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paris  
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 More options Jul 4, 10:59 am
Newsgroups: alt.airports.uk.edinburgh
From: paris <gdunnhom...@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 10:59 am
Subject: The hours must just fly by
Look down the topics list on this page. What a lot of absalute crap
and mostly nowt to do with EDI.............Check out the responses or
even a whimper of debate? Nothing doing...Just one strange guys
obsession with his key board and F*#k all else...........The hours
must just fly by in his wee world.......!!!!!

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From: Danny <taxiwayal...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 11:25 am
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by
On 4 Jul, 15:59, paris <gdunnhom...@aol.com> wrote:

> Look down the topics list on this page. What a lot of absalute crap
> and mostly nowt to do with EDI.............Check out the responses or
> even a whimper of debate? Nothing doing...Just one strange guys
> obsession with his key board and F*#k all else...........

That and everyone else's obsession with the strange guys obsession ...
when there is posting activity, obviously!

> The hours must just fly by in his wee world.......!!!!!

Well, nobody's stopping you from contributing something
worthwhile ....

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 More options Jul 4, 1:34 pm
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From: Joe Curry <e...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:34:45 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 1:34 pm
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT), paris <gdunnhom...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Look down the topics list on this page. What a lot of absalute crap
>and mostly nowt to do with EDI.............

Check the posting guidelines...

---------------------------

This regular FAQ is posted on the 1st. of each month.

                               --==*-< >-*==--

These posting guidelines are devoted to the memory of Mick Baxter
who lived in Dunblane. Mick was killed June 2001 in a motor bike
accident.
He was 35 years old and a staunch supporter of Edinburgh Airport.
Sadly missed by all who knew him.

                               --==*-< >-*==--

WARNING! This newsgroup contains some opinions and comments that you
may not agree with.We encourage discussion and sharing of opinion and
it would appear that some people find this difficult to deal with. My
advice to persons of this persuasion is to view
alt.airports.uk.glasgow

If on the other hand you accept this is a dedicated Edinburgh airport
newsgroup - WELCOME.
                               --==*-< >-*==--

WELCOME to the unmoderated newsgroup. alt.airports.uk.edinburgh.
This UK family group is intended for discussion of the
airline/air travel industries. Also the discussion of personal
air travel and fares.

It is also intended to be a forum for travel agents, Air Traffic
Control and other World-related air travel subjects. Posts
from European/World Countries pertaining to the guidelines set down
in this FAQ will also be accepted in this newsgroup. The English
language however must be used for all posts.

News items covering 100% aviation subjects are particularly
welcome.

The newsgroups goal is to maintain an active and open discussion
without burdening readers with commercial 'spams' and non
aviation subjects that are not relevant to the newsgroups charter.
Binaries of any nature are forbidden. (Please use the
free.uk.binaries.edinburgh-airport newsgroup - aviation images
ONLY!)

Posts in  MIME/HTML! or other formats designed to be
viewed by Internet browsers is strictly forbidden.
This is necessary in order to make post readable to all members
on the newsgroup, you are therefore requested to post text only
messages. Consult your software on how to post text only
messages. Can you post Binaries? The answer is NO, NO and NO!

-------------------------------------------------------------

       Subject: What is acceptable?

Any posts that discuss issues regarding Edinburgh Airport and
100% aviation subjects are welcomed here provided they do not
fall into the reject category. (see "What is not acceptable".)

Appropriate discussions would include, but are not limited to:

* Airlines operating from Edinburgh Airport and
  comments/feedback from passengers.

* Edinburgh Airport franchise holders, comments/feedback from
  clients etc.

* The present monopoly operators of the airport are BAA and
  comments/feedback about lack of airport competition in
  Scotland etc.etc.

* Airliner models, resource, allocation, capacity, etc

* Comments about the Airline/Airportindustry from insiders
  (most World airlines and Airports serving Edinburgh Airport
  have one or more employees who read/post to the net, we hope
  to attract serious comments from these posters to this group).

* Discussion of all aspects of European/World airline and airport
  management.

* Fare changes and discussion of their effects on European/World
  airline passenger/airlines and travel agencies.

* Air Traffic Control personnel on their experiences and advice
  or otherwise to both European/World laymen and pilots.

* Scheduled and Charter Airlines and subcontractors to them.

* Aircraft 'spotters' are particularly welcome and it is hoped
  that advance news of movements etc will be available in the
  newsgroup.

* Taxi services and other transfer services, provided they are
  100% Edinburgh Airport related.

* Flying Club posts are particularly welcome. (EDI only)

* Cargo posts related to EDI are also welcome.

* Press releases from airlines and other airline industry-related
  corporations (i.e. Boeing, Airbus, McDonnell Douglas, IATA.
  ABTA):

* Announcements of fare sales, route changes, aircraft purchases,
  leases.  

* FAQ's, Provided the content is aviation related.

* 100% aviation webpages.

* Announcements from the UK/European travel trade on fares,
  insurance and special offers. But only if they apply to
  Edinburgh Airport (Also applies to airports reached via EDI
  on direct/connecting flights.)

Topics can range from small charter operations to and from Europe
to major international passenger carriers such as British Airways,
Northwest,American, KLM, Sabena, Air France, or Lufthansa etc.

Aviation Job advertising/seeking orientated is also accepted.

Examples of things that will be acceptable:

   (1) major airline seeking Boeing 727 captain with 3000 hours
       experience, seeks employment, email: j...@somewhere.com"

   (2) Situations vacant and wanted in any aspects of air travel,
       the airport, travel agents, Air Traffic Control etc.    

   (3) Classifieds will not be acceptable from employment agencies,
       this is a mutual interest group which does not stretch to
       the exploitation of individuals seeking employment.

   (4) Announcements and pointers for 100% aviation webpages.

Here's what  WILL NOT be acceptable in newsgroup postings:

   (1) Anything non-air travel relevant (phone cards, etc)
       These should be posted to alt.telecom.uk.online.

   (2) Webpage announcements for non-100% Edinburgh airport
       travel sites.(These should be posted to the
       alt.travel.uk.marketplace and free.uk.scotland.webpages  
       newsgroups.)

(The word 'Edinburgh' in the newsgroup name is not a licence
to post non Edinburgh air-related travel subjects. Posts and
Web Site 'pointers' must be fall into the 'Acceptable Category)

   (3) resumes/CVs. job postings are fine but NOT resumes.

   (4) Resume posts over about 20 lines (which automatically stops
       resumes )

   (5) I repeat again, anything from employment agencies.
       Sponsorships of any nature are forbidden.

   (6) Accommodation to let, rent or buy are OK provided they are
       Edinburgh Airport catchment area orientated.

   (7) Personal Services such as escorts/room mates are forbidden.

   (8) Any posts about online auctions, classified adverts, either
       'straight' or web based - just forget it, you are not
       welcome! Post these to alt.auctions.uk.online.

   (9) Surveys of any nature - except Edinburgh Airport related.

  (10) anything inflammatory mentioning RACE; CREED; COLOUR; GENDER;
       etc, even if its air-travel related.

  (11) Advertising air travel related items such as baggage,
ear-plugs,
       anti-motion remedies etc, etc, are also forbidden. Its OK for
       non-commercial posters to relate experiences of these. BUT no
       webpage references!

We have a near 100% record in tracing abuse and off-topic
postings. Do not even think about it!.... You will be
pursued and you will lose your current ISP account.
If you own your domain................you will lose your
mail and news server!

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        Subject:  What is not acceptable

A. Posts in a language other than English. This includes
   MIME/HTML!

B. Posts quoting a long previous post in its entirety and does
   not provide any new content. "I agree" posts fall into this
   category. Please edit correctly.

C. Posts quoting text without proper attribution.

D. Posts including an attribution line for a previous post,
   without including any of material to be quoted.

E. Posts on any non-aviation subject.

F. Posts about countries/districts that are not aviation
   related, even if it requires air travel to get there.
   Posts for instance, on Belgium will breach our guidelines,
   but posts about Brussels Airport will not. Don't get clever
   though and state "Brussels Airport is close to my hotel in
   Belgium" - its off-topic!

G. Posts ***promoting*** Glasgow Airport and airport transfers to
   and from there.

   This rule has drawn criticism in the past. Please remember
   our newsgroup's title! Anyone wishing to promote GLA should do
   so in the appropriate newsgroups:

   free.uk.airports.abbottsinch and alt.airports.uk.glasgow and
uk.local.
   glasgow

   It should be pointed out that this rule is designed to avoid the
childish
   "mine's bigger than yours" conflict that has plagued Scottish
aviation
    newsgroups.

   East v West Confrontation in mutual interest newsgroups must be
avoided.

   Articles from the Evening Times are quite often
Edinburgh-inflammatory,
   posting these articles to this newsgroup is inviting the east v
west confrontation we strive to avoid...

   Remember Evening Times articles are written and published in
Glasgow for a Glasgow readership,
   reproducing them in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh is both malicious
mischief and anti-social.

   Cross-posting articles between alt.airports.uk.edinburgh and
   alt.airports.uk.glasgow. (Cross-posting to binary newsgroups is
   also not acceptable for obvious reasons).
   Please consider that a thread in a text group may begin as
appropriate to  two newsgroups, but followups
   may soon become "off topic" in one of the groups.

   Newsgroups should be allowed their unique identities without
   'stealing' each others.

   Pro-GLA Taunts and jibes aimed at individuals or the newsgroup
readership
   in general are inflammatory, offenders will be reported to the
service provider responsible for their internet access.

   These comments from Alan Doniger on 7th.February 2004 accurately
describe    the extent of the abuse suffered.

   "I used to think this was an interesting enough newsgroup basically
   concerning the growth,
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Joe Curry  
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 More options Jul 4, 1:38 pm
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From: Joe Curry <e...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:38:18 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 1:38 pm
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:25:53 -0700 (PDT), Danny

<taxiwayal...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> The hours must just fly by in his wee world.......!!!!!
>Well, nobody's stopping you from contributing something
>worthwhile ....

Good comment..seems these guys hate any kind of input in here..
We have been in existence for over a decade  the spoilers obviously
have an anti-AAUE agenda.

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 More options Jul 4, 2:03 pm
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From: John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:03:35 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 2:03 pm
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by

Joe Curry wrote in message <5qns64t705iqk0qmr6dncoo5op9jagn...@4ax.com>

:

>On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:25:53 -0700 (PDT), Danny
><taxiwayal...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>>> The hours must just fly by in his wee world.......!!!!!

>>Well, nobody's stopping you from contributing something
>>worthwhile ....

>Good comment..seems these guys hate any kind of input in here..
>We have been in existence for over a decade  the spoilers obviously
>have an anti-AAUE agenda.

Who are the "we" you mention. Do you mean "this newsgroup" as "we". If
so, I'd suggest you stop thinking it is your personal property, because
it is not. Most of the spoiling comes from you, no thread can be
completed without at least a single post from you on every end of thread
- in many threads your posts make up over 80% of the input and are often
off the point or childish comments. In many others your repetitious
posting of out of date information and stuff easily available elsewhere
makes it useless to read. Coupled with your persistent thread breaking
in cross posted threads you have single handedly managed to reduce the
group to ruins for everyone else.

I suppose I should congratulate you on your many years of single
mindedness, but it has a very depressing effect here, especially now
that usenet is fast disappearing, especially in the alt. areas.

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 More options Jul 4, 2:08 pm
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From: John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:08:06 +0100
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by

Joe Curry wrote in message <vnns64pgao7vjdm1e5oj69s007bmcif...@4ax.com>

:

>On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 07:59:31 -0700 (PDT), paris <gdunnhom...@aol.com>
>wrote:

>>Look down the topics list on this page. What a lot of absalute crap
>>and mostly nowt to do with EDI.............

>Check the posting guidelines...

>---------------------------

>This regular FAQ is posted on the 1st. of each month.

Are they posting guidelines or FAQ? Can't be both IMHO.

Have you considered them yourself anyway. You seem to persistently
ignore this bit

>Here's what  WILL NOT be acceptable in newsgroup postings:
>(10) anything inflammatory mentioning RACE; CREED; COLOUR; GENDER;
>       etc, even if its air-travel related.

So you are not in a position to ask anyone to keep to your fantasy
guidelines anyway.

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 More options Jul 4, 3:07 pm
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From: Joe Curry <e...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:07:15 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:03:35 +0100, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>but it has a very depressing effect here, especially now
>that usenet is fast disappearing, especially in the alt. areas.

Thanks to the cyber/usenet bullies, the the kind we witness in this
newsgroup on an almost daily basis.

And why are you sticking your paddle in here again..?

If anything is depressing it's the constant personal attacks and
abuse..strange you never comment on or chastise those responsible.?

Condoning by silence?

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 More options Jul 4, 3:09 pm
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From: Joe Curry <e...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:09:19 GMT
Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 3:09 pm
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:08:06 +0100, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>>Here's what  WILL NOT be acceptable in newsgroup postings:
>>(10) anything inflammatory mentioning RACE; CREED; COLOUR; GENDER;
>>       etc, even if its air-travel related.
>So you are not in a position to ask anyone to keep to your fantasy
>guidelines anyway.

Eyes of the beholder?..and where have I mentioned anything
inflammatory about race, creed, colour, gender?

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From: John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:54:10 +0100
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 3:54 am
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by

Joe Curry wrote in message <97ts64to703a56lnqiamiaee7228br9...@4ax.com>

:

>On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:08:06 +0100, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:

>>>Here's what  WILL NOT be acceptable in newsgroup postings:
>>>(10) anything inflammatory mentioning RACE; CREED; COLOUR; GENDER;
>>>       etc, even if its air-travel related.

>>So you are not in a position to ask anyone to keep to your fantasy
>>guidelines anyway.

>Eyes of the beholder?..and where have I mentioned anything
>inflammatory about race, creed, colour, gender?

I am more concerned about etc, where you have posted masses of
completely bigoted material, which is very easily located on a search.
It has been discussed recently here so its not worth talking about now.

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From: John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:51:17 +0100
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 3:51 am
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by

Joe Curry wrote in message <nvss645fgnun2n9dgcog0g5rg32h8bk...@4ax.com>

:

>On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:03:35 +0100, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:

>>but it has a very depressing effect here, especially now
>>that usenet is fast disappearing, especially in the alt. areas.

>Thanks to the cyber/usenet bullies, the the kind we witness in this
>newsgroup on an almost daily basis.

Interesting take on it. I suppose when I think of you as one of those
bullies, and you certainly are one, then there might be some sense in
that statement. The real reason is that copyright theft and pornography
and file sharing are all rife in usenet and US law enforcement has
decided it was time to limit this particular "freedom of speech". I
would also guess that some of it has to do with ISPs looking for a way
out from supporting an "old" system.

>And why are you sticking your paddle in here again..?

Again? Never been away from here and anyway I thought it was open to
anyone to contribute as they see fit, especially in a news group on a
subject they can contribute to. As I have said before, I travel a great
deal more than you do from Edinburgh airport and I refuse to be bullied
away by people like you.

>If anything is depressing it's the constant personal attacks and
>abuse..strange you never comment on or chastise those responsible.?

>Condoning by silence?

That is a totally untrue statement unworthy of further reply. You have
certainly never apologised for your threats in the past or criticised
your sock puppet who made even more.

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From: Joe Curry <e...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:42:46 GMT
Local: Sat, Jul 5 2008 4:42 am
Subject: Re: The hours must just fly by