The Hole at the Heart of Our Strategy We’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives terrorism.
By Mark Steyn
Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have called, since 9/11, the “War on Terror.” Brave soldiers trained to hunt down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and security of home by, in essence, the same enemy — a man who believes in and supports everything the enemy does.
And he’s a U.S. Army major.
And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity — as if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general vibrancy of the base.
But he didn’t really need to “ it up” at all. He could pretty much say anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: “We are not to question sharia.”
That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s no terrorism angle.
That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who commissioned the famous Mohammed cartoons. But Noor Almaleki’s brother shrugs that’s just the way it is. “One thing to one culture doesn’t make sense to another culture,” he says.
Indeed. To infidels, Islam is in a certain sense unknowable, and most of us are content to leave it at that. The vast majority of Muslims don’t conspire to kill cartoonists or murder their daughters or shoot dozens of their fellow soldiers. But Islam inspires enough of this behavior to make it a legitimate topic of analysis. Don’t hold your breath. We’d rather talk about anything else — even in the Army.
What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] by his actions and not by his name.”
Concerned Tweeters can relax: There was never really any danger of that — and not just in the sense that the New York Times’s first report on Major Hasan never mentioned the words “Muslim” or “Islam,” or that ABC’s Martha Raddatz’s only observation on his name was that “as for the suspect, Nadal Hasan, as one officer’s wife told me, ‘I wish his name was Smith.’”
What a strange reaction. I suppose what she means is that, if his name were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting illusions that allowed the bureaucracy to advance Nidal Malik Hasan to major and into the heart of Fort Hood while ignoring everything that mattered about the essence of this man.
Since 9/11, we have, as the Twitterers recommend, judged people by their actions — flying planes into skyscrapers, blowing themselves up in Bali nightclubs or London Tube trains, planting IEDs by the roadside in Baghdad or Tikrit. And on the whole we’re effective at responding with action of our own — taking out training camps in Afghanistan, rolling up insurgency networks in Fallujah and Ramadi, intercepting terror plots in London and Toronto and Dearborn.
But we’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives a man to fly into a building or self-detonate on the subway, and thus we have a hole at the heart of our strategy. We use rhetorical conveniences like “radical Islam” or, if that seems a wee bit Islamophobic, just plain old “radical extremism.” But we never make any effort to delineate the line which separates “radical Islam” from non-radical Islam. Indeed, we go to great lengths to make it even fuzzier. And somewhere in that woozy blur the pathologies of a Nidal Malik Hasan incubate. An army psychiatrist, Major Hasan was an American, born and raised, who graduated from Viriginia Tech and then received his doctorate from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, which works out to the best part of half a million dollars’ worth of elite education. But he opposed America’s actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and made approving remarks about jihadists on American soil. “You need to lock it up, Major,” cautioned his superior officer, Col. Terry Lee.
But he didn’t really need to “lock it up” at all. He could pretty much say anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: “We are not to question sharia.”
That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s no terrorism angle.
That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who commissioned the famous
On 8/11/09 18:35, in article 190ef5pplivlemeq0g0pdpc9i9t1vub...@4ax.com,
"FACE" <AFaceInTheCr...@today.net> wrote: > We¹re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives > terrorism.
Terrorism is driven by a number of factors. How does one categorize the terrorism used by the French resistance against the Nazi occupiers. Is defending one's country natural or due to some complex ideology?
The territorial imperative is practice by many animals, they never developed an ideology on anything.
Is the terrorist opposition to the Israelian occupation of their territory due to an ideology, or it naturally expected in that and other similar cases?
Many of man's socalled rational actions are driven by deeper urges, ideology sometimes after that fact when people try to make sense of the actions.
The targeting of the USA by Al Qaeda was initially caused by US presence (Christian) on Moslem turf. That American "threat" However "ill" Hasan is found to be, he first of all did not want to go contribute to a war against fellow Moslems. The Army should have realized this and not force the issue and let him go. He also had the possibility of just walking away from it. So his responsibility for what he did to innocent people remains, he did not have to do that any more that the 9/11 terrorist had to do what they did. Criminal acts are committed when innocent are killed purposefully.
The situation is different when the intruder is in your territory as is the case of Israelis and their occupation of the west bank. These are seen as intrusions, just as American presence on Iraq and Afghanistan is seen as that by some.
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:01:41 +0100, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>The situation is different when the intruder is in your >territory as is the case of Israelis and their occupation >of the west bank. These are seen as intrusions, just >as American presence on Iraq and Afghanistan is seen >as that by some.
are you promoting euro-suicide bombers in burnley and marseilles?
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:26:23 +0100, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>On 8/11/09 19:13, in article pg2ef5dqfnlefeccf6j0rr7b88j96k2...@4ax.com, >"abelard" <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
>> are you promoting euro-suicide bombers in burnley and marseilles?
>No, I am not promoting anything, I am explaining
not anywhere that i can see
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:40:59 +0100, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>On 8/11/09 19:29, in article qg3ef55fqn45v1597ium6orvt5umeqs...@4ax.com, >"abelard" <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
>> not anywhere that i can see
>Takes intelligence to understand the teacher.
it also takes intelligence to notice when a teacher is incompetent
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> The Hole at the Heart of Our Strategy > We’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives > terrorism.
> By Mark Steyn
> Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in > Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in > Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a > processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to > combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called > it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have > called, since 9/11, the “War on Terror.” Brave soldiers trained to hunt > down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and > security of home by, in essence, the same enemy — a man who believes in > and supports everything the enemy does.
> And he’s a U.S. Army major.
> And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but > seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity — as > if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the > aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet > paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, > objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded > as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general > vibrancy of the base.
> But he didn’t really need to “ it up” at all. He could pretty much say > anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly > mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on > the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on > American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter > category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? > Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an > American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would > kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown > Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto > this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on > flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the > purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she > revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: > “We are not to question sharia.”
> That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
It seems that the TSA employees at JFK and Newark Airport are largely of Middle Eastern origin as well. It's like the fox guarding the hen house.
> In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only > obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no > religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas > says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his > door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out > copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. > But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s > no terrorism angle.
> That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying > member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in > Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the > pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the > end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his > psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American > identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, > Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” > daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. > residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for > plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who > commissioned the famous Mohammed cartoons. But Noor Almaleki’s brother > shrugs that’s just the way it is. “One thing to one culture doesn’t make > sense to another culture,” he says.
> Indeed. To infidels, Islam is in a certain sense unknowable, and most of > us are content to leave it at that. The vast majority of Muslims don’t > conspire to kill cartoonists or murder their daughters or shoot dozens of > their fellow soldiers. But Islam inspires enough of this behavior to make > it a legitimate topic of analysis. Don’t hold your breath. We’d rather > talk about anything else — even in the Army.
> What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible > symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on > the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took > seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and > fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that > drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
> When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal > Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of > posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] > by his actions and not by his name.”
> Concerned Tweeters can relax: There was never really any danger of that — > and not just in the sense that the New York Times’s first report on Major > Hasan never mentioned the words “Muslim” or “Islam,” or that ABC’s Martha > Raddatz’s only observation on his name was that “as for the suspect, Nadal > Hasan, as one officer’s wife told me, ‘I wish his name was Smith.’”
> What a strange reaction. I suppose what she means is that, if his name > were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting illusions > that allowed the bureaucracy to advance Nidal Malik Hasan to major and > into the heart of Fort Hood while ignoring everything that mattered about > the essence of this man.
> Since 9/11, we have, as the Twitterers recommend, judged people by their > actions — flying planes into skyscrapers, blowing themselves up in Bali > nightclubs or London Tube trains, planting IEDs by the roadside in Baghdad > or Tikrit. And on the whole we’re effective at responding with action of > our own — taking out training camps in Afghanistan, rolling up insurgency > networks in Fallujah and Ramadi, intercepting terror plots in London and > Toronto and Dearborn.
> But we’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives a man > to fly into a building or self-detonate on the subway, and thus we have a > hole at the heart of our strategy. We use rhetorical conveniences like > “radical Islam” or, if that seems a wee bit Islamophobic, just plain old > “radical extremism.” But we never make any effort to delineate the line > which separates “radical Islam” from non-radical Islam. Indeed, we go to > great lengths to make it even fuzzier. And somewhere in that woozy blur > the pathologies of a Nidal Malik Hasan incubate. An army psychiatrist, > Major Hasan was an American, born and raised, who graduated from Viriginia > Tech and then received his doctorate from the Uniformed Services > University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, which works out to the best > part of half a million dollars’ worth of elite education. But he opposed > America’s actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and made approving > remarks about jihadists on American soil. “You need to lock it up, Major,” > cautioned his superior officer, Col. Terry Lee.
> But he didn’t really need to “lock it up” at all. He could pretty much say > anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly > mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on > the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on > American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter > category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? > Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an > American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would > kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown > Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto > this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on > flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the > purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she > revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: > “We are not to question sharia.”
> That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
> In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only > obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no > religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas > says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his > door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out > copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. > But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s > no terrorism angle.
> That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying > member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in > Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the > pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the > end his Islamic impulses trumped his
>The Hole at the Heart of Our Strategy >We’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives >terrorism.
>By Mark Steyn
>Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in >Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in >Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a >processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to >combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called >it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have >called, since 9/11, the “War on Terror.” Brave soldiers trained to hunt >down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and >security of home by, in essence, the same enemy — a man who believes in >and supports everything the enemy does.
>And he’s a U.S. Army major.
>And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but >seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity — as >if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the >aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet >paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, >objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded >as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general >vibrancy of the base.
>But he didn’t really need to “ it up” at all. He could pretty much say >anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly >mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on >the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on >American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter >category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? >Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an >American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would >kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown >Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto >this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on >flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the >purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she >revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: >“We are not to question sharia.”
>That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
>In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only >obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no >religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas >says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his >door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out >copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. >But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s >no terrorism angle.
>That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying >member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in >Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the >pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the >end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his >psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American >identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, >Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” >daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. >residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for >plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who >commissioned the famous Mohammed cartoons. But Noor Almaleki’s brother >shrugs that’s just the way it is. “One thing to one culture doesn’t make >sense to another culture,” he says.
>Indeed. To infidels, Islam is in a certain sense unknowable, and most of >us are content to leave it at that. The vast majority of Muslims don’t >conspire to kill cartoonists or murder their daughters or shoot dozens of >their fellow soldiers. But Islam inspires enough of this behavior to make >it a legitimate topic of analysis. Don’t hold your breath. We’d rather >talk about anything else — even in the Army.
>What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible >symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on >the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took >seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and >fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that >drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
>When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal >Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of >posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] >by his actions and not by his name.”
>Concerned Tweeters can relax: There was never really any danger of that — >and not just in the sense that the New York Times’s first report on Major >Hasan never mentioned the words “Muslim” or “Islam,” or that ABC’s Martha >Raddatz’s only observation on his name was that “as for the suspect, Nadal >Hasan, as one officer’s wife told me, ‘I wish his name was Smith.’”
>What a strange reaction. I suppose what she means is that, if his name >were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting illusions >that allowed the bureaucracy to advance Nidal Malik Hasan to major and >into the heart of Fort Hood while ignoring everything that mattered about >the essence of this man.
>Since 9/11, we have, as the Twitterers recommend, judged people by their >actions — flying planes into skyscrapers, blowing themselves up in Bali >nightclubs or London Tube trains, planting IEDs by the roadside in Baghdad >or Tikrit. And on the whole we’re effective at responding with action of >our own — taking out training camps in Afghanistan, rolling up insurgency >networks in Fallujah and Ramadi, intercepting terror plots in London and >Toronto and Dearborn.
>But we’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives a man >to fly into a building or self-detonate on the subway, and thus we have a >hole at the heart of our strategy. We use rhetorical conveniences like >“radical Islam” or, if that seems a wee bit Islamophobic, just plain old >“radical extremism.” But we never make any effort to delineate the line >which separates “radical Islam” from non-radical Islam. Indeed, we go to >great lengths to make it even fuzzier. And somewhere in that woozy blur >the pathologies of a Nidal Malik Hasan incubate. An army psychiatrist, >Major Hasan was an American, born and raised, who graduated from Viriginia >Tech and then received his doctorate from the Uniformed Services >University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, which works out to the best >part of half a million dollars’ worth of elite education. But he opposed >America’s actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and made approving >remarks about jihadists on American soil. “You need to lock it up, Major,” >cautioned his superior officer, Col. Terry Lee.
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:53:59 -0800 (PST), in alt.politics, Iconoclast <iconocl...@nym.hush.com>, wrote
>> What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible >> symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on >> the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took >> seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and >> fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that >> drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
>Excellent piece. Thanks for posting. Scroll up to see comment midway- >through the piece.
Glad you enjoyed it. The official US response to this clear and present danger should be a Monty Python skit. I recall when mention was made of the muslims in the TSA crews. It exceeds ridiculous................
It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously correct.
>thanx for posting it... >for assistance i've removed the section you duplicated
>regards
Thank you. I felt that something did go wrong in my cut and paste but from the below it appears that you also removed page 2 which begins "But he didn’t really need to “lock it up” at all. ..."
I was rather hoping that people would just go to the URL to read it........
>>The Hole at the Heart of Our Strategy >>We’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives >>terrorism.
>>By Mark Steyn
>>Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in >>Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in >>Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a >>processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to >>combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called >>it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have >>called, since 9/11, the “War on Terror.” Brave soldiers trained to hunt >>down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and >>security of home by, in essence, the same enemy — a man who believes in >>and supports everything the enemy does.
>>And he’s a U.S. Army major.
>>And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but >>seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity — as >>if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the >>aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet >>paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, >>objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded >>as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general >>vibrancy of the base.
>>But he didn’t really need to “ it up” at all. He could pretty much say >>anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly >>mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on >>the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on >>American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter >>category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? >>Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an >>American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would >>kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown >>Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto >>this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on >>flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the >>purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she >>revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: >>“We are not to question sharia.”
>>That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
>>In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only >>obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no >>religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas >>says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his >>door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out >>copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. >>But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s >>no terrorism angle.
>>That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying >>member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in >>Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the >>pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the >>end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his >>psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American >>identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, >>Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” >>daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. >>residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for >>plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who >>commissioned the famous Mohammed cartoons. But Noor Almaleki’s brother >>shrugs that’s just the way it is. “One thing to one culture doesn’t make >>sense to another culture,” he says.
>>Indeed. To infidels, Islam is in a certain sense unknowable, and most of >>us are content to leave it at that. The vast majority of Muslims don’t >>conspire to kill cartoonists or murder their daughters or shoot dozens of >>their fellow soldiers. But Islam inspires enough of this behavior to make >>it a legitimate topic of analysis. Don’t hold your breath. We’d rather >>talk about anything else — even in the Army.
>>What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible >>symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on >>the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took >>seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and >>fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that >>drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
>>When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal >>Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of >>posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] >>by his actions and not by his name.”
>>Concerned Tweeters can relax: There was never really any danger of that — >>and not just in the sense that the New York Times’s first report on Major >>Hasan never mentioned the words “Muslim” or “Islam,” or that ABC’s Martha >>Raddatz’s only observation on his name was that “as for the suspect, Nadal >>Hasan, as one officer’s wife told me, ‘I wish his name was Smith.’”
>>What a strange reaction. I suppose what she means is that, if his name >>were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting illusions >>that allowed the bureaucracy to advance Nidal Malik Hasan to major and >>into the heart of Fort Hood while ignoring everything that mattered about >>the essence of this man.
>>Since 9/11, we have, as the Twitterers recommend, judged people by their >>actions — flying planes into skyscrapers, blowing themselves up in Bali >>nightclubs or London Tube trains, planting IEDs by the roadside in Baghdad >>or Tikrit. And on the whole we’re effective at responding with action of >>our own — taking out training camps in Afghanistan, rolling up insurgency >>networks in Fallujah and Ramadi, intercepting terror plots in London and >>Toronto and Dearborn.
>>But we’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives a man >>to fly into a building or self-detonate on the subway, and thus we have a >>hole at the heart of our strategy. We use rhetorical conveniences like >>“radical Islam” or, if that seems a wee bit Islamophobic, just plain old >>“radical extremism.” But we never make any effort to delineate the line >>which separates “radical Islam” from non-radical Islam. Indeed, we go to >>great lengths to make it even fuzzier. And somewhere in that woozy blur >>the pathologies of a Nidal Malik Hasan incubate. An army psychiatrist, >>Major Hasan was an American, born and raised, who graduated from Viriginia >>Tech and then received his doctorate from the Uniformed Services >>University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, which works out to the best >>part of half a million dollars’ worth of elite education. But he opposed >>America’s actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and made approving >>remarks about jihadists on American soil. “You need to lock it up, Major,” >>cautioned his superior officer, Col. Terry Lee.
FACE wrote: > It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not > terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously > correct.
Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones...
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
>>thanx for posting it... >>for assistance i've removed the section you duplicated
>>regards
>Thank you. I felt that something did go wrong in my cut and paste but >from the below it appears that you also removed page 2 which begins "But >he didn’t really need to “lock it up” at all. ..."
yeah well...you'll find you'd already put that in as para 3 :-)
>I was rather hoping that people would just go to the URL to read >it........
>>>The Hole at the Heart of Our Strategy >>>We’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives >>>terrorism.
>>>By Mark Steyn
>>>Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in >>>Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in >>>Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a >>>processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to >>>combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called >>>it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have >>>called, since 9/11, the “War on Terror.” Brave soldiers trained to hunt >>>down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and >>>security of home by, in essence, the same enemy — a man who believes in >>>and supports everything the enemy does.
>>>And he’s a U.S. Army major.
>>>And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but >>>seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity — as >>>if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the >>>aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet >>>paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, >>>objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded >>>as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general >>>vibrancy of the base.
>>>But he didn’t really need to “ it up” at all. He could pretty much say >>>anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly >>>mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on >>>the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on >>>American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter >>>category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? >>>Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an >>>American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would >>>kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown >>>Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto >>>this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on >>>flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the >>>purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she >>>revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: >>>“We are not to question sharia.”
>>>That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
>>>In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only >>>obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no >>>religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas >>>says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his >>>door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out >>>copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. >>>But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s >>>no terrorism angle.
>>>That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying >>>member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in >>>Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the >>>pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the >>>end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his >>>psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American >>>identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, >>>Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” >>>daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. >>>residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for >>>plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who >>>commissioned the famous Mohammed cartoons. But Noor Almaleki’s brother >>>shrugs that’s just the way it is. “One thing to one culture doesn’t make >>>sense to another culture,” he says.
>>>Indeed. To infidels, Islam is in a certain sense unknowable, and most of >>>us are content to leave it at that. The vast majority of Muslims don’t >>>conspire to kill cartoonists or murder their daughters or shoot dozens of >>>their fellow soldiers. But Islam inspires enough of this behavior to make >>>it a legitimate topic of analysis. Don’t hold your breath. We’d rather >>>talk about anything else — even in the Army.
>>>What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible >>>symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on >>>the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took >>>seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and >>>fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that >>>drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
>>>When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal >>>Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of >>>posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] >>>by his actions and not by his name.”
>>>Concerned Tweeters can relax: There was never really any danger of that — >>>and not just in the sense that the New York Times’s first report on Major >>>Hasan never mentioned the words “Muslim” or “Islam,” or that ABC’s Martha >>>Raddatz’s only observation on his name was that “as for the suspect, Nadal >>>Hasan, as one officer’s wife told me, ‘I wish his name was Smith.’”
>>>What a strange reaction. I suppose what she means is that, if his name >>>were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting illusions >>>that allowed the bureaucracy to advance Nidal Malik Hasan to major and >>>into the heart of Fort Hood while ignoring everything that mattered about >>>the essence of this man.
>>>Since 9/11, we have, as the Twitterers recommend, judged people by their >>>actions — flying planes into skyscrapers, blowing themselves up in Bali >>>nightclubs or London Tube trains, planting IEDs by the roadside in Baghdad >>>or Tikrit. And on the whole we’re effective at responding with action of >>>our own — taking out training camps in Afghanistan, rolling up insurgency >>>networks in Fallujah and Ramadi, intercepting terror plots in London and >>>Toronto and Dearborn.
>>>But we’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives a man >>>to fly into a building or self-detonate on the subway, and thus we have a >>>hole at the heart of our strategy. We use rhetorical conveniences like >>>“radical Islam” or, if that seems a wee bit Islamophobic, just plain old >>>“radical extremism.” But we never make any effort to delineate the line >>>which separates “radical Islam” from non-radical Islam. Indeed, we go to >>>great lengths to make it even fuzzier. And somewhere in that woozy blur >>>the pathologies of a Nidal Malik Hasan incubate. An army psychiatrist, >>>Major Hasan was an American, born and raised, who graduated from Viriginia >>>Tech and then received his doctorate from the Uniformed Services >>>University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, which works out to the best >>>part of half a million dollars’ worth of elite education. But he opposed >>>America’s actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and made approving >>>remarks about jihadists on American soil. “You need to lock it up, Major,” >>>cautioned his superior officer, Col. Terry Lee.
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On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:07:36 +0000, in alt.politics, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote
>FACE wrote:
>> It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not >> terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously >> correct.
FACE wrote: > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:07:36 +0000, in alt.politics, William Black > <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote
>> FACE wrote:
>>> It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not >>> terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously >>> correct. >> Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones...
> Read all the words William
'Almost all'.
I assume you have some figures about how many terrorists there are in the world today.
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
>>>thanx for posting it... >>>for assistance i've removed the section you duplicated
>>>regards
>>Thank you. I felt that something did go wrong in my cut and paste but >>from the below it appears that you also removed page 2 which begins "But >>he didn’t really need to “lock it up” at all. ..."
>yeah well...you'll find you'd already put that in as para 3 :-)
LOL! (at me)
>>I was rather hoping that people would just go to the URL to read >>it........
>>>>The Hole at the Heart of Our Strategy >>>>We’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives >>>>terrorism.
>>>>By Mark Steyn
>>>>Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in >>>>Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in >>>>Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a >>>>processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to >>>>combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called >>>>it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have >>>>called, since 9/11, the “War on Terror.” Brave soldiers trained to hunt >>>>down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and >>>>security of home by, in essence, the same enemy — a man who believes in >>>>and supports everything the enemy does.
>>>>And he’s a U.S. Army major.
>>>>And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but >>>>seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity — as >>>>if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the >>>>aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet >>>>paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, >>>>objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded >>>>as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general >>>>vibrancy of the base.
>>>>But he didn’t really need to “ it up” at all. He could pretty much say >>>>anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly >>>>mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on >>>>the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on >>>>American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter >>>>category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? >>>>Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an >>>>American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would >>>>kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown >>>>Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto >>>>this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on >>>>flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the >>>>purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she >>>>revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: >>>>“We are not to question sharia.”
>>>>That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
>>>>In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only >>>>obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no >>>>religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas >>>>says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his >>>>door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out >>>>copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. >>>>But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s >>>>no terrorism angle.
>>>>That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying >>>>member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in >>>>Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the >>>>pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the >>>>end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his >>>>psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American >>>>identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, >>>>Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” >>>>daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. >>>>residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for >>>>plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who >>>>commissioned the famous Mohammed cartoons. But Noor Almaleki’s brother >>>>shrugs that’s just the way it is. “One thing to one culture doesn’t make >>>>sense to another culture,” he says.
>>>>Indeed. To infidels, Islam is in a certain sense unknowable, and most of >>>>us are content to leave it at that. The vast majority of Muslims don’t >>>>conspire to kill cartoonists or murder their daughters or shoot dozens of >>>>their fellow soldiers. But Islam inspires enough of this behavior to make >>>>it a legitimate topic of analysis. Don’t hold your breath. We’d rather >>>>talk about anything else — even in the Army.
>>>>What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible >>>>symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on >>>>the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took >>>>seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and >>>>fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that >>>>drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
>>>>When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal >>>>Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of >>>>posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] >>>>by his actions and not by his name.”
>>>>Concerned Tweeters can relax: There was never really any danger of that — >>>>and not just in the sense that the New York Times’s first report on Major >>>>Hasan never mentioned the words “Muslim” or “Islam,” or that ABC’s Martha >>>>Raddatz’s only observation on his name was that “as for the suspect, Nadal >>>>Hasan, as one officer’s wife told me, ‘I wish his name was Smith.’”
>>>>What a strange reaction. I suppose what she means is that, if his name >>>>were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting illusions >>>>that allowed the bureaucracy to advance Nidal Malik Hasan to major and >>>>into the heart of Fort Hood while ignoring everything that mattered about >>>>the essence of this man.
>>>>Since 9/11, we have, as the Twitterers recommend, judged people by their >>>>actions — flying planes into skyscrapers, blowing themselves up in Bali >>>>nightclubs or London Tube trains, planting IEDs by the roadside in Baghdad >>>>or Tikrit. And on the whole we’re effective at responding with action of >>>>our own — taking out training camps in Afghanistan, rolling up insurgency >>>>networks in Fallujah and Ramadi, intercepting terror plots in London and >>>>Toronto and Dearborn.
>>>>But we’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives a man >>>>to fly into a building or self-detonate on the subway, and thus we have a >>>>hole at the heart of our strategy. We use rhetorical conveniences like >>>>“radical Islam” or, if that seems a wee bit Islamophobic, just plain old >>>>“radical extremism.” But we never make any effort to delineate the line >>>>which separates “radical Islam” from non-radical Islam. Indeed, we go to >>>>great lengths to make it even fuzzier. And somewhere in that woozy blur >>>>the pathologies of a Nidal Malik Hasan incubate. An army psychiatrist, >>>>Major Hasan was an American, born and raised, who graduated from Viriginia >>>>Tech and then received his doctorate from the Uniformed Services >>>>University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, which works out to the best >>>>part of half a million dollars’ worth of elite education. But he opposed >>>>America’s actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and made approving >>>>remarks about jihadists on American soil. “You need to lock it up, Major,” >>>>cautioned his superior officer, Col. Terry Lee.
The Hole at the Heart of Our Strategy We’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives terrorism.
By Mark Steyn
Thirteen dead and 31 wounded would be a bad day for the U.S. military in Afghanistan, and a great victory for the Taliban. When it happens in Texas, in the heart of the biggest military base in the nation, at a processing center for soldiers either returning from or deploying to combat overseas, it is not merely a “tragedy” (as too many people called it) but a glimpse of a potentially fatal flaw at the heart of what we have called, since 9/11, the “War on Terror.” Brave soldiers trained to hunt down and kill America’s enemy abroad were killed in the safety and security of home by, in essence, the same enemy — a man who believes in and supports everything the enemy does.
And he’s a U.S. Army major.
And his superior officers and other authorities knew about his beliefs but seemed to think it was just a bit of harmless multicultural diversity — as if believing that “the Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor” (i.e., his fellow American soldiers) and writing Internet paeans to the “noble” “heroism” of suicide bombers and, indeed, objectively supporting the other side in an active war is to be regarded as just some kind of alternative lifestyle that adds to the general vibrancy of the base.
When it emerged early on Thursday afternoon that the shooter was Nidal Malik Hasan, there appeared shortly thereafter on Twitter a flurry of posts with the striking formulation: “Please judge Major Malik Nadal [sic] by his actions and not by his name.”
Concerned Tweeters can relax: There was never really any danger of that — and not just in the sense that the New York Times’s first report on Major Hasan never mentioned the words “Muslim” or “Islam,” or that ABC’s Martha Raddatz’s only observation on his name was that “as for the suspect, Nadal Hasan, as one officer’s wife told me, ‘I wish his name was Smith.’”
What a strange reaction. I suppose what she means is that, if his name were Smith, we could all retreat back into the same comforting illusions that allowed the bureaucracy to advance Nidal Malik Hasan to major and into the heart of Fort Hood while ignoring everything that mattered about the essence of this man.
Since 9/11, we have, as the Twitterers recommend, judged people by their actions — flying planes into skyscrapers, blowing themselves up in Bali nightclubs or London Tube trains, planting IEDs by the roadside in Baghdad or Tikrit. And on the whole we’re effective at responding with action of our own — taking out training camps in Afghanistan, rolling up insurgency networks in Fallujah and Ramadi, intercepting terror plots in London and Toronto and Dearborn.
But we’re scrupulously non-judgmental about the ideology that drives a man to fly into a building or self-detonate on the subway, and thus we have a hole at the heart of our strategy. We use rhetorical conveniences like “radical Islam” or, if that seems a wee bit Islamophobic, just plain old “radical extremism.” But we never make any effort to delineate the line which separates “radical Islam” from non-radical Islam. Indeed, we go to great lengths to make it even fuzzier. And somewhere in that woozy blur the pathologies of a Nidal Malik Hasan incubate. An army psychiatrist, Major Hasan was an American, born and raised, who graduated from Viriginia Tech and then received his doctorate from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, which works out to the best part of half a million dollars’ worth of elite education. But he opposed America’s actions in the Middle East and Afghanistan, and made approving remarks about jihadists on American soil. “You need to lock it up, Major,” cautioned his superior officer, Col. Terry Lee.
But he didn’t really need to “lock it up” at all. He could pretty much say anything he liked, and if any “red flags” were raised they were quickly mothballed. Lots of people are “anti-war.” Some of them are objectively on the other side — that’s to say, they encourage and support attacks on American troops and civilians. But not many of those in that latter category are U.S. Army majors. Or so one would hope. Yet why be surprised? Azad Ali, a man who approvingly quotes such observations as “If I saw an American or British man wearing a soldier’s uniform inside Iraq I would kill him because that is my obligation” is an adviser to Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service (the equivalent of the U.S. attorneys). In Toronto this week, the brave ex-Muslim Nonie Darwish mentioned en passant that, on flying from the U.S. to Canada, she was questioned at length about the purpose of her visit by an apparently Muslim border official. When she revealed that she was giving a speech about Islamic law, he rebuked her: “We are not to question sharia.”
That’s the guy manning the airport-security desk.
In the New York Times, Maria Newman touched on Hasan’s faith only obliquely: “He was single, according to the records, and he listed no religious preference.” Thank goodness for that, eh? A neighbor in Texas says the major had “Allah” and “another word” pinned up in Arabic on his door. “Akbar” maybe? On Thursday morning he is said to have passed out copies of the Koran to his neighbors. He shouted in Arabic as he fired. But don’t worry: As the FBI spokesman assured us in nothing flat, there’s no terrorism angle.
That’s true, in a very narrow sense: Major Hasan is not a card-carrying member of the Texas branch of al-Qaeda reporting to a control officer in Yemen or Waziristan. If he were, things would be a lot easier. But the pathologies that drive al-Qaeda beat within Major Hasan too, and in the end his Islamic impulses trumped his expensive Western education, his psychiatric training, his military discipline — his entire American identity. One might say the same about Faleh Hassan Almaleki of Glendale, Ariz., arrested last week after fatally running over his “too Westernized” daughter Noor in the latest American honor killing. Or the two U.S. residents — one American, one Canadian — arrested a few days earlier for plotting to fly to Denmark for the purposes of murdering the editor who commissioned the famous Mohammed cartoons. But Noor Almaleki’s brother shrugs that’s just the way it is. “One thing to one culture doesn’t make sense to another culture,” he says.
Indeed. To infidels, Islam is in a certain sense unknowable, and most of us are content to leave it at that. The vast majority of Muslims don’t conspire to kill cartoonists or murder their daughters or shoot dozens of their fellow soldiers. But Islam inspires enough of this behavior to make it a legitimate topic of analysis. Don’t hold your breath. We’d rather talk about anything else — even in the Army.
What happened to those men and women at Fort Hood had a horrible symbolism: Members of the best trained, best equipped fighting force on the planet gunned down by a guy who said a few goofy things no one took seriously. And that’s the problem: America has the best troops and fiercest firepower, but no strategy for throttling the ideology that drives the enemy — in Afghanistan and in Texas.
>FACE wrote: >> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:07:36 +0000, in alt.politics, William Black >> <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote
>>> FACE wrote:
>>>> It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not >>>> terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously >>>> correct. >>> Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones...
>> Read all the words William
>'Almost all'.
>I assume you have some figures about how many terrorists there are in >the world today.
>> It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were >> not >> terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously >> correct.
> FACE wrote: > > On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:07:36 +0000, in alt.politics, William Black > > <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote
> >> FACE wrote:
> >>> It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not > >>> terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously > >>> correct. > >> Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones...
> > Read all the words William
> 'Almost all'.
> I assume you have some figures about how many terrorists there are in > the world today.
> -- > William Black
A proud graduate of Diversity Training joins the fray to let his superiors know that his indoctrination in anti-Western thought was a success.If the Muslims nuked London, William would immediately attempt to minimize the horror of the holocaust by spouting out that the Americans, long ago, nuked Hiroshima or some such PC nonsense.
On Nov 8, 12:07 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> FACE wrote: > > It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not > > terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously > > correct.
> Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones
There are No "Irish or Basque ones" Ect out of their respective regions..... However, Islamist terrorists are world wide in every country and region.
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of > Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat > single handed with a quarterstaff.
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:14:12 -0800 (PST), in alt.politics, repo <Kcajy...@yahoo.com>, wrote
>On Nov 8, 12:07 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> FACE wrote: >> > It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not >> > terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously >> > correct.
>> Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones
>There are No "Irish or Basque ones" Ect out of their >respective regions..... However, >Islamist terrorists are world wide in every country and region.
Good point. A strained case could be made that "Shining Path"(if still around) in Peru operates cross-border with Columbia and sometimes FARC goes cross border -- but as i say, "strained".
(I believe it was Shining Path with the 'suicide donkey' a few years ago.)
Probably the most media-visible international terrorist who was not muslim was Carlos the Jackal -- who, captured and while imprisoned in France, converted to Islam. (Wonder what that says......)
I am wondering if this is the origin of the paraphrase I used (he makes the qualification in the longish first sentence)..........
It is certainly true that not all Muslims are terrorists, however, sadly we say that the majority of terrorists in the world are Muslims. The kidnappers of the students in [the city of Beslan in the Russian state of] Ossetia were Muslim. The kidnappers who killed the Nepalese chefs and laborers [in Iraq] were also Muslims. Those who perpetrate acts of rape and murder in Darfur are Muslims, and their victims are Muslim also. Those who blew up civilian housing complexes in Riyadh and Khobar [Saudi Arabia] were Muslims. Those who kidnapped the two French reporters [in Iraq] were Muslim. The two women who blew up those two planes a week ago [in Russia] were Muslim.
Bin Laden is a Muslim and [the rebel cleric in Yemen, Husayn Badr al-Din] al-Hawthi is a Muslim, and most of those who carried out suicidal acts against buses, schools, houses, buildings all over the world in the past ten years also were Muslims. What a terrible record—doesn’t that say something to us about ourselves, our societies and our culture?
These images are grim, shameful and despicable for us when we gather them and lay them out together in one day [here in this article], however instead of ignoring and justifying them we must first recognize the validity [of this sad truth] and not compose articles and speeches declaring our innocence. It makes it easier for us to treat ourselves if we recognize the sickness. [For] self-treatment begins first by recognition. Then it is incumbent on us to repudiate our terrorist offspring, as they are a natural result of a distorted culture. Listen to what television sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi said, publicly issuing a fatwa giving permission to kill American civilians in Iraq. Imagine that, a religious scholar urging the killing of civilians, a sheik who belies the wisdom that old age supposedly brings, inciting the tender youth to kill civilians, [and] all the while he has two daughters who are studying in the safety of British protection in the infidel United Kingdom.
John Rennie wrote: > William Black wrote: >> FACE wrote:
>>> It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims >>> were not >>> terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously >>> correct.
>> Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones...
> And what about those buggers in 1776?
When they ran about doing terrorist stuff they were getting thrashed.
When they got organised and bought some uniforms and hired a Germans to teach them some drill and discipline they thrashed the arse off us...
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.
Iconoclast wrote: > On Nov 8, 1:18 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> FACE wrote: >>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:07:36 +0000, in alt.politics, William Black >>> <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>, wrote >>>> FACE wrote: >>>>> It was a muslim imam or whatever who said that though all muslims were not >>>>> terrorist, almost all terrorists were muslim. He was so obviously >>>>> correct. >>>> Well, except for the Irish and Basque ones... >>> Read all the words William >> 'Almost all'.
>> I assume you have some figures about how many terrorists there are in >> the world today.
>> -- >> William Black
> A proud graduate of Diversity Training joins the fray to let his > superiors know that his indoctrination in anti-Western thought was a > success.
Goodness, that was a mouthful...
Got any more gems like that lot?
If the Muslims nuked London, William would immediately attempt
> to minimize the horror of the holocaust by spouting out that the > Americans, long ago, nuked Hiroshima or some such PC nonsense.
Nope, just the usual bollocks...
-- William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff.