Oh Boy is that Chavez Ever Dumb
Jigsaw1695
Santa Claus.
From the net
Colombia to Chavez: Maybe 'spy plane' was Santa
BOGOTA -- Colombia's defense chief joked Monday that Venezuelan troops
might have mistaken Santa's sleigh for a spy plane, dismissing
accusations by President Hugo Chavez about drones flying over
Venezuela.
Chavez on Sunday accused the United States of violating Venezuela's
airspace with an unmanned spy plane and ordered his military to be on
alert and shoot down any such aircraft.
The Pentagon has declined to comment on Chavez's accusations.
Colombian Defense Minister Gabriel Silva and armed forces commander
Freddy Padilla told reporters Monday that Colombian aircraft couldn't
fly the kind of espionage mission described by Chavez.
"Colombia doesn't have that capability," said Silva. He quipped that
perhaps "Venezuelan soldiers mistook Father Christmas' sleigh for a
spy plane."
Padilla said Colombia has only small, unmanned surveillance planes
that it uses to monitor pipelines and other installations against
sabotage by rebel groups.
"They don't have any firepower and what they do is observe to prevent
attacks on electrical towers," Padilla said.
Silva and Padilla did not discuss U.S. military capabilities at
Colombian bases.
Chavez has accused Colombia of allowing the United States to use its
military bases to prepare a possible attack on Venezuela.
Both the U.S. and Colombia have denied such allegations in the past,
saying the U.S. military presence is for the sole purpose of giving
support to Colombia in combatting drug traffickers and rebels.
Tensions between Venezuela and neighboring Colombia have been high for
months amid Chavez's accusations of warmongering and Colombian
President Alvaro Uribe's allegations that Venezuela has harbored
Colombian rebel leaders.
John Rennie
> The nex thing you know Chavez will be accusing the Americans of being
> Santa Claus.
>
>
> From the net
> Colombia to Chavez: Maybe 'spy plane' was Santa
>
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> BOGOTA -- Colombia's defense chief joked Monday that Venezuelan troops
> might have mistaken Santa's sleigh for a spy plane, dismissing
> accusations by President Hugo Chavez about drones flying over
> Venezuela.
>
> Chavez on Sunday accused the United States of violating Venezuela's
> airspace with an unmanned spy plane and ordered his military to be on
> alert and shoot down any such aircraft.
Don't accuse anyone else of being dumb, jiggy. You're
in no position to do so. The idea that the US does keep
an robotic eye on Venezuela seems perfectly reasonable
to me.
Earl Evleth
"John Rennie" <john-...@talktalk.net> wrote:
> The idea that the US does keep
> an robotic eye on Venezuela seems perfectly reasonable
> to me.
I don't know if it reasonable but it is probable.
Chavez is pushing militarization and beating the war
drums a bit with regard to Columbia and getting military
supplies from Russia and taking it up with the Iranians
and the Cubans.
Chavez accused the over flights of originating from Columbia.
In prior times the US would have invaded such a country or
the CIA would have arranged a coup. We seem less able to
do that now, in fact, the US performance in Iraq and Afghanistan
(following the Vietnam failure) gives the US a paper tiger image.`
But the US is still capable of punishing an upstart, as it did
in Grenada, the greatest military success since WWII.
Jigsaw1695
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I am talking about blaming Santa.
Jigsaw
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
What do you expect from a country named "Grenada". What Obama needs
is to invade the country of "Truk Bomba" or "Missileastan". Screw
this countries named after things other than war apparatus. What's
an "Iraq" anyway?
But consider that the invasion is now a national holiday in
Grenada:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
#begin quote
The invasion was criticized by the United Kingdom, Canada and the
United Nations General Assembly, which condemned it as "a flagrant
violation of international law".[5] It enjoyed broad public support
in the United States[6] as well as among segments of the people of
Grenada. October 25 is a national holiday in Grenada, called
Thanksgiving Day, to commemorate this event.
#end quote
--
Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you."
Earl Evleth
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
<tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> But consider that the invasion is now a national holiday in
> Grenada:
But not the US. What war endings does the nation celebrate.
WWI and WWII and it stopped there. No date to celebrate
the Korean War which ended in a stalemate. Vietnam was
a loss, perhaps the ending is celebrated in Vietnam.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
Earl Evleth wrote:
>
> On 22/12/09 22:27, in article 4B3139C0...@yahoo.co.uk, "Bill Bonde
> {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > But consider that the invasion is now a national holiday in
> > Grenada:
>
> But not the US.
>
Because the invasion didn't change anything in the US.
> What war endings does the nation celebrate.
> WWI and WWII and it stopped there. No date to celebrate
> the Korean War which ended in a stalemate. Vietnam was
> a loss, perhaps the ending is celebrated in Vietnam.
>
Americans "celebrate" on days that honour veterans, Veterans Day
and Memorial Day. This isn't limited to specific wars. In fact,
Memorial Day started to honour the efforts at reunification after
the US Civil War:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_day
#begin quote
Memorial Day is a United States federal holiday observed on the
last Monday of May (May 25 in 2009). Formerly known as Decoration
Day, it commemorates U.S. men and women who died while in the
military service.[1] First enacted to honor Union soldiers of the
American Civil War (it is celebrated near the day of reunification
after the Civil War), it was expanded after World War I.
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:52:24 +0000
> Subject: Re: Oh Boy is that Chavez Ever Dumb
Bill, you have talked about the history of Memorial Day, but you have not
talked about the history of Veterans' Day. Back in the olden days before
you were born, it was called Armistice Day. I grew up with it under that
name. The Armistice involved was the Armistice which ended WWI.
Wikipedia, which I cite here, tells us how Armistice Day became Veterans'
Day.
An Act (52 Stat. 351; 5 U. S. Code, Sec. 87a) approved May 13, 1938, made
the 11th of November in each year a legal holiday�a day to be dedicated to
the cause of world peace and to be thereafter celebrated and known as
"Armistice Day." Armistice Day was primarily a day set aside to honor
veterans of World War I, but in 1954, after World War II had required the
greatest mobilization of soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen in the
Nation�s history; after American forces had fought aggression in Korea, the
83rd Congress, at the urging of the veterans service organizations, amended
the Act of 1938 by striking out the word "Armistice" and inserting in its
place the word "Veterans." With the approval of this legislation (Public Law
380) on June 1, 1954, November 11th became a day to honor American veterans
of all wars.
Later that same year, on October 8th, President Dwight D. Eisenhower issued
the first "Veterans Day Proclamation" which stated: "In order to insure
proper and widespread observance of this anniversary, all veterans, all
veterans' organizations, and the entire citizenry will wish to join hands in
the common purpose. Toward this end, I am designating the Administrator of
Veterans' Affairs as Chairman of a Veterans Day National Committee, which
shall include such other persons as the Chairman may select, and which will
coordinate at the national level necessary planning for the observance. I am
also requesting the heads of all departments and agencies of the Executive
branch of the Government to assist the National Committee in every way
possible."
President Eisenhower signing HR7786, changing Armistice Day to Veterans Day.
President Eisenhower signing HR7786, changing Armistice Day to Veterans Day.
From left: Alvin J. King, Wayne Richards, Arthur J. Connell, John T. Nation,
Edward Rees, Richard L. Trombla, Howard W. Watts
On that same day, President Eisenhower sent a letter to the Honorable Harvey
V. Higley, Administrator of Veterans' Affairs (VA), designating him as
Chairman of the Veterans Day National Committee.
In 1958, the White House advised VA's General Counsel that the 1954
designation of the VA Administrator as Chairman of the Veterans Day National
Committee applied to all subsequent VA Administrators. Since March 1989 when
VA was elevated to a cabinet level department, the Secretary of Veterans
Affairs has served as the committee's chairman.
The Uniform Holiday Bill (Public Law 90-363 (82 Stat. 250)) was signed on
June 28, 1968, and was intended to ensure three-day weekends for Federal
employees by celebrating four national holidays on Mondays: Washington's
Birthday, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Columbus Day. It was thought that
these extended weekends would encourage travel, recreational and cultural
activities and stimulate greater industrial and commercial production. Many
states did not agree with this decision and continued to celebrate the
holidays on their original dates.
The first Veterans Day under the new law was observed with much confusion on
October 25, 1971. It was quite apparent that the commemoration of this day
was a matter of historic and patriotic significance to a great number of our
citizens, and so on September 20th, 1975, President Gerald R. Ford signed
Public Law 94-97 (89 Stat. 479), which returned the annual observance of
Veterans Day to its original date of November 11, beginning in 1978. This
action supported the desires of the overwhelming majority of state
legislatures, all major veterans service organizations and the American
people.
Veterans Day continues to be observed on November 11, regardless of what day
of the week on which it falls. The restoration of the observance of Veterans
Day to November 11 not only preserves the historical significance of the
date, but helps focus attention on the important purpose of Veterans Day: A
celebration to honor America's veterans for their patriotism, love of
country, and willingness to serve and sacrifice for the common good.
Donna Evleth
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
I thought that it was proof enough that Earl was incorrect, since
he claimed that the days were based on WWI and WWII. I showed that
there are exactly *two* such days and one is because of the US
Civil War. That means that there is only one left over for both WWI
and WWII thus proving that Earl is wrong.
> Back in the olden days before
> you were born,
>
I apologize for not being 150 years old so I could lord that over
you.
> it was called Armistice Day. I grew up with it under that
> name. The Armistice involved was the Armistice which ended WWI.
>
I'm well aware of that. Or see Anzac Day:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzac_Day
--
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:26:05 +0000
> Subject: Re: Oh Boy is that Chavez Ever Dumb
>
> I apologize for not being 150 years old so I could lord that over
> you.
Bill Bonde has actually apologized for something! I think I shall faint
dead away.
Donna Evleth
John Rennie
What a mean remark it was tho'. He can't apologise
properly; it isn't in his nature.
Earl Evleth
d309baf9-6602-457b...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com,
"Jigsaw1695" <Jigsa...@aol.com> wrote:
> I am talking about blaming Santa.
By the time your were 8 you should have given
up on Santa.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
Should I apologize for not being 150 years old? Is that
mistreatment of someone else?
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
Apologize for what? I'm a nice guy, I treat people reasonably, what
should I apologize for?
Donna Evleth
> From: John Rennie <john-...@talktalk.net>
> Reply-To: john-...@talktalk.net
> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:08:26 +0000
> Subject: Re: Oh Boy is that Chavez Ever Dumb
>
> Donna Evleth wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
>>> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
>>> those who come after us.
>>> Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty
>>> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:26:05 +0000
>>> Subject: Re: Oh Boy is that Chavez Ever Dumb
>>>
>>> I apologize for not being 150 years old so I could lord that over
>>> you.
>>
>> Bill Bonde has actually apologized for something! I think I shall faint
>> dead away.
>>
>> Donna Evleth
>>
>
> What a mean remark it was tho'. He can't apologise
> properly; it isn't in his nature.
Which is exactly why I twitted him about his backhanded "apology".
Donna Evleth
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
I don't follow what either of you are talking about. What am I
supposed to apologize for this time? What was the "mean remark"? I
didn't make any mean remark.
hls
"Jigsaw1695" <Jigsa...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1fa80c08-f06f-4b6d...@r14g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> The nex thing you know Chavez will be accusing the Americans of being
> Santa Claus.
>
>
Lest history repeat itself, I would counsel "El chancho" to forego waving a
polished
sword or machete during a press meeting. I think that act really put the
last straw
on the camel for Noriega and Hussein.
Mr Q. Z. Diablo
> On Dec 22, 6:29???am, John Rennie <john-ren...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>> Jigsaw1695 wrote:
>> > The nex thing you know Chavez will be accusing the Americans of being
>> > Santa Claus.
>>
>> > From the net
>> > Colombia to Chavez: Maybe 'spy plane' was Santa
>>
>> > BOGOTA -- Colombia's defense chief joked Monday that Venezuelan troops
>> > might have mistaken Santa's sleigh for a spy plane, dismissing
>> > accusations by President Hugo Chavez about drones flying over
>> > Venezuela.
>>
>> > Chavez on Sunday accused the United States of violating Venezuela's
>> > airspace with an unmanned spy plane and ordered his military to be on
>> > alert and shoot down any such aircraft.
>>
>> in no position to do so. ???The idea that the US does keep
>> an robotic eye on Venezuela seems perfectly reasonable
>> to me.- Hide quoted text -
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> I am talking about blaming Santa.
Were you? If so, then it was Colombia's defence chief who suggested blaming
Santa. Chaves intimated no such thing.
Can you, just for once, be right about something, Jiggy?
--
A face full of divertamenti