Windows 8
HVAC
Budikka666
> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
The world won't end in 2012, but Windows 8 will sure make it seem like
it did... or make people wish it had!
Budikka
Dr P
<c6b36b19-ca71-4a11...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net> writes
Just like Vistashite did, LOL!
dr p
AZ Nomad
Nah. It'll just mean tossing out everything you own both hardware and
software, like every microsoft major release since their company's
incorporation.
It'll be shoved onto new computers in the stores and make systems
faster than the fastest super computer of the 80's run like
an IBM PC-XT.
vtcapo
> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
Bite the bullet and buy a Mac...
RT
BradGuth
Or at least stick with XP, and don't bother to download any 3D
interactive crap.
~ BD
Puck Greenman
One of these days, I'm going to get in first. (:-)
HVAC
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2f028f24-1c83-48e0...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 25, 11:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
~~Bite the bullet and buy a Mac...
LOL. Only a retard would own a Mac.
MarkA
Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
--
MarkA
Keeper of the Butter Dish of Balshazar
Enkidu
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:20:07 -0800, vtcapo wrote:
>
>> On Nov 25, 11:05�am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>>
>> Bite the bullet and buy a Mac...
>>
>> RT
>
> Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
Works well for me . . . I have two desktops and three netbooks running
Ubuntu.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"
--Denis Diderot
*_//!!_//!!*
> In message
> <c6b36b19-ca71-4a11-b44a-d017925cb...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> writes
>
> >On Nov 25, 10:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>
> >The world won't end in 2012, but Windows 8 will sure make it seem like
> >it did... or make people wish it had!
>
> Just like Vistashite did, LOL!
>
> dr p
SUCKER! Serves you *Right*, EVIL SH*T!
Dr P
<024d8372-6c37-4073...@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
*_//!!_//!!* <har...@googlemail.com> writes
wrong, as ever.
i don't use vistashite, you nerd.
LOL!
--
dr p
vtcapo
(H)ead (V)oid of (A)ny (C)ommon sense
You ARE one dumb ass. Once you go Mac you never go back..... and it's
not because you shelled out all that money and you're stuck. It's the
quality of the units and the reliability of the OS. Only fools like
you would make a statement like that.
RT
PS Why don't you admit you're just too cheap to shell out the extra
bucks for superior quality.
Jimbo
I'm running Windows 7 now, and have been for about two weeks, and so
far it's been very stable. I never tried Vista, but XP was very
stable, I won't switch at this point to mac, more because I'm a
developer and an too old to want to learn a new OS, and I've seen the
developer side of mac and frankly, I wasn't impressed. Mac's version
of office doesn't have near the functionality, or even an equivalent
to the MS Access Database. I'm sure that Mac works well for many
people, just not my cup-o-joe.
Nightcrawler
"MarkA" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:pan.2009.11.25...@nowhere.com...
> Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
Just make sure to use GRUB instead of LILO if you are doing a dual boot. LILO
likes to eat Windows. :)
Nightcrawler
MAC crash a few days ago...funny as hell.
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2ad7b23d-0c3b-4c2d...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
Nightcrawler
"Jimbo" <ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:40008ee7-4113-4d32...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Hagar
>
>> On Nov 25, 11:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>>
>> Bite the bullet and buy a Mac...
>>
>> RT
>
> Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
>
Would not really work for vtcrappo, since it would involves reading
an instruction manual ... he claims to be a math teacher and as such
he never done learned how to decipher them thar letters too well.
vtcapo
HVAC, Hagar and all you Microsoft buffs, how many times have you been
fucked over by a virus? Bawhahahahahahahahaha........
RT
PS I guess not enough..... yet.
Mike Painter
Apple has been selling sizzle since day one.
The Apple II "superior" drives cost a hundred dollars or more than the other
drives of the day.
They had cheap plastic interiors and lacked much of the electronics the
cheaper drive did.
Since the sectoring was done in software it made them slower and made Apple
richer.
Mike Painter
Apple has been selling sizzle since day one.
HVAC
>
> LOL. Only a retard would own a Mac.
(H)ead (V)oid of (A)ny (C)ommon sense
You ARE one dumb ass. Once you go Mac you never go back..... and it's
not because you shelled out all that money and you're stuck. It's the
quality of the units and the reliability of the OS. Only fools like
you would make a statement like that.
RT
PS Why don't you admit you're just too cheap to shell out the extra
bucks for superior quality.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I build all my own computers and that of my kids and friends.
Apple shit is for those who are afraid to open the box.
OH! That's right. I almost forgot that YOU are a coward.
Happy Thanksgiving!
HVAC
HVAC, Hagar and all you Microsoft buffs, how many times have you been
fucked over by a virus? Bawhahahahahahahahaha........
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've NEVER been affected by a virus.
I like to WRITE viruses and send them to Twonky.
Hahahahaaha! I've been living on his system for years.
--
"I don't have mental health issues." -Twonky
MarkA
You say that like it's a bad thing.
MarkA
>
> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f3619a31-ec55-4cd7...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> HVAC, Hagar and all you Microsoft buffs, how many times have you been
> fucked over by a virus? Bawhahahahahahahahaha........
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I've NEVER been affected by a virus.
>
> I like to WRITE viruses and send them to Twonky.
>
>
> Hahahahaaha! I've been living on his system for years.
There are anti-virus programs written for Linux. They are designed to
block propagation of Windows viruses on a network that includes Windows
computers.
MarkA
> MarkA wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:20:07 -0800, vtcapo wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 25, 11:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>>>
>>> Bite the bullet and buy a Mac...
>>>
>>> RT
>>
>> Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
>
> Works well for me . . . I have two desktops and three netbooks running
> Ubuntu.
Don't you miss the crashes, spyware, and malware? That's half the
computing experience for Windows! And all to avoid having to learn how to
use file permissions correctly.
MarkA
If you're running Win7, you ARE running Vista, just with a shiny new
package. MS is good at that.
Hagar
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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********************************
Unlike hapless morons like you, I have been building my own
machines since the early 90s, when we got the parts at swap
meets. I contracted one virus, at a Russian site offering
program crack codes, back in the 98, but quickly eradicated
it (or as Obama would say "swiftly and decisively").
With a regimen of proper PC maintenance (does require
reading - thus would not apply to you), I have not had any
problems at all.
vtcapo
Well good for you. After losing a Laptop and paying the Nerd Squad, I
think that's what Best Buy calls them to fix it...twice, it took a
fatal crash. I then started looking around for a monster PC machine
and connected with a big time gamer who told me if you game or search
the net, no matter what PC you have or what virus program you have
installed you will eventually get a virus. The hackers are always one
step ahead of you. Whether the virus is fatal or not depends. I asked
him what do you do to remedy this. He said since gamers are so
malicious he has a 2nd computer just as a buffer to filter all his
data. Fuck that .... I went over to Mac after that bit of info and I
never looked back.
RT
Enkidu
Bug or feature?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"As people become more intelligent they care less for preaches and more for teachers"
- Robert G. Ingersoll
Enkidu
Apple II disk drives were hard sectored, not soft sectored.
Enkidu
> Well good for you. After losing a Laptop and paying the Nerd Squad, I
> think that's what Best Buy calls them to fix it...twice, it took a
> fatal crash.
Anyone who calls Geek Squad to fix their computer is in trouble. Such a
person is incopetent to maintain a computer, and calls for incompetent
help.
As for the "fatal crash", what the hell's that? You can't wipe a hard
drive and re-install an operating system? Can you work a toaster oven,
or do you need help with that too?
Enkidu
> I build all my own computers and that of my kids and friends.
>
> Apple shit is for those who are afraid to open the box.
>
> OH! That's right. I almost forgot that YOU are a coward.
Got legal copies of Windows on all those machines?
Enkidu
I never really had a problem with malware, but that's because I had lots
of software running in the background. Every AV update made it run
slower. And every new version of windows requires replacing all older
hardware. I decided to get off the Windows/Dell/Norton treadmill.
Two weeks with Ubuntu 7.10 was all it took, and it's been getting better
with every version.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"As people become more intelligent they care less for preaches and more for teachers"
- Robert G. Ingersoll
MarkA
> MarkA wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:59:15 +0000, Enkidu wrote:
>>
>>> MarkA wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:20:07 -0800, vtcapo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 25, 11:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>>>>>
>>>>> Bite the bullet and buy a Mac...
>>>>>
>>>>> RT
>>>>
>>>> Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> Works well for me . . . I have two desktops and three netbooks running
>>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> Don't you miss the crashes, spyware, and malware? That's half the
>> computing experience for Windows! And all to avoid having to learn how to
>> use file permissions correctly.
>
> I never really had a problem with malware, but that's because I had lots
> of software running in the background. Every AV update made it run
> slower. And every new version of windows requires replacing all older
> hardware. I decided to get off the Windows/Dell/Norton treadmill.
>
> Two weeks with Ubuntu 7.10 was all it took, and it's been getting better
> with every version.
Not to pull rank or anything, but I got my feet wet with RedHat 4.2. That
was when you had to edit your XFree86 config file by hand.
Enkidu
I used Unix in the early 80s, but when I bought my own computers back
then, it was Apple II or TRS-80. Neither ran Unix, and Linus hadn't
inventer Linux yet, so I was led astray.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence."
-- Abu Ala Al-Ma'arri
vtcapo
I have done my fair share of building PC’s. I have more important
things to do than erase
my hard drive and start all over again, back ups or not.
Being an ordained Minister I bet you do a lot of praying using
Microsoft.
Bawhahahahahahahahah………….
RT
Enkidu
> On Nov 26, 8:54 pm, Enkidu <enk...@nogodhere.net> wrote:
>> vtcapo wrote:
>> > Well good for you. After losing a Laptop and paying the Nerd Squad, I
>> > think that's what Best Buy calls them to fix it...twice, it took a
>> > fatal crash.
>>
>> Anyone who calls Geek Squad to fix their computer is in trouble. Such a
>> person is incopetent to maintain a computer, and calls for incompetent
>> help.
>>
>> As for the "fatal crash", what the hell's that? You can't wipe a hard
>> drive and re-install an operating system? Can you work a toaster oven,
>> or do you need help with that too?
>>
>> --
>> Enkidu AA#2165
>> EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
>> ULC, Modesto, CA
>>
>> "As people become more intelligent they care less for preaches and more for teachers"
>> - Robert G. Ingersoll
>
> I have done my fair share of building PC’s. I have more important
> things to do than erase
> my hard drive and start all over again, back ups or not.
So you throw out your PC when you have a problem rather than re-install
the OS? How did the OS get on the computer you built in the first place
if you have better things to do than install it? And how much trouble is
it, anyway? Even Windows installs mostly on its own.
> Being an ordained Minister I bet you do a lot of praying using
> Microsoft.
Well, I don't actually own a computer that runs Windows or any othe
Microsoft product. I have a desktop I share with my kids running Linux,
a netbook I use myself that runs Linux, my wife's computer runs Linux,
and my 14 year old daughter's netbook runs Linux. My employer provides
me with a MacBook running OS X.
> Bawhahahahahahahahah………….
>
> RT
If it sucks to be wrong, it must really suck to be you.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies."
- Thomas Jefferson
MarkA
As soon as you learn that Windows began as a port of CP/M, a lot of things
start to make sense. My first computer was a Heathkit H8, with 4K of
static RAM! It was a huge leap forward when I could afford to add a
cassette interface. Floppy disk came *much* later.
vtcapo
Sucks to be wrong? You just proved my point. You don’t run
Windows and your boss has enough smarts to provide you with a
Mac. Maybe I didn’t make it clear enough for you. Some of us
want reliability and don’t need the constant failures Windows is
notorious for…..
Enkidu, are your brothers Enki and Enlil and your daddy Anu? Or
does the AA#2165 refer to Alcoholics Anonymous member #2165?
Drinking again?
RT
PS You’re employed? Now I know there is hope for everyone……
Puck Greenman
Mm.
I have got a lap top, running Ubuntu, but I can only get on line using hard wiring to my
router/modem. All attempts at wireless networking end in failure.
I wanted to play war driving.
I did get it working one evening, but when I switched it on the following day, the
wireless no longer worked.
...So it must be a year since I have even switched it on.
Besides, Photoshop, will not run in Ubuntu.
Perhaps when Netgear, Belkin, 3com, whoever, get it together with Linux, to produce
universal Linux drivers, I'll have another go.
Even stuff d/loaded as source code doesn't compile(wrong syntax usually, and has to be
seriously edited, or even rewritten, before it can be used.
...And I'm no script kiddy...
...Or even script Grand Daddy, for that matter.
Ubuntu has overcome the basic installation difficulties for us non geeks, but we still
need the soft ware manufacturers to recognise the market.
The sooner they do, the sooner Linux, will become a serious rival to M$.
As far as Viruses go, I have had three serious attacks.
The first was when I first changed from DOS, and went on line with windows 3.11.
I had a massive 50Meg drive, and it wiped the boot sector.
The second was a Linux box, Red Hat 1.3, or something like that, and the virus was on a
disk, from a computer fair.
The third was in a beta version XP, before I got a version with all the spies and
inhibitors switched off.
I had to turn off most of my security in order to run a P2P network, that half a dozen of
us were working on.
It didn't work too well, too slow 0n a 28.8 modem, and by the time we got broad band out
here, there was much better software, shareware and commercial, available.
I have great hopes for Linux, but until the aps I use are compiled for it, or until I can
get the source code, that will not take longer to edit than the original took to write, I
guess I will have to stay with M$, for most of my computing.
FreeThink
I got my feet wet with an abacus and a sun dial. My first expansion
pack had an additional 20 beads and two rods. ;-) So There!
FreeThink
The main reason the PC had more malware is due to the fact that the
internet is built on Windows servers and the majority of computers are
PC's. Macs are too few and have nothing worth stealing in them except
artist and musicians stuff.
Enkidu
> The main reason the PC had more malware is due to the fact that the
> internet is built on Windows servers . . .
[BZZZZT]
Sorry, that's just false. Most servers run Linux.
"Forty percent of servers run Windows, 60 percent run Linux,"
he said. "How are we doing? Forty is less than 60, so I don't
like it. We have some work to do."
Steve Balmert September 26, 2008
Google runs on Linux. Hell, even http://www.linuxsucks.org runs on
Linux!
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government."
- Thomas Jefferson
vtcapo
That's what I use my main Mac primarily for.... Home music studio.
RT
Mike Painter
> HVAC wrote:
>
>> I build all my own computers and that of my kids and friends.
>>
>> Apple shit is for those who are afraid to open the box.
>>
>> OH! That's right. I almost forgot that YOU are a coward.
>
> Got legal copies of Windows on all those machines?
It's intereresting to see teh price of Windows 2000 going up these days.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with it being teh last version that could use
a generic key.
I broke off a friendship with a family, mainly becasue of the way he talked
to his wife and kids, but he was a good christian. He came with zippered
study bible, small groups and took the man child camping and the girl child
shopping once a year. (she wanted to go camping)
Bought three motorcycles for the family so theycould ride together. (The
wife wanted a canoe or at least to be taken on a canoe ride.)
Anyway. I never could convince him that pirating software was wrong. I guess
one of the newer bibles has "Thou shalt not steal - unless you can't get
caught" in it.
Mike Painter
> HVAC, Hagar and all you Microsoft buffs, how many times have you been
> fucked over by a virus? Bawhahahahahahahahaha........
>
breaches found in the Mac OS as in Windows.
They are not exploited because nobody cares. If I write a bug that affects
10% of the Windows world I hit more computers than if my virus hit *all* the
Macs in the world.
It was not always like this. When the Mac was new and people were interested
in that postcard size graphics window, we had to redo the software on a
weekly basis as the college kids would drop by and stick a desk in the demo
units.
HVAC
>That's what I use my main Mac primarily for.... Home music studio.
I'm surprised a tard like you can even coax music out of the damm thing.
Who set it up for you?
--
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but
they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
MarkA
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:07:21 -0800, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"MarkA" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>news:pan.2009.11.25...@nowhere.com...
>>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:20:07 -0800, vtcapo wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 25, 11:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>>>>
>>>> Bite the bullet and buy a Mac...
>>>>
>>>> RT
>>>
>>> Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
>>>
>>
>>Would not really work for vtcrappo, since it would involves reading
>>an instruction manual ... he claims to be a math teacher and as such
>>he never done learned how to decipher them thar letters too well.
>>
>
> Mm.
>
> I have got a lap top, running Ubuntu, but I can only get on line using hard wiring to my
> router/modem. All attempts at wireless networking end in failure.
>
> I wanted to play war driving.
>
> I did get it working one evening, but when I switched it on the following day, the
> wireless no longer worked.
>
> ...So it must be a year since I have even switched it on.
My laptop, an Acer, came with a wireless card based on the Atheros
chipset. After enduring several years of intermittent problems connecting
to my wireless hub, somebody on a newsgroup recommended replacing the
wireless card for one that is better supported. I bought an Intel
wireless card on ebay for $10, it took about 5 minutes to open a panel on
the bottom of the laptop to swap them, and have never had a problem since.
I didn't even have to change any software. It "just worked."
>
> Besides, Photoshop, will not run in Ubuntu.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>
> Perhaps when Netgear, Belkin, 3com, whoever, get it together with Linux, to produce
> universal Linux drivers, I'll have another go.
Since the rise of Ubuntu, it is rare for hardware manufacturers these days
to ignore the Linux community. There are still some hardware items that
don't work well with Linux, but it is easy to find alternatives that do.
>
> Even stuff d/loaded as source code doesn't compile(wrong syntax
> usually, and has to be seriously edited, or even rewritten, before it
> can be used.
That usually means you don't have some package that's needed for the
compile. I have found that Googling the error message will invariably
yield a solution.
>
> ...And I'm no script kiddy...
>
> ...Or even script Grand Daddy, for that matter.
>
>
> Ubuntu has overcome the basic installation difficulties for us non
> geeks, but we still need the soft ware manufacturers to recognise the
> market.
>
> The sooner they do, the sooner Linux, will become a serious rival to M$.
>
Linux isn't trying to be a rival to M$ on the desktop. It already
dominates on servers and embedded systems (have you seen the new
Android smart phones? They are sweet!) As long as there are people who
want their computers to "just work", M$ will have a market. As will the
people who write anti-virus programs.
>
> As far as Viruses go, I have had three serious attacks.
>
> The first was when I first changed from DOS, and went on line with
> windows 3.11.
>
> I had a massive 50Meg drive, and it wiped the boot sector.
>
> The second was a Linux box, Red Hat 1.3, or something like that, and the
> virus was on a disk, from a computer fair.
>
> The third was in a beta version XP, before I got a version with all the
> spies and inhibitors switched off.
> I had to turn off most of my security in order to run a P2P network,
> that half a dozen of us were working on.
>
> It didn't work too well, too slow 0n a 28.8 modem, and by the time we
> got broad band out here, there was much better software, shareware and
> commercial, available.
>
> I have great hopes for Linux, but until the aps I use are compiled for
> it, or until I can get the source code, that will not take longer to
> edit than the original took to write, I guess I will have to stay with
> M$, for most of my computing.
If you have even attempted to compile from source, you are probably savvy
enough to enjoy Linux in 2009.
MarkA
Actually, the majority of computers *running* the Internet use Linux.
However, most of the computers *connecting to* the Internet run Windows,
and are operated by people who have no idea how to use a computer.
Windows is a security nightmare because it is designed to be easy for
newbies to use, and, as we all know, security and ease of use is inversely
related to security from malware. It was a huge leap forward in Windows
security when they changed the default setting for running email
attachments to 'no'.
MarkA
HA! I remember when thumbs were so underdeveloped that we could only
count to 8! 9 if we used our tails!
Double-A
Windows was designed to allow corporate America to control your
computer, not you. But the result has often been to allow the hackers
and Russian Mafia to control your computer.
Double-A
Hagar
Drinking again?
RT
PS You�re employed? Now I know there is hope for everyone��
***********************************
Bwahahahahahhhh .... the pot calling the kettle "noir" ...
vtcapo
You're right ...the pot is calling. See ya..
RT
vtcapo
I'm full of surprises...
RT
PS " Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything,
but
they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs". Is that
what
you did to your mother? Just like Richard Widmark... What was the
name of
that movie? He had a smile on his face and a crazy laugh......
Puck Greenman
That has got to be worth investigation too.
Ten or twelve quid won't break me.
>
>>
>> Besides, Photoshop, will not run in Ubuntu.
>
>You say that like it's a bad thing.
I do a lot of photography, but have no artistic talent. However, the advent of digital
cameras, and Photoshop CS3, have allowed me, to "compose", the picture I *thought* I was
taking in the first place, and a damn sight faster than I ever could in the dark room.
(:-).
>
>>
>> Perhaps when Netgear, Belkin, 3com, whoever, get it together with Linux, to produce
>> universal Linux drivers, I'll have another go.
>
>Since the rise of Ubuntu, it is rare for hardware manufacturers these days
>to ignore the Linux community. There are still some hardware items that
>don't work well with Linux, but it is easy to find alternatives that do.
Mostly, what I want is a wireless dongle to go on the roof of the car.
Most of it, I can build, the antenna, etc.
In fact, most of it is built, and just awaiting a suitable, Ubuntu friendly, dongle.
>
>>
>> Even stuff d/loaded as source code doesn't compile(wrong syntax
>> usually, and has to be seriously edited, or even rewritten, before it
>> can be used.
>
>That usually means you don't have some package that's needed for the
>compile. I have found that Googling the error message will invariably
>yield a solution.
That sounds about right, my compiler is about twenty years old, and only really recognises
source, written specifically for it.
Somebody gave me a copy of Borland 5.5, but no manuals. I suppose if I were to shift my
arse, I could find them on line somewhere.
On the occasions that I have tried to find the info, I have gone direct to the
programmer's web site, from whence I invariably get the runaround and end up on some site
selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive chocolate.
>
>>
>> ...And I'm no script kiddy...
>>
>> ...Or even script Grand Daddy, for that matter.
>>
>>
>> Ubuntu has overcome the basic installation difficulties for us non
>> geeks, but we still need the soft ware manufacturers to recognise the
>> market.
>>
>> The sooner they do, the sooner Linux, will become a serious rival to M$.
>>
>
>Linux isn't trying to be a rival to M$ on the desktop. It already
>dominates on servers and embedded systems (have you seen the new
>Android smart phones? They are sweet!) As long as there are people who
>want their computers to "just work", M$ will have a market. As will the
>people who write anti-virus programs.
>
>>
>> As far as Viruses go, I have had three serious attacks.
>>
>> The first was when I first changed from DOS, and went on line with
>> windows 3.11.
>>
>> I had a massive 50Meg drive, and it wiped the boot sector.
>>
>> The second was a Linux box, Red Hat 1.3, or something like that, and the
>> virus was on a disk, from a computer fair.
That one deleted the drive while showing a curser running around the screen.
>>
>> The third was in a beta version XP, before I got a version with all the
>> spies and inhibitors switched off.
>> I had to turn off most of my security in order to run a P2P network,
>> that half a dozen of us were working on.
Infected us all, and took a low level format, and a bios reset, to get rid of it.
>>
>> It didn't work too well, too slow 0n a 28.8 modem, and by the time we
>> got broad band out here, there was much better software, shareware and
>> commercial, available.
>>
>> I have great hopes for Linux, but until the aps I use are compiled for
>> it, or until I can get the source code, that will not take longer to
>> edit than the original took to write, I guess I will have to stay with
>> M$, for most of my computing.
>
>If you have even attempted to compile from source, you are probably savvy
>enough to enjoy Linux in 2009.
I'll have to have another look at it soon.
Perhaps see what I can blag the descendants out of, for christmas. >:->>
Enkidu
> That has got to be worth investigation too.
>
> Ten or twelve quid won't break me.
>
And if it doesn't work for you, I'll buy it from you!
--
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church, and the private schools, supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the church and the state forever separated."
- Ulysses S. Grant
Tak AA#344
<4081a4b6-f610-4a77...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
Oh yes, "Vista" 7 the reason I now run Snow Leopard.
HVAC
"Puck Greenman" <dubh_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bis0h5pv3emlp82nn...@4ax.com...
>
> Somebody gave me a copy of Borland 5.5, but no manuals. I suppose if I
> were to shift my
> arse, I could find them on line somewhere.
>
> On the occasions that I have tried to find the info, I have gone direct to
> the
> programmer's web site, from whence I invariably get the runaround and end
> up on some site
> selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive chocolate.
Link?
MarkA
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:21:41 -0500, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Besides, Photoshop, will not run in Ubuntu.
>>
>>You say that like it's a bad thing.
>
> I do a lot of photography, but have no artistic talent. However, the advent of digital
> cameras, and Photoshop CS3, have allowed me, to "compose", the picture I *thought* I was
> taking in the first place, and a damn sight faster than I ever could in the dark room.
> (:-).
>
My dad did a lot of photography when I was growing up. It is pretty
amazing how digital imaging has made the entire darkroom obsolete.
If you are doing a lot of digital photography, it would definitely be
worth your while to learn the ins and outs of "gimp". It is available for
both Windows and Linux. The downside of gimp: to use it well, you have to
learn a little about how digital images are actually created and stored on
a computer. Definitely overkill for the average Joe who
just wants to get rid of red-eye. The upside of gimp: once you know how
to use it, it can do *anything*.
MarkA
It seems that a huge amount of the development effort in Vista went into
making it hard to make digital copies of high-def DVDs. I can understand
why the entertainment industry execs would be reluctant to allow BluRay
disks to be playable on a PC without strong copy protection, but expecting
people to install what is essentially a massively over-engineered DRM
system on their computers as the Operating System is a bit much. Only
inertia keeps most people doing it.
Nightcrawler
"FreeThink" <zeno7...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:8ecb508c-ef2e-4a0e...@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>The main reason the PC had more malware is due to the fact that the
>internet is built on Windows servers and the majority of computers are
>PC's. Macs are too few and have nothing worth stealing in them except
>artist and musicians stuff.
The reason PC's have more malware is that there are more of them, and those
that get their jollies off of malicious code, or want to tap the largest group of
people before detection, are going to code for Windows.
Unix/Linux, or Mac's, are just as susceptible to attack as a Windows box, it
just takes a different approach.
Mac's are the easiest since most people that use Mac's are computer idiots.
I know people, one an instructor and programming engineer who helped code
the modern Unix kernel, who can slam any Unix system given the proper
circumstances. As with any OS, the protection is as good as the user operating
the machine.
That being said, Microcrap is still Microcrap. The only "good" thing about their
OS is the larger software base, larger hardware base, and the user interface. Most
anything you see on a *ix box, or a Mac, pretty much sucks. Ubuntu has made
a great effort, but they still need to step firmly away from the mid 90's style of
windowing (at least control wise-that's mainly a Linux thing, anyway).
Nightcrawler
"Enkidu" <enk...@nogodhere.net> wrote in message news:20091127014736...@nogodhere.net...
> Bug or feature?
Hah! That depends on perspective.
Enkidu
> I know people, one an instructor and programming engineer who helped code
> the modern Unix kernel, who can slam any Unix system given the proper
> circumstances.
Yeah? What circumstances? A seven year old unpatched system? Or a newly
updated system? Talk is cheap, and Linux systems just don't get
corrupted as often.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires."
-Susan B. Anthony
Puck Greenman
To what?
Puck Greenman
>Puck Greenman wrote:
>
>> That has got to be worth investigation too.
>>
>> Ten or twelve quid won't break me.
>>
>
>And if it doesn't work for you, I'll buy it from you!
>
Most of the electronics I buy, which does not end up in it's intended employment, tends to
find it's way into something I am messing with, so it is rarely wasted; But thanks for
the offer.
Puck Greenman
>On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:36:47 +0000, Puck Greenman wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:21:41 -0500, MarkA <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Besides, Photoshop, will not run in Ubuntu.
>>>
>>>You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>
>> I do a lot of photography, but have no artistic talent. However, the advent of digital
>> cameras, and Photoshop CS3, have allowed me, to "compose", the picture I *thought* I was
>> taking in the first place, and a damn sight faster than I ever could in the dark room.
>> (:-).
>>
>
>My dad did a lot of photography when I was growing up. It is pretty
>amazing how digital imaging has made the entire darkroom obsolete.
>
>If you are doing a lot of digital photography, it would definitely be
>worth your while to learn the ins and outs of "gimp". It is available for
>both Windows and Linux. The downside of gimp: to use it well, you have to
>learn a little about how digital images are actually created and stored on
>a computer. Definitely overkill for the average Joe who
>just wants to get rid of red-eye.
Red Eye is the least of my worries.
In the studio (a blue background and some lights, all dragged into the kitchen), I don't
have many problems.
I can create a "technically" perfect picture, it just lacks everything that makes you want
to hang it where anyone can see it.
In the field, it is another kettle of fish; Don't matter a tinkers cuss what I point at,
it aint what is in the memory when I get it into the computer.
So I just set the camera to repeat, and bracket, and hold the button down, for jpegs, or
fill six or seven memory cards, with bracketed RAW pictures, and hope that between them,
and CS3, I cam make an acceptable picture or background.
>The upside of gimp: once you know how
>to use it, it can do *anything*.
While replying to you, I have d/loaded GIMP, or it's installer, and the instruction
manual, site.
That can go in the lap top, and see how I progress.
Nightcrawler
"Enkidu" <enk...@nogodhere.net> wrote in message news:20091128203824...@nogodhere.net...
>
> Yeah? What circumstances?
I stated that "he" could. Presented with such questions he is not very specific, nor should he
be.
Tak A#344
> The main reason the PC had more malware is due to the fact that the
> internet is built on Windows servers
Um. No, its not.
Tak #344
Tak A#344
> Mac's are the easiest since most people that use Mac's are computer idiots.
1997 called, it wants its argument back.
Tak A#344
Tak A#344
> If you read the literature you will find that there are as many security
> breaches found in the Mac OS as in Windows.
Which literature? Microsoft's? OS 9 Had a fraction of the user base
of OS X but OS 9 was a virus whore. There are still virtually no OS X
viruses, exploits for people dumb enough to give their user names and
passowrds to apps downloaded from free porn sites of course, but NO OS
can save those people.
Four Macs, Three years, still waiting for that virus. Caught a browser
bug once, fixed it in ten minutes. Switched to Firefox.
Windows is just as safe? RIGHT. Sure it is. Tell it to the Marines,
the Army won't buy it.
Windows from 3.11 dos from 3, XP was the end for me. I went till I saw
Vista coming, took one look at it and what it meant, and said no. Three
years of happy Mac/Linux use, and there isn't enough money for me to pay
for the mess implicit in a non Linux/Unix system. If Windows was my only
option I wouldn't own a computer anymore.
Tak A#344
HVAC
>>>
>>> On the occasions that I have tried to find the info, I have gone direct
>>> to
>>> the
>>> programmer's web site, from whence I invariably get the runaround and
>>> end
>>> up on some site
>>> selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive chocolate.
>>
>>
>>Link?
>>
> To what?
To the place selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive chocolate.
--
Build a fire for a man, he's warm for a day.
*Set* a man on fire, he's warm for the rest of his life.
vtcapo
wrote:
You are absolutely right. I've been running a MacPro now for over 3
years. Never once had a virus. The only time I had a problem was when
I tried to run Windows along side of OSX ( Boot Camp) and that totally
corrupted my system and Apple had to restore everything at the
dealer.
The only idiots out there (Nightcrawler, HVAC) are those too cheap to
switch over from MS. Just bought a Mac Mini to use as my every day
computer, a MacPro laptop when I travel and have my original MacPro
desktop running my home music studio exclusively. If a virus attacked
that computer I would be in deep shit considering the thousands of
dollars of music applications on it. Like I said, in three years
NEVER had a virus. Any MS die hards out there that can say that?
RT
_...@jeff_relf.seattle.invalid
Your ( Capo's ) obsession with viruses has been noted (and laughed at).
Look who doesn't give a shit ( me ), a Windows Vista user who surfs
all day long, every day, downloading whatever.
I've no firewall, no anti·virus nothing.
You toss money at a problem that I'll never have.
vtcapo
I tossed money at it by buying into Apple. A choice many have made and
have never looked back. It's like sex. You fuck around without a
condom and eventually you will catch something. I'm afraid your luck
will run out and it's just a matter of time......
RT
Nightcrawler
You are absolutely right. I've been running a MacPro now for over 3
years. Never once had a virus. The only time I had a problem was when
I tried to run Windows along side of OSX ( Boot Camp) and that totally
corrupted my system and Apple had to restore everything at the
dealer.
The only idiots out there (Nightcrawler, HVAC) are those too cheap to
switch over from MS. Just bought a Mac Mini to use as my every day
computer, a MacPro laptop when I travel and have my original MacPro
desktop running my home music studio exclusively. If a virus attacked
that computer I would be in deep shit considering the thousands of
dollars of music applications on it. Like I said, in three years
NEVER had a virus. Any MS die hards out there that can say that?
RT
*******************
vtcapo
> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:0ed3ff43-f0f9-4ab3...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
I guess Nightcrawler is lost for words and had to repeat everything I
said because he finally agrees....Bawhahahahaha...
RT
Nightcrawler
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:90bc7bf7-e6d9-49da...@l23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 29, 3:59 pm, "Nightcrawler" <Dirtyde...@dirtcheap.net> wrote:
> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:0ed3ff43-f0f9-4ab3...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> You are absolutely right. I've been running a MacPro now for over 3
> years. Never once had a virus. The only time I had a problem was when
> I tried to run Windows along side of OSX ( Boot Camp) and that totally
> corrupted my system and Apple had to restore everything at the
> dealer.
>
> The only idiots out there (Nightcrawler, HVAC) are those too cheap to
> switch over from MS. Just bought a Mac Mini to use as my every day
> computer, a MacPro laptop when I travel and have my original MacPro
> desktop running my home music studio exclusively. If a virus attacked
> that computer I would be in deep shit considering the thousands of
> dollars of music applications on it. Like I said, in three years
> NEVER had a virus. Any MS die hards out there that can say that?
>
> RT
*****************
There's that idiot quotient showing up. 24 years of computer use and I
have never been infected.
My current PC no longer has Ubuntu on it, but that does not mean that
I don't have Ubuntu, or that I don't have plans on using Ubuntu. My
current PC will stay a Winblows box. However, my new server and
media player will be based on Ubuntu.
I'm sure that there are other distro's of Linux that might have the ease
of install as Ubuntu, but why should I get something else? I gave up
my Red Hat distro, my SCO Unix Enterprise sets (two box sets) a
few years back. So, I'm not going to invest in procuring either of
those since I already have software that will do the task I ask of it.
As for Apple, and their products: They serve their purpose, and fill the
idiot nitch that you happen to occupy. Two of my three years of computer
science courses were on Apple computers. One year was on Unix shell
account work stations. All Microcrap usage was at home and did not
occur until around 1994, since I was using IBM DOS and Deskview
up until that point.
Mac's were cool when they first came out but lacked software support
and were one trick ponies that were not transferable. The current G3's
and G4's that I have, have thousands of dollars of software that are
stuck on them. I can still run my old DOS crap on Winblows.
Just a little FYI for your bong-loaded synapses to contemplate.
Enkidu
> . . . and Apple had to restore everything at the dealer.
Why would you need a dealer to reinstall an operating system? Assuming
your system came with the OS on CDs, that's all they're doining anyway.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."
-- H. L. Mencken
Tim McGaughy
> internet is built on Windows servers
That can be your little secret.
Puck Greenman
Try "characteristic".
It is what the dealer called it, when my new car kept jumping out of gear, on the
motorway.
Puck Greenman
>
>"Puck Greenman" <dubh_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:sbd3h5pgfbla4vq99...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On the occasions that I have tried to find the info, I have gone direct
>>>> to
>>>> the
>>>> programmer's web site, from whence I invariably get the runaround and
>>>> end
>>>> up on some site
>>>> selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive chocolate.
>>>
>>>
>>>Link?
>>>
>> To what?
>
>
>To the place selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive chocolate.
Oh, right.
I'll tag the next one that I end up in. (:-)
HVAC
You are absolutely right. I've been running a MacPro now for over 3
years. Never once had a virus.
My computer is NEVER off and I am a downloading whore.
I've never had a virus.... Ever. And I go back to 1988
fucking with computers. I have seen thing try to get in,
but my kung Fu is strong.
The only time I had a problem was when
I tried to run Windows along side of OSX ( Boot Camp) and that totally
corrupted my system and Apple had to restore everything at the
dealer.
BWAHAhahahahaha! There he is folks! Your average Mac user.
It's good that YOU stick with the tard's version of a computer.
Your Kung Fu is weak.
The only idiots out there (Nightcrawler, HVAC) are those too cheap to
switch over from MS. Just bought a Mac Mini to use as my every day
computer, a MacPro laptop when I travel and have my original MacPro
desktop running my home music studio exclusively. If a virus attacked
that computer I would be in deep shit considering the thousands of
dollars of music applications on it. Like I said, in three years
NEVER had a virus. Any MS die hards out there that can say that?
A noob like you really shouldn't be allowed to own a computer at ALL.
But, it's good you have the little boy's version..........
--
And god gave him a mighty frying pan and told him to go forth and smite thee
some noobs
Nightcrawler
"Puck Greenman" <dubh_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:dvt5h5ltuhhjs5fs0...@4ax.com...
> It is what the dealer called it, when my new car kept jumping out of gear, on the
> motorway.
LOL! Nice...
Nightcrawler
"Enkidu" <enk...@nogodhere.net> wrote in message news:20091129215351...@nogodhere.net...
> Nightcrawler wrote:
>
>> . . . and Apple had to restore everything at the dealer.
>
> Why would you need a dealer to reinstall an operating system? Assuming
> your system came with the OS on CDs, that's all they're doining anyway.
You quoted the wrong individual.
vtcapo
Your Kung Fu is weak, Bawahahahahahahahaaa.... I fixed more MS Dos
computers than you have ever worked on. I did it for the school
system. I know their strenghts, I know their weaknesses. MS is shit
and the only reason it is what it is is because they have a huge
software base and the're cheap. You are talking out of your ass.....
RT
Puck Greenman
That wasn't "exactly" the word I used, but close enough for polite company.
Nightcrawler
"vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:7ab71a79-4dde-4564...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
BradGuth
Apparently MS is their God, and MAC is the Devil.
~ BG
Nightcrawler
"BradGuth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0a5a60cd-b42d-4c4c...@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
vtcapo
That's right, but also homophobic.....
RT
MarkA
Hehehe....another victim to the OSS movement..... ;)
>
> That can go in the lap top, and see how I progress.
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
MarkA
>
> "Puck Greenman" <dubh_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sbd3h5pgfbla4vq99...@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> On the occasions that I have tried to find the info, I have gone
>>>> direct to
>>>> the
>>>> programmer's web site, from whence I invariably get the runaround and
>>>> end
>>>> up on some site
>>>> selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive chocolate.
>>>
>>>
>>>Link?
>>>
>> To what?
>
>
> To the place selling cheap erotic underwear and/or very expensive
> chocolate.
How about expensive erotic underwear (Victoria Secret) and cheap
chocolate? (Quickie-Mart)
*_//!!_//!!*
> "vtcapo" <vtc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
> HVAC, Hagar and all you Microsoft buffs, how many times have you been
> fucked over by a virus? Bawhahahahahahahahaha........
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I've NEVER been affected by a virus.
No of course not, you are the VIRUS, HVAC.
Btw, what was all that Coughing about then?
> I like to WRITE viruses and send them to Twonky.
With Aids...Swine Flu...and the likes in abundance,
*I* doubt he........needs you adding to his Anxieties.
> Hahahahaaha! I've been living on his system for
> years.
Don't you mean BUGGING him for years, Coward?
> --
> "I don't have mental health issues." -Twonky
If he/she/it did, *I* wouldn't be surprised. Having you,
HVAC, Dr P, & the Trillion likes on our backs ALL of
the TIME is enough to drive anyone insane.
Give it a Rest!
'Nough said.
*Hallelujah*
*Amen*
HVAC
"*_//!!_//!!*" <har...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:7b553fe5-42ee-41e0...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> I've NEVER been affected by a virus.
No of course not, you are the VIRUS, HVAC.
Btw, what was all that Coughing about then?
~~~
What on earth are you prattling on about NOW?
> I like to WRITE viruses and send them to Twonky.
With Aids...Swine Flu...and the likes in abundance,
*I* doubt he........needs you adding to his Anxieties.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As many times as Twonky has been fucked up
the ol' wazoo, his ass is like a stinky petrie dish
of disease and filth. It's probably the place that
aids began.
I heard that he swallowed so much semen that
he had to have cum gutters installed on his chin.
> Hahahahaaha! I've been living on his system for
> years.
Don't you mean BUGGING him for years, Coward?
~~~~~~~~~
No. I mean LIVING in his system.
He/she knows what I mean.
> "I don't have mental health issues." -Twonky
If he/she/it did, *I* wouldn't be surprised. Having you,
HVAC, Dr P, & the Trillion likes on our backs ALL of
the TIME is enough to drive anyone insane.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Well, for you, that's just a short trip around the block.
Booooooooooooooooooong !
*_//!!_//!!*
> "*_//!!_//!!*" <harp...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7b553fe5-42ee-41e0...@r24g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I've NEVER been affected by a virus.
>
> No of course not, you are the VIRUS, HVAC.
>
> Btw, what was all that Coughing about then?
> ~~~
>
> What on earth are you prattling on about NOW?
Why don't you check your posting records! You,
said it, not *I*.
<SNIPO>
'the rest of'
~HVAC's~
Budikka666
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:23:05 -0800 (PST), Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 25, 10:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>
> >The world won't end in 2012, but Windows 8 will sure make it seem like
> >it did... or make people wish it had!
>
> >Budikka
>
> One of these days, I'm going to get in first. (:-)
I know that feeling! Dopey Duke is posting his bizarre claims that
athiesm is on the way out because *alt.atheism*'s message rate is down
(so he claims), but from what I can see, a.a. is just as unruly and
amazing as it ever was!
Budikka
Budikka666
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:20:07 -0800, vtcapo wrote:
> > On Nov 25, 11:05 am, HVAC <mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>http://vista.blorge.com/2009/11/22/microsoft-eyeing-windows-8-in-2012/
>
>
> > RT
>
> Or, if you really want to be the one running your computer, Ubuntu.
Why should I buntu? Why don't you tell *them* to buntu? ; )
Budikka
Mike Painter
> HVAC, Hagar and all you Microsoft buffs, how many times have you been
> fucked over by a virus? Bawhahahahahahahahaha........
>
breaches found in the Mac OS as in Windows.
They are not exploited because nobody cares. If I write a bug that affects
10% of the Windows world I hit more computers than if my virus hit *all* the
Macs in the world.
It was not always like this. When the Mac was new and people were interested
in that postcard size graphics window, we had to redo the software on a
weekly basis as the college kids would drop by and stick a desk in the demo
units.