Huzzah! Simpson guilty on all charges in robbery trial - faces life in prison Heisman Trophy Winner is now just another NWN
Capitalist Pig
Oct 4 02:33 AM US/Eastern
By LINDA DEUTSCH
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LAS VEGAS (AP) - O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to
celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was found
guilty Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in
a Las Vegas hotel room.
Simpson, 61, could spend the rest of his life in prison. Sentenced was
set for Dec. 5.
A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges were
read by the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was immediately
taken into custody.
The Hall of Fame football star was convicted of kidnapping, armed
robbery and 10 other charges for gathering up five men a year ago and
storming into a room at a hotel-casino, where the group seized several
game balls, plaques and photos. Prosecutors said two of the men with
him were armed; one of them said Simpson asked him to bring a gun.
The verdict came 13 years to the day after Simpson was cleared of
murdering his ex-wife and a friend of hers in Los Angeles in one of
the most sensational trials of the 20th century.
Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence "C.J." Stewart, 54, also was found
guilty on all charges and taken into custody.
Simpson showed little emotion as officers handcuffed him and walked
him out of the courtroom. His sister, Carmelita Durio, sobbed behind
him. As spectators left the courtroom, Durio collapsed and paramedics
were called, court spokesman Michael Sommermeyer said.
Jurors made no eye contact with the defendants.
Judge Jackie Glass made no comment other than to thank the jury for
its service and to deny motions for the defendants to be released on
bail.
She refused to give the lawyers extended time to file a motion for new
trial, which under Nevada law must be filed within seven days. The
attorneys said they needed time to submit a voluminous record.
"I've sat through the trial," Glass said. "If you want a motion for
new trial, send me something."
From the beginning, Simpson and lawyers argued the incident was not a
robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been stolen from
him. He said he did not ask anyone to bring a weapon and did not see
any guns.
The defense portrayed Simpson as a victim of shady characters who
wanted to make a buck off his famous name, and police officers who saw
his arrest as an opportunity to "get" him and avenge his acquittal.
Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was
irrelevant; it was still a crime to try to take things by force.
"When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far side
of the room, pulling out guns and yelling, `Don't let anybody out of
here!'—six very large people detaining these two victims in the room
with the intent to take property through force or violence from them—
that's kidnapping," prosecutor David Roger said.
Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed
robbery carries a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind
bars, and could bring as much as 30.
Simpson, who now lives in Miami, did not testify but was heard on a
recording of the confrontation screaming that the dealers had stolen
his property. "Don't let nobody out of this room," he declared and
told the other men to scoop up his items, which included a photo of
Simpson with former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover.
Four other men charged in the case struck plea bargains that saved
them from potential prison sentences in return for their testimony.
Some of them had criminal records or were otherwise compromised in
some way. One, for example, was an alleged pimp who testified he had a
revelation from God telling him to take a plea bargain.
Memorabilia dealer Thomas Riccio, who arranged and secretly recorded
the hotel-room confrontation, said he netted $210,000 from the media
for the tapes.
Similarly, minutes after the Sept. 13, 2007, incident, one of the
alleged victims, sports-memorabilia dealer Alfred Beardsley, was
calling news outlets, and the other, Bruce Fromong, spoke of getting
"big money" from the case.
Simpson's past haunted the case. Las Vegas police officers were heard
in the recordings chuckling over Simpson's misfortune and crowing that
if Los Angeles couldn't "get" him, they would.
During jury selection, Simpson's lawyers expressed fears that people
who believed he got away with murder might see this case as a chance
to right a wrong.
As a result, an usually large pool of 500 potential jurors was called,
and they were given a 26-page questionnaire. Half were almost
instantly eliminated after expressing strong feelings that Simpson
should have been convicted of murder.
The judge instructed the jurors to put aside Simpson's earlier case.
In closing arguments, defense attorney Yale Galanter acknowledged that
what Simpson did to recover his memorabilia was not right. "But being
stupid, and being frustrated is not being a criminal," he said.
He added: "This case has taken on a life of its own because of Mr.
Simpson's involvement. You know that. I know that. Every cooperator,
every person who had a gun, every person who had an ulterior motive,
every person who signed a book deal, every person who got paid money,
the police, the district attorney's office, is only interested in one
thing: Mr. Simpson."
Mitchell Holman
you hate African Americans? I know where you live in Champ sur Marne
France. I would feel very good about sending some around and hurting you
very badly. I am not joking.
Capitalist Pig <cochon-ca...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:48e8fc09-
c2ee-4b7c-92e...@e17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> BWARHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
th...@anhywhere.usa
OJ is a sleazeball. Just because he was a football hero doesn't make
him above the law.
And get over that "We iz been slaves fo fo hundid yauz" crap and
become law abiding citizens.
Docky Wocky
the jury room earlier?
Marks Avana
Another leftwinger that thought he could get away free bites the dust.
John Rennie
"Marks Avana" <marks...@hexample.net> wrote in message
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I think you're confused. Possibly because of the colour of defendant's
skin. It was Simpson who was pronounced guilty not Barak Obama.
Donna Evleth
> From: Marks Avana <marks...@hexample.net>
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> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:45:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: Huzzah! Simpson guilty on all charges in robbery trial - faces
> life in prison Heisman Trophy Winner is now just another NWN
>
> Another leftwinger that thought he could get away free bites the dust.
Has anyone documented O.J. Simpson's political leanings? if so, please tell
us about it. What are they?
Donna Evleth
JohnDoe
He will spend a lot of time with his liberal buddies.
Explosive Video, Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and the Dems the "Family"
and "Conscience" of Fannie Mae
Mitchell Holman
news:C50D71C5.70F86%dev...@wanadoo.fr:
OJ is going away for the rest of his life; I don't think a person like OJ
Simpson who murdered his ex-wife and an innocent bystander has any real
political concerns. Perhaps a president Obama will pardon OJ, after all OJ
was a victim of the white man's justice system.
Donna Evleth
> From: Mitchell Holman <Noe...@comcast.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,talk.politics.misc
> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:53:41 -0500
> Subject: Re: Huzzah! Simpson guilty on all charges in robbery trial - faces
> life in prison Heisman Trophy Winner is now just another NWN
>
> Donna Evleth <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in
> news:C50D71C5.70F86%dev...@wanadoo.fr:
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>>
>>
>>> From: Marks Avana <marks...@hexample.net>
>>> Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,talk.politics.misc Date:
>>> Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:45:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Huzzah! Simpson guilty
>>> on all charges in robbery trial - faces life in prison Heisman
>>> Trophy Winner is now just another NWN
>>>
>>> Another leftwinger that thought he could get away free bites the
>>> dust.
>>
>> Has anyone documented O.J. Simpson's political leanings? if so,
>> please tell us about it. What are they?
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>>
>>
>
> OJ is going away for the rest of his life; I don't think a person like OJ
> Simpson who murdered his ex-wife and an innocent bystander has any real
> political concerns. Perhaps a president Obama will pardon OJ, after all OJ
> was a victim of the white man's justice system.
This is an interesting situation. When the original verdict came down in
the murder trial, there were blacks who rejoiced. The reason? Not because
they cared about O.J. Simpson, but because for them it meant that a black
man had won in a white man's court, that money had trumped race.
Now the tables have turned. O.J. would have been better off to take his
incredible victory and keep a low profile forever after. But he didn't.
I assume with regard to Obama, your comment is irony.
Donna Evleth
Mitchell Holman
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>> From: Mitchell Holman <Noe...@comcast.com>
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>> Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:53:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Huzzah! Simpson guilty
>> on all charges in robbery trial - faces life in prison Heisman
>> Trophy Winner is now just another NWN
>>
>> Donna Evleth <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in
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> I assume with regard to Obama, your comment is irony.
>
> Donna Evleth
>
>
I really do think a President Obama will spend a good portion of his first
months in office pardoning African Americans who are incarcerated because
they didn't have enough money to hire big name lawyers and win acquittals
like OJ. The number of African Americans in prison is disproportionate to
the percentage of African Americans. A president Obama will rectify this
situation and pardon a substantial number until the US prison population
reflects the racial mix of the US.
John Rennie
"Mitchell Holman" <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote in message
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Strange comments, Mitch. He's made no such election promises that I've seen
anyway. 'A good proportion of his first months in office' will be devoted
to unravelling the economic mess left by the previous incumbent. Indeed
most of his time in office will be spent on such activity.
Blackwater
<Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>Donna Evleth <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in
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>>> From: Mitchell Holman <Noe...@comcast.com>
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,talk.politics.misc Date:
>>> Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:53:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Huzzah! Simpson guilty
>>> on all charges in robbery trial - faces life in prison Heisman
>>> Trophy Winner is now just another NWN
>>>
>>> Donna Evleth <dev...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in
>>>
>> I assume with regard to Obama, your comment is irony.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>>
>>
>I really do think a President Obama will spend a good portion of his first
>months in office pardoning African Americans who are incarcerated because
>they didn't have enough money to hire big name lawyers and win acquittals
>like OJ.
OJ got a bona-fide kangaroo court. Hell, jury selection
took forever because they had SO much trouble finding
people who wouldn't ADMIT they were out to 'get' OJ for
believed past wrongdoings. The entire trial was a shameful
debacle on many levels.
OJ may indeed have robbed some robbers - but HIS crime
pales in comparison to the savage rape perpetrated on
Lady Justice and the American ideal of fairness.
As for Obama ... I don't see him getting away with much
"black power" or even "Marxist" crap. Like Jackie Robinson,
he'll have to be extra nice.
It's the NEXT 'minority' president with radical ties we
need to worry about. After the Jackie Robinsons came
the Michael Vicks .....
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
> Strange comments, Mitch. He's made no such election promises that I've seen
> anyway. 'A good proportion of his first months in office' will be devoted
> to unravelling the economic mess left by the previous incumbent. Indeed
> most of his time in office will be spent on such activity.
And most of hist time will result in failure.
If Obama wins then he will take the poisoned chalice that is the
Presidency and do what he can with it. Under better circumstances, he
could have been as successful as Clinton but, I suspect, any Obama
Presidency will be regarded by history as mediocre at best.
Mitchell Holman
news:TeednRDHRoe...@giganews.com:
>
Obama is smart! If he said anything at all about freeing African Americans
who were unjustly convicted, the Republicans would drag out all those
"Willie Horton" ads that were so effective against Michael Dukakis in his
campaign. As President Barak Obama can free them with just the stroke of
his pen. You have to look at Barak Obama's devotion to his wonderful work
as a community organizer and his links with ACORN and the Chicago Annenburg
Challenge then you will agree. Barak Obama graduated from Harvard Law
School. He is very smart and he knows how to quietly get results in spite
of all the white racists in America. Getting results which it is all about.
Wouldn't you agree?
nys999
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What Vicks *RADICAL* ties? Dog fighting, yeah. But radical? Turn in that
ACLU card of yours, you're just a double-agent. Just a reichwing bigot.
Earl Evleth
"Mitchell Holman" <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
Most of the prisoners are held in state or local facilities, not Federal.
I think the President has only authority over the latter. Any impact on
the incarceration rate could be initiated at the Federal level by reducing
penalties for non-violent crimes, managing the convicted outside
institutions. That would be a long process and not over night.
Next, in the usual sense of the word, Obama is not an Afro-American. He
never really encountered that community until adulthood. He was raised
as a white person in a privileged environment. That does not show but that
does make him different, even a bit strange.
The issue of "who is Barak Obama" is often raised. DeGaulle one state that
to succeed in French politics one must not reveal the entire self, leave
something mysterious that the public can not quite fathom. Mitterand did
that and succeeded. Few American presidents have, Roosevelt may have come
the closest. But that formula for success in French politics might not work
in the US. Obama comes closest to not revealing all if himself. We will
know in a month if that works.
Mitchell Holman
news:C50F894D.1424B3%evl...@wanadoo.fr:
The Preident of the US can pardon anyone he wishes without asking anyone's
permission. Any action by the Federal government trumps the power of the
state governments. But from a practical standpoint if a President Obama
pardoned someone in a state penetentiary, and the governor of that state
tossed President Obama's pardon in the wastebasket the African American
community across the country would rise up and America would be trashed
from the Atlantic to the Pacific. But considering how all the white racists
would suffer, that might not be such a bad thing, don't you think?
Earl Evleth
"Mitchell Holman" <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
> But considering how all the white racists
> would suffer, that might not be such a bad thing, don't you think?
What I think is that Obama would not do anything really radical. Along
with the leadership of Congress and by jawboning the various states he
might get things moving in the new direction.
By the way a good book reviewing US incarceration policies is Miller's
book "Search and Destroy". The author essentially takes what I would
call a Marxist position, that US incarceration policies are formulated
with the intent of keeping the Black low wage earners handicapped
in order to provide cheap labor. When Jim Crow was fully enforced
in the South, social control of Blacks there was guaranteed, but their
move north created a new situation. So the prison populations of
prisons outside the south gradually changed so that they are now
Black by about 50%. This was not true in the 1920s, for instance.
The other fact is that for the same crimes Blacks are sent to prison
longer than Whites.
Again, Obama had no cultural background in all of this, he is racially
the "odd man out". His father belonged to a class of educated
Africans immigrant who as a body are well educated (some 50% of them
possess college degrees). They are not part of the American Black
experience. Even at that Obama had little contact with his father
since the marriage ended while he was young.
Donna Evleth
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> Subject: Re: Huzzah! Simpson guilty on all charges in robbery trial - faces
> life in prison Heisman Trophy Winner is now just another NWN
>
And here is another legacy of the Bush presidency that I have to consider.
Bush has made "mediocre" look not too bad. I also agree, however, that
Obama has his work cut out for him. Bush has made such a monumental mess of
just about everything that recovery will be a long hard slog.
Donna Evleth
Blackwater
Why not just admit that you weren't smart enough
to get my analogy ? :-)
Racial 'pioneers' have to be NICE, INOFFENSIVE, DEFERENT,
TOLERANT ... "good examples". But once the way is paved,
well, later travelers can be as nasty as they want to be.
nys999
@news.east.earthlink.net:
Oh, I see. We start with a nice racial pioneer like Lincoln (ending
slavery) just to end up with a lying bigot like you.
BTW, I do acknowledge to not being smart, never claimed to be. Wish I was.
My IQ has been measured to being hardly high average.
But it would be nice if you admitted not being smart to realize how
morally ugly a person you are. [No similey]
Planet Visitor II
Total and absolute rubbish. The President of the U.S. may only pardon
for FEDERAL CRIMES. The article in question in the U.S. Constitution
states -- "The President ... shall have power to grant reprieves and
pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of
impeachment."
Obviously, that limits his powers to FEDERAL CRIMES, and not offenses
against individuals in State courts, such as a convictions for capital
murder in a State court.
For an official reading of that pardon power, See --
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/pardon_instructions.htm
See where it says -- "Federal convictions only"?? Of course, it also
includes convictions by the Superior Court of the District of Columbia
and military court-martials, because they are considered Federal
venues. But not State crimes, you moron.
Don't you EVER research what you write???? Or is your only reason for
posting here to act as a sock-puppet?
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
Planet Visitor II
The U.S. President does NOT have the power to pardon anyone convicted
of murder by a State court. Only Federal crimes are pardonable by the
president. See --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon
Quote --
"United States:
In the United States, the pardon power for Federal crimes is granted
to the President by the United States Constitution, Article II,
Section 2."
...
The pardon power of the President extends only to offenses cognizable
under U.S. Federal law. However, the governors of most states have the
power to grant pardons or reprieves for offenses under state criminal
law. In other states, that power is committed to an appointed agency
or board, or to a board and the governor in some hybrid arrangement."
Unquote
Don't you ever research ANYTHING you write, Mitchell???
Planet Visitor II
Unfortunately, true no matter who gets elected. Clearly no human on
this planet is capable of in four years cleaning up the mess Bush will
leave behind.