Re: More anti-sex hysteria
wonderer
"Brandon D Cartwright" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:14:58 +0930, David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:45:25 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:10:29 +0930, David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:38:12 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:07:57 +0930, David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:57:32 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>>><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:37:43 +0930, David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:14:34 -0700, Brandon D Cartwright
>>>>>>>><us...@example.net> typed furiously:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But the family says the incident has already had an effect on the
>>>>>>>>>11
>>>>>>>>>and 13 year old girls.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"They slept the other night with their backs to each other, told
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>other one watch that way and I'll watch this way. When they found
>>>>>>>>>out
>>>>>>>>>he was out of jail, they made sure our door was locked, made sure
>>>>>>>>>their windows were locked," the girls' mother said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And if the aunt had laughed about the incident they would have been
>>>>>>>>quite relaxed and their normal selves. In this case it is the family
>>>>>>>>that has traumatised the children not Mr Hensley. Because the aunt
>>>>>>>>took him seriously the children are now so scared that they may
>>>>>>>>never
>>>>>>>>recover.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Spare us your stale pedospeak that you routinely trot out in *any*
>>>>>>>discussion of a child rape victim..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>What child rape voctime would that be?
>>>>>
>>>>>I guess the most egregious case would be your support of the repeated
>>>>>gang rapes of a mentally handicapped ten year old aborigine girl by a
>>>>>convicted adult sex offender and his gang..
>>>>>
>>>>I did not support the rape.
>>>
>>>No ...as per usual for you..you said it wasn't rape and that the poor
>>>child had *consented* and "asked for it"..
>>>
>>>> I pointed out to you the comments by the
>>>>magistrate
>>>
>>>That would be the judge who was universally condemned for them and
>>>all of whose cases are being reviewed..right?
>>>
>>Magistrate is the correct title.
>
> Rubbish... Judge Sarah Bradley is the correct title..
wrong agaun, this is australia, we opperate under bririsk law, there are
several levels of courts courts, frm majistrate courts up to the supreme
courts in each state, the the federal courts, commonwaelth court and high
court, these handle federal law, and appeals from state courts.
>
>> Politicians are the ones calling for a review, not the judiciary.
>
>
> utter garbage..
not garbage, the government in this state have strengthen several laws,
sutch as laws to do with motor bike gangs.
>
> "Justice de Jersey said serious errors had made the sentences handed
> down by Cairns District Court judge Sarah Bradley manifestly
> inadequate.
not so, he does not obey american law.
>
> "These errors were so serious as to produce a clear miscarriage of
> justice," Chief Justice de Jersey said."
>
>
>
>
>>
>>In case you were not aware of it our judiciary (Judges and
>>magistrates) are appointed not elected. There is no need for them to
>>bow to public opinion. In America, where judges are elected, the
>>judges have to bow to public pressure of they will not be re-elected.
>>Our judiciary always tries to do the right thing and sometimes they
>>are condemned when they are obeying the law as it is laid down. This
>>is one of those cases. If the law gets changed their sentencing habits
>>change.
>
> Unmitigated bullshit and pedophile propaganda..
wrong again, we do not elect judges, the apointie must have served at least
20 years as a barister/solicitor before theyu are apointed into the position
as a judge.
>
> A good result in Aurukun rape case
>
> http://iainhall.wordpress.com/2008/06/14/a-good-result-in-aurukun-rape-case/
>
> I saw this on the news last night and I just could not help feeling
> very pleased that these rapists will actually have convictions
> recorded and some of them will do some time in jail.
>
> Justice de Jersey said serious errors had made the sentences handed
> down by Cairns District Court judge Sarah Bradley manifestly
> inadequate.
>
> "These errors were so serious as to produce a clear miscarriage of
> justice," Chief Justice de Jersey said.
that is why we have the right of both parties to appeal to the supreme
court/ high court.
>
> Yesterday's judgment found a rush to catch a plane and a massive
> judicial workload influenced the initial decision not to jail the
> males.
>
> Justice de Jersey said the Court of Appeal had to impose fresh
> sentences that reflected the gravity of the rape of a 10-year-old girl
> balanced with the mitigating circumstances.
>
> He said the appeals had to be allowed even though the sentences were
> essentially in accordance with the submissions of the prosecution.
>
> "The prosecution must bear substantial responsibility for what
> occurred but the errors which attended the sentencing cannot be
> accounted for by the submissions of the prosecution," he said. "The
> imposition of a proper sentence was ultimately the responsibility of
> the judge."
>
> He said that while the three adults should be jailed and two of the
> youths ordered into detention, the other four youths should be given
> the maximum three years' probation with a conviction recorded.
>
> He said this was in recognition of their efforts to move from negative
> peer pressure and rehabilitate themselves.
>
>
> The Australian
>
>
>>>
>>>> and prosecutor in the case which you, as always, were
>>>>completely ignoring.
>>>
>>>That would be the prosecutor who was fired for his grotesque attack on
>>>the victim...right?
>>>
>>Except he was NOT fired as you have been told repeatedly. He was
>>suspended pending an investigation and is probably back at his job by
>>now.
>
> as if..
>
> Rape Apologist Prosecutor Resigns
>
> http://thecurvature.com/2008/01/04/rape-apologist-prosecutor-resigns/
>
> Steve Carter, the Queensland prosecutor who called the gang rape of a
> 10-year-old Aboriginal girl "childish experimentation" and didn't
> recommend jail time for the rapists, has finally resigned.
>
> Former Tasmanian police officer Steve Carter was hired as a Crown
> prosecutor in Cairns in 2000 but demoted to legal officer 18 months
> ago over unspecified work issues.
>
> Last month The Australian revealed Mr Carter had not pursued jail
> terms for nine males who gang-raped the girl at Aurukun in 2005,
> prompting Director of Public Prosecutions Leanne Clare to launch an
> internal investigation.
>
> Not being a member of the Queensland Law Society nor the Queensland
> Bar Association, Mr Carter had no one to defend him against the
> international outrage, unlike District Court judge Sarah Bradley, who
> received support from various quarters.
>
> Mr Carter, whose daughter was upset by the public reaction, denied he
> was the "the fall guy" but claimed the full story had yet to emerge.
>
> He suggested the girl, who had been abused as a child and let down by
> the Department of Child Safety, was highly sexualised and consented to
> sex "in a non-legal way" in exchange for alcohol and cigarettes.
>
> Mr Carter was stood down on full pay and asked to show cause why he
> should not be disciplined. He had until January 14 to respond but
> yesterday morning tendered his resignation, effective at the end of
> the day.
>
>
>
>>>>
>>>>>but there hasn't been a case where you haven't eagerly alleged the
>>>>>child consented and/or "asked for it"..
>>>>>
>>>>Wrong. Liar.
>>>
>>>Your posting history speaks for itself..
>>>
>>As does yours except that you try to hide yours by using the
>>x-no-archive switch.
>
> Your absurd hypocrisy knows no bounds ..does it?
>
> You have the audacity to criticize others for utilizing a FACILLITY
> YOU USE YOURSELF?
>
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> From: David <faro...@picknowl.com.au>
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> Subject: Re: More anti-sex hysteria
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:14:58 +0930
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>> Your ideal would be to bring back the gulags and
>>concentration camps so that your love of torturing people can be given
>>free reign. Perhaps you should apply for a job as a guard at
>>Guantanamo Bay or is that your current occupation?
>
> You get more and more like a k00k each time you post..
>
>
>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The only victim in this case is
>>>>>>Hemsley.
>>>>>
>>>>>So you say
>>>>>
>>>>It is self evident. He spent three days locked up for no crime.
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually the pervert has got away with it ..hasn't he?
>>>>>
>>>>As a politician he would always be on the lookout to compliment people
>>>>and their children if it would win him more votes. It just so happens
>>>>that the aunt was a humourless person who over-reacted.
>>>
>>>calling the police entirely appropriate ...
>>>
>>Laughing and a polite refusal would have been far less traumatic to
>>the children.
>>[...]
>>>> I see it as a joke and a compliment which
>>>>was the way it was intended.
>>>
>>>not your call..
>>>
>>You're right. It was Mr Hemsley's call and I quoted from his remarks
>>as reported.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In this specific case
>>>>>>you are wrong. *All* the damage to the children has been done by the
>>>>>>hysterical reaction of the family.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>No doubt the police have told them they are going to keep a sharp eye
>>>>>>>on this creature in the future..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why should they?
>>>>>
>>>>>To reassure them that he will not approach them or other young
>>>>>children again..
>>>>>
>>>>What a load of poppycock. The police would have better things to do.
>>>>Perhaps they could catch some real criminals instead of your ideal
>>>>criminal.
>>>
>>>Wrong..the police take a serious view of potential threats to
>>>children..
>>>
>>What threat? The man paid the children a compliment. In my opinion he
>>expected nothing more than a refusal and a laugh.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> He has not actually done anything wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rubbish ..a fifty two year old man has no business approaching
>>>>> eleven year old girls and suggesting they sleep with him..
>>>>>
>>>>>> You are suggesting that he should be locked up in spite of your
>>>>>> denials. Guess
>>>>>>you run true to form after all.
>>>>>
>>>>>No..I said he is in clear need of a psychiatric evaluation..
>>>>
>>>>As I said you run true to form. I suggested at the beginning of this
>>>>thread you would simply pronounce him guilty and therefore want to
>>>>shut him away from society, perform medical experiments on him and
>>>>harvest his organs for transplants.
>>>
>>>Yes you did...an absurd suggestion but typical for you..
>>>
>>>Any strange adult approaching small children with such lewd
>>>suggestions needs their head examining..
>>>
>>>It's not rocket science..
>>>
>>Exactly, you pronounce him guilty even though the charges were
>>dismissed.
>>>
>>>>Yet you claim to stand for justice. "What a maroon." as the immortal
>>>>rabbit used to say.
>>>
>>>You are a dangerous deluded old fool who will find out all about
>>>justice if you start approaching all these children you claim to see
>>>masturbating on your own supermarket trips with your perverted
>>>ideas..
>>
>>Why would I approach any child I did not know?
>
> Why should a sixty-eight year old man like you be obsessed with sex
> and toddlers..and their so called "right" to sex with their parents
> and other adults in the first place ?
>
> That is a much more salient question.
>
>> I'm not as silly as you look.
>
> no doubt you are extremely careful...but folk like you are not always
> in control of their own actions are they?
>
> Which is why self-professed abstinence is not an effective means of
> social control as far as pedophiles are concerned..
> --
> From: David (I'm not a pedophile)<faro...@picknowl.com.au>
>
> Message-ID: <m3gtn31eqvf9dv9cb...@4ax.com>
>
> " I want to free children from the tyranny
> of externally imposed celibacy. "
>
> " It is about giving children the right to choose with whom
> they will have sex."