FYI
Jigsaw1695
Regardless of how you feel about Fox News and Glenn Beck, you need to
watch this video.
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/32549/
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
Would that be the same Glenn Beck whose hypocrisy Jon Stuart exposes
here ... ?
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Satan: A TV show. Six characters in search of a smack in the mouth.
- Andy Hamilton, Old Harry's Game
Jigsaw1695
Q. Z. Diablo) wrote:
ABSOLUTLY NOT!
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
> On Nov 7, 10:02?pm, dia...@notinnedmeat.freakishandunnatural.net (Mr
> Q. Z. Diablo) wrote:
> > Jigsaw1695 <Jigsaw1...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > Look at it if you have the courage:
> >
> > > Regardless of how you feel about Fox News and Glenn Beck, you need to
> > > watch this video.
> >
> > >http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/32549/
> >
> > Would that be the same Glenn Beck whose hypocrisy Jon Stuart exposes
> > here ... ?
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/oh3bby
> ABSOLUTLY NOT!
Strange. They could be twins ...
And with identical names. Extraordinary.
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Satan: Never say that in Hell, Prof.
Jigsaw1695
E-mail from a friend stationed at F. Hood.
Subject: What happened
Since I don't know when I'll sleep (it's 4 am now) I'll write what
happened (the abbreviated version.....the long one is already part of
the investigation with more to come). I'll not write about any part
of the investigation that I've learned about since (as a witness I
know more than I should since inevitably my JAG brothers and sisters
are deeply involved in the investigation). Don't assume that most of
the current media accounts are very accurate. They're not. They'll
improve with time. Only those of us who were there really know what
went down. But as they collate our statements they'll get it right.
I did my SRP last week (Soldier Readiness Processing) but you're
supposed to come back a week later to have them look at the smallpox
vaccination site (it's this big itchy growth on your shoulder). I am
probably alive because I pulled a ---------- and entered the wrong
building first (the main SRP building). The Medical SRP building is
off to the side. Realizing my mistake I left the main building and
walked down the sidewalk to the medical SRP building.
As I'm walking up to it the gunshots start. Slow and methodical. But
continuous. Two ambulatory wounded came out. Then two soldiers
dragging a third who was covered in blood. Hearing the shots but not
seeing the shooter, along with a couple other soldiers I stood in the
street and yelled at everyone who came running that it was clear but
to "RUN!". I kept motioning people fast. About 6-10 minutes later
(the shooting continuous), two cops ran up. one male, one female. we
pointed in the direction of the shots. they headed that way (the
medical SRP building was about 50 meters away). then a lot more
gunfire.
a couple minutes later a balding man in ACU's came around the building
carrying a pistol and holding it tactically. He started shooting at
us and we all dived back to the cars behind us. I don't think he hit
the couple other guys who were there. I did see the bullet holes
later in the cars. First I went behind a tire and then looked under
the body of the car. I've been trained how to respond to gunfire...but
with my own weapon. To have no weapon I don't know how to explain what
that felt like. I hadn't run away and stayed because I had thought
about the consequences or anything like that. I wasn't thinking
anything through. Please understand, there was no intention. I was
just staying there because I didn't think about running. It never
occurred to me that he might shoot me. Until he started shooting in
my direction and I realized I was unarmed.
Then the female cop comes around the corner. He shoots her.
(according to the news accounts she got a round into him. I believe
it, I just didn't see it. he didn't go down.) She goes down. He
starts reloading. He's fiddling with his mags. Weirdly he hasn't
dropped the one that was in his weapon. He's holding the fresh one
and the old one (you do that on the range when time is not of the
essence but in combat you would just let the old mag go). I see the
male cop around the left corner of the building. (I'm about 15-20
meters from the shooter.) I yell at the cop, "He's reloading, he's
reloading. Shoot him! Shoot him!) You have to understand, everything
was quiet at this point. The cop appears to hear me and comes around
the corner and shoots the shooter. He goes down. The cop kicks his
weapon further away.
I sprint up to the downed female cop. Another captain (I think he was
with me behind the cars) comes up as well. She's bleeding profusely
out of her thigh. We take our belts off and tourniquet her just like
we've been trained (I hope we did it right...we didn't have any CLS
(combat lifesaver) bags with their awesome tourniquets on us, so we
worked with what we had).
Meanwhile, in the most bizarre moment of the day, a photographer was
standing over us taking pictures. I suppose I'll be seeing those
tomorrow. Then a soldier came up and identified himself as a medic.
I then realized her weapon was lying there unsecured (and on "fire").
I stood over it and when I saw a cop yelled for him to come over and
secure her weapon (I would have done so but I was worried someone
would mistake me for a bad guy). I then went over to the shooter. He
was unconscious. A Lt Colonel was there and had secured his primary
weapon for the time being. He also had a revolver.
I couldn't believe he was one of ours. I didn't want to believe it.
Then I saw his name and rank and realized this wasn't just some
specialist with mental issues. At this point there was a guy there
from CID and I asked him if he knew he was the shooter and had him
secured. He said he did.
I then went over the slaughter house. the medical SRP building. No
human should ever have to see what that looked like. and I won't tell
you. Just believe me. Please. there was nothing to be done there.
Someone then said there was someone critically wounded around the
corner. I ran around (while seeing this floor to ceiling window that
someone had jumped through movie style) and saw a large African-
American soldier lying on his back with two or three soldiers
attending. I ran up and identified two entrance wounds on the right
side of his stomach, one exit wound on the left side and one head
wound. He was not bleeding externally from the stomach wounds (though
almost certainly internally) but was bleeding from the head wound. A
soldier was using a shirt to try and stop the head bleeding. He was
conscious so I began talking to him to keep him so. He was 42, from
North Carolina, he was named something Jr., his son was named
something III and he had a daughter as well. His children lived with
him. He was divorced. I told him the blubber on his stomach saved
his life. He smiled. a young soldier in civvies showed up and
identified himself as a combat medic. We debated whether to put him on
the back of a pickup truck. A doctor (well, an audiologist) showed up
and said you can't move him, he has a head wound. we finally sat
tight.
I went back to the slaughterhouse. they weren't letting anyone in
there. not even medics. finally, after about 45 minutes had elapsed
some cops showed up in tactical vests. someone said the TBI building
was unsecured. They headed into there. All of a sudden a couple more
shots were fired. People shouted there was a second shooter. a half
hour later the SWAT showed up. there was no second shooter. that had
been an impetuous cop apparently. but that confused things for a
while.
meanwhile I went back to the shooter. the female cop had been taken
away. a medic was pumping plasma into the shooter. I'm not proud of
this but I went up to her and said "this is the shooter, is there
anyone else who needs attention...do them first". she indicated
everyone else living was attended to. I still hadn't seen any EMTs or
ambulances. I had so much blood on me that people kept asking me if
I was ok. but that was all other people's blood. eventually (an hour
and a half to two hours after the shootings) they started landing
choppers. they took out the big African American guy and the
shooter. I guess the ambulatory wounded were all at the SRP
building. Everyone else in my area was dead.
I suppose the emergency responders were told there were multiple
shooters. I heard that was the delay with the choppers (they were all
civilian helicopters). they needed a secure LZ. but other than the
initial cops who did everything right, I didn't' see a lot of them for
a while. I did see many a soldier rush out to help their fellows/
sisters. there was one female soldier, I dont' know her name or rank
but I would recognize her anywhere who was everywhere helping people.
a couple people, mainly civilians, were hysterical, but only a
couple. one civilian freaked out when I tried to comfort her when she
saw my uniform. I guess she had seen the shooter up close. a lot of
soldiers were rushing out to help even when we thought there was
another gunman out there.
this Army is not broken no matter what the pundits say. not the Army
I saw. and then they kept me for a long time to come. oh, and perhaps
the most surreal thing, at 1500 (the end of the workday on Thursdays)
when the bugle sounded we all came to attention and saluted the flag.
in the middle of it all.
this is what I saw. it can't have been real. but this is my small
corner of what happened.
John Rennie
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> E-mail from a friend stationed at F. Hood.
>
>
>
> Subject: What happened
You must remember to post your links, jiggy.
http://rofasix.blogspot.com/2009/11/what-happened-ft-hood.html
Donna Evleth
> From: Jigsaw1695 <Jigsa...@aol.com>
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 17:22:29 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: FYI
>
>
>
> E-mail from a friend stationed at F. Hood.
Very interesting. Thank you, Jiggy.
Donna Evleth