Re: Response to NIST's Invitation for Written Comments: Demolition of WTC 7
Al Dykes
Mark Graffis <mgra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8472
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> Undisputed Facts Point to the Controlled Demolition of WTC 7
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> by Richard Gage
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> Global Research, March 28, 2008
> Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
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> Response to NIST's Invitation for Written Comments
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> Documentation of spoken remarks presented on December 18 conference call
>with the NCST
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> Advisory Committee Emailed to NIST on January 3, 2008
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> Richard Gage, AIA Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
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> I'm Richard Gage, AIA, a licensed architect of 20 years. I represent
>Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, a fast-growing body of more than 230
>architects and engineers dedicated solely to bringing out the truth about all
>three high-rise building collapses on 9/11. We believe that we have answers to
Prof. Jones, David Ray Griffin, and Richard Gage make Shit
up. Witnesses William Rodriquez, John Schroeder, Scott Forbes, and
Kevin McPadden are the source of much of the core "Truth Movement"
claims.
To date, none of these people will speak to any but "TM friendly"
groups. They will only speak to groups that are ignorant of any the
claims being made and, hence, unable to ask meaningful questions.
That's what makes the children's crusade of the "Truth Movement" the
huge failure it is. Everyone that knows anything about aviation,
engineering or modern history laughs at the claims.
99.999% of the people with relevant expertise disagree with gage's
assertions. The .001% that do don't have the balls to speak in front
of people with relevant expertise to defend their assertions. They
just sell books and DVDs to people that are ignorant of relevant
engineering, aviation, and history.
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
Fred Williams
> Prof. Jones, David Ray Griffin, and Richard Gage make Shit
> up. Witnesses William Rodriquez, John Schroeder, Scott Forbes, and
> Kevin McPadden are the source of much of the core "Truth Movement"
> claims.
>
> To date, none of these people will speak to any but "TM friendly"
> groups. They will only speak to groups that are ignorant of any the
> claims being made and, hence, unable to ask meaningful questions.
>
> That's what makes the children's crusade of the "Truth Movement" the
> huge failure it is. Everyone that knows anything about aviation,
> engineering or modern history laughs at the claims.
>
> 99.999% of the people with relevant expertise disagree with gage's
> assertions. The .001% that do don't have the balls to speak in front
> of people with relevant expertise to defend their assertions. They
> just sell books and DVDs to people that are ignorant of relevant
> engineering, aviation, and history.
>
It shouldn't have anything to do with aviation or engineering! It
should have to do with the crooks in Washington needing an excuse to
wage war and make billions if not trillions of dollars. They've made
so much money it's actually driving down the value of the dollar,
together with their banking friends.
I should be about the links between the Bush family, the Saud family,
and the bin-Laden family. It should be about the air force fighters
being diverted on the day and only two left to patrol the North East
United States, for the fist time since the United States Air Force took
up the task of defending the country with fighters on station, and that
goes back to the days of propeller driven aircraft. That on the same
day the president's friend decides to stage four hijackings.
It should be about a lot of things, but whther the building fell down
one way or another really doesn't matter a rats a**. It would have in
fact been a better propaganda ploy if the whole buildings hadn't fallen
down, because they were phallic symbols and it would have shown the
potency of the U.S. As it was, it showed something else. We should
also remember that everybody thought those towers could withstand the
impact of an aircraft, and they did withstand the impact, just nobody
calculated the heat into the equation. If the buildings had stood as
expected, the Western economy wouldn't have gone into a year and a half
slump the way it did, and Bush wouldn't have had to change the line in
his speech about, America still standing like those towers in New York,
unbowed and with grime determination... Or something close to that.
You can just hear him now, can't you? The people who were really
scrambling that day were his speech writers and the spin doctors.
--
Regards,
Fred
<http://www.fredwilliams.ca/thesecretofmoney.html>
Al Dykes
Fred Williams <uncl...@webruler.com> wrote:
>On Sunday 30 March 2008 11:10, Al Dykes wrote:
>
>
>> Prof. Jones, David Ray Griffin, and Richard Gage make Shit
>> up. Witnesses William Rodriquez, John Schroeder, Scott Forbes, and
>> Kevin McPadden are the source of much of the core "Truth Movement"
>> claims.
>>
>> To date, none of these people will speak to any but "TM friendly"
>> groups. They will only speak to groups that are ignorant of any the
>> claims being made and, hence, unable to ask meaningful questions.
>>
>> That's what makes the children's crusade of the "Truth Movement" the
>> huge failure it is. Everyone that knows anything about aviation,
>> engineering or modern history laughs at the claims.
>>
>> 99.999% of the people with relevant expertise disagree with gage's
>> assertions. The .001% that do don't have the balls to speak in front
>> of people with relevant expertise to defend their assertions. They
>> just sell books and DVDs to people that are ignorant of relevant
>> engineering, aviation, and history.
>>
> It shouldn't have anything to do with aviation or engineering! It
>should have to do with the crooks in Washington needing an excuse to
Sorry. Wrong. Gage claims molten steel and man-made explosives at
WTC. That is an engineering claim. If those are shown wrong, the
"Truth Movement' suddenly become much smaller, better to focus on the
real crimes in Washington.
The "truth Movement" has confused "asking questions" with making
unsubstantiated assertions, not listening to the polite responses and
shouting "Inside Job!" over a bullhorn, and selling books and DVDs to
children.
To believe that something other than 4 hijacked airplanes caused all
the destruction on 9/11 is to look stupid and IMO, this is the real
purpose of the "Truth Movement", to make critics of the administration
look like idiots
Screw Bush and the Bush administration.
Screw the "Truth Movement".
Liars, all of them.
Purge the nuts that base their other beliefs on that bullshit and
maybe you will actually help find something.
Fred Williams
> In article <13uvd98...@corp.supernews.com>,
> Fred Williams <uncl...@webruler.com> wrote:
>>On Sunday 30 March 2008 11:10, Al Dykes wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Prof. Jones, David Ray Griffin, and Richard Gage make Shit
>>> up. Witnesses William Rodriquez, John Schroeder, Scott Forbes, and
>>> Kevin McPadden are the source of much of the core "Truth Movement"
>>> claims.
>>>
>>> To date, none of these people will speak to any but "TM friendly"
>>> groups. They will only speak to groups that are ignorant of any the
>>> claims being made and, hence, unable to ask meaningful questions.
>>>
>>> That's what makes the children's crusade of the "Truth Movement" the
>>> huge failure it is. Everyone that knows anything about aviation,
>>> engineering or modern history laughs at the claims.
>>>
>>> 99.999% of the people with relevant expertise disagree with gage's
>>> assertions. The .001% that do don't have the balls to speak in front
>>> of people with relevant expertise to defend their assertions. They
>>> just sell books and DVDs to people that are ignorant of relevant
>>> engineering, aviation, and history.
>>>
>> It shouldn't have anything to do with aviation or engineering!
>> It
>>should have to do with the crooks in Washington needing an excuse to
>
>
>
>
> Sorry. Wrong.
Sorry, right!
> Gage claims molten steel and man-made explosives at
> WTC. That is an engineering claim. If those are shown wrong, the
> "Truth Movement' suddenly become much smaller, better to focus on the
> real crimes in Washington.
>
They *are* wrong, and it still *was* a false flag operation. The
claims about "other bombs in the towers" are also a false flag
operation to discredit the truth movement. Debaters have been
sidetracked into arguing about engineering trivia instead of looking at
the corruption and networking of people driving the oil industry and
the military establishment. They tend to forget that the day after
9/11, there were FBI planes flying in the sky when nobody else was
allowed so that members of the bin-Laden family and the Saud family
could safely get out of the country. The bin-Ladens and the Sauds are
long time friends of the Bush family.
>
> The "truth Movement" has confused "asking questions" with making
> unsubstantiated assertions, not listening to the polite responses and
> shouting "Inside Job!" over a bullhorn, and selling books and DVDs to
> children.
>
That's a bit of a hatchet job on their character.
> To believe that something other than 4 hijacked airplanes caused all
> the destruction on 9/11 is to look stupid
Well, it's wrong for sure. We agree on that.
> and IMO, this is the real
> purpose of the "Truth Movement", to make critics of the administration
> look like idiots
>
Are you saying it's a false flag op?