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fasgnadh
Dec 30, 2011, 7:55:16 AM12/30/11
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On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
> Who do the deviants fear more:
> Fasgnadh or Bill the Atheist Killer or
> Loirbaj or US4Z or All Seeing or Jahnu
> or Jon Young or Dave?
I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
It just seems that talking about the real history of atheism
makes them all hysterical and in denial.
> Your mere appearance, here,
Just One thread has them all apoplectic! B^D
I haven't been bothered with their sheltered workshop
for over 12 months, and popping in to commiserate on the
loss of the leader of their last atheist state seems to have made
them as hysterical with grief as their Nth Korean comrades.
> sends the
> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
every atheist regime in history.
Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
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> Who do the deviants fear more:
> Fasgnadh or Bill the Atheist Killer or
> Loirbaj or US4Z or All Seeing or Jahnu
> or Jon Young or Dave?
I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
It just seems that talking about the real history of atheism
makes them all hysterical and in denial.
> Your mere appearance, here,
Just One thread has them all apoplectic! B^D
I haven't been bothered with their sheltered workshop
for over 12 months, and popping in to commiserate on the
loss of the leader of their last atheist state seems to have made
them as hysterical with grief as their Nth Korean comrades.
> sends the
> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
every atheist regime in history.
Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
--
---------
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http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
DonH
Dec 30, 2011, 1:17:48 PM12/30/11
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"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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instincts.
This, alone, is probably sufficient to doom us to extinction within the
next few decades - as the human plague chomps, and pollutes, its habitat.
But our large brain is obsessed with its own mental activities, or lack
of them, and Retroduction is the most common form of human "reasoning": we
decide on a desired Conclusion, and argue backwards from that to Major and
Minor Premises, ignoring or suppressing contrary facts, ideas, or opinion,
along the way.
Hence, as most people want Eternal Life (an extension of our strongest
instinct, Self-Preservation), we seize on any collection of "facts" to
support this, combining it all into Sacred Texts, which it is then Heresy to
question.
Thus the advent of Dogmatic Religions, especially the three main
Monotheistic Creeds.
Alternatively, or similarly, a Secular Utopia is also desirable, and the
same mental procedure is followed - more Dogma, and Suppression of Dissent;
whence Communism.
Western Plutocracy follows a similar pattern, but is more subtle in its
approach.
Entrenched Wealth, from prolonged compliance to the Predatory
Competition of the Corporate Jungle, gives us the European malaise, US
financial crises, and doldrums in THE Economy, generally. You may not be
persecuted for heresy - you merely lack a Job, and starve.
So, where does all this theory leave us, re Fearless Fasgnadh, and his
boring campaign to save us all from Evil Atheism?
Yes, Communism is a persecuting "Religion", but, what's new?
The Middle Ages would have done more re the Inquisition, Crusades, etc,
if it had modern technology, with gas chambers, napalm, and bunker busters.
Will Fearless himself become extinct, when the last Stalinist regime
disappears?
That would only leave Laos, Vietnam, and China, as Commie States, and
they seem to be doing alright, on the whole. Ah, but that's only due to
them becoming rather Capitalist?
Meantime, God must be lurking somewhere!
The God of the Gaps, in Science, is fading.
But there is a glimmer of hope - the God Particle!
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> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
>> Who do the deviants fear more:
>> Fasgnadh or Bill the Atheist Killer or
>> Loirbaj or US4Z or All Seeing or Jahnu
>> or Jon Young or Dave?
>
> I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>
> It just seems that talking about the real history of atheism
> makes them all hysterical and in denial.
>
>> Your mere appearance, here,
>
> Just One thread has them all apoplectic! B^D
>
> I haven't been bothered with their sheltered workshop
> for over 12 months, and popping in to commiserate on the
> loss of the leader of their last atheist state seems to have made
> them as hysterical with grief as their Nth Korean comrades.
>
> > sends the
>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>
> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by every
> atheist regime in history.
>
> Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>
# Homo Sapiens, the Mad Ape, has an over-large brain, linked to primitive
>> Who do the deviants fear more:
>> Fasgnadh or Bill the Atheist Killer or
>> Loirbaj or US4Z or All Seeing or Jahnu
>> or Jon Young or Dave?
>
> I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>
> It just seems that talking about the real history of atheism
> makes them all hysterical and in denial.
>
>> Your mere appearance, here,
>
> Just One thread has them all apoplectic! B^D
>
> I haven't been bothered with their sheltered workshop
> for over 12 months, and popping in to commiserate on the
> loss of the leader of their last atheist state seems to have made
> them as hysterical with grief as their Nth Korean comrades.
>
> > sends the
>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>
> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by every
> atheist regime in history.
>
> Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>
instincts.
This, alone, is probably sufficient to doom us to extinction within the
next few decades - as the human plague chomps, and pollutes, its habitat.
But our large brain is obsessed with its own mental activities, or lack
of them, and Retroduction is the most common form of human "reasoning": we
decide on a desired Conclusion, and argue backwards from that to Major and
Minor Premises, ignoring or suppressing contrary facts, ideas, or opinion,
along the way.
Hence, as most people want Eternal Life (an extension of our strongest
instinct, Self-Preservation), we seize on any collection of "facts" to
support this, combining it all into Sacred Texts, which it is then Heresy to
question.
Thus the advent of Dogmatic Religions, especially the three main
Monotheistic Creeds.
Alternatively, or similarly, a Secular Utopia is also desirable, and the
same mental procedure is followed - more Dogma, and Suppression of Dissent;
whence Communism.
Western Plutocracy follows a similar pattern, but is more subtle in its
approach.
Entrenched Wealth, from prolonged compliance to the Predatory
Competition of the Corporate Jungle, gives us the European malaise, US
financial crises, and doldrums in THE Economy, generally. You may not be
persecuted for heresy - you merely lack a Job, and starve.
So, where does all this theory leave us, re Fearless Fasgnadh, and his
boring campaign to save us all from Evil Atheism?
Yes, Communism is a persecuting "Religion", but, what's new?
The Middle Ages would have done more re the Inquisition, Crusades, etc,
if it had modern technology, with gas chambers, napalm, and bunker busters.
Will Fearless himself become extinct, when the last Stalinist regime
disappears?
That would only leave Laos, Vietnam, and China, as Commie States, and
they seem to be doing alright, on the whole. Ah, but that's only due to
them becoming rather Capitalist?
Meantime, God must be lurking somewhere!
The God of the Gaps, in Science, is fading.
But there is a glimmer of hope - the God Particle!
fasgnadh
Dec 31, 2011, 1:37:01 AM12/31/11
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DonH tries to explain why every atheist state was a shithole:
That's your explanation for why atheist states were shitholes?
Then you have a real job explaining the free, open, tolerant,
progressive secular democratic societies have all been built
and sustained by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
Clearly you should reconsider your position as an atheist,
or stop being a hypocrite and migrate to some atheist utopia..
Nth Korea seems to be the last one, limping along at the developmental
level of a colony of mad apes with lobotomies.
> This, alone, is probably sufficient to doom us to extinction within the
> next few decades - as the human plague chomps, and pollutes, its habitat.
I have more hope for atheists than you appear to have.
I think they can change.
I mean look at how the religious civilisations have evolved, adapted,
progressed, liberalised, become more subtle, complex, sophisticated
and supportive of freadom and human rights. Even you choose to live
there rather than the atheist state alternative.. probably because you
have seen that all the other atheist states in history ARE ALREADY
DOOMED! B^D
> But our large brain is obsessed
People who are obsessed with their 'large brains' are usually
overcompensating, and just as likely to purchase penis-enlargers.
There was no measurable diminution of the brain sizes of Lenin, Mao,
Stalin Pol Pot or any other leader of an atheist tyranny...
clearly it is what you do with it, not just size, that matters.
> with its own mental activities, or lack of them,
Sounds like mental masturbation..
you should get out more and meet people.
> and Retroduction is the most common form of human "reasoning":
Maybe among atheists, you can't mention last centuries Atheist
regime Holocausts without them burrowing back in ancient history
to find a frequently chanted list of crimes by others..
It's like "Sure we atheists murdered 60,000,00 people but what
about the 20,000 witches burnt by religion.. don't ask us
to apologise for mass murder, they did bad stuff too!"
Why do atheists carry on like that, Don?
> we decide on a desired Conclusion,
> and argue backwards from that to Major and
> Minor Premises, ignoring or suppressing contrary facts, ideas, or opinion,
> along the way.
Got it.
That explains WHAT you do,
But WHY?
> Hence, as most people want Eternal Life (an extension of our strongest
> instinct, Self-Preservation), we seize on any collection of "facts" to
> support this, combining it all into Sacred Texts, which it is then Heresy to
> question.
Why don't you look at reality instead.
That which is material, decomposes, that which isn't, can't.
thus, all bodies, temples, tools, decompose,
but energy is not destroyed, it merely changes forms.
Such is the physical and non-physical universe as we understand it.
Now is your thought material or immaterial, not the thing you think it
with, (brain) but the thought, which could be written down, or
recorded, and transmitted to another mind, changing form as it goes...
now a book, now a video, now the SAME thought in another head.
I can pick up that book or video LOOOOOOONG after your death and that
thought still lives.
ooooh wow.. non-religious eternal life! B^D
Such is your spirit.
It is immaterial and cannot be destroyed.
We are spirits, having a brief physical experience.
Many of the capacities we needed in this life were
developed in the womb, where we did not need them;
arms, legs, eyes,, lungs.
Similarly, in this life we need to develop the capacities
for the next one.
If you haven't realised this it may be getting too late.
Best use that Enormous Brain of yours and get cracking.
> Thus the advent of Dogmatic Religions, especially the three main
> Monotheistic Creeds.
I'm an agnostic, (I find the atheists as least as dogmatic
as the dogmatic fundies and more so than the intelligent rational
theists, the ones who are Nobel prize winning physicists and believers
for example), so I'm telling you this without reference to God/s
just in case you think the precautionary principle makes sense.
as any spiritual self-improvement, (becoming MORE compassionate,
just, forgiving, honest, brave, loving, hopeful, charitable, etc...)
will improve the experience of this life, as well.
> Alternatively, or similarly, a Secular Utopia is also desirable, and the
> same mental procedure is followed - more Dogma, and Suppression of Dissent;
> whence
atheist regimes and
> Communism.
The difference is religious societies are NOT ALL dogmatic tyrannies,
whereas EVERY atheist state was!
The USA, Australia, European Nations, Canada, Japan, Indonesia et al are
all Majority Religious nations, but uphold the rule of law, human
rights, and freedom of thought and belief.. i guess that's why you
hypocrites choose to live there rather than in an atheist state, eh?
> Western Plutocracy follows a similar pattern, but is more subtle in its
> approach.
> Entrenched Wealth, from prolonged compliance to the Predatory
> Competition of the Corporate Jungle, gives us the European malaise,
It's all relative.. I would live in France or Santorini in a flash,
but not in Nth Korea
> US financial crises, and doldrums in THE Economy, generally.
Still far superior materially, and light years ahead socially
culturally and spiritually, than Nth Korea.
> You may not be
> persecuted for heresy - you merely lack a Job, and starve.
You are talking about Nth Korea, not the USA, surely.
> So, where does all this theory leave us,
Well it leaves you with a room full of your own hot air, no answers and
looking for a scapegoat to link it all to, even though there is no
connection apart from your desperate need to fit a preamble of pompous
blather to your equally irrelevant slander:
> re Fearless Fasgnadh, and his
> boring campaign to save us all from Evil Atheism?
Why do you think a campaign to save people from evil far worse
than that you have just bored us with, is boring?
Especially as the solution to the greater evil is much simpler...
Don't be an atheist regime! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
See we are already doing it!
Deus ex Machina... the solution magically appears.
Now the problem remaining is what kind of cognitive
dissonance does it take to have people who freely choose
to live in a majority religious DEMOCRACY rather than
the last ATHEIST state, and simultaneously promote
atheism while avoiding any HONEST and BALANCED examination
of it's real history, and yet condemn ALL religion on the basis
of a few, atypical, often ancient and cherry picked examples
of wrongdoing by some followers of one or another of the world religions
over centuries of their civilising influence.
> Yes, Communism is a persecuting "Religion"
No it isn't.
The CPA never persecuted anyone.
Every Atheist state fiercely persecuted religion,
the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot....
but the current communist government in China has reformed it's
constitution to allow greater religious freedoms (it is a farce
in Tibet, there the Chinese want to retain political control,
exploit resources and maintain a buffer state, but that is
not primarily a religious persecution, they just want political
dominance and that means reducing the influence of the Dalia Llama.
(Frankly I think it is one area in which they are crazy, an
autonomous Tibet could be the Shangri La of spiritual tourist
destinations and a bustling centre of Buddhist thought
(after all it's a good fit.. no emphasis on God))
But the trend is clear, religion is here to stay, even
in 'Communist' but no longer atheist, China;
"With the gradual liberalisation that developed with
Deng Xiaoping's open door reforms, religion was no
longer proscribed. In 1982, the constitution was
amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom
of religion."
http://cbbc.org/china_guide/religion.html
"At the first world Buddhism forum in East China's Zhejiang
Province last year, the Chinese government acknowledged
the active role religion plays in building a harmonious society."
"For example, religious beliefs have helped cut down crime
to a large extent,"
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
"religion has been enjoying a resurgence in China over the
past 20 years, as Communist Party disapproval has eased"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm
"Religious believers thrice the estimate
By Wu Jiao (China Daily)
"A survey has found that the number of religious believers
is three times bigger than the official estimate.
The poll of about 4,500 people, conducted by professors Tong
Shijun and Liu Zhongyu of Shanghai-based East China Normal
University from 2005 till recently, found that 31.4 percent
of Chinese aged 16 and above or about 300 million are religious."
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
Incredible! in just a few short years the new converts from
atheism In JUST ONE COUNTRY, far outnumber the slow increase
in tiny atheist numbers in the rest of the WORLD! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA
, but, what's new?
China being Communist but abandoning State Atheism!
New to you, at least. And this:
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm
> The Middle Ages would have done more re the Inquisition, Crusades, etc,
> if it had modern technology, with gas chambers, napalm, and bunker busters.
Wow, your version of apologia for atheist murder is really
becoming extreme: "Ok, sure Atheism killed over 60,000,000 people
in a mere 7 decades and left no legacy of a functioning state,
let alone a viable civilisation, but hey, others did bad stuff too,
and would have dun worse if'n they had our modern world weaponry."
Meanwhile, as atheists were regressing to medieval barbarism,
majority religious societies were going to the moon, using those
same weapons to defeat fascism, and creating more tolerant societies.
Religion is in the VANGUARD of progress.
Atheism is lying in the dust at the rear.
> Will Fearless himself become extinct, when the last Stalinist regime
> disappears?
Have atheists disappeared, long after the medieval crusades they use to
condemn ALL modern religion with?
I started this campaign for an HONEST and BALANCED assessment of the
history of atheism because the atheists are a cult which holds ALL
religions, and all believers, collectively responsible for the acts
of a tiny few.
Just as neo-Nazis need to be confronted and the destructive
history of Nazism exposed as a warning to gullible young minds
easily seduced by glib charlatans, so the truth about the atheist
holocaust needs to be told, especially considering the way atheists
rabidly attack religions and yet offer none of the hospitals, schools
and charities which the religious run.
As an agnostic my choice on who manes the more community minded,
co-operative and helpful group is clear.
They have a patchy, but always trying to improve, record of
achievement, you have one of death and failure, with no redeeming
legacy.
> That would only leave Laos, Vietnam, and China, as Commie States, and
> they seem to be doing alright, on the whole.
You poor dolt.. Laos and Vietnam never ran the atheist regimes
persecuting and killing millions that Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge and Mao's
Cultural revolution ran.
And I have documented the difference between Atheistic Communism, and
Communism with tolerance to religion in the above piece
discussing China's constitutional reform in 1982.
I suggest you read more and spout confusion and ignorance less.
> Ah, but that's only due to
> them becoming rather Capitalist?
Look Dimwit, There are a documented 40,000,000 dead in the Maoist era,
under the atheist persecution of religions. Temples were destroyed,
priests beaten and killed, property expropriated.
After Mao, the atheist agenda of bigotry and hate was abandoned.
From 1982 the constitution was reformed to end the prohibition and
persecution of religious believers, allowing greater freedom of
thought and belief. I have provided you with evidence of Communist
Party Officials giving unsolicited praise of the POSITIVE IMPACT
which faith has had in China.. over 300,000,000 new Chinese believers
in just seven years is the result. This is a an unequalled
growth anywhere in the world, at any time.
THE SPIRIT is MOVING in China!
Shanghai is full of small faith communities, invariable holding meetings
in their homes, al la the Early Church... mostly
educated young professionals.
They find no contradiction between their faith and modern science on the
one hand, or traditional confucian values on the other.
The religions of the world preach the same essential message,
in some places it becomes forgotten and a spiritual winter occurs..
Europe had one in the 20th Century.., Islam had one brought on by the
impact of Colonialism, in China it is Springtime.
> Meantime, God must be lurking somewhere!
Mate, Lenin, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Ill Fuk are lurking
in the ground, devoured by maggots.
Jesus Mohammed Buddha Brahma are loved by Billions.
Pity you can't feel the warmth, you only ever see the
same old man-made sickness and death.
> The God of the Gaps, in Science, is fading.
Lies and Bullshit.
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm
You live in the West where faith, and prosperity
have both declined, China's growth outweighs in both..
...it is the same dynamic spirit...
The USA has lost it's way, and you atheists are all
materialist doom and gloom,
without hope, without direction, without belief in any
transcendent possibility.
The global order is still unfolding, the art world
is shifting from NY to Shanghai, just as it once left
Paris for NY .. it follows the disposable incomes of the
highest concentration of millionaires..
But we don't want or need a new Global Superpower,
we need new, strengthened global institutions to regulate
finance and the economy, the nation states clearly are no longer
up to the task.
It's simply the extension of democratic government from the
town council, to the state, to the nation state, and eventually
to the world.
The UN, flawed as it is by Security Council veto, and the other
global institutions providing collective co-operation, and security
have prevented World War for over half a century.
A remarkable achievement, and a great improvement on the League
of nations, which had the same goal after WWI, but failed.
We are in the early stages of a global civilisation,
it is very exciting, don't you think?
> But there is a glimmer of hope - the God Particle!
Do you even amuse yourself with such trivial nonsense?
Then you have a real job explaining the free, open, tolerant,
progressive secular democratic societies have all been built
and sustained by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
Clearly you should reconsider your position as an atheist,
or stop being a hypocrite and migrate to some atheist utopia..
Nth Korea seems to be the last one, limping along at the developmental
level of a colony of mad apes with lobotomies.
> This, alone, is probably sufficient to doom us to extinction within the
> next few decades - as the human plague chomps, and pollutes, its habitat.
I think they can change.
I mean look at how the religious civilisations have evolved, adapted,
progressed, liberalised, become more subtle, complex, sophisticated
and supportive of freadom and human rights. Even you choose to live
there rather than the atheist state alternative.. probably because you
have seen that all the other atheist states in history ARE ALREADY
DOOMED! B^D
> But our large brain is obsessed
overcompensating, and just as likely to purchase penis-enlargers.
There was no measurable diminution of the brain sizes of Lenin, Mao,
Stalin Pol Pot or any other leader of an atheist tyranny...
clearly it is what you do with it, not just size, that matters.
> with its own mental activities, or lack of them,
you should get out more and meet people.
> and Retroduction is the most common form of human "reasoning":
regime Holocausts without them burrowing back in ancient history
to find a frequently chanted list of crimes by others..
It's like "Sure we atheists murdered 60,000,00 people but what
about the 20,000 witches burnt by religion.. don't ask us
to apologise for mass murder, they did bad stuff too!"
Why do atheists carry on like that, Don?
> we decide on a desired Conclusion,
> and argue backwards from that to Major and
> Minor Premises, ignoring or suppressing contrary facts, ideas, or opinion,
> along the way.
That explains WHAT you do,
But WHY?
> Hence, as most people want Eternal Life (an extension of our strongest
> instinct, Self-Preservation), we seize on any collection of "facts" to
> support this, combining it all into Sacred Texts, which it is then Heresy to
> question.
That which is material, decomposes, that which isn't, can't.
thus, all bodies, temples, tools, decompose,
but energy is not destroyed, it merely changes forms.
Such is the physical and non-physical universe as we understand it.
Now is your thought material or immaterial, not the thing you think it
with, (brain) but the thought, which could be written down, or
recorded, and transmitted to another mind, changing form as it goes...
now a book, now a video, now the SAME thought in another head.
I can pick up that book or video LOOOOOOONG after your death and that
thought still lives.
ooooh wow.. non-religious eternal life! B^D
Such is your spirit.
It is immaterial and cannot be destroyed.
We are spirits, having a brief physical experience.
Many of the capacities we needed in this life were
developed in the womb, where we did not need them;
arms, legs, eyes,, lungs.
Similarly, in this life we need to develop the capacities
for the next one.
If you haven't realised this it may be getting too late.
Best use that Enormous Brain of yours and get cracking.
> Thus the advent of Dogmatic Religions, especially the three main
> Monotheistic Creeds.
as the dogmatic fundies and more so than the intelligent rational
theists, the ones who are Nobel prize winning physicists and believers
for example), so I'm telling you this without reference to God/s
just in case you think the precautionary principle makes sense.
as any spiritual self-improvement, (becoming MORE compassionate,
just, forgiving, honest, brave, loving, hopeful, charitable, etc...)
will improve the experience of this life, as well.
> Alternatively, or similarly, a Secular Utopia is also desirable, and the
> same mental procedure is followed - more Dogma, and Suppression of Dissent;
> whence
> Communism.
The difference is religious societies are NOT ALL dogmatic tyrannies,
whereas EVERY atheist state was!
The USA, Australia, European Nations, Canada, Japan, Indonesia et al are
all Majority Religious nations, but uphold the rule of law, human
rights, and freedom of thought and belief.. i guess that's why you
hypocrites choose to live there rather than in an atheist state, eh?
> Western Plutocracy follows a similar pattern, but is more subtle in its
> approach.
> Entrenched Wealth, from prolonged compliance to the Predatory
> Competition of the Corporate Jungle, gives us the European malaise,
but not in Nth Korea
> US financial crises, and doldrums in THE Economy, generally.
culturally and spiritually, than Nth Korea.
> You may not be
> persecuted for heresy - you merely lack a Job, and starve.
> So, where does all this theory leave us,
looking for a scapegoat to link it all to, even though there is no
connection apart from your desperate need to fit a preamble of pompous
blather to your equally irrelevant slander:
> re Fearless Fasgnadh, and his
> boring campaign to save us all from Evil Atheism?
than that you have just bored us with, is boring?
Especially as the solution to the greater evil is much simpler...
Don't be an atheist regime! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
See we are already doing it!
Deus ex Machina... the solution magically appears.
Now the problem remaining is what kind of cognitive
dissonance does it take to have people who freely choose
to live in a majority religious DEMOCRACY rather than
the last ATHEIST state, and simultaneously promote
atheism while avoiding any HONEST and BALANCED examination
of it's real history, and yet condemn ALL religion on the basis
of a few, atypical, often ancient and cherry picked examples
of wrongdoing by some followers of one or another of the world religions
over centuries of their civilising influence.
> Yes, Communism is a persecuting "Religion"
The CPA never persecuted anyone.
Every Atheist state fiercely persecuted religion,
the USSR, Maoist China, Pol Pot....
but the current communist government in China has reformed it's
constitution to allow greater religious freedoms (it is a farce
in Tibet, there the Chinese want to retain political control,
exploit resources and maintain a buffer state, but that is
not primarily a religious persecution, they just want political
dominance and that means reducing the influence of the Dalia Llama.
(Frankly I think it is one area in which they are crazy, an
autonomous Tibet could be the Shangri La of spiritual tourist
destinations and a bustling centre of Buddhist thought
(after all it's a good fit.. no emphasis on God))
But the trend is clear, religion is here to stay, even
in 'Communist' but no longer atheist, China;
"With the gradual liberalisation that developed with
Deng Xiaoping's open door reforms, religion was no
longer proscribed. In 1982, the constitution was
amended to allow Chinese people considerable freedom
of religion."
http://cbbc.org/china_guide/religion.html
"At the first world Buddhism forum in East China's Zhejiang
Province last year, the Chinese government acknowledged
the active role religion plays in building a harmonious society."
"For example, religious beliefs have helped cut down crime
to a large extent,"
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
"religion has been enjoying a resurgence in China over the
past 20 years, as Communist Party disapproval has eased"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6337627.stm
"Religious believers thrice the estimate
By Wu Jiao (China Daily)
"A survey has found that the number of religious believers
is three times bigger than the official estimate.
The poll of about 4,500 people, conducted by professors Tong
Shijun and Liu Zhongyu of Shanghai-based East China Normal
University from 2005 till recently, found that 31.4 percent
of Chinese aged 16 and above or about 300 million are religious."
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-02/07/content_802994.htm
Incredible! in just a few short years the new converts from
atheism In JUST ONE COUNTRY, far outnumber the slow increase
in tiny atheist numbers in the rest of the WORLD! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA
, but, what's new?
New to you, at least. And this:
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm
> The Middle Ages would have done more re the Inquisition, Crusades, etc,
> if it had modern technology, with gas chambers, napalm, and bunker busters.
becoming extreme: "Ok, sure Atheism killed over 60,000,000 people
in a mere 7 decades and left no legacy of a functioning state,
let alone a viable civilisation, but hey, others did bad stuff too,
and would have dun worse if'n they had our modern world weaponry."
Meanwhile, as atheists were regressing to medieval barbarism,
majority religious societies were going to the moon, using those
same weapons to defeat fascism, and creating more tolerant societies.
Religion is in the VANGUARD of progress.
Atheism is lying in the dust at the rear.
> Will Fearless himself become extinct, when the last Stalinist regime
> disappears?
condemn ALL modern religion with?
I started this campaign for an HONEST and BALANCED assessment of the
history of atheism because the atheists are a cult which holds ALL
religions, and all believers, collectively responsible for the acts
of a tiny few.
Just as neo-Nazis need to be confronted and the destructive
history of Nazism exposed as a warning to gullible young minds
easily seduced by glib charlatans, so the truth about the atheist
holocaust needs to be told, especially considering the way atheists
rabidly attack religions and yet offer none of the hospitals, schools
and charities which the religious run.
As an agnostic my choice on who manes the more community minded,
co-operative and helpful group is clear.
They have a patchy, but always trying to improve, record of
achievement, you have one of death and failure, with no redeeming
legacy.
> That would only leave Laos, Vietnam, and China, as Commie States, and
> they seem to be doing alright, on the whole.
persecuting and killing millions that Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge and Mao's
Cultural revolution ran.
And I have documented the difference between Atheistic Communism, and
Communism with tolerance to religion in the above piece
discussing China's constitutional reform in 1982.
I suggest you read more and spout confusion and ignorance less.
> Ah, but that's only due to
> them becoming rather Capitalist?
under the atheist persecution of religions. Temples were destroyed,
priests beaten and killed, property expropriated.
After Mao, the atheist agenda of bigotry and hate was abandoned.
From 1982 the constitution was reformed to end the prohibition and
persecution of religious believers, allowing greater freedom of
thought and belief. I have provided you with evidence of Communist
Party Officials giving unsolicited praise of the POSITIVE IMPACT
which faith has had in China.. over 300,000,000 new Chinese believers
in just seven years is the result. This is a an unequalled
growth anywhere in the world, at any time.
THE SPIRIT is MOVING in China!
Shanghai is full of small faith communities, invariable holding meetings
in their homes, al la the Early Church... mostly
educated young professionals.
They find no contradiction between their faith and modern science on the
one hand, or traditional confucian values on the other.
The religions of the world preach the same essential message,
in some places it becomes forgotten and a spiritual winter occurs..
Europe had one in the 20th Century.., Islam had one brought on by the
impact of Colonialism, in China it is Springtime.
> Meantime, God must be lurking somewhere!
in the ground, devoured by maggots.
Jesus Mohammed Buddha Brahma are loved by Billions.
Pity you can't feel the warmth, you only ever see the
same old man-made sickness and death.
> The God of the Gaps, in Science, is fading.
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm
You live in the West where faith, and prosperity
have both declined, China's growth outweighs in both..
...it is the same dynamic spirit...
The USA has lost it's way, and you atheists are all
materialist doom and gloom,
without hope, without direction, without belief in any
transcendent possibility.
The global order is still unfolding, the art world
is shifting from NY to Shanghai, just as it once left
Paris for NY .. it follows the disposable incomes of the
highest concentration of millionaires..
But we don't want or need a new Global Superpower,
we need new, strengthened global institutions to regulate
finance and the economy, the nation states clearly are no longer
up to the task.
It's simply the extension of democratic government from the
town council, to the state, to the nation state, and eventually
to the world.
The UN, flawed as it is by Security Council veto, and the other
global institutions providing collective co-operation, and security
have prevented World War for over half a century.
A remarkable achievement, and a great improvement on the League
of nations, which had the same goal after WWI, but failed.
We are in the early stages of a global civilisation,
it is very exciting, don't you think?
> But there is a glimmer of hope - the God Particle!
Surfer
Dec 31, 2011, 7:21:06 AM12/31/11
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 17:37:01 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>Then you have a real job explaining the free, open, tolerant,
>progressive secular democratic societies have all been built
>and sustained by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
>
I think you mean majority secular populations. That is, people who
prefer to be free from religious rule.
So far that doesn't seem to be the case in Saudi Arabia, Iran and
Pakistan, which don't yet have progressive secular democratic
societies, even though the majority of their populations are
religious.
wrote:
>
>Then you have a real job explaining the free, open, tolerant,
>progressive secular democratic societies have all been built
>and sustained by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
>
prefer to be free from religious rule.
So far that doesn't seem to be the case in Saudi Arabia, Iran and
Pakistan, which don't yet have progressive secular democratic
societies, even though the majority of their populations are
religious.
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Dec 31, 2011, 7:41:59 AM12/31/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>every atheist regime in history.
>
Well every atheist regime in history has had a state ideology which
effectively made it into a religious regime.
So there could be some commonality with other religious regimes.
The Inquisitions, witch hunts and torture
http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2d.htm
Iranian Women Prisoners Detail Torture: 'Death Was Like a Desire'
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/world/jan-june11/iranianwomen_06-10.html
Saudi Arabia: New Video Confirms Torture in Prison
http://www.hrw.org/news/2007/04/26/saudi-arabia-new-video-confirms-torture-prison
wrote:
>
>They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>every atheist regime in history.
>
effectively made it into a religious regime.
So there could be some commonality with other religious regimes.
The Inquisitions, witch hunts and torture
http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2d.htm
Iranian Women Prisoners Detail Torture: 'Death Was Like a Desire'
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/world/jan-june11/iranianwomen_06-10.html
Saudi Arabia: New Video Confirms Torture in Prison
http://www.hrw.org/news/2007/04/26/saudi-arabia-new-video-confirms-torture-prison
Surfer
Dec 31, 2011, 9:39:15 AM12/31/11
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:34:44 +0000 (UTC), "Fred Hall"
<fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Atheism makes you stupid" - Kadaitcha Man
>
Kurdaitcha (or kurdaitcha man) is a ritual "executioner" in Australian
Aboriginal culture. The word is from the Arrernte people and
specifically refers to the shoes worn by the man, woven of feathers
and human hair and treated with blood. Other spellings are Cadiche and
Kadaitcha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdaitcha
"....In 2004 Native Australians who disagreed with his policies
ritually cursed Australian Prime Minister, John Howard by pointing a
bone at him. He is still alive as of 2011.[7]...."
<fkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
Kurdaitcha (or kurdaitcha man) is a ritual "executioner" in Australian
Aboriginal culture. The word is from the Arrernte people and
specifically refers to the shoes worn by the man, woven of feathers
and human hair and treated with blood. Other spellings are Cadiche and
Kadaitcha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdaitcha
"....In 2004 Native Australians who disagreed with his policies
ritually cursed Australian Prime Minister, John Howard by pointing a
bone at him. He is still alive as of 2011.[7]...."
kni...@baawa.com
Dec 31, 2011, 10:44:28 PM12/31/11
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh
<fasg...@yahoo.com>licked his cum off a dogs ass and wrote:
>I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
As if the Village Idiot is 'that' important. The only competition
>I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
you'll ever see will be at the Special Olympics. My money will not be
on you.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Addinall
Jan 1, 2012, 12:26:56 AM1/1/12
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net
like 'Warlord' are fat little pimply wankers that jump at thier own
shadow?
I have.
Mark Addinall.
kni...@baawa.com
Jan 1, 2012, 3:25:58 PM1/1/12
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On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:26:56 -0800 (PST), Addinall
<addi...@addinall.net> wrote:
>On Jan 1, 1:44�pm, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh
>> <fasgn...@yahoo.com>licked his cum off a dogs ass and wrote:
>>
>> >I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>>
>> � �As if the Village Idiot is 'that' important. The only competition
>> you'll ever see will be at the Special Olympics. My money will not be
>> on you.
<addi...@addinall.net> wrote:
>On Jan 1, 1:44�pm, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh
>> <fasgn...@yahoo.com>licked his cum off a dogs ass and wrote:
>>
>> >I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>>
>> � �As if the Village Idiot is 'that' important. The only competition
>> you'll ever see will be at the Special Olympics. My money will not be
>> on you.
>Anyone else notice over the years on USENET that people with a nom-de-
>net
>like 'Warlord' are fat little pimply wankers that jump at thier own
>shadow?
>
>I have.
>
>Mark Addinall.
Oh, great. Another dolt that sticks sparklers up his ass and
>net
>like 'Warlord' are fat little pimply wankers that jump at thier own
>shadow?
>
>I have.
>
>Mark Addinall.
parades on the front yard.
I don't like arguing with idiots. You will beat me down to your
level and kick my butt because of your years of experience. Your mouth
is like an asshole. An evacuation route for solid waste and gas.
Shhh.... Did you hear that?
I heard it again! It's the cry of an idiot in distress. Are you
nearby?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
Colanth
Jan 1, 2012, 3:35:11 PM1/1/12
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--
"We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." - George Bush
Paul David Wright
Jan 2, 2012, 10:04:32 AM1/2/12
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:RwiLq.1104$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
> every atheist regime in history.
>
Because, it didn't happen in the name of atheism, which is a fact you
keep conveniently leaving out.
--
PDW
Check out my blog:
http://corneliusaddaptionproject.blogspot.com/
And my books:
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pdwright42
news:RwiLq.1104$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:
>
> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
> every atheist regime in history.
>
keep conveniently leaving out.
--
PDW
Check out my blog:
http://corneliusaddaptionproject.blogspot.com/
And my books:
http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pdwright42
Paul David Wright
Jan 2, 2012, 10:06:33 AM1/2/12
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> From: Surfer <n...@spam.net>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.atheism,alt.atheism.satire,alt.agnosticism,aus.politics,alt.agnost
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>
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
news:r9lvf750nirl6006o...@4ax.com:
> From: Surfer <n...@spam.net>
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>
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>>every atheist regime in history.
>>
>
>
>
>>
>>They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>>every atheist regime in history.
>>
>
> Well every atheist regime in history has had a state ideology which
> effectively made it into a religious regime.
>
> So there could be some commonality with other religious regimes.
>
>
Oh, good; Yet another religious liar.
> effectively made it into a religious regime.
>
> So there could be some commonality with other religious regimes.
>
>
Addinall
Jan 2, 2012, 8:12:04 PM1/2/12
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On Jan 2, 6:25 am, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:26:56 -0800 (PST), Addinall
>
>
>
>
>
> <addin...@addinall.net> wrote:
> >On Jan 1, 1:44 pm, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh
> >> <fasgn...@yahoo.com>licked his cum off a dogs ass and wrote:
>
> >> >I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>
> >> As if the Village Idiot is 'that' important. The only competition
> >> you'll ever see will be at the Special Olympics. My money will not be
> >> on you.
> >Anyone else notice over the years on USENET that people with a nom-de-
> >net
> >like 'Warlord' are fat little pimply wankers that jump at thier own
> >shadow?
>
> >I have.
>
> >Mark Addinall.
>
> Oh, great. Another dolt that sticks sparklers up his ass and
> parades on the front yard.
You do have a strange circle of friends.
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:26:56 -0800 (PST), Addinall
>
>
>
>
>
> <addin...@addinall.net> wrote:
> >On Jan 1, 1:44 pm, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
> >> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh
> >> <fasgn...@yahoo.com>licked his cum off a dogs ass and wrote:
>
> >> >I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>
> >> As if the Village Idiot is 'that' important. The only competition
> >> you'll ever see will be at the Special Olympics. My money will not be
> >> on you.
> >Anyone else notice over the years on USENET that people with a nom-de-
> >net
> >like 'Warlord' are fat little pimply wankers that jump at thier own
> >shadow?
>
> >I have.
>
> >Mark Addinall.
>
> Oh, great. Another dolt that sticks sparklers up his ass and
> parades on the front yard.
>
> I don't like arguing with idiots.
> You will beat me down to your
> level and kick my butt because of your years of experience.
has to sweep the floors.
> Your mouth
> is like an asshole. An evacuation route for solid waste and gas.
About 11,000 litres per day, or some 4,015,000 litres per annum.
Using the same route for semi-solid wastes? Perhaps if I was ever
misfortunate enough to witness one of your 'Warlord' dress-up
afternoon gigs. That would do the trick.
>
> Shhh.... Did you hear that?
>
> I heard it again! It's the cry of an idiot in distress. Are you
> nearby?
>
NO MORE HELPING IDIOTS.
> Warlord Steve
> BAAWA-
You must live in a different universe where 'Warlord' means limp-
wristed pansy.
Mark Addinall.
Doc Smartass
Jan 2, 2012, 8:40:21 PM1/2/12
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Addinall <addi...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-bd16-
a3c330...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
> No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
There are several tax-free, government-free places in this world...
They're called "failed states."
a3c330...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
> No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
There are several tax-free, government-free places in this world...
They're called "failed states."
Tomasso
Jan 3, 2012, 5:29:26 AM1/3/12
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Addinall wrote:
> On Jan 2, 6:25 am, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:26:56 -0800 (PST), Addinall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <addin...@addinall.net> wrote:
>>> On Jan 1, 1:44 pm, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh
>>>> <fasgn...@yahoo.com>licked his cum off a dogs ass and wrote:
> Actually a lot more gas escapes through my lungs than my lower colon.
> About 11,000 litres per day, or some 4,015,000 litres per annum.
'Tis more complex than that. Colon gases difuse into the blood stream and
> On Jan 2, 6:25 am, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:26:56 -0800 (PST), Addinall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <addin...@addinall.net> wrote:
>>> On Jan 1, 1:44 pm, kni...@baawa.com wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:55:16 +1100, fasgnadh
>>>> <fasgn...@yahoo.com>licked his cum off a dogs ass and wrote:
> Actually a lot more gas escapes through my lungs than my lower colon.
> About 11,000 litres per day, or some 4,015,000 litres per annum.
out the lungs and mouth. That guy I knew who said he didn't fart was
possibly correct, in a sense...
T.
fasgnadh
Jan 3, 2012, 8:58:41 AM1/3/12
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Surfer keeps missing the wave:
example is 80% theist and 1.7% atheist, as ARIS data shows.
The secular democratic nation is what the majority religious
population built because they did not want the state interfering in
their religious freedoms - read the First Amendment.
How come no atheist state in history has ever managed a decent
democracy, or even a developing one like Indonesia, which has only been
at it since WWII enabled it to fight off Colonialism???
Don't you ever ask yourself, why atheist states always fail
catastrophically, and why the last one left, Nth Korea,
is such a pathetic shithole that it's people are forced
to eat grass, and it rates too low on the Human Development
Index for the UN to report on it!!!!! 8^o
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA
> That is, people who
> prefer to be free from religious rule.
Which includes the majority of religious people, you dimwit.
They threw out the Monarchs in political revolutions and
certainly rejected their claim to rule by divine right!
After all it was the religious majority who wanted the separation
of Church and state, to ensure that the no one religion or
ideology could be allied to the power of the state and oppress all the
others,like what happened with every atheist regimes and some theocracies.
The secular state is the best protection for complete diversity
and freedom of religious beliefs, including non-belief.
Contrast that achievement of countries with majority religious
populations, with the atheist regimes, EVERY one of which was
an oppressive totalitarian tyranny.
The historical facts don't lie, but you do.
> So far that doesn't seem to be the case in Saudi Arabia, Iran and
> Pakistan,
Who said it did, dimwit?
If you could actually read what I said, AND understand it,
you would see that I said
1. EVERY Atheist state was a totalitarian tyranny. Not one
of them ever produced a decent secular democracy..
2. The progressive, tolerant, secular democracies were ALL
evolved in countries with a Majority Religious population,
eg the US, Australia, Canada , European Nations.
I did NOT claim that EVERY religious society produced
a secular democract, you fuckwit!
Many of them had arrested development, often due to
the brutal impact of Imperialism and Colonialism.
Indonesia, for example was colonised by the Dutch,
then taken by the Japanese. Under both occupations their
indigenous armed forces the TNI, were trained in a fascist
manner. After the war they fought a fierce armed struggle
for Independence, but their military remained brutal and
in the surface of corrupt politicians like Suharto, who pillaged
Indonesia like no otehr third world despot, taking an estimated
15 to 20 Billion while leader. With the TNI corrupted and
violent, it will take post-colonial countfies like Indonesia
a long time to develop a more genuine, functional democracy.
> which don't yet have progressive secular democratic
> societies,
of course not, most of the dictators in South America,
the Middle East, Africa and Asia came to power as post
colonial inheritors of the retreating Imperial powers,
and they used the same brutal fascist forms of control
and self-aggrandisement.
When the West was forced to bow to local demands for
independence in places like Iraq, it deliberately drew
up borders to create instability, (a third, Shia, a third
Sunni, and a third Kurds, with the Kurds divided across
the Turkish Border, The Shia split across the Iranian border and
the Sunni divided across the borders with other Arab countries,
Thus the three groups could each be armed from their respective
neighbours and aided by cross border insurgencies.
The resulting instability made it easer for the Oil interests
and their western governments to exploit national weakness.
It was that sort of designed chaos that produced the armed
nationalist movements in weak former colonies,
and gave rise to the Gaddafis & the Saddams in the Middle East and
the Pinochets in South America, where US companies in the 1970's owned
85% of all South American resources.
There are lots of reasons why former victims of Colonialism and
Imperialism were to weak to develop the institutions required
for a successful democratic state.
China, remember, was defeated and humiliated in the Opium Wars,
forced to allow the drug trade, enriching the British pushers,
who used that wealth Silks and Porcelains for the western
market. British hegemony was followed by the Japanese invasion,
and by that time the traditional society and government was
destroyed, creating an opportunity for Mao.
Mao's Cultural Devolution was a disastrous failure as was the
Great Leap Backward, millions perished and traditional
values were suppressed and persecuted.
After reforms allowing greater religious freedom, the Chinese
leadership now value the rapid expansion of religious belief
and practice as a source of social harmony.
Where religion is harnessed as a form of control exercised by the
ruling elites it has not been a source of social cohesion, but where
freedom of thought and belief are allowed, social progress is faster.
> even though the majority of their populations are
> religious.
Yawn, you really are stupid to have so misread or deliberately
misunderstood my thesis.
I never claimed ALL religious societies have produced
secular democracies, but that ALL secular democracies have been
produced by majority religious populations, and NO atheist
regime ever produced a democracy, good or bad. EVERY single
atheist regime has been a totalitarian tyranny.
Atheism is a massive failure in comparison to the success of the
more advanced religious societies and their secular democratic
governments.
Q.E.D.
Oh, just to forstall any further idiocy from you,
(you don't seem to have grasped basic logic regarding
the reversability of propositions) please note
that I did NOT claim ALL tyrannies are atheist regimes, but
only that all atheist regimes are tyrannies.
Which is no doubt why even atheists prefer to live in
the more progressive, more highly evolved MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
societies, rather than ANY atheist state.
>> Clearly you should reconsider your position as an atheist,
>> or stop being a hypocrite and migrate to some atheist utopia..
I could pass the hat around for your airfare to Nth Korea if you
would like to live in accordance with your bullshit atheist views,
rather than continue to be a hypocrite parasitically leeching off
the benefits provided by the majority religious.
>> Then you have a real job explaining the free, open, tolerant,
>> progressive secular democratic societies have all been built
>> and sustained by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
>
> I think you mean majority secular populations.
You think wrong, I mean exactly what I said, the US population, for
>> progressive secular democratic societies have all been built
>> and sustained by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations.
>
> I think you mean majority secular populations.
example is 80% theist and 1.7% atheist, as ARIS data shows.
The secular democratic nation is what the majority religious
population built because they did not want the state interfering in
their religious freedoms - read the First Amendment.
How come no atheist state in history has ever managed a decent
democracy, or even a developing one like Indonesia, which has only been
at it since WWII enabled it to fight off Colonialism???
Don't you ever ask yourself, why atheist states always fail
catastrophically, and why the last one left, Nth Korea,
is such a pathetic shithole that it's people are forced
to eat grass, and it rates too low on the Human Development
Index for the UN to report on it!!!!! 8^o
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA
> That is, people who
> prefer to be free from religious rule.
They threw out the Monarchs in political revolutions and
certainly rejected their claim to rule by divine right!
After all it was the religious majority who wanted the separation
of Church and state, to ensure that the no one religion or
ideology could be allied to the power of the state and oppress all the
others,like what happened with every atheist regimes and some theocracies.
The secular state is the best protection for complete diversity
and freedom of religious beliefs, including non-belief.
Contrast that achievement of countries with majority religious
populations, with the atheist regimes, EVERY one of which was
an oppressive totalitarian tyranny.
The historical facts don't lie, but you do.
> So far that doesn't seem to be the case in Saudi Arabia, Iran and
> Pakistan,
If you could actually read what I said, AND understand it,
you would see that I said
1. EVERY Atheist state was a totalitarian tyranny. Not one
of them ever produced a decent secular democracy..
2. The progressive, tolerant, secular democracies were ALL
evolved in countries with a Majority Religious population,
eg the US, Australia, Canada , European Nations.
I did NOT claim that EVERY religious society produced
a secular democract, you fuckwit!
Many of them had arrested development, often due to
the brutal impact of Imperialism and Colonialism.
Indonesia, for example was colonised by the Dutch,
then taken by the Japanese. Under both occupations their
indigenous armed forces the TNI, were trained in a fascist
manner. After the war they fought a fierce armed struggle
for Independence, but their military remained brutal and
in the surface of corrupt politicians like Suharto, who pillaged
Indonesia like no otehr third world despot, taking an estimated
15 to 20 Billion while leader. With the TNI corrupted and
violent, it will take post-colonial countfies like Indonesia
a long time to develop a more genuine, functional democracy.
> which don't yet have progressive secular democratic
> societies,
the Middle East, Africa and Asia came to power as post
colonial inheritors of the retreating Imperial powers,
and they used the same brutal fascist forms of control
and self-aggrandisement.
When the West was forced to bow to local demands for
independence in places like Iraq, it deliberately drew
up borders to create instability, (a third, Shia, a third
Sunni, and a third Kurds, with the Kurds divided across
the Turkish Border, The Shia split across the Iranian border and
the Sunni divided across the borders with other Arab countries,
Thus the three groups could each be armed from their respective
neighbours and aided by cross border insurgencies.
The resulting instability made it easer for the Oil interests
and their western governments to exploit national weakness.
It was that sort of designed chaos that produced the armed
nationalist movements in weak former colonies,
and gave rise to the Gaddafis & the Saddams in the Middle East and
the Pinochets in South America, where US companies in the 1970's owned
85% of all South American resources.
There are lots of reasons why former victims of Colonialism and
Imperialism were to weak to develop the institutions required
for a successful democratic state.
China, remember, was defeated and humiliated in the Opium Wars,
forced to allow the drug trade, enriching the British pushers,
who used that wealth Silks and Porcelains for the western
market. British hegemony was followed by the Japanese invasion,
and by that time the traditional society and government was
destroyed, creating an opportunity for Mao.
Mao's Cultural Devolution was a disastrous failure as was the
Great Leap Backward, millions perished and traditional
values were suppressed and persecuted.
After reforms allowing greater religious freedom, the Chinese
leadership now value the rapid expansion of religious belief
and practice as a source of social harmony.
Where religion is harnessed as a form of control exercised by the
ruling elites it has not been a source of social cohesion, but where
freedom of thought and belief are allowed, social progress is faster.
> even though the majority of their populations are
> religious.
misunderstood my thesis.
I never claimed ALL religious societies have produced
secular democracies, but that ALL secular democracies have been
produced by majority religious populations, and NO atheist
regime ever produced a democracy, good or bad. EVERY single
atheist regime has been a totalitarian tyranny.
Atheism is a massive failure in comparison to the success of the
more advanced religious societies and their secular democratic
governments.
Q.E.D.
Oh, just to forstall any further idiocy from you,
(you don't seem to have grasped basic logic regarding
the reversability of propositions) please note
that I did NOT claim ALL tyrannies are atheist regimes, but
only that all atheist regimes are tyrannies.
Which is no doubt why even atheists prefer to live in
the more progressive, more highly evolved MAJORITY RELIGIOUS
societies, rather than ANY atheist state.
>> Clearly you should reconsider your position as an atheist,
>> or stop being a hypocrite and migrate to some atheist utopia..
would like to live in accordance with your bullshit atheist views,
rather than continue to be a hypocrite parasitically leeching off
the benefits provided by the majority religious.
Addinall
Jan 5, 2012, 10:33:16 PM1/5/12
to
On Jan 3, 11:40 am, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-bd16-
> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
"I am a lot smarter than you".
Happy?
Mark Addinall.
>
> --
> Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
>
> Kooks!http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
>
> Books!http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-bd16-
> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>
> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>
> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
Just for you.
> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>
> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
"I am a lot smarter than you".
Happy?
Mark Addinall.
>
> --
> Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
>
> Kooks!http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
>
John Baker
Jan 6, 2012, 12:27:56 AM1/6/12
to
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 19:33:16 -0800 (PST), Addinall
<addi...@addinall.net> wrote:
>On Jan 3, 11:40�am, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-bd16-
>> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>>
>> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
>
>Just for you.
>
>"I am a lot smarter than you".
>
>Happy?
Nope. I'm not as easy as Doc. You said it, now you're going to have to
<addi...@addinall.net> wrote:
>On Jan 3, 11:40�am, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-bd16-
>> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>>
>> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
>
>Just for you.
>
>"I am a lot smarter than you".
>
>Happy?
prove it.
Good luck with that.
Doc Smartass
Jan 6, 2012, 1:14:31 PM1/6/12
to
Addinall <addi...@addinall.net> wrote in news:823f06da-4c8f-4f07-a443-
0b86dd...@m4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 3, 11:40 am, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-
bd16-
>> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>>
>> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
>
> Just for you.
>
> "I am a lot smarter than you".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Again! Again!
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
Kooks! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
0b86dd...@m4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 3, 11:40 am, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-
bd16-
>> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>>
>> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
>
> Just for you.
>
> "I am a lot smarter than you".
Again! Again!
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling aa # 1939
Books! http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
John Baker
Jan 6, 2012, 1:56:53 PM1/6/12
to
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:14:31 -0600, Doc Smartass
<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>Addinall <addi...@addinall.net> wrote in news:823f06da-4c8f-4f07-a443-
>0b86dd...@m4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Jan 3, 11:40 am, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>>> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-
>bd16-
>>> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>>>
>>> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
>>
>> Just for you.
>>
>> "I am a lot smarter than you".
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
>Again! Again!
I ran into this guy in sci.skeptic a couple of years or so ago. Dumb
<Fortbr...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>Addinall <addi...@addinall.net> wrote in news:823f06da-4c8f-4f07-a443-
>0b86dd...@m4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Jan 3, 11:40 am, Doc Smartass <FortbrickG...@yahoobrick.com> wrote:
>>> Addinall <addin...@addinall.net> wrote in news:09880ab1-30ee-4be7-
>bd16-
>>> a3c330ded...@l18g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>> > No, I'm just a lot smarter than you.
>>>
>>> It's always amusing when an idiot says that. Say it again.
>>
>> Just for you.
>>
>> "I am a lot smarter than you".
>
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
>Again! Again!
as a hod of bricks and too arrogant to see it.
>
fasgnadh
Jan 7, 2012, 9:20:51 AM1/7/12
to
On 3/01/2012 2:04 AM, Paul David Wright wrote:
because it wasn't carried out in the name of Anti-Semitism.. idiotic.
Besides, you are simply wrong, the Atheist state which
did all the terror, torture and mass murder EXPLICITLY
did it in the name of atheism;
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
> On 30/12/2011 11:55 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
>>> Who do the deviants fear more:
>>> Fasgnadh or Bill the Atheist Killer or
>>> Loirbaj or US4Z or All Seeing or Jahnu
>>> or Jon Young or Dave?
>>
>> I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>>
>> It just seems that talking about the real history of atheism
>> makes them all hysterical and in denial.
>>
>>> Your mere appearance, here,
>>
>> Just One thread has them all apoplectic! B^D
>>
>> I haven't been bothered with their sheltered workshop
>> for over 12 months, and popping in to commiserate on the
>> loss of the leader of their last atheist state seems to have made
>> them as hysterical with grief as their Nth Korean comrades.
>>
>> > sends the
>>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>>
>> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
>>> Who do the deviants fear more:
>>> Fasgnadh or Bill the Atheist Killer or
>>> Loirbaj or US4Z or All Seeing or Jahnu
>>> or Jon Young or Dave?
>>
>> I'm not interested in a competition to upset people.
>>
>> It just seems that talking about the real history of atheism
>> makes them all hysterical and in denial.
>>
>>> Your mere appearance, here,
>>
>> Just One thread has them all apoplectic! B^D
>>
>> I haven't been bothered with their sheltered workshop
>> for over 12 months, and popping in to commiserate on the
>> loss of the leader of their last atheist state seems to have made
>> them as hysterical with grief as their Nth Korean comrades.
>>
>> > sends the
>>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>>
>> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>> every atheist regime in history.
>
> Because, it didn't happen in the name of atheism, which is a fact you
> keep conveniently leaving out.
That's like saying the the Holocaust wasn't Anti-Semitism
>> every atheist regime in history.
>
> Because, it didn't happen in the name of atheism, which is a fact you
> keep conveniently leaving out.
because it wasn't carried out in the name of Anti-Semitism.. idiotic.
Besides, you are simply wrong, the Atheist state which
did all the terror, torture and mass murder EXPLICITLY
did it in the name of atheism;
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
fasgnadh
Jan 7, 2012, 9:47:33 AM1/7/12
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> news:tesMq.1280$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com
>>>>>> the great and enduring civilisations built by believers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheists enjoy the modern secular democratic states created
>>>>>> by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations in Europe, North America,
>>>>>> Australia and the rest of the world, but without an appropriate
>>>>>> sense of gratitude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And they have no shame about the series of failed totalitarian
>>>>>> shitholes which are the only atheist states in 70,000 years of
>>>>>> human history since Homo Sapiens emerged from Africa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when you observe their responses, in this and other threads,
>>>>>> you can see why atheism has never amounted to anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your mere appearance, here, sends the
Those atheists you defend by attacking my criticism of
their brutal totalitarian tyranny, are not my problem,
they're yours.
> You're relying on a bunch of political crazies to set
> your definitions.
All the atheist tyrants were crazies, all the atheist states
were insane, They don't set my definitions, they define the history
of atheism.
There are no other kinds of atheist states, not a single decent
democracy.. they were all totalitarian shitholes and they terrorised,
tortures and killed over 60,000,000 people.
It's not about 'definitions you immoral atheist maggott, it's about
the millions of victims whose blood is on the hands of the atheist
tyrants, and on yours for making yourself complicit by defending
the atheist killers.
> No atrocities were ever committed simply in the name of 'there is no god'.
That's like neo Nazis claiming "no atrocities were ever committed simply
in the name of Anti-Semitic hatred" .. that's because
murderous psychopaths are rarely honest and open about their evil deeds!
In the case of the atheist states the atrocities were EXPLICITLY
CARRIED OUT IN THE nAME OF **ATHEISM** and their leaders made clear:
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
“Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)
The schools inplemented the atheists policy of the FORCED
INDOCTRINATION OF CHILDREN, WITH ATHEISM and even science
was corrupted by their ideology:
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
The atheist tyranny removed free speech and other rights;
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
And the atheist state carried out the killings:
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
-John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
> They were all political / greed / power etc. related.
Sure, all the members of the atheist tyranny were greedy, political
power seekers.. and there is nothing in atheism that constrains
of forbids their actions!
At least when corrupt elements pervert religious groups
and carry out murder we can all see that such acts are
in CONTRAVENTION of the beliefs, ethical principles and
of the religion.
Atheism has none.
>> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
>> but of the entire atheist State apparatus;
>>
>
> Politics has a way of doing that to a nation.
Politics is just a description of how nations are governed..
In the modern secular democracies created by
majority religious people politics produces tolerance,
freedom, progress..
In EVERY atheist state, atheist politics produced terror
torture and death on a horrific scale.
When the atheist states destroyed themselves by their
bloody slaughter, repression and utter incompetence,
the people embraced freedom of belief, or speech and of thought..
The politics of tolerance and human rights...
> Its kind of like religion in that sense.
Wheras atheist states were kind of like Hell on Earth.
>> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
>>
>> "We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
>> WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him."
>> -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
>>
>> "Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
>> and God from Heaven!" (early Soviet slogan)
>>
>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>> - Daniel Peris,
>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>
>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
>>
>
> <snip to
Avoid all of the facts you can't refute,
run away little chicken...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0kPQiQufpE
>> On 3/01/2012 2:04 AM, Paul David Wright wrote:
>>> On 30/12/2011 11:55 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>> On 30/12/2011 11:55 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It never built a single free, open, democratic state, let alone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the great and enduring civilisations built by believers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheists enjoy the modern secular democratic states created
>>>>>> by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations in Europe, North America,
>>>>>> Australia and the rest of the world, but without an appropriate
>>>>>> sense of gratitude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And they have no shame about the series of failed totalitarian
>>>>>> shitholes which are the only atheist states in 70,000 years of
>>>>>> human history since Homo Sapiens emerged from Africa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And when you observe their responses, in this and other threads,
>>>>>> you can see why atheism has never amounted to anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your mere appearance, here, sends the
>>>>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
>>>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>> ...
>>>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>>
>>>> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>>>> every atheist regime in history.
>>>>
>>>> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>>>> every atheist regime in history.
>>>>
>>>> Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
>>>> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>>>
>>>> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>>>
>>> Because, it didn't happen in the name of atheism,
>>
>> Liar:
>>
>>
>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "We must combat religion"
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "Down with religion and long live atheism;
>> the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!"
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>
> There's your problem.
>> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "We must combat religion"
>> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "Down with religion and long live atheism;
>> the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!"
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>> "Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
>> - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
>>
>
Those atheists you defend by attacking my criticism of
their brutal totalitarian tyranny, are not my problem,
they're yours.
> You're relying on a bunch of political crazies to set
> your definitions.
All the atheist tyrants were crazies, all the atheist states
were insane, They don't set my definitions, they define the history
of atheism.
There are no other kinds of atheist states, not a single decent
democracy.. they were all totalitarian shitholes and they terrorised,
tortures and killed over 60,000,000 people.
It's not about 'definitions you immoral atheist maggott, it's about
the millions of victims whose blood is on the hands of the atheist
tyrants, and on yours for making yourself complicit by defending
the atheist killers.
> No atrocities were ever committed simply in the name of 'there is no god'.
That's like neo Nazis claiming "no atrocities were ever committed simply
in the name of Anti-Semitic hatred" .. that's because
murderous psychopaths are rarely honest and open about their evil deeds!
In the case of the atheist states the atrocities were EXPLICITLY
CARRIED OUT IN THE nAME OF **ATHEISM** and their leaders made clear:
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
Their media proclaimed the atheist war on believers;
- Lenin
“We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
“Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)
The schools inplemented the atheists policy of the FORCED
INDOCTRINATION OF CHILDREN, WITH ATHEISM and even science
was corrupted by their ideology:
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
The atheist tyranny removed free speech and other rights;
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
And the atheist state carried out the killings:
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
-John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
> They were all political / greed / power etc. related.
Sure, all the members of the atheist tyranny were greedy, political
power seekers.. and there is nothing in atheism that constrains
of forbids their actions!
At least when corrupt elements pervert religious groups
and carry out murder we can all see that such acts are
in CONTRAVENTION of the beliefs, ethical principles and
of the religion.
Atheism has none.
>> But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
>> but of the entire atheist State apparatus;
>>
>
> Politics has a way of doing that to a nation.
Politics is just a description of how nations are governed..
In the modern secular democracies created by
majority religious people politics produces tolerance,
freedom, progress..
In EVERY atheist state, atheist politics produced terror
torture and death on a horrific scale.
When the atheist states destroyed themselves by their
bloody slaughter, repression and utter incompetence,
the people embraced freedom of belief, or speech and of thought..
The politics of tolerance and human rights...
> Its kind of like religion in that sense.
Wheras atheist states were kind of like Hell on Earth.
>> The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
>> the Red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
>> every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
>> and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
>>
>> "We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
>> WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him."
>> -Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
>>
>> "Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
>> and God from Heaven!" (early Soviet slogan)
>>
>> "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
>> - Daniel Peris,
>> "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
>> Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
>>
>> "Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
>>
>
> <snip to
Avoid all of the facts you can't refute,
run away little chicken...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0kPQiQufpE
Doc Smartass
Jan 10, 2012, 2:11:15 PM1/10/12
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John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote in
news:4ugeg7trrmo88315n...@4ax.com:
He's not much fun, either.
news:4ugeg7trrmo88315n...@4ax.com:
Waldo Tunnel
Feb 20, 2012, 6:09:22 AM2/20/12
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On Feb 20, 1:40 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 8/01/2012 9:35 PM, Budikka wrote:
> > On 8/01/2012 1:47 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >> On 5/01/2012 1:53 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> >>> "fasgnadh"<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>>>>> Global atheism suffered it's latest setback with the loss of
> >>>>>>>> yet another atheist despot - Kim Jong ill - quickly replaced by his
> >>>>>>>> equally absurd, but aptly named offspring, Kim Wrong'un.
>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.maxbrockbank.com/lets-talk-about-me/wp-content/uploads/201...
>
> >>>>>>>> Only atheists could ignore the rational wisdom revealed by Abraham, Job,
> >>>>>>>> Isiah, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and all the other spiritual
> >>>>>>>> guides and founders of our modern global civilisation,
> >>>>>>>> and follow these ridiculous atheist dimwits and demagogues! B^D
>
> >>>>>>>> In a sickening display of the mindless idolatry practised by
> >>>>>>>> every one of the atheist tyrannies that have plagued the planet
> >>>>>>>> in the previous century, hysterical zombies acted out the brain-dead
> >>>>>>>> ritual grief so typical of totalitarian regimes that espouse atheistic
> >>>>>>>> materialism.
>
> >>>>>>>> "North Korea's government exercises virtual total control
> >>>>>>>> over society and imposes state sanctioned atheism"
>
> >>>>>>>> -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
>
> >>>>>>>> All around the globe, people who value freedom of thought, speech and
> >>>>>>>> belief blithely ignored the passing of just another atheist tyrant..
>
> >>>>>>>>http://p.twimg.com/AhXbU1uCEAA919Q.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "God is Dead" - Nietzsche, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim ill Fuk
>
> >>>>>>>>http://urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/body-of-north-korean-leader-kim-jon...
>
> >>>>>>>> "Kim is Dead" - God B^D
>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3740852-3x2-700x467.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "Mao is Dead" - God
>
> >>>>>>>>http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2006/05/07/mn_death.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "Lenin is Dead" - God
>
> >>>>>>>>http://quotationsbook.com/assets/shared/img/6905/Stalin_casket.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "Stalin is Dead" - God
>
> >>>>>>>> .. and the last atheist regime is moribund and in terminal decline.
>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3740852-3x2-700x467.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> Atheism is a feeble joke.
> about ATHEISM.. they cannot face the HORRORS of atheist history!
Well let me try. Are you claiming that "the HORRORS of atheist
history" were due to the absence of theism?
[...]
CARRIED OUT IN THE NAME OF **ATHEISM." You do care about accuracy,
right?
>
<Unreferenced quotes deleted>
[...]
Isn't there any other part of the matzo you can eat? -- Marilyn Monroe
> On 8/01/2012 9:35 PM, Budikka wrote:
> > On 8/01/2012 1:47 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >> On 5/01/2012 1:53 PM, Andrew W wrote:
> >>>news:tesMq.1280$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com
> >>>> On 3/01/2012 2:04 AM, Paul David Wright wrote:
> >>>>> On 30/12/2011 11:55 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >>>>>> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 28/12/2011 7:47 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >>>> On 3/01/2012 2:04 AM, Paul David Wright wrote:
> >>>>> On 30/12/2011 11:55 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >>>>>> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Global atheism suffered it's latest setback with the loss of
> >>>>>>>> yet another atheist despot - Kim Jong ill - quickly replaced by his
> >>>>>>>> equally absurd, but aptly named offspring, Kim Wrong'un.
>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.maxbrockbank.com/lets-talk-about-me/wp-content/uploads/201...
>
> >>>>>>>> Only atheists could ignore the rational wisdom revealed by Abraham, Job,
> >>>>>>>> Isiah, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, and all the other spiritual
> >>>>>>>> guides and founders of our modern global civilisation,
> >>>>>>>> and follow these ridiculous atheist dimwits and demagogues! B^D
>
> >>>>>>>> In a sickening display of the mindless idolatry practised by
> >>>>>>>> every one of the atheist tyrannies that have plagued the planet
> >>>>>>>> in the previous century, hysterical zombies acted out the brain-dead
> >>>>>>>> ritual grief so typical of totalitarian regimes that espouse atheistic
> >>>>>>>> materialism.
>
> >>>>>>>> "North Korea's government exercises virtual total control
> >>>>>>>> over society and imposes state sanctioned atheism"
>
> >>>>>>>> -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
>
> >>>>>>>> All around the globe, people who value freedom of thought, speech and
> >>>>>>>> belief blithely ignored the passing of just another atheist tyrant..
>
> >>>>>>>>http://p.twimg.com/AhXbU1uCEAA919Q.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "God is Dead" - Nietzsche, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim ill Fuk
>
> >>>>>>>>http://urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/body-of-north-korean-leader-kim-jon...
>
> >>>>>>>> "Kim is Dead" - God B^D
>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3740852-3x2-700x467.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "Mao is Dead" - God
>
> >>>>>>>>http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2006/05/07/mn_death.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "Lenin is Dead" - God
>
> >>>>>>>>http://quotationsbook.com/assets/shared/img/6905/Stalin_casket.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> "Stalin is Dead" - God
>
> >>>>>>>> .. and the last atheist regime is moribund and in terminal decline.
>
> >>>>>>>>http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3740852-3x2-700x467.jpg
>
> >>>>>>>> Atheism is a feeble joke.
>
> >>>>>>>> It never built a single free, open, democratic state, let alone
> >>>>>>>> the great and enduring civilisations built by believers.
>
> >>>>>>>> Atheists enjoy the modern secular democratic states created
> >>>>>>>> by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations in Europe, North America,
> >>>>>>>> Australia and the rest of the world, but without an appropriate
> >>>>>>>> sense of gratitude.
>
> >>>>>>>> And they have no shame about the series of failed totalitarian
> >>>>>>>> shitholes which are the only atheist states in 70,000 years of
> >>>>>>>> human history since Homo Sapiens emerged from Africa.
>
> >>>>>>>> And when you observe their responses, in this and other threads,
> >>>>>>>> you can see why atheism has never amounted to anything.
>
> >>>>>>> Your mere appearance, here, sends the
> >>>>>>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
> >>>>>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
> >>>> ...
>
> >>>>>> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
> >>>>>> every atheist regime in history.
>
> >>>>>> Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
> >>>>>> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>
> They will change the subject to ANYTHING to try and avoid talking
> >>>>>>>> It never built a single free, open, democratic state, let alone
> >>>>>>>> the great and enduring civilisations built by believers.
>
> >>>>>>>> Atheists enjoy the modern secular democratic states created
> >>>>>>>> by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations in Europe, North America,
> >>>>>>>> Australia and the rest of the world, but without an appropriate
> >>>>>>>> sense of gratitude.
>
> >>>>>>>> And they have no shame about the series of failed totalitarian
> >>>>>>>> shitholes which are the only atheist states in 70,000 years of
> >>>>>>>> human history since Homo Sapiens emerged from Africa.
>
> >>>>>>>> And when you observe their responses, in this and other threads,
> >>>>>>>> you can see why atheism has never amounted to anything.
>
> >>>>>>> Your mere appearance, here, sends the
> >>>>>>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
> >>>>>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
> >>>> ...
>
> >>>>>> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
> >>>>>> every atheist regime in history.
>
> >>>>>> Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
> >>>>>> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>
> about ATHEISM.. they cannot face the HORRORS of atheist history!
Well let me try. Are you claiming that "the HORRORS of atheist
history" were due to the absence of theism?
[...]
>
> >> In the case of the atheist states the atrocities were EXPLICITLY
> >> CARRIED OUT IN THE NAME OF **ATHEISM** and their leaders made clear:
> >> In the case of the atheist states the atrocities were EXPLICITLY
>
> >> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
> >> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
Whoa! That doesn't demonstrate your claim "atrocities were EXPLICITLY
> >> "Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
> >> -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
CARRIED OUT IN THE NAME OF **ATHEISM." You do care about accuracy,
right?
>
<Unreferenced quotes deleted>
[...]
Isn't there any other part of the matzo you can eat? -- Marilyn Monroe
fasgnadh
Feb 20, 2012, 4:23:41 PM2/20/12
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of atheist history.. THE FIRST TO DO SO! 8^o
> Are you claiming that "the HORRORS of atheist
> history" were due to the absence of theism?
I thank you for doing so.
> [...]
Let the discussion on what went wrong with every atheist regime
in history begin.
--
---------
Atheists are in retreat:
Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
# "It’s very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being
# - Richard Dawkins
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
When did that happen? where? How many 'came into being'?
Do they have names?
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?!??
..Atheist activist Bukakke has built an Atheist altar to worship them;
# From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
# Subject: Disapproving Creation:
# Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID:
<b5430732-e52e-45b5...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
#
#> come worshiping at the altar of atheism,
...and national atheist bodies have formally applied to be recognised
as a religion:
# It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
#
#
# "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
# of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
#
# "atheism counts as a religion, Dr Perkins said."
# The Age 29/1/2009
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alt.atheism FAQ:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
Vurgil
Feb 20, 2012, 5:57:08 PM2/20/12
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In article <lRy0r.3247$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
While there is the evidence of our senses that the universe around us
exists, there is no evidence that any intelligence was required to bring
it into existence.
The only intelligences that we can observe directly seem to have evolved
into existence because they give their possessors an evolutionary edge
in the evolutionary ratrace.
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
While there is the evidence of our senses that the universe around us
exists, there is no evidence that any intelligence was required to bring
it into existence.
The only intelligences that we can observe directly seem to have evolved
into existence because they give their possessors an evolutionary edge
in the evolutionary ratrace.
Waldo Tunnel
Feb 20, 2012, 6:10:36 PM2/20/12
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would provoke this genocide you blame atheism for?
Or is that not a terribly important question when accusing a group of
80,000,000 deaths?
fasgnadh
Feb 21, 2012, 2:27:48 AM2/21/12
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Waldo Tunnelwants others to explain why atheist regimes are horrible:
> On 21/02/2012 8:23 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Waldo Tunnel asked what caused the horrors of atheist regimes :
history" were due to particular factors.
As we both agree about the horrors of atheist history,
why do you think the onus should be on a non-atheist
to explain why?
Surely it is the responsibility of Nazis to explain why
the Nazi holocaust occurred, and it is the responsibility of
atheists to explain why EVERY atheist regime has, as you acknowledge,
revealed "the HORRORS of atheist history"!!!
But it seems the atheists don't trust themselves to deal with
what is THEIR problem; explaining WHY all their atheist regimes
have been brutal bloody, catastrophic cluster fucks of terror,
torture, despair and death!!!
They ask someone with more insight and understanding, a non-atheist,
to explain what went wrong with atheism, EVERY time it was tried;
> then what is it about atheism that
> would provoke this genocide you blame atheism for?
You would have to start with examining the HATE atheism generates,
not just personified by all those atheist tyrants, but the modern
atheist leaders as well:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
If it was just one individual we would write them off
as a violent, psycho-sexual Sociopath.. but he's the
SpokesOrk for BAAWA! The Usenet atheists SUPPORT him
and attack those of us who criticise his violent hate speech!
Frankly, I'm amazed you can't see the contrast between that
and normal people.
Not satisfied with murder, the atheist's WARLORD, Steve,
advocates GENOCIDE, the slaughter of every Muslim man, woman and
child with Weapons of Mass Destruction:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
If you can explain why the atheists in Usenet support that
hate filled, genocidal atheist psychopath, you might have a clue
as to it's history of mass murder being CARRIED OUT in reality!!!!
8^o
You would also have to examine the moral vacuum created by atheism...
with no redeeming message of tolerance, love, forgiveness, compassion
or any other spiritual values (honesty, integrity, courage,
as we both agree, those things are completely missing in
the atheist shitholes; The Union of Savage Slaughter and
Repression(USSR), Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural Devolution,
Pol Pots Year Zero and Nth Korea.
> Or is that not a terribly important question when accusing a group of
> 80,000,000 deaths?
It's terribly important to atheists, they have to account for
the historical horrors atheist states are responsible for.
I'm happy to help but it's ATHEISM's holocaust to analyse
and make sure it can't happen again, and most of you are clearly
no different to the Nazi holocaust deniers!
These godless ideologies of the 20th century apocalypses
have the same philosophical roots: Arrogance hubris and
intolerance.. which are daily manifested in alt.atheism.
When Nietzsche declared "God is Dead" he elaborated
"...in the hearts of mankind". People only remember
the catchy 3 word quote, they don't know about what he said the
CONSEQUENCES would be! 8^o
What people forget is the warnings he gave.. that without God,
man becomes the measure of all things,
and Nietzsche predicted that mankind would become UNCONSTRAINED,
BESTIAL.. that the would would be engulfed in catastrophe.
Remember, this AUTHOR of das Ubermensch.. The Superman, was
a secularist, not a theist.. but his dire warning came true,
fulfilled in the horrors of the ideological slaughters
of the 20th century.. Nazism, Imperialism, Uber-Nationalism,
Colonialism, Racism, Fascism... and the deadliest of all;
ATHEISTIC COMMUNISM
..far worse than anything the world has ever witnessed before.
People need to think carefully before they tear down the
moral strictures developed over centuries.
There are good reasons for critiquing Religious orthodoxies and
their associated power structures (typically male, hierarchical,
paternalistic) but we should be careful about throwing the spiritual
baby, the teachings about love, compassion, courage, honesty, hope,
gentleness.. with the religious bathwater.. priests and Imams
and clerics with more than one foot in the temporal kingdom.
Of course these reflections are only offered because you asked me
for some insights into what went wrong with atheism.
Most people already understand what I'm talking about and reject
atheism, even if they are not particularly 'religious'..
and that, perhaps, should be your starting point.. why do even
the other non-believers distrust and reject atheism, because
religion is in the ascendant, and atheism in relative decline;
# Atheists Identified as America’s Most Distrusted Minority"
# - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# found that atheists are “America’s most distrusted minority.”
#
# "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# other minority groups in “sharing their vision of
# American society.”
#
# Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
# they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# by a large portion of the American public.
#
# Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with
# an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
#
# Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# social disorder is behind the findings.
# “Americans believe they share more than rules and
# procedures with their fellow citizens—they share an
# understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our
# findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# with the common good.”
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm
> On 21/02/2012 8:23 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Waldo Tunnel asked what caused the horrors of atheist regimes :
>> I thank you for doing so.
>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Let the discussion on what went wrong with every atheist regime
>> in history begin.
>
>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> Let the discussion on what went wrong with every atheist regime
>> in history begin.
>
> If you claim the cause is atheism
You asked me if "the HORRORS of atheist
history" were due to particular factors.
As we both agree about the horrors of atheist history,
why do you think the onus should be on a non-atheist
to explain why?
Surely it is the responsibility of Nazis to explain why
the Nazi holocaust occurred, and it is the responsibility of
atheists to explain why EVERY atheist regime has, as you acknowledge,
revealed "the HORRORS of atheist history"!!!
But it seems the atheists don't trust themselves to deal with
what is THEIR problem; explaining WHY all their atheist regimes
have been brutal bloody, catastrophic cluster fucks of terror,
torture, despair and death!!!
They ask someone with more insight and understanding, a non-atheist,
to explain what went wrong with atheism, EVERY time it was tried;
> then what is it about atheism that
> would provoke this genocide you blame atheism for?
not just personified by all those atheist tyrants, but the modern
atheist leaders as well:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
If it was just one individual we would write them off
as a violent, psycho-sexual Sociopath.. but he's the
SpokesOrk for BAAWA! The Usenet atheists SUPPORT him
and attack those of us who criticise his violent hate speech!
Frankly, I'm amazed you can't see the contrast between that
and normal people.
Not satisfied with murder, the atheist's WARLORD, Steve,
advocates GENOCIDE, the slaughter of every Muslim man, woman and
child with Weapons of Mass Destruction:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
If you can explain why the atheists in Usenet support that
hate filled, genocidal atheist psychopath, you might have a clue
as to it's history of mass murder being CARRIED OUT in reality!!!!
8^o
You would also have to examine the moral vacuum created by atheism...
with no redeeming message of tolerance, love, forgiveness, compassion
or any other spiritual values (honesty, integrity, courage,
as we both agree, those things are completely missing in
the atheist shitholes; The Union of Savage Slaughter and
Repression(USSR), Mao's Great Leap Backward and Cultural Devolution,
Pol Pots Year Zero and Nth Korea.
> Or is that not a terribly important question when accusing a group of
> 80,000,000 deaths?
the historical horrors atheist states are responsible for.
I'm happy to help but it's ATHEISM's holocaust to analyse
and make sure it can't happen again, and most of you are clearly
no different to the Nazi holocaust deniers!
These godless ideologies of the 20th century apocalypses
have the same philosophical roots: Arrogance hubris and
intolerance.. which are daily manifested in alt.atheism.
When Nietzsche declared "God is Dead" he elaborated
"...in the hearts of mankind". People only remember
the catchy 3 word quote, they don't know about what he said the
CONSEQUENCES would be! 8^o
What people forget is the warnings he gave.. that without God,
man becomes the measure of all things,
and Nietzsche predicted that mankind would become UNCONSTRAINED,
BESTIAL.. that the would would be engulfed in catastrophe.
Remember, this AUTHOR of das Ubermensch.. The Superman, was
a secularist, not a theist.. but his dire warning came true,
fulfilled in the horrors of the ideological slaughters
of the 20th century.. Nazism, Imperialism, Uber-Nationalism,
Colonialism, Racism, Fascism... and the deadliest of all;
ATHEISTIC COMMUNISM
..far worse than anything the world has ever witnessed before.
People need to think carefully before they tear down the
moral strictures developed over centuries.
There are good reasons for critiquing Religious orthodoxies and
their associated power structures (typically male, hierarchical,
paternalistic) but we should be careful about throwing the spiritual
baby, the teachings about love, compassion, courage, honesty, hope,
gentleness.. with the religious bathwater.. priests and Imams
and clerics with more than one foot in the temporal kingdom.
Of course these reflections are only offered because you asked me
for some insights into what went wrong with atheism.
Most people already understand what I'm talking about and reject
atheism, even if they are not particularly 'religious'..
and that, perhaps, should be your starting point.. why do even
the other non-believers distrust and reject atheism, because
religion is in the ascendant, and atheism in relative decline;
# Atheists Identified as America’s Most Distrusted Minority"
# - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# found that atheists are “America’s most distrusted minority.”
#
# "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# other minority groups in “sharing their vision of
# American society.”
#
# Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
# they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# by a large portion of the American public.
#
# Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with
# an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
#
# Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# social disorder is behind the findings.
# “Americans believe they share more than rules and
# procedures with their fellow citizens—they share an
# understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our
# findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# with the common good.”
"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.
So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.
People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"
- Dr Reza Aslan
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm
Waldo Tunnel
Feb 22, 2012, 2:20:41 AM2/22/12
to
On Feb 20, 11:27 pm, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Waldo Tunnelwants others to explain why atheist regimes are horrible:
>
I'm going to deal with this in the other thread.
> Waldo Tunnelwants others to explain why atheist regimes are horrible:
>
fasgnadh
Feb 22, 2012, 6:17:27 AM2/22/12
to
Waldo Tunnel snips, lies and runs, just like Bukakke:
> On 21/02/2012 6:27 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Waldo Tunnelwants others to explain why atheist regimes are horrible:
>> Waldo Tunnelwants others to explain why atheist regimes are horrible:
> I'm going to deal with this in the other thread.
And that's the last we see of another atheist Snip'n'Run liar!
Waldo Tunnel
Feb 22, 2012, 7:28:00 AM2/22/12
to
On Feb 22, 3:17 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Waldo Tunnel snips, lies and runs, just like Bukakke:
Huh? My goodness. You seem to have an arms length relationship with
> Waldo Tunnel snips, lies and runs, just like Bukakke:
the truth.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.philosophy/msg/32b45ce066bd9ca6?hl=en&dmode=source
Waldo Tunnel
Feb 22, 2012, 2:59:58 PM2/22/12
to
On Feb 22, 3:17 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Waldo Tunnel exposes fasgnadh's intellectual dishonesty:
>
> > On 21/02/2012 6:27 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >> Waldo Tunnelwants others to explain why atheist regimes are horrible:
> >>> On 21/02/2012 8:23 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >>>> Waldo Tunnel asked what caused the horrors of atheist regimes :
> >>>>> On Feb 20, 1:40 am, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/01/2012 9:35 PM, Budikka wrote:
[...]
> > On 21/02/2012 6:27 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >> Waldo Tunnelwants others to explain why atheist regimes are horrible:
> >>> On 21/02/2012 8:23 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
> >>>> Waldo Tunnel asked what caused the horrors of atheist regimes :
> >>>>> On Feb 20, 1:40 am, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 8/01/2012 9:35 PM, Budikka wrote:
>
> > I'm going to deal with this in the other thread.
>
> And that's the last we see of another atheist Snip'n'Run liar!
John Baker
Feb 23, 2012, 4:37:36 PM2/23/12
to
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:28:00 -0800 (PST), Waldo Tunnel
<waldo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 22, 3:17 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Waldo Tunnel snips, lies and runs, just like Bukakke:
>
>
>Huh? My goodness. You seem to have an arms length relationship with
>the truth.
He's never been anywhere near that close to it.
<waldo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 22, 3:17 am, fasgnadh <fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Waldo Tunnel snips, lies and runs, just like Bukakke:
>
>
>Huh? My goodness. You seem to have an arms length relationship with
>the truth.
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.philosophy/msg/32b45ce066bd9ca6?hl=en&dmode=source
Vurgil
Feb 25, 2012, 9:42:10 PM2/25/12
to
In article <QJf2r.3661$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
fasgnadh runs from EVERY question, ignores the evidence and lies:
AS when he claimed Dawkins claimed gods existed, which is disproved by
the actual conversation:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. łProbably not.˛ He smiles and adds ,
łBut I wouldnąt want to be too dogmatic about that.˛
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
fasgnadh runs from EVERY question, ignores the evidence and lies:
AS when he claimed Dawkins claimed gods existed, which is disproved by
the actual conversation:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. łProbably not.˛ He smiles and adds ,
łBut I wouldnąt want to be too dogmatic about that.˛
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Vurgil
Feb 26, 2012, 4:11:44 AM2/26/12
to
In article <9ql2r.3680$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 26/02/2012 1:44 PM, Vurgil wrote:
> > In article<rag2r.3667$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
> > fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Vurgil's quotes are now VERBATIM
>
> Liar
Not according to the unedited conversation:
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 26/02/2012 1:44 PM, Vurgil wrote:
> > In article<rag2r.3667$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
> > fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Vurgil's quotes are now VERBATIM
> >>>
> >>>> Atheists are in retreat:
> >>>>
> >>>> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist
> >
> > Only in the distant future and after evolving.
> >>>> Atheists are in retreat:
> >>>>
> >>>> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist
> >
>
> Liar
Not according to the unedited conversation:
Vurgil
Feb 26, 2012, 4:18:30 AM2/26/12
to
In article <Awl2r.3493$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ---------
>
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
> # came into being......
> #
The full sentence says
# łItąs very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression of
# incremental evolution.˛
as one may see below and at
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
So all gods are evolved creatures, according to Dawkins.
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ---------
>
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
> # came into being......
> #
The full sentence says
# łItąs very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being by an explicable scientific progression of
# incremental evolution.˛
as one may see below and at
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
So all gods are evolved creatures, according to Dawkins.
fasgnadh
Mar 9, 2012, 8:21:37 AM3/9/12
to
On 27/02/2012 1:36 AM, Budikka666 wrote:
> On Feb 25, 7:16 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Budikka666 runs from EVERY question, ignores the evidence and lies:
# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.christian.religion,alt.christnet.christianlife,
# alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
# alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
# Subject: Bukakke fails to "Disprove Creation" - actually CREATES a
post PROVING
# she lies!!! . B^D gutless liar CHICKENSHIT Bukakke RUNS AWAY
AGAIN,
# As Predicted!
# Message-ID: <QJf2r.3661$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
# Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:16:24 +1100
> Budikka666 runs from EVERY question, ignores the evidence and lies:
>> On Feb 20, 3:18 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I provide COPIOUS evidence that CREATION occurs
all around us.. Bukakke provides NO EVIDENCE at ALL
for her claim, and even avoids the clear challenge to do so:
>>>>> You mean like yours for 'Disproving Creation.'?
"Disproving Creation" is BUKAKKE'S Claim.
She has no evidence that creation does not happen.
He own CREATED POST shows that it has.
Q.E.D.
Now watch the lying, gutless bitch avoid
EVERY QUESTION that mocks her IGNORANCE of science,
EVERY piece of EVIDENCE that CREATION is ubiquitous!
Run Little Chicken shit atheist LIAR, RUN! B^D
Nothing left to but MOCK the gutless coward as they RUN!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0kPQiQufpE
>>>>> I see things being created every day, my nephew created
>>>>> a finger painting at Kinder today.. other people created delicious
>>>>> meals, new babies, fashion designs, architectural plans.
Bukakke is as ignorant of creation as of everything else in science;
>>>> Hey fasgnadh -
>>>
>>> Yes Bukakke, now you want to talk to me?
>>> After all your rude and insolent ad hom slander and lies?
>>>
>>> Ah well, I can be magnanimous in victory.. what do you want, bitch?
>>>
>>>> if you can get over your adolescent sexual urges,
>>>
>>> Ah, my 'sexual urges' are part of my participation in Creation, you
>>> poor sexless drone, and they are not confined to adolescence! B^D
It was cruel of me to remind Bukakke of the most common form of CREATION
humans engage in, procreative sex.. (or lots of PRACTICE with
contraception to PREVENT CREATION!!! ;-), both of which which no one
wants to do with Bukakke, apparently, as they haven't heard of it!
8^o
How sad, to be uncreative in so many ways! B^]
>>> One of the great religious traditions is Tantric sex, pleasure can be
>>> prolonged at will, and procreation ensures my DNA propagates into the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> Are you really so ignorant of Creation in all it's wonders?
>>>
>>> How sad for you.
>>>
>>>>> You can't DISPROVE CREATION you IDIOTIC ATHEIST LIAR!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>>
>>>>> At least it's not as silly as the thread where you wrote "Disapproving
>>>>> Creation"!
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly you hate SEX! B^D
>>>
>>> and now you berate me for HAVING IT!
>>>
>>> Are you jealous, or just a dried up, sexless atheist puritan?
Bukakke's silence says everything! B^]
>>> That would explain the rabid shrieking in all your posts, you mad
>>> harridan!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA
>>>
>>>> and since you've raised the topic,
>>>
>>> I am always raising topics that atheists and others are interested in,
>>> and yet your Kook-sucker atheist cronies slander me with claims that
>>> my posts are all the same.. or too long, or any other BULLSHIT excuse
>>> you weak gutless intellectual bankrupts can fabricate to cover up your
>>> inability to debate me. B^}
>>>
>>> And now, having run from so many subjects where I have eviscerated
>>> your nonsense, you want me to waste time on you again? B^p
Note.. I PREDICTED that as soon as I presented my argument,
CHICKENSHIT Bukakke would FOLD AND RUN AWAY **AGAIN**
and they have!
>>> Sure, I don't mind publicly humiliating you once more, even though we
>>> all know you will SNIP and ignore my argument, fail to answer any
>>> questions put to you, RUN AWAY and try to CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
I not only call my OWN shots.. I have the predictive
capacity to CALL BUKAKKE's!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA
>>> My conditions are that you answer questions put to you,
Bukakke FAILED to do so. Bukakke concedes the argument
>>> that you don't snip my posts, or the newsgroups,
>>> that you don't try and change the subject, say to "Creationsism"
>>> (Creation Science(sic)) which has already been disproved,
Bukakke FAILED! See below, Bukakke attempts to do just that!
>>> and that you don't project your prejudices and obsessions
>>> onto me.. ie, create (snicker) your usual STRAWMAN arguments
>>> and then debate your fabrication as if it was mine.
And That is precisely what the gutless LYING LOSER tried!
TOTAL VICTORY IS MINE..
The useless Bitch is not just defeated but HUMILIATED by the most
formidable critic atheism has ever faced!
I have their CHUMPION's head on a PIKE!
B^]
Sweet Victory!
Watch Bukakke the slithering shitpig squirm away:
EXACTLY AS I PREDICTED THEY WOULD! B^]
>>> Break these and the discussion with you is over ( I reserve
>>> the right to mock you mercilessly ;-) .
>>>
>>> Game on.
>>>
Game over.. ALREADY.. The Atheist Harradin's Head hangs over my mantle
piece!
#############################################################################
#
# >>>> why don't you and we discuss creation
#
# Is Everyone clear on the discussion topic proposed by BUKAKKE!? B^]
#
# creation.. not even capitalised.
# and CERTAINLY NOT "Creation Science"(sic) or "CREATIONISM"
# which are entirely different, (but which Bukakke appears to
# be very confused about!
#
# B^]
#
###########################################################################
>>> I am already discussing Creation, you are welcome to join me.
>>> Usenet is an OPEN forum, quite unlike the atheist tyrannies,
>>> or what the BAAWA thugs and Kook-Sucker Net Nannies would like
>>> to make it.
>>>
>>> As I have pointed out, when I found you claiming you are "Disproving
>>> Creation", ..you can't.
>>>
>>> I created this post. Disprove that! B^]
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has FAILED to disprove creation, I have created!
>>> I believe you have lost the argument with the first shot.
>>>
>>> I claim victory.
Q.E.D.
>>> Further evidence, just so it's on the record:
>>>
>>> I have co-created living beings, via the act called proCREATION,
>>> which apparently you have not only not tried, but haven't even
>>> heard about! 8^o Your ignorance is appalling!
>>>
>>> Every second, plants create new cells, the sun creates massive
>>> amounts of energy, people create poems, songs, spreadsheets..
>>> whole civilisations, unless they create atheist regimes, which
>>> are all totalitarian tyrannies and kill millions of people..
>>> Destruction.. the very opposite to Creation.. (unless you
>>> argue they Create Chaos, Disorder, Despair and Death.. but
>>> then you would be conceding that you can't 'Disprove Creation' ;-)
>>>
>>> all of this is unknown to you?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>>> Do you live in a hat-box, with the lid nailed down?
>>>
>>>> vs. evolution right here in this thread?
>>>
>>> I am happy to extend the discussion about creation to evolution,
>>> after all the creation of new species occurs via evolution.
>>>
>>> So, your notion that it's creation vrs evolution, is absurd,
>>> they are part of the same holistic reality.
>>>
>>> It is the creation of new individuals, with the chance of random
>>> mutations, which allows Natural selection to determine that the
>>> more useful mutations survive and prosper, and the species evolves.
>>>
>>> Humans have introduced the possibility of CONTROLLED evolution,
>>> selective breeding to create desired traits in animals and plants..
>>>
>>> and through partner selection.. in humans.
>>>
>>> That is why, apparently, you remain ignorant of sex and proCREATION,
>>> no one wants to pollute the gene pool by allowing you to swim in it.
>>>
>>> 8..(
>>>
>>>>> Do you perhaps mean Disproving CreationISM?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
It is now clear that Bukakke has run away from the debate on creation
AND on Evolution
>>>>> But that's already been done.. by John Shelby Spong for example,
>>>>> ages ago!
>>>
>>> You really should READ my posts, before replying to them,
>>> you would look a lot less stupid then.
>>>
>>>> You've now asserted that wes ee creation all around us.
>>>
>>> Sure. I see this post you have created.
Wow, Bukakke sure shut up quick after I presented the undeniable
evidence for creation!
B^D
> No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>
>>> I'm holding a glass created by persons unknown to me.
>>>
>>> On the wall are photos of the children I co-created.
>>>
>>> Sunlight creates ever changing patterns of refraction on
>>> the ocean floor when I go snorkelling..
>>>
>>> I drive down roads created by this civilisation past trees
>>> created by other trees and animals created by other animals.
>>>
>>> It's all around us.
>
> Bukakke IGNORES the evidence proving creation!
>
> Bukakke has lost the argument, over and over and over!!!!
>
> B^]
>
>
>>>> We're calling you out to support that
>>>> assertion.
>>>
>>> I created this answer to your challenge.
>>>
>>> Q.E.D.
>>>
>>> You haven't disproven creation, as YOU claimed.
Now here we have one of the unproven, FALSE assumptions
which led Bukakke into ERROR, based on NOTHING but her IGNORANT,
UNINFORMED, STUPID and COMPLETELY WRONG ***BELIEF***
>>>>Clearly you believe there's a creator
Clearly you are a liar, projecting your BELIEFS onto ME!
Sure parents are creators (note, 2, not 1) but
crystals just grow, you clueless, ignorant fuckwit!
>>> Sure, I know who created the answer to your challenge.. me!
But that doesn't mean I believe, as YOU just claimed,
that all creation is the result of Intelligent Design.
Light creates a shadow.. that is no more 'intelligent'
than YOU!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAA
Bukakke is no scientist, not rational, not even intelligent..
and yet, like crystals they can create new forms - posts in your case,
APPARENTLY WITHOUT INTELLIGENCE! B^D
Bukakke is a LIAR who makes FALSE claims about OTHERS and then DEBATES
BUKAKKE's OWN **STRAWMAN BULLSHIT, instead of what I ACTUALLY SAY.
when ALL the EVIDENCE shows that creation is real and happens!!!
Bukakke is misled by UNFOUNDED BELIEFS which are as wrong as the
claim that creation is 'disproven' pfffft!
>>> Who the fuck do YOU think you are talking to?
>>> Voices in your head? B^D
That is what Bukakke is listening to, and debating.. 8^o
not MY claim, that creation is real and Bukakke is lying
to claim to have DISPROVEN it!
>>> Hallucinations caused by repressed sexual tensions?
>>>
>>> God? B^D
After all, Bukakke the pretend atheist has built an ALTAR
to worship Dawkin's God;
# From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
# Subject: Disapproving Creation:
# Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID:
<b5430732-e52e-45b5...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
#
#> come worshiping at the altar of atheism
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHA
Bukakke appears to have gone quite mad! B^D
>
>>> Creation is the central BIOLOGICAL ACT.
>>>
>>> You can't disprove it, you mad atheist bigot!
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>>> It's a LAW of NATURE! B^D
>>>
>>> All YOU can do is NOT PARTICIPATE in it!
>>>
>>>> - let's see what evidence you can supply for it.
>>>
>>> "I POST, THEREFORE I AM"
>>>
>>> Q.E.D.
>>>
>>> Give us your ALTERNATIVE explanation for how an ANSWER
>>> to your question was created, unless I, the one claiming
>>> to be it's creator, exist.
>>>
>>> .....................................................
>>>
>>> .....................................................
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has abandoned the argument, knowing they have LOST IT!
>>>> You go ahead and post one item of *positive* *scientific* evidence for
>>>> a creation
>>>
>>> My post.
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>>> or for a creator
>>>
>>> Me.
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>> Do you need photographs? Birth Certificate?
>>>
>>> Are you really as stupid as your posts suggest?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>>> as established by publication in a
>>>> refereed professional science journal,
>>>
>>> So you can't accept observational evidence of what
>>> is clearly manifest before you!?
>>>
>>> Wow, no wonder you are so ignorant?
>>> How did you ever learn to WALK?
>
>
> No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>
> Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
>
> I win. B^]
>
>
>>> Ok, in that case, use as evidence
>>>
>>> Cogito ergo sum
>>>
>>> "I think therefore I am" created by Rene Descarte.
>>>
>>> You can google numerous references confirming that he CREATED that quote.
>>>
>>> Are we done here?
BUKAKKE SURE IS DONE! like a DINNER!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>> You are clearly a deeply confused individual, with
>>> a perception of the material world not far from
>>> Kaspar Hauser, or any sub epsilon moron.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enigma_of_Kaspar_Hauser
>>>
>>>> and I will post one such item
>>>> for abiogenesis or for evolution,
>>>
>>> WHATEVER you post, will be creation of new argument,
>>> and further PROOF of creation per se, not Disproving
>>> Creation, as you have claimed.
Bukakke didn't post any evidence of 'Disproving creation' AT ALL!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bukakke has COMPLETELY QUIT, FLED, ABANDONED THE ARGUMENT, RUN AWAY!!!
>>> cadit quaetio
>>>
>>>> and we will continue in that fashion
>>>> and see who runs out first.
I have posted numerous proofs that creation happens,
Bukakke has posted NOTHING 'Disproving Creation'
>>> Go ahead, I'll wait.
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>>> [I've restricted the news groups to the standard three to which I've
>>>> been posting the 'Disproving Creation' series
>>>
>>> What a facile argument.. YOU are posting in MY thread
>>> and have changed the subject and the NGS! 8^o
>>>
>>> Get fucked, you ridiculous blowhard! B^D
>>>
>>> I have added additional relevant NGs to
>>> restore what you snipped.. Surely you are not afraid of
>>> a larger audience for your ritual humiliation?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>> B^]
>>> And now the argument is over! You lost.
>>>
>>> Unable to "Disprove Creation" because, clearly, things are created.
>>>
>>> A Splendid mornings work! Time for breakfast!
>>>
>>> I will leave you to gnash your teeth in impotent rage
>>> at the fastest defeat in Usenet history.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day, Bukakke.
>>>
>>> Make sure you continue your mad determination to NEVER CREATE
>>> anything original interesting or intelligent.. clearly that's
>>> why you chose to be an atheist!
>>>
>>> B^D
>>>
>>>> BTW, you're evidently not smart enough to grasp that our series is
>>>> called "Disproving Creation" for very good reasons.
>>>
>>> Lying to people is never good and certainly not 'reason', Bukakke! B^[
>>>
>>>> The first is that it's an ongoing process
>>>
>>> So you admit that creation is a process at the same time
>>> you claim to have disproved it exists!
>>>
>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
>>>
>>> Priceless!
Bukakke clearly can't process even SIMPLE logic. pffft
What a fucking MORON!
B^D
>>> It's ILLOGICAL SELF-CONTRADICTING CLAPTRAP!
>>>
>>>> (something Creationist Bill never could grasp,
>>>
>>> Ah, so you **ARE** trying to DELIBERATELY CONFUSE **Creation**
>>> per se and the fundie Christian view known as CreationISM!
>>>
About now, Bukakke must have realised her mistake!
NOWHERE in the response to MY challenge to PROVE
Bukakk'e claim did they mention CREATIONISM..
they simply and stupidly claimed to DISPROVE CREATION!
Idiotic, of course, but what does one expect FROM AN IDIOT!
B^D
>>> You really should get out more, and learn how to articulate
>>> your ideas with clarity and precision, otherwise you will
>>> just continue to look like a fool, and a mad, ranting harridin!
>
> No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>
> Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
>
> I win. B^]
>
> Bukakke continues to try and illegitimately REDEFINE the
> argument by SHIFTING GROUND:
>
>>>> creationism is a movement which exists,
>>>
>>> Sure, someone CREATED it! B^D See, you are WRONG again!
Far from "Disproving creation" bukakke has CREATED (lies and
confusion.. but it's still BUKAKKE's CREATION! B^)
>>> But that is not the claim in dispute.. you didn't
>>> post a challenge to me claiming that you 'disprove creationism'
>>> something I already told you has already been done, you claimed
>>> to "Disprove CREATION".. a ridiculous LIE, as i have shown
Bukakke's response shows they have no more argument.
they are defeated and can only run away.
>>> You are done and dusted.
>>>
>>> Now you are trying to shift ground and create a Red Herring.
>>>
>>> Enjoy it for your lunch.
>>>
>>> You are now officially off topic.
>>>
>>> I do not have to prove CREATION in **ALL** senses, just one.
>>>
>>> And I certainly don't have to address YOUR obsession as to
>>> WHO IS THE AUTHOR of what is created. Creation is REAL.
>>>
>>> I do it daily. You, perhaps, not at all.
>>>
>>> And I have shown many, it's ubiquitous, all around us.
>>>
>>> New stars are being created as I speak, new microscopic cells also.
>>>
>>> To DISPROVE Creation you have to disprove all that evidence.
>>>
>>> Off you go!
>>>
>>> And STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT, you dishonest atheist shitpig
What will you do now?
>> Keep running
and hurl worthless abuse that merely proves you are a sore loser?
>> you worthless excuse for an asswipe.
Er, are you the 'asswipe' making that excuse?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA
>> Next creationut
Another feeble attempt to change the subject from "Disproving Creation"
to whatever that unscientific strawman gibberish you just invented is!??
"Disproving Creation" was your claim. I called you out and
comprehensively demolished your case.
You lack the moral integrity and intellectual honesty to admit
that you fucked up.
I have you dead to rights, on the record. B^]
You are officially humiliated in public.
What are you due for now?
>> for an ass-kicking right this way.
Isn't the one I just gave you enough?
B^D
>> Budikka
reduced to nothing but a humiliated, whiney bitch who lacks the
integrity to even admit defeat.
piss weak, Chicken Little! B^D
>> I provide COPIOUS evidence that CREATION occurs
>> all around us.
>
> Where?
Look you moron, you CREATED that stupid question
and I have already CREATED and posted the sensible rational
answer above!
ergo, creation happens! You haven't disproved that at all!
You had no reply above you have snipped the answers in the
reply I have already created and asked the SAME question!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHA
You are too stupid to be bothered with!
Everyone can read the above and see that YOU abandoned the
argument about CREATION
So stop wasting our time seeking a NEW debate, until you
admit you lost the last one!
>> Bukakke provides NO EVIDENCE at ALL
to DISPROVE CREATION
> We posted 666 numbered items in a row
So you CREATED posts! B^D My point!
You have PROVEN creation, not disproved it!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
You are so fucking stupid it's HILARIOUS!
Q.E.D.
> and since then have
> posted scores upon scores more with no numbering.
More CREATION!
Thanks for making mMY case, you dumbfuck! B^D
> There are one or two individual items in that
> series that in themselves disprove creation,
So you claim, but who needs to wade through your turgid
outpourings of ignorance when you admit you CREATED them.
That disproves your claim to have 'disproved creation' B^]
You seem to really struggle with logic, and English comprehension.
> But the real disproof of creation is one hundred and
> fifty years of solid scientific evidence
All that evidence, and the theories linking it, were CREATED
by minds that clearly function better than your poor, confused and
completely addled brain!
> the total, utter and complete
> absence of a shred of scientific evidence for a creation
That very sentence was created by you, you poor thick-as-pigshit cretin.
I only need ONE example of creation to destroy your claim to have
disproved it. I have thousands.
B^]
> or for a creator.
Are you seriously trying to deny that *YOU* CREATED that sentence? B^D
You are stark raving MAD!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
> In face, the series is actually overkill
Of course it is, it doesn't matter how many examples you have
of not-creation, it only takes one example OF creation, and your
claim is demolished.
I just created one. B^]
> You creationuts
But you created the sentence before it, so you are a co-creationut.
B^D
Look, you poor simpleton.. you have confabulated creation and
Creationism, and that just makes you look foolish for the past
half dozen posts in this thread.
Don't you think people can see your mistake and wish you would stop
being a stupid tool in trying to CHANGE the SUBJECT from creation,
the subject of this thread, and the argument you have lost and lost
badly, with the obsession you have but no one else cares about to always
try and change the subject to CreationISM. B^D
No one cares, you mad raving harradin!
> have nothing to say other than whining
well it's time you STOPPED!
You can't disprove creation, humans create all the time
> as you've personally proven.
thanks.. no go take something for your hysteria! B^D
> You have nothing to offer other than bullshit
> Bible quotes.
Rubbish, I gave you examples of BIOLOGICAL creation,
the creation of new stars in EGGs.. you ignored ALL the
science.. because you are a blind bigot..
you only see what you want to see, you ignore what people SAY,
as when I demonstrated how ubiquitous creation is, and create
your OWN STRAWMAN, as when you pretend that by creation I mean
'Creationism'.. I DON'T, you LIE!
Now go fuck yourself, you stupid atheist dogmatist, because I have
finished making a fool of you, for now!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA
Bukakke DESPERATELY tries to make the opponent fit Bukakke's IRRELEVANT
strawman argument, rather than addressing the opponents ACTUAL argument;
> All I'm asking of you
Who would bother with you when you have run from, and tried to CHANGE
the subject of, previous arguments.. as you attempt here:
> loser creationists
I'm not your pathetic strawman creation..
I'm a 'creator', as you are, not the 'CreationIST' you need me to
be to STOP YOU LOOKING SO FUCKING STUPID!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAA
You really can't CHANGE your opponent's stance to FIT your
obsessive and dogmatic prejudices.. you have to change your
argument to fit the opponent's, you poor confused dolt!
> Now *that's* a QED.
It's taken you THIS LONG to realise that you have fucked up
by confusing creation with Creationism!! ?
I have NEVER argued Creationism, you ignorant twonk!
In fact I have told you on a number of occassions that it
ALREADY defunct! You are deaf and blind, you hear only the
ranting in your own mind.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA
> Got it now
You are slower than a wet week! B^D
> Budikka
Done to perfection!
---------
Atheists are in retreat:
Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
# "It’s very important to understand that these Gods
# came into being
> On Feb 25, 7:16 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Budikka666 runs from EVERY question, ignores the evidence and lies:
# From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
# Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.christian.religion,alt.christnet.christianlife,
# alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
# alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
# Subject: Bukakke fails to "Disprove Creation" - actually CREATES a
post PROVING
# she lies!!! . B^D gutless liar CHICKENSHIT Bukakke RUNS AWAY
AGAIN,
# As Predicted!
# Message-ID: <QJf2r.3661$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
# Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:16:24 +1100
> Budikka666 runs from EVERY question, ignores the evidence and lies:
>> On Feb 20, 3:18 pm, fasgnadh<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Budikka666, gutless atheist fraud, snipped and ran from the argument:> On 20/02/2012 8:40 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> On 8/01/2012 9:35 PM, Budikka wrote:
>>>>> On 8/01/2012 9:35 PM, Budikka wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/01/2012 1:47 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/01/2012 1:53 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>>>>> "fasgnadh"<fasgn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:tesMq.1280$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com
>>>>>>>>> On 3/01/2012 2:04 AM, Paul David Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/12/2011 11:55 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/01/2012 2:04 AM, Paul David Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 30/12/2011 11:55 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/12/2011 6:58 PM, Loirbaj wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It never built a single free, open, democratic state, let alone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the great and enduring civilisations built by believers.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists enjoy the modern secular democratic states created
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations in Europe, North America,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia and the rest of the world, but without an appropriate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense of gratitude.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they have no shame about the series of failed totalitarian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shitholes which are the only atheist states in 70,000 years of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> human history since Homo Sapiens emerged from Africa.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when you observe their responses, in this and other threads,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can see why atheism has never amounted to anything.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your mere appearance, here, sends the
>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
>>>>>>>>>>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>>>>>>>>>>> every atheist regime in history.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
>>>>>>>>>>> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the great and enduring civilisations built by believers.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheists enjoy the modern secular democratic states created
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by MAJORITY RELIGIOUS populations in Europe, North America,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australia and the rest of the world, but without an appropriate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense of gratitude.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they have no shame about the series of failed totalitarian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shitholes which are the only atheist states in 70,000 years of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> human history since Homo Sapiens emerged from Africa.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when you observe their responses, in this and other threads,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can see why atheism has never amounted to anything.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your mere appearance, here, sends the
>>>>>>>>>>>> atheists into a turmoil, so you must be near
>>>>>>>>>>>> the top of their Most Feared list, Fasgnadh.
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They don't like to talk about the horrific slaughter carried out by
>>>>>>>>>>> every atheist regime in history.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who can blame them for that, it's a more shameful past than any
>>>>>>>>>>> religion, with no redeeming merit, as the religions have.
>>>
>>>>> They will change the subject to ANYTHING to try and avoid talking
In this case Bukakke claimed to be Disproving Creation.
I provide COPIOUS evidence that CREATION occurs
all around us.. Bukakke provides NO EVIDENCE at ALL
for her claim, and even avoids the clear challenge to do so:
>>>>> You mean like yours for 'Disproving Creation.'?
"Disproving Creation" is BUKAKKE'S Claim.
She has no evidence that creation does not happen.
He own CREATED POST shows that it has.
Q.E.D.
Now watch the lying, gutless bitch avoid
EVERY QUESTION that mocks her IGNORANCE of science,
EVERY piece of EVIDENCE that CREATION is ubiquitous!
Run Little Chicken shit atheist LIAR, RUN! B^D
Nothing left to but MOCK the gutless coward as they RUN!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0kPQiQufpE
>>>>> I see things being created every day, my nephew created
>>>>> a finger painting at Kinder today.. other people created delicious
>>>>> meals, new babies, fashion designs, architectural plans.
Bukakke is as ignorant of creation as of everything else in science;
>>>> Hey fasgnadh -
>>>
>>> Yes Bukakke, now you want to talk to me?
>>> After all your rude and insolent ad hom slander and lies?
>>>
>>> Ah well, I can be magnanimous in victory.. what do you want, bitch?
>>>
>>>> if you can get over your adolescent sexual urges,
>>>
>>> Ah, my 'sexual urges' are part of my participation in Creation, you
>>> poor sexless drone, and they are not confined to adolescence! B^D
It was cruel of me to remind Bukakke of the most common form of CREATION
humans engage in, procreative sex.. (or lots of PRACTICE with
contraception to PREVENT CREATION!!! ;-), both of which which no one
wants to do with Bukakke, apparently, as they haven't heard of it!
8^o
How sad, to be uncreative in so many ways! B^]
>>> One of the great religious traditions is Tantric sex, pleasure can be
>>> prolonged at will, and procreation ensures my DNA propagates into the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> Are you really so ignorant of Creation in all it's wonders?
>>>
>>> How sad for you.
>>>
>>>>> You can't DISPROVE CREATION you IDIOTIC ATHEIST LIAR!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA
>>>
>>>>> At least it's not as silly as the thread where you wrote "Disapproving
>>>>> Creation"!
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly you hate SEX! B^D
>>>
>>> and now you berate me for HAVING IT!
>>>
>>> Are you jealous, or just a dried up, sexless atheist puritan?
Bukakke's silence says everything! B^]
>>> That would explain the rabid shrieking in all your posts, you mad
>>> harridan!
>>>
>>>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA
>>>
>>>> and since you've raised the topic,
>>>
>>> I am always raising topics that atheists and others are interested in,
>>> and yet your Kook-sucker atheist cronies slander me with claims that
>>> my posts are all the same.. or too long, or any other BULLSHIT excuse
>>> you weak gutless intellectual bankrupts can fabricate to cover up your
>>> inability to debate me. B^}
>>>
>>> And now, having run from so many subjects where I have eviscerated
>>> your nonsense, you want me to waste time on you again? B^p
Note.. I PREDICTED that as soon as I presented my argument,
CHICKENSHIT Bukakke would FOLD AND RUN AWAY **AGAIN**
and they have!
>>> Sure, I don't mind publicly humiliating you once more, even though we
>>> all know you will SNIP and ignore my argument, fail to answer any
>>> questions put to you, RUN AWAY and try to CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
I not only call my OWN shots.. I have the predictive
capacity to CALL BUKAKKE's!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA
>>> My conditions are that you answer questions put to you,
Bukakke FAILED to do so. Bukakke concedes the argument
>>> that you don't snip my posts, or the newsgroups,
>>> that you don't try and change the subject, say to "Creationsism"
>>> (Creation Science(sic)) which has already been disproved,
Bukakke FAILED! See below, Bukakke attempts to do just that!
>>> and that you don't project your prejudices and obsessions
>>> onto me.. ie, create (snicker) your usual STRAWMAN arguments
>>> and then debate your fabrication as if it was mine.
And That is precisely what the gutless LYING LOSER tried!
TOTAL VICTORY IS MINE..
The useless Bitch is not just defeated but HUMILIATED by the most
formidable critic atheism has ever faced!
I have their CHUMPION's head on a PIKE!
B^]
Sweet Victory!
Watch Bukakke the slithering shitpig squirm away:
EXACTLY AS I PREDICTED THEY WOULD! B^]
>>> Break these and the discussion with you is over ( I reserve
>>> the right to mock you mercilessly ;-) .
>>>
>>> Game on.
>>>
Game over.. ALREADY.. The Atheist Harradin's Head hangs over my mantle
piece!
#############################################################################
#
# >>>> why don't you and we discuss creation
#
# Is Everyone clear on the discussion topic proposed by BUKAKKE!? B^]
#
# creation.. not even capitalised.
# and CERTAINLY NOT "Creation Science"(sic) or "CREATIONISM"
# which are entirely different, (but which Bukakke appears to
# be very confused about!
#
# B^]
#
###########################################################################
>>> I am already discussing Creation, you are welcome to join me.
>>> Usenet is an OPEN forum, quite unlike the atheist tyrannies,
>>> or what the BAAWA thugs and Kook-Sucker Net Nannies would like
>>> to make it.
>>>
>>> As I have pointed out, when I found you claiming you are "Disproving
>>> Creation", ..you can't.
>>>
>>> I created this post. Disprove that! B^]
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has FAILED to disprove creation, I have created!
>>> I believe you have lost the argument with the first shot.
>>>
>>> I claim victory.
Q.E.D.
>>> Further evidence, just so it's on the record:
>>>
>>> I have co-created living beings, via the act called proCREATION,
>>> which apparently you have not only not tried, but haven't even
>>> heard about! 8^o Your ignorance is appalling!
>>>
>>> Every second, plants create new cells, the sun creates massive
>>> amounts of energy, people create poems, songs, spreadsheets..
>>> whole civilisations, unless they create atheist regimes, which
>>> are all totalitarian tyrannies and kill millions of people..
>>> Destruction.. the very opposite to Creation.. (unless you
>>> argue they Create Chaos, Disorder, Despair and Death.. but
>>> then you would be conceding that you can't 'Disprove Creation' ;-)
>>>
>>> all of this is unknown to you?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>>> Do you live in a hat-box, with the lid nailed down?
>>>
>>>> vs. evolution right here in this thread?
>>>
>>> I am happy to extend the discussion about creation to evolution,
>>> after all the creation of new species occurs via evolution.
>>>
>>> So, your notion that it's creation vrs evolution, is absurd,
>>> they are part of the same holistic reality.
>>>
>>> It is the creation of new individuals, with the chance of random
>>> mutations, which allows Natural selection to determine that the
>>> more useful mutations survive and prosper, and the species evolves.
>>>
>>> Humans have introduced the possibility of CONTROLLED evolution,
>>> selective breeding to create desired traits in animals and plants..
>>>
>>> and through partner selection.. in humans.
>>>
>>> That is why, apparently, you remain ignorant of sex and proCREATION,
>>> no one wants to pollute the gene pool by allowing you to swim in it.
>>>
>>> 8..(
>>>
>>>>> Do you perhaps mean Disproving CreationISM?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
It is now clear that Bukakke has run away from the debate on creation
AND on Evolution
>>>>> But that's already been done.. by John Shelby Spong for example,
>>>>> ages ago!
>>>
>>> You really should READ my posts, before replying to them,
>>> you would look a lot less stupid then.
>>>
>>>> You've now asserted that wes ee creation all around us.
>>>
>>> Sure. I see this post you have created.
Wow, Bukakke sure shut up quick after I presented the undeniable
evidence for creation!
B^D
> No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>
>>> I'm holding a glass created by persons unknown to me.
>>>
>>> On the wall are photos of the children I co-created.
>>>
>>> Sunlight creates ever changing patterns of refraction on
>>> the ocean floor when I go snorkelling..
>>>
>>> I drive down roads created by this civilisation past trees
>>> created by other trees and animals created by other animals.
>>>
>>> It's all around us.
>
> Bukakke IGNORES the evidence proving creation!
>
> Bukakke has lost the argument, over and over and over!!!!
>
> B^]
>
>
>>>> We're calling you out to support that
>>>> assertion.
>>>
>>> I created this answer to your challenge.
>>>
>>> Q.E.D.
>>>
>>> You haven't disproven creation, as YOU claimed.
Now here we have one of the unproven, FALSE assumptions
which led Bukakke into ERROR, based on NOTHING but her IGNORANT,
UNINFORMED, STUPID and COMPLETELY WRONG ***BELIEF***
>>>>Clearly you believe there's a creator
Clearly you are a liar, projecting your BELIEFS onto ME!
Sure parents are creators (note, 2, not 1) but
crystals just grow, you clueless, ignorant fuckwit!
>>> Sure, I know who created the answer to your challenge.. me!
But that doesn't mean I believe, as YOU just claimed,
that all creation is the result of Intelligent Design.
Light creates a shadow.. that is no more 'intelligent'
than YOU!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAA
Bukakke is no scientist, not rational, not even intelligent..
and yet, like crystals they can create new forms - posts in your case,
APPARENTLY WITHOUT INTELLIGENCE! B^D
Bukakke is a LIAR who makes FALSE claims about OTHERS and then DEBATES
BUKAKKE's OWN **STRAWMAN BULLSHIT, instead of what I ACTUALLY SAY.
when ALL the EVIDENCE shows that creation is real and happens!!!
Bukakke is misled by UNFOUNDED BELIEFS which are as wrong as the
claim that creation is 'disproven' pfffft!
>>> Who the fuck do YOU think you are talking to?
>>> Voices in your head? B^D
That is what Bukakke is listening to, and debating.. 8^o
not MY claim, that creation is real and Bukakke is lying
to claim to have DISPROVEN it!
>>> Hallucinations caused by repressed sexual tensions?
>>>
>>> God? B^D
After all, Bukakke the pretend atheist has built an ALTAR
to worship Dawkin's God;
# From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
# Subject: Disapproving Creation:
# Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID:
<b5430732-e52e-45b5...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
#
#> come worshiping at the altar of atheism
Bukakke appears to have gone quite mad! B^D
>
>>> Creation is the central BIOLOGICAL ACT.
>>>
>>> You can't disprove it, you mad atheist bigot!
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>>> It's a LAW of NATURE! B^D
>>>
>>> All YOU can do is NOT PARTICIPATE in it!
>>>
>>>> - let's see what evidence you can supply for it.
>>>
>>> "I POST, THEREFORE I AM"
>>>
>>> Q.E.D.
>>>
>>> Give us your ALTERNATIVE explanation for how an ANSWER
>>> to your question was created, unless I, the one claiming
>>> to be it's creator, exist.
>>>
>>> .....................................................
>>>
>>> .....................................................
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has abandoned the argument, knowing they have LOST IT!
>>>> You go ahead and post one item of *positive* *scientific* evidence for
>>>> a creation
>>>
>>> My post.
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>>> or for a creator
>>>
>>> Me.
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>> Do you need photographs? Birth Certificate?
>>>
>>> Are you really as stupid as your posts suggest?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>>> as established by publication in a
>>>> refereed professional science journal,
>>>
>>> So you can't accept observational evidence of what
>>> is clearly manifest before you!?
>>>
>>> Wow, no wonder you are so ignorant?
>>> How did you ever learn to WALK?
>
>
> No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>
> Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
>
> I win. B^]
>
>
>>> Ok, in that case, use as evidence
>>>
>>> Cogito ergo sum
>>>
>>> "I think therefore I am" created by Rene Descarte.
>>>
>>> You can google numerous references confirming that he CREATED that quote.
>>>
>>> Are we done here?
BUKAKKE SURE IS DONE! like a DINNER!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>> You are clearly a deeply confused individual, with
>>> a perception of the material world not far from
>>> Kaspar Hauser, or any sub epsilon moron.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enigma_of_Kaspar_Hauser
>>>
>>>> and I will post one such item
>>>> for abiogenesis or for evolution,
>>>
>>> WHATEVER you post, will be creation of new argument,
>>> and further PROOF of creation per se, not Disproving
>>> Creation, as you have claimed.
Bukakke didn't post any evidence of 'Disproving creation' AT ALL!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bukakke has COMPLETELY QUIT, FLED, ABANDONED THE ARGUMENT, RUN AWAY!!!
>>> cadit quaetio
>>>
>>>> and we will continue in that fashion
>>>> and see who runs out first.
I have posted numerous proofs that creation happens,
Bukakke has posted NOTHING 'Disproving Creation'
>>> Go ahead, I'll wait.
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>>> [I've restricted the news groups to the standard three to which I've
>>>> been posting the 'Disproving Creation' series
>>>
>>> What a facile argument.. YOU are posting in MY thread
>>> and have changed the subject and the NGS! 8^o
>>>
>>> Get fucked, you ridiculous blowhard! B^D
>>>
>>> I have added additional relevant NGs to
>>> restore what you snipped.. Surely you are not afraid of
>>> a larger audience for your ritual humiliation?
No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
I win. B^]
>>> B^]
>>> And now the argument is over! You lost.
>>>
>>> Unable to "Disprove Creation" because, clearly, things are created.
>>>
>>> A Splendid mornings work! Time for breakfast!
>>>
>>> I will leave you to gnash your teeth in impotent rage
>>> at the fastest defeat in Usenet history.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day, Bukakke.
>>>
>>> Make sure you continue your mad determination to NEVER CREATE
>>> anything original interesting or intelligent.. clearly that's
>>> why you chose to be an atheist!
>>>
>>> B^D
>>>
>>>> BTW, you're evidently not smart enough to grasp that our series is
>>>> called "Disproving Creation" for very good reasons.
>>>
>>> Lying to people is never good and certainly not 'reason', Bukakke! B^[
>>>
>>>> The first is that it's an ongoing process
>>>
>>> So you admit that creation is a process at the same time
>>> you claim to have disproved it exists!
>>>
>>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
>>>
>>> Priceless!
Bukakke clearly can't process even SIMPLE logic. pffft
What a fucking MORON!
B^D
>>> It's ILLOGICAL SELF-CONTRADICTING CLAPTRAP!
>>>
>>>> (something Creationist Bill never could grasp,
>>>
>>> Ah, so you **ARE** trying to DELIBERATELY CONFUSE **Creation**
>>> per se and the fundie Christian view known as CreationISM!
>>>
About now, Bukakke must have realised her mistake!
NOWHERE in the response to MY challenge to PROVE
Bukakk'e claim did they mention CREATIONISM..
they simply and stupidly claimed to DISPROVE CREATION!
Idiotic, of course, but what does one expect FROM AN IDIOT!
B^D
>>> You really should get out more, and learn how to articulate
>>> your ideas with clarity and precision, otherwise you will
>>> just continue to look like a fool, and a mad, ranting harridin!
>
> No answer from the defeated atheist liar.
>
> Bukakke has RUN AWAY!!! DEFEATED!!
>
> I win. B^]
>
> Bukakke continues to try and illegitimately REDEFINE the
> argument by SHIFTING GROUND:
>
>>>> creationism is a movement which exists,
>>>
>>> Sure, someone CREATED it! B^D See, you are WRONG again!
Far from "Disproving creation" bukakke has CREATED (lies and
confusion.. but it's still BUKAKKE's CREATION! B^)
>>> But that is not the claim in dispute.. you didn't
>>> post a challenge to me claiming that you 'disprove creationism'
>>> something I already told you has already been done, you claimed
>>> to "Disprove CREATION".. a ridiculous LIE, as i have shown
Bukakke's response shows they have no more argument.
they are defeated and can only run away.
>>> You are done and dusted.
>>>
>>> Now you are trying to shift ground and create a Red Herring.
>>>
>>> Enjoy it for your lunch.
>>>
>>> You are now officially off topic.
>>>
>>> I do not have to prove CREATION in **ALL** senses, just one.
>>>
>>> And I certainly don't have to address YOUR obsession as to
>>> WHO IS THE AUTHOR of what is created. Creation is REAL.
>>>
>>> I do it daily. You, perhaps, not at all.
>>>
>>> And I have shown many, it's ubiquitous, all around us.
>>>
>>> New stars are being created as I speak, new microscopic cells also.
>>>
>>> To DISPROVE Creation you have to disprove all that evidence.
>>>
>>> Off you go!
>>>
>>> And STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT, you dishonest atheist shitpig
What will you do now?
>> Keep running
and hurl worthless abuse that merely proves you are a sore loser?
>> you worthless excuse for an asswipe.
Er, are you the 'asswipe' making that excuse?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA
>> Next creationut
Another feeble attempt to change the subject from "Disproving Creation"
to whatever that unscientific strawman gibberish you just invented is!??
"Disproving Creation" was your claim. I called you out and
comprehensively demolished your case.
You lack the moral integrity and intellectual honesty to admit
that you fucked up.
I have you dead to rights, on the record. B^]
You are officially humiliated in public.
What are you due for now?
>> for an ass-kicking right this way.
Isn't the one I just gave you enough?
B^D
>> Budikka
reduced to nothing but a humiliated, whiney bitch who lacks the
integrity to even admit defeat.
piss weak, Chicken Little! B^D
>> I provide COPIOUS evidence that CREATION occurs
>> all around us.
>
> Where?
Look you moron, you CREATED that stupid question
and I have already CREATED and posted the sensible rational
answer above!
ergo, creation happens! You haven't disproved that at all!
You had no reply above you have snipped the answers in the
reply I have already created and asked the SAME question!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHA
You are too stupid to be bothered with!
Everyone can read the above and see that YOU abandoned the
argument about CREATION
So stop wasting our time seeking a NEW debate, until you
admit you lost the last one!
>> Bukakke provides NO EVIDENCE at ALL
to DISPROVE CREATION
> We posted 666 numbered items in a row
So you CREATED posts! B^D My point!
You have PROVEN creation, not disproved it!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
You are so fucking stupid it's HILARIOUS!
Q.E.D.
> and since then have
> posted scores upon scores more with no numbering.
More CREATION!
Thanks for making mMY case, you dumbfuck! B^D
> There are one or two individual items in that
> series that in themselves disprove creation,
So you claim, but who needs to wade through your turgid
outpourings of ignorance when you admit you CREATED them.
That disproves your claim to have 'disproved creation' B^]
You seem to really struggle with logic, and English comprehension.
> But the real disproof of creation is one hundred and
> fifty years of solid scientific evidence
All that evidence, and the theories linking it, were CREATED
by minds that clearly function better than your poor, confused and
completely addled brain!
> the total, utter and complete
> absence of a shred of scientific evidence for a creation
That very sentence was created by you, you poor thick-as-pigshit cretin.
I only need ONE example of creation to destroy your claim to have
disproved it. I have thousands.
B^]
> or for a creator.
Are you seriously trying to deny that *YOU* CREATED that sentence? B^D
You are stark raving MAD!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA
> In face, the series is actually overkill
Of course it is, it doesn't matter how many examples you have
of not-creation, it only takes one example OF creation, and your
claim is demolished.
I just created one. B^]
> You creationuts
But you created the sentence before it, so you are a co-creationut.
B^D
Look, you poor simpleton.. you have confabulated creation and
Creationism, and that just makes you look foolish for the past
half dozen posts in this thread.
Don't you think people can see your mistake and wish you would stop
being a stupid tool in trying to CHANGE the SUBJECT from creation,
the subject of this thread, and the argument you have lost and lost
badly, with the obsession you have but no one else cares about to always
try and change the subject to CreationISM. B^D
No one cares, you mad raving harradin!
> have nothing to say other than whining
well it's time you STOPPED!
You can't disprove creation, humans create all the time
> as you've personally proven.
thanks.. no go take something for your hysteria! B^D
> You have nothing to offer other than bullshit
> Bible quotes.
Rubbish, I gave you examples of BIOLOGICAL creation,
the creation of new stars in EGGs.. you ignored ALL the
science.. because you are a blind bigot..
you only see what you want to see, you ignore what people SAY,
as when I demonstrated how ubiquitous creation is, and create
your OWN STRAWMAN, as when you pretend that by creation I mean
'Creationism'.. I DON'T, you LIE!
Now go fuck yourself, you stupid atheist dogmatist, because I have
finished making a fool of you, for now!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA
Bukakke DESPERATELY tries to make the opponent fit Bukakke's IRRELEVANT
strawman argument, rather than addressing the opponents ACTUAL argument;
> All I'm asking of you
Who would bother with you when you have run from, and tried to CHANGE
the subject of, previous arguments.. as you attempt here:
> loser creationists
I'm not your pathetic strawman creation..
I'm a 'creator', as you are, not the 'CreationIST' you need me to
be to STOP YOU LOOKING SO FUCKING STUPID!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAA
You really can't CHANGE your opponent's stance to FIT your
obsessive and dogmatic prejudices.. you have to change your
argument to fit the opponent's, you poor confused dolt!
> Now *that's* a QED.
It's taken you THIS LONG to realise that you have fucked up
by confusing creation with Creationism!! ?
I have NEVER argued Creationism, you ignorant twonk!
In fact I have told you on a number of occassions that it
ALREADY defunct! You are deaf and blind, you hear only the
ranting in your own mind.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA
> Got it now
You are slower than a wet week! B^D
> Budikka
Done to perfection!
---------
Atheists are in retreat:
Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
# came into being
fasgnadh
Mar 9, 2012, 9:00:31 AM3/9/12
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On 21/02/2012 1:34 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:44:16 -0800, "Andrew"<andrew....@usa.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:48602b05-2bb9-47bc...@k40g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hey fasgnadh - if you can get over your adolescent sexual urges,
Is that why Bukakke is a shrieking harradin, because they haven't had
sexual urges since adolescence? B^D
>>> and since you've raised the topic,
true.. I CREATED this thread ..
Poor Bukakke, no matter what he tries he can't help but admit that
creation is all around us.
>>> why don't you and we discuss creation
I have done so.. numerous examples from sexual reproduction (Biology)
to the creation of refraction patterns by light passing through water
(physics) were given to you, and even YOUR OWN creation of posts,
which demonstrates that, like the refraction patterns mentioned,
creation does not pre-suppose INTELLIGENCE!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
>>> vs. evolution right here in this thread?
You haven't even engaged my argument, summarised above, on creation,
and already you want to CHANGE THE SUBJECT to 'evolution'!???!!!
Can there be any clearer evidence that you have QUIT the argument about
creation, because you clearly lost it, and are looking to GROUND-SHIFT!!!
No fucking way!
I will, to demonstrate just how UBIQUITOUS creation is, point out
that new species can be CREATED by mutation and natural selection.
Proving once again that you haven't, and CAN't 'Disprove creation'
as you falsely claimed.
>>> You've now asserted that we see creation all around us.
I did more than assert it, I provided copious examples.
eg you created the sentence above my reply, and I created my reply.
I have proved that creation occurs continuously and frequently.
i.e. it is all around us.
The breeze creates a feeling of cool comfort and freshness.
Your mad shrieking creates a dull headache.
Your posts create enormous, and unintentional, amusement amongst the
intelligent readers! (Which proves you don't need intelligence to
have creation! B^]
>>> We're calling you out to support that assertion.
Oh you witless moron.. STOP SNIPPING ALL THE EVIDENCE
and start DISPROVING even ONE of the examples I have challenged your
bullshit and lies with!!!!
Disprove my claim that you created the post I am replying to.
And that I created the reply.
Disprove that the light of the sun CREATES shadows.
Disprove that revolving metal coils in a magnetic field creates
a flow of electrons!
>>> Clearly you believe there's a creator
For your posts, sure.. it's you.
for children it's the parents.
For the flow of electrons? If it's a pedal powered generator, then
the person peddling, but if it's a hydro plant???
I have never claimed that every creation requires a sentient creator,
once again you are FABRICATING strawmen, because you have lost the
EXISTING argument.
B^]
>>> - let's see what
>>> evidence you can supply for it.
you want me to provide evidence for YOUR unfounded and false ASSERTION!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH
Go stuff your OWN strawman, you stupid ranting bitch! B^D
>>> You go ahead and post one item of *positive* *scientific* evidence for
>>> a creation
Oh fer fucks sake, by now I have given you DOZENS, you pathetic fraud!
I cited refraction patterns created by light passing through water in my
very first response.. AND YOU SNIPPED AND IGNORED IT!!!
My patience has run out with such a dim-witted cretin! B^p
>>> and I will post one such item
>>> for abiogenesis or for evolution,
ANd that is your problem you irrational bigot, you IGNORE my actual
argument, snipping and running, then you try and FABRICATE one, a
strawman, which you ascribe to me, and now you admit that having
re-defined what you want MY argument to be, you will change YOUR
argument from creation to abiogenesis and evolution.
Why do any of the atheists put up with such an IDIOT?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA
You are a complete EMBARRASSMENT! As crazy as the fundie creationists
you are always engaged with, and have become alike! pffffft!
>>> and we will continue in that fashion
No. we will continue in the fashion you challenged and I defeated you,
debating creation. You have now created another (failed) attempt to
CHANGE THE SUBJECT.. because you know you have lost the current one.
Far from 'disproving creation' you CREATE new distractions and
irrelevancies every post!
>>> and see who runs out first.
You have already run away, hence your attempts to change the subject.
Time for me to climb the winners podium and piss on you from
a great height
>>> Go ahead, I'll wait.
...
> Project much, pathological narcissist and liar?
He sure does. If you tell him you created children he pretends you are
claiming to be a CreationIST!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAA
> insane.
completely! Jung was right about atheists;
"Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
he had lost that which the living religions of every age
have given their followers, and none of them has really
been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."
-Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul
The atheists psychotic and hate filled warlord admitted
their need for help with their personal problems;
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We're here to talk about our own personal issues as atheists
and his posts show how serious his are:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats and
# not in a girly way.
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
> Get help for your serious mental illness.
what about your own:
# From: "John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Merry Christmas
# Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0400
# Message-ID: <4953abb6$1$5460$9a56...@news.aliant.net>
#
# Hello Folks;
#
# I'd like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas
# and a safe holiday season. Phil 4:8.
#
# Cheers,
# John
# From: Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
# Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0500
# Message-ID: <o07dl41sa4t4jhof3...@4ax.com>
#
# "go fuck yourself with your crucifix in a drill chuck'.
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:44:16 -0800, "Andrew"<andrew....@usa.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "Budikka666" wrote in message news:48602b05-2bb9-47bc...@k40g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hey fasgnadh - if you can get over your adolescent sexual urges,
Is that why Bukakke is a shrieking harradin, because they haven't had
sexual urges since adolescence? B^D
>>> and since you've raised the topic,
Poor Bukakke, no matter what he tries he can't help but admit that
creation is all around us.
>>> why don't you and we discuss creation
to the creation of refraction patterns by light passing through water
(physics) were given to you, and even YOUR OWN creation of posts,
which demonstrates that, like the refraction patterns mentioned,
creation does not pre-suppose INTELLIGENCE!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
>>> vs. evolution right here in this thread?
and already you want to CHANGE THE SUBJECT to 'evolution'!???!!!
Can there be any clearer evidence that you have QUIT the argument about
creation, because you clearly lost it, and are looking to GROUND-SHIFT!!!
No fucking way!
I will, to demonstrate just how UBIQUITOUS creation is, point out
that new species can be CREATED by mutation and natural selection.
Proving once again that you haven't, and CAN't 'Disprove creation'
as you falsely claimed.
>>> You've now asserted that we see creation all around us.
eg you created the sentence above my reply, and I created my reply.
I have proved that creation occurs continuously and frequently.
i.e. it is all around us.
The breeze creates a feeling of cool comfort and freshness.
Your mad shrieking creates a dull headache.
Your posts create enormous, and unintentional, amusement amongst the
intelligent readers! (Which proves you don't need intelligence to
have creation! B^]
>>> We're calling you out to support that assertion.
and start DISPROVING even ONE of the examples I have challenged your
bullshit and lies with!!!!
Disprove my claim that you created the post I am replying to.
And that I created the reply.
Disprove that the light of the sun CREATES shadows.
Disprove that revolving metal coils in a magnetic field creates
a flow of electrons!
>>> Clearly you believe there's a creator
for children it's the parents.
For the flow of electrons? If it's a pedal powered generator, then
the person peddling, but if it's a hydro plant???
I have never claimed that every creation requires a sentient creator,
once again you are FABRICATING strawmen, because you have lost the
EXISTING argument.
B^]
>>> - let's see what
>>> evidence you can supply for it.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH
Go stuff your OWN strawman, you stupid ranting bitch! B^D
>>> You go ahead and post one item of *positive* *scientific* evidence for
>>> a creation
I cited refraction patterns created by light passing through water in my
very first response.. AND YOU SNIPPED AND IGNORED IT!!!
My patience has run out with such a dim-witted cretin! B^p
>>> and I will post one such item
>>> for abiogenesis or for evolution,
argument, snipping and running, then you try and FABRICATE one, a
strawman, which you ascribe to me, and now you admit that having
re-defined what you want MY argument to be, you will change YOUR
argument from creation to abiogenesis and evolution.
Why do any of the atheists put up with such an IDIOT?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA
You are a complete EMBARRASSMENT! As crazy as the fundie creationists
you are always engaged with, and have become alike! pffffft!
>>> and we will continue in that fashion
debating creation. You have now created another (failed) attempt to
CHANGE THE SUBJECT.. because you know you have lost the current one.
Far from 'disproving creation' you CREATE new distractions and
irrelevancies every post!
>>> and see who runs out first.
Time for me to climb the winners podium and piss on you from
a great height
>>> Go ahead, I'll wait.
> Project much, pathological narcissist and liar?
He sure does. If you tell him you created children he pretends you are
claiming to be a CreationIST!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAA
> insane.
completely! Jung was right about atheists;
"Among all my patients in the second half of life, that is, over
thirty-five, there has not been one whose problem in the last
resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life.
It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because
he had lost that which the living religions of every age
have given their followers, and none of them has really
been healed who did not regain his religious outlook."
-Carl G. Jung Modern Man in Search of a Soul
The atheists psychotic and hate filled warlord admitted
their need for help with their personal problems;
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
and his posts show how serious his are:
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1...@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# not in a girly way.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
# From: Steve Knight <skni...@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv...@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_g...@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA
what about your own:
# From: "John Fraser" <jfr...@ns.sympatico.ca>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Merry Christmas
# Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0400
# Message-ID: <4953abb6$1$5460$9a56...@news.aliant.net>
#
# Hello Folks;
#
# I'd like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas
# and a safe holiday season. Phil 4:8.
#
# Cheers,
# John
# From: Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
# Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0500
# Message-ID: <o07dl41sa4t4jhof3...@4ax.com>
#
# "go fuck yourself with your crucifix in a drill chuck'.
fasgnadh
Mar 9, 2012, 9:09:20 AM3/9/12
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On 26/02/2012 8:11 PM, Vurgil wrote:
>>>>> In article<5941r.3305$v14...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
>>
>> > "It's very important to
>> > understand that these [vurgil's forgery snipped] Gods came into being
>>
>>
>>> anbd only if they evolve
>>
>> Explain how immaterial entities of 'intelligent energy'
>> can evolve if they are not biological or botanical species which
>> reproduce, and thus may mutate, and thus may be subject to NATURAL
>> SELECTION, you scientifically illiterate BELIEVER in Dawkin's Gods!
>>
>> B^D
> "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It¹s highly
"Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It's highly
plausible that in the universe there are God-like creatures."
Again you have changed the meaning by falsifying the text:
> ³It¹s very important to
What Dawkin's said was
"It's very important to understand that these Gods came into
>>> from lesser creatures.
>>
>> We couldn't find any lesser creatures than you, you post forging
>> atheist fraud:
>>
>> # Path:
>>
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>> # From: Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>
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maturity ...
>> # References:
>> <ccd047bf-2dd3-46fd...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:02:08 -0600
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>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 797e6abf.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
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>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # Xref: news-server.bigpond.net.au sci.med.cardiology:187306
>> alt.atheism:2715703 alt.christnet.christianlife:681165
>> alt.christnet.theology:135543
>> #
>> # In article
>> # <ccd047bf-2dd3-46fd...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
>> # "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>> #
>> # > ... reminding us of those foul-mouth theists that we have left
>> # > behind in the playground decades ago.
>> #
>> # Among whom A. B. Chung is primary.
>>
>> A. B. Chung did not write those words, they are forged
>> by Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>
>>
>> aka Chung <A...@cde.com>
>>
>> aka ABCHUNG <A...@def.ghi>
>>
>> aka hdangsaf <h...@ng.saf>
>>
>> aka A Nony Mouse <vir...@nowhere.com
>>
>> As you can see Virgil impersonates Chung as part of his
>> forgery and cyberstalking.
>>
>> A. B Chungs actual post is below, you can see that text attributed
>> to him has been forged.
>>
>>
>>
>> _________________________________-
>> ActualPost:
>> __________________________________
>>
>>
>> # From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
>> # Newsgroups:
>>
sci.med.cardiology,alt.atheism,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
>>
>> # Subject: Proof by LORD Almighty GOD; non-christians lack maturity ...
>> # Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:39:29 -0700 (PDT)
>> # Organization: http://groups.google.com
>> # Message-ID:
>> <ccd047bf-2dd3-46fd...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.28.128.78
>> # X-Trace: posting.google.com 1242484769 11066 127.0.0.1 (16 May 2009
>> 14:39:29 GMT)
>> # X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:39:29 +0000 (UTC)
>> # Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>> # User-Agent: G2/1.0
>> # X-HTTP-Via: 1.0 LBPROX
>> # X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>> # Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR
>> # 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>> # Xref: news-server.bigpond.net.au sci.med.cardiology:187180
>> alt.atheism:2715092 alt.christnet.christianlife:680962
>> alt.christnet.theology:135479
>> #
>> # ... reminding us of those foul-mouth delinquents that we have left
>> # behind in the playground decades ago:
>>
>> ###############################
>>
>> All of these sockpuppets are the same person
>> as can easily be determined from the headers.
>>
>>
>>
>> @ From: Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>
>> @ Subject: Jesus is Bored with Chung ! ! !
>> @ User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> @ Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 01:07:43 -0600
>> @ Message-ID: <vmhjr2-95D2E8....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> @ Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> @ NNTP-Posting-Host: 65784340.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> @ X-Trace:
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>>
>> @ X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>>
>>
>> # From: Chung <A...@cde.com>
>> # Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> # alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theologyalt.atheism,
>> # Subject: Re: Theist Frauds and Forgers
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:37:23 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-258CE2.1...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 945ce08f.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>>
>> # From: ABCHUNG <A...@def.ghi>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,aus.religion,aus.politics,
>> # alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:39:51 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-1D22FD.1...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: eea407f9.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
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>>
>>
>> # From: hdangsaf <h...@ng.saf>
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:12:48 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <hd-450732.21...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: a7605eb4.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> # From: A Nony Mouse <vir...@nowhere.com>
>> # Newsgroups:
>>
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.philosophy,alt.atheism.satire,aus.religion,alt.usenet.kooks
>>
>> # Subject: Re: The Problem with atheism is that it has never had a
>> Reformation or needed one.
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 10:48:50 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <virgil-EE1295....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 729cae45.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The impersonation, forgery and cyberstalking
>> were enabled and allowed by
>>
>> Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>>
>> Eventually complaints about Vurgils cyberstalking and
>> post forgery led to his internet account being closed.
>>
>> HeE's now back as Vurgil.
>>
>> Virgil has made clear his purpose in cyberstalking,
>> it is to stop his targets from posting;
>>
>> "stop posting to alt.atheism, and we will stop"
>>
>> - Virgil aka Chung aka BJChung aka..
>> Message-ID: <ABC-D0FDCD.0...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>>
>>
>> # From: Chung <A...@cde.com>
>> # Newsgroups:
>>
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,aus.politics,uk.politics.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
>>
>> # Subject: Re: How Theist Spammers and Forgers like fasgnadh abuse
>> alt.atheism when they have plenty of newsgroups of their own.
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:44:35 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-D0FDCD.0...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: b2cd6dbd.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> #
>> # > "hdangsaf" aka "ABCHUNG" aka "Chung" aka "fasgnadh
<stu...@gemail.com>"
>> # > aka ..., the atheist forger, sockpuppet and spammer
>> #
>> #
>> # stop posting to alt.atheism, and we will stop
>> #
>> # >
>> # > Atheists should let let Usenet Monster Unlimited -
>> # > http://www.usenetmonster.com ..know that you appreciate their
>> # > support of atheist USENET parasites, spammers, impersonators
>> # > and forgers, enabling their Cyber-stalking of individual believers.
--
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Atheists are in retreat:
> On 26/02/2012 6:45 PM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> On 26/02/2012 1:44 PM, Vurgil wrote:
>>> In article<rag2r.3667$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
>>> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vurgil's forgeries removed quotes are now VERBATIM not doctored:
>> On 26/02/2012 1:44 PM, Vurgil wrote:
>>> In article<rag2r.3667$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
>>> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> In article<5941r.3305$v14...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
>>>>> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheists are in retreat:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist
>>>
>>> Only in the distant future
>>
>> Liar:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Atheists are in retreat:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist
>>>
>>> Only in the distant future
>>
>>
>> > "It's very important to
>> > understand that these [vurgil's forgery snipped] Gods came into being
>>
>>
>>> anbd only if they evolve
>>
>> Explain how immaterial entities of 'intelligent energy'
>> can evolve if they are not biological or botanical species which
>> reproduce, and thus may mutate, and thus may be subject to NATURAL
>> SELECTION, you scientifically illiterate BELIEVER in Dawkin's Gods!
>>
>> B^D
>>
>
> Not according to the unedited conversation:
But you have given us YOUR EDITED version! 8^o
>
> Not according to the unedited conversation:
> "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It¹s highly
> plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
> are God-like creatures."
You have edited that text, I presented it unedited:
> are God-like creatures."
"Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It's highly
plausible that in the universe there are God-like creatures."
Again you have changed the meaning by falsifying the text:
> ³It¹s very important to
> understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
> explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.²
What Dawkin's said was
"It's very important to understand that these Gods came into
being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution."
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
>>> from lesser creatures.
>>
>> We couldn't find any lesser creatures than you, you post forging
>> atheist fraud:
>>
>> # Path:
>>
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>>
>> # From: Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>
>> # Newsgroups:
>>
sci.med.cardiology,alt.atheism,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
>>
>> # Subject: Re: Proof by LORD Almighty CHUNG; christians lack
maturity ...
>> # References:
>> <ccd047bf-2dd3-46fd...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:02:08 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <vmhjr2-885CBF....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Lines: 8
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 797e6abf.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # Xref: news-server.bigpond.net.au sci.med.cardiology:187306
>> alt.atheism:2715703 alt.christnet.christianlife:681165
>> alt.christnet.theology:135543
>> #
>> # In article
>> # <ccd047bf-2dd3-46fd...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
>> # "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>> #
>> # > ... reminding us of those foul-mouth theists that we have left
>> # > behind in the playground decades ago.
>> #
>> # Among whom A. B. Chung is primary.
>>
>> A. B. Chung did not write those words, they are forged
>> by Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>
>>
>> aka Chung <A...@cde.com>
>>
>> aka ABCHUNG <A...@def.ghi>
>>
>> aka hdangsaf <h...@ng.saf>
>>
>> aka A Nony Mouse <vir...@nowhere.com
>>
>> As you can see Virgil impersonates Chung as part of his
>> forgery and cyberstalking.
>>
>> A. B Chungs actual post is below, you can see that text attributed
>> to him has been forged.
>>
>>
>>
>> _________________________________-
>> ActualPost:
>> __________________________________
>>
>>
>> # From: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
>> # Newsgroups:
>>
sci.med.cardiology,alt.atheism,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theology
>>
>> # Subject: Proof by LORD Almighty GOD; non-christians lack maturity ...
>> # Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:39:29 -0700 (PDT)
>> # Organization: http://groups.google.com
>> # Message-ID:
>> <ccd047bf-2dd3-46fd...@g19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.28.128.78
>> # X-Trace: posting.google.com 1242484769 11066 127.0.0.1 (16 May 2009
>> 14:39:29 GMT)
>> # X-Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:39:29 +0000 (UTC)
>> # Complaints-To: groups...@google.com
>> # User-Agent: G2/1.0
>> # X-HTTP-Via: 1.0 LBPROX
>> # X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>> # Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR
>> # 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
>> # Xref: news-server.bigpond.net.au sci.med.cardiology:187180
>> alt.atheism:2715092 alt.christnet.christianlife:680962
>> alt.christnet.theology:135479
>> #
>> # ... reminding us of those foul-mouth delinquents that we have left
>> # behind in the playground decades ago:
>>
>> ###############################
>>
>> All of these sockpuppets are the same person
>> as can easily be determined from the headers.
>>
>>
>>
>> @ From: Virgil <vmh...@comcast.net>
>> @ Subject: Jesus is Bored with Chung ! ! !
>> @ User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> @ Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 01:07:43 -0600
>> @ Message-ID: <vmhjr2-95D2E8....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> @ Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> @ NNTP-Posting-Host: 65784340.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> @ X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>> @ X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>>
>>
>> # From: Chung <A...@cde.com>
>> # Newsgroups: sci.med.cardiology,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> # alt.messianic.yeshua,alt.christnet.theologyalt.atheism,
>> # Subject: Re: Theist Frauds and Forgers
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:37:23 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-258CE2.1...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 945ce08f.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>>
>> # From: ABCHUNG <A...@def.ghi>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion,aus.religion,aus.politics,
>> # alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,uk.politics.misc
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:39:51 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-1D22FD.1...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: eea407f9.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>>
>> # From: hdangsaf <h...@ng.saf>
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:12:48 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <hd-450732.21...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: a7605eb4.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> # From: A Nony Mouse <vir...@nowhere.com>
>> # Newsgroups:
>>
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.philosophy,alt.atheism.satire,aus.religion,alt.usenet.kooks
>>
>> # Subject: Re: The Problem with atheism is that it has never had a
>> Reformation or needed one.
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 10:48:50 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <virgil-EE1295....@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: 729cae45.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The impersonation, forgery and cyberstalking
>> were enabled and allowed by
>>
>> Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>>
>> Eventually complaints about Vurgils cyberstalking and
>> post forgery led to his internet account being closed.
>>
>> HeE's now back as Vurgil.
>>
>> Virgil has made clear his purpose in cyberstalking,
>> it is to stop his targets from posting;
>>
>> "stop posting to alt.atheism, and we will stop"
>>
>> - Virgil aka Chung aka BJChung aka..
>> Message-ID: <ABC-D0FDCD.0...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>>
>>
>> # From: Chung <A...@cde.com>
>> # Newsgroups:
>>
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,aus.politics,uk.politics.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
>>
>> # Subject: Re: How Theist Spammers and Forgers like fasgnadh abuse
>> alt.atheism when they have plenty of newsgroups of their own.
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:44:35 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-D0FDCD.0...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: b2cd6dbd.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> #
>> # > "hdangsaf" aka "ABCHUNG" aka "Chung" aka "fasgnadh
<stu...@gemail.com>"
>> # > aka ..., the atheist forger, sockpuppet and spammer
>> #
>> #
>> # stop posting to alt.atheism, and we will stop
>> #
>> # >
>> # > Atheists should let let Usenet Monster Unlimited -
>> # > http://www.usenetmonster.com ..know that you appreciate their
>> # > support of atheist USENET parasites, spammers, impersonators
>> # > and forgers, enabling their Cyber-stalking of individual believers.
--
---------
Atheists are in retreat:
raven1
Mar 9, 2012, 9:10:44 AM3/9/12
to
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<snip>
In what universe do you think anyone is going to wade through 1047
lines of your nonsense to see if you actually have a point?
wrote:
<snip>
In what universe do you think anyone is going to wade through 1047
lines of your nonsense to see if you actually have a point?
raven1
Mar 9, 2012, 9:15:46 AM3/9/12
to
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 01:00:31 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<snip>
I see you've gone from posting 1047 lines of content-free drivel to
sharing only 338 lines of mindless tripe with the world. That's an
improvement, I guess, but still nothing to be proud of. Might I
suggest that you actually shut the fuck up for a while? (I know that
it is rude of me to silence a fool, but it would be cruel for me to
let you continue.)
wrote:
<snip>
I see you've gone from posting 1047 lines of content-free drivel to
sharing only 338 lines of mindless tripe with the world. That's an
improvement, I guess, but still nothing to be proud of. Might I
suggest that you actually shut the fuck up for a while? (I know that
it is rude of me to silence a fool, but it would be cruel for me to
let you continue.)
Vurgil
Mar 9, 2012, 1:50:28 PM3/9/12
to
In article <4un6r.4389$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
And no one at all has ever provided any evidence at all to prove it,
either, so at best it remains dubious, and at worst false.
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
fasgnadh quote mined:
łItąs very important to understand that these [future] Gods came into
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Or, better yet, the whole conversation:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
And no one at all has ever provided any evidence at all to prove it,
either, so at best it remains dubious, and at worst false.
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # came into being
> # - Richard Dawkins
No to those who read the whole sentence, and not merely the part
> # - Richard Dawkins
fasgnadh quote mined:
łItąs very important to understand that these [future] Gods came into
being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental
evolution.˛
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Or, better yet, the whole conversation:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. łProbably not.˛ He smiles and adds ,
łBut I wouldnąt want to be too dogmatic about that.˛
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
From which one sees how untrustworthy fasgnadh is as a source of facts.
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. łProbably not.˛ He smiles and adds ,
łBut I wouldnąt want to be too dogmatic about that.˛
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Vurgil
Mar 9, 2012, 1:53:34 PM3/9/12
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In article <x2o6r.4249$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
łItąs very important to understand that these [future] Gods came into
being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental
evolution.˛
Or the whole conversation:
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # came into being
> # - Richard Dawkins
NOte that Fasgnadh was careful not to quote the whole sentence:
> # - Richard Dawkins
łItąs very important to understand that these [future] Gods came into
being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental
evolution.˛
Vurgil
Mar 9, 2012, 2:03:38 PM3/9/12
to
In article <Oao6r.4252$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> > "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It1s highly
quote mine by omission the way you did.
far future was reached.
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Read the original, and see if my obvious commenting in brackets changed
any meanings. Certainly not as much as fasgnadh's deliberate omissions
did.
"[ ]" indicates my comments:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
> > "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It1s highly
> > plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
> > are God-like creatures."
>
> You have edited that text, I presented it unedited
Actually, you did not include that part at all.
> > are God-like creatures."
>
> You have edited that text, I presented it unedited
>
> Again you have changed the meaning by falsifying the text:
>
>
> > 3It1s very important to
> Again you have changed the meaning by falsifying the text:
>
>
> > understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
> > explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.
My insertions, being marked as insertiona, did not falsify, nor falsy
> > explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.
quote mine by omission the way you did.
>
> What Dawkin's said was
>
> "It's very important to understand that these Gods came into
> being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution."
But in context 'these gods" would not come into existence until Dyson's
> What Dawkin's said was
>
> "It's very important to understand that these Gods came into
> being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution."
far future was reached.
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Read the original, and see if my obvious commenting in brackets changed
any meanings. Certainly not as much as fasgnadh's deliberate omissions
did.
"[ ]" indicates my comments:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
Paul David Wright
Mar 9, 2012, 3:55:02 PM3/9/12
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And you call yerself an agnostic.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Mar 9, 2012, 3:56:26 PM3/9/12
to
His overwhelming, overbearing, hysterical hatred of us unbeliever
consumes him so much, that he can't help but express it.
PDW
Paul David Wright
Mar 9, 2012, 3:57:20 PM3/9/12
to
PDW
Budikka666
Mar 11, 2012, 1:46:00 PM3/11/12
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The deal we made was that *you* provide one item of positive
scientific evidence for a creation. Are you *ever* going to even
pretend you can or are you simply going to keep running from us like
the worthless bastard of a Christer freak you are, scum?
Budikka
scientific evidence for a creation. Are you *ever* going to even
pretend you can or are you simply going to keep running from us like
the worthless bastard of a Christer freak you are, scum?
Budikka
fasgnadh
Mar 12, 2012, 8:48:50 AM3/12/12
to
On 10/03/2012 1:10 AM, raven1 wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
Both Bukakke and Ravin1 CREATED responses(stupid lies) to my
> On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100, fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
CREATED postproving that Bukakke hasn't "Disproved Creation"
but has DEMONSTRATED IT!
Q.E.D.
The evidence Bukakke is still running from:
From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,alt.christnet.christianlife,
alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: Re: Bukakke fails to "Disprove Creation"
- actually CREATES a post PROVING that she lies!!! . B^D
gutless liar CHICKENSHIT Bukakke RUNS AWAY AGAIN,
Message-ID: <4un6r.4389$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100
> you actually have a point
One you and Bukakke fled from like Vampires from Holy Water
and atheists from the truth!
B^D
--
fasgnadh
Mar 12, 2012, 9:23:05 AM3/12/12
to
On 10/03/2012 6:03 AM, Vurgil wrote:
> In article<Oao6r.4252$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> But you have given us YOUR EDITED version!
>>
>>> "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It1s highly
>>> plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
>>> are God-like creatures."
>>
>> You have edited that text, I presented it unedited
>
> Actually, you did
>
>>
> In article<Oao6r.4252$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> But you have given us YOUR EDITED version!
>>
>>> "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It1s highly
>>> plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
>>> are God-like creatures."
>>
>> You have edited that text, I presented it unedited
>
> Actually, you did
>
>>
>> Again you have changed the meaning by falsifying the text:
>>
>>
>>> 3It1s very important to
>>> understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
>>> explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.
>
> My insertions
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/TMHO0nh9GAI/AAAAAAAAEEg/rZYicPYdES4/s1600/Head-Up_Ass.png
>>
>>
>>> 3It1s very important to
>>> understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
>>> explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.
>
> My insertions
Explains why you get so many headaches..
and why you talk so much shit! B^D
>>
>> What Dawkin's said was
>>
>> "It's very important to understand that these Gods came into
>> being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution."
>
> But in context 'these gods" would not come into existence
future tense speculations of Dyson into past tense.
>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
>
> my obvious commenting in brackets changed any meanings.
Of course, that's why I post the text without your attempts to change
> my obvious commenting in brackets changed any meanings.
the plain meaning.
>
> "[ ]" indicates my comments:
>
>
> [
]
>
> "Doesn¹t that description sound an awful lot like God?"
>
> [ ]
>
> "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It¹s highly
> plausible that in the [ ] universe there
> are God-like creatures."
Theists have been telling atheists that for centuries.. NOW atheists
claim to have invented the idea!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
>
> "It's very important to understand that these [ ]
> Gods came into being by an explicable scientific
Where's the proof!
There is none.. the atheist Gods are a FICTION!
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
>> alt.politics.democrats,aus.politics,uk.politics.misc,
>> alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,
>> alt.religion,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
>> # Subject: Re: How Theist Spammers and Forgers like fasgnadh abuse
>> alt.atheism when they have plenty of newsgroups of their own.
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:44:35 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-D0FDCD.0...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: b2cd6dbd.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> #
>> # > "hdangsaf" aka "ABCHUNG" aka "Chung" aka "fasgnadh
<stu...@gemail.com>"
>> # > aka ..., the atheist forger, sockpuppet and spammer
>> #
>> #
>> # stop posting to alt.atheism, and we will stop
>> #
>> # >
>> # > Atheists should let let Usenet Monster Unlimited -
>> # > http://www.usenetmonster.com ..know that you appreciate their
>> # > support of atheist USENET parasites, spammers, impersonators
>> # > and forgers, enabling their Cyber-stalking of individual
>> # > believers.
>> alt.atheism when they have plenty of newsgroups of their own.
>> # User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.5.2 (PPC Mac OS X)
>> # Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 02:44:35 -0600
>> # Message-ID: <ABC-D0FDCD.0...@bignews.usenetmonster.com>
>> # Organization: Usenet Monster Unlimited - http://www.usenetmonster.com
>> # NNTP-Posting-Host: b2cd6dbd.unlimited.usenetmonster.com
>> # X-Trace:
>>
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>>
>> # X-Complaints-To: killthe...@usenetmonster.com
>> #
>> # > "hdangsaf" aka "ABCHUNG" aka "Chung" aka "fasgnadh
<stu...@gemail.com>"
>> # > aka ..., the atheist forger, sockpuppet and spammer
>> #
>> #
>> # stop posting to alt.atheism, and we will stop
>> #
>> # >
>> # > Atheists should let let Usenet Monster Unlimited -
>> # > http://www.usenetmonster.com ..know that you appreciate their
>> # > support of atheist USENET parasites, spammers, impersonators
>> # > and forgers, enabling their Cyber-stalking of individual
Vurgil
Mar 12, 2012, 1:16:18 PM3/12/12
to
In article <Cgm7r.4382$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
The source
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
actually says:
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being by
an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
And even more fully:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
> # came into being
> # - Richard Dawkins
Quote-mining is a form of lying, fasgnadh!
> # - Richard Dawkins
The source
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
actually says:
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being by
an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
And even more fully:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
Vurgil
Mar 12, 2012, 1:35:09 PM3/12/12
to
In article <JMm7r.4514$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
and carefully concealed the fact that you were deleting the most
relevant part of the sentence you quote-mined from.
You posted:
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being"
Where the original said:
łItąs highly plausible that in the universe there are God-like
creatures. Itąs very important to understand that these Gods came
As a part of a discussion of of what cold transpire in the far future of
Dyson's imaginings.
Here is the whole:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
łCertainly,˛ Professor Dawkins replies. łItąs highly
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 10/03/2012 6:03 AM, Vurgil wrote:
> > In article<Oao6r.4252$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> > fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> But you have given us YOUR EDITED version!
> >>
> >>> "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It1s highly
> >>> plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
> >>> are God-like creatures."
I, at least, made it clear what I had added, whereas you deliberately
> On 10/03/2012 6:03 AM, Vurgil wrote:
> > In article<Oao6r.4252$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
> > fasgnadh<fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> But you have given us YOUR EDITED version!
> >>
> >>> "Certainly," Professor Dawkins replies. "It1s highly
> >>> plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
> >>> are God-like creatures."
and carefully concealed the fact that you were deleting the most
relevant part of the sentence you quote-mined from.
You posted:
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being"
Where the original said:
łItąs highly plausible that in the universe there are God-like
creatures. Itąs very important to understand that these Gods came
into being by an explicable scientific progression of incremental
evolution.˛
As a part of a discussion of of what cold transpire in the far future of
Dyson's imaginings.
Here is the whole:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And heąs
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesnąt that description sound an awful lot like God?"
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.˛
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
around a religious bend. łItąs very important to
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks heąs gone
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
fasgnadh
Mar 15, 2012, 4:14:56 PM3/15/12
to
raven1 tries to protect Chicken Bukakke with weak ad hom and lies:
> On 13/03/2012 12:09 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Budikka666 CREATES another post, claiming it "Disproves Creation" :
>>
>> B^D Priceless!
>> - actually CREATES a post PROVING that she lies!!! . B^D
>> pretended they don't exist! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>
>> Here is Bukakke avoiding the evidence ALL CAN SEE:
>>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/TMHO0nh9GAI/AAAAAAAAEEg/rZYicPYdES4/s1600/Head-Up_Ass.png
>>
>>
>> Here's a few more for you to snip because YOU CAN'T "DISPROVE CREATION":
>>
>> Wind creating sound, waves creating coastal formations, people creating
>> babies, atheists creating a series of totalitarian tyrannies that killed
>> over 80,000,000 people.. secular democracies created by
>> majority religious societies...
>>
>> You CREATED your response, weak and incoherent as it is,
>> thus Creation occurs.
>>
>> Your claim to have disproved creation is falsified by the facts.
>>
>> Run along and shriek like a Banshee:
>>
>> Which one of those clearly manifest examples of CREATION are you
>> claiming you can disprove?
>>
>> Are you *ever* going to even pretend you can?
>>
>> or are you simply going to keep running from us?
>>
>>
>>> like the worthless bastard
>>
>> I'm sure you like all kinds of worthless things.. like atheism! B^D
>>
>>> a Christer freak you are
>>
>> No, I'm an agnostic,
>
> Bullshit.
Aw, look, just like his atheist heroes, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot,
the nasty little atheist shitpig wants to define what OTHER people
believe or don't believe!!! B^p
You idiots PRETEND you are Psychics, when really you are psychotics!
You actually believe that YOU can know, without any proof,
what people believe better than they do!
And you IGNORE,SNIP and RUN from all the EVIDENCE
which proves you wrong!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA
You and Bukakke are believers in your OWN myths and fantasies! B^[
So, where is your evidence that I am NOT an agnostic, when I know
that I am! B^]
Unlike theists and atheists I don't PRETEND to know if God exists or
not.. we agnostics understand that there can be no proof that God does
not exist, and while there is copious evidence, [even Richard Dawkins
claims that it is highly plausible there are Gods in the Universe
(atheists are very confused and self-contradictory ;-] there is
no absolute proof that God exists, despite Dawkins claim that the
evolution of God is quite plausible! B^D pfffffft!
I'm not the theist, Profit DAWKINS IS!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA
You atheist liars and totalitarian thugs CANNOT IMPOSE your lunatic
notions on others anymore, the days of forcible atheist indoctrination
are OVER, which is why atheism is in terminal decline, because without
FORCE, atheism is just not chosen by many people at all! B^]
If you atheist stooges just managed your OWN beliefs, rather than trying
to PROJECT and IMPOSE them on other people, your atheism might be a
little less despised:
>>> Budikka
>>
>>
>> Still unable to prove a single example of created things being created!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>
>> This is like shooting fish in a barrel! B^D
>>
>>
>> How's that Altar of Atheism you claimed below to have CREATED,
>> you hypocritical wanker? B^D
> On 13/03/2012 12:09 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Budikka666 CREATES another post, claiming it "Disproves Creation" :
>>
>> B^D Priceless!
>>
>>> The deal we made was that *you* provide one item of positive
>>> scientific evidence for a creation.
>>
>> I provided DOZENS;
>>> The deal we made was that *you* provide one item of positive
>>> scientific evidence for a creation.
>>
>>
>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
>> alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
>> Subject: Re: Bukakke fails to "Disprove Creation"
>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
>> alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
>> - actually CREATES a post PROVING that she lies!!! . B^D
>> gutless liar CHICKENSHIT Bukakke RUNS AWAY AGAIN,
>> Message-ID: <4un6r.4389$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100
>>
>> ..you snipped them all and
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100
>>
>> pretended they don't exist! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>
>> Here is Bukakke avoiding the evidence ALL CAN SEE:
>>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/TMHO0nh9GAI/AAAAAAAAEEg/rZYicPYdES4/s1600/Head-Up_Ass.png
>>
>>
>> Here's a few more for you to snip because YOU CAN'T "DISPROVE CREATION":
>>
>> Wind creating sound, waves creating coastal formations, people creating
>> babies, atheists creating a series of totalitarian tyrannies that killed
>> over 80,000,000 people.. secular democracies created by
>> majority religious societies...
>>
>> You CREATED your response, weak and incoherent as it is,
>> thus Creation occurs.
>>
>> Your claim to have disproved creation is falsified by the facts.
>>
>> Run along and shriek like a Banshee:
>>
>> Which one of those clearly manifest examples of CREATION are you
>> claiming you can disprove?
>>
>> Are you *ever* going to even pretend you can?
>>
>> or are you simply going to keep running from us?
>>
>>
>>> like the worthless bastard
>>
>> I'm sure you like all kinds of worthless things.. like atheism! B^D
>>
>>> a Christer freak you are
>>
>> No, I'm an agnostic,
>
> Bullshit.
Aw, look, just like his atheist heroes, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot,
the nasty little atheist shitpig wants to define what OTHER people
believe or don't believe!!! B^p
You idiots PRETEND you are Psychics, when really you are psychotics!
You actually believe that YOU can know, without any proof,
what people believe better than they do!
And you IGNORE,SNIP and RUN from all the EVIDENCE
which proves you wrong!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA
You and Bukakke are believers in your OWN myths and fantasies! B^[
So, where is your evidence that I am NOT an agnostic, when I know
that I am! B^]
Unlike theists and atheists I don't PRETEND to know if God exists or
not.. we agnostics understand that there can be no proof that God does
not exist, and while there is copious evidence, [even Richard Dawkins
claims that it is highly plausible there are Gods in the Universe
(atheists are very confused and self-contradictory ;-] there is
no absolute proof that God exists, despite Dawkins claim that the
evolution of God is quite plausible! B^D pfffffft!
I'm not the theist, Profit DAWKINS IS!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA
You atheist liars and totalitarian thugs CANNOT IMPOSE your lunatic
notions on others anymore, the days of forcible atheist indoctrination
are OVER, which is why atheism is in terminal decline, because without
FORCE, atheism is just not chosen by many people at all! B^]
If you atheist stooges just managed your OWN beliefs, rather than trying
to PROJECT and IMPOSE them on other people, your atheism might be a
little less despised:
>>
>>
>> Still unable to prove a single example of created things being created!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>
>> This is like shooting fish in a barrel! B^D
>>
>>
>> How's that Altar of Atheism you claimed below to have CREATED,
>> you hypocritical wanker? B^D
>>
>> ---------
>>
>> Atheists are in retreat:
>>
>> Profit Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>> ---------
>>
>> Atheists are in retreat:
>>
Vurgil
Mar 15, 2012, 11:37:35 PM3/15/12
to
In article <25s8r.4626$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being by an
Note that that same article
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
also says:
Arenąt the theologianąs questions ‹ Why are we here?
Is there something larger than us? Why do we die? ‹
central to the human project?
Professor Dawkins shakes his head before the question is out.
His impatience with religion is palpable, almost wriggling alive
inside him. Belief in the supernatural strikes him as incurious,
which is perhaps the worst insult he can imagine.
łReligion teaches you to be satisfied with nonanswers,˛
he says. łItąs a sort of crime against childhood.˛
And please spare him talk of spiritualism, as if that were the
only way to meditate on the wonder of the universe. łIf you
look up at the Milky Way through the eyes of Carl Sagan, you
get a feeling in your chest of something greater than yourself˛,
he says. łAnd it is. But itąs not supernatural.˛
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # came into being
> # - Richard Dawkins
Actually the entire sentence from which fasgnadh quote-mined is:
> # - Richard Dawkins
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
And the entire quoted conversation goes:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
also says:
Arenąt the theologianąs questions ‹ Why are we here?
Is there something larger than us? Why do we die? ‹
central to the human project?
Professor Dawkins shakes his head before the question is out.
His impatience with religion is palpable, almost wriggling alive
inside him. Belief in the supernatural strikes him as incurious,
which is perhaps the worst insult he can imagine.
łReligion teaches you to be satisfied with nonanswers,˛
he says. łItąs a sort of crime against childhood.˛
And please spare him talk of spiritualism, as if that were the
only way to meditate on the wonder of the universe. łIf you
look up at the Milky Way through the eyes of Carl Sagan, you
get a feeling in your chest of something greater than yourself˛,
he says. łAnd it is. But itąs not supernatural.˛
fasgnadh
Mar 16, 2012, 2:57:08 AM3/16/12
to
Budikka666 the screeching harradin still snips and runs:
>> - actually CREATES a post PROVING that she lies!!! . B^D
>> for you to jam your head up you ignorant ranting nutjob.
>>
>> > scum?
>>
>> No thanks, I wouldn't want to deprive you of your dinner.
I thought I'd let Bukakke shriek and whine for a few days, and
see if they ever intend to ADDRESS THE ISSUES.. but they are still
CREATING pathetic ad hom shit-splatters with no content, just like
any loser who is running from the argument and wants to create some smoke:
> No one reads your airhead adolescent horse-shit you worthless ass-
> wipe. You babble like a baby, you get CUT. Got that shit-for-brains?
You seem a tad hysterical, can't you find a way to CREATE a refutation
of a SINGLE one of the numerous examples of CREATION I have provided.
{snicker B^}
You look so silly and your spluttering rage is just hilarious!
> There's one challenge - one question -
Yes, I mocked your idiotic claims that you were "Disproving Creation"
(in scores of posts you CREATED ;-) And So I CREATED posts giving
examples of similar CREATION.
Your claims are Disproved.
Carry on Shrieking, you mad bitch: B^D
> and you're RUNNING and CRYING
> like the blubbering baby you are.
You are creating a fuss.. which further disproves your ridiculous
claim that creation is disproved!
You do know the diffference in meaning between the English words
"creation" and "Creationism", don't you, you ignorant ranting lunatic?
Do you really think everyone is as stupid and gullible as your atheist
cronies when the EVIDENCE in these threads, preserved in the Google
archives for me to remind you all for years to come, shows that
you SNIP all the evidence I provide refuting your idiotic claim to have
"Disproved Creation" and RUN from my rational, and correct arguments.
While I leave your ranting, abuse, ad hom and slander here for all to
see and laugh at:
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA
> Here it is again
Another weak attempt by you to change the subject? B^D
What else can you use for an attempted distraction?
> asswipe;
Do you really think that will impress anyone.. most
of us already learned how to do that as children,
we don't care to watch you try and master it as an adult!
> answer
> the question or admit you've been thrashed:
>
> POST *ONE* ITEM* OF POSITIVE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR A CREATION
Already done, you just snip it.
Google archive documents the posts you have created.
> OR FOR A CREATOR?
You don't know that you created posts!?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA
We all treat them as being as MEANINGLESS, and UNIMPORTANT as you do!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA
> Your failure to directly address this
All can see that I just did, again.. now you will snip it and
screech like a mad banshee!
That is clearly
YOUR OPEN AND UNCONDITIONAL ADMISSION THAT YOU'VE HAD YOUR DUMB,
IGNORANT ASS HANDED TO YOU.
B^D
> you worthless piece of Christer shit?
What's a Christer?
You seem to keep making up words, Humpty! B^]
> Budikka
--
> On 13/03/2012 12:09 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Budikka666 CREATES another post, claiming it "Disproves Creation" :
>>
>> B^D Priceless!
>>
>>> The deal we made was that *you* provide one item of positive
>>> scientific evidence for a creation.
>>
>> I provided DOZENS;
>>
>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
>> alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
>> Subject: Re: Bukakke fails to "Disprove Creation"
>> Budikka666 CREATES another post, claiming it "Disproves Creation" :
>>
>> B^D Priceless!
>>
>>> The deal we made was that *you* provide one item of positive
>>> scientific evidence for a creation.
>>
>> I provided DOZENS;
>>
>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
>> alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
>> - actually CREATES a post PROVING that she lies!!! . B^D
>> gutless liar CHICKENSHIT Bukakke RUNS AWAY AGAIN,
>> Message-ID: <4un6r.4389$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100
>>
>> ..you snipped them all and
>> pretended they don't exist! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>
>> Here is Bukakke avoiding the evidence ALL CAN SEE:
>>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/TMHO0nh9GAI/AAAAAAAAEEg/rZYicPYdES4/s1600/Head-Up_Ass.png
>>
>>
>> Here's a few more for you to snip because YOU CAN'T "DISPROVE CREATION":
>>
>> Wind creating sound, waves creating coastal formations, people creating
>> babies, atheists creating a series of totalitarian tyrannies that killed
>> over 80,000,000 people.. secular democracies created by
>> majority religious societies...
>>
>> You CREATED your response, weak and incoherent as it is,
>> thus Creation occurs.
>>
>> Your claim to have disproved creation is falsified by the facts.
>>
>> Run along and shriek like a Banshee:
>>
>> Which one of those clearly manifest examples of CREATION are you
>> claiming you can disprove?
>>
>> Are you *ever* going to even pretend you can?
>>
>> or are you simply going to keep running from us?
>>
>>
>> > like the worthless bastard
>>
>> I'm sure you like all kinds of worthless things.. like atheism! B^D
>>
>> > a Christer freak you are
>>
>> No, I'm an agnostic, whose just ripped you a new arsehole
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100
>>
>> ..you snipped them all and
>> pretended they don't exist! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>
>> Here is Bukakke avoiding the evidence ALL CAN SEE:
>>
>> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/TMHO0nh9GAI/AAAAAAAAEEg/rZYicPYdES4/s1600/Head-Up_Ass.png
>>
>>
>> Here's a few more for you to snip because YOU CAN'T "DISPROVE CREATION":
>>
>> Wind creating sound, waves creating coastal formations, people creating
>> babies, atheists creating a series of totalitarian tyrannies that killed
>> over 80,000,000 people.. secular democracies created by
>> majority religious societies...
>>
>> You CREATED your response, weak and incoherent as it is,
>> thus Creation occurs.
>>
>> Your claim to have disproved creation is falsified by the facts.
>>
>> Run along and shriek like a Banshee:
>>
>> Which one of those clearly manifest examples of CREATION are you
>> claiming you can disprove?
>>
>> Are you *ever* going to even pretend you can?
>>
>> or are you simply going to keep running from us?
>>
>>
>> > like the worthless bastard
>>
>> I'm sure you like all kinds of worthless things.. like atheism! B^D
>>
>> > a Christer freak you are
>>
>> for you to jam your head up you ignorant ranting nutjob.
>>
>> > scum?
>>
>> No thanks, I wouldn't want to deprive you of your dinner.
>>
>>> Budikka
>>
>>
>> Still unable to prove a single example of created things being created!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>
>> This is like shooting fish in a barrel! B^D
>>
>>
>> How's that Altar of Atheism you claimed below to have CREATED,
>> you hypocritical wanker? B^D
>>
>>> Budikka
>>
>>
>> Still unable to prove a single example of created things being created!
>>
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>
>> This is like shooting fish in a barrel! B^D
>>
>>
>> How's that Altar of Atheism you claimed below to have CREATED,
>> you hypocritical wanker? B^D
>>
>> ---------
>>
>> Atheists are in retreat:
>>
>> Profit Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>>
>> Atheists are in retreat:
>>
see if they ever intend to ADDRESS THE ISSUES.. but they are still
CREATING pathetic ad hom shit-splatters with no content, just like
any loser who is running from the argument and wants to create some smoke:
> No one reads your airhead adolescent horse-shit you worthless ass-
> wipe. You babble like a baby, you get CUT. Got that shit-for-brains?
You seem a tad hysterical, can't you find a way to CREATE a refutation
of a SINGLE one of the numerous examples of CREATION I have provided.
{snicker B^}
You look so silly and your spluttering rage is just hilarious!
> There's one challenge - one question -
Yes, I mocked your idiotic claims that you were "Disproving Creation"
(in scores of posts you CREATED ;-) And So I CREATED posts giving
examples of similar CREATION.
Your claims are Disproved.
Carry on Shrieking, you mad bitch: B^D
> and you're RUNNING and CRYING
> like the blubbering baby you are.
You are creating a fuss.. which further disproves your ridiculous
claim that creation is disproved!
You do know the diffference in meaning between the English words
"creation" and "Creationism", don't you, you ignorant ranting lunatic?
Do you really think everyone is as stupid and gullible as your atheist
cronies when the EVIDENCE in these threads, preserved in the Google
archives for me to remind you all for years to come, shows that
you SNIP all the evidence I provide refuting your idiotic claim to have
"Disproved Creation" and RUN from my rational, and correct arguments.
While I leave your ranting, abuse, ad hom and slander here for all to
see and laugh at:
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAA
> Here it is again
Another weak attempt by you to change the subject? B^D
What else can you use for an attempted distraction?
> asswipe;
Do you really think that will impress anyone.. most
of us already learned how to do that as children,
we don't care to watch you try and master it as an adult!
> answer
> the question or admit you've been thrashed:
>
> POST *ONE* ITEM* OF POSITIVE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR A CREATION
Already done, you just snip it.
Google archive documents the posts you have created.
> OR FOR A CREATOR?
You don't know that you created posts!?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA
We all treat them as being as MEANINGLESS, and UNIMPORTANT as you do!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA
> Your failure to directly address this
All can see that I just did, again.. now you will snip it and
screech like a mad banshee!
That is clearly
YOUR OPEN AND UNCONDITIONAL ADMISSION THAT YOU'VE HAD YOUR DUMB,
IGNORANT ASS HANDED TO YOU.
B^D
> you worthless piece of Christer shit?
What's a Christer?
You seem to keep making up words, Humpty! B^]
> Budikka
--
Vurgil
Mar 16, 2012, 3:17:18 AM3/16/12
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In article <8vB8r.4500$v14....@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
nature is white.
The full sentence from which he snipped the above bit says
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being by
an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
But even more important is to read Dawkins entire conversation:
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ---------
>
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # "Itąs very important to understand that these Gods
> ---------
>
> Atheists are in retreat:
>
> Pope Dawkins declares Atheist Gods exist:
>
>
> # came into being
> # - Richard Dawkins
fasgnadh the fallacious is quote-mining again to try and prove his black
> # - Richard Dawkins
nature is white.
The full sentence from which he snipped the above bit says
łItąs very important to understand that these Gods came into being by
an explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.˛
fasgnadh
Mar 16, 2012, 11:17:18 PM3/16/12
to
On 13/03/2012 4:24 AM, Vurgil wrote:
> On 13/03/2012 12:09 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>> Budikka666 CREATES another post, claiming it "Disproves creation" :
> On 13/03/2012 12:09 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>
>> B^D Priceless!
>
> And it does!
You poor idiot, by CREATING a post they prove creation occurs and
that they are the creator of the object created!
The EXACT opposite of what that raving lunatic claimed,
and proving MY point perfectly!
Now Bukakke and you are attempting to shift ground and
try and make our argument about CreationISM, but it has
ALWAYS been about creation, as you can see here:
>>> The deal we made was that *you* provide one item of positive
>>> scientific evidence for a creation.
asking for scientific evidence of >>creation<<.. apparently Bukakke
has not only never experienced sex for procreative purposes, but never
even HEARD OF IT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA
No surprises there, who would pollute the human gene pool
by allowing Bukakke to swim in it!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAA
Of course it is not hard to demonstrate creation, light creates shadows,
Vurgil creates lies and slanders, Bukakke creates stupid posts claiming
that creation is disproved, despite all the examples the atheists snip
and pretend are non-existent;
>> I provided DOZENS;
>
> Nonsense!
No, you merely snipped them and LIED:
>> From: fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.christianity,talk.atheism,
>> alt.agnosticism,alt.philosophy,alt.usenet.kooks
>> - actually CREATES a post PROVING that she lies!!! . B^D
>> gutless liar CHICKENSHIT Bukakke RUNS AWAY AGAIN,
>> Message-ID: <4un6r.4389$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100
>>
>> ..you snipped them all and
>> pretended they don't exist! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>
>> Here is Bukakke
and Vurgil, et al
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:21:37 +1100
>>
>> ..you snipped them all and
>> pretended they don't exist! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
>>
>> Here is Bukakke
>> avoiding the evidence ALL CAN SEE:
>>
>>
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4YFhK87NXPE/TMHO0nh9GAI/AAAAAAAAEEg/rZYicPYdES4/s1600/Head-Up_Ass.png
>>
>> "DISPROVE" creation:
>>
>> Wind creating sound,
>> waves creating coastal formations,
>> people creating babies,
>> atheists creating a series of totalitarian tyrannies that killed
>> over 80,000,000 people..
>> secular democracies created by majority religious societies...
>>
>> You CREATED your response, weak and incoherent as it is,
>> thus Creation occurs.
Q.E.D.
>> Wind creating sound,
>> waves creating coastal formations,
>> people creating babies,
>> atheists creating a series of totalitarian tyrannies that killed
>> over 80,000,000 people..
>> secular democracies created by majority religious societies...
>>
>> You CREATED your response, weak and incoherent as it is,
>> thus Creation occurs.
Now because these pathetic, lying, ignorant, scientifically
illiterate, dishonest atheist shitpigs cannot admit the truth,
they are attempting to shift the argument to CreationISM, which
I have never advocated, and told them so from the outset.
But they simply IGNORE the facts, because the ONLY way they can
justify their BLIND BELIEF in their own ridiculos position is
to PROJECT their own STRAWMAN position, anti-CreationISM, onto
me, an agnostic who clearly believes in evolution.
It is sad to see atheists reduced to such a pathetic state that their
only piss-weak tactic to avoid the humiliation the so richly deserve
is to lie about their opponents position, and then debate their
STRAWMAN FABRICATION!
because they sure-as-shit can't honestly debate what I SAY! B^]
The are routed.
(Use the American pronunciation, if you like, it fits! ;-)
>> Your claim to have disproved creation is falsified by the facts.
>>
>> Run along and shriek like a Banshee:
>>
>> Which one of those clearly manifest examples of CREATION are you
>> claiming you can disprove?
>>
>> Are you *ever* going to even pretend you can?
>>
>> or are you simply going to keep running from us?
>
> the biblical accountof creation
You and Bukakke now try to introduce the 'biblical account', you lying
atheist shitpigs.
Bukakke claimed to have "Disproved creation", it wasn't Capitalised,
it wasn't claiming to "Disprove CreationsISM", it didn't say
Disproving the Biblical account of Creation" and I set out the exact
argument I have restated above, that creation does NOT equal
the doctrine of Creationism, you obsessive DOGMATIC LYING SCIENTIFICALLY
ILLITERATE FUCKWITS ... but because you are intellectually dishonest,
you and Bukakke simply choose to
pretend otherwise.
Light creating shadows does not require the 'biblical account'
of anything.
Creation is simply a physical REALITY, common, ubiquitous, ever-present.
You are now trying to move the discussion to one about religion,
because you and Bukakke have LOST this one!
I will continue to mock you mercilessly!
The Bible, the Talmud, the Qur'an .. are NOT scientific
texts.
But neither are they as STUPID and ignorant of science as to claim they
COULD, let alone HAVE, 'Disproved creation' B^D
Only you thick-as-pigshit atheists would attempt anything that ridiculous!
>>> like the worthless bastard
>>
>> I'm sure you like all kinds of worthless things.. like atheism! B^D
>>
>>> a Christer freak you are
>>
>> for you to jam your head up you ignorant ranting nutjob.
The atheists are so doctrinaire and dogmatic in their beliefs,
and so obsessional about fundamentalist viewpoints which don't
even reflect mainstream CHRISTIAN viewpoints, let alone rational
agnostics like myself, that they have to invent strawmen, and project
them onto their opponents.. thus they debate NOT WHAT I SAY, but what
they WANT ME TO BE SAYING!
It's a form of complete MADNESS on their part! B^]
And I delight in exposing them as fools just as RABID, DOCTRINAIRE,
DOGMATIC and FANATICAL as the fundie extremists they are constantly
arguing with (because they are dopplegangers! B^)
>>> scum?
>>
>> No thanks, I wouldn't want to deprive you of your dinner.
>>
>>> Budikka
>>
>>
>> Still unable to prove a single example of created
>> things being created!
Watch Bukakke run from the act of creation and deny it exists.
>> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>
>> This is like shooting fish in a barrel! B^D
>>
>>
>> How's that Altar of Atheism you claimed below to have CREATED,
>> you hypocritical wanker? B^D
>> ..Atheist activist Bukakke has built an
>> Atheist altar to worship them;
>>
>> # From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
>> alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
>> # Subject: Disapproving Creation:
>> # Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
>> # Message-ID:
>> <b5430732-e52e-45b5...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
>> #
>> #
>> #> come worshiping at the altar of atheism,
Hey Bukakke.. if you Atheists CREATED an Altar of Atheism,
>> Atheist altar to worship them;
>>
>> # From: Budikka666 <budi...@netscape.net>
>> # Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
>> alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
>> # Subject: Disapproving Creation:
>> # Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
>> # Message-ID:
>> <b5430732-e52e-45b5...@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
>> #
>> #
>> #> come worshiping at the altar of atheism,
then you are the Creator of the atheist Creation!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAA
No wonder other atheists are lined up to try and become religions: B^D
>> ...and national atheist bodies have formally applied to be recognised
>> as a religion:
>>
>> # It's Official, Atheists claim to be a persecuted RELIGION: B^D
>> #
>> #
>> # "THE Atheist Foundation of Australia has lodged complaints
>> # of religious discrimination in Melbourne and Hobart
>> #
>> # "atheism counts as a religion, Dr Perkins said."
>> # The Age 29/1/2009
>>
>>
>> # "It¹s very important to understand that these Gods
>> # came into being
>> # - Richard Dawkins
>
> That is an incomplete sentence
>> # came into being
>> # - Richard Dawkins
>
Because what is missing is ANY PROOF that those atheist God's
"have come into being" at all! 8^o
No names, no dates, no location where it is supposed to have happened,
How Many? Do they eat and breathe? Take a dump?
Are they as FUCKING STUPID as the atheist cretins we see online?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA
The other thing the BLIND BELIEVERS in Profit Dawkins can't
explain is "How did these God's you atheists believe in {snicker}
and who are immaterial beings of "Intelligent energy" have the
physical mutations required for Natural Selection)"
> "It's very important to understand that these Gods came
> into being by an explicable scientific progression of
> incremental evolution.²
In fact, how do any >>supernatural<< beings undergo
>>Natural Selection<< in this bizarre, profoundly UNSCIENTIFIC
atheist heresy and complete distortion of, EVOLUTION....
...which they clearly can't explain because they JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAND IT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAA
>
> After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
> far afield.
is waiting to embrace such speculative drivel about Atheist Gods as
Gospel Truth! B^D
Read about atheist beliefs in the God's they CLEARLY YEARN FOR, so
desperately at First Church of the Atheist Deities:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Absolutely HILARIOUS!
In just a few years we have witnessed the decay of Atheism to
such a point that they have IMAGINEERED their OWN GODS to BELIEVE IN!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAA
Vurgil
Mar 17, 2012, 1:35:25 AM3/17/12
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In article <UmT8r.4661$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>,
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
�Certainly,� Professor Dawkins replies. �It�s highly
around a religious bend. �It�s very important to
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.�
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. �Probably not.� He smiles and adds ,
�But I wouldn�t want to be too dogmatic about that.�
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
he says. �It�s a sort of crime against childhood.�
And please spare him talk of spiritualism, as if that were the
only way to meditate on the wonder of the universe. �If you
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 13/03/2012 4:24 AM, Vurgil wrote:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
> On 13/03/2012 4:24 AM, Vurgil wrote:
After two hours of conversation, Professor Dawkins walks
far afield. He talks of the possibility that we might
co-evolve with computers, a silicon destiny. And he�s
intrigued by the playful, even soul-stirring writings
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
"Doesn�t that description sound an awful lot like God?"
of Freeman Dyson, the theoretical physicist.
In one essay, Professor Dyson casts millions of speculative
years into the future. Our galaxy is dying and humans have
evolved into something like bolts of superpowerful
intelligent and moral energy."
[So the context of discussion is now established as being
in Dyson's far future, and the following must be interpreted
in that context]
[Again establishing that the context is Dyson's future universe]
plausible that in the [Dyson future] universe there
are God-like creatures.�
He raises his hand, just in case a reader thinks he�s gone
are God-like creatures.�
around a religious bend. �It�s very important to
understand that these [future] Gods came into being by an
explicable scientific progression of incremental evolution.�
Could they be immortal?
The professor shrugs. �Probably not.� He smiles and adds ,
�But I wouldn�t want to be too dogmatic about that.�
The complete article appeared in print on September 20, 2011, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
Note that that same article
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
also says:
Aren�t the theologian�s questions � Why are we here?
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/science/20dawkins.html?pagewanted=all
also says:
Is there something larger than us? Why do we die? �
central to the human project?
Professor Dawkins shakes his head before the question is out.
His impatience with religion is palpable, almost wriggling alive
inside him. Belief in the supernatural strikes him as incurious,
which is perhaps the worst insult he can imagine.
�Religion teaches you to be satisfied with nonanswers,�
central to the human project?
Professor Dawkins shakes his head before the question is out.
His impatience with religion is palpable, almost wriggling alive
inside him. Belief in the supernatural strikes him as incurious,
which is perhaps the worst insult he can imagine.
he says. �It�s a sort of crime against childhood.�
And please spare him talk of spiritualism, as if that were the
look up at the Milky Way through the eyes of Carl Sagan, you
get a feeling in your chest of something greater than yourself�,
he says. �And it is. But it�s not supernatural.�
get a feeling in your chest of something greater than yourself�,
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