Re: Proof that Desmond is not Jewish (12)
John Rennie
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
news:b9pSd.76302$pc5....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Feb 21, 2005
>
> Rather than upset the sensitivities of the readers here, who do
> not mind that Desmond continues to perpetuate a lie in
> claiming he is Jewish, I will no longer respond to each and
> every one of his lies, and simply offer this proof, perhaps
> once each day, if I feel it necessary to prove that he is
> lying.
>
> I would have preferred, had it been permitted, that some other
> person, more suited to the task, more eloquent and persuasive
> and less controversial in AADP than I am had risen to insist that
> Desmond is lying. And in that lie using it to insult the Jews.
> John Rennie has, of course, stated that he knows factually that
> Desmond is not Jewish. And a person would be a fool to take
> Desmond's word, before that of John Rennie. And we have only
> Desmond's _word_ that he is Jewish. A _word_ that has been
> recognized as worthless, in various other demonstrations of giving
> his _word_ and then ignoring having given it. My talents in
> persuasion are well recognized as meager, nor has it ever
> been my purpose to be persuasive here. It is my opinion that
> Desmond has continued to use the lie that he is Jewish, for no
> other purpose than to attack Jewish interests. He fully admits
> to having attacked Jewish interests, and has asserted that he
> is "anti-Jewish government." He believes offering pro-Jewish
> posts is enough for him to find that poster is a Nazi. The fact
> that Desmond's particular lie has unraveled is not from what I
> say here, but from what Desmond himself, has said. Said both
> here in AADP, in his various comments intended to insult the
> victims of the Holocaust, and the Jews in general, and what he
> said personally to John in which he revealed that he felt it was a
> "great joke" he was playing on AADP, and nothing more.
>
> Yet this particular lie of his is one which should trouble us all.
> Especially abolitionists, who pride themselves on possessing
> a greater magnitude of morality than retentionists. His is an
> insult to the Jews. And this is an insult to humanity. Desmond
> has insisted that the Holocaust is no different than a DP that
> kills proven murderers. No... even beyond that.. he has insisted
> that the Holocaust was NOT murder, but that killing proven
> murderers IS murder. His strident and shrill insults to the Jews
> are stunning in their hate. His words in one single post about
> the slaughter of the Jews in the Holocaust were -- "It was not
> considered 'murder', you illiterate s*****c (quick, FuckWit
> ... get the censorship going ... ROFLMAO !!!)..." And in the
> very same post, only a few lines later, he then spoke of the
> execution of convicted murderers in the U.S., with his words --
> "... just as the death penalty in the United States is quite clearly
> murder". Yes, Desmond finds that the Nazis killing Jews was
> not murder... while the execution of proven murderers is
> murder. See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6900914872c2e11c
> Is anyone so blind as to not see that he feels the Jews are actually
> guilty of some crime while he believes the Nazis are legally innocent
> of killing a single Jew, and that he also believes murderers are not
> guilty of any crime, while the U.S. is legally guilty of murdering
> murderers?
>
> He has also insisted that it was legal for the Nazis to find the Jews
> guilty of being "inhuman." He has declared that it is no insult to
> the Jews to insist they were legally guilty of some _crime of being
> "inhuman," and that the Nazis are legally as pure as the driven
> snow, and have no legal guilt attached to killing a single Jew.
> Yet he insisted that it IS an insult to the proven murderer Roger
> Coleman to claim that Coleman was legally killed. He offers
> over and over, that the Jews killed by the Nazis are no better
> than proven murderers killed in the U.S. DP. He equates six
> million innocent Jews with less than a thousand proven
> murderers. And equates 2.5 million Jews slaughtered in
> Auschwitz, with some 300 proven murderers executed in
> Texas after an open trial by their peers, a unanimous verdict
> by those peers, and decades of due process. He sees
> absolutely no difference between them, and declares that
> Auschwitz is the same as Texas, because Auschwitz
> killed innocent Jews, and Texas kills convicted murderers.
> In sum... his arguments have been that _morally_, HE would
> not personally kill a Jew... but he just doesn't think that killing
> Jews should be declared illegal.
>
> History reveals no civilized people among whom there are a
> more educated, civilized, less-violent nature. And Desmond
> offers that insult in claiming he is Jewish. In his comparing that
> vast number of those educated, civilized, less-violent natured
> humans, to no better than convicted murderers.
>
> What kind of a person would claim to be Jewish, just so he can
> attack Jewish interests? That would be the poster who signs
> himself as a Jew, and has now been proven to not be Jewish.
>
> Desmond is NOT Jewish. In one of the most sweeping and
> diabolical frauds ever attempted in AADP, Desmond hopes to
> heap lie upon lie. He only changed his handle to insult the
> idea that there are actually a Jewish people. Actually, now
> laughing in the face of the Jews. To insult the birthright that
> belongs to those Jews who wish to claim it, if such a birthright
> exists, which Desmond argues does not exist. His new handle
> was created only with his smug contempt for the Jews. It is
> only his effort to add "insult to injury" to the Jews.
>
> As usual, when Desmond gets caught in a lie, he believes that
> in typical Nixon fashion, with a sly wink and a nod to his
> supporters, he can _tough it out_, by offering a bigger and
> bigger lie, in his use of the _I am not a crook_, defense.
> With Desmond frequently employing the same technique, insisting
> that "I do not lie;" said just shortly after being caught in a lie.
>
> Yes... there are SEVEN facts now... all that prove together that
> Desmond is not Jewish....In his own words, in the manner,
> methods and purpose of his posts, and from someone who
> personally knows him. Seven distinct and separate facts in
> evidence that prove he is not Jewish.
>
> PROOF ONE --
> Desmond does not believe in a God... thus he cannot claim
> to be Jewish through that religion.
>
> His own words have often denied his belief in any God... and he
> is thus an atheist, and by definition a Gentile. Not of the Jewish
> faith. Some of his comments verifying that --
>
> Desmond's words to St. George... "I'm not, St.George. In fact, I don't
> even believe in God."
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/d4ab45212a2c1b90
>
> And another of his denials that he believes in God --
> "If I believed in God, I would get down on my knees every day and
> thank Him for not having me born in the United States."
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/3624781d6d62163d
>
> And yet another, rather insulting characterization of God as
> seen through the eyes of the believers in the Judaic religion --
> "Whilst not necesarily subscribing to the Judeo-Christian
> myths of heaven and hell, and a benevolent God wearing a
> beard and with a Polo mint floating above His head." See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/613c8bf853c349ee
>
> And yet again.. disputing the ideas contained in the Judaic
> religion -- "man's pretentiousness in believing that 'God'
> created him in His image." See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/dbe011767da5ec34
>
> And yet again -- his words -- "I dissociate myself from the 'classic'
> Judeo-Christian... idea of 'spirituality', and consider the soul, as
> distinct from any organised religion. " See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/60e1309f49538200
>
> And a great many further comments in which he has insisted
> that he does not believe in "A God," and certainly not the God
> believed in by those of the Jewish religious faith
>
> PROOF TWO --
> Desmond has insisted that no one is a "born Jew," thus he cannot
> claim he is Jewish through any ethnic descent that he does not
> even believe in.
>
> In fact, Desmond was born in Clydebank, Scotland, and his family
> is pure Scottish (Celtic... as corrected by Mr. Rennie), and
> has been so for as many generation as are known. His primary
> education from the ages of 12 until 18 was in "Our Lady's High
> School," in Cumbernauld, Scotland. A Roman Catholic
> school. See --
> http://www.northlan.gov.uk/education+and+learning/schools/secondary/our+ladys+high+cumbernauld.html
> And both his given name and his family name leave no doubt that
> he has no Jewish ancestry to speak of. See --
> http://website.lineone.net/~tam.c/spare/coughlan.htm
>
> And he has denied that there is even a possibility of anyone being
> a "born Jew" with his words -- "No one is 'BORN' (sic) a Jew, you
> spagmerchant."
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5
>
> And another denial for Desmond -- With his words -- No, you
> moronic, spag; no one can be 'born Jewish'. Judaism is a religion."
> See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/f62191c0ccd74d6b
>
> And in another post of his, insisting that it is a lie to believe that
> one can be "born Jewish" -- his words -- "As FuckWit seems
> to be a 'born liar', perhaps that's why he believes that one can
> be 'born Jewish'." See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/efe6cdb49c9e55dd
>
> And he agreed with another poster in the claim that "It is abusive -
> and even linguistically abusive - to state that we were "born Jew". See -
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/f863f4c9ac1946e6
> He certainly cannot claim to be Jewish "through birth," if he does not
> even believe that anyone can be Jewish "through birth."
>
> And again, insulting the idea of someone being born Jewish... His
> words -- " It is _impossible_ to be 'born Jewish', you illiterate
> ignoranamus." Another almost hysterical denial that there are any
> ethnic Jews. No human born Jewish. Which appears to argue that
> no human is born Arab. See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/eb667e4f22d5a564
>
> And yet another comment from Desmond insisting that one
> cannot be "born Jewish." See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/fe77165eb9c97b72
>
> And yet... and yet... Desmond claims about himself in another post,
> that "... I was 'born Jewish'" See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6
> he tends to argue that he IS 'born Jewish,' and deny he is 'born
> Jewish,' at his whim. While he insists that no one can be both
> Jewish and non-Jewish, yet if he claims to be Jewish, he meets
> the definition of someone who is non-Jewish such a person being
> a Gentile. See --
> http://www.bartleby.com/61/81/G0088100.html
> GENTILE -- "One who is not of the Jewish faith or is of a non-Jewish
> nation." And Desmond has insisted, above. that he does not
> subscribe to Judeo-Christian beliefs. And France is certainly not
> a Jewish nation.
>
> Of course the idea of "born Jews" is quite recognized among Jews,
> and someone claiming the be Jewish, could hardly insist that this
> has no meaning. See --
> http://www.convert.org/committe.htm
> http://tinyurl.com/47th8
> http://www.adatchaverim.org/outreach/index.asp
> https://www.ajc.org/InTheMedia/Publications.asp?did=132&pid=625
> http://www.interfaithfamily.com/article/issue100/essex.phtml
> http://www.jewishmediaresources.com/article/551/
>
> And on and on and on... While Desmond would deny these Jews, while
> insisting that he is Jewish, through some imaginary source.
>
> PROOF THREE --
> John Rennie knows Desmond personally, and has stated Desmond is
> not Jewish.
>
> Desmond became rather enraged at this disclosure and insisted that
> John was _honor bound_ not to reveal Desmond's lie. John has offered
> nine separate posts, each of them insisting that he knows Desmond
> personally, and that Desmond confirmed to him that he was not Jewish,
> and in fact felt it was a "great joke" he was playing on AADP, and found
> it a source of both amusement and laughter that the group members
> could be so gullible.
>
> John Rennie even offered one of those posts in total capital letters to
> emphasize what Desmond had revealed to him. Those words from
> John were --"DESMOND UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO
> ME THAT HE WAS NOT JEWISH. AT THE TIME OF OUR
> MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL
> DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS NOT BORN JEWISH, HE
> DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY, HE DOES NOT
> PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION." See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130
>
> For the other either posts in which John Rennie insists that Desmond told
> him
> personally he was not Jewish... see -
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88ddf61f66103c23
> and --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7de48ccdc5134fa6
> and --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6d1f8b26ecc2e586
> and --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/a0f6e1599b1af6e1
> and --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/95b0f9b74699a829
> and --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/bb814afa5b6af340
> and --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/187ae7f0a4ca9303
> and --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c51c42a5192089e8
>
> And when John revealed this... Desmond began frothing at the mouth yet
> again, and responded by insisting that John must abide by some code
> of _liar's omertà_, and not publicly reveal his lie, in Desmond's
> words...
> "even if I _did_ tell you such a thing, you would not have the right to
> divulge that information." And then went on to accuse John of having
> blackmailed him in the past. See --
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9b2f5751cadd1a28
> Desmond will try to smear ANYONE who might threaten his lie.
> Rather obvious from the ugly names he has called anyone who does
> threaten his lie.
>
> PROOF FOUR --
> Desmond displays a cold, brutal and savage method in attacking
> the Jews..
>
> Including all of those obscene ravings, claiming that a Jewish
> stepfather was a pedophile, demanding that other human beings
> kill themselves, conclusively prove otherwise. Desmond is
> without a heart, and the Jewish people are recognized as
> compassionate, gentle and humane in their ethnic descent.
> One could even say that this has been passed down as a
> meme, because of their own persecution over probably 5000
> years. While Desmond is devoid of all compassion. And
> there is an indescribable anger and rage in him, that the
> Jews do not demonstrate. Inside of him lies a strong distaste
> for the Jews, often expressed here.
>
> It is disgusting for him to continue to offer that phony claim that he
> is Jewish so he can attack the Jews. He is attempting to perpetrate
> the greatest hoax ever attempted in AADP, in order for him to
> attack Jewish interests throughout the world. Witness his
> frequent explosive outbursts... lashing out in brutality, rage and
> hate, repeated so often in so many posts. A typical comment
> he often offers to those he perceives as his _enemies_ ---
>
> "<thump! ... hammer! ... crash! ... thwack! ...
> pummel-pummel-pummel ... 'spnak' (sic) ... 'spnak' (sic)
> ...'spnak' (sic) ... whump-squeal! ... slap... punch ... kick ...
> 'spnak' (sic) ... 'spnak' (sic) ...hammer! ...thrash ... thump!
> ... whump-squeal ... 'spnak' (sic) ...pummel-pummel-pummel ...
> bash! ... beat! ... 'spnak' (sic) ... 'spnak'(sic) ...
> 'spnak' (sic) ... >"
>
> Does that sound like someone who is Jewish? Someone who
> is gentle, and humane and not accustomed to using brutal
> methods? Not hardly... it looks more like something from
> Attila the Hun.
>
> He has also established a claim for disgust of what he called
> "state-sponsored suicide," but has no problem establishing and
> supporting his own "Desmond-sponsored suicide," by frequently
> demanding that another poster commit suicide.
>
> PROOF FIVE --
> Desmond's many comments which disparage, _make fun_ of
> the Holocaust, or insist that the Jews murdered in the holocaust
> cannot be seen as different from any murderer executed in the
> U.S. DP.
>
> Reducing those innocent victims to no better than proven
> murderers, or objects to ridicule. Insisting that those
> innocent victims of the holocaust were legally killed.
> Which obviously insists that the Nazis are legally
> innocent of killing a single Jew. He is quite insistent that
> the Nazis are legally innocent of killing even a single Jew.
>
> The number of times he has compared the Jews slaughtered
> in the Holocaust to being nothing better than any murderer
> executed in the DP in the U.S. is staggering. There must
> be a few score posts in which he has compared the holocaust
> to being no worse than the U.S. DP, and thus those innocent
> Jews murdered in the Holocaust, are seen by him as no
> different or better than those legally tried and convicted
> murderers executed in the U.S. DP. Even given the vast
> number of his posts that now no longer exist in google.
> For example, his comments such as --
>
> a) His words -- "the attempted extermination of the Jews
> was legal,"
>
> b) His words -- "German society said that the extermination
> of the Jews was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do ...,"
>
> c) His words -- "I state that the Holocaust is 'akin' to the death
> penalty"
>
> Six million innocent Jews killed, mechanically and methodically,
> in a degrading assembly line manner in a few short years...
> less that a thousand convicted murderers killed, given
> trials that demand unanimity from a jury of peers, and a
> decade of due process... no difference to Desmond.
> Six million innocent Jews <=> less than a thousand murderer,
> to him.
>
> d) His words -- "the issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in
> declaring Jews 'inhuman', were acting illegally. They were not."
>
> Desmond finding that it is LEGAL... to declare the Jews
> as "inhuman."
>
> e) His words -- "it _was_ legal to kill Jews in WWII,"
> Desmond fancies himself as a defender of murderers by
> insisting they have a "birthright" that prevents killing them,
> in his words elsewhere of -- "Everyone has the right to life.
> That right is a birthright: it is irrevocable. Governments do
> not bestow it, and governments certainly aren't empowered
> to revoke it." Apparently Desmond does not feel that
> "everyone" in his words, actually includes the Jews.
>
> f) His words -- "the death penalty in the United States is no
> more, or no less 'moral' or 'just' than the Final Solution.
> Many consider it to be so, but that is nothing more than
> a subjective value judgement. In the absolute, the Nazi
> Holocaust and the death penalty are perfect equivalents,
> both morally and legally."
>
> See how he equates the six million innocent Jews as
> "perfect equivalents" to less than a thousand proven
> murderers? Of course there is a difference despite
> Desmond's refusal to see it. Does anyone here... see
> what that difference is, between the Jews killed by the
> Nazis, and those murderers killed by the U.S.?
> Desmond doesn't see it. He sees those Jews as no
> different from those proven murderers in the _absolute_.
> In fact he sees six million innocent Jews as no different
> in _the absolute_ than the less than a thousand
> proven murderers executed in the U.S. in more than
> 25 years. _Absolutely the same_, to him. And he
> claims to be Jewish!!! Get out of here. He's a liar.
>
> g) His words -- "Make up your mind: either the Holocaust
> was mass murder, in which case, so is the death penalty,
> or the death penalty is 'just', in which case, so was the
> extermination of the Jews." Attempting to imply that
> the holocaust was no worse than the U.S. DP,
> again reducing the six million Jews killed by the
> Nazis, without the slightest effort to provide a trial,
> or due process, or even define a _crime_, to nothing
> better than the less than a thousand executed
> murderers, given an open trial by their peers, and
> a decade of due process. He argues there is no
> difference, which is only attempting to make the
> Jews to be no better than convicted murderers,
> as a ratio of more than 6,000 Jews to each murderer
> executed.
>
> h) Desmond once posed an argument that he
> stated retentionists often make to _justify the
> DP_. Offering that retentionists try to separate the
> idea of the Jews having been innocent, and murderers
> having murdered when retentionists make the
> statement -- "The Jews hadn't done anything;
> murderers have." Desmond REFUTED that claim
> with a single word answer -- "Irrelevant"!!! Imagine,
> he finds any mention of the difference between the
> innocence of the Jews, and the act of a murderer
> IS IRRELEVANT!!! Again, Desmond makes sure
> to insist that there is NO DIFFERENCE between
> an innocent Jew murdered in the Holocaust, and
> a murderer executed in the U.S. DP. They are
> exactly the same to him.
>
> i) His words -- "'The Holocaust' is a term used to
> refer to the legal execution of 6,000,000 Jews in the
> Second World War." While providing a definition
> that does not even use the word "legal."
>
> j) His words -- "Which still leaves that nagging
> question about those six million Jews 'lawfully
> executed' during WWII ..."
>
> k) His words -- "The Holocaust was 'a just execution
> for those found guilty of being Jewish'."
>
> Making a jest about the Holocaust (since this could
> not possibly be as grotesque as stated.... even for
> Desmond, regardless how much he despises the
> Jews) -- Why would anyone who is Jewish, make
> such a comment, even in sarcasm? What does that
> say to the victims? Apparently the Holocaust is really
> just a big joke to him.
>
> l) His words -- "Aside from the Nazi Holocaust, 'a just
> execution for those found guilty of being Jewish',
> European countries gave up their habit of 'invading
> formerly sovereign nations' centuries ago."
>
> ANOTHER ugly and evil comment from him, even if he
> is attempting to joke about the Holocaust -- Trying at
> the same moment to make a jest about the Holocaust,
> while being perfectly serious in defending European
> countries, in an obvious lie, given the great number
> of invasions of one sovereign European country by
> another in the past few centuries.
>
> m) His words -- "The Final Solution was not illegal
> under German law, Richard, and the 'laws' which were
> used to secure the Nürnberg hangings, were not written
> until (if my memory serves me correctly) 1949 or
> 1952 (one or the other)."
>
> In his bold attempt to offer an excuse for the legal innocence
> of the Nazis. Obviously, behind his words is the clear
> claim that any accusations of the Nazis having committed
> any illegal killings of the Jews in WW II, were efforts to
> apply ex post facto "law," meaning that he believed that
> such a "law" did not exist, and the Nazis were _home
> free and innocent_. Notice that he placed the words
> "law" in quotes in respect to any law that would have
> served to find a legal crime was committed by the Nazis,
> but had no reservations at all about asserting that the killing
> of the Jews by the Nazis was relevant and applicable
> _law_, not needing to be quoted, but his feelings.
>
> PROOF SIX --
> Desmond's various anti-Jewish comments, and insults
> to the Jews, which could not possibly be offered by any Jew.
>
> a) John Rennie asked Desmond if he didn't feel that it
> was an insult to those victims to argue that their deaths
> were legal. And Desmond... without missing a beat...
> felt it was not an insult to those victims, as long as he
> did not argue that their deaths were _moral_. As if any fool
> would argue that the holocaust was _moral_. He USES
> that claim to defend the legal innocence of the Nazis.
>
> Desmond claimed that this is no insult to the Jews who
> were killed to state that they were killed legally. However;
> when a past post of his is examined we see that he
> finds that Roger Coleman, a convicted murderer, had
> what Desmond insisted was "insult added to injury," to
> COLEMAN, in the U.S. lawfully executing Coleman.
> It seems that Desmond has two different sets of values
> for those he considers insulted in being killed by the state.
> One for the Nazis who he hopes to hide under the
> umbrella of legal innocence, and claim it is no insult to
> the Jews to insist that they were legally killed. And
> another for the U.S. in its execution of a proven
> murderer. A convicted murderer that Desmond finds
> had "insult added to injury" when he was killed as a
> convicted murderer. Desmond finds it was not "insult
> added to injury" to six million Jews for him to insist
> that they were killed legally. But believes that Roger
> Coleman, a proven murderer had "insult added to injury"
> when the state executed him under that same claim
> of killed legally.
>
> b) His ugly comparison of the 2.5 million innocent Jewish
> victims slaughtered in Auschwitz, to around 300 proven
> murderers executed in Texas. Arguing that one is the
> same as the other, and thus those 2.5 million innocent
> Jewish victims are no better to him than around 300
> proven murderers.
>
> c) His comment that the Jews commit "butchery," hiding
> behind the _excuse_ that they are _only Israelis_, while
> 80% of all Israelis are Jewish. Apparently feeling that
> accusing only 80% if the Jews of Israel of committing
> "butchery" in not enough to actually constitute anti-Semitism.
>
> d) His insisting that the U.S. is _run by the Jews_, and it
> would be better if the U.S. abandoned its "unwavering
> support" for the Jews... and let Israel presumably sink.
> It is my belief that his anti-Americanism can be traced
> as much to his anti-Jewish feelings as his anti-U.S.
> feelings. There is much to examine about his feelings
> in his claim that Americans are "lower down the evolutionary
> scale" than those he sees as _human beings_. Which has
> a strong resemblance to how the Nazis saw the Jews.
> Given that the U.S. has a Jewish population larger than
> that of Israel.
>
> e) His attack on the Jewish press -- calling it biased, while
> ignoring the fact that the Arab press often calls for the
> murder of the Jews, and praises Hitler.
>
> f) His defending an anti-Semitic remark made by the French
> Ambassador to England.
>
> g) His assertion that he is "anti-Jewish government." Given
> that a Jewish government represents the interests of the Jews,
> his comment is clearly anti-Jewish interests, which is defined
> in the word anti-Semitic.
>
> h) His bizarre claim that in the past 2000 years, during which
> European persecution of the Jews ran rampant, that Europe
> "in matters of morals has led the world..." While forgetting
> that in that same period, Europe experienced the holocaust,
> in addition to unbelievable persecution of the Jews. And he
> even invoked the name of "Christ," when speaking of those
> 2000 years, leaving the ugly taste that he finds that persecution
> acceptable because of "Christ."
>
> i) His despicable attack on the Jews, by accusing them of
> being responsible for 9/11. He has always emphatically
> denied that bin Laden had a hand in 9/11.
>
> j) His statement that the Jewish state of Israel is "the most
> anti-Semitic country on the planet." Once again, ignoring
> totally the anti-Semitic Arab world, in the definition of that
> word. An anti-Semitic Arab world that calls from a religious
> pulpit for the killing of ALL Jews. An anti-Semitic Arab world
> that teaches children to murder Jews in the _name of Allah_.
> And an anti-Semitic Arab world that provides the DP for any
> Arab to sell any land to any Jew. And in fact, there is no
> evidence that he has ever offered any comment which condemns
> Islam for the sickness within that religion, that kills Jews in
> the name of "Allah." He is critical of the DP everywhere, but
> I have never seen his criticize the DP placed into law by the
> Arabs to other Arabs who sell land to any Jew. He is defensive
> of Islam, and critical of the Jews in all cases. He supports
> the demise of the Jewish state of Israel by any means, and
> his comments leave the implication that he finds Zionism is
> itself racist.
>
> k) He has insisted that one of the active perpetrators of the holocaust
> (Maurice Papon) should be excused from punishment, because
> of _his age_.
>
> l) He has argued in various posts that it's been 60 years now,
> so the holocaust no longer looms as something that should
> deeply concern us, other than its _historical significance_.
> Rather seeing it as like the _black plague_, as an act of God,
> rather than man's inhumanity to his fellow man.
>
> m) He has insulted various known Jews here, and chased them
> away, with his insulting manner. One particular case being his
> threatening a Jew ... Andy Katz. In his words -- "Don't get in
> my way, or you will regret it." And Andy Katz took that very
> seriously as a threat, with part of it being because Andy is
> Jewish. Regular posters here know of another quite real
> threat Desmond made, that caused another regular poster to
> leave for some time, no longer able to handle Desmond's hate.
>
> n) Desmond's attempts to dismiss discrimination against the Jews --
> in his words -- "One could perhaps leave the Jews out of the
> equation concerning discrimination, but the fact is that the poor,
> blacks, Asians, and so on, are subjected to discrimination on
> a daily basis in the United States." I don't think that the Jews
> can be left out of ANY EQUATION concerning discrimination,
> even in the context of the U.S.
>
> o) Insulting the Jews, even as he claims he is Jewish, when
> someone asked him -- "Desmond, aren't you part-jewish btw? :)"
> And he replied -- "100 % ... ever since they took away my
> pullover ... ;-)" It seems even there he believes he can don
> and shed his Jewishness as he wishes.
>
> p) And then finding that the Jews are dishonest, even as he
> claims to be Jewish, in his words -- "Damn, can't help that
> dishonesty ... must be the Jewish in me."
>
> q) Of course in the midst of his lies in claiming he is Jewish, he
> uses that lie to accuse the Jews of _whining_ about the
> holocaust. In his words -- "Yet by milking those terrible events
> for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel and World Jewry
> (of which I am part) are only cutting their noses, to spite their face."
> Imagine that... claiming he is Jewish, and calling the Jews
> _whiners_ in the same sentence.
>
> r) And again, Desmond insists that the Jews only _whine_
> about the holocaust, to apparently commit what he sees as
> atrocities... in his words -- "certain sections of the Jewish
> community use the Shoah to justify their own excesses"
>
> s) And his efforts to take away the meaning of the word
> "anti-Semitic" in the English language. Taking great pains to
> redefine that term in the English language, which left the
> implication that he feels the Jews are USING that term to
> insist that it only applies to them. As when he insisted that
> "anti-Semitism" was -- "a word which FuckWit thinks _only_
> applies to those who harbour hatred for the Jews, and not
> the other half-dozen or so Semitic races ... *snigger*"
> Desmond abhors the thought that the Jews might actually
> have been the victims of the definition of that word... and
> even ends with a snide laugh at the idea that the word
> only applies to -- "hostility toward the Jews." Does anyone
> actually think that a Jew would try to DISMISS the meaning
> of that term?
>
> t) And anyone who dares to confront him in respect to his
> support for the legal innocence of the Nazis in killing the
> Jews, or offers any pro-Jewish or pro-Israel comment is
> called a "Nazi" or a "Nazi Bastard." He does this because
> he finds anyone who insists that the Nazis are not legally
> innocent of killing the Jews, or who offer any pro-Jewish,
> or pro-Israel comments are _Nazi sympathizers_. Because
> HE SEES the Jews as Nazis!!! And thus anyone supporting
> the Jews is such a sympathizer of those he sees as Nazis...
> the Jews... rather than those everyone knows are the real
> Nazis. He is a supporter of what another anti-Jewish
> poster has called "Jewish fascism." Insisting that the Jews
> have now taken on the persona of those who hoped to
> exterminate them 60 years ago. He thus finds someone who
> supports the Jews of Israel must be a "Nazi." After all he
> claimed they commit "butchery," claimed that they are the
> most anti-Semitic people on this planet, and insists that the
> U.S. in supporting the Jews of Israel is also _Nazi_. I believe
> that rational people find the Nazis committed "butchery,"
> and were the most anti-Semitic people on this planet, thus
> I can see how Desmond would find the Jews of Israel to
> be the same as "the Nazis." And thus, anyone who supports
> the Jews of Israel, must also be a "Nazi Bastard" in HIS
> EYES!.
>
> He does not see calling someone a "Nazi Bastard" because
> they insist that the Nazis are not legally innocent, or because
> they support Jewish interests, as an ad hominem. He sees
> it simply as _speaking the truth_. He firmly believes that
> those who support the Jews, are _Nazi sympathizers_,
> because he sees the Jews as _Nazis_.
>
> PROOF SEVEN --
> And finally... how he had so swiftly changed his handle...
> hoping that the stronger his lie... the more someone might
> believe him.
>
> As his lie begins to unravel, his lie becomes more sweeping.
> Now insisting on that lie in every post he offers here. Hoping
> to garner support for his lie, simply if he repeats it often enough.
> An attempt to bolster that lie in a transparent effort to follow
> the rule that Lenin insisted works... that the more the lie is
> repeated, the more that this lie is believed. But no one believes
> Desmond any longer.
>
> Because even by changing his handle... came the admission
> that he has been stung by this exposure that he is not Jewish.
> He felt threatened in his lie here for so many years now
> being exposed. So as usual... his reaction is simply to insist
> all that harder that the lie... is not a lie, if repeated often
> enough. The _denial of lying_ kicks in. Even the changing
> of his handle, demonstrates just how desperate he is to
> perpetuate that lie. Without it, he is exposed for what he
> is... an anti-Semite who opposes every Jewish interest.
> Someone who calls someone who support Jewish interests --
> a "Nazi bastard," because he sees those who do support
> Jewish interests as _Nazi sympathizers_ for supporting
> the Jews, who he sees as those "Nazis." While, as usual,
> in his effort to hide that lie... he adds "insult to injury" to
> the Jews, by literally laughing in their face, making a joke
> about a nonexistent claim to being Jewish, over and over
> and over... with that insistent and repetitive sham of a lie.
>
> But even that was not enough... Now comes his latest effort.
> Not just a claim that he is Jewish, but a claim that he is one
> of the victims of the holocaust! Now insisting over and over
> that he wears a yellow star just as those victims of the
> holocaust. In a final insult to those actual victims of the
> holocaust. After hurling an insult at them, insisting they were
> legally killed... he tries to cover himself with the same yellow
> star that they were forced to endure. Hoping to use the
> Nazi method of requiring every Jew in the holocaust to wear
> such a yellow star.
>
> And just as those Gestapo thugs operating the death camps and
> the concentration camps, when the allies swept through them,
> tried to put yellow stars on themselves, to pretend they were the
> victims rather than the victimizers, Desmond hopes to pass
> himself off as one of those Jewish victims, to hide the fact that
> he is instead... the victimizer. Hoping to pose as a victim of the
> holocaust... to cover up his lies.
>
> What he has done is absolutely the worst insult ever offered in
> AADP against the Jewish victims of the holocaust. Now trying
> to _play the role of one of them_. To posture himself as BEING
> one of those victims. No longer content with the lie that he is
> Jewish... but now playing the role of a _drama queen_, hoping
> to "milk" the holocaust for his own advantage. To have others
> see him as one of the victim of the Nazi death camps. While
> he has insisted that the Nazis are legally innocent of killing
> any Jews.
>
> Only a fool would accept his lie in claiming to be Jewish. But
> fools are in season in AADP. While it is certain that either
> Desmond or John Rennie is a liar... and I'll put 1000 to 1
> odds on it not being John.
>
> Now... I suspect that Desmond is in a bit of a rage...
> having been exposed as living a lie here... for so many years.
> And accusing John Rennie of not honoring what Desmond
> presumes is the _honor code of all liars_, to which Desmond
> demands that John Rennie is _honor bound,_ to hide
> Desmond's lie.. Desmond expect that old _honor among
> thieves_, to be valid for even those who are not thieves.
> But as John Rennie would not honor that _liar's code_, that
> Desmond insists is valid, I will also not honor it. Because in
> the end... Desmond is simply a liar.
>
Sorry, Jim. I feel I must give you a rest.
Jim Noles
Earl Evleth
"Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote:
> Rather than upset the sensitivities of the readers here,
Not upset, I just did not read it. My impression in glancing
at it enormous length was "WOW", PV has gone bonkers. He got
diddled to his limit and took seriously.
Earl
Jim Noles
he can attack the Jews, I can see why you wouldn't bother, Earl.
Anyone who attacks the Jews.. is a friend of yours.
JN
> Earl
>
Jim Noles
>
> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
> news:b9pSd.76302$pc5....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Feb 21, 2005
<clip>
If someone would be so kind as to repost this comment, so John
may see my remark this final time, I would appreciate it.
> Sorry, Jim. I feel I must give you a rest.
Sorry you feel that way. While it's not as if I post this every day, it's
always been your right to do whatever you feel you want.
But I'm about to make an offer to Desmond to end this. If he admits
that he has been lying all these years, and is not Jewish, and
agrees that he will not longer attack the Jews, Israel, or defend
the legal innocence of the Nazis, and in that one post, and that
one post only, removes his no-archive, I will immediately leave the
group and not return. You and I know he is lying, so it is only a
matter of him admitting it, which 100% vindicates you as any kind
of a liar in your assertions that he is not Jewish, and he will realize
his fondest wish.
While you have often disrespected me, I have always respected
you. Trying to look past the fundamental blindness that I see
in some of your views, and looking beneath that to see an honorable
person, while caught up in a determination to be more moderate
in your approach toward those who are European or who support
abolition, and more polarized and demanding of those who are
not European or abolitionists. But at heart... a good person
who was the very first poster here, who brought me to recognize
this group was more than what it might have seemed at first brush.
Goodbye, and take care.
JN
David Haley
fit to scribe:
>"John Rennie" <jo...@rennie69.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:cvd71a$t4a$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
>> news:b9pSd.76302$pc5....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> Feb 21, 2005
>
><clip>
>
>If someone would be so kind as to repost this comment, so John
>may see my remark this final time, I would appreciate it.
Reasonable enough, I suppose... John will read it if he so chooses.
But you should understand that if he has killfiled you it is because of your
(frankly) stupid 'campaign' regarding Desmond. Nobody cares, Jim. Not because we
believe in Desmond but because it's a stupid, stupid issue. Frankly I do not
understand why you take Desmond so seriously. It's as if he holds some strange
power over you. I also think he takes you too seriously and his behavior
disappoints me as well. But he doesn't seem to consider it all some grand moral
issue and this is what confuses me about you.
>> Sorry, Jim. I feel I must give you a rest.
>
>Sorry you feel that way. While it's not as if I post this every day, it's
>always been your right to do whatever you feel you want.
>
>But I'm about to make an offer to Desmond to end this. If he admits
>that he has been lying all these years, and is not Jewish, and
>agrees that he will not longer attack the Jews, Israel, or defend
>the legal innocence of the Nazis, and in that one post, and that
>one post only, removes his no-archive, I will immediately leave the
>group and not return. You and I know he is lying, so it is only a
>matter of him admitting it, which 100% vindicates you as any kind
>of a liar in your assertions that he is not Jewish, and he will realize
>his fondest wish.
>
>While you have often disrespected me, I have always respected
>you. Trying to look past the fundamental blindness that I see
>in some of your views, and looking beneath that to see an honorable
>person, while caught up in a determination to be more moderate
>in your approach toward those who are European or who support
>abolition, and more polarized and demanding of those who are
>not European or abolitionists. But at heart... a good person
>who was the very first poster here, who brought me to recognize
>this group was more than what it might have seemed at first brush.
>
>Goodbye, and take care.
>
>JN
>
--
~david-haley
david-...@the-haleys.com
(no unmunging necessary)
---------------------------
D.C.
> "John Rennie" <jo...@rennie69.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:cvd71a$t4a$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Sorry, Jim. I feel I must give you a rest.
> Sorry you feel that way. While it's not as if I post this every day,
> it's always been your right to do whatever you feel you want.
>
> But I'm about to make an offer to Desmond to end this. If he admits that
> he has been lying all these years, and is not Jewish, and agrees that he
> will not longer attack the Jews, Israel, or defend the legal innocence of
> the Nazis, and in that one post, and that one post only, removes his
> no-archive, I will immediately leave the group and not return. You and I
> know he is lying, so it is only a matter of him admitting it, which 100%
> vindicates you as any kind of a liar in your assertions that he is not
> Jewish, and he will realize his fondest wish.
>
> While you have often disrespected me, I have always respected you.
> Trying to look past the fundamental blindness that I see in some of your
> views, and looking beneath that to see an honorable person, while caught
> up in a determination to be more moderate in your approach toward those
> who are European or who support abolition, and more polarized and
> demanding of those who are not European or abolitionists. But at
> heart... a good person who was the very first poster here, who brought me
> to recognize this group was more than what it might have seemed at first
> brush.
>
> Goodbye, and take care.
Barf !!
You are a fool, FuckWit. You suck up to John, when in fact he is one of
the abolitionists who has been the most scathing of your dishonesty.
Credit where credit is due, FuckWit. You are a fool, but some of your lies
have worked. One of those is your continual claim that I am
'anti-Semitic', even if it has not worked in the way you envisaged.
Of course, not one single poster on this group believes that I am
anti-Semitic. Only a fool could arrive at such a conclusion, and your
oft-repeated claims that I have demonstrated such a 'hatred' through my
posts, do not alter this circumstance in the slightest degree, which as I
am sure all readers to this group have noted, is a source of immense
frustration to you, desperate as you are to divert attention from your own
dishonest claims to be Jewish, and from your woeful inability to engage
anyone here whose IQ is above room temperature, in meaningful debate.
But in one respect, you have been successful. Whilst everyone knows that I
am not anti-Semitic, you appear to have convinced one or two posters that
_you_ believe that I am. In short, you have fooled them into accepting
that your accusations of 'Jew-hating', whilst completely without basis, are
sincere.
In this respect, I am thinking of Q., John, and David Haley. They all know
that I do not 'hate Jews'. Whether I am a Jew or not, is i) of no
importance to the group, ii) of no importance to the argument of whether
or not I might 'hate' them, and iii) no one's business but my own.
Yet it is only necessary to look at the above named gentlemen's gentle,
almost conciliatory finger-waving, along the lines of, 'Come on, Jim: Des
isn't an anti-Semitic'.
They fully believe that you think I am anti-Semitic.
Such earnestness ! How ingenuous ! And - alas! - such naïveté !
Of _course_ you don't believe it. Not for one, single, solitary second.
This is your greatest lie. This is your greatest success. This is your
greatest weakness.
Now, the 'Jewish question' on news:alt.activism.death-penalty is officially
closed. I shall perhaps respond once or twice henceforth, just to tweak
your nose, but I shall no longer waste my time exploding the lies of a fool
who isn't intellectually equipped to engage my cat in meaningful
discussion.
My advice ? Take a break. Get in the car with Nadia, drive out into the
country, and breathe some air, because I say this without irony or
dishonesty: you are allowing the words in this <fx: looks around> virtual
forum, to become too 'real'. And it's getting to you.
The above is not a 'dig'; it is not 'offensive'; it is not done to 'annoy'
you. It is something that I believe, and I am being entirely friendly and
sincere. You are harming only yourself by allowing what is written here,
to enrage you so.
Take a few days off, Jim. You'll feel better for it, I promise you.
--
D...@zeouane.org
Jewish and Proud of It
The AADP Spectrum: http://www.chez.com/desmondcoughlan/dp/aadp_spectrum.gif
url:http://minilien.fr/a0jza8
D.C.
> This day of Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:17:07 GMT, "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> saw
> fit to scribe:
>>"John Rennie" <jo...@rennie69.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:cvd71a$t4a$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
>>> news:b9pSd.76302$pc5....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>> Feb 21, 2005
>>If someone would be so kind as to repost this comment, so John
>>may see my remark this final time, I would appreciate it.
> Reasonable enough, I suppose... John will read it if he so chooses.
>
> But you should understand that if he has killfiled you it is because of
> your (frankly) stupid 'campaign' regarding Desmond. Nobody cares, Jim.
> Not because we believe in Desmond but because it's a stupid, stupid
> issue. Frankly I do not understand why you take Desmond so seriously.
> It's as if he holds some strange power over you. I also think he takes
> you too seriously and his behavior disappoints me as well. But he doesn't
> seem to consider it all some grand moral issue and this is what confuses
> me about you.
Great indeed is my power over James Noles, David, for that power is to
expose him, both as a fraud (his intellectual credentials now lay before
our feet, shattered like clay), and as a liar.
Honesty is like a chain, David, for whilst its links hold, the 'ensemble'
is of not inconsiderable strength. Break one of those links, however, and
the integrity of the entire structure is compromised.
Mr Noles claims that he has 'proof' that I am not Jewish. He has no such
thing, however, and he knows it. He has the opinion of someone who spent
two hours in my company, and of course, he has his own desperate desire to
distract attention from his own claims to be Jewish. If that constitutes
'proof', then society may as well abandon trial by jury and the doctrine of
'beyond a reasonable doubt', and just convict based on the allegations of
any idiot, liar or lunatic who decides to libel.
What Mr Noles does not have, is documentary or empirical evidence that I
have lied, either in asserting my Jewishness, or indeed in any other aspect
of my posting history here on news:alt.activism.death-penalty.
James Noles has now been caught out in a lie. We have empirical evidence
of this lie, in that the diploma he posted to this group [1], was a fake.
In other words, a link in the 'chain' of Mr Noles's integrity has been
broken. Let us lay aside momentarily the certainty that even before euro
enabled me to destroy this 'link' this morning thanks to his sterling work
on the web, most of the other intellectual claims that Mr Noles made, were
also almost certainly false. For a poster who is incapable of placing
apostrophes, correctly using verbs, nouns and adjectives, and whose
cultural and geographical ignorance is of almost Biblical proportions ('The
Aucklands', anyone [2] ..?) to claim to be able to quote _verbatim_
passages from classic and contemporary works and to be familiar with the
lives of great historical figures from Socrates, through Alexandar The
Great, Edward I, Shakespeare and Bacon, all the way to O'Connor, Hemingway
and Virginia Woolf, is almost unbelievably pseudo-intellectual, and merits
nothing but the derision that all scholarly men must surely see fit to
apply.
Accusing someone of lying, and proving it are two different things, David.
Mr Noles has accused me of lying on roughly eight thousand different
occasions. He has yet to prove one of those allegations. We have, this
morning, apported concrete, documentary evidence of Mr Noles's dishonesty.
It is clear that from this moment, each and every one of James Noles's
allegations, claims, assertions or statements, must be viewed with the
utmost suspicion. One link has been broken. The remaining links cannot be
trusted.
[1] url:http://www.chez.com/desmondcoughlan/dp/FuckWit_false_diploma.jpg
[2] url:http://www.google.fr/groups?hl=fr&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=uli250tbmmvgeohe35a2t24rdpd603nfb1%404ax.com
Jim Noles
>David Haley <david-...@the-haleys.com> wrote:
>> This day of Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:17:07 GMT, "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> saw
>> fit to scribe:
>>>"John Rennie" <jo...@rennie69.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cvd71a$t4a$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>> "Jim Noles" <abc...@zbqytr.ykq> wrote in message
>>>> news:b9pSd.76302$pc5....@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>> Feb 21, 2005
<clip rant>
>It is clear that from this moment, each and every one of James Noles's
>allegations, claims, assertions or statements, must be viewed with the
>utmost suspicion. One link has been broken. The remaining links cannot be
>trusted.
Just as clear that when you lie in claiming you are Jewish, in order to
claim that the Jews are "milking" the Holocaust, and that there are
capable of being legally found "inhuman," you are only to be seen
as a neo-Nazi.
JN
>--
>D...@zeouane.org
>Jewish and Proud of It
You're not Jewish, Desmond. John Rennie, who knows you personally,
has stated that you told him you are not Jewish. And who could possibly
believe YOU... against John Rennie? Especially after your first words to
him were that he had no "right" to reveal you are not Jewish, and then
attack him in claiming he had previously used "blackmail" on you. I
believe you rather let the cat out of the bag, in not actually denying his
comment, but insisting that he had no "right" to expose your lie. See --
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/bb180a2c31f541a7
Jim Noles
<D...@zeouane.org> after lighting a candle and saying a prayer for Rudolph
Hoess wrote:
>James 'pro-Jewish and proud of it' Noles <na...@earthlink.net> wrote ...
>
>> "John Rennie" <jo...@rennie69.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cvd71a$t4a$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
>>> Sorry, Jim. I feel I must give you a rest.
>
>> Sorry you feel that way. While it's not as if I post this every day,
>> it's always been your right to do whatever you feel you want.
>>
>> But I'm about to make an offer to Desmond to end this. If he admits that
>> he has been lying all these years, and is not Jewish, and agrees that he
>> will not longer attack the Jews, Israel, or defend the legal innocence of
>> the Nazis, and in that one post, and that one post only, removes his
>> no-archive, I will immediately leave the group and not return. You and I
>> know he is lying, so it is only a matter of him admitting it, which 100%
>> vindicates you as any kind of a liar in your assertions that he is not
>> Jewish, and he will realize his fondest wish.
>>
>> While you have often disrespected me, I have always respected you.
>> Trying to look past the fundamental blindness that I see in some of your
>> views, and looking beneath that to see an honorable person, while caught
>> up in a determination to be more moderate in your approach toward those
>> who are European or who support abolition, and more polarized and
>> demanding of those who are not European or abolitionists. But at
>> heart... a good person who was the very first poster here, who brought me
>> to recognize this group was more than what it might have seemed at first
>> brush.
>>
>> Goodbye, and take care.
>
>Barf !!
>
<clip purple_vein explosion from Desmond... insisting that he is not an anti-Semite,
even if others think he is>
>They fully believe that you think I am anti-Semitic.
>
>Now, the 'Jewish question' on news:alt.activism.death-penalty is officially
>closed. I shall perhaps respond once or twice henceforth, just to tweak
>your nose, but I shall no longer waste my time exploding the lies of a fool
>who isn't intellectually equipped to engage my cat in meaningful
>discussion.
Thank God... Desmond agrees to release his strangle hold on the Jews
in holding them hostage. Now let us both never speak of this sordid
chapter in your life, and we both never again mention the Jews, Israel or
the Holocaust, and we can move on to your general racism and hate
for other members of our species. And once we do, I will never
again mention those words you have posted before about the Jews,
Israel or the Holocaust. This was what I originally proposed, and
you rejected out of hand, thinking you could gain more by holding out.
But no more hidden messages, and no more "Nazi" from either of us.
You may call me "fuckwit," since I have come to see that as a
compliment considering it comes from you.
But, hang on folks... this was posted by Desmond, two days ago,
and since that time, he has continued to flood this newsgroup with
his continued lie. Continued to maintain that strangle hold on the
Jews, until I pay his ransom... to leave AADP and never again
expose his lies. Not in one single post since he announced that
it was closed, has he managed to avoid mentioning his lie. NOT
ONCE!!
JN
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