (to) helping a farmer near Portland who
has made a fantastic discovery of incredible stone artifacts. He
has several tons of them. They predate anything yet found (or
accepted), let us say that for now. We are making slow but steady
progress in getting through the wall of orthodoxy. -
Chuck Edwards."
Several years ago, subsurface researcher Richard Toronto reprinted
a news article in his SHAVERTRON newsletter describing a Municipal
Water Director in Los Angeles. This official talked with a man who
said that he was hired by the gov-rnment to look for underground
water sources for Camp Irwin in California.
At one point the man and a partner came across an abandoned mine
and decided to follow it to the bottom. Near the bottom he was
surprised to discover an ancient earth-fault which was wide enough
for him and his companion to enter. They traversed this fault for
a good distance until they finally emerged into a huge river-cavern.
To his surprise he saw before him a crystal pure underground river
over a quarter of a mile wide which flowed through the passage and
out of sight.
Since learning of this incident the Municipal Water Director claims
to have 'discovered' at least five similar underground rivers. Some
of these have allegedly been die-traced and were found to emerge from
the continental slope below the surface of the oceans, and at least
one of them into the Gulf of California.
This might confirm the allegations made by one anonymous retired
N-vy officer that the Na-y has knowledge of a VAST system or
labyrinth of aqua-caverns which meander beneath the surface of
California and even into other western states, and that these watery
labyrinths exit out into the oceans via huge entrances in the lower
walls of the Continental Slope. (JW I believe you will find that
one of the entrances to the Pacific ocean exist about 10 miles MW
of Malibu, Calif. It is between the shore and a offshore Island.
This was pointed out to me by Mr. Stanley who was taking me, while
I was on his tour of the ruins of a 40,000 year old city called
Kalimu.) One of the more extravagant claims is that some of these
aqua-caverns are so large that they can be navigated by submarine,
and that one nuclear submarine on a secret mapping mission in
fact became lost within the maze and was never heard from again. Two
American nuclear submarines have disappeared without explanation in
the past, the U.S.S. SCORPION and the U.S.S. THRESHER. It is true
that one woman who claimed to have had a very strong emotional bond
with her husband who worked on the Thresher, insisted at the time
that she just 'knew' that her husband was still alive after the
'disaster'. She said that she and her husband had such a
spiritual-emotional connection that they always knew when the other
was in trouble (For information on the Nav-'s investigations of the
aqua-labyrinths via nuclear subs, etc., see: 'CALIFORNIA FLOATS
ON OCEAN?'; article in the March, 1980 issue of John J. Williams'
"REBEL MAGAZINE", which at the time was available from:
Consumertronics Co., c/o John J. Williams. Pres., 2011 Crescent Dr.,
P.O. Drawer 537., Alamogardo, NM 88310). The 'Thresher' incidentally
'disappeared' on April 10, 1963 with a crew of 129 men under the
command of John W. Harvey, USN.)

John F. Winston

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Subject: Underground Water Systems In Calif. And UFOs. Part 2.
Jan. 22, 2001.

After investigating the area around Dorr's Cave I came in contact
with a person on the Internet who had worked for several years trying
to open up Dorr's Cave. He was unsuccessful and after the death of
one of his workers, he decided to quite and moved away to another
state. He prefers to stay clear of Dorr's Cave for now and in the
future.

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Researchers Will Carson and Jeannie Joy interviewed the woman mentioned
above shortly after the disappearance. She said:
"...My husband was on the submarine Thresher when it disappeared. I
don't consider myself a widow. I don't believe my husband is dead. No,
it's not a matter of just not being able to believe it, to accept
reality; I just can't get over the conviction that he's still alive
somewhere. I love my husband very much. I know he loved -- loves me.
We were very close. We could always tell when something was wrong
with each other. Intuition, I guess. I should have felt something
the instant there was trouble, if he was really in serious trouble
and knew it -- a matter of life and death -- but I didn't."
"What do you believe really happened?" Carson and Joy asked the
attractive young woman.
"Most people think I'm crazy when I say this, but I believe the
Thresher was captured."
"By whom?"
"I can't say for sure, but there WAS a Rus-ian submarine spotted
near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220
miles off Boston harbor) -- only I can't imagine how even the
R-ssians could CAPTURE a vessel like the Thresher without leaving
the slightest evidence!"
John J. Williams' source, the retired Nav- officer (whose credentials
Williams verified), stated that "an eccentric billionaire" (Howard
Hughes!?) financed the false Thresher "recovery operation" to satisfy
the public and the media.
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The following additional details are taken from Banton's SECRETS OF
THE MOJAVE - SECTION 9:
William Halliday, in his book 'ADVENTURE IS UNDER- GROUND', records
an affidavit submitted by a Mr. Earl P. Dorr, describing vast caverns
he and an associate allegedly discovered and explored in Southern
California. Portions of the sworn testimonial are quoted below:
"...These caverns are about 250 miles from Los Angeles, California.
(JW It and an undergroud, vacant city are located directly under the
town called Cima, Calif. Pop. 1. The lady who runs the store doesn't
know anything about the underground city but she can direct you to
Dorr's Cave. I never did take the trouble to go over to the cave but
I did inscribe a polished granite grave stone that said that under this
spot at Cima, Calif. there is said to be an underground city. I looked
for the city more than once but never seemed to be able to find the
exact spot where it was reported to be, which was in the Clipper near
a place called Bonanza Springs which is near the small place called
Damby, Calif. and Cadiz, Calif.)
Traveling over state highways by automobile, the caverns can be
reached in a few hours.
"Accompanied by a mining engineer, I visited the caverns in the
month of May, 1927. We entered them and spent 4 days exploring them
for a distance of between 8 and 9 miles. We carried with us altimeters
and pedometers, to measure the distance we traveled, and had an
instrument to take measurements of distance by triangulation, together
with such instruments convenient and necessary to make observations
and estimations.
"Our examinations revealed the following facts, viz:
"1. From the mouth of the cavern we descended about 2000 feet. There,
we found a canyon which, on our altimeter, measured about 3000 to 3500
feet deep. We found the caverns to be divided into many chambers,
filled and embellished with the usual stalactites and stalagmites,
besides many grotesque and fantastic wonders that make the caverns one
of the marvels of the world.
"2. On the floor of the canyon there is a flowing river which by
careful examination and measurement (by triangulation) we estimated
to be about 300 feet wide, and with considerable depth. The river
rises and falls with the tides of the sea -- at high tide, being
approximately 300 feet wide, and at low tide, approximately 10 feet
wide and 4 feet deep. (Obviously this can only mean that, if this
account is true, the "source" of the river is an underground
reservoir large enough to be moved by the tides, "overflowing" into
the river during the high tides and "receding" at low tide -
Branton)
"3. When the tide is out there is exposed on both sides of the
river from 100 to 150 feet of black beach sand which is very rich in
gold values. The sands are from 4 to 11 feet deep. This means there
are about 300 to 350 feet of rich bearing placer sand which
averages 8 feet in depth. We explored the canyon sands a distance
of 8 miles, finding little variation in the depth and width of the
sands.
"4. I am a practical miner of many years' experience and I own
valuable mining properties nearby which I am willing to pledge and
put up as security to guarantee that the statements herein are true.
"5. My purpose of exploring the caverns was to study the mineralogy
in order to ascertain the mineral possibilities and actualities of
the caves, making such examination in person with my engineer
necessary to determine by expert examination the character and
quantity of mineral values of the caverns, rocks and sands.
"6. I carried out about 10 lbs. of the black sand and 'panned' it,
receiving more than $7 in gold. I sold it to a gold buyer who
offered me at the rate of $18 per ounce. 2 1/2 lbs. of this black
sand I sent to John Herman, assayer, whose assay certificate shows
a value of $2145.47 per [cubic] yard, with gold at $20.67 per ounce.
"7. From engineering measurements and observations we made, I
estimated that it would require a tunnel about 350 feet long to
penetrate to the caverns, one thousand feet or more below the present
entrance, which are some 3 miles distant from my property.
"8. I make no estimate of even the approximate tonnage of the black
sand, but some estimate of the cubical contents may be made for more
than 8 miles and the minimum depth is never less than 3 feet. They
are of varying depth -- what their maximum depth may be we do not
know. -- Sworn by E. P. Dorr., 309 Adena St., Pasadena, Calif.,
November 16, 1934." (JW Mr. Dorr has been dead now for many years, so
this address will not probably work anymore.)
It is interesting that the "source" of this river would be somewhere
within or beneath the great western desert of Utah-Nevada- California
where little surface water escapes by way of streams and rivers.
Halliday in his book also refers to a water-filled cave annexed to
Death Valley, known as "Devil's Hole", which according to some
sources rises and falls slightly with the tides! This may indicate
that certain underground water-courses below the Mojave Desert might
ultimately connect with extensive underground lakes or small
underground fresh-water seas. Whether this theory proves accurate or
not remains to be seen... after future adventurous 'Speleonauts'
make their way once again into Dorr's secret caverns and toward the
SOURCE of the 'alleged' underground river.
"Devil's Hole" itself contains a rare species of cave-fish found
no-where else in the world (at least nowhere that marine biologists
are aware of). It is reported that at least two divers disappeared in
this apparently 'bottomless' aqua-cave some years ago, leading
officials to put the cave under gov-rnment protection by making it
an extension of Death Valley National Monument -- much of which lies
well BELOW sea level. The existence of, or the possibility of the
existence of, such underground 'seas' beneath the California- Nevada
regions seems to be supported by other accounts.
During the 'Shaver Mystery' years Ray Palmer received a letter from
a reader describing Earl Dorr's cave. This letter stated that three
Paiute Indian boys had, with the help of a 'treasure map', extracted
$50,000 worth of gold from these caverns, which they kept in the
bank at Needle's, California.
Their project was halted when one of the boys slipped from one of
the lowest 'rock tiers' and di-d.
We will now quote from William R. Halliday's professional
observations of the claims made in Dorr's affidavit, as they appear
in his book 'ADVENTURE IS UNDERGROUND':
"...What is the gimmick?
"This was probably the question in the mind of every reader of the
CALIFORNIA MINING JOURNAL when this affidavit appeared in it's November,
1940, issue. The question still arises whenever a caver first hears the
remarkable story of this still more remarkable cave. Furthermore, the
answers to the other obvious questions are not those which might be
anticipated.
"'Is this just an imaginary cave?' No, the cave certainly exists. I
have been in it.
"'Did Dorr keep it's location secret?' No. Dozens, perhaps hundreds,
of people know it's exact location, high on the side of Kokoweef Peak
in the Mojave Desert.
"'Has anyone tried to find this river of gold?' Yes, indeed. The
prosperous Crystal Cave Mining Corporation owns the property. "'Then
what is the gimmick?' That's quite a tale.

John F. Winston

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Part 3 of 3.

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"The beginnings of the story of the cave of gold are shrouded in
the mists of the minds of old-timers. For a long time, prowling
prospectors have known of the existence of the wide mouth of a deep
cavern on the limestone flank of a peak which forms part of the east
face of IVANPAH VALLEY -- Kokoweef Peak. Even though only four
miles by dirt road from the highway between LOS ANGELES and LAS
VEGAS, the area was so desolate that, in the 1920's, weeks might
elapse without the passing of more than an occasional prospector and
his burro. The opening of the cavern was several feet in diameter
and the cave was obviously much larger farther down. There were
local stories that it was bottomless, although it took 'only a few
seconds' for a rock to strike 'bottom'.
"Then someone found a narrow crack leading to ANOTHER cave, high
on the east face of the peak. Maybe it was Dorr. The stories vary.
One version repeats the common story of two Indians with a treasure
map, which in this case was supposed to have showed the entrance to
the cave. Dorr was well known in the area, having a claim across
the valley, several miles southwest of Kokoweef Peak. Like any
experienced prospector, he certainly prowled every ledge of the
area. In any event, the new cave seemed even deeper than Kokoweef
Cave. Like at least seven other caves in California, it eventually
became known a Crystal Cave.
"Later, in 1934, another old prospector, Pete Ressler, was resting
near the bottom of the southwest slope of the barren peak. He idly
tossed a rock into a crack. To his surprise it rattled back and
forth for a long time until the sound died away into the depths. He
strapped his load on his burro and headed for Mountain Pass Station
for dynamite.
"'What do you think it is, Pete?' the men at the station asked him.
"'Quien sabe?' he shrugged.
"Pete's Spanish, however, was horrible. It sounded like 'Kin Savvy'
or 'Kin Sabe,' and this name stuck to the cave he dynamited open. It
wasn't much of a cave. It slanted downward, but was filled with
rubble (rubble from the dynamite blasts? - Branton) to a level not
far below the entrance. Old Pete dropped out of the story. Dorr is
the main character.
"Dorr must have been a strange person. No one else was particularly
interested in the caves, but soon he was telling of an enormous
cavern into which he was gradually making his way, trip after trip.
The main part of the cave was a series of vertical drops from one
small chamber to another. In several areas there were small, dry
pools which contained sharp little crystals. From one of the small
rooms a tight tunnel led a relatively short distance to a huge
cavern containing a chasm 3,000 feet deep. He told of a stalactite
1,500 feet long (Note: Both Kokoweef and Door peaks are near the
SW flank of the Ivanpah Mts., just south of Highway 91. Dorr alleged
that he and his engineer, following the upper rock 'tiers',
discovered a huge cataract or waterfall cascading down the side of
the 'canyon' below what they judged to be Dorr Peak. They allegedly
followed the upper 'shelves' for 8 miles. According to a map of the
caves drawn by Herman Wallace Jr., under the personal instruction and
supervision of Earl Dorr, the length of the 'stalactite' was given at
only 500 feet long -- although this would still make it the largest
"known" stalactite in the world at this writing -- and was located
adjacent to the underground waterfall which flowed into the
underground river at the bottom of the canyon as one of its many
tributaries. - Branton).
"The cavern went on for miles. He had walked to the brink of the
chasm, but had not found a way to it's bottom. There were places
where air came into the cavern, so other caves on the peak must
open into it. And there ought to be an entrance somewhere on his
claim, too. That was the direction the cave headed.
"Before long Dorr was claiming to have found a way down the wall of
the subterranean canyon. Down below the wonders were even greater. He
had found great deposits of placer gold. By this time he had the other
old-timers half convinced. Still, THEY weren't going into that
awful-looking hole for all the gold in the U.S. Mint.
"One day in 1928 Dorr again told his friends that he was going into
the cave for another trip. Two days passed, three, four. His friends
became worried.
Gold would not tempt them to go into the cave, but they were his
friends and the code of the desert is stern. Dorr might be trapped
there, hurt, dying. A rescue party climbed to the mouth of the cave,
where Dorr's ropes were still fixed.
"Hardly had they all entered the cave when they met a raging Dorr
they hardly know. Although disheveled and wild-eyed, he was obviously
in no need of rescuing. Nervously they shrank away from his needless
fury. Had he gone mad from his long stay underground? (More likely
it was the dreaded 'gold fever' which has affected the minds of men
throughout the centuries and has often motivated them to acts of
irrational cruelty - Branton) They were trying to help him, yet he
was accusing them of trying to steal his gold.
"Before they quite understood, they felt the dull impact of a
HEAVY charge of dynamite. Then Dorr calmed down. 'You'll never get
it now,' he smirked.
"'That blast finished the tunnel to the river of gold.' (Interesting
Note:
Halliday himself claims to have seen within this cave, along with
several National Speleological Society or NSS members, the name of
DORR written in black miner's lamp soot near what appeared to be a
black line left by a dynamite fuse, below which was a plugged area of
shattered rock - Branton)
"We do not know whether Dorr was ever convinced that his friends
were only trying to rescue him. For several years he was a familiar
figure in the Mojave Desert. Continually he attempted to persuade
people to run a tunnel into the cave of gold from the lower slopes
of Kokoweef Peak. He would go shares with them. If they were willing
to pay for the tunnel, they could have part of the profits.
"On this basis few investors were willing to consider the project.
Finally, however, a small group headed by a Los Angeles capitalist
was willing to speculate on Dorr's proposition. First, they tried
the easy expedients. Kin Sabe Cave was the most accessible. Dorr
thought it connected with the great chasm.
"They installed an inclined railway track and began to remove the
rubble which filled it. Before long they had quite a respectable cave,
125 feet deep, but the air in it was completely stagnant. Over Dorr's
protests, they abandoned the attempt. If there was an entrance to the
great cavern from Kin Sabe, it was too deep to bother with, at least
until all easier possibilities had been investigated.
"Next they turned their attention to Kokoweef Cave, the first
cavern discovered on the peak. A road was built to a nearby ledge and
a short tunnel was drilled, connecting the bottom of the cavern to
the surface of the peak. Again, much rubble was removed without
encountering the true bottom. Operations were in full swing when
someone discovered a mineral vein in the wall of the peak a few
dozen yards from the tunnel. It was zinc, and high- grade ore.
Because of the war zinc was at a premium. The Crystal Cave Mining
Company promptly went into the zinc business. Dorr was disgusted.
He abandoned the project. Occasionally someone would hear of him,
still telling his story of prowling the hills near his old claim,
still seeking another entrance to the cave of gold..."
According to 'Sasquatch Researcher' Virginia Louis Swanson, 'Devil's
Hole,' in Death Valley National Monument, NE of Death Valley Junction,
CA., has been the scene of at least one disappearance. According to
Swanson, two boys entered the cave several years ago and were never
seen again. N-vy scuba diver's were lowered on cables and reported
seeing a large river which roared up from below, flowing across a
wide expanse. They could not estimate it's depth because of a myriad
of colonnades of black rock through which the river flowed before
plunging once again down an abyss. The cave is somewhere NEAR
'Devil's Hole' (which is still open to public view, although 'fenced
in'), and was allegedly sealed shortly after the disappearance.
It is interesting that Vincent Bugliosi, in his book HELTER SKELTER
(pp. 232-233, 246) refers to Charles Manson, who believed that his
'mission' was to start a ra-e war called 'Helter Skelter', then
hide with his so-called 'family' in an underground area near the
Mojave Desert called the 'Bottomless Pit', and then emerge after
the 'war' was over and rule the world. One version states that the
Manson "family" had met with "strange people" out in the Mojave
desert. Was he "programmed"? Manson was also convinced that he
was Adolph Hitler's illegitimate son. (JW I personally sort of doubt
that. I once investigated Charles Mason's so-called hideout near
Death Valley. He was captured while hiding under a kitchen sink
in the kitchen. He surrendered without a fight. At lease that
is what the police say. He is still alive, in prison and won't come
to his parole hearing sessions. I wish him well and hope he doesn't
choose to get after me.)

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Part 3 of 3.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:32:33 -0800, "John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com>
wrote:

[...]

>"...My husband was on the submarine Thresher when it disappeared. I
>don't consider myself a widow. I don't believe my husband is dead. No,
>it's not a matter of just not being able to believe it, to accept
>reality; I just can't get over the conviction that he's still alive
>somewhere. I love my husband very much. I know he loved -- loves me.

http://thriveonline.oxygen.com/medical/depression/treatment/tca.html

John F. Winston

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Jan 24, 2001, 10:23:45 AM1/24/01
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Subject: Conversation With Art Martin. Jan. 23, 2001.

Yesterday I made a call to my friend Authur Martin. His friends
call him Art. Art used to be a psychologist and many times took
more than a year to get people back to normal. Now he says that he
can do the same thing in about 30 minutes.

A few years ago Art started going to a lot of seminars that explained
certain things and modalities that causes a person to be able to correct
certain abnormalities. One of the first ones was muscle testing which
has a long and complicated sounding name. With this a person uses
the strength of a person's arm to determine what they have wrong with
them. After finding out what the problem is then the same method can
be used in treating the person.

He also found that many times a person has an intelligence that tells
him to drive his car into the side of bridge. If a person follows
the intelligence then they would be killed. Art figured out how to
use entities on the other side of life to remove these entities and
have them sent to a place where they can be helped. After these
entities are removed then the person from whom they were removed will
get over all sorts of things.

Lately Art has met with Mike Siegel, (at a convention where Art
was a presenter), the present host of the Art Bell show. He would
like to be interviewed on the Art Bell show but he says he sent his
information into a lady in Oregon who determines who will be on the
show but she has never called him. Her name is Dalani and I would
appreciate it if she would contact me or contact Art Martin. I
would also like to get my friend by the name of Joseph Cater on the
show also. He is an expert on free energy and knows who he has
been in many past lives.

I hope that this lady by the name of Dalani will contact me by
e-mail and there is also a man who does this work also.

Art Martin will be giving a presentation or talk at the East West
Book Store in Sacramento, Calif this Friday (Jan. 26, 2001.) at
7:00 P.M.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Jan 25, 2001, 11:32:04 AM1/25/01
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Subject: The BBC And Depleted Uranium. Jan. 24, 2001.

Last week I was listening to one of the Community Radio Stations
when they put on some information from the British Broadcasing
Company (BBC). They were discussing the fact that the US is now
confessing that they put depleted uranium in the shells and bombs
that have been used by N-TO. This material is the afterproduct of
the Atomic Industry of the U.-. They said they like to use it
because it give them (U.-.) a good feeling when they go into battle.
It appears that this material is somewhat radioactive and will
stay that way for billiions of years, (it's half life, which is
the point when this radioactivity will decrease to one half of
it's original value is billions of years.
Not only do they say this but the atomic waste is heated to a
white hot temperature so that the uranium turns to lead which
is poisonous. The poison is release into the air. When they
told the US about this they said that if there was any problem
with this then the children that could be seen in the distance
while they were talking would be harmed while they were playing
in the nearby bombed out tank. It was found that the children
in the area had been affected by these things and were experiencing
much higher cases of can-er and luk-mia. The -.S. spokesmen
stated that they didn't plan to do anything about this situation
because we are not at the present time in any active war and
weren't at the time using the weapons with the atomic waste in
them.
We then told the investigating people that no radiation could
be found on the tanks and other things that were destroyed by
the atomic waste containing shells and bombs. This was probably
true due to the fact that the uranium was heated to a white hot
temperature and the uranium turned to lead and we, as a person on
the Earth, are now breathing this into our lungs.

Mike Siegel also talked about this same information while he
was the host of the Art Bell Show last week.

Here is some more information about the matter.


...................................................................
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From: S W
Subject: German official criticizes -.S. for uranium weapons in
Balkans
By AIDA CERKEZ-ROBINSON, Associated Press

SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina (January 20, 2001 10:10 p.m. EST
http://www.nandotimes.com) - German Defense Minister Rudolf Scharping
repeated criticism of the Un-ted Sta-es over depleted-uranium weapons
used in NA-O missions, suggesting Saturday that Washington has kept
information from its allies.

Speaking at a German base near the Bosnian capital Sarajevo,
Scharping said recent tests have shown the risk to German peacekeepers
in the Balkans from weapons containing depleted uranium is minimal.

But Scharping said he will "not be satisfied with pages of
information pulled out from the Internet," which he said "our
American friends" have offered as a response when asked for
information about the depleted-uranium munitions.

Scharping's two-day trip came amid concerns that illnesses among
peacekeepers serving in NATO-led missions in Bosnia and Kosovo could
be linked to weapons fired by the alliance -- primarily by U.-.
warplanes -- containing depleted uranium.

Australia is the latest country to announce testing of its troops
who served in the Balkans. The government announced Sunday soldiers
will undergo blood and urine tests to measure their possible exposure
to depleted uranium.

On Wednesday, Scharping demanded the Uni-ed St-tes come forward
with all the information it has on the depleted-uranium weapons and
initiated an investigation into whether they contain ca-cer-causing
plutonium, which is far more dangerous than uranium.

The Uni-ed St-tes was complying, but Germany's defense ministry said
Friday that it was still waiting to receive more files.

State Depart-ent spokesman Richard Boucher said the Un-ted Stat-s has
been open and clear about its use of depleted-uranium ammunition and
will continue extensive discussions on the issue.

Depleted uranium is a slightly radioactive heavy metal used because
of its ability to pierce armor. U.S. forces fired weapons containing
depleted uranium in Bosnia in 1994 and 1995, and N-TO used them in
its 1999 bombing campaign in Yugoslavia.

Scharping said Friday that U.-. A-my documents show there have been
numerous incidents involving depleted-uranium ammunition held by -.S.
troops stationed in Germany.

N-TO insists there is no scientific evidence linking c-ncer cases to
depleted uranium. Earlier this month, it rejected an appeal from Germany
and Italy to impose a moratorium on its use because there is no armed
conflict under way in Europe.
NAT- and many countries have ordered investigations into the level of
radiation around the ammunition as well as of sites where it was used.

German troops last week measured the level of radiation in a former
military compound near Sarajevo, where boxes with such ammunition were
found.

The results showed "the risk is minimal," Scharping said.

He also said that "so far there is not one indication plutonium is
really present" in the ammunition.

N-TO said Wednesday the organization had always accepted that there
were trace amounts of plutonium in depleted uranium but that the
plutonium caused almost no additional radioactivity, pointing to test
results reported by the Uni-ed St-tes last December.

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Jan 25, 2001, 11:34:07 AM1/25/01
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Subject: New Syndrome. Jan. 24, 2001.

Here is something that came down the pike yesterday.

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From: W D
Subject: But first...

But First Syndrome

Just wanted to let you know that I have recently
been diagnosed with a very serious condition and
there's no hope I will ever recover. The scientific
world is frantically searching for a cure. This is
an ailment many of us suffer from and may not as yet
have been diagnosed, however now you may be able to
discuss it with your loved ones and try to explain
what really happened to you all those times you tried
so hard to accomplish something and didn't. I call it
the 'But First Syndrome.'

You know, it's when I decide to do the laundry, I
start down the hall and notice the newspaper on the
table. OK, I'm going to do the laundry...BUT FIRST I'm
going to read the newspaper. After that, I notice the
mail on the table. OK, I'll just put the newspaper in
the recycle stack...BUT FIRST I'll look through that
pile of mail and see if there are any bills to be
paid.
Yes, now where's the checkbook?

Oops...there's the empty glass from yesterday on the
coffee table. I'm going to look for that checkbook,
BUT FIRST I need to put the glass in the sink.
I head for the kitchen, look out the window, notice
my poor flowers need a drink of water. I put the glass
in the sink, and darn it; there's the remote for the
TV on the kitchen counter.

What's it doing here? I'll just put it away...BUT
FIRST I need to water those plants. Head for door
and...Aaaagh! Stepped on the dog. Dog needs to
be fed. Okay, I'll put that remote away and water
the plants...BUT FIRST I need to feed the dog... End
of day:

Laundry is not done, newspapers are still on the
floor, glass is still in the sink, bills are unpaid,
checkbook is still lost, and the dog ate the remote
control...and, when I try to figure out how come
nothing got done all day, I'm baffled because... I
KNOW I was BUSY ALL DAY!

I realize this condition is serious...and I'd get
help...BUT FIRST...I think I'll check my email!

GEMS MAY BE PRECIOUS, BUT FRIENDSHIP IS PRICELESS!!!

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Jan 27, 2001, 1:17:35 AM1/27/01
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Subject: Articles About UFOs In A Web Site. Jan. 26, 2001.

Here is some information that a person sent me from a web site.
I threw out a few articles and they are marked with with dashes
like this -----------. Please don't ask me why I threw them out,
I just did. At least one of my postings is in the web site too.

.....................................................................
.....................................................................

From: DK
Subject: McGrew UFO Files
http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/ufo/
This directory is maintained by Charles McGrew
( mcg...@cs.rutgers.edu ) of the Rutgers LCSR/CF. It is intended to
aid researchers and students of the UFO phenomenon. Please note: I
make no guarantees about the truthfulness or accuracy of any of the
files contained herein (except ones written by myself, which I have
made every effort to keep accurate.) Do not jump to any conclusions;
in this game, you can't tell the players without a scorecard, and
the scorecard is classified! :-)

Filename Description
1122laco.ufo Notes from an 1989 interview of Bob Lazar. (JW I
think Bob Lazar is telling the truth about him seeing UFOs at Groom
Lake, Area 51.)
1209laz.ufo Transcript of a (different) 1989 George Knapp interview
of Bob Lazar.
1214hard.ufo Excerpts from a 1989 Chuck Harder interview bearing on
the Lazar case. (JW I've met Mr. Harder and interviewed him before.
He is a hard man to talk with and he doesn't have a very high opinion
of anyone that I know of. He'll tell you the truth and spit in your
eye you don't like it.)
1220laz.ufo Transcript of (yet another) interview with Bob Lazar.
3star.int "3 star" interview on crashed disks.
500000-year-old question and answer about the supposed
half-million-year-old artifact discovered in 1961 in California.
a-12.art Excerpts from a 1990 AvWeek article on "black" aircraft
aaas.doc Results of survey of aaas concerning UFO's.
a.a.v-faq The FAQ from the alt.alien.visitors newsgroup
a.a.v-mini-faq The Mini-FAQ from the alt.alien.visitors . newsgroup.
Both of these are kept up to date by Steve Gamble
(sga...@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk) (JW This is a very good web site to read
about once a month. It gives all sides of the UFO situation, even the
skeptics.)

abduct.aus Abduction cases in Australia
abduct_2.aus More on Australian abduction cases
abductions.cis Description of Soviet UFOlogist's talk at 1992 MUFON
symposium concerning abductions in what was the Soviet Union.
abductions.jacobs 1991 CBC interview with David Jacobs concerning
abductions.
abduction.psychology Psychiatric evaluations of abductees
abductions UFO Magazine article on Abductions
abductions.2 HUFON article on abductions
abductions.aus Australian abductions
abductions.books.councellors Reading list and councellors on abductions
abduction.categories A proposed classification system for abduction
events.
abductions.psychology Clinical Psyhologist's article on reactions of
people reporting being ufo-abducted.
admiral-hill-norton 1991 article on Admiral Lord Hill-Norton, a
"believer"
Air-Force-Cadet-Manual USAF Cadet manual for Physics 370 ("Space
Science" -- a course that seems not to be taught any longer, at least
with that reference number.) Chapter 33 - UFO's.
airships Short exchange over the "Great Airship Wave" of 1897.
afosr Overview of the USAF Office of Scientific Research
afosr-pnr USAF OSR Procurement Notices Report
afosr-projects Report on USAF OSR "External Aerodynamics and
Hypersonics" Project
al.bielek Interview with Al Bielek, concerning the "Philadelphia
Experiement"
alien.bases ORTN article on alien bases
alien-liason.review A review of Timothy Good's "Alien Liasons"
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aliens.crops Comments on 1991 crop formations
aliens.puerto 1991 sightings over Puerto Rio
aliens.soviet 1991 sightings over Khazakstan
alien.types Description of "Alien Types"
alien.types David House on types of alien beings (turns out there's
a bunch of 'em)
aliens.wwii UFO's during WWII
alien-bodies List of alledged alien bodies held by the US Gommint
(1947-1989)
aliens.more Misc. Postings by the (in)famous John Winston (JW I
read this and it's really is me.)
aliens.more.silly Comments on humanity's "reptilian past"
allagash Article concerning the abduction of four men in August,
1976, and their hypnotic-regressed memories of it.
alternative-3 Review of a book on "Alternative 3"
alterative-3.hoax A skeptical description of "Alternative-3"
ancient-indian.spaceships Posting regarding UFO's as ancient Indian
Flying devices.
anderson Article about Gerald Anderson
(of the I-found-dead-aliens-in-1947-fame) and Stanton Friedman's
belief in his story.
anti-blue-book A review of gov-rnment "non- investigations" of the
UFO phenomenon.
anti-grav Home-made "anti-gravity disks"
apollo-11 Purported radio-traffic from Apollo-11 of aliens on the
moon aquarium More stuff on the "Aquarium Conspiracy"
aquarium.eschatology The "Aquarium Conspiracy", PSI-Tech, the
"Aviary", you name it, its in here somewhere...
area-51 Misc. traffic about "Area 51" and "S4"
area-51.sights A tour of the Area 51 area. (say what?).
argus.report Article describing the "Argus Report" regarding Crop
Circles.
army-n-ufos.july.1947 UPI Article from St. Louis Post- Dispatch on
July 3, 1947 describing the Army as "mystified" about UFO's in western
states.
army-n-ufos.july.8.1947 July 8 UP and AP articles describing what the
Army Air Forces, Navy (and a Mr. Dunbar) are saying about the 1947 UFO
"wave".
A51-picts-README Description of pics Area-51-pics
A51-bigsign.gif This is the warning sign on the Area-51-pics north
side of Groom Lake Road telling you to go away.
A51-device.gif where Groom Lake Road enters the Area-51-pics
Restricted Area.
A51-littleALeInn.gif The Little A"Le"Inn roadhouse, motel,
Area-51-pics and diner. (JW Been there and done that.)
A51-map.gif Map of the Tikaboo Valley which Area-51-pics includes
Area 51, Rachel, the Black Mailbox, and Groom Lake. (JW It looks about
like any other mail box to me.)
A51-panorama.gif Four photographs taken at the Black Area-51-pics
Mailbox location on NV-375.
A51-security.gif I was met by an unmarked olive-drab Area-51-pics
Chevy full-size pick-up driven by a man dressed in desert fatigues.
No go-ernment markings were on the truck, and it had Nevada plates.
A51-smallsigns.gif More signs on the south side of Groom
Area-51-pics Lake Road telling you to go away.
ashtar "Telepathic Communication" concerning "universal truth
concepts"
ashtar-tell-all "Channeled" comments on things 'soon to be
revealed by the gover-ment'
assault A theological analysis of Whitley Streiber's first book
astronaut-sightings Collected sightings of US astronauts
astronauts US Astronaut sightings
astronomers Survey of aaas members concerning ufos
tk-majic Another view of MJ-12/Majestic/Majic etc.
aurora Article on "Aurora" aircraft
aurora Some more recent traffic on the purported "Aurora" aircraft.
authentic-spook Paul McGinnis discusses how to find what doesn't
want to be found.
ball-lighting Excerpts from July, 1993 Discover Magazine article
concerning possible explainations for the phenomenon of "ball
lightning".
bama "BAMA" sightings
barry.goldwater transcript of US Senator Goldwater's UFO-related
comments during a 1988 radio interview
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bbs-list MUFONET bbs listing
beckley.mib A review of Tim Beckley's "The UFO Silencers: Mystery
of the Men in Black".
belgium Article on Belgian UFO sightings
belgium.1990 Translation of a Belgian Air Force report on UFO
sightings on March 30-31, 1990
belgium.air-force Article on the Belgian sightings and the
cooperation between UFO groups and the Belgian Air Force to
investigate them
belgium.sobeps SOBEPS report on Belgian sightings
belgufo1.jpg Purported picture of the triangular images UFO seen in
Belgium recently.
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bib Another UFO bibliography
biefeld-brown Long exchange over the possibility of antigravity
'drives'.
bill.cooper Article on Bill Cooper and John Lear
bill.cooper.2 More on Bill Cooper
bill.cooper.3 More on Cooper and Lear
bill.cooper.4 More on Bill Cooper (parts 1-3 in don.allen directory)
bill.cooper.5 More on Bill Cooper
bill.cooper.6 More on Bill Cooper
bill-cooper.new More Cooper. More Project-names for the masses!

bill.cooper.more.more.more More Cooper. *More* Project-names for
the masses! (JW I've met Bill Cooper personally and he doesn't trust
anyone. I believe it can be said that he is even more paranoid that
I am. Stangely enough, I like Bill, but then I even like Lucifer.)

bill.english Article on Bill English
Bill-English-bbs Announcement of a (for profit) UFO BBS run by Bill
English

billy.meier Billy and the Pleiadians (JW I think a person should
read everything that has been written by and about Billy M., because
I blieve he is telling the truth).

black.programs Article on secret ("black") US Gummint programs
bob.lazar Interview transcript from a KLAS interview
Bob-Lazar.gif The face of the man himself. Groom-Lake
bob.oechsler The Carp Case, Bob Oechsler, and all that.
bob.oechsler.interview Transcript of an interview of Bob Oeshsler
on the UK's Radio 1.
book-list H. S. Stewart's UFO Book List
bluebook.txt The "unknowns" of Project Bluebook's report, compiled
by Don Berliner
brazil Concerning the "Chupa wave" in Brazil.
build.ufo "How to build a Flying Saucer" by T.B. Pawlicki
calif-underground-bases HUFON article on Underground Bases
canada.1992 Canadian UFO Survey, 1992
canada.1993 The 1993 Canadian UFO Survey
canadian-archives A survey of UFO sources to be found in Canadian
Governmental archives.
canadian-files Article describing how official Canadian UFO
investigation (the National Research Council, specifically) files
have been mouldering in the national archives.

John F. Winston

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Jan 29, 2001, 1:29:39 AM1/29/01
to
Subject: City Becoming Visible Off Florida Coast. Jan. 28, 2001.

Here is something that is becoming visible off the coast of Florida.
Some of this information towards the end of the first article is
channeled material so don't read it if you hate that sort of things.
If you can't believe this to be factual then just look on it as
fantasy.

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.....................................................................

From: l C
Subject: The City of the Ancients
To Answer: The City of Ancients has arisen. It has come at this time
to co-locate itself in precise geophysical pattern for Transmission of
LIGHT and LOVE to this place, in this time. You ask if it is Atlantis
--- an immediate response to its design of pillars and pyramids as it
surfaced from beneath the waves. Oceanic phenomenon observed.
Formation observed. Light waves observed. Crystal formations observed.
Atlantis was not a singular city --- yet within its great body, this
structure existed. Housing vast libraries and places of learning, it
was adored by many for its order, beauty and dedication to the
liberation of man and planet by LIGHT. It is as it was, a conclave of
LOVE and LIGHT. You may call it any name you like. We, who speak,
prefer the City of Ancients, for we are ancient, indeed.
In early November, 2000, the founders of Higher Path, J D and
S B, discovered what they thought to be an "energy vortex"
during a night-time walk on a public beach in Vero Beach, FL. Over
the next few weeks, they took three other persons to visit this
"vortex" and provide third-party input about individual perceptions
and experiences. Each visit was characterized with observations of
physical and psychic phenomenon -- ranging from golden light visibly
seen under the water at the surf's edge and miles of light radiating
upward from the ocean surface off-shore to sighting hundreds of
etheric beings crowding the beach -- sometimes shoulder-to-shoulder.
One evening, in late November, a small group watched from the beach as
the City broke the surface approximately 2 miles off-shore. The first
reaction was incredulousness followed by a mutually-voiced decision
that it must be Atlantis -- because visible -- in the center -- was
a HUGE crystal tower from which colored light emitted in horizontal
and vertical bursts, often visible to the naked eye. Clearly visible
to the "third eye".
Since then, D and B have visited the Beach almost daily --
watching the progress as the City moves. Around December 20, it made
landfall when equally spaced etheric pyramids <visible to the naked
eye as shimmering energy fields formed as pyramids> appeared on the
beach. Since then, it has been moving inland at a steady rate. As
of January 8, 2001 it has been seen to extend approximately 8 miles
south, 10 -12 miles north and 7 -10 miles offshore -- where another
tall crystal pyramid is intermittently spotted with the naked eye.
The Spirit Beings appear as shimmering or ghostly forms -- often
materializing for an instant or two. They range from human size to
towering heights -- several hundred feet tall. At times, hundreds of
them fill the beach to overflowing. When in their midst, one feels an
overwhelming sense of safety, comfort and quiet happiness.
DeCarlo and Byrd have been told the City is moving inland -- further
than they know -- as it moves to its designated location, which is
unknown at this time. The beach-area appears to change its landscape
every few days -- one day feeling like a wide pedestrian mall,
crowded shoulder-to-shoulder -- then a change to a less populated area
bordered by darker, smaller pyramids in a fence-like row -- followed
by another change to more population intermixed with pyramids.
The channel transmissions began on January 4, 2001 with instructions
to publicize the City and the channeled information to as many people
as possible, as quickly as possible -- hence, the construction of this
web site as the fastest vehicle to perform this task.
The January 12 channel session included several pages of answers --
given to provide information about the obvious questions that had
formed in the minds of the founders. The following is all that has
been given to date (01/15/01) about the Beings who are transmitting
and the City:
To Answer: This Group of Speakers, at this time, numbers 27 if viewed
as so shown in realms of separated consciousness or distinguishable
voices <for your ears>. Some are of angelic realms, some of galactic
region, some associated with Greater Consciousnesses than will be
described herein. Each of varying vibration rate -- each charged with
a purpose for transmission. We assign no names, no personality or
status -- for we do not wish to further glamour already associated with
names and titles used to give credibility where none is needed.
Our statement is this: Listen through your Heart Center. Absorb that
which is true for you. Reject that which is not. It matters not.
Our purpose is to transmit this information --- in this place, in this
time. Words ring true in the hearts of those for whom it is
intended. Not all words are intended for everyone. Some words are
intended for your brother. It matters not. You will hear that which
is intended for you. Your brother will hear what is intended for him.
This page last updated: 01/19/01
Bookmark this page! Higher Path is evolving daily as information
transmissions shed more LIGHT on Purpose and Plan. Check frequently
for updates as information about the City of Ancients is added to this
section.
Copyright 2001 - All Rights Reserved -
HigherPath.org
Vero Beach, FL, USA
email: in...@higherpath.org
http://www.higherpath.org/city.htm

John Winston john...@mlode.com

................

From: l C
Subject: More Cities of LIGHT

CITIES OF LIGHT!!
A few "excerpts."
Most of you will love the "supportive" data contained in this forward
from the "speaker 27" listl #2. I did delete whatever duplicates that
I spotted to shorten the length of this email***LIGHT and LOVE***M

Von: spea...@egroups.com <spea...@egroups.com>
Datum: 25 January 2001 17:05
Betreff: [speaker27] Digest Number 2

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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Message: 1

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:10:41 -0000
From: "I " <IraBBelt3@
I live in Palm Bay, up the road just 30 or so miles. I also would
like to check this out, maybe a get together, perhaps.
Just name the time and place to schedule.
Weird that the paper/radio stations don't pick up on this exciting
site!
Well, later.
I
............

Message: 3

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:03:23 -0600
From: G F

Subject: Fourteen Etheric Cities of the Earth

Hello all, G F here. I am amazed at the interconnecting events
that have been unfolding lately. This Etheric city that is interfacing
with our 3-d reality is an incredible event and I am happy to be on
board to experience it. Below is some more information I found that
relates to this occurrence. In the light, G:

Fourteen Etheric Cities of the Earth

The Fourteen Etheric Cities are real cities in the Etheric Realm of
our planet Earth, located over seven deserts or continents and over
seven large bodies of water. Certain Ascended Masters and Divine
Beings and sometimes some unascended beings serve in these Etheric
Cities in between embodiments.
Light Rays are projected from there to the Earth for specific
purposes; such as dissolving epidemics specific and accumulating
destructive forces and also Light Rays are projected into the
consciousness of mankind.
(more on sites below)
http://www.ascension-research.org/14cities.html
http://laplaza.org/~luvdoves/gw.html

"Thirty miles from Santa Fe, last week, we stopped the automobile,
pulled over to the side of the ancient cliff dwellings where
earthlings have lived for thousands of years and watched the Mother
Ship hover for about twenty minutes.
Then a smaller craft appeared from beneath the Ship and we could hear
a distant, audible sound becoming louder and clearer. It was
the voice of our beloved Kadar MonKa who began telling us about the
city": (JW Monka is one of my favorite space person. I first heard
about him the book called "Star Wards" by Richard Miller. He is
definitely one of the good guys.) "There is a lush paradise where
the blessed dwell, where only the pure in heart may enter. This
place knows not suffering, aging, need, poverty, loneliness, hunger,
war, greed nor crime. It is a veritable oasis where no solitary
instance of a negative deed has ever transgressed its realm. This
place can be equated to Mount Olympus, Shambhalla, Shangri-La,
Avalon, or any other place which mortals have dubbed as 'the dwelling
of the G-ds,' for indeed, that is exactly what this place is - a
dwelling of Ascended Beings, Go-s and G-ddesses, Extraterrestrials
by all means, only of goodly design."

Later Kadar MonKa personally took us up in his scout ship, for a
tour of the Sangre de Cristo etheric city. We saw many old friends
and relatives and were reminded once more what it feels like to
be really healthy. We saw many who appeared to be in their thirties
but were known to be well advanced in years. Most of them wore
simple robes and long flowing hair. They were beautiful and perfect
in every way. These Great beings possessed vast supernatural powers,
with great spiritual knowledge, supreme technological abilities,
everything the Earth once had, and is heading to.

The city is invisible as it is made of subtle etheric web- like
substance. Being there is like constantly receiving magical elixirs
and special potions as well as gifts of every imaginable design.
Everything appears to be one beautiful transcendent, omnipotent
existence. Jade and precious jewels line both sides of the streets,
constantly giving natural energies to all who glide by. The
trees look like crystals of different shapes and colors. Pegasus and
unicorns live here with a whole legion of fairies, gnomes and
other members of the Middle Kingdom. The SpacePort admits travelers
from all over the Omniverse. We witnessed at least 35 different
types of star crafts coming and going.

JW Sounds like a nice place to go.

John F. Winston

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Subject: City Becoming Visible Off The Florida Coast. Part 2.

Here are some more people who are seeing this city.

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Lady Aphrodite (JW I might add that she is one of the characters
that appears on the TV show called "Xena, Warrior Princesss".)
approached us and spoke: "Return to our earthling brothers and
sisters, and remind them of what you have seen here again. For your
spir-ts have come from these realms and so have many of those now
serving on the Earth. So too, is it the destiny of all humankind to
dwell in a place like this. We all work for the day when all of
creation on earth will bask in paradise cities like these."
(Galactic Messenger)
http://www.sonic.net/~owfc/
:
http://users4.cgiforme.com/alyra/messages/4.html

G F wrote:
Well, good news here!

The Cities of Light are already here! They are like
matrices/holograms beneath the surface of this planet. They are Mother
Earth's Vision for the future Earth in the fifth dimension. These
holograms are fifth dimensional Divi-e structures.

The influences of these Cities of Light can already be felt. As this
planet and a particular town move up in development, hence closer
to the matrix of the City of Light, its influence can be felt more.

Many Lightworkers in the Netherlands resonated to this idea and
started working on bringing these holograms to the surface, so the
'3D' cities will be flooded with Light!

Every city on Earth has a city of Light underneath it, and
'activating' it, means you help accelerating the awareness and
development of that town.

Email to J, running the Dutch newletter called the Shield of The
Command, and she can tell you what you can do yourself, if you
would like to 'activate' your city of Light!

jillvan...@cable.a2000.nl

Cities have also been activated in Belgium, Germany and France.
Good Luck!

G and A
Ashtar Lightwork Center

X Does anyone know when the cities of light are going to be here? What
will be the way we will know?

http://worldoflight.com/cityoflight.htm

CITIES OF LIGHT(COMMUNITIES)

CITIES OF LIGHT-As soon as all Earth changes have taken place and
humans have been transformed into multi-dimensional beings; humankind
will start building Cities of Light and love.

The etheric blueprint of the cities of light will be in the higher
ethers over certain selected cities on Earth. The blueprint is like
a huge wheel, with a hub as a center, and spokes of light leading out
from the hub. Great broad avenues of light leading out from the
hub, with structures, such as healing temples, schools of spiritual
enlightenment and buildings of commerce. Between these spokes
of the wheel, will be adjoining streets, that will be for housing,
parks and community recreational activities.

As the physical area of the city becomes filled with light, the
physical and etheric cities will move closer to each other and finally
overlap one another. The gates then will be opened to walk on to the
streets in the City of Light and one can enter into the schools
of learning, healing temples, relax in the park, and enjoy the many
types of recreational activities and foods being offered.

http://home.earthlink.net/~waynemoody/cities.html

Cities of Light are made in the image of Man

Creating the new cities of light for the next millennium will
require a shift in our group consciousness. This shift is toward
the realization that we are multidimensional beings and that our
physical reality is nothing more than a holographic projection of
our consciousness. Light becomes the conscious medium of our
expression as well as the source of our energy
:
Hi M!
Vero Beach is located approx. 100 miles south of Cape Kennedy and
100 miles north of Palm Beach along the Atlantic Ocean. It is a small
beachfront community in Indian River County <population county-wide
about 100,000>. Nearest large cities are Melbourne to the N, and Ft.
Pierce to the S.

Thanks so much for your support and encouragement! Higher Path
is an exciting adventure for us all -- and we look forward to keeping
everyone updated with the latest news and channeled info on the web
site.

S B -- Higher Path
:
Message: 6

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:17:06 -0000
From: "M H
Subject: Hello everyone!
Hi,
My name is M H
I think it is great to see this kind of positive response to this
event. I have felt for a long time things changing in the world
around us. These are often more perceived than seen. It wasn't
until I was home on leave over Christmas (I am currently serving in
the Marine Corps), when my Mom and J brought me down to the beach
to see what was happening.

I was amazed at the overall sense of calm that came over me while
down there. Out over the ocean, about 2 miles out, I could see four
white pyrimids, just the outlines with my normal vision. The beach
itself had an almost crowded feeling, with so many beings down
there. I could feel them all around. From time to time, I could
even see them moving around, only for about a split second out of the
corners of my eyes, but still there.

The water itself was glowing with a pale radiance, all the way up to
the shore.

There was such a sense of familarity about walking down there. I
remarked to Mom and J at one point about walking surrounded by "old
friends".
Anyway, this is definitely worth checking out.
Take care everyone and be at peace.
-M

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Jan 30, 2001, 9:49:33 AM1/30/01
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Part 3 of 3.

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Message: 7

--- In spea...@egroups.com, "I" ...> wrote:
I live in Palm Bay, up the road just 30 or so miles. I also would
like to check this out, maybe a get together, perhaps. Just name the
time and place to schedule. Weird that the paper/radio stations don't
pick up on this exciting site!
Well, later.
I

:
S WRITES:
Hi I!
For now, we are trying to handle physical visits in groups because
there is too much to share and not enough time available for one-on-
one's. This was the inspiration behind the Weekend Seminars, which
combines visit and tour with information sessions. The first of these
is scheduled for March.
:
In the meantime, a few local residents have asked us to put together
a group meditation on the beach at the City area <as we call it> --
which we will schedule once the weather warms up again <so much for
being in sunny FL with wind chills in the 30's at night!> Check
events on the web site and here for a message about when and where.
This will probably be within the next 2 weeks or so.
In the meantime, take a drive down to Wabasso Beach -- A1A and
SR512. We were there about 2 weeks ago scouting how far north and
south we "saw" pyramids and Beings. Our estimates as of Jan. 12 or
so are posted on the site. Pyramids were on the beach area at that
time. The spirit Beings went as far north as Sebastian Inlet and as
far south as Avalon Beach on A1A <No. Hutchinson Is>.

Keep us posted on what you see and sense.
Love and Light to YOU.
S B

Message: 8

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:30:36 -0000
From: s
Subject: Re: Cities of Light

Hi G!
Thanks so much for posting helpful information on Etheric Cities.
Sometimes it is like being in another dimension when we visit the
City here. It feels like it is becoming almost physical with each
passing day. Yet, there we are -- standing on the beach in very
familiar territory -- always surrounded by shimmering angels of
varying heights and numbers -- in an almost transluscent landscape
that changes from day to day as the City is moving inland.

A bit disconcerting -- parking the car in the midst of a
big "etheric" pyramid -- but that's how it is right now :-)))

Never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine that I would watch a
city rise out of the ocean -- like a submarine splashing to the
surface -- and then drift inland to line a city street with
pyramids! Is comforting and WONDERFUL to know this is happening
elsewhere.

Light and Love to YOU!
S B
-- In spea...@egroups.com, G F wrote:
http://users4.cgiforme.com/alyra/messages/4.html

http://worldoflight.com/cityoflight.htm

CITIES OF LIGHT(COMMUNITIES)

http://home.earthlink.net/~waynemoody/cities.html

require a New Paradigm shift in our group consciousness. This shift is


toward the realization that we are multidimensional beings and that
our physical reality is nothing more than a holographic projection
of our consciousness. Light becomes the conscious medium of our
expression as well as the source of our energy

Message: 9

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:38:18 -0000
From: "M R"
Subject: Atlantis Rising...
Hello!
I have a little corner at http://www.bodyreadings.com
I have suggested to my posters on my message board to check the
Higherpath site. We stumbled on the site because we did a meditation
on line and things starting to surface, like meaning of the number
13 and the Zodiac Signs, are there only 12 in reality???, Asking if
Mu, Lemuria, and Atlantis were maybe under ice at the South pole.
All these questions led me to the Higher Path and I immediately
recommended my members to check and book mark for future follow up.
And I must say, I also have seen strange things in the sky which seem
to be reflecting from the earth or ocean, ( like gigantic
columns ).
I Am truly looking forward to future discoveries and updates in this
site.Luv Ya!
M R

Message: 10

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:40:38 -0000
From: "M R"
Subject: Vero Beach

Message: 11

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:41:33 -0600
From: G F
Subject: Cities of Light

Subject: Re: Cities of Light
Hello S, Glad to meet you and you are so very welcome. I always try
to find connections between different forms of knowledge and events. My
inner radar has been going bonkers for the last month or so. Telling me
that great events and happenings are on the edge of awareness. There is
a fresh, new, world and a new awareness being born within mankind and
anything that we can do to help the process we should do. Look for more
connections to be made as this unfolds. I await with much anticipation
for further developments. In light and love, G

Message: 12

Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:01:44 -0000
From: s
Subject: Vero Beach
Vero Beach is located off I-95 -- about 1 hour South of Cocoa Beach,
FL.
Our most recent sightings of pyramids, structures and Light Beings of
all shapes and sizes have shown the City spreads from about 5 - 7
miles south of Vero and North about 10 - 12 miles to the Sebastian
Inlet.
In Light and Love
S

Message: 13

Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:08:42 -0600
From: G F

Subject: Web Cam of Vero Beach and interactive map

Hello all, below is an interactive map that you can zero in on the Vero
Beach area. G

http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/mqfreeconnect?

This is a web cam of (Conn Beach) in Vero Beach, updated every 10
minutes. I don't know how far it is from the actual location. In the
light, G
:
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/2132/

Message: 14

Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:12:09 -0800
From: m
Subject: Greetings
:
Hi D, and all you wonderful Light servers out there.
Nice to see you here D, I thought the same thing as you, but I made
time for it, because THIS resonates very very deeply within me, and
I am excited to see who else is gonna end in here. LOL LOL
So much love and true Light.................M

John F. Winston

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Subject: Art Martin's Book. Jan. 31, 2001.

After contacting Art Martin by phone, I asked him to send me a bio.
of himself so that I might get him on the Art Bell Show. He sent me
a lot of very good information about himself and also one of his
books. The book is called Your Body Is Talking; Are You listening?
by Art Martin, D.D., M.A.

I then asked if the book is only in Metaphysical type bookstores.
He then told me that the book can also be bought in the large chain
type bookstores even if they have to order it for you.

The book contains some very controversial type ideas that may take
us hundreds of years to believe such as the old saying that the
Earth is round or the Sun doesn't come up but the Earth rotates and
it appears that the Sun comes up.

Remember that I have a great respect of the med-cal industry
because they pulled me through a lot of things in the past.

Here is some backqround information about Art Martin from his
book that he sent me.

Preface

It is 1978, and I am surrounded by thirteen women in a healing
workshop. (The nineties have seen a major upsurge in participation
by men as more men allow their feeling and emotions to surface.) I
have just discovered the body\mind connection and realized that all
dysfunction originates in the mind. This revelation will lead me
to form my basic theory on illness and disease: that disease exists
only if the mind allows it to infect the body, that disease is a
creation of the mind, and that just as quickly as it allows disease
and illness to be created, the mind can heal the result of disease.

I have just run headlong into a controversial area that is not
accepted by do-tors and med-cal research people, let alone the
general public. However, I cannot prove my hypotheses since I
have no documented evidence. Over the next two decades, I will
amass documentation that proves that every illness, disease, physical
and mental dysfunction is controlled by programs in the mind. I will
discover that there are no limitations, that anything can be
corrected and healed, including genetic defects that one is born
with, that every dysfunction is a lesson being presented to you.
Are you listening to the message?

The body\mind is a delicate, awesome machine that operates on a
very rigid protocol, as does a computer. The computer jargon,
"garbage in, garbage out," means that if erroneous data is fed in,
the output will also be wrong. Similarly, every word our mind picks
up is sensory input to its "database," and our mind interprets this
input and places a value on the feeling or emotion before it files the
information. How sure can we be that this input is accurate?
The results of addictions, mental dysfunction, pain, illness and
disease can be traced back to earlier emotional trauma and how we
were treated by our primary caregivers. Regardless of who this person
was, you as a child had every right to be nurtured with love and
affection. If you were not showered with unconditional love and
acceptance, you felt rejected and abandoned. If this behavior
continued, then you began to feel as though you were not acceptable.

Such programming may even have begun in the womb. My research has
shown that three out of five children are rejected before they're
even born. Of course, the parent may not consciously have rejected
the child, or know that the fetus was picking up their thoughts,
attitudes, interpretations, feelings and conversations. Few realize
that a fetus can record and recognize communication about or directed
at them. After the baby is born, it may not consciously understand
all the communication it picks up, but its mind still interprets
the data based on the programs already in its database. The
auto-pilot is operating at high efficiency.

My personal journey revealed that my 17 years of 24-hour pain were
caused by in utero and childhood programming. In 1978, when for the
first time I was without pain, I was amazed to discover its source.
But releasing the associated emotional trauma would prove to take 15
years. Having suffered cruelly for over 20 years, I know what pain
is. I know that we set it all up. Prompted by my lengthy recovery,
I developed a process that decreases healing time by a factor of 20.
But why would people do this to themselves in the first place? This
book answers that question.

Most of us do not listen to the messages we get from our body.
So, as a result, it breaks down and we wonder why. Then, when we
feel pain or are sick, we run to the "body mechanics," specialists
trained to handle dysfunction, illness and today's diseases. Is
this a good thing? I do not think so. Look at their track record.
Has me-ical research found the causes and developed a cure for
disease?

We spend incredible amounts each year on ca-cer research, yet have
we found a cure? No, nor will we. A-DS, for example, is about total
rejection of self. It is a non-selective immune system disorder, yet
researchers think they can stop it with drugs. They poison people's
bodies with chemotherapy, hoping the "Cure" will kill the invading
virus before it kills the patient. Is this the way to heal people?

AI-S patients need love and forgiveness, not drugs that suppress the
symptoms. The medi-al profession does not teach love and forgiveness.
It teaches fear --fear that there is no way out, but if you have
money or insurance, they will treat the symptoms for you. I have a
totally different outlook, however.

Much about health, healing, disease and illness is simply not
true. For example, most people accept that disease is hereditary,
passed from generation to generation. This is patently false. Another
myth is that there are contagious diseases. In fact, there are only
contagious people, who will set themselves up to contract disease.

The myths stem from research by the Med-cal establishment. Illness
and disease do exist -- that is not debatable. The question is, why
do they exist? Will med-cal researches come up with a cure in the
future? I don't think so. The may come up with better ways to
suppress the symptoms, but I don't think they will ever be able to
eradicate disease, at least not with drugs and surgery.
My research has proved that each cell has its own blueprint that
allows it to regenerate perfectly when the limitations that cause
it to malfunction are removed. Each cell reproduces daily. Wounds
and cuts heal without outside help. Yet why is it that some people
have limited healing, while others heal much more quickly? I contend
that it's all based on the limitations we place on ourselves.

Our mind controls our resistance to disease, and this sets the
stage for a breakdown in our immune system. Viruses and
disease-causing agents exist in us and around us 24 hours a day, and
when our resistance is low, we are susceptible to attack by virus
and bacteria.

Diseases such as ashma or diabetes are cause by old programs. Clear
the programs and the beliefs, and you clear the disease. Clearing
does not just mask the symptoms but eliminates the program that drives
the dysfunction.

Today, the m-dical establishment is worried that overuse of
antibiotics is leading to resistant strains of bacteria and viruses.
In fact, this has already happened with tuberculosis, and in England
today, TB is a veritable 20th century plague. If we keep trying to
sidestep the lesson, this trend will increase, You cannot fool your
mind. "Disease is caused by denial of a lesson. If we deny the
lesson and try to sidestep it with an antibiotic to control or stop
the symptom, the mind will find a way to render the drug ineffective
and unable to control the symptom so that you must deal with the
lesson.

People who have a healthy diet and outlook on life are less
likely to contract illness. However, a good diet will not protect
you from disease. It may help. but the mind controls the creation
and the healing of disease. If we are able to release the programs
that cause self-rejection and feelings of abandonment, along with
the "I'm not alright? syndrome", we find that these people seldom
accept sickness in their life. It is the acceptance of the dysfunction
that cause the disease syndrome to begin. We could call it a "mind
trip," since we have to accept that it is possible to contract disease
before our body can create the symptom.

Through twenty years of research I have developed a therapy process
described as Neuro\Cellular Repatterning that reveals any dysfunction
and triggers healing. This book describes what true healing is, and
how spi-itual psychology combined with N\CR therapy process can help
in clearing up physical and emotional dysfunction. Medical research
terms the process "psychoneuro-immunolgy." (It's typical of the
m-dical profession to tack a very complicated name to this process.
I often wonder if they understand what it really is, but at least
I'm thankful that they now recognize that the mind and body are
connected.)
Therapy must use the integrated body\mind connection, plus a
spi-itual component to balance the total picture. Healing will
happen when the mind and the body are aligned with the goal of
wellness and responsibility is reclaimed. The cause of all
dysfunction is lack of love and avoidance of responsibility for
self. We have the answers in this book.

Art Martin,
8300 Rock Springs Road
Penryn, CA 95663-9620.

John F. Winston

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Subject: Are Your Predecessors Reptilian? Jan. 31, 2001.

In the past I have listened to R. A. Boulay give a lecture about
Reptilians over in the San Francisco Bay area., I've bought his book,
lost his book, then someone on the Interest send me
his book, then I found his book again in my garage and sent the book
back to the person on the Internet. I guess this is a sign to show
me that I'm supposed to post something from his book, so here goes.

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From: R S
Subject: SERPENTS & DRAGONS
A N N O U N C E M E N T
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS By R.A. Boulay
____________________________________________________________
GREETINGS FROM APOLLONIUS.NET
This Announcement is to inform you that the marvelously
spell-binding, historically breath-taking and scientifically
ground-breaking research by R.A. Boulay is now available at the
following web address:
http://www.apollonius.net/flyingserpents.html
This electronic transcription of FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS by
R.A. Boulay was first published privately by Galaxy Books of
Clearwater, Florida, in 1990. The first edition is now out of print,
and this electronic version is by no means an attempt to infringe
upon the author's original copyright privileges; it is merely an
effort to preserve this important earlier version, with my personal
commentary, for posterity's archives. A newer, revised and expanded
hard-copy edition of FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS was republished in
late 1997 by The Book Tree, P.O. Box 724, Escondido, California
92033 (Tel.+800-700-8733).
http://www.thebooktree.com/default.htm
Polo Delsalles of Montrial, Quibec, prepared the superb French
translation of this exciting work, and his translation is available
only at Apollonius.Net.
*
Please resend this Announcement to any person or mailing list that
may be interested in obtaining such information. Many Thanks! Merci
Beaucoup!
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1 February 2001
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"The reptiles verily descend. The Earth is resplendent as a
well-watered garden, and at that time Enki and Eridu had not
appeared. Daylight did not shine. Moonlight had not emerged. ...
I shall establish a savage. Man will be his name. Verily,
savage-man I shall create. He will be charged with the service of
the G-ds, that they might be at ease." -- Sumerian Legends
FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS, TABLE OF CONTENTS
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Prologue
WHY WERE THE ANCIENT -ODS SO SHY?
Chapter 1
ARRIVAL OF THE PROTO-SUMERIANS : THE ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS
Chapter 2
THE ANTEDILUVIAN CITIES AND THEIR PURPOSE
Chapter 3
PHYSICAL CONDITIONS BEFORE THE DELUGE
Chapter 4
THE OLD TESTAMENT BEGINS AT SUMER
Chapter 5
THE CREATION OF MAN AND THE "FALL"
Chapter 6
THE SERPENT-G-DS AND IMMORTALITY
Chapter 7
DRAGONS AND SERPENT-GO-S IN WORLD MYTHOLOGY
Chapter 8
THE PATRIARCHS, DEMI-G-DS OF THE ANTEDILUVIAN PERIOD
Chapter 9
THE REPHAIM : WARRIOR-GO-S OF THE WESTERN LANDS
Chapter 10
THE DELUGE AND OTHER PROBLEMS OF CHRONOLOGY
Chapter 11
THE SKY-CHARIOTS AND BOATS OF HEAVEN : THE VEHICLES OF THE ANCIENT
ASTRONAUTS
Chapter 12
THE PHOENIX BIRD AS SYMBOLIZING A ROCKET LAUNCH
Chapter 13
WAS NOAH'S ARK A SAUCER-SHAPED SUBMERSIBLE?
Chapter 14
THE RADIOS OF THE ANCIENTS
Chapter 15
THE FABLED LAND OF DILMUN
Chapter 16
THE SPACE CITY AND FACILITIES DESTROYED
Chapter 17
THE MOUNT SINAI-KADESH SPACE FACILITIES DESTROYED
Epilogue
IS THERE REALLY A MISSING LINK?
"Eventually Mankind will have to learn the truth about his origins
and face the fact that his go-s and ancestors were reptiles, truly
monsters by any of our current definitions. There will be a great
cultural shock as we have never seen before!" -- R.A. Boulay
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Although the world has progressed from a barbaric state to
civilization in the course of history, the 'savage sapiens' is today
basically as primitive as in the distant past, covered only with
layers of cultural and educational varnish." Darmo Salas Sommer,
Santiago de Chile, 1985
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"Buldum, bilemedim; bildim, bulamadim."
["I found, I did not know; I knew, I could not find."]
* Old Turkish Proverb *
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THE REPTILIANS

Humanity's Historical Link To The Serpent Race
By Joe Lewels, Ph.D.
DID HUMANS EVOLVE FROM REPTILES?
As long as humanity has kept records of its existence, legends of a
serpent race have persisted. These myths tell of a mysterious race of
superhuman reptilian beings who descended from the heavens to
participate in creating humankind and to teach the sciences, impart
forbidden knowledge, impose social order, breed with us, and watch
over our development.
These serpent-like beings were not alone, but were part of a retinue
of super-beings thought to be g-ds by the ancients. Yet, in cultures
as widespread and diverse as those of Sumeria, Babylonia, India, China,
Japan, Mexico, and Central America, reptilian go-s have been feared and
worshipped. To this day, the dragon and serpent signifies divine
heritage and royalty in many Asian countries, while in the West, the
serpent represents wisdom and knowledge. The symbol of two serpents
coiled around a staff (originally signifying the tree of knowledge of
ancient myth), known as the caduceus, is today used by the American
Me-ical Association as its logo.
Interestingly, stories of reptilian beings who exercise mind-control
over human captives while performing med-al procedures on them have
been emerging from the research of some of the best-known UFO
investigators, such as Budd Hopkins, John Carpenter, Linda Moulton
Howe, Yvonne Smith, and others. These stories, told by average,
mentally competent Americans, have emerged independently of one
another in different parts of the country, but have not yet received
much public attention. They tell of human encounters with creatures
that have distinctly reptilian features: webbed, claw-like hands,
large golden eyes with vertical slit pupils, and scaly, greenish-brown
skin. Such stories have circulated around the UFO research community
for many years, but few experts have had any idea of how to interpret
the tales.
So unbelievable and so frightful are they that in the past, many
researchers merely filed them away in their minds for future reference
rather than risk looking foolish or being ridiculed. Little by
little, at UFO conferences around the country, abductees and
researchers learned of each other's similar experiences with reptilian
creatures, and gradually the stories become public.
Today, researchers agree that there is a variety of entities
involved in the alien abduction scenario, including the familiar
Greys; tall, human-looking blondes (Nordics); the reptilians
(Anunnaki); and hybrids (half-human and half-alien). In addition,
there seem to be variations of each of these that imply
cross-breeding and considerable diversity. It is not clearly
understood how each type interacts with the others, although they
are often reported seen together.

MUFON's Findings

John Carpenter has kept close track of the abduction phenomenon.
He is the director of abduction research of the Mutual UFO Network
(MUFON), one of the largest and most credible organizations
dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs and abductions. Carpenter
holds a master's degree in social work and is a highly qualified
hypnotherapist who works as a psychiatric social worker in
Springfield, Missouri. Since the late 1980s, he has worked with more
than 100 abductees and compiled information on hundreds of others.
In addition, he is in contact with other researchers in the field.
He has been involved in 10 cases where experiencers have described
reptilian entities, and he is aware of researchers in other parts of
the country with similar cases. Abductees often have distinct
claw-like cuts and bruises on their bodies after their apparent
abductions.
Carpenter summarized what he knows of these beings in his regular
column, "Abduction Note," MUFON UFO Journal, April 1993: "Typically,
these reptilian creatures are reported to be about six to seven feet
tall, upright, with lizard-like scales, greenish to brownish in color
with claw-like, four-fingered webbed hands. ... Their faces are said
to be a cross between a human and a snake, with a central ridge
coming down from the top of the head to the snout. Adding to their
serpent-like appearance are their eyes which have vertical slits in
their pupils and golden irises." Perhaps the most frightening and
most controversial part of these stories are claims that the
creatures occasionally are reported to have s-x with abductees.
Supporting Carpenter's findings is a MUFON study that had financial
assistance from the Fund For UFO Research. This massive study, known
as the "Abduction Transcription Project," is an attempt to collect and
correlate information on hundreds of abduction cases through the use
of a sophisticated computer database. In July 1995, at the
organization's symposium in Seattle, Washington, Dan Wright summed up
the findings based on 142 separate cases and 560 transcripts. Wright
said, "A fair reading of those sessions indicates strongly that
multiple groups of entities have been routinely intruding into the
lives of Americans -- children as well as adults. ... When a so-called
reptilian is repeatedly described as having the same scaly skin tone,
claws for fingers, and an extreme interest in s-xuality, one must pay
attention."
The study's preliminary results indicate that reptilian types have
been reported in a relatively small percentage (less than 20 percent)
of the cases being studied.

Robert ASF.

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>Subject: Are Your Predecessors Reptilian? Jan. 31, 2001.
>
> In the past I have listened to R. A. Boulay give a lecture about
>Reptilians over in the San Francisco Bay area., I've bought his book,
>lost his book, then someone on the Interest send me
>his book, then I found his book again in my garage and sent the book
>back to the person on the Internet. I guess this is a sign to show
>me that I'm supposed to post something from his book, so here goes.

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That or buy yourself a book shelve for the books...
John why do you have books in your garage in the first place? If
you do not read them, pass them on to a church yard sale so others can
enjoy them. If you have to put books in the garage then you have too many
books.

Just Thought I Should Mention It

John F. Winston

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This is actually from Boulay's book.

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Apollonius.Net - Boulay Prologue

FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS

By R. A. Boulay )1990

Editorial Comments By
Roberto Sol`rion )1997
Prologue

WHY WERE THE ANCIENT G-DS SO SHY?

The literature and mythology of ancient cultures is filled with
accounts of dragons, flying serpents, and other winged lizards. Who,
then, were these flying, fire-breathing creatures that seem to have
coexisted with early Man, sometimes as his benefactor but many more
times as his tormentor?
Perhaps they were just fabulous creatures, the product of Man's
fertile imagination. On the other hand, it is possible they were the
manifestation of something else - of traumatic events so disturbing
and deeply rooted in his past, that knowledge of their true nature has
been subconsciously suppressed and remembered only in allegorical
terms.
Quite a few civilizations of this world trace their ancestry to such
dragon-like lizards or flying serpents. In most cases, they are
credited with bringing the benefits of civilization to Mankind. And
quite often they are described as his actual creator.
Ancient man portrayed these creatures as superior beings or go-s, who
could effortlessly move about the skies in their "fiery chariots" or
"boats of heaven." They usually lived in a "heavenly abode" and often
descended to interfere in the affairs of Man.
The earliest and the most important of cultures, that of Mesopotamia,
was probably founded by these serpent-like gods. The colonization of
this planet by these creatures is described in one of the most
dramatic and significant of ancient documents. It is the so-called
Sumerian King-List.
Dated to the Third Millennium BC, this document provides the
succession of the Kings of Sumer and their successors, the length
of their reigns since, what was to the Sumerians, the beginning of
time when their ancestors came here and "descended" to Earth to
establish a number of cities on the alluvial plain of Mesopotamia.
Calling themselves Anunnaki, these Proto-Sumerians are credited with
the establishment of Western, if not World, civilization.
Surprisingly enough, there is considerable data on these early
civilizations - the Sumerian, later to be replaced by the Akkadian and
the Babylonian cultures.
From the numerous cuneiform tablets, monuments, and artifacts that
have been unearthed in recent times, it is possible to reconstruct the
events which transpired in the early days of Mankind.
There is also a mass of evidence, which was originally derived from
the same source, but was given a rel-gious interpretation by being
transmitted through priestly channels. It was from this vast reservoir
of ancient sources that the stories of the Old Testament were derived.
From a combination of these ancient secular and reli-ious sources, it
is thus possible to piece together the story of our ancestry which
lies in the coming of the alien serpent-g-ds or astronauts who
colonized Earth many eons ago.
It will be found that our ancestors started a colony on Earth in order
to obtain metals for their homeplanet. In order to process and
transport these metals by air freighter to the orbiting mother
ship, they built five operational cities in Mesopotamia. One of these
served as a space launch platform.
The Sumerian people referred to these "go-s" as Anunnaki, literally
the sons of An, their chief -od and leader. The Anunnaki were an alien
race. In reality they were a race of sapient reptiles. They required
a cheap labor force and for this reason they created a primitive man.
By combining the characteristics of the native ape-man or Neanderthal
type man, with their own saurian nature, they produced the "Adam"
of the Old Testament. This Adam was half-human and half-reptile,
however, and being a clone could not reproduce himself.
As conditions began to change on Earth and the climate dried out,
it became necessary for them to modify the Adam to better adapt it to
the variable climate. The Homo saurus was modified and given more
mammalian traits. This was the Bi-lical "Fall of Man" where Adam
achieved "knowing" or the ability to reproduce s-xually.
As a result of this genetic modification, Man lost most of his
saurian appearance and nature, his shiny, luminous skin, and scaly
hide. He acquired mammalian characteristics - a soft flexible skin,
body hair, the need to sweat, and the ability to produce live young.
He no longer ran around naked. He now had to wear clothing for
comfort and protection. For all purposes, Man was now a Homo sapiens.
Modern man or Cro-Magnon Man had arrived upon the scene.
Man soon populated the Earth as slaves for these saurian masters.
He was sorely tested by the astronauts who descended to Earth and
mated with the daughters of Man. Known in the Scriptures as the
Nefilim, by not only produced mixed offspring, but also conducted
genetic experiments which went awry and produced many monstrous
forms.
This was a trying period for Mankind, for in this era he was
literally food for the g-ds. It is the time of the Biblical
Patriarchs and the Sumerian -od kings.
The turmoil on Earth was abruptly ended by the onset of a
natural worldwide catastrophe, known as the Deluge or Great Flood.
At this time, the g-ds retreated to their space ship, leaving
behind their semi-divine offspring to perish with Mankind in the
world flood.

John F. Winston

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After the waters had subsided they descended once more to establish
new cities on the plains of Mesopotamia. Again mating with Mankind,
they produced a race of semi-divine beings to rule their empire on
Earth. In addition, a race of warrior-go-s was established in the
lands of the Levant. Descendants of the Nefilim, but known by the name
of Rephaim, this barbaric race plagued humanity for thousands of years
and were eliminated as a threat until the First Millennium BC.
In ancient Mesopotamia, the go-s resided in a temple atop a ziggurat,
a stepped pyramid raised above the plains, and were shielded from the
general public and accessible only to a few trusted priests. Here they
ate in privacy, surrounded by curtains, so that even the attending
priests could not see them dine. One wonders if their table manners
were so atrocious that they had to be hidden even from their
retainers. Or was it something more sinister?
In the Old Testament, the overriding need for privacy is also true.
During the event known as the Exodus, the deity lived in a tent
and was never seen, nor did he dine in public. Specific instructions
were given to Moses on how to prepare the food which was left on a
grill near the quarters of the deity for him to snack on in privacy.
It was forbidden for humans to see him. Moses was told flatly by
his Go- that "you cannot see my face, for man may not see me and
live."
And this prohibition against being seen by humans is carried to an
extreme throughout the Scriptures. It became an injunction of not to
make "a graven image" or a likeness of the deity.
Thus Man is not only banned from seeing what his go- looked like but
even to make an image of what he thought he looked like. Why the
taboo? Could it be that its appearance would be so foreign and
repulsive that it had to be withheld from man? One would logically
assume that if the deities were so superior and grand as the
Scriptures indicate, that they would be flattered and pleased to
allow man to see and copy their magnificence!
Only a privileged few were allowed to even approach the deities. In
Mesopotamia they were the demi-go-s, the offspring of the mating of a
-od or g-ddess and a human.
These formed the aristocracy, and were entrusted by the go-s to see
to their needs and to form a barrier with Mankind. Even these
demi-go-s or "changelings," as they were called, were somewhat
strange in appearance and probably had certain reptilian
characteristics. The fabled Gilgamesh, for example, had something odd
in his appearance that made him stand out from normal men. The
Bib-ical Patriarchs also had something unusual about their looks as is
shown by the irrational behavior of Noah when he was seen naked by his
sons.
According to the ancient Babylonian tradition, as reported by
Berossus, the Babylonian priest writing in Athens in The Third
Century BC, Man's ancestry and origin can be traced to one Oannes, an
amphibious creature that came out of the Persian Gulf to teach the
arts of civilization to Man.
Berossus called them "annedoti" which translates as "the repulsive
ones" in Greek. He also refers to them as "musarus" meaning "an
abomination." In this way, Babylonian tradition credits the founding
of civilization to a creature which they considered to be a repulsive
abomination.
If the tradition had been invented, a more normal attitude would have
been to glorify these creatures as splendid -ods or heroes. Yet the
fact that they chose to describe their ancestors this way argues for
the authenticity of the account.
The reptilian appearance of the B-blical go-s was a well-kept secret
and only occasionally is it perceptible in the Old Testament, as
for example, the obvious worship of the "seraph" or "brazen serpent"
the incident during the Exodus. There are many more references, many
of them explicit, in the mass of rel-gious literature which forms the
basis for the books of the Old Testament.
The view is now accepted that the Old Testament went through
considerable editing and selection by the priestly transcribers.
But elsewhere in the reli-ious literature, not subject to their heavy
hand, there is found a different picture.
In the Haggadah, the source of J-wish legend and oral tradition, it
is revealed that Adam and Eve lost their "lustrous and horny hide" as
the result of eating the forbidden fruit.
The Gnostics, rivals to the early Ch-istians, relate that as a result
of eating the fruit, Adam and Eve achieved knowledge, part of which
was to realize that their creators were "beastly forms."
The sad fact is that we have created -od in our image and not the
other way around. In this way, we have hidden the true identity of our
creators.
Most of the world mythologies and reli-ions refer to their ancestors
as flying serpents or dragons who brought the arts and crafts of
civilization to Mankind. The oldest of Chinese books, the mysterious
"Yih King," claims that the first humans were formed by the ancient
go-dess Nu Kua [Editor: compare linguistically to Ninkhursag.] who
was a dragon. The early Chinese emperors claimed to be descendants of
this dragon go-dess.

The oldest and most famous of the Hindu classics, the "Ramayana" and
the "Mahabharata," concern the intercourse of early man with the
serpent-g-ds who were also their ancestors.
Central American and African mythology relate how flying serpents and
dragon-like beings descended from the heavens to teach them the basics
of civilization.
Dragons and flying serpents that so permeate ancient mythology were
actually large-legged lizards, who also had the ability to travel
about in their airborne craft. How else could the ancients illustrate
this fact except by providing them with wings?
Even the Old Testament implies that the serpent of the Garden of Eden
was a lizard or reptile for, if he had lost his hands and feet as a
result of the Fall of Man, then logically he must previously been a
legged snake or reptile.

JW Remember that not all people on Earth were made by the Reptilians.
The American Indians such as the Cherokee were seeded here by the
Pleiadians and are from the 7 virgin stars and I am a very small
part Cherokee.

Part 3.

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This part tells a little about Enki, one of my favorite historic
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Apollonius.Net - Boulay Chapter 1
FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS



Chapter 1
ARRIVAL OF THE PROTO-SUMERIANS : THE ANCIENT ASTRONAUTS

"The reptiles verily descend. The earth is resplendent as a
well-watered garden. At that time Enki and Eridu had not appeared.
Daylight did not shine, moonlight had not emerged." Fragment from
the oldest known Sumerian Tablet

THE SUMERIAN KING LIST

One of the most remarkable and valuable historic documents is the
so-called King List, which records the names of the Kings of Sumer and
the lengths of their reigns from what was to them, the beginning of
history - a time in the distant past when "kingship descended from
heaven" and founded five cities in the Mesopotamian plain.
It records an interruption when "the Flood swept over the land," an
event which we know as the Deluge or Great Flood.
The King List then resumes the narrative as "kingship descended"
once more. It describes the kings and their reigns down to part of
the Isin Dynasty which began to rule about 1950 BC.
The King List attributes reigns of legendary and incredible lengths
to many of the rulers of the earlier antediluvian kings. In this sense,
it affirms the enormous lifespans of the Patriarchs of the Old
Testament. While these extremely long reigns and lifespans cannot be
explained, there is a consistency among the secular and re-igious
sources that indicate they had a logic of their own which has yet to
be perceived by current scholarship.
The King List has received mixed reviews among scholars, but since
its records of the Fourth and Third Millennia BC have been corroborated
separately by archeological evidence, it has been accepted by many as
a valuable historical document.
In his work "The Sumerians" Professor Samuel Noah Kramer, the dean of
Sumerian studies, endorses its value as a research tool. He has
suggested that the King List "if used with discrimination and
understanding, provides us with a historical framework of inestimable
value."

MESOPOTAMIA, THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION

Our story does not begin with the creation of the world. It starts
with the arrival of intelligent life on Earth - the people we know
historically as the Proto-Sumerians. It is not known exactly when
these ancestors of ours came here or why. It is surmised that they
arrived here quite some time before the world-wide catastrophe called
the Deluge. It was also long before the advent of modern man or Homo
sapiens.
It is generally agreed that these Proto-Sumerians were the origin
of our Western Civilization, and that their beginnings were in the area
called Mesopotamia, literally "the land between the two rivers."
The arrival of these "g-ds" is reported in the records that their
descendants left behind - the Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian
cuneiform tablets.
The land known as Mesopotamia and the cradle of civilization, lies
mostly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. Originating in the
mountains of Armenia in the north, the two rivers move in a gradually
converging course down a wide and grassy plain to the Persian Gulf. In
early times, the area was made up of marsh and lagoon, much as it
is today.
The introduction of an intensive river-canal system to irrigate and
drain the plain gave rise to a dense population and to the
establishment of a great culture. The lower part of Mesopotamia became
a very fertile garden area which the Sumerians referred to as E-DIN,
or "the abode of the righteous ones." It was the location of, and gave
its name to, the Bi-lical Garden of Eden.
While the southern part of Mesopotamia came to be called Sumer, the
area farther up the plain at the near convergence of the two rivers
was later called Akkad. The Akkadian city BAB-ILU became prominent
and gave its name to the entire region - Babylonia.
After the Deluge, the Sumerian cities were rebuilt and resettled
on the alluvial plain of Mesopotamia. Since the oldest of these date
to about 3500 BC, and was built on virgin soil, it is clear that
they were not built upon the ruins of the former city. This is due to
the fact that the waters of the Persian Gulf have risen some 150 feet
since the Deluge, inundating the former cities. This will be
discussed later What reason or purpose brought these alien beings or
Anunnaki, as they called themselves, to this planet we don't know.
(JW I believe if you check closely you will find that these people
came from a planet that the atmosphere had deteriorated to the point
where it was not filtering out the harmful rays of their sun. They
orginally came here to mine for gold so they could put it into their
atmosphere and save it. We use the same principle to put a thin
layer of gold, so thin that you can see through it, into our face
plates that are worn in helmets as we as astronauts go to the Moon.
The thin layer filters out the harmful frequencies and we go about
our work unharmed.) But from their legends and myths we can deduce
that it was probably for commercial purposes. According to the King
List they came here over 240,000 years ago.
This document describes the activities of the antediluvian Anunnaki
as "kingship descended from heaven" and was first established at Eridu,
the Erech of the Bi-le. Here two kings ruled for 64,800 years. Eridu
was abandoned as the capital and the kingship was moved to Badtibira
where three kings reigned for 108,000 years. Then the kingship was
moved to Larak and one king ruled for 28,800 years. A fourth city to
them become the capital was Sippar where one king, Enmeduranna,
reigned for 21,000 years. This Enmeduranna is important to our story,
for, as we shall see, he was the Enoch of the Old Testament.
The kingship was then transferred to Shuruppak where one king ruled
for 18,600 years. Thus, as the tablet summarized, eight kings ruled
over five cities for a total of 241,200 years.
The King List then states laconically, the Flood swept over the
land, putting an end to all commercial and other activities.
These huge numbers have been a puzzle to scholars. They are consistent
throughout the King List and therefore are not erroneous. While a
rational explanation has thus far escaped historians, most researchers
feel there must be some logical answer to these fanciful numbers
since a parallel can be found in the enormous lifespans of the
antediluvian Patriarchs.
It is entirely possible that these are not Earth years as we know
them. A divine year or "Year of An" is often mentioned in the
cuneiform tablets and, although not fully understood, is probably
not equivalent to our normal Earth year. A reflection of this is
found in the Old Testament (Ps-lms 90:4) where one divine day is
said to be the equivalent of a thousand years. [Editor: This same
statement or something similar is also in the Koran, I think.]
It was also not unusual for the ancients to compute time by other
than normal Earth years as, for example, in the "Book of Jub-lees"
where a Jubi-ee year is equivalent to 50 regular years, that is,
seven week years (a week year was seven years) and one year added
for atonement when all activities were supposed to cease.
Furthermore, there is an indication that the years of the King List
have an underlying logic as it is found in their system of
enumeration. Their numerical system was sexagesimal in character but
not strictly so, for they also made use of the factor of 10 as well
as 6. Thus the sequence 1, 10, 60, 360, 3600 takes on a special
meaning in their mythology. The number 60 held a special significance
to the Sumerians, for in their system of numerical rank it was the
highest number and assigned to their chief go- An.
If the duration of the various terms of kingship are presented
graphically, it becomes obvious that this sexagesimal system must
underlie the fabulous numbers of the King List. Called a "shar" by
the Sumerians, the number 3600 appears to have a special meaning in
this list. It can be seen that, with slight adjustment, the years of
reign of the Sumerian kings are divisible by this number. It indicates
that the term for the reign of a Sumerian antediluvian king was
presumably a shar and was renewable every 3600 years. [Editor: This
is the period of the orbit of Planet Nibiru.]

THE RULING -ODS OF THE SUMERIAN PANTHEON

The Sumerians and Akkadians did not call their alien visitors
"go-s."
It is in the later cultures that the notion of divine beings
filtered into our language and thinking. They called them "ilu"
or the lofty ones, from which the Semitic "ili" and "el" of the
Hebrew evolved. [Editor: Prince Utu's name in the Mayan language,
interestingly, was/is Xochipili.]
The Western word "go-" has through usage come to mean superior
spir-tual beings, far removed from Man and incapable of defect
or error. On the other hand, Man is considered to be a blemished
incomplete being, burdened with "original s-n" and destined to
worship and pay homage to an unreachable -od. The Sumerian g-ds
were far from spiri-ual. They were real live physical beings
capable of committing serious errors and misjudgments. They could
be called "supermen" if this term could be applied genetically to
a saurian race.
The Sumerian -ods regarded Man as a convenience and nothing more.

JW There is a good chance that the Chinese people were in a war
in space with Lucifer being one of the combatants. Some of the
survivors from that conflict migrated to Mars and then when it
looked like there was going to be a catastrophy that would wipe
people on it's surface, part of them came here and became the
Chinese race. Those that staid behind went into the artificially
covered depressions called canals today. They are still living
there.

Part 4.

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He supplied their wants, kept their cities, and provided cannon
fodder for their various military ventures. The g-ds could be cruel
and sympathetic masters. They considered humans merely as unruly
children, no more important than pets, to be governed ruthlessly and
without sentiment. These accusations may seem like hyperbole to the
reader, but we shall see, by subsequent events, that this was indeed
the case. [Editor: This notion is hauntingly similar to the discussion
of the Archons of Destiny by John Baines in his book "The Stellar
Man." For additional information, you are referred to
http://www.apollonius.net/archons.html
Although the term Anunnaki is used generically to apply to all the
Proto-Sumerians who came to this planet, it means literally "the
sons of An," their great go-. In the antediluvian period, a large
group of these Anunnaki descended from the mother ship to colonize
Earth. According to the "Enuma Elish," the Babylonian myth of
creation, 300 of these Anunnaki descended to Earth while another 300
remained aboard the space ship. These were called "Igigi" and
presumably were the technicians of the space craft.

THE SENIOR -ODS AN, THE FATHER OF THE ANUNNAKI

An, or Anu in Akkadian, meant "He of the Heavens" and his name was
always written pictographically as a star. He was the great progenitor
and senior -o- who stood above all the other g-ds. His abode and
seat of authority was in the heavens, the orbiting space ship or
URU-SAG-AN-NA, literally "the chief city of the heavens." [Editor:
Anu in Greek/Roman was Kronos/Saturn, the son of Alalu or
Uranus/Caelus. Sitchin writes about how Anu and Antu staged a coup
d'etat and deposed Alalu and Lilitu. Greek mythology adds a curious
footnote to this same story by stating that before usurping the
throne from Uranus, Saturn first physically ca-trated his father.
They are indeed ruthless creatures, these saurians! And it should
be noted that although Planet Nibiru first arrived in our solar
system around 500,000 Earth Years ago, the Sumerian King List doesn't
start until about 240,000 years ago. Thus, the intervening years
before the ascension of Anu and the start of the King List can be
deduced to equal the reign of Alalu.
He descended to Earth only on special occasions, in time of crisis,
or for ceremonial reasons. When on Earth he would stay in his temple,
the E-ANNA or "House of An" atop the ziggurat in Uruk, his sacred
city. The word ziggurat comes from the Babylonian "zaquru" and means
"to be high or raised up." It signifies the top of a mountain or a
staged tower and such a tower provided an artificial platform on the
flat Mesopotamian plain.
Anu had three children - two sons Enlil and Enki and a daughter
Ninkhursag. The division of authority between his two sons caused
much dissension, and the senior go- spent much of his time settling
disputes between them as well as his grandchildren. [Editor: Refer to
"The Vengeful Birth of Lord Hellespontiacus" in which it was mentioned
that Anu had to settle the dispute between Princess Inanna and Queen
Ereshkigal over the "ownership" of the kidnapped infant Dumuzi, who
eventually became the public lover of Princess Inanna.
See: http://www.apollonius.net/hellespontiacus.html

ENLIL, THE CHIEF OF THE EXPEDITION TO EARTH

Although he was the younger son of An, Enlil became the most
powerful -od of the Sumerian pantheon next to An. Literally "The
Lord of the Command," Enlil was commander of the expedition of the
Anunnaki to Earth. He had many appellations which described his
authority - Lord of Heaven and Earth, Lord of All the Lands, Giver
of the Kingships, Prince of Heaven, and Chief of Earth.
Enlil was actually the archetype for the -od of the Western Lands of
Palestine and Syria - the "El" of the Semites and particularly the
generic "El" or "Elohim" of the B-ble.
Enlil made sure that the decrees of the go-s in council were
carried out against Mankind. He is often depicted with bow and arrow,
symbolic of the powerful weapons at his disposal to enforce his
authority.
Enlil disliked Mankind and only tolerated humans as necessary to
provide for the welfare of the go-s. It was Enlil, according to the
Sumerian story of the Deluge, who brought on the destruction of
Mankind because the noise of the boisterous humans interfered with
his rest.
The temple dedicated to him at Nippur was called the DUR-AN-KI or
"bond of heaven and earth," from where he directed the activities
of Mankind. This structure is described in part in the cuneiform
tablets as some type of communication or control center.
From his temple atop the Ekur at Nippur, it was said that he had
"eyes that could scan the land." The equipment used sounds very
much like some sort of radar or scanning device for the tablets
state that "he raises the beams that search the heart of all the
lands."
This rule was at times turbulent. One day, seeing a g-ddess n-ked
and bathing by a stream on Earth below, he became enamored of her and
descended to s-duce her. The pantheon was horrified at the escapade
of Enlil since it apparently abrogated one of their basic conventions.
Although he was the chief -od, he was exiled from the space ship and
stripped of his powers. Only after marrying and making her his chief
wife did the pantheon relent and let Enlil return to resume his
authority.
Enlil named her Ninlil and gave her status equivalent to his own.
The result of this episode was a son called Nannar who became Enlil's
favorite. Nannar was given rank in the pantheon second only to him
and Enki, and honors and lands commensurate with his position.
[Editor: In Greek mythology, Enlil is the equivalent of Zeus,
according to Sitchin, who also equated Prince Nannar with the Greek
Hermes and Egyptian Thoth. Because the parents of Hermes were Zeus and
Maia, it logically follows that Ninlil is the equivalent of Maia.]

ENKI, THE CHIEF OPERATIONS OFFICER

Although he was An's first born, Enki was given lower rank than his
younger brother Enlil, who had been born to An by another wife who
was also his half-sister. By the laws of Sumerian inheritance, Enlil
became heir to the throne. Lingering resentment over his disinheritance
and the growing competition over who would control activities on Earth
brought Enki into direct conflict with his brother Enlil.
ENKI or "Lord of the Earth" was also called EA or "he whose house is
on the water," a tacit reference to his water place or Abzu from where
he carried out operations when he first arrived on Earth.
Enki was all things to the expedition: Chief Engineer, Chief
Scientist, Chief of Mining, and more importantly, the Creator of
Mankind. [Editor: Here we once again find the oceanic reference to
Enki, or Poseidon, G-d of the Seas.
As a master engineer, he supervised the turning of the marshlands
of lower Mesopotamia into a veritable paradise. He planned and
supervised the construction of the canal system, the diking of the
rivers, and the draining of the marshlands. In a self-laudatory poem
he boasts of making the marshlands a haven for birds and fishes, of
directing the invention and use of the plow and yoke, of starting
animal husbandry, and bringing the construction arts to Earth in order
to raise the cities.
Enki had many epithets. He was the Go- of Wisdom, the -od Mining,
the Lord of the Flowing Waters, and the Lord of the Sea and
Shipbuilding.
He is often portrayed with a stream and fish flowing from his
shoulders, symbolic of his capacity to provide navigable waters and to
insure potable water to the cities of Mesopotamia.
His home was E-RI-DU, that is, "home built far away," a veiled
reference to the fact that this was a colony. Eridu was the first
city built by the alien astronauts on Earth and was located on the
edge of the watered plain or EDIN.
Enki loved to go sailing or cruising on these water courses in his
water craft which he called "the Ibex" after the nimble goats which
inhabited the surrounding mountains. In this way, the ibex and the
goat with a fish tail became symbolic of the -od Enki and appear
often on Sumerian seals and monuments.
As the -od of Mining, Enki is often shown with a human miner
holding an ingot of metal on a carrying pole.
Metal was molded this way, in the form of a cylinder with a hole
through the middle, in order to facilitate its being carried on a
pole with a handle. Also shown at times with his two sons Gibil and
Nergal who were in charge of mining activities. But most important
of all, Enki is remembered as the g-d who created man and who came
to his defense against the capricious Enlil. As the creator of Man,
he is often shown with the "the tree or shrub of life."
The serpent was also Enki's symbol, presumably for its ability to
shed its skin and therefore achieve a sort of immortality. The
depiction of the serpent was one method the ancient artisans used to
represent their reptile ancestors. It is also from the representation
of the serpent coiled around the tree of life, that the "Caduceus"
of the Greeks later evolved. [Editor: This same symbol is used by
med-cal practitioners even today!
Just as the capricious Enlil is remembered as the -od who brought on
the Deluge, Enki is recognized as the one who saved Mankind by his
timely warning of the coming disaster to the Sumerian Noah. Enki's
unauthorized creation of modern man or Homo sapiens further
estranged him from Enlil. The antagonism between the two erupted
again after the Deluge among their children who kept the Middle East
in a state of turmoil for thousands of years. [Editor: Even
up to the present day, it might be added - those people never stop
fighting!

NINKHURSAG, THE CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER

NIN-KHUR-SAG or "Lady of the Mountain Top" was the fourth senior
Sumerian -od. She was a half-sister to Enki and Enlil. In earlier days
Ninkhursag was of higher rank than Enki and preceded his name when
they appeared together. She was later reduced in status and
practically disappeared from the pantheon as a major or effective
influence. [Editor: From Stichin's work we know that Ninkhursag is the
equivalent of the Egyptian Isis, which in turn we know from Greek
mythology is the Greek Go-dess Hera, later renamed Juno by the
Romans.]

Part 5.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


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Subject: Are Your Predecessors Reptilian? Part 6. Feb. 6, 20001.

This part talks about Ur.

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It may be that she was eclipsed by the rising star of Inanna or
Ishtar who injected herself in all Sumerian and western affairs. In
the Western Lands such as Palestine, Syria, and Lebanon, Ishtar
appeared in several forms. As the mother go-dess she displaced
Ninkhursag. Her role was that of the s-x or love g-ddess. She was
also known for her militant role as the warrior -oddess.
Ninkhursag is also known by many other names such as NIN-TI (the
Lady who gives Life), NIN-MAH (The Exalted Lady), MAM-MU (The Creator
G-ddess), a name from whence came our word Mama. [Editor: In the lands
of the Mayans, she was known as "Pachamama." Is this great, or what!?]
Ninkhursag was given the antediluvian city of Shuruppak where she
reigned as the Chief Me-ical Officer and Chief Nurse for the members
of the expedition. Her sacred symbol was the umbilical cord and the
cutter knife used to sever it.
Enki and Ninkhursag directed biological experiments in the
laboratories atop her ziggurat at Shuruppak and in Enki's floating
headquarters which led to the creation of the first primitive man
called a "lulu." (JW I guess you might say he was a real lulu.)
This was a hybrid mammal-reptile form. This was done at the direct
request of Enlil who wanted a creature able to take over the
burdensome workload now being performed by the children of An.
Following formulas and processes provided by Enki, Ninkhursag
produced a worker, but one with a major failing - it could not
reproduce itself. By going a step further, and modifying this
primitive being by giving it predominant mammal characteristics,
Enki and Ninkhursag overreached their commission.
In crossbreeding the "lulu" with the wild primitive man of the
period - Neanderthal Man - they achieved a new worker type, modern
man or Homo sapiens, better known as Cro-Magnon Man. [Editor: i.e.,
Us.] It was this activity that brought down the wrath of Enlil. In
further diluting the saurian strain, he saw it as a direct threat
to the survival of the reptile race.

THE NUMERICAL RANK OF THE -ODS

There was a very explicit "pecking order" among the astronaut-go-s
of the Sumerian pantheon. They were assigned numerical ranks based on
a system of 60. This number represented a special, almost mystical,
significance for the Sumerians.
Each major go- was given a numerical "name" which represented his
rank in the hierarchy. In this way, numbers were used as a sort of
cryptography. The numerical ranks of the Sumerian ruling deities were
assigned in descending order of importance:
Anu 60 Antu 55
Enlil 50 Ninlil 45
Enki 40 Ninki 35
Nannar 30 Ningal 25
Utu 20 Inanna 15
Ishkur 10 Ninkhursag 5
Numbers ending in 5 were assigned to the distaff side. According to
Sumerian tradition, only males could command, a policy that caused
much distress in the affairs of the Middle East, for Inanna refused to
accept her status and intrigued and plotted almost continuously to
gain political power.
The number 50 not only represented the rank of Enlil, but also
his position as chief of all the activities on Earth. After the
Deluge, when the younger g-ds challenged the authority of the older
go-s for leadership, Enlil's military aide Ninurta assumed the title
of 'fifty" and thereby lay claim to the mantle of leadership which
apparently had been vacated by Enlil.
Besides Ninurta, there was another claimant to the leadership.
Marduk, the eldest son of Enki, was unranked in the pantheon; he also
assumed the title of "fifty" as he proclaimed himself chief of Babylon.
With the eclipse of the senior -o-s after the Deluge, there was a
scramble for power among the younger g--s Nannar, Utu, and Ishkur
(with Inanna seemingly always involved). It brought much disorder to
the nations of the Middle East. This manifested itself in constant
warfare among the cities of Mesopotamia which became pawns in the
struggle of the competing go-s.

SECOND TIER OF THE PANTHEON, THE YOUNGER RULING -DS

Only the sons, daughters, wives, and grandchildren of Enlil were
given numerical rank in the pantheon. The sons of Enki did not
participate, perhaps because they were assigned geographic areas and
activities away from Mesopotamia after the Deluge, a precaution on
the part of Enlil to prevent conflict between the cousins, but
presumably also to retain control of Mesopotamia for his family.
The Sumerian go-s were always depicted graphically with horned
crowns. In later days, the senior -ods were represented by a horned
crown sitting on an altar.
When the names of the -ods were written out on the cuneiform tablets
they were always preceded by the pictographic symbol of a star or a
"dingir." The term "dingir" was a combination of DIN meaning "the
righteous one" and GIR, the word for a bird or flying object. In
other words, the symbol "dingir" meant that the name which followed
was that of a -od who was separated from common humanity by his
ability to move about by celestial chariot or craft.
Each go- had his sacred animal and symbol; these can be clearly seen
on the boundary stones or markers as used by the Babylonian dynasties
of the Second Millennium BC.

NANNAR, THE LEGITIMATE RULER OF MESOPOTAMIA

Born of the r-pe of Ninlil, NAN-NAR (The Bright One) was the
favorite son of Enlil. After the Deluge he was assigned all the lands
of Mesopotamia, Syria, and Palestine. His sacred city was Ur or
"Capital City" and his sacred symbol was the crescent moon. (JW Once
I was listening to a speaker who was stateing that The Ur of the
Caldees is where Abraham was from when he called to go into another
land. Many years ago there was a group of scientist who went into
a room in the city of Ur. There they found on a wall with different
forulas and notes that showed 12 or more formulas. It could be seen
that each of these formulas showed how the Universe worked. A picture
of the drawing was given to Einstein and he came up with the formula
E=MC2. The picture was next given to Werner Von Braun who came up
with the up with the excape velosity of an object to leave the Earth's
magnetic pull and this would allowed us to send rockets into outter
space. There were some of the formulas that hadn't been used yet. I
personally believe that one or more of these might have to do with
magnetic propulsion, or free enery.
Later I came back and asked this man what the name of the book
was that he got this material from and he couldn't remember but
said it might have something to do with the Mr. Wooley's expedition
to Ur. If anyone knows any more about this please let me (John
Winston) know.) This symbol so dominated the post-diluvian times
that it later was adopted by Islam, just as the cross of Shamash
was adopted by the Chr-stians.
His Semitic name SIN (the Sinai region was named after him) is
really not a Semitic name but a loan-word from Sumerian SU-EN or ZU-EN
meaning "The Wise Lord." Since Sumerian names can be read forward as
well as backwards, Zuen may be the EN-ZU or "The Lord Zu" who stole
the Tablets of Destiny from Enlil and were retrieved by Ninurta with
the aid of Ishkur and weapons supplied by Enki. This is strongly
suggested by the notable absence of Nannar/Sin from "The Myth of
Zu" discussed below. It also explains Sin's falling out of favor at
certain times in the history of Mesopotamia and the challenge of
Ninurta to the rank of "fifty."

UTU, CHIEF OF THE SPACE FACILITIES

Utu or "The Shining One" was a grandson of Enlil and with Inanna was
a twin born to Nannar. Utu's city in antediluvian times was the
space platform at Sippar, from where the freighters laden with metals
shuttled to and from the orbiting space ship.
After the Deluge, Sippar remained his sacred city, although he
moved his space activities to the west to the land of Lebanon, where
Baalbeck became the new space platform. In the Western Lands he was
known by his Semitic name of Shamash. The city of Baalbeck was called
Beth-Shamash in the Old Testament, or in other words the "House of
Shamash."
The symbol of Shamash was the four-pointed star against a disk with
rays. Later, the winged solar disk became associated with Shamash.
He subsequently became known as the G-d of Justice in the Babylonian
pantheon, as shown on a table, circa 900 BC, found at Sippar. Shamash
was worshiped as the Sun G-d who daily traversed the skies and the
"one from whom no secrets were hid," probably because his space craft
surveyed all that went on below. In this tablet two horned -ods in
"heaven" hold divine cords which connect with the altar of Shamash
below. The cords represent his connection or shuttle flight between
heaven and earth. As the divine cordholder, it was said he traversed
the skies and "measured the bounds of the Earth." [Editor:
Utu/Shamash was known in Greek mythology as the Sun Go- Apollo, later
renamed Helios by the Romans. In Egypt he was known as the G-d
Harpocrates.] Shamash was often depicted with wings indicative of
his role as Chief Astronaut of the Anunnaki. An Assyrian relief from
the palace of Asshurnazipal II at Nimrod shows him in a winged wheel
hovering over the symbolic tree of life. It is flanked by two nobles
and two winged astronauts each bearing the symbols of immortality -
the pine cone and the "situla" or water bucket.
[Editor: Drunvalo Melchizedek talks about the fact that the pine cone
forms in the perfect Fibonacci Sequence. I have looked at pine cones
after reading that, and it is true. Thus, if the Fibonacci Sequence
is indeed incorporated into the mathematical structure of the Great
Pyramid of Egypt, as Drunvalo suggests, then this symbol of a pine
cone relating to Utu could indicate this as well, because the Great
Pyramid and Sphinx were constructed in the first place to be "landing
beacons," so to speak, for Space Commander Utu's Sinai Spaceport.
Also, it is interesting that in the book "Hamlet's Mill" by Giorgio
de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend, in connection with the
discussion of the Planet Nibiru in Appendix 39, the "symbolic tree"
or "pukku" is detailed at great length. See also
http://www.apollonius.net/cosmictree.html

INANNA, LOVE GO-DESS AND CHIEF TROUBLEMAKER

IN-ANNA or "The Beloved of Anu" was a twin to Shamash and
granddaughter of Anu. Since Anu descended to Earth only occasionally
to visit his sacred city of Uruk, Inanna convinced him to let her
rule the city in his absence. Later she became the patron deity of
Agade just before its destruction.

Part 6.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: How To Improve Your Life. Feb. 8, 2001.

Here is something that might make you crack a smile. It's written
in broken English like a person would use who doesn't know English
very well.

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From: Hiroyuki Nishigaki <fwng...@nifty.com>
Subject: B-tt-squeezing exercise and 3-week fasting

Dear, my friend

News tips from my book-How to make # # 3 times in succession and 3
week fasting (1) How to Good-bye Depression (sold by amazon.com)
-utt -squeezing exercise. Constricting outlet (anus )100 times, denting
navel to spine 100 times and having a bowel movement 6 times everyday
is effective for vigor, anti-aging, good-bye depression,stress
reduction, beauty treatment, intuition, conjugal affection.
Such an exercise looks as if you had your dirty weak used car (your
body, heart) overhauled at the garage. The overhauled and powered-up
glistened car can run smoothly on any bad road. Such an exercise is
funny, but you can begin to live without complaints and don't hold a
grudge under any circumstance. How about you now? Are you exhausting
dirty black gas from your buttocks or knocking like a dirty weak used
car now? You can start seeing results only within a few days or a few
weeks or a few months if you begin to do such an exercise. hmm,hmm,,,
,,,,,,,,,,. No, better try it!
You can do so at a boring meeting or in a subway. I have known a
70-year-old man who has practiced it for 20 years. As a result, he has
a good complexion and has grown 20 years younger. His eyes sparkle. He
is full of vigor, happiness and joy. He has neither complained nor
born a grudge under any circumstance. Furthermore, he can make # #
three times in succession without drawing out.
To my question if he was able to see a ball of beautiful sparkling
light in his abdomen due to his youthful and vigorous condition, he
replied that he can see it sometimes, but wasn't able to understand it.
"Whenever I see it, I feel weird and go to bed as soon as I can"
he added.
I have taught him that it is a qualification of a teacher, a
Reverend or a guru. I have taught him that it is called "living water,
G-d" in the Scriptures, "inner intent, the third attention, a power
of silence, bird of wisdom, of freedom" in the Mr.Carlos Castaneda's
books, "beautiful lotus coming out in mud" "lantern, emptiness,
wisdom or enlightenment" in Buddhism, "emptiness or regenerated baby"
in Taoism, "gold made from lead" in alchemy or "phoenix" in Egypt.
A teacher, a Reverend or a guru or pastor has talked about such a
light (fire) and asked for it for long years. Ironically, they seldom
have such a light in their abdomens. As a result, they are apt to
have bad complexion, not to grow younger, not to become vigorous.
Then, they are apt to die of ca-cer or heart disease sooner or later.
There are hundreds of ways to burn the fire from within. That is to
say, there are hundreds of ways to temper your body and heart. They
are like a maze. Most of us and even a teacher, a Reverend or a guru
are apt to rove from one way to another and end up practicing no way
(or not practicing everyday patiently, carefully, not-proudly and
soberly). You know. It looks like roving from one woman (man) to
another woman (man) and end up marrying no woman (no man) or marrying
bad woman (bad man) at last.
According to some German doctor, three biggest causes of can-er are
unhappy childhood, keeping own feelings under and suffering from the
stress of complaints (against other s-x, son or daughter, parents,
boss, money, work or post and so on) for more than 3 years. If you
have not practiced a way to burn the fire from within, these causes
can make the fire of your abdomen go out so that you have lost joy,
become cynical. As a result, your body can not emit strong beautiful
energy so that you have bad complexion, look older and have colder
sticky numb part of your body. C-ncer prefers only colder sticky numb
part of your body and grows there suddenly.
It is much more effective to burn the fire from within that you
know only 1-2 ways and keep on practicing it everyday for 10-20
years as the above mentioned old man. I think you will never die of
ca-cer as long as you keep on burning the fire from within so that
you have good complexion, grow at least 10-20 years younger and
become vigorous.
In addition, hairs will begin to grow at bald head again if you
eat sea vegetable every day, too.
Do you know? Gray hairs of head->gray hair of face->gray hair of
# #-> gray hair of * *-> pass away. How about you now ?
In addition, he also can have burned a strong, beautiful fire
within his abdomen. It can burn out the dirty stickiness of his body,
release his immaterial fiber or third attention, which has been
confined to his stickiness. Concentrate on it and attain happy lucky
feeling through the success of concentration.
If you don't know concentration, which gives you peculiar pleasure,
your life looks like h-ll.
Needless to say, I have done such a bu-t-squeezing exercise almost
everyday for 18 years. I have written about such a -utt-squeezing
exercise in my second English book-How to Good-bye Depression. Its
sales ranking of amazon.com is 51,114 on Feb 5th (sometimes less
than 10,000. Less than 10,000 looks like Mount Everest for all
authors) in spite of the broken English book. 8 radio talk shows
talked about it since last June in America, have made many American
crack up heartily, relax, but made them learn something from it. I
was pleased and embarrassed to explain such an exercise at live
radio talk shows in America in my broken English.
3 week fasting can make you excrete a bucketful of old black
excrement (4-5 kg) which has attached to your small intestine for
long years. It is effective for stress reduction, anti-aging, good
complexion, beauty treatment, incurable disease (for example, atopic
dermatitis, chronic cirrhosis). Sometimes, c-ncer or chronic disease
can be cured by fasting. You can do 3 week fasting under the
supervision of professional when you change job, are fired, retire
or divorce. There is not the big pain of hunger. Strangely, you can
begin to feel a peculiar happy feeling later than the fourth day. You
can become so relieved and happy that we feel as if you swept a foul
chimney after you begin to excrete a bucketful of old black excrement.
A few (maybe many) people are apt to say "F--- you !", "S---!", "Go
to he-l" to others. I think a bucketful of old black excrement (that
has attached to their small intestine) has make them have bad
complexion, irritate them so that they are apt to say so. That is to
say, a bucketful of old black excrement makes them say so. I can calm
down whenever I think so. Such people begin to have good complexion
and good lovely eyes when they begin to excrete a bucketful of old
black excrement everyday while doing fasting or after doing fasting.
I begin to smile in secret to see such people. Then, I often talk to
myself" lovely ---t!" or "lovely stupid !" about such people.
Owing to excreting a bucketful of old black excrement, 3 week
fasting can give you a good complexion. So, it is effective for beauty
treatment, charming without make-up, too. I never feel charming about
the young woman who has a bad complexion and not-lovely eyes. I never
feel charming about a person with bad complexion and not-lovely eyes
who talks about love, G-d, sp-ritual, consciousness. It is because
I tend to imagine a bucketful of old black excrement within such
a young woman's or such a person's small intestine.
Your gunshot of # # will become longer than that of your high
school for 2 weeks after finishing 3 week fasting. You will be able
to take back Youth again. You can look like 10 years younger. I think
you will regret " I am stupid enough to have postponed doing 3 week-
fasting till now." You can understand that fasting is one of the
biggest pleasures in our lives. You will be able to enjoy happy lucky
feeling like that of Ulman's poem-YOUTH for the first time. I imagine
you may weep because the injury of your heart has been healed by 3
week fasting.
I have written about 3 week fasting in my book- How to Good-bye
Depression (sold by amazon.com). Please, visit my website
(http://hometown.aol.com/nishigaki3/index.htm, Title : How to Good-bye
Depression) if you want more. Please, insert the letters into the
address bar of your PC if this link is broken.
PS: I found your name at one or two of metaphysical websites
while surfing around.I have not a mailing list and do not sell your
email address to others. If you consider this letter an invasion of
your privacy, I offer you my sincere apology. Please, teach me not
your name but your email address if you want not to receive my email.
I do not sell it to others. For me, America is really mysterious. At
the beginning, I was completely ignored, next was completely mocked,
now,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in spite of ,,,,. I feel happy if my book is a
little useful for you to keep on advancing your own path to knowledge,
infinity, the universe in silence and secret (without chat)
patiently fighting against your petty tyrant (who or which try to
tortures or annoys or weakens you). I show honor to such a man or
woman. Or, please , take advantage of my book to reinforce or
improve your psychic ability. Spi-it bless you! For your
information, favorite joke for a special occasion or your happiness.

Hiroyuki Nishigaki-3-week fasting 6 times for 25 years, the first
broken English best-seller author, in Japan, author: How to Good-bye
Depression, Rejuvenation and Unveiled Hidden Phoenix, on air at 16
radio talk shows in America,
E-mail: fwng...@nifty.com /
Web: http://hometown.aol.com/hnishigaki/index.htm

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Who Was Jehovah? Feb. 8, 20001.

First of all let me tell you that I don't know for sure who
Jehovah was but this part, which I will call part 1, will give you
two ideas on the subject. As most of you already know the progeny of
Abraham finally grew to be a great number of people and they ask the
Great I AM to give them a king so they could be like the people
around them. They were warned as to what the king would do to them
but they wanted one anyway.
They were given Saul. I read some writing from Sananda many years
back stating that the Je-ish people later on asked the Great I AM for
a g-d like the people around them. They were given a go- probably
called Jehovah, who was sort of a War Lord and he was a jealous
being and took his wrath out on his people who didn't serve him just
right, down to the second and third generation. So Sananda sometimes
called J--us in the New Testements gets back to a kind and loving -od.
It just so happens that a person by the name of Rael is now saying
he is in contact with the Elohim again and they want to come back.
They requested that Rael ask the people of this Earth to build
them a place, about like a temple, over in Israel for them to live
in while they are here on Earth. Does that sound a little familiar
to you?
Here we go back to the the material at hand, which is really part
7 but I'll call it part 1 so that people will not think I am long
winded.

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Better known by her Semitic name of Ishtar, she is depicted as a
powerful go-dess throughout the post-diluvian period, in the Western
Lands as well as in Mesopotamia. Her sacred symbol, the eight-pointed
star, is always predominant among the symbols of the ruling -ods.
By virtue of her gender, Inanna or Ishtar could not legally rule,
yet she managed to inject herself into politics everywhere. One poem
describes her descent to the nether world to try to seize power from
her older sister Ereshkigal. [Editor: Because of all the incestuous
relationships among these various ranking go-s and g-ddesses, it is
often difficult to determine just who was a sister or brother of
whom, or who exactly was whose grandchild. It is my opinion, for
example, that Inanna was the great-granddaughter, not merely the
granddaughter, of Anu. These genealogical problems will be analyzed in
much greater detail in a future article devoted specifically to royal
lineages.]
Another myth relates how she managed to trick Enki into giving her
some of the Tablets of Destiny or MEs which gave her the authority and
the means to install herself as ruler of Uruk. In the famous
"Gilgamesh Epic" she offers her favors to the hero of the epic who
resoundly rejects her advances, thereby enraging her to the extent
that she tried to destroy Gilgamesh.
The image presented by the Sumerian and Babylonian literature is a
mixed one - that of the love -oddess on the one hand, and that of the
militant warrior on the other. She not only interfered in the affairs
of Mesopotamia but also dominated the pantheon of the Western Lands of
Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Anatolia where she was known under
various names such as Ishtar, Ashtoreth, Astarte, Asherah, and Anat
among others.
Inanna was the prototype for both warrior and love g-ddesses in
the Mediterranean area and later became the model for the two Greek
go-desses, Pallas Athena and Aphrodite. [Editor: This is slightly
incorrect. In Greco-Roman mythology Inanna was known as
Aphrodite/Venus; thus, in Egypt as Hathor. Athena was a different
go-dess entirely, a Warrior -oddess who gave her name to the city
of Athens and the consort of the Greco-Roman Warrior Go-
Haphaestus/Vulcan/Typhon. These two warriors were known in Egypt,
repectively, as Sekhet and Ptah. From a Nibiruan linguistic
standpoint, they could be referred to as Baron Ninurta and Baroness
Bau.]

ISHKUR, LORD OF ANATOLIA AND GO- OF THE OLD TESTAMENT

The youngest son of Enlil, ISH-KUR or "He of the Mountain Land" was
assigned Anatolia as his domain. Ishkur attempted some inroads into
the politics of Mesopotamia, but mostly he limited his activities
to trying to extend his sphere of influence and control over Palestine
or Canaan.
[Editor: Don't forget that Anatolia was the "Land of the Amazons and
Lesbos," the legendary "Birth -oddesses" who revolted against the
Emperor and Empress, causing the Eva to have to be created by Chief
Medical Officer and Geneticist, the Queen Ninkhursag/Isis. For
additional details, see the Sitchin material.]
Better known by his Semitic name Adad, he was the g-d of thunder
and lightning. He is often depicted holding the forked lightning
bolt.
Adad was in all probability the Yahweh (Jehovah) of the Old
Testament who tried to use Abraham at first, and later Moses, to
extend his sphere of influence over the land of Canaan. This role is
discussed below.
[Editor: This is flat wrong. Enlil was the Yahweh/Jehovah of the
Bible. And this editor takes great issue with Zecharia Sitchin's
attempt in his latest book "Divine Encounters," final chapter, to
disassociate the Yahweh of J-wish tradition from the Nibiruan
Pantheon. To put it quite bluntly, this was a terrible "cop-out" on
Sitchin's part. He simply cannot have it both ways.]

THE NIBIRUAN TABLETS OF DESTINY

Control over the operations of the cities and the activities of
mankind was exercised through a system of directives and formulas
called the MEs in Sumerian. The exact meaning of the word is lost in
antiquity, but it seemed to denote a set of rules or regulations
assigned to every entity and phenomenon to keep it operating
successfully.
[Editor: These MEs are discussed by Sitchin in great detail in
"The Wars of -ods and Men," as well as by the authors of "Hamlet's
Mill Appendix 39.]
Sometimes they appear to be physical objects that one could pick up
and carry. Possession of the ME gave the owner absolute control of a
certain aspect of life or behavior. Perhaps they were something like
our present-day computer chip on which data and operational orders
were inscribed, and were used to activate a piece of equipment. In
the Hamlet's Mill myth "Enki and the World Order," the MEs appear to
control an aircraft under the command of Enki. In this story, Enki
is described as the "Lord who drives the great MEs. "The MEs were in
the possession of Enki and were released gradually and sparingly to
benefit Mankind. Our primary source of information on them is the
story "Inanna and Enki" where civilization is divided into over 100
elements, each of which required a ME to keep it functioning.
Some 60 odd ones are readable in this myth and they include, for
example, kingship, priestly office, wisdom, peace, counsel, judgment,
falsehood, art, musical instruments, weapons, libel, pro-titution,
law, and the destruction of cities.
[Editor: This sounds like Archons of Destiny stuff again. Perhaps
the highest strata of Nibiruan Royal Society are really the "Archons
of Destiny." You are again referred to
http://www.apollonius.net/archons.html
This myth concerns the successful attempt of Inanna to extract some
of these MEs from Enki. According to the story, Enki had prepared a
sumptuous feast to entertain the beautiful, but ambitious,
granddaughter of Anu. Seeing that Enki had drunk too much wine and
was inebriated, the opportunistic Inanna saw her chance and asked Enki
for seven major MEs to which he foolishly agreed.
These MEs embraced the functions necessary for running a city, such
as, how to manage a temple, the art of warfare and weapons, music and
the arts, scribeship and mathematics, and many wood and metal crafts.
[Editor: Don't forget that Utu was the secret lover of Inanna and
was eventually known as "the g-d of music and song" and the inventor
of the flute and the lyre. She probably gave him the secrets of music,
which she obtained from her deception of Enki.]
Later when Enki sobered up, he realized what he had done and sent
his chamberlain by swift "boat of heaven" to pursue the fleeing Inanna
and retrieve the MEs. [Editor: Remember how she cruised all over
the Sirius Sector in pursuit of Duke Dumuzi and as a result set off
the Pyramid Wars?] Inanna managed to outwit Enki's messenger, however,
and she arrived at her adopted city of Uruk much to the acclaim of the
citizenry. Inanna boasted that, for all practical purposes, she was
now a ruler for she had the official trappings and authority of a
monarch.
These MEs would not only confer authority to the owner but absolute
power as well, by making the owner of certain MEs impregnable to
weapons. This attribute is described in the Sumerian story of "The
Myth of Zu." As a -od serving as retainer to Enlil, Zu plotted a
palace revolution by trying to seize control of the Tablets of Destiny
that Enlil had carelessly left unattended. It was previously suggested
that the culprit who attempted the coup d'etat was probably none other
than Nannar/Sin.
As Enlil was taking a bath, Zu conceived the idea of stealing the
MEs or Tablets of Destiny, contending that these divine decrees would
give him control over the Anunnaki and Mankind and place him in
command of the pantheon.
Zu made good his boast and escaped with the Tablets. The pantheon
was thrown into complete disarray by this alarming development. Enlil
declared that someone must retrieve the MEs to prevent Zu from
usurping the authority of the -ods.
But it seemed that control of the MEs also made Zu impregnable,
giving him the ability to deflect and nullify all weapons sent
against him.
Exploding arrows, sounding suspiciously like rocket missiles, were
launched against him but were deflected by some sort of forcefield
around the "mountain" redoubt that Zu had fortified.
Finally, Enki forged a new special weapon in his laboratory. It was
given to Ninurta, the military aid of Enlil, who finally defeated Zu
and brought him back to the airship for trial. Thus ended the worst
threat ever experienced by the Sumerian ruling deities.
[Editor: Sitchin makes this "Zu" equal Marduk. See his book "The
Wars of G-ds and Men."]

Part 1.

John Winston john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Due to the fact that they are spraying us with Chemtrails nearly
every day, here in Sonora, Calif. I thought it might be nice to say
something about them. The latest unusual sight I made of them was
the fact that 4 tanker jets were going alone nearly together laying
down their trails at one time nearly directly over Sonora.
Today,I will be quoting from a group which mainly posts things
about Chemtrails and also some more of my personal posting, which I
will not inlude. Here goes.

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 01:49:33 -0000
From: pocon...@bigfoot.com
Subject: FEMA - REX 84: Chemtrail Briefing - repost....
FEMA/REX84 CHEMTRAIL BRIEFING BY DEF-NCE INTELLIGENCE
by Karen Lyster
September 23, 2000
FEMA/REX84/Chemtrail Briefing
A Realistic Look at the Programs
There has been so much debate raging over the last year about the
Chemtrails and we still seem no closer to fully understanding what
exactly is taking place and who is responsible. What follows is a
briefing by an official from the Defe-se Intelligence, and a F-MA
Representative. Please understand that for security reasons I can not
use their names. Also please note that I have FULL permission to post
this on Themestream as the people concerned wish this information to
be accessable to as many people as possible.
FEM- / RE-84 / Chemtrail Briefing
A Realistic Look at the Programs
REX--4
This was a program established back in the 80's because of the need
to round up foreign nationals in time of a National Security
Emergency. If activated, troops and police, including Shadow Ops with
F-MA, would scour the country , and they already keep updated lists
on who immediately goes to these 'int-rnment camps' and round the
people (for-ign nationals) up and qua-antine them, like the Japanese
during WWII.
They almost activated it during the Gulf War in 1991 to intern Iraqi
personnel, and had plans to activate the program during Kosovo
Campaign. They ended up not needing to, but they would have rounded
up any Balkan Ethnic Person and interned them in that scenario. Now,
depending on the emergency, anyone disrupting normal economic
activity, through war protests, sabotage, etc. no matter citizenship
would quickly be sent to the in-ernment camps.
A person would have to be careful of what views they pointed out in
those dire times of mar-ial law if one wanted to remain free. These
are meant to keep internal security at the highest levels until the
crisis passes. And as FEM- would be in charge, temporarily suspending
the constitution, peoples rights would be out the window. Hence, you
would have to be extremely careful about you pol-tical views, and
your cooperation with the Agency directives about maintaining
critical infrastructure. Any refusal to cooperate would constitute
anti-gove-nment sentiment (non compliance) and probably get you a
train ride.
If you comply and continue to be productive, and watch your tongue,
obey curfews, you should be all right. Unless you have a profile that
indicates you are a fan-tic, or in a mi-itia. If so, you also would
be targeted. Now when the emergency is over and Constitutional
government is reinstated, these people would be set free. The problem
is F-MA determines when they will give the controlling authority
back, no one else. I feel fairly safe in my position knowing this
now. But I am sure many citizens, and foreign nationals would not be
happy to learn how they are viewed in the eyes of FE-A and National
Se-urity.
RE- 84 is a major contingent that is always ready to spring into
action at a moments notice, hence the camps being in an operational
state at all times. Most would be interned in the first 24 hours. I
hope this clears some of the theories as to what the intent is for
the F-MA -EX84 Program.
Now, in reference to deconta-ination, the g-v (DA-PA) has been
spraying chemtrails from civilian and military aircraft. This is part
of a special program noted below:
UNCONVENTIONAL PATHOGEN COUNTERMEASURES PROGRAM - CHEMTRAILS IN OTHER
WORDS.
<> Research and Development Areas :
Advanced Biological and Medical Technologies:
Biological Warfare Defense Unconventional Pat-ogen Countermeasures
The goal of the Unconventional P-thogen Countermeasures program is to
develop and demonstrate defensive technologies that afford the
greatest protection to uniformed war fi-hters, and the defense
personnel who support them, during U.S. mi-itary operations. While no
defense may stop a determined adversary from unleashing biological
weapon, a sufficiently robust array of pat-ogen defenses and
countermeasures - deterrents in their own right - will reduce the
probable damage that would result from bio-ogical weapons used in a
particular operation.
The most sinister offensive bio-ogical war-are scenario employs
surprise, immediate proximity, and rapidly let-al, persistent agents
in overwhelming quantities. Under these circumstances, real-time
sensing, donning of physical protection, and conventional nonmedical
countermeasures are only marginally effective. An effective
operational def-nse ideally requires instantly available or emplaced
countermeasures that can defeat bi-logical threats as they enter the
body and before they reach and attack target cells and tissues.
The focus of the Unconventional Pa-hogen Countermeasures program is
the development of revolutionary, broad-spectrum, me-ical
countermeasures against significantly pathogenic microorganisms
and/or their pa-hogenic products. These countermeasures will be
versatile enough to eliminate biological threats, whether from
natural sources or modified through bioengineering or other
manipulation. They will also have the potential to provide protection
both within the body and at the most common portals of entry (e.g.,
inhalation, ingestion, ranscutaneous).
Strategies include but are not limited to:
Defeat of a pathogen's ability to enter the body, traverse the
bloodstream or lymphatics, and enter target tissues.
Identification of novel pathogen vulnerabilities based on
fundamental, critical molecular mechanisms of survival or
pathogenesis (e.g., Type III secretion, cellular energetics,
virulence modulation).
Construction of unique, robust vehicles for the delivery of
countermeasures into or within the body.
Modulation of the advantageous and/or deleterious aspects of the
immune response to significantly patho-enic microorganisms and/or
their pathogenic products in the body.

WARFARE CHEMICALS BEING TESTED

The strange-looking streaks in the sky aren't your imagination. They
are anti-bacteri-logical warfare chemicals being tested by the
federal gove-nment. And the public has been kept in the dark.
The chemical spraying is the "Unconventional P-thogen Countermeasures
Program" of the top-se-ret Def-nse Advanced Research Projects Agency
(DARP-).
NOTE: Nov-vax is a bio pharma-euticals company. BC-P is made of
water, soybean oil, Triton X 100 detergent and the solvent tri-n-
butyl phosphate. B-TP envelops VIRUSES and SPORES, causing them to
explode and thus destroying them upon contact.

N-VAVAX AND DA-PA INVOLVED IN CHEMTRAIL CONSPIRACY

Nova-ax - http://www.novavax.com/
BC-P's research studies were funded by the De-ense Advanced Research
Projects Agency (D-RPA). BC-P appears to inactivate the virus on
contact. The U-M and No-avax have filed a patent application covering
BC-P's use as a decontamination agent for various anti-microbial
applications.

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:18:17 -0800 PST)
From: robert johnson <haar...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Chemtrails
Atlanta has had three "perfect sky" days... today,2/6,
is going to ba a spray day...9am and the first line is
being drawn over my house at exactly 9am.
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John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Many moons ago I heard about a person from England, who was the
present incarnation of Ezekial, one of the prophets of the Old
Testament. He is now dead but while he was alive his name was
Joseph Busby. He was a very interesting person and lectured
at many places throughout the world. He even lectured at the
University of Calif. at Santa Barbara.
I found out that he was going to be in the San Francisco Bay
Area at Los Gatos, Calif. and made an appointment to see him. I
showed up at the house where he was staying and met his wife who
served as his secretary and person who screened the people to see
if they were OK before they talked with Joseph Busby. After talking
to the lady for a while she made the statement, "Don't I know you?
Then I added that she probably did because I was alive during the
time Je--s was on Earth and I listened to him speak at Capernium
while he was talking in the local synagogue. She then told me that
she was alive during that time also. I asked her what her name was
then but she sort of came to herself and told me that she doesn't
tell that information to many people. I understood and didn't
question her any more. It then was time to talk to Joseph so she
and I got up and I shook her hand. The energy from me went into
her arm and into her body. The energy then came back to me and
went back into her. Her knees nearly buckled and she nearly fell
down. I then went into to see Joseph.

He was a nice person about 72 years old at the time. He had a
great voice and talked in a King's English sort of a brogue. After
talking with him for a while I asked him if he was the present
incarnation of the prophet Ezekial. He then said, "My dear Mr.
Winston, I prefer to not bask in the effulgence of a previous lifetime.
It's only important what you are doing now." I then asked him what
the Wheel In A Wheel was. He then said, "My dear Mr. Winston. The
Wheel In A Wheel was a space craft that picked up Ezekial from the
area where he was, (The sides of the River Chebar as mentioned in
the next part of this material.) transported him to another place
hundreds of miles away, came back and picked him up sometime later and
brought him back to the same spot. That's approximately what he said.
I took Joseph's newsletter for many years. At times they would
communicate with the other side and one time they were told that a
necklace worth thousands of dollars was going to be transmitted to
them to finance a certain project. Joseph and his friends gathered
together and the necklace came through into the physical, they sold
it and used the money to finance the project. Now we go into the
material at hand.

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The presence of similar symbols of authority are mentioned in the
Scriptures where it is often stated that the possession of certain
"divine names" conferred extraordinary power. Were the MEs of the
Sumerians the same as the divine names of the Scriptures?
When Enoch, the antediluvian Patriarch, was deified upon his ascent
to the "heavenly abode," he was given "seventy names," according to
the "Hebrew Apocalypse of Enoch." Also called the "First Book of
Enoch," this document is believed to have originated in Babylonian
J-wry and is attributed to the Rabbi Ishmael, the renowned Palestinian
scholar who died in 132 AD.
These seventy names conferred power and authority on Enoch second
only to the chief deity. The "divine names" gave Enoch the power to
smite kings, elevate the humble, subdue rulers, confer wisdom, make
judgments, and "control the procession of time and the seasons."
Presumably, the latter meant the authority to adjust the calendar
when necessary, such as when worldwide catastrophe made the old
calendars obsolete.

JW Now we go into chapter 2.

FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS
B. A. Boulay

1990
Editorial Comments By
Roberto Sol`rion )1997

THE ANTEDILUVIAN CITIES AND THEIR PURPOSE

"When the Kingship had come down from Heaven, Anu founded the five
cities, gave them their names, apportioned their uses.
The first of these cities Eridu, he gave to the leader Nudimmud
[an epithet for Enki]."

From the Sumerian Story of Creation

According to the Sumerian King List, there were only five cities
which held the kingship before the Deluge or, in other words, which
served as capital cities to the antediluvian Anunnaki. The order in
which they are given is the succession in which they ruled, although
they were probably all built at about the same time.
The reason for moving the capital from one city to the other may have
been political; on the other hand, the shifting of the water courses
due to periodic flooding and the drying up of the southern part of
the Mesopotamian Valley, as the climate changed, may have been the
compelling reason for moving the capital to more northern and readily
accessible cities.
Strangely enough, the King List does not mention the cities of Uruk
and Nippur which were also built before the Deluge. These were
designed as ceremonial and sacred cities, which probably accounts for
their being left out of the King List. The five cities of the King
List were strictly operational cities.
They were operational cities built by Enki and his engineer
astronauts for the express purpose to obtain rare metals, processing
them, and ferrying the ingots to the orbiting mother ship. The five
cities were a cohesive group, each providing an essential function
to the main purpose of the expedition. Their function is alluded to
in their names, and are as follows:

John F. Winston

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HERIDU, OPERATIONAL HEADQUARTERS OF ENKI

Literally "Home Built Far Away," E-RI-DU was the first city to
assume the directed all operations on Earth, as he supervised the
draining of the marshlands, the raising of the cities, the
establishment of agriculture and animal husbandry, and generally
making the land more hospitable and productive.
From Eridu, Enki also directed the development of the mines,
presumably in Africa, the transportation of the ores, and the
processing of the metals at Badtibira. Eridu was the first city
built on this planet, which probably gave our world its name - Earth,
the third planet in our solar system. The origin of the word
"Earth" is unknown and its origin lost in antiquity, but logically
and linguistically it can be traced back to Eridu.
[Editor: As a trained linguist, I can also see this connection.
Remember what I have previously discussed about consonant strings
and aspiration. Well, the consonant string in Eridu = RD, and the
consonant string in Earth = RT (H rarely counts). T and D are
paired consonants in linguistics; they are formed in exactly the
same way by the muscles of the mouth, but D requires use of the
vocal cords. Try it! On the other hand, Enki's alternative name
was Ea, which just coincidentally happens to occur in the word
Earth. However, as we know from Sitchin, our planet's original
name before the Nibiruan arrival was Tiamat.] The name assigned to
their planet by its occupants can be traced back to the root Eridu.
In Old High German, Earth is Erda; it is Erthe in Middle English,
Era in Greek, Ereds in Aramaic, and Eretz in Hebrew, to name just
a few. It seems that all philological roads lead back to the first
city built on this planet by our alien forefathers - Eridu.

BADTIBIRA, THE METALS PROCESSING CENTER

The name BAD-TIBIRA means "city where the ores are processed." In
the King List it retained kingship for the longest time of all the
cities, almost half of the period of time recorded before the Deluge,
which is indicative of its primary importance among the cities.
Sumerian "tibira" is derived from the same proto-Sumerian substrata
word as Hebrew "tubal," which means "metal worker." This relationship
is seen in Ge-esis wherein Tubal-Cain, the son of the Patriarch
Lamech, is credited with the invention of metals: "Tubal-Cain, who
forged the various implements of copper and iron."
Badtibira was the first strictly operational city built by Enki
and reflects the reason the Anunnaki came here - to obtain and
process certain metals, presumably gold and silver, and perhaps
other rare metals. [Editor: They needed this gold, as we know, to
reinforce the heat-shield around their Planet Nibiru.]
The King List assigns the city of Badtibira to Nugig or NU-GIG which
means "he of the bright sky" and was an epithet for Nannar, the
favorite son of Enlil.
Arriving by ship from the African mines, the ores would be processed
at Badtibira into transportable form and then would be shuttled up to
the mother ship to be eventually shipped to the home planet. For this
reason, a beacon city was needed to guide the incoming and outgoing
shuttles.

LARAK, THE SPACE CONTROL CENTER

The name LA-RA-KA means "see the bright light" and the third city
assigned the kingship. Its name indicates its function, that of
guiding the metal freighters arriving and leaving Mesopotamia. The
King List has the city assigned to Pabilsag, meaning "the great
protector" and it was one of the titles of Ninurta, the military
aide of Enlil who recovered the MEs from the rebel son Zu. Little is
known of this city, and like that of Badtibira has not been located
archaeologically. [Editor: Ninurta in Egypt was Ptah; Zu or Marduk in
Egypt was Amon-Ra, the Baal of the Bible.]

SIPPAR, THE SPACE LAUNCH PLATFORM

The fourth city built was SIP-PAR or "Bird City." It was the landing
platform for the space shuttles, especially those hauling metal
cargo.
One of the Sumerian myths states that this city was built for the
got---- Utu, one of the circle of seven great g-ds who decreed the
fates.
Better known as Shamash, his Akkadian and Semitic name, Utu was
chief of the astronauts. When the space platform and related
activities were moved to the Western Lands [Editor: ie, Sinai] after
the Deluge, Shamash was placed in charge of the space city of
Baalbeck as well as the land of Lebanon. [Editor: This is slightly
incorrect. Prince Utu was the Nibiruan Space Commander at the Sinai
Spaceport; Princess-Royal Inanna was Nibiruan Airfleet Commander at
the Baalbeck Airport, although she was under the direct command of
her brother and secret lover, Prince Utu. See:
http://www.apollonius.net/hellespontiacus.
Since it was "the stairway to the stars," Sippar was of major import
among the antediluvian cities. Its sole king Enmeduranna literally
means "the Lord whose MEs bond Heaven and Earth," an allusion to
his ability to control the flights between Sippar and the orbiting
ship.
Enmeduranna was himself the hero of a Sumerian tradition which has
him transported to heaven, much the same as the B-blical Enoch who was
also translated to heaven. The evidence that identifies Enoch as
Enmeduranna is found in the writings of the Pseudepigrapha discussed
below.
SHURUPPAK, THE CHIEF MEDICAL CENTER

The fifth city to be built was SHU-RUP-PAK, or "the place of utmost
well being." This city was dedicated to the Chief Nurse and Medical
Officer of the Expedition, the Go-dess Ninkhursag. She tended to the
medical and health needs of the Anunnaki, and to a certain extent to
the needs of humans, from her temple atop the ziggurat at Shuruppak.
http://www.apollonius.net/hellespontiacus.html

URUK, THE SACRED CITY OF THE GREAT -OD ANU

Uruk or "Great City" was dedicated to the chief g-d Anu. Its temple
atop the ziggurat was the ceremonial center for Sumer. It was his
residence when away from his space city and on visits to Earth, which
became less frequent as the world became more populated. Anu's
influence seems to have declined in the days just before the Deluge
and his authority was taken over by Enlil. Since he rarely used his
ceremonial city, Anu turned it over to Inanna at her request. [Editor:
Anu and Inanna were lovers for a long time.] She institutionalized her
control over the city of Uruk by obtaining the necessary controls and
authorities in the MEs which she extracted from Enki, as we have seen.

NIPPUR, ADMINISTRATIVE CENTER OF ENLIL

This was the city dedicated to Enlil and where he ruled from his
Ekur or "house on the mountain." At Nippur, Enlil exercised supreme
command over all the Anunnaki on Earth before the Deluge.
One of the hymns dedicated to him provides a graphic description of
a control center bristling with communications and other electronic
equipment scanning the horizons. From the Ekur, it was said that
Enlil's "eye scans the land" and "his lifted beam searches the heart
of all the lands."
Nippur was rebuilt after the Deluge as his sacred city. It is also
the city where, according to the "Third Book of Enoch" that the Lord
kept his "Shekinah" or space craft, at the entrance of the Garden of
Eden until the days of Enoch when he abruptly left for his heavenly
abode, never to return except on special occasions. It was also at
Nippur, at the River Chebar, that Ezekiel first saw the "fiery
chariot" which is described so vividly in the "Book of Ezekiel."
[Editor: If you ever pass through Pittsburg, Texas, have lunch or
dinner at Warrick's Restaurant - excellent Cajun type food. They
have a life-sized replica of the Ezekiel Airship sitting right there
in the middle of the restaurant, next to where the Samoan band plays
on the weekends. Yes, this is true!]

John F. Winston

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Here is a friend of mine who is starting back up a News Group or

sometimes called an echo.


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Topic: Future & format of 'Global Progressions'

To All Members,

It has been decided that 'Global Progressions' will continue, albeit

in a far less formal format.

Begun in the summer of '00, 'GP' started as a conventional monthly

electronic-magazine. Due to the personal commitments of its

publisher/editor, involving the care of a terminally ill immediate

family member, the monthly tome went on hiatus in early Fall '00.

'GP' now returns, but not as a regular monthly magazine. Instead, what

you will receive are regular "NEWS DISPATCHES", approx. 1 to 2 per

month, containing original articles and/or analysis of mainstream news

items. Additionally, one 'GP' regular contributor, John F. Winston,

will continue with us in this new format. (The other contributor, Doug

Taylor, will not. This is due to the fact that, as he himself

explained when first joining 'GP' last summer, his monthly

compilations of prophecy would cease at the end of 2000. So,

obviously, the dawning of '01 saw the end of Taylor's prophecy notes.)

The 'globalprogressions' list description has been updated to reflect

our new direction. It now reads:

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accounts, and editorials - all of which document/chronicle worldwide

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seemingly disparate events. Plus, articles written/forwarded by John

F. Winston, 'netizen-at-large known for documenting personal accounts

from the so-called "edges of reality".

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Feb 13, 2001, 6:00:38 PM2/13/01
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Subject: Are You Feeling Blue? These People Surely Do.

Feb. 12, 2001.


Here is something that a person sent me about some strange people.


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From: S M

Subject: Humanoid Info.

Hello! I have just read what you wrote about humanoids.. well there

is this race called Moon Eyes.. I think maybe they might even have a

base here in Zimbabwe. There is a place that is called the Inyanga

mountains and there are talks from the people there who say they have

seen people with blue skins.. they even think that the place is

sacred and people who have come to visit this place are not allowed

to explore the mountains with movie camera, or anything that will

enable them to take pictures.. if you want to visit this place you

first have to go to a local chief who does some spiritual stuff then

you are told something.. well I am not sure what.. the BBC did visit

this place and if you contact them and ask them about the Inyanga

mountains in eastern Zimbabwe, they will tell you a lot...

Warm regards..

S

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John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Feb 14, 2001, 11:36:16 AM2/14/01
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Subject: Let's Hear It For Lady Kadjina. Feb. 13, 2001.

Here is some material from a person called Lady Jadjina. I've
never heard of her before so let's listen to what she has to say.
This material may be channeled, so be careful.

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From: V
Subject: A Message from Lady Kadjina
INTERESTING INFORMATION?? V
July 9, 1999

Emotions and Space Events

Today I wish to discuss with you your emotions and manifestation in
relationship to space events. Previously we have discussed
manifestation as being the end result of your emotional energies
ratified by your mental energy. Many of you are aware that there are
many happenings or events in space. I wish to discuss some of these
events with you.

One of the major energies in space is that constructed under the
supervision of Lords Michael and Metatron. This is a protective
shielding that completely encapsulates our beloved planet, Gaia. It
has been decreed by these two powerful archangels that nothing
whatsoever will be able to penetrate this shielding without their
specific consent. There are objects beyond this protective shielding
under the control of the dark energies.
They are not allowed to penetrate this shielding. At the same
time, all energetics on the inside of this protective shielding
cannot leave without consent. A mandate has been issued to these
dark energies: Turn to the Light now, or you will be removed. The
great majestic being known to you as Lord Lucifer has at this time
made the decision to return to the Light. He has persuaded many of
his thoughtforms - or those forms which he himself has constructed
or under his jurisdiction - to now turn to the Light. The entity
known to you as Satan has also turned to the Light. However, many of
his created thoughtforms have taken on a type of life of their own
and have broken free of his authority. These thoughtforms are at
least fifty thousand years old, if not more. Hence, they have gained
great power and strength.
These are the thoughtforms that are the primary influence of what
some refer to as the cabals - those humans in control of your
socio-political-economic factors. It is to these great thoughforms
that the mandate has been issued.
They will be removed if they fail to cooperate and this will
happen within the next six months. When they have been removed, the
pressure and influence will no longer be enshrouding the power
structures of your planet's many fields of expression. These humans
will then have choices of their own to make unencumbered by outside
influences. Many of these individuals will begin to move within a
higher pattern of thoughtforms in relationship to that which they
influence.

As of this moment in time, I wish to share with you the
understanding that the European money markets are now under a strong
influence of a presently-incarnated master. Also, the Labor Movement
of Great Britain is under the influence of a very high level Initiate.
Also, both St. Germain and the Lord Je--s are in physical
manifestation but not born of a woman. Lord Jes-- at this time is in
a Serbian body.
Lady Selena and her group have set up what we call call a composite
etheric physicality in the region of Tel Aviv. They have constructed
a ley line grid system connecting Tel Aviv directly to the crown
chakra and the heart chakra and the throat chakra of Lady Gaia, your
beloved planet Earth. This same grid system is also connected in
very powerful feedback energetics to both the Bimini Islands off of
Florida and the area of the Bermuda Triangle which is a triangulation
to Tel Aviv of ancient Atlantean wisdom and healing energetics.

The Bermuda Island and the whirlwind activities that you are
familiar with are caused by a great crystal that completely covers
the entire Hall of Learning. This great hall has been preserved
intact. At the times of certain planetary and cosmic events, certain
energetics interact with this great crystal which has been programmed
to respond to these energetics. Most of that programming has been
stilled and quieted but in order to preserve the Hall of Learning
intact, it is necessary to maintain a certain frequency exchange from
time to time. However, not all aircraft accidents have been averted.
But these unfortunate accidents (from your point of view) have
resulted in tremendous changes of consciousness of those involved
in the accidents and consequently great blessings have come forth.
Many of your scientists are aware that this great crystal is rising
and she should break the crest of the waters within the next 3-5
years of your earth time. When this event happens, it will not be
without warning to the people to the people who live in the gulf
island region.
Already the volcanoes are emitting warnings to leave the area.
All beings in the region with capabilities of intuitive development
are in process of leaving. As events escalate, more will follow.
Those who choose to remain do so because their ability to develop
intuitively is not accessed.
Those who leave the planet in that region shall be shown great
mercy and compassion.

During the timeframe of the great world wars, many beings left the
planet in a state of great duress. In the current timeframe, methods
have been established by which departing souls will be allowed to
leave without the stress. They will leave what is familiar to them
and immediately be relocated in their new placement which will be
exactly like unto that which they have just left. For those re-igious
groups who are believing that they will be the only ones saved, these
will awaken in their new placement believing that they are indeed
the saved. But for these the wars and the diseases will continue and
for these the way home will be long and difficult. But bear in mind,
always, it is their choice and they will be given that which gives
them comfort and security. There are certain beings upon the planet
at this time so embedded in their self-serving agenda that they have
completely lost the capacity for growth. These beings shall be
returned to their primordial state of being in which they had no
consciousness at all and they shall start over from what you call from
scratch. It is as if they will go back in time many millions of years
and start over.

At this point in our discussion, I will digress and give each of you
a strong admonition to make no judgements on any personality. Do not
allow yourself to become emotionally entangled in the casting of
judgements.
Simply know that the conditions of this planet are moving forward
into the Light at a greater pace than anyone has imagined possible.
Even those of us who have come to assist from many places within
and without your galaxy stand in awe, wonder, and amazement at what
has been accomplished by a very powerful minority of lightworkers in
a very short timeframe. All of us on this side of life commend you
greatly.

The master Joshua, during the 1960s, predicted to his group that
at the turn of this century, great and wondrous teachers would be
working via the computer systems and that these computer systems
would have the ability to create one humanity. And this has become
manifested. And it has been accomplished through the power of the
emotions, for it has been the emotions of what you call blood, sweat,
and tears.
Those of you - and you know who you are - who have you websites and
consider yourselves to be the peace troubadors know well the tears
you have shed for humanity in its plight.
Those of you who know the wonderment of the ancient trees and have
fought to preserve them know well your tears and grief.
And those of you who have struggled so valiently to bring forth
the new healing technologies and equipment and have had to contend
with those agencies that have struggled to sit on you and put you
under the thumb know well your tears and frustrations. However,
each of you has emotionally endured and found the strength of those
emotional-heart convictions of truth and the power of your mind has
underwritten and sanctioned your various projects. Within the next
three years, in the year 2003, a great cosmic event will transpire
with the coming of a planet from your galaxy. It is coming with
great speed and heralds a tremendous awakening. It will be the great
cosmic Aha and will break up primarily the r-ligious gridlocks of
the masses of those within those systems and many will find the
beginnings of their freedoms. I would also say to you that those
beings who are here only for their own self-gratifying agendas will
find that their agendas will fail them. The Lightworkers are assured
victory. Your battle is over. The mandate is issued: Turn to the
Light or we will remove you. The win is yours. Rejoice.

I speak. I am Lady Kadjina from time beyond ancient Atlantis. We
- all of us - give you great admiration and comfort and we give
peace. So be it. We have spoken.

http://www.mayanmajix.com

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Feb 15, 2001, 2:14:49 AM2/15/01
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Subject: TV Show About UFOs This Friday. Feb. 14, 2001.

If all goes well, a person will be conducting a TV show this
Friday night. Here are the particulars.

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From: "John M. Novak" <soverei...@home.com>
Subject: Friday Night Event
James Gilliland
February 16, 2001 7-9 PM
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John F. Winston

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Feb 16, 2001, 11:37:06 AM2/16/01
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Subject: How Were The Crystal Skulls Made? Feb. 15, 2001.

I've seen Max The Crystal Skull and always wondered how it was
made. In the second part of this material some information is given
about it. This comes from Lady Kadjina and she may be channeling
this, so be careful.

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From: S
Subject: Lady Kadjina - geography and inhabitants
http://www.citiesoflight.net/ladyk.html
Lady Kadjina Speaks
January 13, 2001
Wayne: What can you tell me about the legendary place
called Agartha and how it might be connected with the
earth's underground civilizations?
LK - Agartha is legendary in the same sense that Shamballa
is legendary. I would digress just a little to remind you that,
as your physical body has what you call a "body double,"
so do both Shamballa and Agartha. There is an etheric
Shamballa in the area of the Gobi Desert, but there is also a
physical Shamballa in a very remote, very deep ravine-like
area in the Himalayas. It is so deep that the base has running
water and beautiful plants and flowers.
Agartha is very much the same. There is an Agartha in the
etheric realm in the remote area of Mongolia north of the
populated areas of China. In the area of Mongolia you have
the sacred priesthood; you have beings of great antiquity.
And in the areas of the mountains, there is a place called
Agartha. It would be as the physical body double of the
etheric body. And in this place there are pathways. And the
priests of the outer world are able to take spiritual journeys
into the inner world. There are connections to the spi-itual
essences of Agartha to some of the beings of the inner world.
Primarily this is a connection with the more sp-ritually
advanced.
You must understand that Planet Earth is designed to be a
planet of dualities or challenges. And those who chose to
hide away from the difficulties and who chose to remain
hidden away do not evolve as quickly spir-tually. So their
connection with sp-ritual domains and with the outer worlds,
whether based on the planet Earth itself or in the galaxy, are
for informational purposes, somewhat like tuning into your
newscasts. They also ask for information as to the s-iritual
evolvement of the humans who dwell upon planet Earth from
the standpoint of, "is it safe to return?"
At this point, I would like to say that many of the
underground beings have passed into the world that is known
as death and have made the decision to reincarnate into the
planet Earth in the upper worlds. There are not nearly so many
left living in the inner worlds. The beings on the inner
worlds exist from the more third dimensional or denser
physical beings to those that are very etheric. The very
etheric beings are definitely sp-ritual beings who act as
guardians for those who are denser. It is the most dense of
beings that have been removed from the area of Mt. Shasta.
However, those who are etheric in nature are still located
in the area of Mt. Shasta.
The great devas, the great angels, and the great teachers
are still located in the area of Mt. Shasta. As we have said
before, it is time for those of the inner world to emerge. This
means that many of them will die and then reincarnate upon
the outer worlds of the planet. The law is that when you
choose to hide away, you can only evolve spir-tually to a
certain point, but you cannot truly ascend.
Wayne: Can you tell me more about the ancient histories of
Agartha and Shamballa?
There are two realms to each of these places - the etheric and
the physical. Each is a heart center for a great civilization of
people. When the ancient civilization reached their demise,
the sacred knowledge and sacred energies were kept intact
by the sacred priesthoods of each of the two cities in hopes
that in the future time, the sacred knowledge could be
released once more to the peoples. In these two cities were
the dwelling places of the great masters. In Shamballa it
was Sanat Kumera and the 24 great Kumeras. In Agartha it
would be the lineage of the great Buddha, Lord Krishna, and
those of the more Eastern traditions.
The etheric counterparts of each of these two great cities are
for the purpose of energetic connections to grid works. And
each is the dwelling place of the etheric forms of the great
masters. And each is connected directly to what we call the
Master Plane. Then the Master Plane also is interactive with
the Causal Plane, or the Plane of Learning. These two planes
are very interactive at this time. Those in human form can
only go to the Causal Plane when escorted by their master
teachers, and only those who are masters in human form are
allowed to go to the Master Plane.
Agartha at one point in time was very interactive with
Pangaea and also with Lemuria. And spi-itual essences are in
safekeeping in the third dimensional heart center of Agartha
and in turn are overseen by the ancient masters in the etheric
realm of Agartha. And it works much the same way with the
City of Shamballa, Shamballa's connection being more with
Atlantis and with the energetics of the Bimini area.
(At this point, Wayne asks for clarification as to how
Shamballa could be connected with Atlantis, given the physical
distance, and this leads to some confusion on Kay's part
relative to geography between the Gobi Desert, Saudi Arabia,
Mongolia, and the Himalayas, as she had always connected
the Gobi Desert in her mind with Saudi Arabia)
This is Lady Kadjina, and I must say that I am amused and
tickled at this point. And I'm going to have to tell on Kay.
Back in the mid-60s, Kay was a student of the Master Joshua,
who spoke of the etheric city of light called Shamballa located
over the Gobi Desert. She later asked a fellow student, whom
she considered to be quite knowledgeable, "Where is the
Gobi Desert?" He responded, "The Gobi Desert is over
Saudi Arabia." In the ensuing years, I have often spoken of
the activities of the city of light over Saudi Arabia, which she
assumed to be Shamballa. So this leads to a third city that we
will discuss later.
So, at this point I will do some clarification, now that we have
our geography straightened out. It is not always possible for
me to override a deeply embedded truth, even though it was
only an error in geographical locations. At this point, I would
like to say that Agartha and Shamballa are sister cities. Each
embeds a particular tradition of belief systems, Agartha being
the traditions of the East and Shamballa those traditions of
the West. They have each placed their wisdom in the Tibetan-
Mongolian regions because these are areas that are most
protected on the planet.
At one time, Atlantis and Lemuria had great exchanges going
on between them. They were very much like sister continents.
And at that time, there was great compatibility in their spi-itual
essences. However, Lemuria was very much concerned with
seeing G-d around and about in plants, animals, rocks and
crystal formations. They specialized in that understanding and
they connected themselves energetically with the totality of life
formations.
Atlantis, on the other hand, had a sp-rituality based upon the
inner kingdoms, the inner worlds. You can relate this to the
understandings of the macrocosm and the microcosm. Vera
Stanley Adler, in her writings, spoke of astral travel into the
vastness of the outer worlds and then immediately traveling
to the inner worlds of her own physicality wherein she found
suns and moons and planets and great devic beings. And this
is the reason that we call Shamballa and Agartha sister cities.
A truly spi-itually integrated being has the capability to
relate totally to all of life, both within the outer worlds of
all dimensions as well as the inner worlds, and will in the
immediate future connect all of the components of their inner
worlds and then plug into the grid systems of the outer worlds
of Lady Gaia, our beloved Mother Earth, and then to the grid
systems of the great Mothers of our outer worlds. I am most
anxious to speak of the areas of the Arabian Desert.
Wayne: Yes, I sense your anxiety to get to that area, but I
have some further questions that I feel are important about
defining the physical nature of Shamballa and Agartha. Were
Shamballa and Agartha also great physical Cities of Light
and if so, could you describe their physical natures -
appearance, layout, etc.?
LK - Yes, they were great cities. They would be like the heart
of great cities. They were the great centers. And the two sister
cities are connected through tunnel works of the inner realms
of the planet. Now, remember that in the very ancient of
times they had hovercraft that could go straight up and down
and this was a common mode of transportation. And also
keep in mind, that the ancient priesthoods of each of these
two great cities could teleport their physicality at will. The
great city of Shamballa in its physicality was also located in
the outer areas of the Himalayas on the Mongolian side of
the Himalayas. And so there was a considerable amount of
exchange in all of the areas of human activities, from
commerce to philosophy, to the study of spirit-al law and
truth.
The physical beings from Shamballa were small in frame
from approximately 4'-7" to approximately 5'-8". They were
slender in build and looked very similar to the Tibetan Monks
of today. In the very ancient of times their homes were built
of materials imported through the use of the spacecraft from
many worlds. They were proficient in the use of crystals and
in the use of materials similar to sandstone. They were
masters of the Ayurvedic sciences.
Those of Agartha had great love for their animals. They had
great love for writing. They had a great love for all of the
realms of nature and evolved into a very nomadic race of
people over a period of many millennia. They loved to stay
connected to the Earth. And it was to this area that many
from Lemuria translocated, keeping in mind that the
Lemurians were greatly connected to the outer physical
realm. Over a period of time they built homes more from
earth substances and became a civilization of using tents and
they would move from place to place. The Phoenicians, who
were great travelers, eventually came forth from this region.
Note: there seemed to be a reluctance to talk further about the
nature of the physical cities of Shamballa and Agartha and to
get on with the discussion of the Saudi Arabian area that I
decided I would come back to Shamballa and Agartha at a
later date.
Wayne: What can you tell me about ancient etheric cities and
their physical counterparts in Saudi Arabia and the Arabian
Desert?
It is in this region that the great spi-itual beings of Marduk
have located. This particular city is a crystal city and it is also
the location of the great ruby cathedral of healing. And in
that it is so crystalline in its formation, it is one of the great
anchors for all of the planetary connection points that are
crystal in nature. It is a place of much great activity at this
time. One of the functions of this great city is to keep an eye
on all of the beings that have come to watch events unfold,
but who are not directly involved.

John F. Winston

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Subject: How Were The Crystal Skulls Made? Part 2 of 2.
Feb. 16, 2001.

I might add that Max The Crystal Skull contains no bone. It is
solid crystal and it is very hard.

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We have said before that there are four levels in the
stratosphere of Planet Earth, somewhat like a great football
stadium and that all four of these levels are currently filled
with beings that are watching, very similarly to those who
would assemble for a football game. They are not allowed to
enter the playing field itself, but they certainly clap and cheer
and jump up and down when you have made a great win, and
also let out great moans when you fumble the ball.
One of the functions of a particular group of beings from
the crystal city of Marduk is to make certain that no one in
the stadium throws trash upon the playing field. The visiting
beings would not really go to that extreme, but energetically
they might have difficulty in staying put. Many of them
would want to help if they saw a very dire situation unfolding
and had the capability to be of assistance.
Many of them are just like you who are human when you see
a car crash; you jump out and go to help, not realizing it may
be the method by which a soul has chosen to leave the planet.
But instead, you choose to hook them up to a life support
system for an indeterminate amount of time, thereby running
interference with soul purpose. Those in the bleachers and in
the stadium are not allowed to interfere in any way with the
soul purpose of Lady Gaia and all of the many life forms that
she supports.
But when good things do unfold, Lady Gaia is able to hear
their cheers and also during times of difficulties, when the
hearts of these observing beings want to send love, she is
aware of this even though she is not allowed to actually receive
the energies. There is no exchange allowed of any kind from
those in the stadium.
The etheric city of Marduk is located over a great city that
was once located upon the planet but has long since reached
its demise. The Arabian Desert, centuries and millennia ago,
was a thriving industrial civilization. It was involved in much
commerce. It was a civilization of great third dimensional
technologies. They traveled extensively by waterways. They
were the forerunners of computer systems. They also had
crafts similar to helicopters. They were a type of hovercraft
but had the propellers on top. They also had vehicles that
could go on both land and water.
They were a group very connected to grid systems, leylines,
and very connected to the earth. They were not essentially
etheric beings. Their teachers, who were Masters, were very
physical and very interactive with the masses of the people.
This particular group also introduced the histories by writing,
rather than by so much of the verbal. (Note: the name
Hamurabi was mentioned here by Lady Kadjina and because
Kay was not familiar with that name, there was some
confusion. Wayne decided to pursue the relationship of this
person with this place at another time and continue with the
description of Marduk.)
This civilization of people had great knowledge of the uses
of spice. There was great activity going on between Marduk
and the land now known as India and there was also great
activity with Africa.
Those from Marduk were a dark-skinned people and
exquisitely beautiful. They were lean but muscular and could
reach heights to approximately 6'-5". They also loved the
horses. They also loved color and their homes and their
cities were colorful, not so much of the paler whites and
sandstone colors, but very vibrant. The domes of many of
their buildings were inlaid with metallic substances of golds
and silvers and other substances of mineral ores, such as
coppers - but not copper as we know it now - and also
obsidian stones.
In that long-ago time, there was also a considerable amount of
agriculture in many of the outlying areas of the metropolitan
area. There were many forms of citrus and grapes. There
was also a type of tree that had very long - as much as 28
feet - very fine and soft fronds, from which they could weave
fabrics. And these fronds were of a soft orchid color rather
than green. There were trees that produced many types of
nuts and many peppercorns and other trees that had blossoms
wonderfully fragrant. And this is one of the things that
Marduk was known for.
When you entered the city, it was a city of wonderful
fragrance. Some of the nuts were ground smooth into
something very much like flour, out of which they made
breads and pastries. They also had vegetables very similar
to your orange pumpkin and orange-colored squash. They
used the fibers of these vegetables to make clothing and to
make a type of gauze in which they would wrap their wounds
and bruises. This was not a pumpkin, but somewhat similar.
One of their favorite pets was a smaller version of your
peacock. These birds would often ride on the arm or the
shoulder of the human. They also liked to ride on the rump
of the great horses.
This race of people was very matter-of-fact. They had good
common sense and they were a very practical people, well
connected and well grounded. Their sp-rituality focused
upon respect for the physical self and also the way they
treated one another, which also extended to high levels of
business ethics. They were known as being trustworthy in
business affairs so that neighboring countries would gladly
trade with them.
Wayne: What is the time frame for the peak of the Marduk
civilization?
Marduk was in its height about 20,000 years ago. When
Atlantis reached its demise, the earth's weather patterns went
through great changes and Marduk began a pattern of drying
up. This was a slow process, evolving over approximately
8,000 to 10,000 years, at the end of which time there was a
great earthquake that leveled much of the city. If there were
to ever be excavations of that area, remnants beneath the sand
could be found.
I believe it is in Egypt that they have found a city of tombs or
graves, something very similar can be found in the Arabian
Desert. When excavations begin, you will find many forms
of writings. You will also find many artifacts made from
substances such as the obsidian and something similar to
copper and objects of material that is green in color, similar to
jade, but not what you know as jade today. And you will also
find other objects made from the ruby.
Wayne: Can you be more specific about the location of
Marduk; was it focused along the Arabian Sea? (Kay points
to the area of the southern Arabian Peninsula and notes that
the land extended into the Arabian Sea and touched into the
area now known as Somalia and Ethiopia was all connected
south of Yemen and Oman and into the Arabian Sea. The
main civilization included the lower Arabian Desert in an area
now referred to at "the Empty Quarter" on some maps. She
seemed to imply that there was more water area where the Red
Sea now is.)
Wayne: A number of crystal skulls have been found around
the world, the most notable one supposedly from the area at
the ancient Mayan city of Lubaantun, in the islands of Belize
(formerly British Honduras). This particular one was
supposedly found - under an altar that had been covered by a
collapsed wall - by Anna Le Guillon, the daughter of F.A.
Mitchell-Hedges, in 1927 when she was 17, and it has been
described as impossible to manufacture because of its perfect
characteristics, or would take a human 300 years to make, with
extremely sophisticated tools that do not exist. What can you
tell me about the history and purpose of this skull?
This particular skull was not made of earth substance but was
materialized by their g-d when one of the priests was in deep
meditation. Its purpose was for the purpose of being able to
see into the time grid dimensions. This would give them the
ability to understand the components of time and space and
their relationship to events. And this is essentially the purpose
of all of the crystal skulls.
The Tibetans also have skulls and they work in a similar way
to the oracles of ancient Greece. But they were different in
that they were focusing upon the elements of time and space
and time travel. They had the ability to bring all components
of time into a focus of now. It was also a great factor in the
skill of shape shifting, for shape shifting has its basis in time
and space.
Through the use of this great crystal, the priest was able to
become very much like a snake or some type of lizard that
could walk straight up the sides of very slick buildings and
edifices. They could also enter into very crevice-like spaces
into inner chambers of certain hillsides and mountainsides,
into secret spaces. The focus of this crystal was not so much
to predict coming events, as it was to understand relationships
between time and space and purpose. It was through the use
of this great crystal that the great disk-shaped time calendar
was formulated.
As an aside, I would like to say here that Kay has no personal
knowledge of any of this information and is struggling with
placing words to what I am showing her, for she can see the
objects that I am describing to her, but is not able to place
a name to the object. She has always had difficulties with
names and also with geography. It is in this that Wayne has
a great role in clarifying, for he does have knowledge and
understanding of many of these things. Wayne knows about
this disk object used for a time-space calendar, and he would
know the name to give it.
Kay, on the other hand, has such an extensive blockage
to names in her consciousness that I am not able to do an
override. This is one of the reasons that I so enjoy working
with Kay, because she is so uneducated. I can say what I
wish to say without her running interference and the only
handicap that I have with Kay is essentially putting names to
objects and locations. And again, Wayne is able to do this.
I have found here a very unique duo in the personalities and
the emotional and mental worlds of these two earth beings.
They make a very unique and very wonderful team.
It was also through the use of this great crystal that the
priesthood was warned of the coming of the invaders so that
they could remove and preserve what they considered to be
their sacred truths and their wisdom. It was through the use
of the crystal that these people were able to shape-shift and
remove themselves from the forest areas and from their cities
and communities, and vanish.
To this date, few know where they went. Some of them
became animals; others became trees. Some returned to the
world of spir-t and others went into the areas of the Andes
Mountains and lived there. And some went into the area of
Mexico, in the city or the people - the name begins with
S - and they became cave dwellers. And the remnants of
these people are still living in the caves. And many of the
wise ones still live to be more than 100 years old. And they
hold to many sacred traditions.
This particular group has much respect for the wisdom of
the woman and for the wisdom of their elderly ones. Yet in
many of their ways, they seem to be a very primitive people.
They have evolved in this way out of necessity because of the
harshness of the land. They are thought to be Me-ican in
origin, but they are not; they are Mayan. Many of them are
still able to shape-shift.

Part 2 of 2.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: What Is "The Music Of The Spheres"? Feb. 17, 2001.

I find that a lot of people sing songs that use the words,
"Music Of The Spheres" but very few people can tell what they mean.
Here is something that may shed a little light on that subject.
Some of this information is channeled so be careful.

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From: f
Subject: Angels of Arisaka
ICQ 44588005 (EarthChanges)
A N-w Age Chatroom
From: S
From: "Spiritus Sanctus" <Spir...@mindspring.com>
http://www.iamthebeloved.com

The Angels of MusicPower Also known as The Angels of Arisaka

Beloved, we connect with you when you are humming or singing
the tones of the letters in the Cosmic Language. We guide you to
achieve perfect resonance in your voice with The Cosmic Divine
Sound Current. This electro-magnetic sound current is created by the
ecstasy and rapture of enlightened beings from many dimensions and
worlds who are united in consciousness with the Divine Virtues and
the One Being of the Unified Field. This current of sound is
referred to in mystical teachings as "The Music of the Spheres".
As a seeker advances on the path of enlightenment, the development
of greater and greater refinement makes it increasingly likely to
perceive the music of the spheres. In moments of great clarity,
receptivity to the heart as the ocean, and peacefulness, the symphony
of the music of the spheres comes through in all its beauty and
inspiration, at first as a very distant and faint melody. Welcome it
as you would a great blessing and rightfully take your place as an
elder who has taken the pledge to serve the spiritual hierarchy that
governs the world.
The song writers who have discovered the world's most beautiful
melodies have been tracking on this attunement.
As you can perceive this wonderful sound track, let the inspiration
move you to translate this music into song. Trust the inspiration to
come through you, as you attune to beings of this sound current, each
of whose signature and presence is the same as their uplifting melody.
When your voice resonates and merges with the Music of the Spheres,
the sound waves from your voice nests with the sound waves of The
Cosmic Divine Sound Current. Together they merge power and energy
and become a sword of truth. This merging gives your voice unlimited
power.
SOUND FOCUSES ENERGY INTO A LASER BEAM. THIS BEAM OF SOUND
PENETRATES ALL DIMENSIONS AND LEVELS. SOUND IS POWER. THE KEY IS TO
ENCODE SOUND WITH MEANING.
In the cosmic language, sp-rit is united with soul, masculine is
united with feminine, electricity is united with magnetism. This is
done by uniting self-presence with Universal Presence, self- will
with Divine Will, intellect with Omniscience, and emotions with
Cosmic Love. This results in miracles.
In using the cosmic language, singing musical notes creates a Sword
of Truth. "The Sword of Truth cuts deeper than the marrow of the
bone." Sound used with the cosmic language is the ultimate mastery
of power on the physical plane.
Remember how the music and songs of people like Elvis Presley,
followed by the Beatles, did more to change the consciousness of
the planet than Alexander the Great, Napoleon, and all of the ocial
reformers combined. This is the power of music and song.
Each child of G-d has a beautiful voice. Each voice is individual
and unique, just like DNA. The habit of comparison can be
self-defeating. When you sing, we ask you not to compare your voice
unfavorably. Even if you have never sung a note, with practice the
voice blossoms. Sing with persistence and with our help, and the
help of the Angels of Riqita, [14 degrees Libra]. The resulting
power and beauty of your voice will amaze you.
In a similar way we also inspire you to impregnate notes and sounds
of musical instruments with meaning, color, and feeling.
Different keyscales activate the sympathetic and parasympathetic
nervous systems. Use the appropriate keyscales to support the
masculine and feminine energy rythym. The oriental keyscale, called
the pentatonic scale, is parasympathetic and is made of sharp minor
notes, such as A sharp, F sharp, D sharp, etc.. The western keyscale,
called the didactic scale, is sympathetic and is made up of the major
notes, A,B,C,D,E,F, AND G.
Whenever you have divine ideas and thoughts to express with musical
sound, we are the angels who unite with you intuitively and
psychically. We connect you to, and unite you with, the Sound Current.
In this way, the waveforms of your voice or musical instrument nest
with the waveforms of the Sound Current and infinite Power is reached
for the manifestation of miracles.
Here are the virtues in our name with the musical notes, colors, and
feelings to sing with them:
The letter 'A' is the Virtue of Wisdom and Enlightenment.
Musical note G. Light blue, feeling of ease.
The letter 'R' is freedom and independence, the ability to follow
inner guidance and inspiration. Musical note C. Golden light, feeling
of warmth.
The letter 'I' is the virtue of Cause and Effect, the meaning of
Karma.
Musical note G. Light opal with a feeling of weight.
The letter 'S' is all-penetrating Power. Musical note G-sharp.
Purple red with a feeling of warmth.
The letter 'A' is all-wisdom and enlightenment. Musical note G.
The letter 'K' is the principle of Omnipotence. Musical note B.
Silvery blue with a feeling of warmth.
The letter 'A' is Wisdom and Enlightenment. Musical note G.
This is the time of prophecy when mankind sings the cosmic language
and brings heaven to earth.
This is the time when you powerfully manifest the ideas and Divine
Virtues of the cosmic language by music and song.
Ancient masters have proclaimed sound to be the most powerful force
on earth.
Sound unites the linear flow of energy of the left brain with the
intuitive and psychic energy of the right brain.
Let the music play!
Miracles!
*/A\*<;;_;;>*/A\*<;;_;;>*/A\*<;;_;;>*/A\*<;;_;;>/A\*<>>

JW Now I don't want any of you to tell me that you can't sing.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Who Built The Great Pyramid In Egypt? Feb. 18, 2001.

Here is some information on the building of the Great Pyramid
in Egypt. This material is probably channeled so beware.

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From: S
Subject: Lady Kadjina - Atlantis and Egypt
January 7, 2001
Wayne: Continuing on our discussion of life during the
Golden Age of Atlantis, given that there was not a government
as such, could you describe how the major public buildings
and transportation systems were developed and built?
LK - During the Golden Era, the buildings were constructed
by the dual effort of beings on this planet as well as extra-
terrestrials. Much of the material was brought in - or you
might say, imported - for in the time of Atlantis there was
import and export going on between planets.
The reason materials were brought in from other places is
that a certain magnetic gridwork was set up in the materials
and this could enhance the transmissions of information.
Some of this information transfer was done through mental
telepathy, some was done magnetically through gridworks,
and some was sent through a type of electrical current
between sending and receptor points. And information
could be sent and received both directions - from earth to
another planet and from another planet back to earth.
Now, as we have said before, upon Planet Earth were the
ancient ones - the evolved ones. There was a group that
was more etheric than physical. There was a group that
was physical and very highly evolved. And then there
was evolving humanity that was thoroughly physical, but
sp-ritually they had not entered upon the path of intensive
dualities; they were not as yet greatly challenged. And all
beings lived longer life spans than any humans of the last
several thousand years. The long life spans allow for much
accomplishment.
So, the many levels of beings upon this planet could work
together and design buildings. They would sit down and
discuss what it is they wanted to accomplish. In the case of
the Hall of Learning, it was designed to allow for free flow
of communication between worlds, but it was also for the
edification and enlightenment of the beings upon this planet.
However, as the beings evolved upon this planet, information
would then be sent back to other planets. Those beings
would then monitor the evolvement and they would gain
much knowledge and information. Keep in mind that
many of the life forms on Planet Earth were extensions and
projections of the consciousness of beings in other places.
And the beings in other places also had what you now call
parallel lives on many planets at the same time.
At the time of Atlantis, many of the parallels of these great
beings were interactive with one another and assisted in the
evolvement of each other. So when construction was to
begin, information as to how to proceed was gathered from
many quarters throughout the galaxy. Planet Earth was
like a great experiment. It was to be the great utopia in the
cosmos. It was to be the great communication hub. So the
buildings were designed with galactic communication in
mind.
As far as transportation went, again transportation was
multi-dimensional, from small 3rd-dimensional yet highly
technical hover planes to very etheric modalities. Again,
these were developed with galactic communication in mind.
There were great air terminals, if you would, for the coming
and going of UFOs, and this was commonplace. There were
also chambers developed for translocation of beings. You
have your expression, "Beam me up, Scotty!"
I will digress here for a moment. Your science fiction
has played a great service to humanity, for great truths are
presented in fictional form. There is a cosmic law that goes
something like this - and here I use layman's language: if
the human mind can think it up, then it is within the realm of
possibilities. The human mind is not capable of dreaming
up the totally impossible. The details perhaps are not always
clear, but the bigger picture always has a basis in reality.
Now, back to transportation. There was never a shortage
of energy on Atlantis. And they functioned upon the free
energy systems that are now coming back to you. At that
time of Atlantis, there was no such thing as the great
controlling cabals. There was no such thing as one group
lording themselves over another group. We had great air
transportation busses that could take groups to far distant
places on vacations. It was sometimes easier to do it this
way than to translocate an entire group of beings. But these
busses were highly technical. They were magnetic in nature,
traveling on electronic beams.
We also had something very much like your carport. These
were located on top of our buildings, something like parking
garages, except they were dome-shaped and the entrance
could open and close somewhat like the lens on your
observatories, using overlapping plates that would open and
close. And small hovercraft went straight down inside these
openings and were easily maneuvered to individual parking
spaces. The parking spaces contained a recharged magnetic
type of grid system. These magnets were connected to a
magnetic substation and the energy traveled very much like
types of radio beams or television beams, but magnetic in
nature. These substations were in turn connected to a great
magnet inside of a circular domed building in which there
were various types of crystals and gemstones and various
types of ores. And these operated on positive-negative
polarities so that there was a perpetual regeneration of
energy. In the years that I lived there, I never knew or
heard of any kind of malfunction.
We also had animals very much like horses. These animals
were unusual in that they could read the minds of their
masters. In fact it was not so much a situation of a master
and an animal; the humans and the animals were friends
and they took care of one another. These animals were
considered extensions of the family group. It was not
unusual to see them nuzzling the cheeks of the humans.
These animals could go anywhere a human could go. They
did not have diseases and they were very clean animals.
There were designated places where they could go and
d-fecate. They never did this on the home property.
Humans were allowed to choose their modes of transportation.
And at one time or another, in nearly everyone's lifespan, they
utilized all forms of transportation. We were fun loving at that
time and had time for recreation. And we also had something
very much like a unicycle. And these would be like toys and
they would be a way of keeping physically fit. And these
unicycles could go straight up mountainsides. They could also
flip upside down in a circular motion and land on the ground
again, somewhat like your skate-boarders do today.
Wayne: There has been much controversy over the way in
which the ancient pyramids of Egypt were constructed. How
were the stones cut, fitted so exactly, and put into place?
The great pyramid of Giza was not built by Cheops, but
was built by Thoth. When Atlantis in its final days met its
demise, Thoth had at his disposal a great etheric ship, into
which he gathered many technologies. And many of his
colleagues and many of their students went with him to
Egypt.
When they arrived, they were greeted by cannibals, who were
going to make a meal out of these strangers. He totally
immobilized all of these unevolved humans and when he
released them to become themselves again, he shown forth a
great light in his energy field. And the barbarians perceived
Thoth and his group to be g-ds. Thoth never made slaves of
these beings. He loved them, he taught them, and stayed
with them for several thousand years. And when he left
them, they were an evolved nation of peoples.
Thoth was a master of alchemy, magnetic grids, teleportation,
levitation, and mental telepathy. And these were only a few
of his skills. Many of his group were masters in their own
right. There were still spacecraft coming and going at that
time. However, things were much more difficult for
spacecraft because the land in Egypt at that time was primitive
and did not contain necessary landing ports or magnetic grid
systems. Thoth quickly reconstructed many things to make
transportation and communication viable again.
The great blocks for the construction of the pyramid were cut
out of mountains and teleported. They were first dematerialized
and molecularly translocated, and then ressembled in place.
This was a much simpler methodology than strictly levitating
them. There are many humans on the planet at this time that
have experienced what we call apportations. This is a sp-rit
being mentally constructing from pranic substances a particular
object, and then placing it in third-dimensional space. Some of
the blocks were constructed through apportation and some by
teleportation, molecularly. These latter stones were chosen for
particular energetic components.
The pyramids were constructed with energy grid-lines in
mind. Thoth believed that at some point in time, humanity
would redeem itself and resurrect itself. He also realized that
it would be many millennia of time before this would be
accomplished, but he set in place tools, technologies, and
coded information that would enable humanity to redeem
themselves and reestablish themselves at a future point in
time.
Thoth has said that he hid his great ship beneath the
Sphinx - which, incidentally, he also constructed. This is an
etheric ship that he can put back into working order at any
time that he chooses. Many generations of time later, some
of the Egyptian Pharaohs did build other pyramids, and it was
these that were built by slave labor as described in the books
of Gen-sis and other scriptures as well. And these pharaohs
did have certain skills in magic, but they were nothing in
comparison to the great Thoth.

Part 1.

JW: I checked in the book called "Star Wards" and in a message
transmitted on March 12, 1958, it stated that the Great Pyramid
was started approximately 45,600 years B.C. It was built by the
people from Aldebaran.


John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Feb 20, 2001, 2:00:49 AM2/20/01
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Subject: Francis Bacon, Shakespear and St. Germaine. Feb. 19, 2001.

In my present lifetime I have had the privilege of meeting quite
a few people who were famous in their previous lives. I once met a
person who was King James in a previous life and also he was Daniel
who was thrown in the lion's den. He at the time was living in
Berkeley, Calif. and he was Allan Neunan. Some people called him
The Cosmic Endtimes Massiah. He was an ex-university professor and
was sometimes getting thrown in jail for what he was saying.

The next person I was aware of was St. Germaine. He was the teacher
of my teacher, Merele Fagot. He said to my friend and Guru, Merele
that it would be probably be best that he not meet me because when a
person works with too many people at one time then his work is not
as effective. He also said that I would be able to gain all the
knowledge that I needed from the reading of books. St. Germaine's
name at that time was Michael, he was a barber in Oakland and was a
very close, personal friend to Sister Thedra. They had shared a
lifetime together in Palestine.

Here is some information about St. Germaine, the good Illu-inati,
and the good Freem-sonry.

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"The Great Instauration" (restoration after decay, lapse, or
dilapidation) was his formula to change "the whole wide world." First
conceived when Bacon was a boy of 12 or 13 and later crystallized in
1607 in his book by the same name, it did indeed launch the English
Renaissance with the help of Francis' tender, caring person. For over
the years, he gathered around himself a group of il-uminati who were
responsible among other things for almost all of the Elizabethan
literature--Ben Jonson, John Davies, George Herbert, John Selden,
Edmund Spenser, Sir Waiter Raleigh, Gabriel Harvey, Robert Greene, Sir
Philip Sidney, Christopher Marlowe, John Lyly, George Peele, and
Lancelot Andrewes.
Some of these were part of a "secret society" that Francis had
formed with his brother Anthony, when the two were law students at
Gray's Inn. This fledgling group, called "The Knights of the Helmet,"
had as its goal the advancement of learning by expanding the English
language and by creating a new literature written not in Latin but in
words which Englishmen could understand.
Francis also organized the translation of the King James version
of the Bi-le, determined that the common people should have the
benefit of reading Go-'s Word for themselves. Furthermore, as was
discovered in the 1890s in two separate ciphers--a word-cipher and a
bi-literal cipher embedded in the type of the original printings of
the shakespearean Folios--Francis Bacon was the author of the plays
attributed to the actor from the squalid village of Stratford-on-Avon.
He was the greatest literary genius of the Western world.
So, too, was Bacon behind many of the political ideas on which
Western civilization is based. Thomas Hobbes, John Locke and Jeremy
Bentham took Bacon as their ideological starting point. His
revolutionary principles are the engine that has driven our nation.
They are the very essence of the can-do spirit. "Men are not animals
--erect," Bacon averred, "but immortal -ods. The Creator has given us
souls equal to all the world, and yet satiable not even with a
world."
Francis Bacon also continued the task he had begun as Christopher
Columbus, promoting the colonization of the New World, for he knew
that it was there that his ideas could take deepest root and come to
fullest flower. He convinced James I to charter Newfoundland and was
an officer in the Virginia Company, which sponsored the settlement of
Jamestown, England's first permanent colony in America. And he founded
Freemasonry, dedicated to the freedom and enlightenment of mankind,
whose members played a large part in founding the new nation. Yet he
could have been an even greater boon to England and the whole world
had he been allowed to fulfill his destiny. The same ciphers which run
throughout the Shakespearean plays also run through Francis Bacon's
own works and those of many of his circle of friends.
Both ciphers contain his true life story, the musings of his soul, and
anything he wished to bequeath to future generations but could not
publish openly for fear of the queen.
Its secrets reveal that he should have been Francis I, King of
England. He was the son of Queen Elizabeth I and Robert Dudley, Lord
Leicester, born four months after a secret wedding ceremony. But she,
wishing to retain her "Virgin Queen" status and afraid that if she
acknowledged her marriage, she must give power to the ambitious
Leicester, also lest the people prefer her male heir to herself and
demand the queen's premature withdrawal from the throne, refused to
allow Francis, on pain of death, to assume his true identity.
The queen kept him dangling all his life, never giving him public
office, never proclaiming him her son, never allowing him to fulfill
his goals for England. No, she would not allow her son to bring in the
golden age of Britannia that was meant to be but never was. What cruel
fate--a queen mother unbending, contemptuous before her golden age
prince!
He was raised the foster son of Sir Nicholas and Lady Anne Bacon
and at age 15 heard the truth of his birth from his own mother's lips
in the same breath with which she barred him forever from the
succession. In one night his world was in a shambles. Like young
Hamlet, he pondered over and over the question, "To be or not to be!"
That was his question.
In the end, he determined not to rebel against his mother or
later, against her ill-fitted successor, James I. This despite the
great good he knew he could bring to England, despite his vision of
the land "as she might be, if wisely governed." He knew he had within
himself the power to be a monarch such as the land had never known, a
true father of the nation. He wrote of the "impulses of the go-like
patriarchal care for his own people" he would exercise--shades of the
golden age emperor of the Sahara.
Fortunately for the world, Francis determined to pursue his goal
universal enlightenment in the avenues of literature and science,
as adviser to the throne, supporter of colonization, and founder of
secret societies, thereby reestablishing the thread of contact with
the ancient mystery schools. The outlet of his wounded spirit was his
cipher writing in which he poured out his longings to a future age.
By the time of his death in 1626, persecuted and unrecognized for
his manifold talents, Francis Bacon had triumphed over circumstance
which would have destroyed lesser men, but which for him proved the
true making of an Ascended Master.

The Wonderman of Europe

May 1, 1684, was Saint Germain's Ascension Day. From heights
power well earned and beyond this world's, he still stands to turn
back all attempts to thwart his 'Great Instauration' here
below.
Desiring above all else to liberate -od's people, whether they
would or no, Saint Germain sought a dispensation from the Lords of
Karma to return to earth in a physical body. They granted it and he
appeared as the Comte de Saint Germain, a "miraculous" gentleman who
dazzled the courts of nineteenth century Europe as "The Wonderman."
His goal: to prevent the French Revolution, effect a smooth transition
from monarchy to a Republican form of gove-nment, establish a United
St-tes of Europe, and enshrine the fleur-de-lis as threefold flame of
G-d-identity in every heart.
Though admired throughout the courts of Europe for his
adeptship--removing the flaws in diamonds, disappearing into thin air,
writing the same verses of poetry simultaneously with both hands,
accomplished in many languages, fluent in any subject, recounting any
history as an eyewitness--he failed to secure the anticipated
response. Though willing to be entertained, the royalty were not
easily prodded to relinquish their power and move with the winds of
democratic change. They and their jealous ministers ignored his
counsel and the French Revolution ensued.
In a final attempt to unite Europe, Saint Germain backed Napoleon,
who misused the Master's power to his own demise. The opportunity to
set aside the retribution due an age thus passed, Saint Germain was
once again forced to withdraw from a karmic situation. In this
episode, though clearly visible as the mediator, Saint Germain with
his miracles and his prophecies fulfilled could still be
ignored! What would it take to turn people's hearts?

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Feb 20, 2001, 12:03:18 PM2/20/01
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Subject: Who Built "The Great Pyramid" In Egypt? Part 2 of 2.
Feb. 20, 2001.

This part mentions a space port in Mt. Shasta.

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Wayne: Why did Thoth choose Egypt after the demise of
Atlantis?
LK - Egypt at that time had pristine energies. The people were
barbaric, but they showed potential and were teachable and
could learn. Planet Earth has what some have called various
root races and Egypt possessed humans who were designated
to be the next root race. This is the reason so many of your
historians feel that Egypt is the oldest of civilizations. It was
the first great civilization founded by Thoth following the
demise of Atlantis.
Sumeria was an established civilization of people at that time.
Sumeria had much contact with Atlantis and participated in
import and export of many things, including products,
technologies, philosophies, and understanding of sp-ritual
laws. It was to Sumeria that Kay went with a group and in
the first life that she had there, she was able to live many
centuries of time as man who was very well known throughout
the land as a psychic surgeon.
But Thoth chose Egypt to build a completely new civilization
of peoples with new understandings. It was as if he was
starting from scratch. He did not have to contend with
pre-set ideologies and thought patterns.
The Martian group of Atlantis relocated in Babylon and
Phoenicia. A group broke away and went into the area that
has become known as the Tcradle (JW That probably should
read The Cradle.) of civilization' - the Mesopotamian Valley,
and this became the Hebrew Nation.
But there were many other nations of people at the same time.
Wayne: Was there something particularly energetic about
Egypt that caused Thoth to choose this location?
LK - Yes, her energies were very pristine and pure at that
time - they were not contaminated. There were many vortexes
of incoming and outgoing energies. Also, in that particular
area of Giza, there was open space. There was no hindrance of
great mountain ranges to block the establishment of grid energies.
The energy vortexes of that particular place were at a certain
megahertz that could be set up and maintained indefinitely
because of the pyramid's ability to connect with great grids,
not only upon Planet Earth, but also upon many planets in many
quadrants of the galaxy. Stability could be maintained
indefinitely.
Now, upon the Planet Earth at this time there are many
gover-ments that would try and destroy certain grid systems.
This is going on in the gulf area of the United St-tes at this
time, and in many other places too. The Giza is indestructible.
The frequencies are so high that nothing third dimensional can
touch it. At the time of its construction, the Giza contained the
greatest energetic system available on the planet. Nowhere
else on the planet was there any similar energetics.
The Giza pyramid could also energetically maintain certain
stability in the energetic systems of those parts of Atlantis
beneath the waters. She could also maintain stabilities of
energies in other places throughout the planet - those great
cities all throughout the planet that we have been speaking of.
Within the great pyramid are contained certain energetic
grids of reactivation. And this is in process at this time. The
process is to establish a megahertz range of 13.8 throughout
the entire planet so that all humans who wish to do so can
ascend or raise their vibrations, or increase their awareness
and understandings, extend their consciousness in the place
where they are. This process is what Scriptures call
"worshipping G-d in temples not made with hands."
In other words, it is no longer necessary, in order to ascend,
to travel to the great pyramid and enter into the sarcophagus.
You can do it now wherever you are. You do this by
connecting in consciousness to your personal gridwork
system of your chakras - both those internal as well as those
in your body double. And you then plug them into the
motherboard.
It is as simple as that. You now have the ability to do very
much as did the beings from the Sun. You set yourself
down and you project your consciousness to any place where
you know there is an energy grid system, or leylines, or
crystals.
Take for example, the great crystal of Australia at Uluru.
You project your consciousness like a slinky to Uluru and
then the essence of whom and what you are will follow.
This is a teleportation of consciousness. In this way, your
energies and the energies of Uluru are connected in a
gridwork fashion. You may do the same thing with Bimini,
and with the Aurora Borealis. You may even do the same
thing with the great Popo volcano. There is much
disturbance in that area, but energetically if you know your
heart chakra to be open, you can hold Popo in your arms
like a troubled child, and rock Popo, and talk to Popo, and
comfort Popo.
Wayne: Can you describe the lived-in underground cities
that exist on Earth and what types of beings inhabit them?
LK - The beings that live in the underground cities are
physical-etheric. They are advanced beings technologically
speaking, and they also function as custodians of much
information that they took with them. They are beings that
did not wish to leave the planet Earth at the demise of
Atlantis; they are beings that chose to go underground.
It is now time for them to emerge and resurface so that they
can continue their evolution in a world of dualities. They
have established buildings, communication, and transportation
systems very similar to what they knew when they lived upon
Atlantis. They never evolved to the status of Thoth or to the
status of the 32 Children of Light. They do not possess the
powers of the Councils of 9, 7, or 12, yet they are within
themselves very advanced. They have been free of accidents,
illnesses, and dissention, yet they do not have the
communication with the greater beings of the cosmos. But
they have maintained communication with those beings that
have set up UFO inner world terminals. And they receive
information as to what is happening through these beings.
Wayne: Where are these civilizations located?
LK - There is one great city right here in the Tucson area,
in your mountain ranges, beneath them. These beings have
connection with beings above ground, as well as those
beneath ground. They have connection with the Mother
Ship "New Jerusalem." This civilization has connections
to both the area of the Grand Canyon and the area of New
Mexico, and also down into Mexico itself.
There is a great civilization beneath the area of Bimini. They
assist in maintaining the energetics of the great Hall of
Learning in that area of Atlantis. Another great civilization
is beneath the Pacific Islands - Hawaii and that entire region.
Now understand that all of these places are interconnected.
They travel back and forth, they communicate, and in a certain
sense, it is just one great civilization with outposts in different
places. Australia-New Zealand area also has a group.
The inner world is based upon the idea of one world, one
people. Much will be learned from these beings on how to
establish one world and one people, utilizing the concepts of
diversification. All the beings within the Earth at this time
are either Lemurian or Atlantean; essentially they have the
same roots, the same ideologies. However, different groups
specialize in different endeavors. Some are involved in
science, others in technologies, and others are into the
philosophies and art and beauty.
Now we do not consider the UFO terminals to be of the cities
or the civilizations - they are different. Now, some of the
spaceports on the planet are located at Mt. Shasta, Titicaca,
the area of Popo, the area of the Gobi Desert, Africa,
Australia, the Himalayas, Mongolia has a great port, Hawaii,
Japan in the area of Kyoto - in the mountain ranges just to the
north. There are so many ports it is not possible to list all of
them. But the ones I have given you are major ports, like
unto an international airport.
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John F. Winston

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Subject: Art Bell And Jimmy The Dog. Feb. 21, 2001.

On monday night Art Bell was talking about a story that was sent
to him by a person inside of Area 51. He said he couldn't tell us
what the person's name was that sent him the information but that
he had put the story on his web site. I went to the site and here
is the story.

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Getting http://artbell.com/jimmy.html
Art Bell - Jimmy the Cloned Dog

This email was received by Art Bell on Feb 18th, 2001. Other than
minor punctuation corrections, the letter is reproduced here with
little modifications. We left out an indentifying introductory
paragraph and closing remarks. The actual story is intact and in
whole.

Hi Art:

I have started many times to write and tell you some of the wonders
of life people I work with have shared with me over the years, but
before I did you had left the air. I will not let it pass again. The
following is a brief outline of lunch in dreamland.

After simple greetings at the table we started to eat. During lunch
a dog came into the room and sat down by my chair. This dog and
myself have become good buddies over the past (blank) years of work
here at the base. I will call the dog Jimmy. The doctor to my right
had just finished cutting his meat, off of a steak bone when Jimmy
came to the table and the doctor greeted Jimmy and gave him the bone,
Jimmy went to his spot on the floor by my chair and started to eat.
The Doctor ask me if I knew Jimmy long, I replied, "Yes, and the
story too." He said "Oh, you know about Jimmy?" I said "Yes," I
told him the story that I had heard.
Jimmy was a clone of a dog that had been at this base during WWII
and was buried here. He said, "Yes, isn't it just amazing?" Two
lives in one.
Let me give you some background on Jimmy sir, Jimmy this month
on Valentines Day will be four years old, plus 50 years of time
passed to the dog from which Jimmy was cloned. (Also named Jimmy.)
The dog was the base commanders during WWII. It was loved by many
people and had free run of the base. It knew it's way around (so
some would say). When the dog died the dog was buried here on the
Base. It was a small secluded area which is reserved for people
and animals that die here. Due to health, war, military reasons are
buried here.
Some of the amazing things about Jimmy which we talked about were
things such as: Jimmy would not go into the building where he had
died 50 years ago. He has visited the grave of his so to speak
"father". Knows where to find water on a huge military reserve. Has
the intelligence of a 6th or 7th grader in school. Shows emotions and
feelings. Has only displayed aggression one time (in defense of
military personnel). Back to the story.
The doctor and I were talking about the memory that Jimmy displays.
I made the comment, "does he have both memories?" The doctor said
"yes being a clone he would". I asked what happens when Jimmys die?
Do we clone Jimmy from Jimmy or from Jimmy's "father". He said "If
we cloned Jimmy from Jimmy we would have a second generation clone
with the memory of two lifetimes. That is, people he has met,
buildings he has been in, experiments he has taken part in, and a
whole lot of knowledge of a very secret place.
He said "Jimmy would be capable of communicating in simple terms or
simple sentences as a second generation clone. Using letters or
numbers to form sentences such as encoding or encryption. I asked
"Would there be a limit on how many Jimmys we could have or how many
generations of Jimmys there could be?" He said "I really don't know
how far we can take this."
Let me give you an example of what we are working on. Remember we
all learned in the 60's that we were carbon based units. As we have
unwound the ribbon of life we see that everything is carbon based
life. This is showing Fiction into Fact. He said "let me give you an
example."
He took and poured out a teaspoon of salt onto the table top. He
placed the salt shaker approximately 2 foot away. He said this is
building "A" where we have placed carbon based material (the
building blocks of life) pointing to the pile of salt. This salt
shaker is my transporter receiver dome located on Mars. Some day we
would like to send the material from this pile of carbon to this
transporter. In doing so we would encode the genetic message to
create Jimmy. At the speed of light Jimmy would travel from the lab
building A, to this transporter. When assembled we would have a
complete Jimmy as you see him laying on the floor eating a bone.
My reply was "wow, things I read about as a kid". How long before
we will be able to do that?? His reply was the shocking part, "I can
move something today from building "A" to building "B". (These
buildings are about two thousand feet apart.) The problem is I
cannot move a live object.
Whatever is transported would be an inanimate object of the same
mass and shape of what was transported but it will not have life.
We are trying to determine the frequency variables of transporting
a small animal and keeping its inner soul or life as we call it
intact. I said "Wow". He said, "For a guy with three college degrees
is that the only word in your vocabulary today?"
I told him that you are talking about things which Buck Rogers
did on TV when I was a young boy. Star Trek taught me about as a
teenager and professors told me might happen in my lifetime. He
said "lunch is over, time to go to work Jimmy" and they walked out
the door.
Art there is a lot for you to think about in the above information.
The science, the mathematics, the power needed, and the people
willing 12 hours a day 5 to 7 days a week to make these things
happen. I can tell you Art, we have no grays here, I work with
yellow, black, brown, white and red side by side all of us here try
to make the world we live in a better place. I hope in the future
when you see me fly overhead you will look up and wave. I have been
watching you for five years. As I fly from Dreamland to the China
Lake, funny how you happened to pick the location of your house. I
have listened to you for a good eight years. I thought it was time
to give you a look at the inside information here at the Base.
Sincerely,
(Name withheld)

JW There may be some Grays at Area 51, lurking in the shadows.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: A Person's Experiences With Chemtrails. Feb. 21, 2001.

Here are some personal experiences that a person is having with
Chemtrails.

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From: James A Gilliland <soverei...@home.com>
Subject: [Self-Mastery Earth Institute] An Ariel Assault on the
Pacific Northwest
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I sat at my computer for hours wondering how I would write this
report. How can I tell people of something so unbelievable, so
sinister it was even hard to talk about, let alone send out over the
list? I know many people as in the past will read this report with
disbelief. Some will go into complete denial and others will get
angry. All I can say is please listen. Vent your anger where anger
is due.
There is a phenomena known as the chemtrail. It is not the ordinary
contrail that disperses in just a few seconds. These chemtrials
remain in the sky, spread out and eventually turn blue skies into a
gray, hazy toxic mess.
These criss cross, X or M patterns are laid out in the sky by
unmarked tankers. The mil-tary, inte-ligence agencies and most
elected representatives in the govern-ent, including the main stream
media, are fully aware of this phenomena, yet fear for their lives
those that are behind it.
Yet, if something is not done about the bio-ogicals and car-inogens
being dumped from above soon life won't have much meaning. The people
in Hood River, Portland, Trout Lake and the surrounding areas are all
experiencing epidemic proportions of flu-like symptoms that will not
go away. It can and has been fatal to those who have compromised
immune systems. The schools have seen as many as half the students
home sick with flu-like symptoms. The hospitals are reporting epidemic
levels and over crowding. Shortness of breath, coughing, upper
respiratory, intestinal disorders followed by pain in the groin area
are all symptoms that appear soon after the chemtrails. In the last
two weeks they have laid the heaviest chemtrail patterns over the
Pacific Northwest I have ever seen. Tankers side by side with as
many as four in a row have been criss crossing the sky in X patterns.
They make 90 degree turns in unison. Their chemtrails extend from one
horizon to the other. These are not normal contrails according to
every pilot we have interviewed. These are not changes in the upper
atmosphere because we have filmed normal commercial air traffic fly
below and above the chemtrail tankers leaving no trail.
I have watched elderly people and children become deadly ill and
die. I watched live stock meet their demise. Our chickens after a
heavy spray just sat there with a dazed look on their faces, some
fell over and could not use their right side. One was completely
paralyzed and never snapped out of it.
This can only be a nerve agent according to the vet. I am
experiencing a host of symptoms and my best friend Paul is now
coughing up blood. It is not a pretty picture. As I am typing, the
tankers are roaring overhead continuing to spread the deadly
concoctions, unhampered and assisted by the air farce. Many of the
environmental agencies and the C-C are all uninformed and in some
cases are with out a doubt fully aware of the spraying and are
stepping aside and allowing it.
Mycoplasm Fermenton, Mycoplasm Pneumonia, Psudomonus, Ethylene
Dibromide, aluminum oxide, carbon silicate and a host of other toxic
biologicals and chemical agents are found within the chemtrails. The
symptoms from exposure to these agents are, shortness of breath,
Asthma, coughing spells, upper respiratory and lung infections,
pneumonia, fibromyalgia and joint pain with the symptoms ending up in
the intestines and s-xual organs. Sound familiar? Doctors do not
know what to look for or treat.
There is both weather and biological warfare experiments being
played out in our skies above and on the ground. I know I did not
raise my hand and say poison me, my family and my livestock. By the
way, psudomonus is deadly to horses and there have been many horses,
goats etc. that have dropped dead due to government experiments. It
is important that this information get out to the do-tors, hospital
staff, veterinarians, local health officials and other agencies that
are still operating in the best interests of the people.
For more information go to the following links. There is a limit
to allowing and it seems those limits have far been surpased.
http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco/
http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm
http://www.cazekiel.org/harbinger/chemtrails/
--
James Gilliland
Self-Mastery Earth Institute
Trout Lake, Washington
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Feb 21, 2001, 8:10:42 PM2/21/01
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Subject: Lives Of St. Germaine. Feb. 21, 2001.

People, including myself, seem to be captivated by the lives of
St. Germaine. Now back to the information at hand.

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Enter Merlin--scientist, philosopher, monk, alchemist and prophet--to
forward his mission of laying the scientific moorings for the age of
Aquarius his soul should one day sponsor.
The atonement of this lifetime was to be the voice crying in the
intellectual and scientific wilderness that was medieval Britain. In
an era in which either theology or logic or both dictated the
parameters of science, he promoted the experimental method, declared
his belief that the world was round, and castigated the scholars and
scientists of his day for their narrow-mindedness. Thus he is viewed
as the forerunner of modern science.
But he was also a prophet of modern technology. Although it is
unlikely he did experiments to determine the feasibility of the
following inventions, he predicted the hot-air balloon, a flying
machine, spectacles, the telescope, microscope, elevator, and
mechanically propelled ships and carriages, and wrote of them as if he
had actually seen them! Bacon was also the first Westerner to write
down the exact directions for making gunpowder, but kept the formula a
secret lest it be used to harm anyone. No wonder people thought he was
a magician!
However, just as Saint Germain tells us today in his Studies in
Alchemy that "miracles" are wrought by the precise application of
universal laws, so Roger Bacon meant his prophecies to demonstrate
that flying machines and magical apparatus were products of the
employment of natural law which men would figure out in time.
From whence did Bacon believe he derived his amazing awareness!
"True knowledge stems not from the authority of others, nor from a
blind allegiance to antiquated dogmas," he said. Two of his
biographers write that he believed knowledge "is a highly personal
experience--a light that is communicated only to the innermost privacy
of the individual through the impartial channels of all knowledge and
of all thought."
And so Bacon, who had been a lecturer at Oxford and the University
of Paris, determined to separate himself and his thoughts from the
posing and postulating residents of academe. He would seek and find
his science in his re-igion. Entering the Franciscan Order of Friars
Minor, he said, "I will conduct my experiments on the magnetic forces
of the lodestone at the selfsame shrine where my fellow-scientist, St.
Francis, performed his experiments on the magnetic forces of love."
But the friar's scientific and philosophical world view, his bold
attacks on the theologians of his day, and his study of alchemy,
astrology and magic led to charges of "heresies and novelties," for
which he was imprisoned in 1278 by his fellow Franciscans! They kept
him in solitary confinement for fourteen years, releasing him only
shortly before his death. Although the clock of this life was run out,
his body broken, he knew that his efforts would not be without impact
on the future.
The following prophecy which he gave his students shows the grand
and revolutionary ideals of the indomitable spirit of this living
flame of freedom--the immortal spokesman for our scientific, relig-ous
and political liberties:
I believe that humanity shall accept as an axiom for its conduct
the principle for which I have laid down my life--the right to
investigate. It is the credo of free men--this opportunity to try,
this privilege to err, this courage to experiment anew. We
scientists of the human spirit shall experiment, experiment, ever
experiment. Through centuries of trial and error, through agony
of research... let us experiment with laws and customs, with money
systems and gove-nments, until we chart the one true course-until
we find the majesty of our proper orbit as the planets above have
found theirs.... And then at last we shall move all together in
the harmony of our spheres under the great impulse of a single
creation--one unity, one system, one design.

Christopher Columbus

To establish this freedom upon earth, Saint Germain's lifestream
took another turn--as Christopher Columbus (1451-1506). But over two
centuries before Columbus sailed, Roger Bacon had set the stage for
the voyage of the three ships and the discovery of the New World when
he stated in his "Opus Majus" that "the sea between the end of Spain
on the west and the beginning of India on the east is navigable in a
very few days if the wind is favorable."
Although the statement was incorrect in that the land to the west
of Spain was not India, it was instrumental in Columbus' discovery.
Cardinai Pierre d'Ailly copied it in his Image Mundi without noting
Bacon's authorship. Columbus read his work and quoted the passage in
a 1498 letter to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella, saying that his
1492 voyage had been inspired in part by this visionary statement.
Columbus believed that G-d had made him to be "the messenger of the
new heaven and the new earth of which He spake in the Apocalypse of
St. John, after having spoken of it by the mouth of Isaiah." His
vision went back as far as ancient Israel, perhaps even further. For
in discovering the New World, Columbus believed that he was the
instrument whereby Go- would, as Isaiah recorded around 732 B.C.,
"recover the remnant of his people....and shall assemble the outcasts
of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four
corners of the earth."
Twenty-two centuries passed before anything visible happened that
seemed to be the fulfillment of this prophecy. But late in the
fifteenth century, Christopher Columbus was quietly preparing to set
the stage for the fulfillment of this prophecy, certain that he had
been divinely selected for his mission. He studied the bib-ical
prophets, writing passages relating to his mission in a book of his
own making entitled Las Proficias or The Prophecies -in its complete
form, The Book of Prophecies concerning the Discovery of the Indies
and the Recovery of Jerusalem. Although the point is seldom stressed,
it is a fact so rooted in history that even the Encyclopedia
Britannica says unequivocally that, "Columbus discovered America by
prophecy rather than by astronomy."
"In the carrying out of this enterprise of the Indies," he wrote
to King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella in 1502, "neither reason nor
mathematics nor maps were any use to me: fully accomplished were the
words of Isaiah." He was referring to Is-iah 11:10-12.
Thus we see that lifetime by lifetime, Saint Germain, whether his
outer mind was continuously cognizant of it we know not, was
re-creating that golden pathway to the Sun--a destiny come full circle
to worship the -od Presence and reestablish a lost golden age.

Francis Bacon

As Francis Bacon (1561-1626), the greatest mind the West has ever
produced, his manifold achievements in every field catapulted the
world into a stage set for the children of Aquarius. In this life he
was free to carry to its conclusion the work he had begun as Roger
Bacon.
Scholars have noted the similarities between the thoughts of the
two philosophers and even between Roger's Opus Majus and Francis'
De Augmentis and Novum Organum. This is made even more astounding by
the fact that Roger's Opus was never published in his lifetime, fell
into oblivion, and not until 113 years after Francis' Novum Organum
and 110 years after his De Augmentis did it appear in print!
The unsurpassed wit of this immortal soul, this philosopher/king,
this priest/scientist, might easily have kept its humor with the
stubborn motto drawn from tyrants, tortures and tragedy: if they beat
you in one life, come back and beat them in the next!
Francis Bacon is known as the father of inductive reasoning and
the scientific method which, more than any other contributions, are
responsible for the age of technology in which we now live. He
foreknew that only applied science could free the masses from human
misery and the drudgery of sheer survival in order that they might
seek a higher spirituality they once knew. Thus, science and
technology were essential to Saint Germain's plan for the liberation
of his Lightbearers and through them all mankind.
His next step was to be nothing less bold than universal
enlightenment!

JW Who knows maybe St. Germaine was the earthly father of Je--s called
Joseph.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: More Past Lives Of St. Germain. Feb. 23, 2001.

The second time that I had the privilege of meeting the lady
who had an angel on her TV on "Harmonic Convergence Day" in Mt.
Shasta City, she told me the following statement: "The best story
that I've ever heard about St. Germain is that one day a person saw
St. Germain and Je--s walking down St. Germain Blvd. together
near the I AM Center in Mt. Shasta City.
This lady later left the town of Mt. Shasta City and went to
another town.
I later talked with a lady who operated a Motel on Mt. Shasta
Blvd. who said that she was proud of the fact that she and her
friends had made it so hard of the lady who had the the angel on
the T.V. that they ran the lady out of town.

....

I found this information lurking on my C-drive. It is from the
following web site:

http://www.tsl.org/masters/sg.html

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Samuel the Prophet

Returning to the scene of the karma of his people as Samuel, prophet
of the LORD and judge of the twelve tribes of Israel (c. 1050 B.C.),
Saint Germain was the messenger of G-d's liberation of the seed of
Abraham from bondage to the corrupt priests, and from the Philistines
by whom they had been defeated. Bearing in his heart the special sign
of the blue rose of Sirius, Samuel delivered to the recalcitrant
Israelites a prophecy parallel to his twentieth-century discourses
both inextricably link with Go-'s covenants concerning karma, free
will and grace:
"If ye do return unto the LORD with all your hearts, then put away
the strange -ods and Ashtaroth from among you, and prepare your hearts
unto the LORD and serve him only: and he will deliver you out of the
hand of the Philistines." Later, when King Saul disobeyed G-d, Samuel
freed the people from his tyranny by anointing David king.
True to the thread of prophecy that runs throughout his lifetimes,
Saint Germain was Saint Joseph of the lineage of King David, son of
Jesse, chosen vessel of the Holy Ghost, father of Je--s in fulfillment
of the word of the LORD to Isaiah--"There shall come forth a rod out
of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots...."
We see, then, in each of Saint Germain's embodiments that there is
present the quality of alchemy--a conveyance of Go-ly power. So
ordained the instrument of the LORD, Samuel transferred His sacred
fire in the anointing of David and just as scientifically withdrew it
from King Saul when the LORD rejected him from being king over Israel.
This unmistakable sign of the Seventh Ray adept, often in humble garb,
was also present as the Holy Spirit's power of the conversion of souls
and the control of natural forces in his life as the third-century
Saint Alban, first martyr of the British Isles.

Alban, Roman Soldier

A Roman soldier, Alban hid a fugitive priest, was converted by
him, then sentenced to death for disguising himself as the priest and
allowing him to escape. A great multitude gathered to witness his
execution--too many to pass over the narrow bridge that must be
crossed. Alban prayed and the river parted--whereupon his executioner,
being converted, begged to die in Alban's place. His request was
denied and he was beheaded that day alongside the saint.

Master Teacher of the Neoplatonists

But Saint Germain was not always to be counted in the ranks of the
Ch-rch. He fought tyranny wherever he found it, including in false
Chr-stian doctrine. As the Master Teacher behind the Neoplatonists,
Saint Germain was the inner inspiration of the Greek philosopher
Proclus (c. A. D. 410-485).
He revealed his pupil's previous life as a Pythagorean philosopher,
also showing Proclus the sham of Constantine's C-ristianity and the
worth of the path of individualism (leading to the individualization
of the Go- flame) which Chr-stians called "paganism."
As the highly honored head of Plato's Academy at Athens, Proclus
based his philosophy upon the principle that there is only one true
reality--the "One," which is Go-, or the -odhead, the final goal of
all life's efforts. The philosopher said, "Beyond all bodies is the
essence of soul, and beyond all souls the intellectual nature, and
beyond all intellectual existences the One." Throughout his
incarnations Saint Germain demonstrated tremendous breadth of
knowledge in the Mind of -o-; not surprising was the range of his
pupil's awareness. His writings extended to almost every department of
learning.
Proclus acknowledged that his enlightenment and philosophy came
from above--indeed he believed himself to be one through whom divine
revelation reached mankind. "He did not appear to be without divine
inspiration, his disciple Marinus wrote, "for he produced from his
wise mouth words similar to the most thick-falling snow; so that his
eyes emitted a bright radiance, and the rest of his countenance
participated of divine illumination."
Thus Saint Germain, white-robed, jeweled slippers and belt emitting
star-fire from far-off worlds, was the mystery Master smiling just
beyond the veil--mirroring the imagings of his mind in the soul of the
last of the great Neoplatonic philosophers.
Saint Germain was Merlin. The unforgettable, somehow irretrievable
figure who haunts the mists of England, about to step forth at any
moment to offer us a goblet of sparkling elixir. He the 'old man' who
knows the secrets of youth and alchemy, who charted the stars at
Stonehenge, and moved a stone or two, so they say, by his magical
powers--who would astonish no one if he suddenly appeared on a
Broadway stage or in the forests of the Yellowstone or at one's side
on any highway anywhere.

For Saint Germain is Merlin.

Enter Merlin January 1. 1987, with his final prophecy to heroes,
knights, ladies, crazies, and villains of the Aquarian Camelot.
Merlin, dear Merlin, has never left us--his spirit charms the
ages, makes us feel as rare and unique as his diamond and amethyst
adornments. Merlin is the irreplaceable Presence, a humming vortex
about whose science and legends and fatal romance Western civilization
has entwined itself.
It was the fifth century. Midst the chaos left by the slow death
of the Roman Empire, a king arose to unite a land splintered by
warring chieftains and riven by Saxon invaders. At his side was the
old man himself--half Druid priest, half Chri-tian saint-seer,
magician, counselor, friend, who led the king through twelve battles
to unite a kingdom and establish a window of peace.
At some point, the spirit of Merlin went through a catharsis. The
scene was one of fierce battle, the legend says. As he witnessed the
carnage, a madness came upon him--of seeing all at once past/present
and future--so peculiar to the lineage of the prophets. He fled to the
forest to live as a wild man, and one day as he sat under a tree, he
began to utter prophecies concerning the future of Wales.
"I was taken out of my true self," he said. "I was as a sp-rit and
knew the history of people long past and could foretell the future. I
knew then the secrets of nature, bird flight, star wanderings and the
way fish glide." Both his prophetic utterances and his "magical"
powers served one end: the making of a united kingdom of the tribes of
the old Britons. His pervasiveness is recalled in an early Celtic name
for Britain, "Clas Myrddin," which means "Merlin's Enclosure."
By advising and assisting Arthur in establishing his kingship,
Merlin sought to make of Britain a fortress against ignorance and
superstition where Christ achievement could flower and devotion to the
One could prosper in the quest for the Holy Grail. His efforts on this
soil were to bear fruit in the nineteenth century as the British Isles
became the place where individual initiative and industry could thrive
as never before in twelve thousand years.
But even as Camelot, the rose of England, budded and bloomed,
nightshade was twining about its roots. Witchcraft, intrigue and
treachery destroyed Camelot, not the love of Launcelot and Guinevere
as Tom Malory's misogynistic depiction suggests. Alas, the myth he
sowed has obscured the real culprits these long centuries.
'Twas the king's ba-tard son Modred by his half sister Margawse
who with Morgana le Fay and a circle of like sorceresses and black
knights, set out to steal the crown, imprison the queen, and destroy
for a time the bonds of a Love that such as these (of the left-handed
path) had never known nor could --a Reality all of their willing,
warring and enchantments could not touch.
Thus it was with a heavy heart and the spirit of a prophet who has
seen visions of tragedy and desolation, fleeting joys and the piercing
anguish of karmic retribution endlessly outplayed, that Merlin entered
the scene of his own denouement, to be tied up in spells of his own
telling by silly, cunning Vivien--and sleep. Aye, to err is human but
to pine for the twin flame that is not there is the lot of many an
errant knight or king or lonely prophet who perhaps should have
disappeared into the mists rather than suffer sad ignominy for his
people.

JW Of course some people who don't believe that the angel was
actually seen on TV will tell you that a TV technicians stuck his
head inside the door of her home and said that he could make the
sceen of the TV roll just her's was doing. That is true but between
the times it was rolling you could see a picture of a robed perons.
To me it looked like I would think Je--s would look. To the person
by me it looked like Krishna. I later checked with Sister Thredra
and she said it to her it looked like Sananda.
This was all done with no antenna attached to the set.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Something That Will Manifest Gold. Feb. 24, 2001.

Here is something that I may check out for myself. It would be
good if I could accomplish this.

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From: D
Subject: Solar
meditation Manifests Gold
From: U
Dear D
I met you at the Open Secret bookstore in San Rafael and promised you
the meditation which I talked to you about which manifested gold
particles on the porch of my house on several occasions when I shared
the meditation with others. I am actually going to attend your
Intensive near Ashville in March and I am looking forward to it. We
can discuss further then! Since the appearance of gold more has
manifested, I will show you in person.
I have created several versions of this meditation, the following
being the basic one. I am aware of the solar event this weekend and
I will be with you in spirit.
Solar blessings to you, the group, the earth and all mankind!
U

Activating the divine fire and pillar of sacred flames
a guided meditation by U

Sit in a comfortable position with your eyes closed and take a few
deep breaths.
Visualize in the center of your forehead a bright golden god flame
letter, a symbol for the spark of G-d, as if written on your forehead.
Breathe into the -od-flame, energizing it with prana from the air.
On your next inhale move the flame into the pineal gland at the
center of your brain. Visualize your pineal gland light up in pale
gold and with your next exhale move the flame down the central body
current into the center of the earth.
Breathe into the flame again energizing it with prana from the air
until a ring of flames forms around the center flame like a horizontal
disk with a flaming outer circle. As you continue to breathe into
the center flame, the outer ring expands until it grows out into the
atmosphere around the earth.
Visualize the horizontal disk like a pulsing soft web of gold light
permeating the horizontal plane of the earth and then bring your focus
back to the center flame.
With your next inhale bring the flame up from the center of the earth
through your grounding cord to a position 6 inches below your feet,
the position of the 12th chakra.
Again breathe into the flame until it is 6 inches thick. With your
next inhale move the flame through the central body current into the
heart chakra. As you breathe into the flame visualize the flame
becoming the three fold heart flame with different hues of pink,
violet and blue or whatever color you are being shown. Feel the fire
from the heart flames permeating all body cells and opening the
energy channels from the heart to your hands and out your palm.
Place your attention back to the golden center flame in the heart
and with your next inhale move the flame up beyond the crown chakra,
through the chakras above the head: the 10th chakra 6" above the head,
the 11th chakra 18" above the head and the 14th chakra 36" above
the head. Continue moving the flame up through the portal of the
sun then through the Great Central Sun and out of the time matrix
into the limitless light of Go- as non-dual awareness. Bathe in
this light and then return the flame through the Great Central Sun,
the sun, then through the central body current to a position 12"
beneath your feet. Feel how the flame has increased in intensity
by having united with the limitless light from beyond the time matrix.
Breathe into this flame and visualize a ring of flames radiating
outward into a circle until it is 6 feet in diameter forming a
platform of flames. Breathe into the platform and feel the connection
with the huge horizontal disk in the center of the earth. As the
platform cannot hold more intensity, the disk suddenly pops and
expands into an oscillating pillar of golden flames, extending about
18" beyond your body, reaching to the 14th chakra 36" above the head
or even higher, as high as you are being shown. This may be to the
Great Central Sun and beyond. Feel all the cells in your body
absorbing the gold light of the flames, all the way into the DNA of
the cells.
This pillar is a protective shield in your daily life and it's
effectiveness is the raising of your vibration by the use of this
meditation. You may stop the meditation here or continue:
Addition no.1: Continue with this meditation if you are guided to
do so: Now place your attention at about 67 feet above your head
and say silently the following first command: Mother, Father G-d,
I command the clearing of my 12 tree-of-life grid, transmuting
all distortions from my original blueprint and dissolving
polarities into the Oneness of consciousness as love.
Watch your tree-of-life grid being cleared and silently say: Thank
you, it is done, it is done, it is done.
Go up again to 67 feet above your head and say the second command:
Mother Father -od, I command the clearing of the planetary
tree-of-life grid through my grid as much as it is to the highest
good of all at this time. Watch the planetary grid being cleared.
Then say: Thank you, it is done, it is done, it is done.
Go up a third time to 67 feet and say silently: Mother Father -o-,
I command my tree-of-life grid to be infused by the cosmic grid
from the unmanifest realms, restoring my grids and DNA into the
perfected image of the Admon Kadmon. Watch your grid changing again.
You will see whatever your higher Self shows you at the time. Then
say again: Thank you it is done, it is done, it is done.
Addition no.2: Continue as guided:
Visualize yourself standing behind yourself. Look at your back
in the heart area and ask your Higher Self to show you where the
opening to the Sacred Heart is. The Sacred Heart is usually a
little lower than the heart chakra although the location varies
with different people. See an opening at your spine and enter
there. You will find yourself in a silent place, much like a sacred
temple. This is the place of transcending all dimensions. Feel the
eternal peace within you and feel the connection to the place of
limitless light outside the time matrix. This place is in reality
within you. Stay in this space for as long as you wish and then
come out of meditation.
Ursula's website is www.sacredtransformation.com

JW I feel I'm going to have to study that site in more detail to
actually know how to manifest the gold.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Good News From Spain. Feb. 26, 2001.

Here is some news from an Internet friend of mine who has moved
to Spain. Part of the material is channels, so be careful.

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From: c
Subject: Cmdr D - Checking in from Espagne....
Hello everyone.... And after receiving the following --
C, I haven't heard any more about how things are going in Spain. It's
time for an update for us fans! --and other emails like it, I guess
it must be time for a report.....
I have settled in here in Spain, and am quite content here. Life
is slower and simpler, but no less busy, in fact I'm busier than I
was in the states. I'm learning more and more Spanish every day,
and am communicating and understanding pretty well, without any formal
training or lessons.
The winter here is not that cold, just brisk, which I like. My
kitty-kat, Miss Muffett just recently arrived. Quite a journey for
her, over the seas, par avion. It's great to have her back, and have
some furry cuddles with her again. And I just want everyone to know,
that my Miss Muffett purrs not just on one note, but in filtered
overtones.

DISCOVERY CHANNEL APPEARANCE

In the first week of March, (specifically the 3rd of March, a
significant day as you will read later in this report,) some
independant producers working with the Discovery Channel are coming
to Spain to interview me and film me performing on the Space Bass, a
Sonic Steel Instrument of original design. It will be filmed at
Antoni Gaudi's "Parc Guell". Gaudi is a famous architect here in
Spain, and his structures are incredible. The footage will be
included in a Discovery Channel feature entitled "The Power of
Music," Dates on when the program will be aired will be posted on
the events/news page . http://www.constancedemby.com/news.html

NEW ALBUMS

The recording studio is set up, and I'm working on a compilation
album that will have some new unpublished material. When that's done,
I finish the filmscore, do the mix, and then that one will be
released. After that, I begin production on the album I've been
planning to do for a long time, and it's been a long time waiting to
get all the conditions right. Here in Spain it seems easier to hole
up and work without all kinds of distractions. Just to keep ones
affairs in order simply being a human on earth during this amazing
time we're in, combined with all the multitudinous details of a music
career, and the needs of an electronic recording studio in a foreign
country, to finally get to the point where you can actually focus in
and compose undisturbed, is a trip.

NEW LABEL

I am pleased to announce I am now with a new record label, (names &
details later) who will start by putting out a new remastered version
of FACES OF THE CHRIST in a few months, to be followed by the new
releases.

PERFORMANCES

The next concert is the "Mystic Music Festival" produced by Rosa
Zaragrosa, on April 27 in Barcelona. Details will be posted on the
events/news page http://www.constancedemby.com/news.html

ENERGIES

If you've had a tough time lately, it's because we've just
experienced a very "raw" and difficult Mercury Retrograde period. On
Sunday the 25th, it goes direct. Meanwhile, there's a report of
miraculous flowers sprouting on a golden statue of Kuan Yin, and
another report of a "new energy" coming on March 3, when it will
apparently be a good time to program your intentions, release residual
energies, and -- a good time to turn off computers because of
"spiking" energy. As a friend of mine mentioned after reading it,
"these tips could prove to be most useful. And no matter what -- what
excellent practice in setting intentions.....that notion of 'creating
our own gridwork,' setting down where we want the Energy to go or what
we want it to create, manifest."

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MIRACULOUS FLOWERS SPROUT ON A GOLD STATUE IN SOUTH KOREA

"Flowers that bloom only once every 3,000 years are budding on the
head of a sacred Buddhist statue."
Buddhist priests in South Korea "say the legendary flowers
blossoming on the forehead of Kuan Yin the Compassionate" only appear
"when the 'Sage King of the Future' (also known as Maitreya, the
future Buddha--J.T.) comes into the world," which one Buddhist leader
called, "a delight that gives joy beyond description."
"The Miracle of the Flowers" as it's now being called, happened in
the Chonggyesa Temple, in a suburb of Seoul, the capital of South
Korea. Tens of thousands of pilgrims are flocking to see the white
blossoms on the tip of the eyebrow of the shining, gilded statue of
Kuan Yin. (JW I like Kuan Yin.) "'Kuan Yin is a gentle Buddhist
deity who refused to enter paradise (Nirvana--J.T.) because she
heard the cries of suffering humanity," says rel-gious expert Dr.
Kenneth Ireland. "She is acknowledged to save the soul of everyone
on Earth, turning her back on none.'"
Many are now saying that the monastery of Chonggye-sa could become
the Buddhist Lourdes because many cures are being performed there.
According to the monks, "21 threadlike stems are growing from the
statue of Kuan Yin, each with a tiny white flower no bigger than
the tip of a ballpoint pen."
"This is the first time in the 1,000-year history of the monastery
that the flowers have blossomed.
Buddhists say sighting the flowers is like witnessing the birth
of Buddha,'" he added.
Experts say it's unthinkable that the 500-year-old statue of
Kuan Yin, gilded every three years over the (original) woodwork,
could produce growing flowers without divine intervention.
"'Botanically, the flower is related to the ficus," says botanist
William Grant, "There is just no way it could take root in the
statue."
Dr. Ireland says the flowers are regarded as divine in India, Japan
and China and are believed to bloom "only when a momentous event is
about to happen."
Buddhist monks are currently keeping a prayer vigil at the statue,
waiting for the event that will change mankind's future forever.

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John F. Winston

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Feb 26, 2001, 8:36:07 PM2/26/01
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Part 2 of 2.

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(Editors note: Though you may or may not agree with the
following channeled material, if you have comments or questions
about the material, please contact the source of the report
<yellow...@gte.net> - and not me. Thnx.)
New Energy coming in March 3rd
New Energy coming in March 3rd (3-3-3)
From: "Kathryn L. Nesbitt" <yellow...@gte.net>
Tue, 20 Feb 2001
Dear All,
We are fast approaching an important time in our evolution.
March 3, 2001 (3-3-3), there will be an influx of Energy,
coming in waves, every 15 minutes. Spi-it has been busy,
laying grid lines to focus the Energy gently to all of the
Earth. Mikiah said that we might be able to see green
'lightning' as the Energy comes into the gridwork. Lights
may blink on and off, the hair may stand up on your animals,
and it may affect the tides.
It is a good time to use the Energy to release residual
energies still within our bodies, physical and etheric. The
Earth will be utilizing the Energy to release all of hers. The
Energy will be coming in in waves, on the cardinal points, 12,
3, 6 and 9 on the clock (every 15 minutes). When the hours
are also on the cardinal points, it would be a good time to
turn off the computers! That is, at 6 am, 9 am, noon, 3 pm, 6
pm, 9 pm. For those of you that are nightowls, you get the
drift! Mikiah said the energy would spike at those times,
and computers do not like spiking energy.
To release the residuals, that energy that has been left when
we have worked on our issues and still remains in our bodies
and energy field, on the outbreath set your intent to release
them. On the inbreath re-fill yourself with rainbow energy,
clear energy, white light, whatever you feel drawn to do.
Just fill the space that the residuals were taking up, or you
will have a vacuum that will allow your fears, doubts,
whatever the residuals are, to grow again! That is why when
we have let things go, they keep coming back. We didn't get
it all at one time, that left a vacuum and they had fertile soil
to grow even bigger! Just set your intent to breath the Love
Energy for that is what it is, Pure Unconditional Love from
All of Creation, into yourself, and intend that the remaining
'stuff' go out with the outbreath.
Mikiah said that we will be enveloped by the Energy, and as
we use it, it will grow and become a part of us and our ability
to use it will increase as we practice using it. Be assured it
cannot be misused. Sp-rit learned that lesson in Atlantis! By
the time the Spring Equinox comes Spi-it will have had time
to observe how we have responded to the Energy, and at the
beginning of the eclipse (not sure when it happens and from
the way she stated it, it will be a Solar eclipse) we will be
un-plugged for 5 seconds, so that they can fine-tune us (you
might forget what it was you were doing before you were
unplugged, so it might not be a good time to be driving).
Then, we will be like a magnifying glass, to focus the
Energy. She suggested that we create our own gridwork, set
down where we want the Energy to go in our lives, what is it
we want to create? Manifest? See happen for the Earth and
her People? Put that down in you mind or on paper so that
there is a 'map', 'wiring', 'grid' in place for the Energy to
flow to. That will allow your gridwork to 'light up' when the
Energy comes in, otherwise Mikiah said it would be as if we
had miner's helmets on and the light would be a pinpoint in
the darkness. The Energy will be pinpointed and magnified
through us like a laser beam, so if the Energy is flowing
through your gridwork, then you can focus the light onto
what it is you want to send a lot of energy to at a certain time.
We are asked to keep our Causal Center open at all times,
she said that this was not a center we were used to using
on a regular basis, but because we are becoming ONE and
connected to All that Is, it is important it remain open so that
information can flow to us.
She said that we may be experiencing 'problems' between
the third eye and where our heart lies due to the opening of
the Causal and the connecting to the upper Chakras. Our
Altered Ego, the Mind will not want to give up control...she
suggested that we talk to our Mind about what is happening.
It is time for us to recognize the Will of the Soul and bring
it into realization.
The purpose of the opening of the Causaland the connections is
to allow a constant flow between us and Spir-t.
On the Equinox, it is a time for us to come into Harmony and
Balance, the Energy will allow for the alignment of Body,
Mind and Soul so we can become ONE with ALL THAT IS.
She cautioned us not to say, "I am coming into alignment with
the Earth, the animals, all the people." for that is separation.
All is part of us and we are part of the Whole, there is no
separation, we are ONE. So allow yourself to become aligned
with All of Creation.
Whatever we focus upon, so long as it is for the good of
all concerned, it will be added unto by All of Creation.
Remember, what you focus upon, you become, so focus on
what you truly are, perfection. You are abundance, you are
health, you are knowingness, you are all things. If there
is something you need, call it forth from the Energy. All
of Creation is waiting for you to ask, and it will be given.
These are truly awesome times in which we are living. Be
open to what G-d is asking you to do, we are his tools for
the Re-Creation of Earth.
Remember, Je--s said, "What I do, you can do and more."
Mother Mary has told us to let go of our limited beliefs, the
best that we can imagine cannot begin to match what Go-
has in store for us!
This past weekend, Mother Mary said "ask, and it will be
given unto you. "Practice, the more we use it, the better it
gets. Don't be faint of heart, and sit back and wait, for that
is all that will happen, you will sit there and wait. And
things are going to be speeded up, so fasten your seatbelts,
and get ready for the ride of your life! We, All of Creation,
has waited a long time for this to happen, go for it! Please
share this with others so they too, will know.
Channeled by Rev. Pam Wade at Life's Pathway,
a small spiritual church in Southern Indiana.
Mikiah is Michiaventa Melc-izidech,
the Melch-zidech mentioned in the
Old Testament as the teacher of Abraham.


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Warmest regards,
C
Sound Currents/Current Sounds
http://www.constancedemby.com
Symphonic Sacred SpaceMusic
:*'``'*:-., __>^<__888 ,.-: *.`'*:-.,88 . .

Part 2 of 2.

JW Whatever happens, I hope it is good.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Feb 27, 2001, 7:06:07 PM2/27/01
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Subject: I Hope This Is Not True. Feb. 26, 2001.

Here is something that might indicate that we are shooting down
UFOs. Now we wouldn't do something like that, would we?

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From: M
Subject: IUFO: Are Ame-icans shooting down UFOs with particle beam
weapons?
This is from Jeff Bloom's site The UFO Disclosure Movement. I'd
like to add some more at the end by Al Bielek on this.
http://www.ufodisclosure.net/
October 13, 2000

Title WAS A UFO SHOT DOWN IN OKLAHOMA?

Story On Friday, October 13, 2000, ufologist Jim Hickman "was
monitoring local law enforcement (radio channels) and at 7:31 p.m.
local time, a radio call came in that four or five fighter planes
were sighted by local police officers, and they were traveling to
the northwest." "At the same time, an unidentified flying object
(UFO) encountered the fighters and reportedly crashed into the
ground north of Elk City, Oklahoma."
The fighters were presumably from Ti-ker Air Force Base near
Oklahoma City. The descending UFO, Hickman reported, "was seen by
multiple witnesses as far west as Shamrock, Texas and as far east
as Clinton, Okla., north to Cheyenne, Okla. and south to Granite,
Okla."
According to a radio transmission reportedly made.
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From Al Bielek. ( Philadelphia Experiment survivor)

The Montauk station went back online in 1987 doing a totally
different thing. There are now 36 similar research projects. There
are particle beam weapons of such enormous power, putting out 1 x 10
to the 25th power joules. That's more power than a hydrogen bomb can
generate. Its purpose is to shoot down UFOs. They can fire into
space. Phil Schn-ider saw the huge junk piles of UFOs shot down by
the Russian versions of the Montauk operation. They had football
fields covered up to 50 feet thick with these things. Russians were
shooting them down at the rate of about 30 a week at that time.
We're shooting down five to seven a week in the US with our systems,
when they're operational. The Russians had set up a zone of
neutrality, which was anything from 250 miles above the surface of
the Earth down. No alien ship will go across that artificial border
without permission. If they do, the Russians don't care who they are,
and they'll shoot them down. They shot down a number of friendly
Pleiadian ships. If it's a known hostile, they'll shoot them down
much farther out than the 250 miles above limit.

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Feb 27, 2001, 7:08:07 PM2/27/01
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Subject: Something To Tickle Your Funny Bone. Feb. 27, 2001.

Here is something that a person sent me that may make you feel
your funny bone has been hit.

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From: g

Subject: More rel-gious humor
I know you have all seen church bulletin bloopers before,
but there are some new ones in this group! Enjoy, and have
a good belly laugh! Thank G-d for ch-rch ladies with
typewriters. These sentences actually appeared in a chu-ch
bulletin or were announced in a chur-h service:

Bertha Belch, a missionary from Africa will be speaking
tonight at Calvary Memorial Churc- in Racine. Come
tonight and hear Bertha Belch all the way from Africa.

Announcement in the ch-rch bulletin for a National PRAYER
& FASTING Conference: "The cost for attending the Fasting
and Prayer conference includes meals."

Ladies don't forget the rummage sale. It's a chance to get rid
of those things not worth keeping around the house. Don't
forget your husbands."

The peacemaking meeting scheduled for today has been
canceled due to a conflict.

The sermon this morning: "Je--s Walks on the Water" The
sermon tonight: "Searching for Jes--"

Next Thursday there will be tryouts for the choir. They need
all the help they can get.

Barbara remains in the hospital and needs blood donors for
more transfusions. She is also having trouble sleeping and
requests tapes of Pastor Jack's sermons.

During the absence of our Pastor, we enjoyed the rare privilege
of hearing a good sermon when J.F. Stubbs supplied our pulpit.

The Rector will preach his farewell message after which the
choir will sing "Break Forth into Joy."

Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our community.

Smile at someone who is hard to love. Say "h-ll" to someone
who doesn't care much about you.

Don't let worry kill you off --let the -hurch help.

At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be
"What is He-l?" Come early and listen to our choir practice.

Eight new choir robes are currently needed, due to the
addition of several new members and to the deterioration of
some older ones.

The senior choir invites any member of the congregation who
enjoys sinning to join the choir.

Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to
be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children.

Please place your donation in the envelope along with the
deceased person(s) you want remembered.

Potluck supper Sunday at 5:00 P.M.. --prayer and medication
to follow.

The ladies of the C-urch have cast off clothing of every kind.
They may be seen in the basement on Friday afternoon.

This evening at 7 P.M. there will be a hymn sing in the park
across from the Church. Bring a blanket and come prepared
to sin.

Ladies Bi-le Study will be held Thursday morning at 10. All
ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B.S.
is done.

Low Self Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 PM.
Please use the back door.

The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet
in the Church basement Friday at 7 PM. The Congregation is
invited to attend this tragedy.

Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM at the First Presbyterian
Ch-rch. Please use large double door at the side entrance.

The Associate Minister unveiled the church's new tithing
campaign slogan last Sunday: "I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours."

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Will The Real Ashtar Please Stand Up? Feb. 28, 2001.

If you hate Ashtar and despise channeling it might be best that
you not read the following.

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From: N
Subject: Ashtar Transmission
For your discernment.
February 24, 2001
Transmitted through Alora Sky
NMSky...@aol.com
This transmission is given for your discernment. May you find value
within it, that will assist you on your journey.

Greetings my friends and comrades,

It is I, Ashtar, speaking. With me I have Sananda, Lord Michael,
Korton, and the Master you have known as Hermes. Throughout this
transmission, we will speak as One, as well as through our individual
aspects.
Before we begin, we want to thank you for the great body of work
that is being accomplished and bow in honor before you. You of the
Light, now in physical form, are the ones who must stand tall against
the dark forces, and through your Light Reflection displace the hold
over your planet. We will always be behind you with our support, but
it is the embodied ones who must challenge the darkness with the
Light on YOUR level of vibration. You must learn the power of the
Light, the power of Invocation and Intent, and your identity with the
Christ Forces of Love in all dimensions. You may invoke the presence
of the Lord Michael, but having done so, it is NOW your responsibility
to discern, dispose and disperse the presence of darkness around you,
for this is your battleground, your arena of challenge. It is where
YOUR VICTORY must be won. Lord Michael is there to assist you, not to
do the work for you.
So much information has come through since the great measuring of
vibration which you called harmonic convergence, that we have chosen
to repeat much of the information that has come through in our messages
in prior transmissions. So, we begin with a brief history of the Ashtar
Command, and with it's role in the Great Quickening of your beloved
planet Shan, (Earth, Gaia or Terra as you refer to her).

Through Korton:

Ashtar is head commander of the Command known as Ashtar, appointed
to this position through Sananda, and the Radiant One. Normally, the
Ashtar Command patrols your solar system and is in charge of its
protection. We are all part of the great multiverse of Creation. All
help one another.
Therefore, though the Command's normal territory is your solar
system, for the Shan or Terra Project, the Ashtar Command is in charge
of coordinating the many fleets as they touch into the mission to
planet Earth. This includes the Galactic Federations of other
galaxies and the Intergalactic Federations of inter dimensional
universes. All, are under command of Ashtar, for this particular
project of the Radiant One. For this project has caught the attention
of ALL OF CREATION, and many have come near and far to be witness to
this event.
This mission is immense. It involves millions and millions of
souls, within the Intergalactic Fleets or in embodiment. Commander
Ashtar is the local Administrator of that broad program. He is
Protector and Defender, Advisor and Administrator. He is a protector
of humanity and of the fate of your planet as well as your entire
solar system. He is not an embodiment of an archangel, but works hand
in hand with Lord Michael and has oft times been referred to as a
herald angel. Ashtar is an etheric being, and has not been physically
embodied on your planet. Though, he has visited those of the Light,
embodied on your planet, who have the ability to see him in his
ethereal form. His honesty, integrity, loyalty and commitment to the
Supreme Commander in Chief, Sananda, and to the Radiant One is
unsurpassed.
Ashtar's home planet is the planet you call Venus. There is life on
all of the planets within your solar system, but within different
bandwidths of energy, or dimensional borders, than what you of planet
Earth exist within, at this current moment of NOW. Know that Ashtar
is in charge of overseeing the creative direction of the Radiant One,
through the guidance of Sananda.

************end Korton transmission.

Many times we have spoken to you of the importance of activating
your Light Channel continuously, and anchoring your LIGHT and LOVE
into the planet. This is the single most important job that you, as
an embodied being can do for the Radiant One and for ALL of CREATION.
The situation on your planet is, as it is, because of it's lack of
LIGHT. As you increase the LIGHT QUOTIENT of yourself and your
planet, you decrease the ability to be controlled by the dark ones
who had banished the Light on Earth eons ago.
The battle of Armageddon is within, as it is without. Your job
is to face not only those qualities that you love about yourself,
but especially those qualities that you do not like or consider
negative within yourself. Your job is to understand that WE are
ALL WORKING TOGETHER and to allow only respect, honor, loyalty and
love for all of the embodied ones of Light. If one perceives or
envisions slightly different from you, it is YOUR JOB to honor your
brother or sister's view point, not to attack them or insist that
you are right. We all have different areas of expertise, and what
one can see, another does not. It is time to practice and live the
art of ALLOWING.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Something To Tickle Your Funny Bone. Feb. 27, 2001.

Here is something that a person sent me that may make you feel
your funny bone has been hit.

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From: g

Subject: More rel-gious humor
I know you have all seen chu-ch bulletin bloopers before,

in the Ch-rch basement Friday at 7 PM. The Congregation is

Sir-A...@webtv.net

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Where`s all your proof?

Sir-Anthony

John F. Winston

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Subject: Encounter With The Little People. Mar. 1, 2001.

I have had my own share of working with the Little People. Here is
a person's experience with them. At the end of this posting is
a list that you can join if you are a good person and are trying to
make the world a better. If you are a materialistic sort of person
then it might be best you not bother trying to join. If you read
this sort of information and are not an open-minded sort of person
then you will think they and I are crazy and your the person who is
sane.

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From: M
Subject: The Multi-Dimensional News Portal [EARTH ASCENSION HEALING
NETWORK]
PROGRESS REPORT. 28/2/01.
All I am in loving service to the One.
[Earth Ascension Healing Network - Progress Report. 28/2/01.]
(The website is at www.aaum.org/etheric.htm - If there are any
questions or anything to share, please email Mirih at
marks...@yahoo.ie)

Healing with the Faerie Folk and Dragon energies.

Greetings beloved friends,

I have just returned after two days in Kinsale in the southwest of
Ireland. Two dear friends of mine are visiting here for the week and
made Dungarvan one of their destinations. I was invited to accompany
them further on their journey and feeling the gentle nudge of spirit,
I graciously accepted. It was a wondrous two days, as we explored some
of the beautiful places that Waterford has to offer, and I had the
opportunity to show them my hometown of Dungarvan. Our trip brought
us to a magical wood known as 'The Towers' and it was here we
reconnected with the vibration of the faerie folk energies. These
gentle beings were all around us as we made our way up to the tower
structures in the center of this forest ring. The vibration is very
soft and subtle and all around we were able to feel their gentle and
playful presence. Eve and Janet, my two companions work closely and
strongly with the Fae and Dragon energies, and one of their
companions, a water dragon by the name of 'Misty' was home for a
reunion with this incredible visit.
This experience for me was a reawakening and reactivation on a
conscious level of my deep and profound interconnection with this
sacred vibration.
I merged deeply with these energies and began a new contract of
radiating this consciousness as all I am in my flow. It was a
wondrous experience.
As I went along through the wood, Ii could feel the elves and
pixies and other fairies, swinging gently from my arms, playing on my
shoulders, and on my head. It made me laugh, and made me feel boyish
and feel likewise very playful as I bonded very innately once more,
with this sacred presence. I have already begun specific project work
with our beautiful friends, and while it is not on the same scale, as
the planetary work, it is equally as important, sacred and beautiful
to experience, as our friends, are here and have always been an innate
part of the earth experience and part of their role and why they are
here is to assist in restoring MotherEarth to her natural pristine
state of perfection.
So much work can be done and achieved in making a heart intent and
request to connect and operate with this consciousness, that are all
around us, all of the time, it is simply a case of being aware that
this is a huge dimensional party that never finishes. It is likewise
with Dragons. These beautiful multidimensional energies, that
shapeshift and hold very powerful and innately characteristic
vibrations are also a part of MotherEarth's ongoing healing
processes. My experience of my own interconnection with my dragon
consciousness, that I have always operated with, is that they are
profoundly loving beings, that work at many levels, and have many
unique roles and purposes. My dragon aspect is known as Shuarus, and
we have been bonded since I can remember, and we are always doing much
work at many dimensional levels. We are one and the same
consciousness, just as I am Mirih, Ishtar, and all aspects of all
that I am.
Day one of our trip saw us exploring some of the local areas of
incredible beauty around the dungarvan area. By the time we had left
the area of the towers, the work we had done assisted in electrifying
the entire faerie vibration, and I could feel the entire wood alive
with excitement and a tremendous vibration of the gentle love and
presence of all that they are. It was a beautiful and powerful
experience and my own conscious reconnection process, was beyond
words. I was as high as a kite for much of the day as a result. We
completed our tour with a place known as 'Mahon Falls.' It is a
mountain drive, with an incredible waterfall and a river extending
down for miles. It was a rather humorous experience as I had not
been there in so long, that I misjudged the distance and it took us
rather longer than expected to get there. Couple this with the fact
that dusk was approaching, a heavy wind was rising and the
temperature had seriously dropped due to the altitude. The profound
beauty of all around us as we drove left us beyond words as we were
experiencing all as one trinity energy, and the experience left us
well near heaven.
We finally approached the top and after getting out, we found that
we were spending more time being blown about, than walking or taking
in the vast energy all around us. Well the laughter we couldn't hold
back, as at first we couldn't get out of the car due to the wind,
and Janet's companion Misty (the water dragon) was trying to prevent
her from getting out due the severity of the wind. Plus Misty is a
water dragon and she was by now in a severe state of freezing, and
not in good spirits at all. Well we slid our way around the walkway,
and managed a couple of photos, and due to the fact that only one
of us had the right boots on, we just about made it back to the car
alive, without getting blown down the side of the mountain. And all
we could do was laugh. Misty at this stage was in the car and
wouldn't let us back in due to the cold, she was fuming, as this
wasn't exactly her preferred environment. We finally returned down the
mountain. We hadn't gotten to see the falls, but the sense of
clearness and the laughing we had experienced, had all felt very
healing. There had to be a reason for it.
The following day saw us in Kinsale, in the southwest, just south of
Co. Cork. The area was beautiful and we travelled around to many
ch-rches, cemetaries, coastal areas, beaches, wherever we were guided
to shine and work with our light. Each experience was as unique and
powerfully beautiful as the last, and as we worked with each area, I
could feel the story of each place and the pattern in the work we
had contracted for the day. The most incredible aspect of functioning
in tandem with spirit and being literally moved by presence, is that
one doesn't know what wonder is going to occur next, and this was
so for us in each experience we had over these couple of days, as we
weaved a powerful and divine tapestry of love, light and healing
with each step of our paths for our time together. It has been quite
a couple of days, and I am incredibly grateful for the experience.
We each felt many initiations in our journey together. We made
quite an impression as a trinity.

John F. Winston

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Part 2 of 2.

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Moving into Multidimensional Hyperspace.

We are now indeed greatly accelerating in all we are now experiencing
at all levels. Over the past week, i have felt a profound deepening
of the planetary vibration into the fifth dimension. I feel great
strides within the mass consciousness, and I feel literally
groundshaking movement within all world structures; Societal, political,
economic and financial.
There are now the many foundations being laid that are going to be the
basis for our newly forming reality matrix. Although i still feel much
procrastination within the various worldly control structures, they are
merely playing their games, in drawing out the inevitable, which is now
on the way; Our new birth in the light of our gentle creator. We are
this great light.
In the past week i have felt with great excitement, the foundation of
each reality space as originally put in place by the mass consciousness,
that was the original foundation of our old earth experience, giving way
and making way for the next level of shifting. I have felt the worldly
vibration, the mass consciousness, and all earth energy structures,
ascend space after new space. It is now occurring so quickly that I
have often felt movement that would have taken weeks in linear time,
now happening several times in the space of a day. There is now so
much positive energy radiating throughout all we experience, that it
is making each new plateau easier to attain and ascend. We have never
been more directly guided.
I feel the great plan of hea-en, and partly while I feel that it
is being drawn out, there of course is good reason for it.
The entirety of h-aven, each star system, countless galactic
fleets are viewing all we are now experiencing and are waiting for
the appropriate time to meet us, and it is with much excitement and
enthusiasm that they watch us now as we gradually find our way
through to reconnect with our greater source, our infinite selves,
an extension of all that we are.
And i feel that it will not be long. My own contracts in assisting
in the bringing forward of first contact are very specific and I
have directly felt myself over the past few weeks directly operating
in this vast process, through the introducing of many key structures,
that have set the necessary grounding energy structures that have been
so necessary, to bring the global vibration forward on the necessary
steps, to setup the conditions for an actual contact. The work is very
exciting, it takes great focus and patience. It is simply so powerful
that I can't help but feel enormous gratitude in being permitted to
assist at these levels.
So much progress has been made in the past fortnight with a view to
our coming first contact, that if we had a viewing screen or our
collective progress in contributing to all world affairs, we would be
shellshocked at our extraordinary and innate heart abilities, to
manifest intent and to focus the global flow in the upward ascending
mode assisting heaven in all which is now transpiring. Much has also
been achieved in the continuous mass transmutation which is occurring
at this time. As the mass consciousness have been making great
strides, there has been an equal amount of alternate misqualified
energy radiating out on a global scale, which has made it
increasingly difficult for all focused in increasing the true light
vibration to effectively operate due to the miasma of negativity,
being put out by all at this time.
Much of my current work is in mass transmutation at many
interdimensional planetary and galactic levels. We are also in the
final stages of the working out of all energies positive and negative
that have been operating in this system for so long. This is also
adding to the collective discordant vibration that we are all
experiencing at this time, for this 'contest' of energetic wills is
happening on many dimensional levels.
Much we do not see, but can be effectively sensed by any and all
who are appropriately tuned in. I have directly experienced the pool
of the alternate miasma of this vast interdimensional working out of
polarity energies. It can make simply operating a challenge as one
feels as though they are wading through a swamp of energies.
My intent and focus has been strong, and much alternate planetary
energy has been effectively shifted, however there is always more,
at least for now. Today I requested and petitioned to alter the
energetic vibration of the sun and convert her energy at the
appropriate levels to function as a massive solar crystal, radiating
and beaming the appropriate rays of healing into the planet. My
focus has been strongly in the past week to energetically bring
the higher dimensions here into to our earth experience. This is
in fact a simple operation, an energy operation, and all one needs to
do is to simply ask. Clearly focused, guided heart intents and
requests can move mountains and invariably they do whenever I get to
work. H-aven is simply so vast and loves interacting with us at
these levels, that when one's heart is pure in intent, the ascendant
rolls at one's feet. But you have to ask. All we are experiencing now,
is a drop in the ocean of the fullness and vastness of the creator.
It makes me feel, 'well where does the party, begin and finish?'
I likewise in my intent to deepen the vast interconnecting process
I am involved with at this time, invited all systems throughout
creation to manifested grids, vortex systems, energy portals and
doorways, to beam their rays of healing and clearence directly into
motherearth, therefore raising the vibration and accelerating the
reconnection process, with all which is Us. I had been requesting
of the ascendant all day, in a very strong and focused flow, of
manifesting countless systems of clearance, portals and energy
doorways, to deepen the connection of ONE with all we are
experiencing right now. The effects of the work have been beyond
words, as each time I feel hea-en moving at my requests and I feel
the structures coming into play. It alters the global vibration,
deepens the growing divine planetary flow and assists countless
beings in what they are collectively experiencing at this time.
The interdimensional, interplanetary system reconnection I could
feel occurring today, was simply beyond words, and it has effectively
reintegrated with Mother's flow, assisting her at countless levels
in the processes she is facilitating at this time. I am experiencing
the planetary vibration as very dense at this time, however it is
greatly softening, and I feel a great actual final opening up now
beginning to occur. I feel this as a vast dimensional opening up
that is happening at all planetary and galactic levels, that is at
last effectively 'opening the curtains' for so many now. We are at
last very close a vast conscious reconnection process with the
much expanded aspects of all that we are. We are finally almost
there.
It is most important at this time to be focused and grounded. For
the frequencies now entering the planet are going to continue to
accelerate and expand, and we will all be feeling many new
accelerations and expansions in our collective awareness. While
this process is wondrous, it is however vital to be effectively
and firmly grounded in our own guiding and loving presence. We
will soon be learning many new things, and part of being open and
ready to these wondrous new energies, is being grounded, for we will
be appropriately receptive and ready if we are thus so. Simply tune
into your own limitless and guiding IAM presence and all will simply
BE.
In divine loving service,
IAM Mirih.
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haven't the foggist.

John F. Winston

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Subject: Chemtrails, Begone! Feb. 3, 2001.

Due to the fact that the we of this world are still being sprayed
nearly everyday, I sent a request to a friend of mine. Let's just
call him Mr. C. I explained to him about what was happening in regards
to the Chemtrails and how they affected me. I asked him not to harm
the pilots of the jets who are putting this out because they probably
think they are doing a good thing and are just inoculating us against
Anthrax. The following information is very rough. Sometime extreme
situations require extreme measures to correct. Here is the letter I
got back from him.

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2-24-01

Dear John:

I have launched a program that should put an end to this spraying
soon and for good. The power el-te consists largely of an reptilian
r-ce that has infested this planet for ages. They can take on the
human form and pass for humans. In their normal state they are
humanoid reptiles. They have the head, eyes and hands of a reptile.
Many prominent individuals such as the Bu-hes, Ki-inger, Go-e, etc.
are, were reptiles. Some have seen B-sh sr. temporarily revert back
to the reptilian form. Their henchmen are largely evil humans. A
short time back I decided nothing really good can occur on this
planet until all of them are des-royed forever. I have been
blanketing both the northern and southern hemisphere with countless
billions of disintegrating rays encompassing the entire range of
ether. These rays are not directed to their bodies but their soul
centers. They have no defense against such a weapon and I am the
only one who has such a tool. You dest-oy the soul and all the
bodies d-e on the vine so to speak.

My dowsing indicates I have already destr-yed the bulk of them and
the rest should soon be gone. Interestingly enough they have had
robatoid replicas of every prominent individual that replaces any
of them that suddenly die or any that they have k-lled. The robatoid
is a flesh and blood robot that looks like them and talks like them
and nobody knows the difference. Jimmy Ca-ter was, is a prime
example. He was eliminated while still president but they fouled
up. The robatoid that replaced him parted his hair on the opposite
side of his head and was more irrational. After one of his jogging
sessions, he said he had been attacked by a swamp rabbit! I think
our new president is a robatoid. My dowsing indicates that for the
time being I should leave the robatoid replacement alone.

The pilots of these ships, that have done the spraying, I have
not compassion for. They can't help but be aware of what they have
been doing. If it is in order for their souls to be des-royed they
will be. At least I am projecting to ki-l their physical bodies.

I am sending you healing energies. Hopefully your karmic pattern
will allow a complete healing. I have a 90% batting average in this
department. I have done healings of all kinds,
Best Regards
J

P. S.

A few decades back, Louise Blunchard, who was prominent in the N-w
Age movement, told me she saw some people she knew make the
transition into the reptilian form. They didn't know she saw them.
It scared the h--l out of her. The reptoids I destro-ed over 10
years ago during the cave-in of those 85 installations was an
entirely different group.

JW Let me state that I like Jimmy Cart-r and Gor- and think they
are just swell.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Something Somebody Asked Me To Post. Mar. 5, 2001.

Here is something that an Internet friend of mine asked me to post.

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From: "Peter P." <ptp...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Can you do me a favor?
JW,
Can you do me a big favor, my friend? Since my last
posts on Usenet (just before "GP" dispatch#1 was
published), the posting service I used, dejanews, was
"bought out" by Googles. At this time, the Googles
software is the 'Beta' version, which only allows
reading of Usenet newsgroups, but *no* posting
capabilities yet.
I'd very much like to post a "preview/subscription"
message for dispatch #2, to be posted on three
newsgroups. Could you possibly post it, marked as a
"forwarded message", for me? If you can, I've placed
the forwarded message below, to be posted on these
newsgroups (and, if you'd like, any others you think
appropriate)...
alt.fan.john-winston
alt.current-events.earth-changes
alt.fan.art-bell
Preview message below, "boxed" at top & bottom so you
can "cut/paste" the boxed area only into a Usenet
message buffer... I thank you now, if you do, in fact,
assist with this... If you don't think you can, that's
ok, all I ask is just let me know. Thanks...
==================================================
<forwarded message>
From the desk of Peter P., editor of "Global
Progressions"...
'globalprogressions' dispatch#2 is slated to be
distributed on MARCH 10, 2001. It will include three
original articles by the editor...
* "Sach's Harbour: Present-day microcosm of future
global environmental change"
* "A Look at Modern-day Earthquake Prediction Methods"
* "Cattle Mutilations Mystery SOLVED!"
Plus, dispatch#2 will include another installment of
'The Winston Files', the usual "report from the 'edge
of reality'" by popular 'netizen-at-large John F.
Winston.
(JW I have written posting for Peter before. He has
asked me to repost my last trip to Mt. Shasta. I can't
seem to find them now. They were posted beginning on
about July 5th 2000. If anyone out there has that
series of postings please send them to me. It was
about me looking for "The Redhead" and finding out that
she was called "The Pig Lady".)
This dispatch will be rounded out with "earth changes"
news briefs, book reviews, more list bookmarks, and a
few quotes of spiritual interest.
To receive 'globalprogressions' by-email starting with
dispatch#2, you must SUBSCRIBE *before* its March 10th
distribution date. (Otherwise your subscription will
begin with #3, next month's edition.)
To SUBSCRIBE to 'globalprogressions', send an email
(no text in body of message) To:
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You'll then receive confirmation by-email and, on
March 10th, the newest dispatch previewed above. For
general list info, you may click on...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalprogressions
Thank you... Peter P., editor
<end forwarded message>
====================================================
____________________________________________

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


Wally Angleseaâ„¢

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On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:11:27 -0800, "John F. Winston"
<john...@mlode.com> wrote:

>Subject: Something Somebody Asked Me To Post. Mar. 5, 2001.
>
> Here is something that an Internet friend of mine asked me to post.

the voices in your head don'r count, John.

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John F. Winston

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Subject: Something About the Seattle Earthquake. Mar. 6, 2001.

This information is about the Seattle Earthquakes and the Giant
Redwood trees being protected.

Here is something that is channeled material from a new person
called Tawatnaw.

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From: l
Subject: Lady Kadjina Speaks March 4, 2001

Wayne: On February 28, 2001, there were two significant earthquakes
along the west coast of North and Central America within 5 minutes of
each other. These were the 6.1 in El Salvador and the 6.8 in the
Seattle area. Are these quakes related to some common cause, other
than being along the same major tectonic plate, and if so, how?
(3/2/01)

Good Morning. This is Tawatnaw. It has been some time since I spoke
with you. I am one who has an energy that is difficult for humans to
allow to come through their physicality. I have devised a method by
which I am able to filter some of my energy so as not to cause so
much stress to Kay. But did you notice how she immediately sat up
straight when our energies connected?
Concerning the earthquakes and earthquakes in general. There is no
such thing as an accident. They are all by design. And the design
is ours. There are some who say that the organization HAARP set off
a series of energetic patterns. But we are able to control these
things. And we decided to allow these two events to happen because
they can work for the highest good.
Concerning the quake in Seattle, it is showing those who govern
construction the value of quality in construction practices. And this
is important to the large metropolitan areas. Concerning the quake
in El Salvador, when this quake energy was released, it was known
that two things would happen: it would make a direct path into the
Seattle area, relieving a great deal of stress and releasing a
considerable amount of energy. And this in turn would set off a series
of lesser quakes in the area of Chile, in the Andes. This will in
turn alleviate some of the stress in Peru. Now Peru contains the
great city that we have often spoken of. It is imperative that this
city be open and exposed, but in a way that is undamaged. The
information contained in this place must be kept intact. So that when
the information is released, it must be as a door swinging
open-smoothly-so as not to collapse that particular infrastructure.
There will be many quakes in many places that will serve as wake-up
calls. Construction must not take place in areas where there is a
grid energy output or release. Only in those areas of incoming
energy should there be construction. Also the quality of construction
will become of paramount importance. As stress is placed upon
insurance companies and as some of the major ones are threatened with
the possibility of bankruptcy, they will begin to say, "We can no
longer insure construction on ocean front hillsides and fault line
zones and flood zones, or in those areas close to active volcanoes."
Engineering firms will begin devising building modes with greater
stress design factors that will allow buildings to sway without
crumbling and laws will become stricter enforcing this type of
construction. And these technologies will be applied to the fault
lines in the Mississippi and Ohio River valleys.
There are methods of construction to protect against tornadoes as
well. The 17 houses in Homestead, Florida, that were constructed by
Jimmy Carter and Habitat for Humanity were left standing at the
time of the tornado in Homestead. And those houses were not that
much more expensive to build than the homes that were destroyed.
It's a matter of sound building practices. You have often said
that "money talks." And when it becomes known to the masses that safe
construction is possible, the people will begin to demand safe
building practices.
Not only were these two quakes on the same fault line, but they
are a part of the same energy grid system, so that when energy is
released at one point of a grid, it automatically will go to another
point on the same grid.
Wayne: Was HAARP involved in the creation of the energy that
triggered the two quakes mentioned?
Yes, they were and we could have blocked that energy release but
it served our purposes. It must be understood that all of these
agencies and organizations when functioning in their own
self-interest, unless it is for the greater good, their plans will
not work. When we who are constantly monitoring these things saw
what they were going to do, we used that energy ourselves as a way of
releasing pressure and tension without the loss of life. And we shall
continue to closely monitor all of these activities.
Wayne: On March 2, 2001, we received a series of photos from Lee
Chin, showing a light source over her property and within/around
large trees on her property near Seattle, Washington. Can you tell
us what is the source of the light and what information is relevant
to its appearance?
There are certain incarnated beings that possess through their
sp-ritual evolvement a certain type of personal energy grid that is
able to interact at this time with both the energy grid systems of
Lady Gaia and the galactic energy grid systems. They have come at
this time as volunteers to assist in this particular alignment
process.
Those energetic formations that are of a dome shape were placed
there by the light beings as a way of protecting the life forms in
the area from negative energies in that area. There are many
chemicals in the atmosphere in and around that area that would be
a detriment to the work of the soul, hence this protective device.
The cylindrical shaped light beam is of an energy of that particular
tree which is a very old tree and it is calling out to the energies
of the galaxy for relief, for these old trees are sentient beings
also. Many of these same types of light formations could be
photographed in connection with the ancient trees of the sequoias
and the redwoods. And those who have the camera and are willing to
take the photographs will begin to attract the attention of certain
segments of the scientific community-those for instance who were
willing to investigate such phenomena as those beings who can bend
pieces of metal, translocate objects, raise and lower temperatures
of water in containers, and remote viewing-will become attracted to
investigating this type of phenomena as well.
Another part of this photography is something similar to the
Jacob's Ladder of dimensional passport. There are indeed passageways
between various dimensions, planes and worlds. And certain
incarnated beings have agreed to assist in putting forth information.
Kirlean photography, for example, has gained credibility. There are
also many who do spirit photography using the Polaroid camera. This
too has gained a level of credibility. So this type of photography
is like taking the next step to let you know that Jacob's Ladder is
more than symbology-it's real.
There is a photograph that has been called the Division of Worlds.
This is in actuality a photograph of the process of clearing the
ozone layer. The ozone layer is in process of being destroyed. In
the beginning of Planet Earth, it did not exist. The Sun was
considered friendly. It did not burn or cause c-ncer. It is the
ozone layer that has done this; not the Sun. Mothers do not harm
their children. And as we have said previously, we placed the ozone
layer around you in order to protect life forms out here in the
galaxy from your warfare energies. Now, with the star tetrahedron
in place, and the inner world blue-white cross at full rotation and
functioning capabilities, the ozone layer can now safely be removed.
Any hostile energies that people of Planet Earth release will be
kept within the spheres of the protective shielding. Nothing
whatsoever can leave Planet Earth without permission, nor can
anything enter Planet Earth without permission.
At this point I would like to add that the object approaching in
the year 2003 is to be considered a blessing. It is not in any way a
destructive energy. It is not to be considered a threat or a
cataclysmic event. This object can be called by many names: the
12th Planet, Nibiru, Planet X. It is most definitely benevolent in
nature. As of this time, the great planetary thoughtforms from the
times of Lemuria that have gained strength down through time have been
removed and transmuted and returned to primordial source. No longer
are they giving their energy to those who would control the population.
The humans who like to run the show are on their own now. No longer
do they have the strength of either Lord Lucifer or Lord Satan, for
both of these beings are fully within the light. And no longer are
they holding in place the reflective mirror. This is the reason that
what you do these days brings about a very fast response.
For the mirror acted as a buffer. You no longer have that type of
buffering system. This is why there is so much talk about
self-responsibility and why we speak of the necessity of integrity
in the fields of construction and also the field of insurance. It
all has to do with taking back your personal power.
A further purpose of these demonstrations of the light photography
is to give those humans willing to listen a better understanding of
just what light is-its purpose and its function, and to give clues as
to the relationship of light to alchemy. Those of you concerned about
the activities of HAARP or the activities of the misuse of Tesla
energies or the mil-tary use of chemical spraying-and now you have
the Pent-gon who is going to begin to use electromagnetic wa-fare
testing on goats and some humans (which incidentally means you)-and
if you have a concern for your safety, then we would give you this
help. Everyone who reads these messages is familiar with meditation
and visualization. All of you know how to construct the auric egg
around your physicality and you know how to close that egg to
protect yourself. That auric egg is nothing but light or prana and
you manipulate it through your conscious activity in such a way that
you protect yourself. Now use that same methodology and tap into the
great ocean of life-which is another name for pranic substance or
creative energy-and become very creative. Visualize electric
light-which is another form of prana-and create an inverted bowl,
or dome, over your property. If you want to, construct something like
an umbilical chord which would act like a funnel and connect that
to a great ocean of life or light and see this umbilical chord drawing
from the source of life this liquid light and see it feeding energy
into this dome so that it is constantly being re-energized. Now, one
function of an umbilical chord is not only to feed, but also to
siphon off substances that are unneeded. And this would be any
chemicals that touch upon this liquid light. This liquid light would
act like one of your bug zappers and the umbilical chord would then
draw it all off and return it to source for transmutation. Every one
of you who reads these messages has been led to this particular
website because you are a lightworker. Now a lightworker is one who
works and the tool they use is light. Prana is light. So use it to
protect yourself, your families, your animals, your vegetation,
your water, and your well-being. This gives a new meaning to your
ability to move mountains. And this is something that each of you
can do.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com


John F. Winston

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Subject: Gilliland Will Be On Art Bell Show On Friday. Mar. 8, 2001.

Here is some information about a person who respect highly. He
will be on the Art Bell show tomorrow night talking about the many
UFOs that appear over his property in Oregon.

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From: J

Subject: James Gilliland on Coast to Coast AM 03/09/01 - Fri/Sat
03/09/01 - Fri/Sat
Host: Ian Punnett
http://www.artbell.com/schedule.html
Guest: James Gilliland, author of "Becoming Gods" I and II
Website: www.cazekiel.org
Look here to find a radio station near you:
http://www.artbell.com/stations.html
(JW I can't seem to get that information. Will someone please
send that information about the different radio stations that carry
the Art Bell show?)

Or tune in live on the internet:
http://www.artbell.com/audio.html
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Subject: List of Stations That Carry Art Bell Show. Mar. 9, 2001

Here is a list of most of the stations that cover the Art Bell
Radio Talk Show.

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From: M
Subject: Radio Stations
Hope this helps...if I missed a state, let me know. I don't have
time to format entire list...
M

Affiliate Stations

Alaska
ANCHORAGE KENI 650
CORDOVA KLAM 1450
FAIRBANKS KFAR 660
JUNEAU KINY 800
KETCHIKAN KFMJ 99.9
KODIAK KVOK 560


Alabama
BIRMINGHAM WERC 960
BRIDGEPORT WKEA 1480
DOTHAN WWNT 1450
FLORENCE WBCF 1240
FT PAYNE WDLL 1400
GADSDEN WAAX 570
GUNTERSVILLE WGSV 1270
MOBILE WNTM 710
MONTGOMERY WACV 1170
TUSCALOOSA WTBC 1230

Arkansas
CABOT KKRN 102.5
EL DORADO KELD 1400
FAYETTEVILLE KFAY 1030
FORT SMITH KWHN 1320
HUMNOKE KARN-FM 101.7
LITTLE ROCK KARN 920
PINE BLUFF KOTN 1490

Arizona
FLAGSTAFF KVNA 600
GLOBE KRXS 97.3
KINGMAN KAAA 1300
PHOENIX KF 550
SEDONA KAZM 780
SHOW LOW KVSL 1450
SIERRA VISTA KTAN 1420
TUCSON KNST 790
YUMA KBLU 560

California
BAKERSFIELD KNZR 1560
CARMEL VALLEY KIEZ 540
CHICO KPAY 1290
EL CENTRO KAMP 1430
EUREKA KGOE 1480
FORT BRAGG KDAC 1230
FRESNO KMJ 580
GRASS VALLEY KNCO 830
LOS ANGELES KFI 640
MARYSVILLE KMYC 1450
MERCED KYOS 1480
MODESTO KFIV 1360
MONTEREY KNRY 1240
MT SHASTA KWHO 102.3
NEEDLES KTOX 1340
PALM SPRINGS KNWQ 1140
PASA ROBLES KPRL 1230
PORT HUENEME KVTA 1520
PORTERVILLE KTIP 1450
QUINCEY KSPY-FM 100.3
REDDING KQMS 1400
SACRAMENTO KSTE 650
SAN DIEGO KOGO 600
SAN FRANCISCO KSFO 560
SANTA BARBARA KTMS 990
SANTA CRUZ KSCO 1080
SANTA MARIA KSMA 1240
SANTA ROSA KSRO 1350
UKIAH KUKI 1400
WATSONVILLE KOMY 1340
WILLITS KLLK 1250

Connecticutt
NEW HAVEN WELI 960

Colorado
ASPEN KNFO 106.1
COLORADO SPRINGS KVOR 740
DENVER KHOW 630
FORT COLLINS KCOL 1410
GRAND JUNCTION KNZZ 1100
KREMMLING KRKM 106.3
PUEBLO KCSJ 590

Delaware
REHOBOTH BEACH WGMD 92.7
WILMINGTON WDEL 1150

Florida
BROOKSVILLE WWJB 1450
DAYTONA BEACH WNDB 1150
FT MYERS WTLQ 1200
FORT PIERCE WJNX 1330
FT WALTON BEACH WFTW 1260
GAINESVILLE WSKY-FM 97.3
JACKSONVILLE WOKV 690
LAMONT WTAL-FM 105.7
LEESBURG WQBQ 1410
MARIANNA WTOT 980
MELBOURNE WMEL 920
MIAMI WIOD 610
NAPLES WINK 1240
NAPLES WNOG 1270
ORLANDO/TAMPA WFLA 540
PANAMA CITY WLTG 1430
PORT ST. LUCIE 1590
SARASOTA WSPB 1450
SEEBRING WWTK 730
ST AUGUSTINE WFOY 1240
WEST PALM BEACH WJNO 1040

Georgia
ALBANY WALG 5KW 1590
ATLANTA WGST 1KW 640
AUGUSTA WGAC 5KW 580
BLACKSHEAR WGIA 25/117W 1350
BRUNSWICK WGIG 5KW 1440
DALTON WBLJ 1KW 1230
GAINSVILLE WDUN 10KW 550
MACON WMAC 50KW 940

Hawaii
HILO KPUA 10KW 670
HONOLULU KHVH 10KW 830
LIHUE KQNG 1KW 570
WAILUKU KAOI 5KW 1110

Idaho
BOISE KIDO 5KW 630
BONNERS FERRY KBFI 1KW 1450
IDAHO FALLS KID 5KW 590
LEWISTON KOZE 5KW 950
POCATELLO KWIK 1KW 1240
SANDPOINT KSPT 1KW 1400
TWIN FALLS KLIX 5KW 1310
Illinois
BLOOMINGTON WJBC 1KW 1230
CARTERVILLE WJPF 1KW 1340
CHICAGO WLS 50/50 KW 890
DECATUR WSOY 1KW 1340
FAIRFIELD WFIW 1KW 1390
MT. VERNON WMIX 5KW 940
OTTAWA WCMY 500W 1430
PEORIA WMBD 5KW 1470
QUINCY WTAD 5KW 930
ROCKFORD WROK 5KW 1440
STERLING WSDR 500 1240
SPRINGFIELD WTAX 1KW 1240

Indiana
AUBURN WGLL 1KW 1570
BLOOMINGTON WGCL 5KW 1370
COLUMBUS WCSI 500 1010
EVANSVILLE WGBF 5/1KW 1280
FORT WAYNE WGL 5KW 1250
INDIANAPOLIS WIBC 10KW 1070
MARION WGOM 1/500W 860
NORTH VERNON WNVI 1KW 1460
PRINCETON WRAY 1KW 1250
RICHMOND WHON 500 930
SOUTH BEND WSBT 5KW 960
TELL CITY WTCJ 1KW 1230

Iowa
CEDAR FALLS KCNZ 500 1250
CEDAR FALLS KDNZ 10KW 1650
CEDAR RAPIDS WMT 5KW 600
DAVENPORT WOC 5KW 1420
FAIRFIELD KMCD 250 1570
FORT MADISON KBKB 1KW 1360
IOWA CITY KXIC 1KW 800
OELWEIN KOEL 5KW 950
OTTUMWA KLEE 500W 1480
SIOUX CITY KSCJ 5KW 1360
SPENCER KICD 1KW 1240

Kansas
CHANUTE KKOY 1KW 1460
PITTSBURG KKOW 10/5KW 860
SALINA KSAL 5/KW 1150
TOPEKA KMAJ 5KW 1440
WESTWOOD KCMO 50KW 710
WICHITA KFH 5KW 1330

Kentucky
HOPKINSVILLE WHOP 1KW 1230
LEXINGTON WLAP 5KW 630
LOUISVILLE WWKY 5KW 790
MURRAY WNBS 1KW 1340
OWENSBORO WOMI 1KW 1490
WHITESBURG WTCW 4.2/43W 920

Louisana
BATON ROUGE WJBO 1150
LAFAYETTE KPEL 1KW 1420
NEW ORLEANS WSMB 5KW 1350
SHREVEPORT KEEL 50KW 710

Maine
BANGOR/HOWLAND WVOM 100KW 103.9
PORTLAND WGAN 5KW 560
ROCKLAND WRKD 1KW 1450
SOUTH PORTLAND WGAN 5KW 560

John F. Winston

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Mar 9, 2001, 8:18:16 PM3/9/01
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Part 2 of 2.

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Maryland
FREDERICK WFMD 5KW 930

Massachusetts
BOSTON WRKO 50KW 680
SPRINGFIELD WHYN 5/1KW 560
WORCESTER WTAG 5KW 580
WEST YARMOUTH WXTK 50KW 95.1
Michigan
ALPENA WATZ 1KW 1450
BATTLE CREEK WBCK 5/1KW 930
DETROIT/WINSOR CKLW 800
FLINT WFDF 5/1KW 910
GRAND RAPIDS WOOD 5KW 1300
IRON MOUNTAIN WMIQ 1KW 1450
JACKSON WKHM 1KW 970
KALAMAZOO WKZO 5KW 590
LANSING WJIM 1KW 1240
MUSKEGON WKBZ 10KW 1520
PETOSKEY WJML 10KW 1110
SAGINAW WSGW 5KW 790
SAULT STE MARIE WKNW 250 1400
TRAVERSE CITY WTCM 5KW 580
Minnesota
BEMIDJI KKBJ 5KW 1360
BRAINERD WWWI 5KW 1270
DETROIT LAKES KDLM 1KW 1340
DULUTH WEBC 5KW 560
EVELETH KRBT 1KW 1340
HIBBING WNMT 10KW 650
LITTLE FALLS KLTF 5KW 960
MANKATO KTOE 5KW 1420
MINN-ST PAUL KSTP 50KW 1500
ROCHESTER KROC 1KW 1340
SAINT CLOUD KNSI 1KW 1450
WINONA KWNO 1KW 1380

Missouri
AURORA KSWM 1KW 940
CAPE GIRARDEAU KZIM 5KW 960
COLUMBIA KFRU 1KW 1400
FARMINGTON KREI 1KW 800
FESTUS KJFF 1KW 1400
JEFFERSON CITY KWOS 1KW 1240
JOPLIN KQYX 10KW 1560
OSAGE BEACH KRMS 1KW 1150
SEDALIA KSIS 1KW 1050
SIKESTON KSIM 1KW 1400
SPRINGFIELD KWTO 5KW 560
ST LOUIS KTFK-FM 100KW 97.1
WASHINGTON KLPW 1KW 1220
WESTWOOD KS KCMO 50KW 710
Montana

BILLINGS KBLG 1KW 910
BOZEMAN KMMS 1KW 1450
GREAT FALLS KQDI 1KW 1450
HELENA KCAP 1KW 1340
KALISPELL KJJR 10KW 690
MISSOULA KGVO 5KW 1290

Nebraska
KEARNEY KGFW 1KW 1340
OMAHA KFAB 50KW 1110
LINCOLN KLIN 1400
SCOTTSBLUFF KOLT 5KW 1320

Nevada
ELKO KTSN 1KW 1340
LAS VEGAS KDWN 50KW 720
RENO KKOH 50KW 780

New Hampshire
MANCHESTER WGIR 5KW 610
PORTSMOUTH WGIP 5KW 1540
ROCHESTER WGIN 5KW 930

New Jersey
NEW BRUNSWICK WCTC 1KW 1450
FLEMINGTON WJHR 1KW 1040

New Mexico
ALAMAGORDO KINN 1KW 1270
ALBUQUERQUE KKOB 35KW 770
ARTESIA KSVP 1/250W 990
FARMINGTON KENN 5KW 1390
LAS CRUCES KOBE 1KW 1450
ROSWELL KBIM 5KW 910
RUIDOSO DOWNS KRUI 1KW 1490

New York
ALBANY WGY 50KW 810
BINGHAMTON WNBF 5KW 1290
BUFFALO WBEN 5KW 930
GENEVA WGVA 1KW 1240
GLENS FALLS WWSC 1KW 1450
KINGSTON WGHQ 5KW 920
NEW YORK WABC 50/50 KW 770
ROCHESTER WHTK 5KW 1280
SYRACUSE WSYR 5KW 570
UTICA WIBX 5KW 950
WATERTOWN WTNY 1KW 790

North Carolina
FAYETTEVILLE WFNC-AM 1KW 640
FAYETTEVILLE WFNC-FM 6KW 102.3
GOLDSBORO WGBR 5KW 1150
GREENSBORO WMFR 1KW 1230
HENDERSONVILLE WHKP 990/990 W 1450
LEXINGTON WLXN 5KW 1440
SALISBURY WSTP 1KW 1490
SOUTHERN PINES WEEB 10KW 990
WILMINGTON WAAV 5KW 980

North Dakota
FARGO KVOX 1KW 1280
GRAND FORKS KCNN 5KW 1590

Ohio
SHTABULA WFUN 5/1 KW 970
BELLAIRE WOMP 1KW 1290
ASHTABULA WFUN 5/1 KW 970
CANTON WHBC 5KW 1480
CINCINNATI WKRC 5KW 550
CLEVELAND WTAM 50KW 1100
COLUMBUS WTVN 5KW 610
DAYTON WONE 5KW 980
LIMA WIMA 1KW 1150
MANSFIELD WMAN 1KW 1400
MARION WMRN 1KW 1490
STEUBENVILLE WSTV 1KW 1340
TOLEDO WSPD 5KW 1370
YOUNGSTOWN WKBN 5KW 570

Oklahoma
BARTLESVILLE KWON 1KW 1400
ENID KCRC 1KW 1390
OKLAHOMA CITY KTOK 5KW 1000
Oregon
ASTORIA KAST 1KW 1370
BAKER CITY KBKR 1KW 1490
BEND KBND 10KW 1110
COQUILLE KWRO 5KW 630
CORVALLIS KLOO 1KW 1340
ENTERPRISE KWVR 1KW 1340
EUGENE KPNW 50KW 1120
GRANTS PASS KRRM 94.7
KLAMATH FALLS KAGO 5KW 1150
LA GRAND KLBM 1KW 1450
LEBANON/HANOVER 1KW 1400
MEDFORD KCMX 1KW 880
PORTLAND KEX 50KW 1190
ROSEBURG KTBR 1KW 950

Pennsylvania
ALLENTOWN WAEB 3.8/1.5KW 790
ALTOONA WFBG 5KW 1290
BEAVER FALLS WBVP 1KW 1230
Chambersburg WCHA 1/96W 800
CLARION WWCH 1/36W 1300
STATE COLLEGE WBLF 1/74W 970
ERIE WLKK 1KW 1400
HARRISBURG WHP 5KW 580
HAZLETON WILP 5KW 1300
MEADVILLE WMGW 1KW 1490
MILTON WMLP 1KW 1380
NEW CASTLE WKST 1KW 1200
PHILADELPHIA WPHT 50KW 1210
PHILIPSBURG WPHB 5KW 1260
PITTSBURGH WPTT 5KW 1360
PITTSON WILK 5KW 980
READING WEEU IKW 830
SCRANTON WGBI 1KW 910
STATE COLLEGE WRSC 2.5KW 1390
WILLIAMSPORT WRAK 1KW 1400

Rhode Island
EAST PROVIDENCE WPRO 5KW 630
South Carolina
ANDERSON WAIM 1KW 1230
CHARLESTON WSCC 20KW 730
COLUMBIA WVOC 5KW 560
GREENVILLE WORD 5KW 1330
LAURENS WBDQ-FM 420W 94.1
MYRTLE BEACH WRNN 25KW 99.5
SPARTANBURG WYRD 5KW 910

South Dakota
MITCHELL KORN 1KW 1490
RAPID CITY KOTA 5KW 1380
SIOUX FALLS KELO 5KW 1320

Tennessee
CHATTANOOGA WGOW 6KW 102.3
CLARKSVILLE WDXN 55 540
KNOXVILLE WNOX 1KW 99.1
MEMPHIS WREC 5KW 600
NASHVILLE WWTN 100KW 99.7

Texas
ABILENE KWKC 1KW 1340
AMARILLO KGNC 710
AUSTIN KLBJ 5/1KW 590
BEAUMONT KLVI 5KW 560
BROWNWOOD KXYL 1kw 1240
COLLEGE STATION WTAW 1KW 1150
DALLAS KLIF 5KW 570
DENISON-SHERMAN KKLF 500 950
EDINBURG KURV 1KW 710
EL PASO KTSM 5KW 690
GLADWATER KEES 1KW 1430
HOUSTON KTRH 50KW 740
LAREDO KLNT 1KW 1490
LUBBOCK KFYO 5KW 790
MIDLAND/ODESSA KMND 2.4KW 1510
ODDESA KRIL 1KW 1410
SAN ANTONIO WOAI 50KW 1200

Utah
BLANDING KUTA 1KW 790
CEDAR CITY KSUB 5KW 590
LOGAN KVNU 5KW 610
PRICE KOAL 1KW 750
RITCHFIELD KSVC 5KW 980
SALT LAKE CITY KNRS 5KW 570
ST GEORGE KDXU 10KW 890

Vermont
BLANDING KUTA 1KW 790
CEDAR CITY KSUB 5KW 590
LOGAN KVNU 5KW 610
PRICE KOAL 1KW 750
RITCHFIELD KSVC 5KW 980
SALT LAKE CITY KNRS 5KW 570
ST GEORGE KDXU 10KW 890

Virginia
BRISTOL WXBQ 96.9
FREDRICKSBURG WFVA 1KW 1230
LEXINGTON WREL 1KW 1450
MADISON HEIGHTS WLNI 6KW 105.9
NORFOLK WNIS 5KW 790
RICHMOND WRVA 50KW 1140
ROANOAK WFIR 5KW 960
WINCHESTER WINC 1KW 1400

Washington
ABERDEEN KXRO 5KW 1320
ANACORTES KLKI 1KW 1340
BELLINGHAM KGMI 5KW 790
CENTRALIA KELA 5KW 1470
COLFAX KMAX 1KW 840
COLVILLE KCVL 1KW 1240
ELLENSBURG KXLE 1KW 1240
MOSES LAKE KBSN 5KW 1470
PULLMAN KQQQ 1KW 650
SEATTLE KOMO 50KW 1000
SPOKANE KGA 50KW 1510
TRI-CITIES KONA 5KW 610
WALLA WALLA KUJ 5KW 1420
WENATCHEE KPQ 5KW 560
YAKIMA KIT 5KW 1280

Washington D.C.
WASHINGTON WWRC 5KW 570
West Virginia
HUNTINGTON WVHU 5KW/183 800
VIENNA WLTP 1KW 1450
Wisconsin
AMERY WXCE 2KW 1260

Wisconsin
AMERY WXCE 2KW 1260
EAU CLAIRE WAYY 5KW 790
FOND DU LAC KFIZ 1KW 1450
GREEN BAY WGEE 5KW 1360
JANESVILLE WCLO 1KW 1230
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John F. Winston

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Mar 11, 2001, 10:39:35 AM3/11/01
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Subject: The State Of John Winston For 2001. Mar. 10, 2001.

As most of you know we have a State Of The Nation speech given
by the president to let us know how our nation is doing. We have
a State Of The State speech by Governors to let us know how the
particular state we live in is doing. I give The State Of John
Winston postings to let people know how I'm doing. I know this
will sound like I have a super ego in doing this but some people
want to know.

As I have stated in the past, it is my opinion that there is
such a thing as Chemtrails that are being sprayed throughout the
world. I am normally very healthy and in the past have climbed to
the top of Mt. Shasta, run the Bay To Breakers race two times which
is a 10 k race and also run the 4 mile race. I managed to get
through them OK. Each time I promised myself that I'm going to
get in better shape the next time I try something like that. I
also promised myself that the next time I go hiking or running
I'll take a helicopter. During the last 6 years I've not been to
a doctor or even know a doctor.

I have already reported that about 2 months ago I made the mistake
of staying outside fishing during the time that Chemtrails were
being laid down. They were pretty thick and there was even weird
spider web type substances coming down with the each web being split
into about 4 or more parts on one end. Immediately after this I
developed upper respiratory breathing problems. My lungs were
filling up with clear water, not plegm. I would wake up strangling
about 10 or more times a night and the only way I could breath was
to emit a low frequency noise from my mouth that would vibrate the
lungs and get some air through them. The sounded and was a groan. I
finally got to doing this so loud that a person couldn't sleep even
in the next story of the house from me. I was on the second story
of my house and my friend was on the first story.

I next decided to go and see the doctor. They EX-rayed me and
sure enough my lungs were filled with water. They next decided to
send my to have an EKG to check out my heart. It was found that
that my heart was beating to fast (135 pulses per minute), my heart
was too weak, it was fibulating and unregular. The valves weren't
doing too well either. My blood was too thick. Later on they found
that my blood pressure level was too high. After checking this
if shook up the nurse so much that I was put in a wheel chair because
they figured I was going to have a heart attack any second. They later
found that my heart was too big for my body size. About the only
things that was normal was my cloistral level which was 140. For
me in the past it runs about 210.

The doctor hitched me up to a scope and administered some medicine
to me intravenously and go me to operate nearly normal. They
gave me some water pills that caused me to urinate about 16 times
in a short period of time. I lost 5 lbs. in about 10 hours time.
They then gave me another shot to replace the potassium that I was
loosing. This removed the water from my lungs and I could breath
OK again.

Next they gave me Coumadin (which I understand is a rat poison,
but then strychnine is also a rat poison and they give it to
people who have heart problems.) After about 2 more months of taking
this with about 12 blood test with a needle they got my Coumadin level
to read steadily between the numbers 2 and 3. So now my blood
is at the thickness so it will travel through my heart and I not have
a heart attack.

I take another pill that slows down my pulse rate to about 82
which is normal for me. I took some blood pressure medicine that
lower my blood pressure so it is now normal.

I went in to get some glasses later and the eye doctor told
me that I had lost the use of my my right eye due to Monacular
Degeneration and that it was incurable. Later my doctor told
me that if I can get my blood functioning OK then that problem
will go away but I still have it now. I'm hoping to correct this
soon and it appears to be a little better.

After all of this my doctor, who I have the greatest respect for,
told me that she would like for me to go through the process called
Cardio Section. It laymen terms that means Electric Shock Treatment.
This she wanted to do so that my heart would become regular and
not have fibulations. I made the mistake of letting some of my
friends know about this and they really gave me a lot of kidding
about going under the paddles. At the time I didn't know how they
were going to do this to me in the hospital.

They had me sign a lot of forms saying how that this procedure
sometimes causes a person to have a heart attach and even death.
They figured about 1% don't make it. So I figured I'd do it anyway.
They even warn you that this sometimes burns you where the
electrodes are attached.

On the day of the procedure I showed up and I'm feeling pretty good.
They put me on a table and hitched me up to a scope that shows my
heart beat. The doctor looks at it and sure enough I still had
an irregular heart beat and fibulations. They next put an IV in
my arm so them can administer some drug to me to knock me out.
They put a thing on the end of my finger to monitor something also.
Next they put about 6 more electrodes on me plus all the ones you
need to have a EKG. Last they put the two big electrodes, each
about 5 inches around. One of them on the right side of the chest
and one of the back left side of the body. These would do the
same job as the paddles used by emergency people.

They put a air mask on my nose and I breathed some air for about
30 minutes that smelled like rotting hay in a barnyard. They then
told me that during the time that they administered the drug to knock
me out they would also give me oxygen just in case I didn't breath
for a while.

So this was it. They administered the pain killing anesthesia to
me by putting it into the IV. They turned on the oxygen and I
was out like a light in about 2 seconds. I didn't feel or know
anything from then on. They had kept me sedated for 2 minutes
then they they administered the shock into the electrodes. Then they
were going to bring me out of this after about 3 minutes. If they
didn't get the results they wanted then they would do it again.

When I woke up after being unconscious for the full 5 minutes,
the doctor came over and told me, "It's a success." I was a pretty
happy, droggy guy. He told me that if I came back in 2 months and
took my Coumadin during that time and was still Ok, then I would
not have to take any Coumadin anymore. They next gave me another
EKG test and let me go home.

If you have this done to you and you are a male with hair on your
chest, I would recommend that you shave the hair off of you chest
before having all of this done to you. When they pulled of the
electrode in the front, it transplanted a great deal of my hair.
I feel pretty good after all of this. It appears to me that they
did burn me a little bit on my chest but then nobody is perfect.
I woke up the next morning feeling that I had been electrocuted but
then I guess that what happened. I'm glad to be a alive.

So the moral of this story is, don't go fishing in the Chemtrails.

John Winston. john...@mlod.com

Mirage Zero

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Mar 11, 2001, 11:44:32 AM3/11/01
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John, I'm glad you are ok. I don't think chemtrails did it though.

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Since none can solve Thee nor Thy ways;
And all Thy works beyond us tower,
Sublime as on the first of days.
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Robert ASF.

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Mar 11, 2001, 1:06:34 PM3/11/01
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On Sun, 11 Mar, John F. Winston <john...@mlode.com> wrote:

snip

John i hope you recover fully.

Just Thought I Should Mention It

Orange Roughy

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Mar 12, 2001, 8:28:28 AM3/12/01
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:44:32 -0600, "Mirage Zero" <m1rag...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>John, I'm glad you are ok. I don't think chemtrails did it though.

John is pulling everyone's leg. He was never sick. He has no heart.

Niles SanDebora

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Mar 12, 2001, 8:57:48 AM3/12/01
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John is an entity unto himself. He's incapable of pulling anyone's leg, does
not have your perception of illness, and doesn't need a heart to have life.
As for what he has to say, it all comes out in the wash. John doesn't lie.
What others refute is the lie. How do I know? He's an honest seeker. Be
well, John.
"Orange Roughy" <x@x.x> wrote in message
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Orange Roughy

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Mar 12, 2001, 9:26:06 AM3/12/01
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:57:48 -0500, "Niles SanDebora" <dic...@prodigy.net>
wrote:

>John is an entity unto himself. He's incapable of pulling anyone's leg, does
>not have your perception of illness, and doesn't need a heart to have life.

John's dead, eh? I thought so.

Niles SanDebora

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Mar 12, 2001, 9:39:34 AM3/12/01
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John will never know death. But, I'm getting the sense that you are of the
living dead. And, just in case you think I am standing up for John and what
he posts, not true at all. I just happen to know that he is honest and seeks
the truth, even though I do not know him, personally. I don't dislike or
like him per se, but I can recognize one who has continuous life. So, no,
John is not dead, at least not in anyway you might determine it. Orange
Roughly is an appropriate name for you. With more insight and understanding,
you could possibly one day simply call yourself Orange. Good luck with your
journey with no need to reply to me. I have enough followers on this NG
already, most of whom are much more lacking in sight than you could even
manage to lack. I was just signing off for this AM, since I have the unusual
need to perform some tasks and duties and thought commenting on someone new
would be nice for a change of pace.

"Orange Roughy" <x@x.x> wrote in message
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Orange Roughy

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Mar 12, 2001, 9:44:11 PM3/12/01
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:39:34 -0500, "Niles SanDebora" <dic...@prodigy.net>
wrote:

>John will never know death. But, I'm getting the sense that you are of the
>living dead.

You are so knowledgeable about such things, I'm sure you're right. After
all, we are all the living dead. Except in your case, you're going to live
forever as the new Christ. Right, dillies? After all you are the only
person on Earth who claims to have met God.

> And, just in case you think I am standing up for John and what
>he posts, not true at all. I just happen to know that he is honest and seeks
>the truth, even though I do not know him, personally. I don't dislike or
>like him per se, but I can recognize one who has continuous life.

Which position will John play on your 'team'? He's a wonderful person, even
though he doesn't need a heart to live. I suppose that's like meeting God,
eh, dillies?

> So, no,
>John is not dead, at least not in anyway you might determine it.

John lives in the anals of Usenet.

> Orange
>Roughly is an appropriate name for you.

It's a delicious fish.

> With more insight and understanding,
>you could possibly one day simply call yourself Orange.

Oh, I can *hardly* wait.

> Good luck with your
>journey with no need to reply to me.

Well, I'm in such awe of your reverence, wit, charm, intelligence and
general over all rationality, that I can't help myself -- it's like I'm
compelled to follow you, where ever you go, I'll be there, dillies. Really,
you're mesmerizing.

>I have enough followers on this NG
>already, most of whom are much more lacking in sight than you could even
>manage to lack.

Well, I'm wiling to learn from The Master of Usenet Art, your flowing words
capture my heart, spark my imagination and make me horny.

>I was just signing off for this AM, since I have the unusual
>need to perform some tasks and duties and thought commenting on someone new
>would be nice for a change of pace.

Let's talk about you, okay? You're my favorite subject.

jeanibean

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Mar 12, 2001, 10:27:23 PM3/12/01
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"Orange Roughy" <x@x.x> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:39:34 -0500, "Niles SanDebora" <dic...@prodigy.net>
> wrote:

<snip argument>

> John lives in the anals of Usenet.

Erm, just asking, you understand, but were you trying for annals? Of
course, I like it this way too!

jeanibean

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immediately after intercourse.
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