Newgon.com: "Positive" accounts of Adult-Child Sex
tsis...@gmail.com
Examples:
# kimxxxyyy (YouTube) at 12 with her adult male partner. "I never once
thought anything wrong or bad, or that I was doing anything wrong or
bad [...] We had a normal relationship...I saw nothing wrong with it,
and I still see nothing wrong with it".
# Boy in Dan Tsang (1981), "The age taboo". London: Gay Men's Press.
"It's often not the man who goes out to seduce the boy, but the other
way round. In my first experience, I did the seducing. . . . It is
mostly the boys who go out in search of sexual satisfaction from
men..."
# Post by “Gothic Trollita” in discussion of pedophilia is not okay in
a forum on Gaia Online, June 30, 2007. A 13-year-old girl writes about
having “a number of perfectly healthy sexual relationships with adults
… [including a current] relationship with a sixteen year-old girl who
I understand and who understands me on a level unparalleled by what I
believe I could reach with anyone my age.”
Damaeus
Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT):
> # Post by “Gothic Trollita” in discussion of pedophilia is not okay in
> a forum on Gaia Online, June 30, 2007. A 13-year-old girl writes about
> having “a number of perfectly healthy sexual relationships with adults
> … [including a current] relationship with a sixteen year-old girl who
> I understand and who understands me on a level unparalleled by what I
> believe I could reach with anyone my age.”
This ENTIRE post is talking about consensual sex only, not
non-consensual sex or all-out rape. I want to make that clear from
the start.
That intergenerational understanding happens when people connect on a
spiritual level instead of a physical level. An old spirit in a young
body will connect with an old spirit in an old body, hence the sense
of connection.
It's interesting that man's law, created by people who often claim to
be doing the morally right things under God, are ignoring matters of
the spirit in intergenerational relationships. All the
holier-than-thou see is some dirty pervert after a piece of young
meat, when, in their positions, they SHOULD be observing matters of
spirit. This isn't a matter for the government to be involved in at
all. I can't think of anything that one human being could possibly
judge about another two humans, when that "observer" cannot know the
way either of them see the world or each other. It's absolutely
impossible.
The MOST I could ever see happening for the time being is setting up
some kind of, I don't know, a government-sponsored necklace system
where each of them receives a decorative emblem to wear on a chain as
a symbol of love. It shows that both of them had the courage to show
up for "licensing" and neither of them seemed to be in distress about
it. Having shown that kind of openness, they should be allowed to
exist happily, and should be free to go where they please, I think.
But that whole paragraph is just a compromise. Ultimately I see no
reason even for that, except to give peace of mind to everyone except
the pair that matters the most. I see no reason why a couple should
have to inconvenience themselves just to make everyone else feel
happy, safe and comfortable that nobody is mentally ill in the whole
fiasco.
I think there's something to be said for the ancient Greek boys who
went to men outside the family to really learn. The father knows the
kid from a baby and a prepubescent boy. He might be too eager for the
kid to either grow up or remain a child. If the boy goes outside the
family to find a man he can trust and learn from, he gets to become a
man from someone who is more-than-likely neutral in the matter, and
more willing to let the boy grow in his own way, and at his own pace,
rather than pushing in one area or another.
I think this is the way boy lovers would rather be seen in today's
society, but society refuses to see it that way. So instead of having
healthy relationship between boys and men outside the family, we end
up with a boys and men who sneak off in the night and have sex, and so
much of the quality stuff they could be doing out in the open is
thrown in the trash. All this comes from a lack of trust on
everyone's part, really. But today's parents can't be to blame
totally. This is a problem that's been passed down through the ages.
As the morality of one has affected the lives of many, people have
become more oppressed, and so darker things are happening to kids than
would have to happen if everything was just out in the open, honest,
and trusting.
It's interesting to observe how governments want peace, but they also
want secrets. You can't have it both ways. Whether in family or in
politics, where there are secrets, there are problems, lies, worries,
stress, anxiety, emotional pain and family disruptions.
Where there is full openness and nobody is out for personal gain,
there is awareness, which results in peace of mind, which results in
comfort and trust.
If the relationships between boys and men today could be as open as
they were in ancient Greece, most of the cases of kidnapped and
murdered children would disappear because the conditions which set
children up for kidnapping will be gone: making them forbidden fruit.
But, we chose the forbidden fruit route, instead. Now we keep our
kids on tight leashes when they're young. We tell them to never talk
to strangers, to stay away from people who make you feel
uncomfortable, etc...., and so our kids grow up isolationists. They'd
rather have just a few friends and stay at home, inside where it's
nice and safe inside the four familiar walls. Then they can zone out
into themselves, find their inner child which has been adulterated
into non-existence by parental and societal oppression, not to mention
the mixed signals of "children are our future" and "they have no right
to consent".
It's not that I'm against parents watching out for their kids, but
it's so bad that when I'm delivering a pizza, even to people I've
delivered to for years, sometimes if their kids are closer to me than
their parents are, the parents look at me like I'm going to grab their
kid and run down the street with him, then they tell the kid, "Come
over here next to me." Well, I couldn't be any less interested in
doing that than being buried alive in cow shit.
Biologically speaking, the right time for exploring sexuality is when
the hormones are produced. That's when the hormones also affect the
brain and prepare it to psychologically accept the experience of sex.
If our laws are made by people who don't seem to understand what God
is really all about, then they should appreciate the scientific,
atheistic approach of biology, accept that sex is right when biology
dictates it, and stop trying to have it both ways. They shouldn't
preach their anti-pederast interpretation of God when none of them can
know what God is about if all they're going by is what someone wrote
hundreds of years ago.
Problems always arise when you fuck up mother nature's ways. Chastise
sex when it's right for it to happen, and it's like wrapping tape
around a rose so it can't bloom. Sex becomes repressed and
disfunction occurs later. Shame on the parents for being so lazy that
they can't help their kids through sex, but instead forbid it
altogether, then go plop down on the couch to watch TV or play on the
computer.
It would be much better if consensual, intergeneraional sex could be a
nice thing that could be remembered with fondness instead of the
nightmare it's turned into by hasty parents who don't think to ask
questions of the kid before they start calling his lover a monster.
They don't wait to hear anything meaningful or good about the man from
their own son, even after actually getting him back alive...and come
to find out, six or seven times over the last couple or three weeks!
He sure is a strange sort of evil monster who lets his prey come and
go as he pleases, isn't it?
Yeah, everybody was happy until the parents found out. Then
everyone's lives are destroyed when the kid has to rehearse
interrogations and court cases, then redo the whole thing in front of
a jury. Then the kid is called a faggot at school, maybe even has to
be home schooled just to keep him from coming home with a new set of
bruises every day, and who knows...probably even raped at school by
other boys, as mean as some of them are nowadays. He loses his
friends because of peer pressure, and becomes a recluse. But the
parents got what they wanted. They taught that pervert a lesson, but
in doing so, they brought destruction on their own son. How fitting.
A perfect example of an eye for an eye. They go after the pervert,
but in using their son as a weapon, their son is destroyed.
The other way around, had everything been out in the open, that
"pervert" could become a trusted friend of the family instead of some
evil child-molesting monster in the darkness, and you don't know where
he's hiding your precious baby. Now which experience would you rather
have if you discover someone in your family has had consensual sex
with an adult? With everything out in the open, and not using your
son as a weapon to destroy a boy lover, your son remains happy, not
destroyed. The boy lover becomes someone you know and trust, and even
learn about. You might learn something more about how he sees the
world, and in doing so, even connect with a deeper part of yourself
that's been hidden since you buried your own childhood in the past.
There's something to be said for loving your neighbor if we're all
aspiring to eternal life. I doubt we'd be able to attain eternal life
as long as there are these kinds of disagreements in society. Loving
your neighbor, even if he's a boy lover, is better than hating him by
destroying him using your own flesh and blood. Proof of this is in
the act of destruction of another, which immediately reflects that
destruction back at your son, multiplied by the number of people in
your family, be it immediate family, and/or close relatives and
friends, spread out through your social circle. If there are ten
family members, it comes back at you tenfold, obviously. Even the
simplest of minds should understand this, atheists, Christians,
Wiccans and Satanists.
Damaeus
tsis...@gmail.com
> In news:alt.activism.children, tsist...@gmail.com posted on Mon, 11
You might like to post that on their forum. You will probably get a
good reception.
tsis...@gmail.com
You might like to post that on their forum. You will probably get a
good reception.
quint
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Often there will be very _over_ age pedo's who post thing like that
pretending to be kids. It's a sexual outlet for them as erotic fiction, and
they also use it to spread the mis-perception that lots of children love to
be molested.
Not that it makes it ok either way.
tsis...@gmail.com
> <tsist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:90a51533-8db8-4935...@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
Notice that examples were from personal correspondence with a Gay
Author and a young woman who went on video.
Patriot Games
>http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>Examples:
It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>This ENTIRE post is talking about consensual sex only, not
>non-consensual sex or all-out rape. I want to make that clear from
>the start.
It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
Damaeus
posted on Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:07:34 -0400:
> It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
Why respond to me with that?
I'm not a pedophile. I'm neutral observer of human nature.
So I say "fuck you" and fuck your lack of reading comprehension
skills.
Damaeus
4s00th
Isn't it interesting that some people WANT TO KILL some people WHO ARE
SEXUALLY ATTRACTED in ways that they might not approve?
And yet, if a pedophile doesn't actually have sex with a child, how
his desire to do so any worse than this "normal" person's desire to
commit murder?
It's rather ironic, I think, that those who lust to kill don't see
their own sins while they are oh, so observant of others.
If a person molests a child, then he or she deserves to be put away by
the law -- but until he or she actually does that, then his sin is no
less than those who want to kill him or her for his ore her feelings.
So much for the moral high ground.
If you send email, I will reply to it here at asbl
(without showing your email addy)
unless you ask me not to.
Fred Brown
"4s00th" <4s0...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:19 -0400, Patriot Games
> <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>>>Examples:
>>
>>It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>
> Isn't it interesting that some people WANT TO KILL some people WHO ARE
> SEXUALLY ATTRACTED in ways that they might not approve?
>
> And yet, if a pedophile doesn't actually have sex with a child, how
> his desire to do so any worse than this "normal" person's desire to
> commit murder?
>
> It's rather ironic, I think, that those who lust to kill don't see
> their own sins while they are oh, so observant of others.
>
> If a person molests a child, then he or she deserves to be put away by
> the law -- but until he or she actually does that, then his sin is no
> less than those who want to kill him or her for his ore her feelings.
>
> So much for the moral high ground.
People like Patriot Games like to think they are morally superior
but they are the ones who purchase a can of paint at Home Depot,
carefully open it at home and use a little and then return it for a refund.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:07:34 -0400:
>> It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>Why respond to me with that?
Why not?
>I'm not a pedophile. I'm neutral observer of human nature.
You're equally worthless.
>So I say "fuck you" and fuck your lack of reading comprehension
>skills.
I comprehended your loving approval of pedophilia.
For that you should eat a bullet.
Patriot Games
>kill me, but if you tried it would be perfectly legal for me to kill you!
Dead people can't perform self-defense.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:19 -0400, Patriot Games
><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>>>Examples:
>>It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>Isn't it interesting that some people WANT TO KILL some people WHO ARE
>SEXUALLY ATTRACTED in ways that they might not approve?
>And yet, if a pedophile doesn't actually have sex with a child, how
>his desire to do so any worse than this "normal" person's desire to
>commit murder?
Because a pedophile will eventually act on his congenital deviance.
Better to remove them from the population before they hurt an innocent
child.
>It's rather ironic, I think, that those who lust to kill don't see
>their own sins while they are oh, so observant of others.
Sorry, there is no sin in exterminating pedophiles.
Murder is a sin.
Self-defense is not murder.
Exterminating pedophiles is the self-defense of those incapable of
defending themselves.
>If a person molests a child, then he or she deserves to be put away by
>the law -- but until he or she actually does that, then his sin is no
>less than those who want to kill him or her for his ore her feelings.
Wrong. See above.
>So much for the moral high ground.
The "moral high ground" is a fantasy, not an actual place. The real
world is an actual place.
In the real world it should be legal to kill pedophiles.
Damaeus
> >I'm not a pedophile. I'm neutral observer of human nature.
>
> You're equally worthless.
The idea that you think you can get inside my mind and know everything
about me from one internet posts says a lot about you as a person.
You're a flaming fucktard.
> >So I say "fuck you" and fuck your lack of reading comprehension
> >skills.
>
> I comprehended your loving approval of pedophilia.
You comprehended nothing but the reflection of your own ignorance
bouncing off the article, back through the vomit-inducing fumes of
ignorance spewing out of your wretched pig face. You saw what you
wanted to see, and you ignored what was really there.
If you have no more intelligence than to see nothing but love of
pedophilia as it's practice today promoted in that article, then you
have no business being incarnated as a human. Do as all a favor and
kill yourself tonight. It won't mess with your spirit, but at least
your corrupted body will be gone from society where it can't do any
more damage.
> For that you should eat a bullet.
For you that should be a dildo wrapped in razor wire and shot straight
up your ass by JPL.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> Dead people can't perform self-defense.
Stupid people point out the obvious. The funny thing is that they
also point it out incorrectly and are too stupid to realize it.
Your own sentence explains your own ignorance. When Cain killed Abel,
Abel was dead and could not immediately defend himself. But Abel
reincarnated seven generations later as Lamech, then found Cain and
killed him, then the enmity between their spirits was balanced. So
you are wrong. Dead people CAN perform self-defense. Your mind is
just to fleshly and worldly to realize that, hence all the retarded
posts you make to this newsgroup (and probably others where you can
find people to hate).
Damaeus
Damaeus
posted on 14 Aug 2008 07:47:05 -0500:
> People like Patriot Games like to think they are morally superior
> but they are the ones who purchase a can of paint at Home Depot,
> carefully open it at home and use a little and then return it for
> a refund.
People like Patriot Games are the people who think, "If everyone in
the world was like me, we'd have world peace.
If everyone in the world was like him, we'd probably all be driving
pickup trucks, we'd all have no sense of fashion or style, we'd be
happy with meat and potatoes all the time.
The sad part about Patriot Games is that he bases his rules of life on
what others have said that sounds good to him, and apparently he likes
the kinds of beliefs that result in other people suffering so he can
sit back and watch, enjoy himself in his smugness, and think, "Imma go
to heaven, and all those people are goin' to hell. HAHAHAHAHA!!!!"
I used to think that heaven was for everyone. I wanted everyone to
go. But sometimes I think there might be people who were meant to be
crazy, like Patriot Games. Imagine what kind of existence he would
have if the entire world transformed into a lawless boy-lovers
paradise with immortal gods and their beautiful bodies running around
sodomizing each other after we're all immortal in heaven on earth. And
on the ground, stomping his feet in the mud is Patriot Games, looking
as crazy as Donald Duck on the rampage. He spends his eternity
standing around telling us how dirty we all are, the only pleasure
being the vibration of his own vocal cords, while all the rest of the
world has forgotten the old laws and now live under new universal laws
from God that says: No Rules! Then we get to enjoy nice, gooey sexy
feelings forever. In that state, uou're all gods, act like it! Look
however you want to look. Penetrate however you want to penetrate.
By the time all this happens, we will have remembered why creation was
started to begin with: So our spirits could have immortal, fleshly
bodies to enjoy and feel good in, not to sit around and deny ourselves
the pleasure that we've suffered for through all these billions of
years.
So one more time, Patriot Games, if you're still too ignorant to
understand the spirit of my post, then if you're a church-goer, stop
going to church, and stop expecting the world to live by your strict
standards of discipline. It certainly won't last forever, and you'll
be a lot happier and use a lot less Preparation H if you'd get off
your high horse, stop judging others, and mind your own fucking
business. You were given enough energy in your spirit to live one
life: YOURS! So live YOUR life, let others live theirs, and this is
known as loving your neighbor as yourself. If you can't love your
neighbor as they are, then you aren't ready to see the kingdom and
you'll be stuck here until you ARE ready. There is absofuckinglutely
no way for someone in your mindset to enter the Kingdom, so chill out,
tape a Tuck's Medicated Pad to your irritated anus, and start looking
at your own life for things to judge.
There's plenty there. The reason people judge others is because
they're too ashamed to have anybody notice anything about themselves
to be judged.
Damaeus
4s00th
<Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:20:30 -0400, 4s00th <4s0...@hushmail.com>
>wrote:
>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:19 -0400, Patriot Games
>><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>>>>Examples:
>>>It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>>Isn't it interesting that some people WANT TO KILL some people WHO ARE
>>SEXUALLY ATTRACTED in ways that they might not approve?
>>And yet, if a pedophile doesn't actually have sex with a child, how
>>his desire to do so any worse than this "normal" person's desire to
>>commit murder?
>
>Because a pedophile will eventually act on his congenital deviance.
No evidence supports this supposition of yours. None. It is only your
bigotry that insists that it must be true. In fact, if my estimates
regarding the prevalence of pedophilia based on what I've observed on
the Internet are true, then a majority of those who have pedophilic
feelings NEVER act on them except in their own fantasies.
>Better to remove them from the population before they hurt an innocent
>child.
Anyone claiming to be a "Patriot" ought to understand the simple
principle that no one can be punished for a crime that is never
committed. Or are you one of those special "Patriots" who think that
fairness under the law only applies to those of whom you approve?
>>It's rather ironic, I think, that those who lust to kill don't see
>>their own sins while they are oh, so observant of others.
>
>Sorry, there is no sin in exterminating pedophiles.
>
>Murder is a sin.
>
>Self-defense is not murder.
>
>Exterminating pedophiles is the self-defense of those incapable of
>defending themselves.
You know, you sound an awful lot like those pedophiles who lie to
themselves by saying that some kid really wants to have sex with them
in order to assuage their guilt over doing something that they know
they should not do. Isn't it ironic that you should be so guilty of
those things which you claim to oppose?
>>If a person molests a child, then he or she deserves to be put away by
>>the law -- but until he or she actually does that, then his sin is no
>>less than those who want to kill him or her for his ore her feelings.
>
>Wrong. See above.
Right. See Above.
>>So much for the moral high ground.
>
>The "moral high ground" is a fantasy, not an actual place. The real
>world is an actual place.
>
>In the real world it should be legal to kill pedophiles.
You possess all the simplistic morals and inability to think of a
bigot. In the real world, such thinking ought to be illegal.
God versus a can of tuna
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsist...@gmail.com wrote:
> >http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
> >Examples:
>
> It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
Rarely are you and I in agreement, Patriot.
If one of these sick people every hurt one of my kids or grandkids,
I'm going to pound them into a bloody pulp. I'm a peaceful guy but
this is one thing I won't tolerate.
wonderer
"Brandon D Cartwright" <us...@example.net> wrote in message
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> business *all* sane decent folk..
that leaves you out
>
> Clearly a category that excludes you..
>
>
>
> --
>
> December 2007
> - There is a delusion that pedophiles are under which
> is insane at the very best.They claim they are "persecuted"
> and "oppressed," the same way blacks, gays, jews and women
> have been maltreated over the centuries.
>
> They would like to ride on the margins of these other
> minorities in order to garner sympathy from those
> minorities, and to use the history of the emmancipation
> of these minorities as precedence for their own freedom
> to have sex with children.
>
>
> They forget one thing: Pedophiles are seen with disdain
> and disgust, not because they are different, but because
> they cause harm to other human beings.
>
> http://wikisposure.com/The_Persecution_Delusion
Damaeus
posted on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:46:21 -0700:
> Preventing pedophiles from sexually assaulting children is the
> business *all* sane decent folk..
Pfft... Sane, decent folk don't destroy their own families just to
send one person to jail, which is what happens when people like you
have pedophiles cross their paths. You're so everloving,
fucking-assed god-damned STUPID that you actually put your own
children through embarrassing court trials (or support other families
doing it to their own children) just so you can watch someone's life
being destroyed.
In translation to something that you might be able to comprehend with
your pathetic little pea brain, this is equivalent to drinking
gasoline, then sticking a welding rod into your stomach and striking
an arc to cook the raw steak you just ate right off a cow's ass.
So if you want to talk about someone who is insane, you go luck in the
goddamned mirror at your sorry ass, and stop replying to my innocent
posts through the use of your obviously corrupted and psychotic mind.
Damaeus
Damaeus
<goof...@gmail.com> posted on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:12:22 -0700 (PDT):
Pfft... You can hardly hurt someone by giving them an orgasm. The
problem is that people like you are full of so much hatred for
something you don't understand that anything that even tries to
explain it you see as all about something evil. If you knew the roots
to pedophilia, you might even learn something about yourself that
turns into one who garners more peace, and not more hate.
My whole post was an attempt to explain the whole issue objectively,
but people like you are too fucking retarded to comprehend plain
english. All you see is "sex" and "children" in the same article, and
your brain becomes so psychotically disorganized that you can't think
straight, hence you're foaming at the mouth over the thought of
somebody touching your kids. It's all you see. You're blinded by
anything that tries to explain it. You're like the angry grizzly bear
who only sees you and her cub. You are going to die. That's is what
you act like as a hater of pedophiles, a snarling bear. But just like
the mother bear, you don't understand that the human means that bear
cub no harm. But the mother bear doesn't understand, just as you
don't understand. Understandable from your perspective, but I'm just
illustrating how limited and short-sighted it is.
My post has NOTHING to do with promoting pedophiles "preying" on kids.
It simply presents a more sensible approach to consensual situations.
Pedophiles who become deranged and run around raping kids should be
shot in the face point blank with twelve rounds of buckshot, and I'll
pull the trigger myself if nobody else will. Why? Because I'm an
intelligent, reasonable human being who sees the issues on both sides
of a sensitive topic. I'm in favor of putting into a blender the
balls of ANY rapist, no matter what the age of their victims. But if
the sex is something that wasn't forced and the kid wanted it, people
should be ASKING QUESTIONS of the KID first, instead of going on a
primitive posse hunt like a bunch of snarling cowboys in the old west.
It looks stupid and it's unbecoming of an enlightened society, so stop
it!
It doesn't mean you can't still choose to be protective of your kids.
It just shows you why others make the choices they make so you can
understand it and be a better person. And the bear analogy above
should help put into perspective how everyone else in the world sees
you on this subject.
You say you're a peaceful guy. Fine. Take some of that peace and
really examine this issue from other angles besides one that says all
pedos must die. I agree that it's actually best if the
intergenerational sex never takes place. But when it does, I don't
think it's necessary to always go to pieces and destroy someone's life
over it. See what the circumstances are, then make rational decisions
based on facts, not snap decisions made on assumptions about what the
kid can and can't handle. You just don't know until you ask them how
THEY feel about everything.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:41:48 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >Pfft... Sane, decent folk don't destroy their own families just to
> >send one person to jail, which is what happens when people like you
> >have pedophiles cross their paths.
>
> Chemical castration coupled with modern psychosurgery has been found
> to achieve successful cures in 95% of cases..
I've never touched a child in my life, even when I was a kid, myself.
Even now, as an adult, when I have to walk past them in the passing
lane at the mall, I put my hands behind my back to make sure nobody
thinks I "accidentally" might touch a kid. I'm not interested in it,
and I don't even want to be thought of as one who is interested in it.
What I *AM* interested in is seeing problems in society and finding
solutions that bring more understanding into people's minds so people
can understand each other more easily instead of just killing anyone
who is different.
> Surgical castration and stereotactic neurosurgery are highly invasive
> procedures that are not condoned, for a variety of ethical reasons.
> However, reviews of such treatment (Bradford 1985, 1988; Heim and
> Hursch 1979) have indicated that surgical interventions are very
> effective. Indeed, a number of long-term outcome studies have
> suggested recidivism below 5% following these procedures (Bradford
> 1985).
Do you realize how much of a sadist you sound like when you write
that? ...especially when you say "highly invasive". The way it
reads, it sounds like you had to squeeze your cock after writing it to
relieve your lust. That kind of lust is evil, too, you know. The
lust for someone's death is as bad as the lust for someone's body,
biblically speaking. If you're lusting after the death of pedophiles,
perhaps you should pull the plank out of your own eye before you flick
the speck out of your brother's.
> Containment for life in a maximum security asylum for the criminally
> insane after receiving these treatments would be a suitable humane
> alternative..IMHO
If you're going to contain them, there's no reason to also cut their
nuts off. By leaving them on, they suffer more because they have to
relieve themselves with each other instead of kids. By neutering
them, you remove any pleasure you and your friends would receive from
watching them sodomize each other on the security cameras and posting
them on X-Tube for others to watch and laugh at. (I'm just giving you
more demented ideas to use on pedophiles in case you run out of things
yourself, since you don't sound very imaginative to me.)
> > You're so everloving, fucking-assed god-damned STUPID that you
> > actually put your own children through embarrassing court trials
> > (or support other families doing it to their own children) just
> > so you can watch someone's life being destroyed.
>
> If you can see through your froth you might notice that pedophiles are
> *not* the victims but victimizers...often leaving trails of wreckage
> behind them that numbers *hundreds* of children..
LOL my froth? It is you who is snarling at pedophiles. I'm sitting
here, calmly and rationally explaining everything, and you literally
cannot see it! It's the court cases and exposure of what could have
been for the kid (in consensual situations) a wonderful experience,
and you, the careless parents pervert it and turn it into something
ugly and nasty, then expect your kid to be grateful for putting his
lover away in jail. You want love from your kids for something like
that? You should be ashamed of yourself because the whole mess
started with an assumption that might not have even been correct! But
since everyone says "LET'S PROTECT THE CHILD!" but then the first
person they ignore is the very one they want to protect. They don't
listen to the kid, they just assume the whole fucking incident was
horrible, and they won't accept it when the kid says he liked it. The
parents then add insult to injury by telling their kid, "Oh you don't
mean that. You're just traumatized after a horrible experience."
See? SEE!?!?!? Do you SEE what imecilic thinking does to destroy the
very child you say you're trying to protect? You fucking RETARD!
You're so psychologically incompetent at parenting you should be in
daycare until you're wearing diapers again!
Just the assumption that being OLDER than your kids gives you more
wisdom and more understanding about how people interact is sooooo GOD
DAMNED presumptuous, ignorant, primitive, and even supersitious, that
just this basis alone for deciding who should make decisions should be
clear grounds for designating someone incapable of judging for him or
herself the philosophical grounding in the laws man has set up. People
like you clearly lack the vision to carry the world into the future,
so your power should be decapitated so the enlightened portion of
society can bring this planet to greatness as your dark ideas fade
into the past.
> >In translation to something that you might be able to comprehend with
> >your pathetic little pea brain, this is equivalent to drinking
> >gasoline, then sticking a welding rod into your stomach and striking
> >an arc to cook the raw steak you just ate right off a cow's ass.
>
> No... justice for pedophile's victims and the prevention of further
> sexual assaults on children is no such thing..
The fact that you see a "victim" in all pedophilic relationships is
proof of your narrow-sighted delusional state. This proves that you
have not thought about this issue from all angles. If you had, your
own brain would bring together logical, and sensible information from
the neural paths in your brain that were formed by having thought
about all the angles. Since you're still stuck on KILL ALL
PEDOPHILES, it proves you are ignorant on the topic and have no
credibility or reputable information to back up your position. You
can't even explain why you say you're right. All you do is call
people names and say "Kill pedophiles," and you expect us to take you
seriously. Well, nobody takes people seriously who can't say
intelligent things.
You are a parrot. You repeat what others have said because you can't
think for yourself. Polly want a cracker?
> >So if you want to talk about someone who is insane, you go luck in the
> >goddamned mirror at your sorry ass, and stop replying to my innocent
> >posts through the use of your obviously corrupted and psychotic mind.
>
> There is nothing innocent about posting to pedophile groups
I didn't post to a pedophile group. In my introduction, you'll see I
posted primarily to news:alt.activism.children. You must have read it
as you were hanging out in a pedophile group looking for people to
hate. See? This, again, illustrates your lack of attention to detail
with all these false accusations. It's further proof that you haven't
the mental capacity to understand pedophilia, and therefore your
opinion is automatically suspect.
> to suggest to the gathered child molesters.(some of whom are
> active) that they are doing nothing wrong but are the victims of
> a society that misunderstands them..
I never said any of that.
> Some of us understand you only too well..
Some might, but your replies to my posts say you don't even know what
you're seeing in the world, much less how to make judgments about it.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:01:21 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >Pfft... You can hardly hurt someone by giving them an orgasm.
>
> the victims beg to differ
Victims are created by the conditions set up by people surrounding an
issue. This is all explained in my first post in this thread, and I'm
not going to explain it again. If you can't understand it, the truth
doesn't change. Go out in the world, get some experience, come back
and reread it. Its meaning will change.
> Victims of these sick desires beg to differ..
>
> http://the-regulators.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=2
>
> We see and hear it all the time from various people either on the
> internet, on news shows, or in conversation. Some of the most ignorant
> statements of our time....
>
> "So he tried to meet a girl that he thought was underage, there was no
> real crime committed, since there was no victim."
That's not a crime. It's just stupid in today's society to do
something like that.
> "They're policing 'thought crimes' nowadays"
I haven't seen evidence of that yet. I say what I want on the
internet, and so far I haven't been arrested. But then, I haven't
threatened anybody, I don't spew hate (and my use of profanity to
describe your mental deficits isn't hate; it's an observation of
truth). I just make observations and report the truth of my
conclusions. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it
wrong. It just means you don't understand it. If you did, you'd have
the capacity to say, "Intergenerational sex isn't wise in today's
society, but I understand why the attraction is there, so we need to
find ways to deal with it that doesn't destroy lives, but instead
preserves everyone's dignity."
But you can't do that. All you know how to say is, "Pedophiles are
monsters." See the difference in the length of the sentences? Mine
is intelligent because I am intelligent. Yours is short and stupid
because you are, well, just stupid. I don't care how tall you are.
> "Child porn is harmless, these guys stay home and look, they're not
> flashing in parks, it's a privacy issue."
Nobody should have their picture taken against their will. It just
ain't nice, whether they have their clothes on or not.
> These idiotic statements are far more frequent than we'd like. In
> fact, we'd never like to see or hear them.
We know. It's evidence of a closed mind. Stupid minds are like that.
Stupid is fun because stupid people like to watch others suffer.
> So, here's a testamonial from one such real life victim, for your
> perusal:
>
> The impact statement of child pornography victim Masha Allen:
>
> "My name is Masha Allen. I am 13 years old. When I was five years old,
> Matthew Mancuso, a millionaire who was a pedophile, adopted me from
> Russia. I was rescued almost three years ago when the FBI raided his
> home in a child pornography sting.
Okay, stop right there. Again, stupid comes back with an example
that's everything I was NOT talking about in my post. You're talking
about one human being taking another human being against her will, all
the way. Whether they're a kid, an adult, grandma or Fluffy, I'm
against that kind of behavior lock, stock and barrel. Your mistake is
in assuming that all these cases were nightmares. Sure, the
non-consensual ones were. But the consensual ones were good until
people like YOU turned them into nightmares for everyone involved.
That's the whole point.
Stupid-assed, arrogant, all-knowing, all-wise, ignorant,psychotic
parents think their kids are stupid and don't know what they're
talking about because the parents themselves can't understand. There's
the disconnect right there staring you in the face. Your own
blindness is exposed by your continued replies of ignorance. Since
you can't understand, then you assume there's no way your child can
understand. But you don't know. You don't know who your kid is on a
spiritual level, or how aware your kid is of his own spirit, or his
eternal nature. Often when kids talk about things from their spirit,
it sounds strange, so parents tell the kids that it's just their
imagination. What kind of respect is that for your kid's real
experiences?
That's an example of the kind of respect you have for your own kids'
feelings and thoughts should they happen to cross paths with a
pedophile. You don't care. You only care about protecting your own
feelings of hate, and you don't care whose lives you destroy to
protect them.
> When I arrived at Matthew's house, I was only five years old and
> didn't know much English. I did know that he didn't have a bedroom for
> me. Or a bed. Instead I slept with him in his bed for almost five
> years until I was 10 years old. During that time Matthew made me have
> sex with him every day.
>
> He made me take showers with him ... Sometimes he chained me in the
> basement and took pictures of me with dildos or dressed in a wedding
> gown. He would pretend to marry me and then make me have sex with him.
> There was oral sex, anal sex, dildos and sex toys. He did and made me
> do terrifying things when I was just 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 years old.
I don't condone this type of behavior here. Besides, when abuse
victims start getting a lot of attention for their story, it gets
magnified and embellished with language that is more psychologically
effective at swaying the feelings of readers to one cause or another.
I'm not moved by this story because I cannot be sure of its real
truthfulness. However, the basic premise of my belief remains for all
beings. I'm totally against the violation of anybody's free will. I
believe in protecting that above everything else.
I'm also against intergenerational sex as it's practiced on Earth,
simply for the betterment of all involved. All I'm saying is that
when two people become involved and unwise choices are made, it's
better to fix the problem with understanding than punishment. It's
known as forgiveness after everything is out in the open and
understood. But people like you don't want to understand. You don't
want to hear it. You just want to spill blood like the ancient Aztecs
portrayed in Mel Gibson's Apocalypto film.
> I still don't really understand why this happened to me or why so many
> people want to see these terrible things. I know that these pictures
> will never end and that my "virtual abuse" will go on forever. Usually
> when someone is raped and abused, the criminal goes to prison and the
> abuse ends. But since Matthew put these pictures on the Internet, my
> abuse is still going on.
This was scripted. I don't believe a real abuse victim wrote this
bullshit story. I'm not saying this kind of thing doesn't happen, but
this one is just too damned convenient.
> Anyone can see them. People ask for them and are still downloading
> them. Day after day. People want to see me being abused. I want every
> single person who downloads my picture to go to jail and really be
> punished as much as possible. They are as evil as Matthew. They want
> to see me suffer. They want to see me starved and hurt and sad and
> abused.
The human spirit has more ability to recover from negative treatment
than this. *IF* a real abuse victim wrote this, she's showboating for
sympathy. She likes the attention.
> Child pornography is not a victimless crime. I am a victim and I still
> suffer everyday and every time someone sees me being abused. I ask
> that you think about me and everything I have gone through when you
> sentence this person to prison. Think about the abuse I have endured
> and give this person a long, long time to think about the evil he did
> by taking pleasure in my pain."
>
> ...Still think there are "victimless crimes?"
Just like an actor is only an actor while he's acting, a victim is
only a victim while she's being victimized. The ordeal is over. She
can stop reliving the nightmare now.
> 2. 90% of all sexual assaults against children are committed by
> someone whom the victim knew.
This right here is evidence that at LEAST the person was someone the
kid already knew and trusted in other ways. Sure, it's better if it
doesn't happen at all, but if it does, go to pieces by yourself before
the kids are around, then think about everything, then talk to the kid
first to find out what they feel about it instead of exploding in a
rage and threatening to send that friend to jail or to his death.
> 5. 1 of 5 children has been propositioned for sex over the
> Internet.
That I can believe. I got propositioned when I was a kid online.
> 7. 90% of sexual assaults are committed against someone the
> perpetrator knows.
Oh, god. This is the same thing as number 2. Who wrote these rules
and why are they so stoopid to have written one rule twice?
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:46:47 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >I've never touched a child in my life, even when I was a kid, myself.
> >Even now, as an adult, when I have to walk past them in the passing
> >lane at the mall, I put my hands behind my back to make sure nobody
> >thinks I "accidentally" might touch a kid. I'm not interested in it,
> >and I don't even want to be thought of as one who is interested in it.
> >What I *AM* interested in is seeing problems in society and finding
> >solutions that bring more understanding into people's minds so people
> >can understand each other more easily instead of just killing anyone
> >who is different.
>
> An odd thing for *you* to say isn't it?
The last part? What's wrong with that? I see a way to deal with
pedophilia that doesn't destroy anyone's life, and you aren't happy
with that. You'd rather see everyone's life fall apart just so one
man can go to prison.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Damaeus <no-m...@hotmail.invalid>
> Message-ID: <tu2064pal7htbpaft...@4ax.com>
>
> In news:sci.physics, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net> posted on Thu, 19 Jun
> 2008 09:52:46 -0700 (PDT):
>
> > Important questions to be answered by the interested student:
> >
> > 1. Did Hitler kill and sterilize "defective" human beings to "improve"
> > the "super-race" he was trying to breed?
>
> That's what he thought he was doing, but he didn't have all the facts,
> so his actions were errors in the broader picture. Hitler really did
> believe he was doing the right thing, so he can't be faulted for
> trying.
I stand beside it. As a believer in God, I know of ways that the
consciousness of a soul can be removed from an experience before it
begins so as to avoid an unecessary suffering. This is the kind of
thing you would learn if you'd spend more time looking at your own
life for things to judge instead of lashing out at people who have
done nothing at all to you directly.
> >> Surgical castration and stereotactic neurosurgery are highly invasive
> >> procedures that are not condoned, for a variety of ethical reasons.
> >> However, reviews of such treatment (Bradford 1985, 1988; Heim and
> >> Hursch 1979) have indicated that surgical interventions are very
> >> effective. Indeed, a number of long-term outcome studies have
> >> suggested recidivism below 5% following these procedures (Bradford
> >> 1985).
> >
> >Do you realize how much of a sadist you sound like when you write
> >that? ...especially when you say "highly invasive".
>
> I said no such thing..
>
> Are you incapable of recognizing a quotation?
It doesn't matter, hair splitter. The fact is, you quoted someone
else since you're too stupid to come up with anything original. You
obviously agree with it, so if you can't come back with support for
"highly invasive" instead of suddenly getting defensive and turning
into a hairless pussy, why don't you reply like a man and give us some
extra-graphic descriptions of what you mean by "highly invasive". I'd
really like to learn what kind of lunatic you are deep down.
> The way it reads, it sounds like you had to squeeze your cock
> after writing it to relieve your lust.
>
> Project much do you?
No, I'm just adept at recognizing closet perverts when I see them. You
like to look at young flesh, but since you can refrain from touching,
you consider yourself somehow superior to pedophiles who have given in
to their lust. You come into newsgroups like this one and show off as
a pedophile hater to satisfy your guilt at having looked at some
little boy's curvy legs last Sunday. And that's just assuming the
best of you. For all I know, you've got some kid under your desk
right now giving you head.
> > That kind of lust is evil, too, you know. The lust for someone's
> > death is as bad as the lust for someone's body, biblically
> > speaking. If you're lusting after the death of pedophiles,
> > perhaps you should pull the plank out of your own eye before you
> > flick the speck out of your brother's.
>
> As you took the trouble to edit it out you are perfectly aware I am
> against the death penalty for pedophiles...but don't let that get in
> the way of your ad hominem distractions and pop theology..
Pop theology. I've never investigated that until you mentioned it
here. It sounds like those people have an idea of what humans are
really all about and they're attempting to explore those areas to find
out more. It sounds fun, pioneereing and adventurous to explore the
limits of what it means to be human. What you do sounds like the
Inquisition.
> >> Containment for life in a maximum security asylum for the criminally
> >> insane after receiving these treatments would be a suitable humane
> >> alternative..IMHO
> >
> >If you're going to contain them, there's no reason to also cut their
> >nuts off.
>
> Chemical castration has been tried with varying degrees of success..
Same difference, hair-splitter. The end results is the name. If you
were intelligent like me, you would know that you can cut someones
nuts off from delivering sperm in the same way that you cut someone
off from their crack dealer. Chemical castration cuts off the supply
of sperm as effectively as a hack saw. But you were too stupid to
understand that, so you replied and have now shown your stupidity once
more. Keep going. I'm not having to put much effort at all into this
debate. You're defeating yourself with your own replies.
> > By leaving them on, they suffer more because they have to relieve
> > themselves with each other instead of kids.
>
> You are incorrect..
>
> Sterotaxis removes the sexual drive...
You're not very creative at making people suffer, are you? What you
want to do is the same as forbidding someone to go to the restroom
forever, but also making it so they never have to pee. By leaving
their nuts on, they have to endure getting horny, but they can't get
off on what they want most: children. So if you remove their sex
drive, it cuts their suffering in half because their desire for kids
will be gone. With that, you might as well just let them loose in
society since you won't be able to have any fun watching them suffer
in jail as they get hard and can't find anything worth screwing.
See? But once again, you're too stupid to even come up with a decent
punishment for those you hate. But that's a good thing. It means
that stupid people who make stupid laws are too stupid to do any
damage to the fabric of the universe.
> > By neutering them, you remove any pleasure you and your friends
> > would receive from watching them sodomize each other on the
> > security cameras and posting them on X-Tube for others to watch
> > and laugh at.
>
> Why should the bestial antics of pedophiles be amusing except to sick
> minds like yours?
I don't want to watch them suffer, you do. You're the one who thinks
punishment is the answer to pedophiles. I just figured there had to
be some reason for your getting off on seeing people's lives and
families destroyed. I assumed you must shoot videos and post them on
X-Tube for laughs or something. I dunno, you tell me why you like
punishment so much.
> > (I'm just giving you more demented ideas to use on pedophiles in
> > case you run out of things yourself, since you don't sound very
> > imaginative to me.)
>
> No...you are projecting again..
No, I'm interpreting.
> >LOL my froth? It is you who is snarling at pedophiles.
>
> I am?
>
> Hardly..
Seems like it. You seem to condone chemical castration. If that's
not a result of snarling rage, I don't know what is.
> > I'm sitting here, calmly and rationally explaining everything,
> > and you literally cannot see it! It's the court cases and
> > exposure of what could have been for the kid (in consensual
> > situations) a wonderful experience, and you, the careless parents
> > pervert it and turn it into something ugly and nasty, then expect
> > your kid to be grateful for putting his lover away in jail.
>
> Children don't have adult "lovers"..only sex predators that abuse
> them..
Not being a child yourself anymore, how do you fucking know? When I
was seven years old, I had a fantasy about being picked up and
molested, only after what I needed hadn't already been done to me:
someone to show me how to feel good. Then my mind resorted to
molestation fantasies by the time I was seven. If that's not a cry
for sex, I don't know what is. But I know that if the opportunity had
arisen, I would have jumped all over it, and I would have been upset
if my mom found out and made me stop if I liked what was happening.
The only thing I wouldn't have been able to understand is why she made
us stop when nobody got hurt. So either you had no penis as a kid, or
somebody touched your no-no spot in a way you didn't like, so you
think nobody else likes it, either. Well, if it had happened to me,
and if it didn't hurt, I would have liked it. If you can't admit that
about yourself when you were a boy, then you're an alien, and your
opinions do not count here. Go away.
> > You want love from your kids for something like
> >that? You should be ashamed of yourself because the whole mess
> >started with an assumption that might not have even been correct! But
> >since everyone says "LET'S PROTECT THE CHILD!"
>
> Well...not quite everyone..
>
> You..for example..are saying to hell with the children let's protect
> the pedophiles..
The twisted fuckmindedness of that statement astounds me. Let me
explain something to you VERY CLEARLY.
When you take a child and you put him on a witness stand in front of
the public and make him talk IN DETAIL about his sexual experiences
with another person, how in the FUCK is that protecting the child? If
his experience was something he consented to and nobody was hurt, then
you are hurting him more than anyone by dragging a harmless incident
out into the public and ruining your own son's life in the process.
His self-esteem will fall, his grades will fall, he'll lose friends,
and have trouble making new ones, all because you refuse to think that
your "innocent" child could ever want to feel good "downstairs". Well,
if you like it, what the fuck makes you think your own kid won't?
That's why 6-year-olds can't keep their hands off their crotches.
Walking through shopping malls across america are hundreds of
thousands of six-year-old boys whos hands jump to their crotches every
five to ten seconds for a tug and a squeeze. And why? It's not very
interesting at all unless you get good feelings from it. I'm willing
to accept the truth of that.
But once again, I have to say it over and over or you ignorantly
ASS-U-ME I think every pedophile should walk around with a kid on
their cock like fucking finger puppets. I don't think
intergenerational sex should happen in this world based on the way
things are now. But WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN, I don't think every case
should be treated as a rape. It's not necessary...DAMMIT! It
destroyes the lives of EVERYONE, and the kid most of all. You're just
too blinded by hate to see it. In the case of rape, the kid's life
has already been destroyed, so go for all out fucking war on that
dirty pervert child molester. But the ones that are consensual and
nobody got hurt, treat those cases differently. That's all anybody is
asking for. Holy Shit! It's amazing that in this day and age, a
conversation like this has to go on for this damned long. Do you have
ANY kind of perceptual ability outside of hating ALL pedophiles?
> > but then the first
> >person they ignore is the very one they want to protect. They don't
> >listen to the kid, they just assume the whole fucking incident was
> >horrible, and they won't accept it when the kid says he liked it. The
> >parents then add insult to injury by telling their kid, "Oh you don't
> >mean that. You're just traumatized after a horrible experience."
>
> It really doesn't matter whether the pedophile's victim experienced
> pleasure..
Of course not. It only matters what you feel and think because you're
a selfish asshole and you don't care if the kid liked it or didn't
like it. You're going to use the kid as a weapon to destroy the
pedophile, and in doing so destroy the kid. You've just admitted it
very plainly. This isn't about the kid or his feelings at all. This
is just about you seeing someone you can't stand go down in sizzling
lacerations of black lightning.
> Kinsey employed pedophiles to masturbate infants and toddlers for
> hours on end..that they induced numerous spasms makes them no less sex
> criminals in need of treatment..
So you're saying masturbation of infants and toddlers in scientific
experiements should be a punishable offense. Well, that explains a
lot more about you right there, too. Not only are you ignorant,
you're also against research if it involves methods you disagree with.
> Most folk would wish them executed..
>
> That is perfectly normal..
That's an expected reaction for rape, but not consensual acts.
> >See? SEE!?!?!? Do you SEE what imecilic thinking does to destroy the
> >very child you say you're trying to protect? You fucking RETARD!
> >You're so psychologically incompetent at parenting you should be in
> >daycare until you're wearing diapers again!
>
> More froth..
Which looks a lot like sperm. You perv. You can't stop imagining me
with a ring of jizz around my lips or something?
> >Just the assumption that being OLDER than your kids gives you more
> >wisdom and more understanding about how people interact is sooooo GOD
> >DAMNED presumptuous, ignorant, primitive, and even supersitious, that
> >just this basis alone for deciding who should make decisions should be
> >clear grounds for designating someone incapable of judging for him or
> >herself the philosophical grounding in the laws man has set up. People
> >like you clearly lack the vision to carry the world into the future,
> >so your power should be decapitated so the enlightened portion of
> >society can bring this planet to greatness as your dark ideas fade
> >into the past.
>
> No such assumptions are involved...
And then we see an assumption right after that obvious inability to
even recognize your own assumptions:
> Children are incapable of consenting to sex with a pedophile..
You fucking parrot! Polly want a cracker? Polly want a cracker?
Again, you can't think for yourself. You want to parrot what some
hair-brained psychologist has said so you can sound like you've got
your finger on the pulse of psychological trends. Well, listen buddy.
I ain't impressed with script kiddies like you. Go fuck yourself.
That very line, not only is an assumption, but it's an assumption made
by someone else. You didn't even have the intelligence to find
something to believe that had some kind of unbiased background of
research behind it. You just found something that sounded like a good
motto for you and your family, and you picked it up like you'd pick up
a jar of Cheez Whiz at the grocery store, not even bothering to check
the ingredients first to make sure it's not bad for you. Retard. You
deserve to suffer spiritually for acting like this, and you are. You
just don't know it.
> No amount of pop theology or pseudo-philosophical rhetoric alters the
> fact that you are an apologist for sex criminals..
Your application of the word "criminal" is an attempt to make me look
like I want to release dangerous people into society. You're wrong,
and that was a nasty, though knowing your lack of intelligence,
probably an unintentional blunder on your part. I can't imagine you'd
be smooth enough in your debating skills to slip anything past me like
that, and you didn't. Hehe. dumbass.
I'm also not apologizing for anyone. I'm simply explaining the
situation as I see it, which I'm not going to do again in this post.
> >The fact that you see a "victim" in all pedophilic relationships is
> >proof of your narrow-sighted delusional state.
>
> What do you imagine your editing out one such victim's impact
> statement proves?
Impact statement? If I chose not to respond to something, it's
because I saw it as an insignificant point that had either been
covered elsewhere, or nothing immediately came to mind that I felt
like saying about it. If you want me to address it, quote it, and I
will.
> > This proves that you have not thought about this issue from all
> > angles. If you had, your own brain would bring together logical,
> > and sensible information from the neural paths in your brain that
> > were formed by having thought about all the angles.
>
> Got the cart before the horse haven't you?'
To build a strong imagination (something you have not done) you have
to imagine bizarre things to unlock mental secrets that give you the
ability to see solutions to problems that others are blinded to.
> I guess epistemology isn't your strong point huh?
Epistemology is my nature. There is no limit to the knowledge that's
available. The quantum entanglement connects the brain and mind
functions with the quantum field. Everyone's thoughts are connected
to the quantum field. Knowing this, you don't need books or magazines
anymore. If the knowledge has already been uncovered, it comes to you
instantly. If it hasn't been figured out, you can feel your brain
building new neural pathways as it assimilates the new information
into what it already knows.
> > Since you're still stuck on KILL ALL PEDOPHILES, it proves you
> > are ignorant on the topic and have no credibility or reputable
> > information to back up your position.
>
> Says the post editing k00k who has clipped reams of data and who knows
> full well I have never suggested killing all pedophiles..,
It doesn't matter if you kill them or not. You want to treat them all
as if they're rapists, which is the same thing as stopping their
behavior altogether. Again, I'm not even against being against
pedophilia. I'm just against turning every case of it into a
nightmare, especially for the kid.
> > You are a parrot. You repeat what others have said because you
> > can't think for yourself. Polly want a cracker?
>
> Sorry you object to hearing the words of the victims of your poor
> buddies..
>
> This isn't an academic debate..it's a question of a moral absolutes..
By whose standards are morals made absolute? Who's standards should
we live by? Mother Theresa? Jerry Springer? Tom Cruise? In short,
who in this world are you going to trust more than yourself to make
your moral decisions for you. Understand that if we all have to live
by one moral standard, that standard might not be yours. There's only
a one in 7 billion chance that it will be.
> >> >So if you want to talk about someone who is insane, you go luck in the
> >> >goddamned mirror at your sorry ass, and stop replying to my innocent
> >> >posts through the use of your obviously corrupted and psychotic mind.
> >>
> >> There is nothing innocent about posting to pedophile groups
> >
> >I didn't post to a pedophile group.
>
> Sure you did...and still are..
I posted to alt.activism.children. A pedophile group was in the
crosspost list, and I left it there.
> > In my introduction, you'll see I posted primarily to
> > news:alt.activism.children. You must have read it as you were
> > hanging out in a pedophile group looking for people to hate.
> > See? This, again, illustrates your lack of attention to detail
> > with all these false accusations.
>
> False accusation?
> Just what do you imagine alt.support.boy-lovers *IS*?
I am not reading, nor do I subscribe to that newsgroup. Again, I read
in alt.activism.children. The fact that alt.support.boy-lovers is in
the crosspost list has nothing to do with me. I just don't believe in
removing a newsgroup from the crosspost list because the original
poster wanted to spread the conversation around.
> > It's further proof that you haven't the mental capacity to
> > understand pedophilia, and therefore your opinion is
> > automatically suspect.
>
> That you post to a pedophile group denying you are posting to it makes
> you a k00k..
That you haven't the intelligence to understand how usenet or NNTP
servers work is evidence of your further stupidity. That's actually
quite surprising, considering that you use Forte Agent, a program
whose user base usually knows how usenet operates. Maybe you're a new
user of Agent? I've been using it since 1995, myself, when it first
came out. :-) I still love it! Agent 5.0 will be out soon after the
public beta is over.
> >> to suggest to the gathered child molesters.(some of whom are
> >> active) that they are doing nothing wrong but are the victims of
> >> a society that misunderstands them..
> >
> >I never said any of that.
>
> Sure you have..
>
> And fore someone babbling about parrots it's odd you have just
> churned out a whole bunch of stale pedophile propaganda that's
> :)
I don't know if it's propaganda or not. I just write what I feel, and
I don't care if anybody likes it or not.
> >> Some of us understand you only too well..
> >
> >Some might, but your replies to my posts say you don't even know what
> >you're seeing in the world, much less how to make judgments about it.
>
> That all you've got?
No, I've got plenty more.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> Masha..the victim whose experience you try to deny..it's a thirteen
> year olds girl's attempt to shame creeps like you into seeing the
> horror..
LOL nice try to make me out to be the bad guy with more stupid
assumptions.
> In spite of having appeared on national TV and before a Congressional
> Committee
(Assuming I actually saw those...)
> you choose to claim she doesn't exist and her experiences are
> invalid..
>
> One can only speculate at your motivations..
As science says, speculation is fun, but without facts...
The fact is, I had never heard of Masha until you brought it up. Sure,
things like that happen. But you're bringing into this discussion a
kind of case I was never addressing to begin with. I was talking
about consensual sex. You're talking about rape, torture,
confinement. This shit is stuff I don't approve of, and shame on you
for trying to make everyone think that I do. The person who did that
to Masha should be shot.
As for Masha's story, it sounds embellished to make it sound worse
than it really was. I'm not saying it wasn't bad for her, but I think
over time, she's added more adjectives to increase the amount of
sympathy she's getting. Emotions and feelings are addictive, and if
she's addicted to feeling sympathized over, she'll do what she can to
continue to spread her story and get more sympathy. She feels like
she deserves it for the hell she went through, and maybe she does. I'm
sure she still wants to protect others, but the celebrity status that
comes along with is addictive.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:23:54 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >The last part? What's wrong with that? I see a way to deal with
> >pedophilia that doesn't destroy anyone's life, and you aren't happy
> >with that.
>
> What's wrong with that is in your crazy Satanist k00k world nobody
> dies do they?
>
> "Because Hitler killed no one. Hitler was incapable of killing
> anyone. Yes,he ended the physical lives of many people, but the souls
> of those people live on, I believe."
>
> ring any bells?
Yeah, so? I'm not saying I like it. But it happened. I'm not going
to sit here and waste my time chastising something. That will do no
good.
> >I stand beside it. As a believer in God, I know of ways that the
> >consciousness of a soul can be removed from an experience before it
> >begins so as to avoid an unecessary suffering.
>
> But you say you hate God and look forward to going to Hell...
Yeah, I believe God when he tells me I'm going to Hell. I also
believe in teaching his ways before I go there.
> Sorcery...witchcraft and Satanism are what you admire and
> worship...right?
Yeah, why not? They're just tools. No different from reverse
psychology, intimidation, threats. I just use wizardry and satanic
principles. They're more subtle and not so in-your-face. It doesn't
make me bad. I'm actually quite a nice guy.
> >> Are you incapable of recognizing a quotation?
> >
> >It doesn't matter, hair splitter. The fact is, you quoted someone
> >else since you're too stupid to come up with anything original. You
> >obviously agree with it, so if you can't come back with support for
> >"highly invasive" instead of suddenly getting defensive and turning
> >into a hairless pussy, why don't you reply like a man and give us some
> >extra-graphic descriptions of what you mean by "highly invasive". I'd
> >really like to learn what kind of lunatic you are deep down.
>
> The point you miss k00k is that sadly it's considered unethical...
"sadly considered unethical." Is the key word here sadly? Like
you're sad that it's unethical to use the method?
> >No, I'm just adept at recognizing closet perverts when I see them. You
> >like to look at young flesh, but since you can refrain from touching,
> >you consider yourself somehow superior to pedophiles who have given in
> >to their lust. You come into newsgroups like this one and show off as
> >a pedophile hater to satisfy your guilt at having looked at some
> >little boy's curvy legs last Sunday. And that's just assuming the
> >best of you. For all I know, you've got some kid under your desk
> >right now giving you head.
>
> Talking of closet perverts...
>
> Why not tell us more about your desire to eat human flesh?
<snickers> You're just leaving out important information just to make
me look bad. I understand the roots of cannibalism and how psychotic
people on Earth become confused and think that humans are good food.
They're not. They're nasty, full of puss and I wouldn't eat a human
if every steak house in America went out of business. It's all I can
do to get a hamburger down.
When I talk about eating human flesh, I talk about ***IMMORTAL***
flesh that is NOT nasty or diseased. It's done in a way that's so
sensuously pleasureful that your mind seems unable to conceive of such
a god-like existence. I've got more sense than to run around hacking
up people and eating them. Your insidious attempts to slander me are
not amusing and I demand that you stop! You'r absolutely retarded to
a degree I haven't witnessed in ages, and nothing you say can be
trusted. You're so deranged that half the time I don't even think you
realize what you're posting.
> And your dreams of strangers drilling out the back of your throat..
So now you're judging my dreams? Jeez, talk about not having any
freedom at all. Well, I'm sorry. I can't control my dreams. One
time I did have a dream that I sucked on a boy's butthole, but I woke
up wondering why I dreamt it. I certainly didn't go to bed hoping to
have that dream. It just happened. I certainly can't help it, but
I'm sure with your mind, you probably think a dream like that makes me
a pervert, and I should be put in jail even though the whole thing
happened while I was asleep and had no control over any of it.
My dream life is woefully devoid of any kind of sex, and also devoid
of boys, for that matter. Lately I don't remember most of my dreams
at all. I think it's because I'm more into daytime conscious
dreaming. It's when you set a series of thoughts in motion, then, as
if you've cranked up an old record player, you let the thoughts
snowball into a real, visual dream you can have while you're wide
awake. It allows you to interpret the dream symbology as it's
happening instead of having to go back and figure it out later.
> >Pop theology. I've never investigated that until you mentioned it
> >here.
>
> But but..you have been spamming other forums with your psychotic
> pop theology for years under various nyms have you not?
I don't use nyms. And I don't spout others' theology. I spout what I
believe.
> You are immortal ..remember?
Yeah, I remember. I'm working on pulling all that together at the
moment. Working on becoming immortal involves all kinds of universal
insight that gives you solutions to problems that people such as
yourself can't see yet. But not to worry. I'm just trying to make
you feel weak and insignificant, though, to scare you a little about
what my capabilities are. The cool thing is that neither do I!
Nobody's ever pissed me off before.
> > It sounds like those people have an idea of what humans are
> >really all about and they're attempting to explore those areas to find
> >out more. It sounds fun, pioneereing and adventurous to explore the
> >limits of what it means to be human.
>
> What would you know about that..you are not human but an
> immortal...forgotten so soon?
I can't forget that. /sigh
> Humans are not all about abusing children sadly for you..
I'm not sad about that. I don't think people should abuse kids. I
just have nothing against one fully-realized god doing anything he
wants to another fully-realized god who happens to look like a boy.
Both are eternal, both can do as they please. On Earth, it's
different. These bodies are squishy and you can't be as rough with
them, so on Earth, leave the kidz alone. But if CONSENSUAL
intergenerational sex does happen, people should ask questions first
instead of making a bunch of assumptions.
> Amazing that you are surprised that parents are nervous when you
> deliver them pizzas...
It's not me. I'm not going to hurt anyone. It's the parental
paranoia that's the mental illness. It's not healthy for the parent
or the child. Parental paranoia about pedophilia also hurts kids
because they stay bottled up in the house where they only thing they
can do is play violent video games. Is that what you want?
> If they read your posts they would kick your sorry ass back out on the
> street in a heartbeat..
If they're like you, they would.
> > What you do sounds like the Inquisition.
>
> To an unrepentant pedophile I guess it does..
I don't need to repent because I haven't done anything wrong.
> >Same difference, hair-splitter. The end results is the name. If you
> >were intelligent like me, you would know that you can cut someones
> >nuts off from delivering sperm in the same way that you cut someone
> >off from their crack dealer. Chemical castration cuts off the supply
> >of sperm as effectively as a hack saw. But you were too stupid to
> >understand that, so you replied and have now shown your stupidity once
> >more. Keep going. I'm not having to put much effort at all into this
> >debate. You're defeating yourself with your own replies.
>
> delivering sperm isn't the point..abusing children is..
The whole point of stopping sperm and testosterone production was to
prevent the abuse of children. That was your fucking idea, so don't
accuse me of going off-topic when all I was doing was replying to your
stupid comments.
> >To build a strong imagination (something you have not done) you have
> >to imagine bizarre things to unlock mental secrets that give you the
> >ability to see solutions to problems that others are blinded to.
>
> Yeah...I guess your secret conversations with Adolf Hitler help
> enormously..right?
Oh my fucking god, you fool! Hitler died fucking years ago! How in
the living hell could I talk to him? You're officially deranged. I
don't even know why I'm wasting my time talking to you.
> I mean surely he doesn't just tell you it's OK to be gay?
First of all, if Hitler was still alive, which he isn't, nor is Elvis
(sorry to burst your bubble like that), I wouldn't care who he was. I
wouldn't take orders from him.
> Oh I know Gertrude...
>
> Do you think that people you see in dreams still exist in some way?
> I've seen Hitler in my dreams. He actually was fairly nice as long as
> you're truthful with him. Once he asked me a question -- he asked me
> if I was gay.Well, I hesitated and as I thought about lying, I saw him
> become somewhat disturbed.
>
> In my dream, honesty was the theme and I knew that if I'd just
> unabashedly told him I was gay, he would have been fine with it.
> Perhaps this is indicative of the idea that Hitler is still alive, but
> has changed his ways after seeing things from a different perspective.
LOL, I remember posting that dream somewhere, but I can't remember
where or when. I know there's a Hamster newsgroup in which I jokingly
use a Gertrude Huffnaagel name, but that was because the moderator
demanded that I use a real name. When I picked that name, he then
asked why I wasn't posting in the dutch version of the newsgroup, and
I said it's because I only speak English. I would think he could tell
I'm a man, though. Heh.
Anyway, I'm actually glad you posted that dream. It helped me
remember a few things about it. But yeah, even now I still see it as
a dream about honesty. It means that no matter how mean and nasty the
person you're up against seems to be, always be honest with them. Your
posting of that quote to this newsgroup tonight for me to reply to is
my proclamation that I always post the truth as I see it in all my
internet posts. I'll be glad to re-explain things and answer
questions of people. I love doing it. But repeating the same things
and accusing me of long lists of things I never did and never claimed
to support doesn't give me much reason to continue discussing
anything. If all I'm going to get back is attacks and insults when
trying to explain how these things work, I'm dealing with an
irrational person who isn't able to hold their attention on an idea
long enough to see how it's true. So eventually I go away.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> He is quite mad..
LOL is? Was, maybe. That was 1997. This is 2008. The kingdom is
THROUGH psychosis, where your mind fears to tread.
> I remember my stay in a state mental hospital in the latter quarter of
> 1997. I trusted the doctors there, thinking that some of the other
> patients were native Humans who could have been picking up on cosmic
> telepathic transmissions, but did not have the ability to assimilate
> the information logically, and therefore they were having powerful
> delusions and accurately labeled "mentally ill" by earthly standards
> I believed that the starseeds, on the other hand, who were actually
> meant to receive and understand the transmissions, would be
> transferred to a different location for further questioning by the
> psychiatrists.
There's nothing wrong with having this kind of imaginative construct
in your mind as long as it doesn't remain true. This is how the brain
works out what is real and rationally believable in society and what
is not. If you only knew how backwards the world really was from what
it means to be human....
> So I answered their questions, even though they had not directly
> indicated that their plan was parallel to my assumptions, nor had I
> indicated that I "knew what was up". I always answered calmly, but as
> a 27-year-old who had never really found a purpose in life, I couldn't
> help showing a certain degree of inner excitement because it was all
> new, refreshing and just right for me. When one finds a true purpose
> in life, one will go through anything to pursue that purpose to its
> physical manifestation. That was the mindset I was in.
Nothing wrong with that, either. My purpose is still figuring out how
to make this body immortal, and then teach others to do the same: even
you. That's because when you become immortal, you'll see what I mean
and understand.
> Through the course of questioning by the doctors, my assumptions were
> essentially trashed, and I was declared mentally ill and given
> medication which, by the way, tended to make my thoughts so fuzzy that
> I couldn't even properly organize or make sense of them. I felt much
> worse on the medication than off because it was like being in a dream,
> able to sense and perceive, but unable to understand or conceptualize.
The fact that I had the cognitioin to recognize this is good. Thanks
for posting messages that support me.
> The more I thought about it, the more I realized that the mental
> health community is calling serious starseeds "delusional". Why? Do
> they know about starseeds and if they do, are they working with the
> government to silence the clarion call of the starseeds who are here
> to build the segue between the world as it is now and the world as it
> could be?
I no longer believe in a concept known as starseeds. That was eleven
years ago and the very beginning of my own awakening process. There
were bound to be some confusing ideas that needed to be sorted out.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:36:10 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >In news:alt.activism.children, Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net>
> >posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:57:04 -0700:
> >
> >> Masha..the victim whose experience you try to deny..it's a thirteen
> >> year olds girl's attempt to shame creeps like you into seeing the
> >> horror..
> >
> >LOL nice try to make me out to be the bad guy with more stupid
> >assumptions.
>
> Clearly you are oblivious..
Back atcha, and I know for a fact I'm right, and I know for a fact
that you're ignorant because I see more than you do.
> >> In spite of having appeared on national TV and before a Congressional
> >> Committee
> >
> >(Assuming I actually saw those...)
>
> Read again for comprehension rather than scanning for ways to try to
> seem intelligent..
I'm not looking for ways to seem intelligent. All I have to do is
write to spew truth and intelligence. It's just that stupid people
such as yourself don't understand enlightenment when it's staring you
in the face, so you call the person things like oblivious, pedophile,
apologist. You truly are ignorant.
> >> you choose to claim she doesn't exist and her experiences are
> >> invalid..
> >>
> >> One can only speculate at your motivations..
> >
> >As science says, speculation is fun, but without facts...
>
> Oh your posting history leaves little room for doubt Nathan..
LOL, That's not even my name.
> > The fact is, I had never heard of Masha until you brought it up.
> > Sure, things like that happen. But you're bringing into this
> > discussion a kind of case I was never addressing to begin with.
> > I was talking about consensual sex. You're talking about rape,
> > torture, confinement. This shit is stuff I don't approve of, and
> > shame on you for trying to make everyone think that I do. The
> > person who did that to Masha should be shot.
>
> >As for Masha's story, it sounds embellished to make it sound worse
> >than it really was.
>
> It was her impact statement
The very connotation of "impact statement" makes it sound like
something especially prepared to affect the emotions of those who read
it. Nothing wrong with that when you have an enlightened jury, but
one full of folks such as yourself...it would be sad.
> > I'm not saying it wasn't bad for her, but I think
> >over time, she's added more adjectives to increase the amount of
> >sympathy she's getting. Emotions and feelings are addictive, and if
> >she's addicted to feeling sympathized over, she'll do what she can to
> >continue to spread her story and get more sympathy. She feels like
> >she deserves it for the hell she went through, and maybe she does. I'm
> >sure she still wants to protect others, but the celebrity status that
> >comes along with is addictive.
>
> Went right over your head didn't it?
LOL No. Nothing goes over my head. I can explain pedophilia to you,
if you'd like: the roots of it, and why it exists. Do you want me to?
Damaeus
ThePsyko
heard Brandon D Cartwright cry out in
news:k13ba49ub23dfenc6...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:36:10 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>In news:alt.activism.children, Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net>
>>posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:57:04 -0700:
>>
>>> Masha..the victim whose experience you try to deny..it's a thirteen
>>> year olds girl's attempt to shame creeps like you into seeing the
>>> horror..
>>
>>LOL nice try to make me out to be the bad guy with more stupid
>>assumptions.
>
> Clearly you are oblivious..
>
>
>
>>
>>> In spite of having appeared on national TV and before a Congressional
>>> Committee
>>
>>(Assuming I actually saw those...)
>
> Read again for comprehension rather than scanning for ways to try to
> seem intelligent..
>
>>> you choose to claim she doesn't exist and her experiences are
>>> invalid..
>>>
>>> One can only speculate at your motivations..
>>
>>As science says, speculation is fun, but without facts...
>
> Oh your posting history leaves little room for doubt Nathan..
>
>
>>The fact is, I had never heard of Masha until you brought it up. Sure,
>>things like that happen. But you're bringing into this discussion a
>>kind of case I was never addressing to begin with. I was talking
>>about consensual sex. You're talking about rape, torture,
>>confinement. This shit is stuff I don't approve of, and shame on you
>>for trying to make everyone think that I do. The person who did that
>>to Masha should be shot.
>
>
>
>>As for Masha's story, it sounds embellished to make it sound worse
>>than it really was.
>
> It was her impact statement
>
>> I'm not saying it wasn't bad for her, but I think
>>over time, she's added more adjectives to increase the amount of
>>sympathy she's getting. Emotions and feelings are addictive, and if
>>she's addicted to feeling sympathized over, she'll do what she can to
>>continue to spread her story and get more sympathy. She feels like
>>she deserves it for the hell she went through, and maybe she does. I'm
>>sure she still wants to protect others, but the celebrity status that
>>comes along with is addictive.
>
> Went right over your head didn't it?
>
>
>
Why do you bother with this freak (I mean other than to help him convince
others just how demented he is)? He's like Walz off his meds lol
--
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
**Pissing off the planet, one person at a time**
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:41:57 -0400:
>> >I'm not a pedophile. I'm neutral observer of human nature.
>> You're equally worthless.
>The idea that you think you can get inside my mind and know everything
>about me from one internet posts says a lot about you as a person.
>You're a flaming fucktard.
Bwahahahahahha!!
>> >So I say "fuck you" and fuck your lack of reading comprehension
>> >skills.
>> I comprehended your loving approval of pedophilia.
>You comprehended nothing but the reflection of your own ignorance
>bouncing off the article, back through the vomit-inducing fumes of
>ignorance spewing out of your wretched pig face. You saw what you
>wanted to see, and you ignored what was really there.
>If you have no more intelligence than to see nothing but love of
>pedophilia as it's practice today promoted in that article, then you
>have no business being incarnated as a human. Do as all a favor and
>kill yourself tonight. It won't mess with your spirit, but at least
>your corrupted body will be gone from society where it can't do any
>more damage.
>> For that you should eat a bullet.
>For you that should be a dildo wrapped in razor wire and shot straight
>up your ass by JPL.
You're also a lunatic.
If you're NOT a congenital pedophile you should seek professional
help.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>> Dead people can't perform self-defense.
>Stupid people point out the obvious. The funny thing is that they
>also point it out incorrectly and are too stupid to realize it.
>Your own sentence explains your own ignorance. When Cain killed Abel,
>Abel was dead and could not immediately defend himself. But Abel
>reincarnated...
Like I said, you're a lunatic.
Get professional help, idiot.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>"4s00th" <4s0...@hushmail.com> wrote in message
>news:2b57a458j0vlpep9p...@4ax.com...
>People like Patriot Games like to think they are morally superior
No, it has nothing to do with morals.
Sexual orientation is genetic.
Mistakes happen in genetics. Missing limbs, too many limbs, etc.
They are called genetic MUTATIONS.
Heterosexuality is a genetic sexual orientation. At about 96% of
humans we can safely call it NORMAL.
Anything ELSE is ABNORMAL.
Pedophilia is an ABNORMAL genetic sexual orientation. If it wasn't
extremely dangerous to defenseless humans we might ignore it, but it
is dangerous to defenseless humans so we SHOULD EXTERMINATE IT.
Patriot Games
wrote:
So. You're a fag?
>So one more time, Patriot Games, if you're still too ignorant to
>understand the spirit of my post
Your post had no spirit. You're a lunatic.
And you're a faggot. Homosexuals, being genetic mutations, are not
substantially different from pedophiles other than we ASSUME they are
not dangerous.
>...stop judging others, and mind your own fucking
>business.
Doing my part to help mankind IS my business, and exterminating the
genetic mutants known as pedophiles IS everyone's business because
protecting mankind's children IS everyone's business.
>then you aren't ready to see the kingdom and
>you'll be stuck here until you ARE ready.
There is no such thing as reincarnation, you're a lunatic.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>that leaves you out
Another Aussie pedophile heard from.
Here's hoping you DIE soon!
ThePsyko
heard Brandon D Cartwright cry out in
> In his claims to be a Godlike being immune to the constraints of
> lesser mortals he echoes the grandiosity and sickness found when
> you scratch beneath the surface of many pedophiles and their
> advocates..
>
> But I take your point..
>
> Clearly it's a Formosa case..but his interest in the virtues of
> pedophilia seems relatively recent..at least on the net..
very true.. I must say his frothing makes for interesting reading
>
>
>> He's like Walz off his meds lol
>
> heh..
>
> that's *exactly* what I was thinking..
ThePsyko
news:jhkba45r9ok4mk1rq...@4ax.com...
> In news:alt.activism.children, Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net>
> posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:07:15 -0700:
>
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:36:10 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In news:alt.activism.children, Brandon D Cartwright
>> ><us...@example.net> posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:57:04 -0700:
>> >
>> >> Masha..the victim whose experience you try to deny..it's a
>> >> thirteen year olds girl's attempt to shame creeps like you into
>> >> seeing the horror..
>> >
>> >LOL nice try to make me out to be the bad guy with more stupid
>> >assumptions.
>>
>> Clearly you are oblivious..
>
> Back atcha, and I know for a fact I'm right, and I know for a fact
> that you're ignorant because I see more than you do.
Lemme guess... you know the Truth!
>
>> >> In spite of having appeared on national TV and before a
>> >> Congressional Committee
>> >
>> >(Assuming I actually saw those...)
>>
>> Read again for comprehension rather than scanning for ways to try to
>> seem intelligent..
>
> I'm not looking for ways to seem intelligent.
That's good. Because you're failing miserably.
No. Actually we'd rather hear more about how you're a starling or
whatever you think you are?
>
> Damaeus
Patriot Games
wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:50:45 -0400, Patriot Games
><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:20:30 -0400, 4s00th <4s0...@hushmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:19 -0400, Patriot Games
>>><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>>>>>Examples:
>>>>It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>>>Isn't it interesting that some people WANT TO KILL some people WHO ARE
>>>SEXUALLY ATTRACTED in ways that they might not approve?
>>>And yet, if a pedophile doesn't actually have sex with a child, how
>>>his desire to do so any worse than this "normal" person's desire to
>>>commit murder?
>>Because a pedophile will eventually act on his congenital deviance.
>No evidence supports this supposition of yours. None.
Wrong. The evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation is good, and
the evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation triggered by a
combination of hormonal and other environmental factors is even
better.
>In fact, if my estimates
>regarding the prevalence of pedophilia based on what I've observed on
>the Internet are true, then a majority of those who have pedophilic
>feelings NEVER act on them except in their own fantasies.
That is an absolutely RETARDED observation of absolutely NOTHING.
>>Better to remove them from the population before they hurt an innocent
>>child.
>Anyone claiming to be a "Patriot" ought to understand the simple
>principle that no one can be punished for a crime that is never
>committed.
Apparently, while you were 'observing' genetic deviants tell lies on
the Internet and keeping score, you MISSED the term "Conspiracy To
Commit."
Conspiracy to commit a crime IS A CRIME IN AND OF ITSELF.
Patriot Games
<goof...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Aug 13, 11:06 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsist...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>> >Examples:
>> It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>If one of these sick people every hurt one of my kids or grandkids,
>I'm going to pound them into a bloody pulp. I'm a peaceful guy but
>this is one thing I won't tolerate.
My wife and I raised 5 kids and we're going on grandkid #12...
I'm happy that we can agree on this.
I consider myself a peaceful person however I'm capable of and have
performed massive (and horrible) violence. When it comes to
protecting me and mine there is NO gray area.
I'm sorry that creatures like pedophiles exist. I wish they didn't.
But they do. And they 'murder' innocent children as surely as if
they'd hacked off their heads.
I'm sorry medical science can't yet detect that mutation in the womb.
Maybe some day but not today.
All pedophiles will eventually make good on their genetic
predisposition. We have a duty and a responsibility to protect the
most innocent and most defenseless among us.
Damaeus
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:14:19 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
> >...we'd all have no sense of fashion or style...
>
> So. You're a fag?
No. I'm celibate. I'm no more interested in sex than having my
scrotum turned into a bonnet.
> >So one more time, Patriot Games, if you're still too ignorant to
> >understand the spirit of my post
>
> Your post had no spirit. You're a lunatic.
You only think I'm a lunatic because you can't understand me.
> And you're a faggot.
I'm not a fag.
> Homosexuals, being genetic mutations, are not substantially
> different from pedophiles other than we ASSUME they are not
> dangerous.
Fine. But that has nothing to do with me. While I did experiment
once by being the "bottom" in gay anal sex, I didn't like it, I've
only done it once, and I'm never doing it again. And I've never had
my penis inside anybody's anus, man, woman or child, and the only
girls I ever had sex with was at 7 and 17. I'm 38 now and haven't had
any form of sexual contact with another person since 1995, except for
one groping incident with a co-worker/friend of mine while we were at
home in 1997. But since nobody had their clothes off, I don't
consider that actual sex, just a momentary flirtation.
> > ...stop judging others, and mind your own fucking business.
>
> Doing my part to help mankind IS my business, and exterminating the
> genetic mutants known as pedophiles IS everyone's business because
> protecting mankind's children IS everyone's business.
Hitler. However, I agree with you that protecting children is
mankind's business. I just think they're doing it in an assinine way.
> >then you aren't ready to see the kingdom and
> >you'll be stuck here until you ARE ready.
>
> There is no such thing as reincarnation, you're a lunatic.
Oh, I better not die, then, or we all go up in smoke!
Damaeus
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, God versus a can of tuna
><goof...@gmail.com> posted on Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:12:22 -0700 (PDT):
>> On Aug 13, 11:06 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsist...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > >http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>> > >Examples:
>> > It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>> Rarely are you and I in agreement, Patriot.
>> If one of these sick people every hurt one of my kids or grandkids,
>> I'm going to pound them into a bloody pulp. I'm a peaceful guy but
>> this is one thing I won't tolerate.
Here's hoping that's the sound of the last breath leaving your body,
that I'm there when it happens, and that my hand caused it.
>My post has NOTHING to do with promoting pedophiles "preying" on kids.
>It simply presents a more sensible approach to consensual situations.
Children are incapable of participating in consensual situations
regarding sexual relationships.
>But if the sex is something that wasn't forced and the kid wanted it,
Children are incapable of participating in consensual situations
regarding sexual relationships.
Damaeus
posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:27:53 +0000 (UTC):
> Why do you bother with this freak (I mean other than to help him convince
> others just how demented he is)? He's like Walz off his meds lol
How is it demented to sit here and see how lives are destroyed by
turning one "accident" of consensual sex into rape?
It is people like you who are too demented and blinded by hate to see
what you're doing. It's like Jesus being whipped by ignorant people
who had no idea what they were doing.
Forgive them, Lord, for they know not what they do? I mean,
ultimately everyone's soul is fine. But you people are turning some
people's live into nightmares by your blanket application of a label
to all forms of sexual contact.
As I have said who knows how many times already, I'm not in favor of
intergenerational sex. I'm just against destroying everyone's life
when it accidentally happens. And yes, these are accidents, believe
it or not. Some pedophiles have become confused about the timing of
intergenerational sex. Nobody is immortal yet, so it's still a "sin".
Still, the existence of pedophiles and the hate they arouse gives
those who need to learn not to judge some material to work with. This
is all about learning who we are as a species. We're destined to be
immortal. At some point we're going to have to start at least acting
like it to get into the habits of gods, which start with understanding
the roots of pedophilia. And here it is:
We started out as kids before creation began. We were angels. We
split into two teams, just like picking teams in PE. The good guys'
team got the Seal of God. The bad guys' team got the Mark of the
Beast. We were all literally children. Kids, probably none no older
than maybe 13 or 14, though there may be some realms with adult-sized
people. I can't remember. Anyway, we inflicted amnesia upon
ourselves to forget all that so we could come down here and live these
mortal lives while our angelic selves fought it out in the heavens,
which we experienced in the form of dreams and nightmares while
sleeping.
The reason men are attracted to boys is because some feel that this is
a pleasure which if not partaken of now, there may never be a chance.
They feel that, as one who was born into this world, and not having
had a choice in the matter, they should have a right to engage in
their own form of sexuality as much as anyone else. This obviously
isn't wise under today's laws and traditions, but some feel it's worth
the risk. They just don't realize this attraction is from the spirit,
and if they'll be patient and wait, everyonen will be
all-understanding and then we can look however we want, and do
whatever we want, with complete freedom.
The attraction to boys comes from the spirit. On a spiritual level,
we literally look like beautiful and very sexual kids, some of us, and
are attracted to others who also look like kids. On a spiritual
level, we're immortal and all-knowing, but that realization has to be
injected into the flesh before it can become immortal and we can be
tranformed into the children of God we were meant to exist as forever.
The Bible illustrates all of this. The universe was created to be
filled with life. Therefore, the Bible is a sex manual and a set of
rules and/or suggestions on things to do to keep building life and
avoid death. Murder, rape, coveting, lying, stealing, and all these
do cause death. But you were given the intelligence to overcome death
by finding a way to live without rules, while also avoiding death.
This is known as becoming more enlightened and more aware of the ways
of immortal humans, not prisoners of our own laws, living a hellish
existence on earth.
The attraction of men to boys, then, particularly the athletic boys
with the graceful S-curve and the pronounced muscular dynamics, is
more of an attraction to the aesthetics of their beauty, initially.
From an artistic perspective, SOME spirits have incarnated into bodies
that happen to have turned out beautifully. They're artwork. Some
enjoy boys based on that alone, not being sexual, but just enjoying
the divine creation of a young form of a human being, much like you'd
admire how much cuter a puppy or kitten is before they become
full-grown. These are the types who are usually more satisfied with
artwork than actual photos unless there's something remarkable about
the body that has the same proportion and definitions of depictions of
gods in mythological stories.
Again, it's about the art of the human form, that being bodies we were
made to exist in forever, we should naturally want to be beautiful and
give us lots of good feelings, not just sit around for all eternity
wearing chastity devices and forbidding each other from having any
pleasure. Is that how you want to live? Is it? Fine, then go to
hell. Just take some water with you. There's a drought going on down
there.
Damaeus
ThePsyko
nice froth, kook. You complain I'm ignorant while making blanket
generalizations about my beliefs.
Do tell us more.
Damaeus
> In his claims to be a Godlike being immune to the constraints of
> lesser mortals
LOL! You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. If you had
the reading comprehension skills of a 6-year-old, you'd be able to
understand. I follow the law, fucklips. Hell, I've only had one
speeding ticket my whole life and that's because the cop was an ass. I
was new in town and coming out of a 55-zone. I was on the inside lane
and there was an 18-wheeler to my right, blocking my view of the whole
right shoulder. I kept going 55 and a cop pulled me over and said I
was going 55 in a 50. I told him I didn't see the sign, and he gave
me a ticket. He thought I was a liar, or he didn't care, one or the
other. I'm an honest person and I follow the law. The only law of
man's I break is the law against pot smoking. That's because that's
one law I put into the hands of God, because I love him more than
anything. :-) Smoking that makes me feel closer to him, and since I
like that feeling, nobody in this world is gonna take it from me.
> he echoes the grandiosity and sickness found when you scratch
> beneath the surface of many pedophiles and their advocates..
> But I take your point..
>
> Clearly it's a Formosa case..but his interest in the virtues of
> pedophilia seems relatively recent..at least on the net..
Research it all. Expose it here. I'll discuss it. I have nothing to
hide about any of it. The truth hurts to read, then you like to sit
back in your smugness and think you have it all figured out. Well,
you don't! LOL That's the hilarious part from my perspective, is
that you don't realize how tiny your perception is. To me, you look
like Donald Duck who has just relaxed and snuggled into a nap in a
burning house, and you don't even smell the smoke!
> > He's like Walz off his meds lol
>
> heh..
> that's *exactly* what I was thinking..
LOL, I don't take medication! Are you crazy? And end up like you?
LMAO! Perish the thought!!!
Keep on sucking in Fox News, television, radio and political
commentary, taking pharmaceutical drugs and sucking down
additive-laden groceries. Keep your minds fuzzy so you can't know who
you are and you can remain a slave to the corporations who control
your perception of reality and how everything is "just life".
Idiots!
Damaeus
ThePsyko
heard Brandon D Cartwright cry out in
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:09:40 +0000 (UTC), ThePsyko
> Careful..he will cast a spell on you
>
>:)
>
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>
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> ba uvf qrshapg jrofvgr...
>
> uggc://jro.nepuvir.bet/jro/20071030080726/jjj.jro-erpba.pbz/gv/vaqrk.ug
> zy
>
Reminds me of another poster who swore for the longest time that he was
only here to "fight against bigotry"
ThePsyko
> In news:alt.activism.children, Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net>
> posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:59:00 -0700:
>
>> In his claims to be a Godlike being immune to the constraints of
>> lesser mortals
>
> LOL! You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. If you had
> the reading comprehension skills of a 6-year-old, you'd be able to
> understand. I follow the law, fucklips. Hell, I've only had one
> speeding ticket my whole life and that's because the cop was an ass. I
> was new in town and coming out of a 55-zone. I was on the inside lane
> and there was an 18-wheeler to my right, blocking my view of the whole
> right shoulder. I kept going 55 and a cop pulled me over and said I
> was going 55 in a 50. I told him I didn't see the sign, and he gave
> me a ticket. He thought I was a liar, or he didn't care, one or the
> other. I'm an honest person and I follow the law. The only law of
> man's I break is the law against pot smoking. That's because that's
> one law I put into the hands of God, because I love him more than
> anything. :-) Smoking that makes me feel closer to him, and since I
> like that feeling, nobody in this world is gonna take it from me.
"I'm an honest person and I follow the law. The only law of man's I break
is the law against pot smoking"
Either you follow the law or you don't.
>
>> he echoes the grandiosity and sickness found when you scratch
>> beneath the surface of many pedophiles and their advocates..
>
>> But I take your point..
>>
>> Clearly it's a Formosa case..but his interest in the virtues of
>> pedophilia seems relatively recent..at least on the net..
>
> Research it all. Expose it here. I'll discuss it. I have nothing to
> hide about any of it. The truth hurts to read, then you like to sit
> back in your smugness and think you have it all figured out. Well,
> you don't! LOL That's the hilarious part from my perspective, is
> that you don't realize how tiny your perception is.
Meanwhile you make generalized assumptions about others' perceptions lol
> To me, you look
> like Donald Duck who has just relaxed and snuggled into a nap in a
> burning house, and you don't even smell the smoke!
>
>> > He's like Walz off his meds lol
>>
>> heh..
>> that's *exactly* what I was thinking..
>
> LOL, I don't take medication! Are you crazy? And end up like you?
> LMAO! Perish the thought!!!
>
> Keep on sucking in Fox News, television, radio and political
> commentary, taking pharmaceutical drugs and sucking down
> additive-laden groceries. Keep your minds fuzzy so you can't know who
> you are and you can remain a slave to the corporations who control
> your perception of reality and how everything is "just life".
>
> Idiots!
>
> Damaeus
>
--
Damaeus
> Here's hoping that's the sound of the last breath leaving your body,
> that I'm there when it happens, and that my hand caused it.
Meh... I don't care who it is, ultimately. Even in my death, I'm sent
to a happy place away from you miserable people who enjoy living in
the Hell you've created that's so restrictive from what you were meant
to be that you aren't even aware of it! That's the sad part is that
you don't realize how much happier your life could be if you stopped
hating so much. There's a vast difference in your perception and
awareness that allows you to see the problems surrounding an issue and
come up with logical and sane solutions that don't destroy anyone's
lives, but instead helps people keep elements of their awakening in
perspective so nobody's free will is violated.
> > My post has NOTHING to do with promoting pedophiles "preying" on
> > kids. It simply presents a more sensible approach to consensual
> > situations.
>
> Children are incapable of participating in consensual situations
> regarding sexual relationships.
You are living in a fantasy land. Kids consent to sex all the time
with adults. You just refuse to believe they have enough sense to
make that kind of judgment on their own, and I actually agree with
you, but for different reasons you're not aware of, which is why we
both agree and disagree with each other.
So when a kid and an adult get together, and the kid does consent,
even though nobody got hurt, nobody wants to explain anything. They
just look at the pedophile and see bars in front of his face. In this
case, the kid is more hurt because he is left thinking that "feeling
good" with an adult is wrong. And while there's nothing wrong with
teaching your kids that if that's how you want to raise them, there
are more humane ways of teaching your kids not to consent to sex with
adults than putting pedophiles in jail. Education of the sort I'm
promoting is one way. I'm teaching that the roots of pedophilia come
from our god selves and that we should wait until we are gods before
we play like boys and pedophiles do. There's nothing wrong with two
people playing together when one looks like a boy and one looks like a
man. It's just not something we should be doing right now in these
mortal bodies. That said, when it does happen, finding humane ways to
deal with the problem is part of maturing as a society. Resorting to
barbaric methods only keeps us glued to the old ways, and pushes our
own immortality further into the future, thereby prolonging all of our
sufferings.
Now, is that what you want? Fine. Keep peddling hate.
> >But if the sex is something that wasn't forced and the kid wanted it,
>
> Children are incapable of participating in consensual situations
> regarding sexual relationships.
Yes, you parroted someone else's rhetoric before and I'm sick of
hearing you tell me what someone else said. Speak your mind or fuck
off, dimwit!
Damaeus
Damaeus
> My wife and I raised 5 kids and we're going on grandkid #12...
Congrats, happy for ya, and I hope nobody touched them.
> I'm happy that we can agree on this.
> I consider myself a peaceful person however I'm capable of and have
> performed massive (and horrible) violence. When it comes to
> protecting me and mine there is NO gray area.
I'd feel the same way if I had a family.
> I'm sorry that creatures like pedophiles exist. I wish they didn't.
> But they do. And they 'murder' innocent children as surely as if
> they'd hacked off their heads.
And those people should be shot, at this point. It won't harm their
spirits, but it'll get their corrupted body out of society where it
can do no more harm, that is until we can explain to them in a way
they understand why they shouldn't do the things they do. If we can
make them understand why it's not good right now, they won't do it.
The only reason they commit the nastier crimes against kids is because
they're confused. Some know it's wrong, but they can't help
themselves. They're so desperate to have kids because they don't
realize they're going to be able to be around kids forever after
everyone is immortal. They think this is their only chance, so they
would rather have sex with kids and die in prison than to run the risk
of never having kids at all.
Since I know in eternity I'm going to be a kid, myself, I'm satisfied
with that and I have the patience to wait. In the meantime, I try to
get these issues sorted out now to calm everyone down so the
consciousness of the planet can stabilize more and the dust of
confusion will settle. If people understand why the things in the
world happen the way they do, it will help them understand their
immortal selves, and their dreams in the way they were intended to be
interpreted, and we can remember who we are as eternal beings.
We're all at war with each other right now in the quantum field, also
known as the spirit world, or heaven. These arguments are about
sorting out some of these ideas that keep us separated and balancing
the enmity between our souls so we can remember that we're all
friends. So even these arguments are good. They're learing
experiences for all, even in the fury they arouse in you and everyone
else that has been attracted to this thread.
> I'm sorry medical science can't yet detect that mutation in the womb.
> Maybe some day but not today.
Medical science can't detect this because it's not a mutation. It's
spiritual.
> All pedophiles will eventually make good on their genetic
> predisposition. We have a duty and a responsibility to protect the
> most innocent and most defenseless among us.
But that can be taken to extremes.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:05:30 -0400, 4s00th <4s0...@hushmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >N o evidence supports this supposition of yours. None.
>
> Wrong. The evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation is good, and
> the evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation triggered by a
> combination of hormonal and other environmental factors is even
> better.
These all exclude allowances for the influence of the spirit, which
I'm here to defend as being more important, and having precedence over
the flesh. The spirit and its connection to the quantum field affects
the genetic development of all species, throughout evolution. Natural
selection is governened by divine intelligence. Species that mutated
toward divine order survived. Species that mutated away from divine
order went extinct. Humans, in their meddling ways, chose to try to
save species that were meant to go extinct, hence all the extra
suffering brought on yourselves by trying to interfere. It's good. It
shows compassion. It's all fine. But the lesson is not to hang on to
the past or its ways because it slows the quickening of your spirits
into full immortality.
> > In fact, if my estimates regarding the prevalence of pedophilia
> > based on what I've observed on the Internet are true, then a
> > majority of those who have pedophilic feelings NEVER act on them
> > except in their own fantasies.
>
> That is an absolutely RETARDED observation of absolutely NOTHING.
No, it's not. This is a perfect example of the kind of person who
understand who they are on a deep level, and they realize that
intergenerational sex is wrong under man's law, and they respect that,
choosing instead to live out their fantasies in their own
imaginations. There's nothing wrong with that. I'd think this would
make you happy since it keeps them out of your backyard.
> >>Better to remove them from the population before they hurt an innocent
> >>child.
> >Anyone claiming to be a "Patriot" ought to understand the simple
> >principle that no one can be punished for a crime that is never
> >committed.
>
> Apparently, while you were 'observing' genetic deviants tell lies
You only think they're liars because perhaps you can't control your
own lusts for your object of desire, so you assume nobody else can
either. That's the kind of perspective that comes up with "you're a
liar" in response to someone else who is really telling the truth.
> On the Internet and keeping score, you MISSED the term
> "Conspiracy To Commit." Conspiracy to commit a crime IS A CRIME
> IN AND OF ITSELF.
Um.... We're all aware of that. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
A conspiracy is just a bunch of people getting together to do bad
things. Discussions of this type on the internet are not
conspiracies. They're debates. Nobody is conspiring to do anything
to any kids here. And you call US delusional? Your post exhibits all
the classic signs of psychosis. You believe these internet posts are
all conspiracies to molest children.
psychosis - a major mental disorder in which the personality is
very seriously disorganized and contact with reality is usually
impaired:
Yes, you are definitely psychotic and need medication. The reality,
here, is that nobody here is conspiring to do anything to children.
You are simply out of touch with reality due to the onset of
psychosis, evidenced by your paranoia that we're out to harm kids.
Nothing could be further from the truth! I'm here to help everyone
understand so we can all live forever.
Damaeus
God versus a can of tuna
> In news:alt.activism.children, God versus a can of tuna
>
> > On Aug 13, 11:06 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsist...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
> > > >Examples:
>
> > > It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>
> > Rarely are you and I in agreement, Patriot.
>
> > If one of these sick people every hurt one of my kids or grandkids,
> > I'm going to pound them into a bloody pulp. I'm a peaceful guy but
> > this is one thing I won't tolerate.
>
> problem is that people like you are full of so much hatred for
> something you don't understand that anything that even tries to
> explain it you see as all about something evil. If you knew the roots
> to pedophilia, you might even learn something about yourself that
> turns into one who garners more peace, and not more hate.
>
> My whole post was an attempt to explain the whole issue objectively,
> but people like you are too fucking retarded to comprehend plain
> english. All you see is "sex" and "children" in the same article, and
> your brain becomes so psychotically disorganized that you can't think
> straight, hence you're foaming at the mouth over the thought of
> somebody touching your kids. It's all you see. You're blinded by
> anything that tries to explain it. You're like the angry grizzly bear
> who only sees you and her cub. You are going to die. That's is what
> you act like as a hater of pedophiles, a snarling bear. But just like
> the mother bear, you don't understand that the human means that bear
> cub no harm. But the mother bear doesn't understand, just as you
> don't understand. Understandable from your perspective, but I'm just
> illustrating how limited and short-sighted it is.
>
> My post has NOTHING to do with promoting pedophiles "preying" on kids.
> It simply presents a more sensible approach to consensual situations.
>
> shot in the face point blank with twelve rounds of buckshot, and I'll
> pull the trigger myself if nobody else will. Why? Because I'm an
> intelligent, reasonable human being who sees the issues on both sides
> of a sensitive topic. I'm in favor of putting into a blender the
> balls of ANY rapist, no matter what the age of their victims. But if
> the sex is something that wasn't forced and the kid wanted it, people
> should be ASKING QUESTIONS of the KID first, instead of going on a
> primitive posse hunt like a bunch of snarling cowboys in the old west.
> It looks stupid and it's unbecoming of an enlightened society, so stop
> it!
>
> It doesn't mean you can't still choose to be protective of your kids.
> It just shows you why others make the choices they make so you can
> understand it and be a better person. And the bear analogy above
> should help put into perspective how everyone else in the world sees
> you on this subject.
>
> You say you're a peaceful guy. Fine. Take some of that peace and
> really examine this issue from other angles besides one that says all
> pedos must die. I agree that it's actually best if the
> intergenerational sex never takes place. But when it does, I don't
> think it's necessary to always go to pieces and destroy someone's life
> over it. See what the circumstances are, then make rational decisions
> based on facts, not snap decisions made on assumptions about what the
> kid can and can't handle. You just don't know until you ask them how
> THEY feel about everything.
>
> Damaeus
I don't care how you dress it up, it's still wrong and intolerable.
Kids can be easily mislead and taken advantage by adults. My peace
and reason ends at the point where someone hurts one of mine. Take
your corrupt crap somewhere else, you sick monster.
Damaeus
> I don't care how you dress it up, it's still wrong and intolerable.
> Kids can be easily mislead and taken advantage by adults. My peace
> and reason ends at the point where someone hurts one of mine. Take
> your corrupt crap somewhere else, you sick monster.
Um.... I'm not disagreeing with you completely. Don't call ME a
monster.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:31:58 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >"sadly considered unethical." Is the key word here sadly? Like
> >you're sad that it's unethical to use the method?
>
> Of course..
>
> It's tragic that misplaced squeamishness and moral qualms prevents
> pedophiles from receiving a treatment with a 95% success rate..
So after all this, my original assessment was right. You love the
idea of highly invasive procedures against pedophiles because you're a
sadist. Nothing wrong with that as long as you don't lie about it.
That way people know what they're getting into when they get involved
with you.
> You claim to interpret dream symbolism yet fail to see the
> significance of a gay man dreaming of strange men drilling the back of
> his throat?
I never applied the sexual element to that dream until you brought it
up, you perv. Now you're turning me into your kind of monster.
However, I do thank you for mentioning it. I am surprised I didn't
think of that first, myself.
Besides all that, though, I can't help what I dream about. I'm asleep
when it happens.
> Far from being honest you are turning into an unvarnished
> self-documented liar..
No I'm not. I've never lied in any of my posts.
> Message-ID: <0hn31uoir7crq7ggk...@4ax.com>
>
> You assume I would have kept the same e-mail address all these
> years? I think not. I've had this e-mail address for not quite
> 11 months.
>
> Plus I currently post with about five different identities across
> several newsgroups.
That's not a lie. I said I used several different e-mail addresses.
You accused me of using different nyms. There's a difference, but of
course you're too stupid to know that.
> My messages go back to times before Deja.com started archiving
> usenet messages. Plus in some newsgroups I use the X-No-Archive
> header, which keeps Google from keeping a record of my posts.
So?
> One e-mail address I completely wiped off the face of
> Deja with a little known form that can be submitted.
Nothing wrong with that, either. Besides, DejaNews hasn't been around
for fucking ages.
> >And I don't spout others' theology. I spout what I
> >believe.
>
> oh yes..beams and specks in the eye are real original..
I use familiar stories as reference material because I know people are
familiar with them. It's a "for example," something which I've never
seen you use in any of your posts. You just like to post insults,
accusations and hatred without backing it up with anything
substantial. You're a weak conversationalist and a lousy debater. You
don't even address most of my points. You ingore them as if they
don't matter, because you don't want to admit you're wrong.
> And it's *Anton* La Vey dipshit..not John La Vey
I know that, damn! I even knew that in 2001, but for some reason I
typed John instead of LaVey. So sue me. Somebody makes an error
fucking in 2001 and you decide to drag it up and discredit my whole
post because of that? That shows how weak both you and your position
are. You have to search into the past to find things to dig up on me,
while I can sit here and lazily reply with thoughts right out of my
own head.
> lol!
>
> Your omniscience clearly doesn't stretch to knowing the author's name
> of your own "bible".
I've never read Anton's work, nor do I particularly care to.
> Not at all..the point is to combine castration with modern hi tech
> psychosurgery..
>
> Simple castration alone whether surgical or chemical makes pedophiles
> *much* more prone to use sadism and violence against their child
> victims..
Well, this shows where your belief in a creator lies. You don't think
he did a very good job at creating people, so you have to take it upon
yourselves to advocate psychosurgery to "correct" people's brains.
Well, at least we know where you stand on your perception of God. He
sucks!
Nice trimming, by the way. You should be more considerate of those
with limited bandwith and stop wasting other people's money with your
inconsiderate posting of excess quoted material. That's another
tell-tale sign of someone who never thinks of anyone but himself.
Damaeus
4s00th
<Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:05:30 -0400, 4s00th <4s0...@hushmail.com>
>wrote:
>>On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:50:45 -0400, Patriot Games
>><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:20:30 -0400, 4s00th <4s0...@hushmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:19 -0400, Patriot Games
>>>><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>>>>>>Examples:
>>>>>It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>>>>Isn't it interesting that some people WANT TO KILL some people WHO ARE
>>>>SEXUALLY ATTRACTED in ways that they might not approve?
>>>>And yet, if a pedophile doesn't actually have sex with a child, how
>>>>his desire to do so any worse than this "normal" person's desire to
>>>>commit murder?
>>>Because a pedophile will eventually act on his congenital deviance.
>>No evidence supports this supposition of yours. None.
>
>Wrong. The evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation is good, and
>the evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation triggered by a
>combination of hormonal and other environmental factors is even
>better.
The irony in your posts gains momentum: later in this post you have
the nerve to refer to me as making "retarded" observations while you
don't have enough brains to understand that I was referring to your
statement that a pedophile will ACT on his "congenital deviance" when
I stated that there was no evidence to support your statement. I am
very much aware of the evidence supporting the idea that sexual
preference has a genetic basis.
>>In fact, if my estimates
>>regarding the prevalence of pedophilia based on what I've observed on
>>the Internet are true, then a majority of those who have pedophilic
>>feelings NEVER act on them except in their own fantasies.
>
>That is an absolutely RETARDED observation of absolutely NOTHING.
You're entitled to your own opinion, of course, but the opinions of a
bigoted, ignorant fool who cannot even understand what is being
discussed carry very little weight.
Do the math. Some studies have suggested that as much as 60% of the
population may well have pedophilic feelings -- not a preference, mind
you, but the feelings and desires. This suggestion is supported by the
amount of advertising on the Internet (over the last 10 years, lately
it's been cleaned up quite a bit) that uses child pornography to imply
that their services include child pornography. If there wasn't such a
huge demand for the stuff, then advertisers would not want to risk
using child porn in their attempts to attract users to their sites in
the hope that they will subscribe to the service despite the fact that
they actually do not have any illegal content. Other sites that cater
to written erotica thrive on the sheer amount of pedophilic content,
so much so that even free services can thrive based on contributions.
Yet estimates of childhood sexual abuse suggest that only about 20% of
boys and 30% of girls are even solicited for sex while the actual
incidence of such is less. Meanwhile, you anti-ped idiots keep
claiming that an individual child molester molests hundred's of
children in his/her lifetime. The only valid conclusion that one can
make of these statistics is that actual child molestation is
perpetrated by a very small and very active number of the actual
population of pedophiles; the majority of people who are pedophiles or
have some pedophilic desires DO NOT have sexual relationships with
children despite their desires.
>>>Better to remove them from the population before they hurt an innocent
>>>child.
>>Anyone claiming to be a "Patriot" ought to understand the simple
>>principle that no one can be punished for a crime that is never
>>committed.
>
>Apparently, while you were 'observing' genetic deviants tell lies on
>the Internet and keeping score, you MISSED the term "Conspiracy To
>Commit."
>
>Conspiracy to commit a crime IS A CRIME IN AND OF ITSELF.
Yes, conspiracy to commit a crime is indeed a crime. But conspiracy is
defined as "An agreement between two or more persons to engage jointly
in an unlawful or criminal act, or an act that is innocent in itself
but becomes unlawful when done by the combination of actors." If you
are suggesting that people here are committing a conspiracy to commit
child molestation, I would remind you that the majority of child
molestation cases involve a single perpetrator and are not done
"jointly."
Furthermore, the crime of conspiracy implies that someone is INTENT on
engaging in a criminal act -- whereas the purpose of most discussion
on this newsgroup is to help people before they commit a crime so that
they DO NOT commit a crime or to get them to stop if they are
committing or have already committed a crime. You should also note
that if you have people saying that they would like to commit a crime
in a very vague way; as an example, stating that you would like to
have sex with a minor; then no conspiracy exists because that is not a
statement of intent, merely of desire. Intent means that people are
actively planning to commit a specific crime that they actually intend
to commit. Without a statement of INTENT, merely wanting to do
something does not meet the definition of a conspiracy to commit a
crime.
Perhaps before you accuse people of something, you ought to actually
know and understand what you're accusing them of doing. It tends to
make you look a lot less foolish.
If you send email, I will reply to it here at asbl
(without showing your email addy)
unless you ask me not to.
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Alan B. Mac Farlane
Damaeus
posted on Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:51:22 -0700:
> ya ya
Well, don't just sit there waiting in the la la. Take your ya ya and
go!
Uh. Since this is a slow group, I'll have to explain the
multi-layered symbology employed in this humor by my superior
intellect.
He replied with "ya ya" as a bitch-assed reply to my post.
I needed something that would relate to him being mentally incompetent
(la la land), be clean for any kids who might happen to read it in
case it was so funny as to be forwarded to a website for a prize or
comical feature, and also humiliate him out of the newsgroup. Well,
since the "la la" was also a waiting room, the ya ya had to be a
person, in this case, symbolizing the ideas contained within his
person. So I came up with the above reply. Isn't that cool how that
works? That's why he's an idiot, and I'm not.
That's also why this newsgroup is loaded with idiots who don't even
know they're idiots. That makes them easy targets for verbal abuse
that's comical, just because it's so open, honest, and deserving to be
ladled over those with holy brains. If I didn't think you could take
the impact of my words, which is only 10% of what I'm able to
communicate behind this computer screen, I wouldn't post. But since I
know the other 90% of your physiological reaction to reading my words
is your own imagination, I post with glee knowing that any mental
anguish has resulted from your own brain's reaction to something you
chose to read under your own power. Therefore, I'm totally absolved
of responsibility. You're mad, it's your fault.
We've all known since grade school that sticks and stones break your
bones, but names will never hurt you. That goes for usenet posts,
too. So fuck off, shit hole!
Damaeus
Damaeus
as well pretend to be a monkey and do what he did. Oh well. Sue me
for wasting quantum folds:
Damaeus
Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:21:57 -0400:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:18:02 -0400, Patriot Games
> <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>
> >Wrong. The evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation is good, and
> >the evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation triggered by a
> >combination of hormonal and other environmental factors is even
> >better.
>
> The irony in your posts gains momentum: later in this post you have
> the nerve to refer to me as making "retarded" observations while you
> don't have enough brains to understand that I was referring to your
> statement that a pedophile will ACT on his "congenital deviance"
Congenital deviance is actually the spirit trying to overpower the
body. It comes through in reality as congenital deviance, but it's
from a higher source of genetic information. The fact that pedophiles
molest boys is an act of the spirit. What man chooses to do about it
is his own choice. Some choices are better than others, though. Right
now, I think folks are pretty much as dark as they can go without
all-out executions or woodchipper parties.
> When I stated that there was no evidence to support your
> statement. I am very much aware of the evidence supporting the
> idea that sexual preference has a genetic basis.
And genetic evolution is driven by information in the quantum field.
As our minds become more entangled with this information, it's going
to continue altering our DNA and causing more wild emotional flings
and bizarre behavior.
> You're entitled to your own opinion, of course, but the opinions of a
> bigoted, ignorant fool who cannot even understand what is being
> discussed carry very little weight.
>
> Do the math. Some studies have suggested that as much as 60% of the
> population may well have pedophilic feelings -- not a preference, mind
> you, but the feelings and desires.
Wow! Really!? I had no idea it was that huge! Hmmm... did they
mention any possible cause or anything? Well, like I've said in other
posts, as fully awake, immortal humans, we do look like children in
our natural state. From there, we can pretend to be anything we want.
Dragons, horses, faires, leprechauns, whatever, and it becomes as real
and true as everything around you is now. So right now, I think
pedophiles are acting on spiritual influences from their immortal
selves. That's the root of their desire for kids. It's of God,
basically. But it was mostly intended for AFTER immortality, when
we're all aware of what's going on.
The immortalization process involves a lot of "molestation" of your
sexual parts, like invisible fingers fondling your balls. The irony
here is that never happens when you want it to. It happens when you
least expect it. Contrast that with pedophilia. It seems to happen
when you least expect it, too. The immortalization process is the
second puberty in adulthood that runs through more like a rape than
something beautiful, like preparing someone for an eternity of sexual
abuse in a beautiful body. Of course, it has its beautiful moments,
too, along with the moments that make you feel like a watermelon is up
your ass. Heh... it doesn't matter whether you're a pedophile or not.
The second puberty is going to give you an ass-rape anyway.
Nobody's heard about it because I seem to be the first one to go
through it. My messages here and in other newsgroups are attempts to
"stab" spikes of enlightenment into people's brains, in hopes that
they'll pick up on it and understand the ways of gods, too, so we can
all stop working, stop slaving, get naked, and have some fun for a
change.
> Yet estimates of childhood sexual abuse suggest that only about 20% of
> boys and 30% of girls are even solicited for sex while the actual
> incidence of such is less. Meanwhile, you anti-ped idiots keep
> claiming that an individual child molester molests hundred's of
> children in his/her lifetime. The only valid conclusion that one can
> make of these statistics is that actual child molestation is
> perpetrated by a very small and very active number of the actual
> population of pedophiles; the majority of people who are pedophiles or
> have some pedophilic desires DO NOT have sexual relationships with
> children despite their desires.
Yeah, that's true. The ancient souls are aware of the ways of gods,
but they're wise enough not to talk about it like I have. I
personally don't give a fuck because I know what the truth is about
the whole issue. I'm not scared to talk about it because I can
explain it to anyone. The problem with text is that only 10% of the
message is being received. Nobody is seeing how nice and friendly I
am in person. :-)
> Yes, conspiracy to commit a crime is indeed a crime. But conspiracy is
> defined as "An agreement between two or more persons to engage jointly
> in an unlawful or criminal act, or an act that is innocent in itself
> but becomes unlawful when done by the combination of actors." If you
> are suggesting that people here are committing a conspiracy to commit
> child molestation, I would remind you that the majority of child
> molestation cases involve a single perpetrator and are not done
> "jointly."
Even so, talking about a crime isn't the same as committing it. You
don't know the mindset of the people discussing it. Like in this
newsgroup, some just assume I'm a pervert just because I talk about
the things I talk about, but I'm not, according to their own
standards. According to Earthly standards, you can't find a more
law-abiding citizen than me. It's just that I'm talking about the
things that are done in a different form of existence for humans, and
how longings for that eternal existence results in lusts for fleshly
boys on Earth. I'm not trying to defend or promote pedophilia for
today. I'm just explaining why it happens, and why the pedophile
should not be treated like a criminal, but instead understood within
the context of what happened and the eternal scheme of things.
> Furthermore, the crime of conspiracy implies that someone is INTENT on
> engaging in a criminal act -- whereas the purpose of most discussion
> on this newsgroup is to help people before they commit a crime so that
> they DO NOT commit a crime
Exactly! That's the purpose of all my posts! To explain both sides
so the hating stops on one side, and the punishment stops on the
other. That way we can all settle down and get some understanding
around the whole issue.
> Or to get them to stop if they are committing or have already
> committed a crime. You should also note that if you have people
> saying that they would like to commit a crime in a very vague
> way; as an example, stating that you would like to have sex with
> a minor; then no conspiracy exists because that is not a
> statement of intent, merely of desire.
Yeah, that's true, too. I can say that I "desire" a minor, but that
desire I play out in my imagination in the form of fantasies for
eternity, not for today or next week. For today would be stupid
because then you end up in jail and can't have any fun at all. It's
bad enough not being able to do all the fucking and sucking that goes
on in heaven, but to lose your freedom NOW because you can't hold your
dick in your pants is just insane! What little fun we an have with
what little freedom we have now is a hell of a lot better than having
to sit in a jail cell with some Naked Nigger Named Bruno with a 12"
dick and no compassion for child molester. Nobody but a fucking
psychopath would go near a kid in this day and age.
> Intent means that people are actively planning to commit a
> specific crime that they actually intend to commit. Without a
> statement of INTENT, merely wanting to do something does not meet
> the definition of a conspiracy to commit a crime.
Yes, I think intent should have to include evidence, if they're going
to play that game. They need plans on paper. Intent is the process
of pretending in the mind that you're going to do something. Is it
illegal to pretend? I think not. Therefore, intent is not a
punishable offense, or then again, I guess it is. Hmm. Thought
crimes.
I guess my whole post is now illegal, but I'm going to break that law
now and post this message, anyway. I figure that if the world has
gotten so bad that I can't even pretend in my own head without the
risk of being arrested, I might as well poof myself out of existence.
> Perhaps before you accuse people of something, you ought to actually
> know and understand what you're accusing them of doing. It tends to
> make you look a lot less foolish.
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!!
Damaeus
Alan B. Mac Farlane
no-...@hotmail.invalid wrote on 8/17/08 5:28 AM:
> g
ya ya
Patriot Games
>Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:24:14 -0700 (PDT), tsis...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> >http://newgon.com/wiki/Accounts_and_Testimonies
>> >> >Examples:
>> >> It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>> >kill me, but if you tried it would be perfectly legal for me to kill
>> >you!
>> Dead people can't perform self-defense.
>And no doubt you are so hard-core that you can kill with a look.
I prefer a pistol.
>Come and find me and do the deed, if you are such a bad-ass!
Somebody, some day, will. Of that I have no doubt.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:06:24 -0400:
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:14:19 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> >...we'd all have no sense of fashion or style...
>> So. You're a fag?
>No. I'm celibate. I'm no more interested in sex than having my
>scrotum turned into a bonnet.
You can't repress your genetic destiny forever.
>> >So one more time, Patriot Games, if you're still too ignorant to
>> >understand the spirit of my post
>> Your post had no spirit. You're a lunatic.
>You only think I'm a lunatic because you can't understand me.
I understand you lunacy quite well.
>> And you're a faggot.
>I'm not a fag.
Humans cannot change their genetic wiring by wishing it.
>> Homosexuals, being genetic mutations, are not substantially
>> different from pedophiles other than we ASSUME they are not
>> dangerous.
>Fine. But that has nothing to do with me. While I did experiment
>once by being the "bottom" in gay anal sex, I didn't like it, I've
>only done it once, and I'm never doing it again. And I've never had
>my penis inside anybody's anus, man, woman or child, and the only
>girls I ever had sex with was at 7 and 17. I'm 38 now and haven't had
>any form of sexual contact with another person since 1995, except for
>one groping incident with a co-worker/friend of mine while we were at
>home in 1997. But since nobody had their clothes off, I don't
>consider that actual sex, just a momentary flirtation.
You can't repress your genetic destiny forever.
>> > ...stop judging others, and mind your own fucking business.
>> Doing my part to help mankind IS my business, and exterminating the
>> genetic mutants known as pedophiles IS everyone's business because
>> protecting mankind's children IS everyone's business.
>Hitler. However, I agree with you that protecting children is
>mankind's business. I just think they're doing it in an assinine way.
>> >then you aren't ready to see the kingdom and
>> >you'll be stuck here until you ARE ready.
>> There is no such thing as reincarnation, you're a lunatic.
>Oh, I better not die, then, or we all go up in smoke!
Trust me, your death will be so unremarkable it won't even make the
newspapers.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:18:02 -0400:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:05:30 -0400, 4s00th <4s0...@hushmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >N o evidence supports this supposition of yours. None.
>> Wrong. The evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation is good, and
>> the evidence for genetic-based sexual orientation triggered by a
>> combination of hormonal and other environmental factors is even
>> better.
>These all exclude allowances for the influence of the spirit,
Fate is genetics. You can run and you can hide but your genetics will
ALWAYS FIND YOU.
>> Apparently, while you were 'observing' genetic deviants tell lies
>You only think they're liars because perhaps you can't control your
>own lusts for your object of desire, so you assume nobody else can
>either. That's the kind of perspective that comes up with "you're a
>liar" in response to someone else who is really telling the truth.
>> On the Internet and keeping score, you MISSED the term
>> "Conspiracy To Commit." Conspiracy to commit a crime IS A CRIME
>> IN AND OF ITSELF.
>Um.... We're all aware of that. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
>A conspiracy is just a bunch of people getting together to do bad
>things.
No. A conspiracy of ONE is still a conspiracy. Conspiracy to commit a
crime is a crime.
>I'm here to help everyone understand so we can all live forever.
You're a lunatic.
Patriot Games
You're not making any sense.
>>>In fact, if my estimates
>>>regarding the prevalence of pedophilia based on what I've observed on
>>>the Internet are true, then a majority of those who have pedophilic
>>>feelings NEVER act on them except in their own fantasies.
>>That is an absolutely RETARDED observation of absolutely NOTHING.
>You're entitled to your own opinion, of course, but the opinions of a
>bigoted, ignorant fool who cannot even understand what is being
>discussed carry very little weight.
>Do the math. Some studies have suggested that as much as 60% of the
>population may well have pedophilic feelings
Cite?
>Yet estimates of childhood sexual abuse suggest that only about 20% of
>boys and 30% of girls are even solicited for sex while the actual
>incidence of such is less.
Yes, pedophilia is rare.
>Meanwhile, you anti-ped idiots keep
>claiming that an individual child molester molests hundred's of
>children in his/her lifetime.
That's based on THEIR ADMISSIONS, and somewhat verified by research.
>The only valid conclusion that one can
>make of these statistics is that actual child molestation is
>perpetrated by a very small and very active number of the actual
>population of pedophiles; the majority of people who are pedophiles or
>have some pedophilic desires DO NOT have sexual relationships with
>children despite their desires.
That conclusion can't be considered valid until you first prove the
existence of some large number of pedophiles in the population that
have not committed pedophilia.
>>>>Better to remove them from the population before they hurt an innocent
>>>>child.
>>>Anyone claiming to be a "Patriot" ought to understand the simple
>>>principle that no one can be punished for a crime that is never
>>>committed.
>>Apparently, while you were 'observing' genetic deviants tell lies on
>>the Internet and keeping score, you MISSED the term "Conspiracy To
>>Commit."
>>Conspiracy to commit a crime IS A CRIME IN AND OF ITSELF.
>Yes, conspiracy to commit a crime is indeed a crime. But conspiracy is
>defined as "An agreement between two or more persons to engage jointly
>in an unlawful or criminal act, or an act that is innocent in itself
>but becomes unlawful when done by the combination of actors." If you
>are suggesting that people here are committing a conspiracy to commit
>child molestation, I would remind you that the majority of child
>molestation cases involve a single perpetrator and are not done
>"jointly."
Is it legal for a child to have sex with an adult? No.
Is it legal for an adult to have sex with a child? No.
Does the ACT of an adult CONSPIRING to INDUCE a CHILD into sex involve
TWO PEOPLE (1 adult + 1 child)? Yes.
Now you have a CONSPIRACY.
>Perhaps before you accuse people of something, you ought to actually
>know and understand what you're accusing them of doing.
I do.
>It tends to make you look a lot less foolish.
Yes, you do look foolish.
That's your problem, not mine.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:33:34 -0400:
>> Here's hoping that's the sound of the last breath leaving your body,
>> that I'm there when it happens, and that my hand caused it.
>Meh... I don't care who it is, ultimately. Even in my death, I'm sent
>to a happy place away from you miserable people who enjoy living in
>the Hell you've created that's so restrictive from what you were meant
>to be that you aren't even aware of it! That's the sad part is that
>you don't realize how much happier your life could be if you stopped
>hating so much.
When I have my lawn care crew apply weed killer and pesticide to my
lawn I am not hating my lawn, I'm not hating the weeds, and I'm not
hating the bugs.
Exterminating the genetic mutants from our population is no different.
The ONLY reason you think you're human is because you LOOK human. That
only makes you HUMANOID, not necessarily human.
>> >But if the sex is something that wasn't forced and the kid wanted it,
>> Children are incapable of participating in consensual situations
>> regarding sexual relationships.
>Yes, you parroted someone else's rhetoric before and I'm sick of
>hearing you tell me what someone else said. Speak your mind or fuck
>off, dimwit!
I already spoke my mind. You're a lunatic. Humankind would be
improved if you ceased to exist. If that can occur prior to your
procreating all the better.
Patriot Games
wrote:
Empty message.....
Patriot Games
<us...@example.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:41:57 -0400, Patriot Games
><Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:39:08 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>>>> It should be legal to kill pedophiles.
>>Why not?
>>>I'm not a pedophile. I'm neutral observer of human nature.
>>You're equally worthless.
>>>So I say "fuck you" and fuck your lack of reading comprehension
>>>skills.
>>I comprehended your loving approval of pedophilia.
>>For that you should eat a bullet.
>He is quite mad..
Yep. Bad wiring. Our best 'software' can handle minor problems
associated with bad wiring. But NO 'software' that we currently have,
and no humane chemistry and/or surgery, can handle seriously bad
wiring.
>I remember my stay in a state mental hospital in the latter quarter of
>1997. I trusted the doctors there, thinking that some of the other
>patients were native Humans who could have been picking up on cosmic
>telepathic transmissions, but did not have the ability to assimilate
>the information logically, and therefore they were having powerful
>delusions and accurately labeled "mentally ill" by earthly standards.
>I believed that the starseeds, on the other hand, who were actually
>meant to receive and understand the transmissions, would be
>transferred to a different location for further questioning by the
>psychiatrists.
>So I answered their questions, even though they had not directly
>indicated that their plan was parallel to my assumptions, nor had I
>indicated that I "knew what was up". I always answered calmly, but as
>a 27-year-old who had never really found a purpose in life, I couldn't
>help showing a certain degree of inner excitement because it was all
>new, refreshing and just right for me. When one finds a true purpose
>in life, one will go through anything to pursue that purpose to its
>physical manifestation. That was the mindset I was in.
>Through the course of questioning by the doctors, my assumptions were
>essentially trashed, and I was declared mentally ill and given
>medication which, by the way, tended to make my thoughts so fuzzy that
>I couldn't even properly organize or make sense of them. I felt much
>worse on the medication than off because it was like being in a dream,
>able to sense and perceive, but unable to understand or conceptualize.
>The more I thought about it, the more I realized that the mental
>health community is calling serious starseeds "delusional". Why? Do
>they know about starseeds and if they do, are they working with the
>government to silence the clarion call of the starseeds who are here
>to build the segue between the world as it is now and the world as it
>could be?
Those are HIS ravings?
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:29:16 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >No. I'm celibate. I'm no more interested in sex than having my
> >scrotum turned into a bonnet.
>
> You can't repress your genetic destiny forever.
Of course not. Genetics drives immortality. If I want to turn my
scrotum into a bonnet then, I'll do it. But right now, no thanks.
> >I'm not a fag.
>
> Humans cannot change their genetic wiring by wishing it.
That's true. It only seems like wishing, but it's really a game
between the quantum field and your mind. It lets you wish so you can
experience rejection, then get it as a gift. I don't have to change
my genetics with wishes. It happens automatically in the course of
being innocent.
> > Fine. But that has nothing to do with me. While I did
> > experiment once by being the "bottom" in gay anal sex, I didn't
> > like it, I've only done it once, and I'm never doing it again.
> > And I've never had my penis inside anybody's anus, man, woman or
> > child, and the only girls I ever had sex with was at 7 and 17.
> > I'm 38 now and haven't had any form of sexual contact with
> > another person since 1995, except for one groping incident with a
> > co-worker/friend of mine while we were at home in 1997. But
> > since nobody had their clothes off, I don't consider that actual
> > sex, just a momentary flirtation.
>
> You can't repress your genetic destiny forever.
Parrot. That's the problem with people like you. Your brain is so
small you can only think of one or two sentences to repeat throughout
a post...just like a parrot, parrot.
> >Oh, I better not die, then, or we all go up in smoke!
>
> Trust me, your death will be so unremarkable it won't even make the
> newspapers.
I know. It's because the newspapers will be stuffed up our asses as
we slide down a mountain into a pit of spiders.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> Yep. Bad wiring. Our best 'software' can handle minor problems
> associated with bad wiring. But NO 'software' that we currently have,
> and no humane chemistry and/or surgery, can handle seriously bad
> wiring.
That's because it's imperfect, like you.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:27:03 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
> >These all exclude allowances for the influence of the spirit,
>
> Fate is genetics. You can run and you can hide but your genetics will
> ALWAYS FIND YOU.
The spirit powers genetics. That's why they always find you. You
can't hide from the spirit.
> >Um.... We're all aware of that. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.
> >A conspiracy is just a bunch of people getting together to do bad
> >things.
>
> No. A conspiracy of ONE is still a conspiracy. Conspiracy to commit a
> crime is a crime.
It's funny that when you want to interpret my posts, you like to shove
your strict definitions down my throat. But when I use one of your
favorite words, and try to throw it back at you, suddenly the
definition becomes more flexible so you can bend it to your liking.
YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE!
CONSPIRACY
> 1. A planning and acting together secretly, esp. For an
> unlawful or harmful purpose, such as murder or treason
You can't do something together if there's only one person.
> 2. The plan agreed on; plot
You can't agree with only one person.
> 3. The group taking part in such a plan
Groups don't consist of one person.
> 4. A combining or working together [the conspiracy of events]
You can't work together with one person.
Moron.
> >I'm here to help everyone understand so we can all live forever.
>
> You're a lunatic.
I'm not, either.
Damaeus
Damaeus
That's because you're stupid.
> >>>In fact, if my estimates
> >>>regarding the prevalence of pedophilia based on what I've observed on
> >>>the Internet are true, then a majority of those who have pedophilic
> >>>feelings NEVER act on them except in their own fantasies.
> >>That is an absolutely RETARDED observation of absolutely NOTHING.
> >You're entitled to your own opinion, of course, but the opinions of a
> >bigoted, ignorant fool who cannot even understand what is being
> >discussed carry very little weight.
> >Do the math. Some studies have suggested that as much as 60% of the
> >population may well have pedophilic feelings
>
> Cite?
Pfft. Typical lazy ass. Don't order us to cite. You go do the
fucking research yourself.
It's not up to us to cite sources for our knowledge, especially when
it comes from the quantum field. If you want to understand, let your
mind interact with the quantum field and you can understand without
constantly replying saying how stupid you are.
> >Yet estimates of childhood sexual abuse suggest that only about 20% of
> >boys and 30% of girls are even solicited for sex while the actual
> >incidence of such is less.
>
> Yes, pedophilia is rare.
>
> >Meanwhile, you anti-ped idiots keep
> >claiming that an individual child molester molests hundred's of
> >children in his/her lifetime.
>
> That's based on THEIR ADMISSIONS, and somewhat verified by research.
It doesn't mean all are like that. This is the point. You're making
blanket accusations that all pedophiles act like the one described
above. They don't. DAMMIT! That's what you're too pigheaded, to
see.
> > The only valid conclusion that one can make of these statistics
> > is that actual child molestation is perpetrated by a very small
> > and very active number of the actual population of pedophiles;
> > the majority of people who are pedophiles or have some pedophilic
> > desires DO NOT have sexual relationships with children despite
> > their desires.
>
> That conclusion can't be considered valid until you first prove the
> existence of some large number of pedophiles in the population that
> have not committed pedophilia.
Do you realize how insane that idea is? Do you honestly expect anyone
to go knock on all the doors of America and ask everyone inside if
they're a pedophile that has just never had sex with kids? Besides,
posting messages like this one leaves you open to being shot, jailed,
and all kinds of stuff by ignorant people like you who don't know any
better. Nobody is going to answer a question like that, you fool!
Therefore your requirements for proving that some pedophiles don't
have sex with children is an unreasonable demand for proof.
> >>>>Better to remove them from the population before they hurt an innocent
> >>>>child.
> >>>Anyone claiming to be a "Patriot" ought to understand the simple
> >>>principle that no one can be punished for a crime that is never
> >>>committed.
> >>Apparently, while you were 'observing' genetic deviants tell lies on
> >>the Internet and keeping score, you MISSED the term "Conspiracy To
> >>Commit."
> >>Conspiracy to commit a crime IS A CRIME IN AND OF ITSELF.
> >Yes, conspiracy to commit a crime is indeed a crime. But conspiracy is
> >defined as "An agreement between two or more persons to engage jointly
> >in an unlawful or criminal act, or an act that is innocent in itself
> >but becomes unlawful when done by the combination of actors." If you
> >are suggesting that people here are committing a conspiracy to commit
> >child molestation, I would remind you that the majority of child
> >molestation cases involve a single perpetrator and are not done
> >"jointly."
>
> Is it legal for a child to have sex with an adult? No.
Well, generally true, but if the adult is asleep and the kid does
something, I don't think the adult should be blamed. He was asleep!
If he was only acting like he was asleep, that's a different
circumstance.
> Is it legal for an adult to have sex with a child? No.
True.
> Does the ACT of an adult CONSPIRING to INDUCE a CHILD into sex involve
> TWO PEOPLE (1 adult + 1 child)? Yes.
Wow, you're closer to God than I thought, and you're right, of course.
But then, in that case the child must be in on the conpiracy, so he's
conspiring against himself to be molested. He is consenting to sex,
in that case, so at least you're starting to recognize children's
rights to make their own decisions about what kind of adventures they
want to have in life. It's a case of "You can't rape the willing."
> Now you have a CONSPIRACY.
Yeah... and your own dirty little mind came up with it. And you call
ME a pervert??? Maybe you should see if you have fantasies of being a
little boy and being blackmailed into getting yourself sexed over on a
regular basis if you're that damned perverted.
> >Perhaps before you accuse people of something, you ought to actually
> >know and understand what you're accusing them of doing.
>
> I do.
Really?
> >It tends to make you look a lot less foolish.
>
> Yes, you do look foolish.
You say that AFTER coming up with a kinky child molestation conspiracy
scenario? Don't call me foolish. I see your ignorance for what it
is, and your deep-rooted desires for children bursting through in your
subconsious sex fantasies about them.
How the truth has come out. You monster!
I recognize how the conspiracy could be played out for fun as
immortals, but your mind is still stuck in the fleshly world, and so
is the secret porno slut fantasy you exposed to everyone in the
newsgroup.
Damaeus
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:00:13 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
> wrote:
> >In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
> >posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:33:34 -0400:
> >> Here's hoping that's the sound of the last breath leaving your body,
> >> that I'm there when it happens, and that my hand caused it.
> >Meh... I don't care who it is, ultimately. Even in my death, I'm sent
> >to a happy place away from you miserable people who enjoy living in
> >the Hell you've created that's so restrictive from what you were meant
> >to be that you aren't even aware of it! That's the sad part is that
> >you don't realize how much happier your life could be if you stopped
> >hating so much.
>
> When I have my lawn care crew apply weed killer and pesticide to my
> lawn I am not hating my lawn, I'm not hating the weeds, and I'm not
> hating the bugs.
Lawns, weeds and bugs aren't pedophiles. Stay on topic, if your
psychotic brain can stay focused on one track long enough, that is.
> Exterminating the genetic mutants from our population is no different.
You're a genetic mutant, too. Just a different kind. Maybe
pedophiles should exterminate those who hate them so they can live
happily ever after without you people interfering. It won't hurt.
You'll all be dead, anyway, so you won't have to suffer seeing kids
having sex.
> The ONLY reason you think you're human is because you LOOK human. That
> only makes you HUMANOID, not necessarily human.
That's only a mental construct carried forward from the Dark Ages,
used by people to judge others who were different from them. They
assumed things like, "Since you're not like me, you must not be
human."
That is where your ignorance is shining through in that remark. You're
showing that your mind is in the Dark Ages.
> >> >But if the sex is something that wasn't forced and the kid wanted it,
> >> Children are incapable of participating in consensual situations
> >> regarding sexual relationships.
> >Yes, you parroted someone else's rhetoric before and I'm sick of
> >hearing you tell me what someone else said. Speak your mind or fuck
> >off, dimwit!
>
> I already spoke my mind.
That shows how weak you are. I tell you to speak your mind, and you
sit in your computer chair babbling incoherently to yourself, aloud,
then you post to the newsgroup saying you did just that...but then you
tried to deceive us all by saying you just "spoke" your mind, not that
you babbled and slobbered and ate your boogers and whatnot. That's
why you're crazy!
> You're a lunatic. Humankind would be improved if you ceased to
> exist.
I don't think that's true, but I'll remember that quote and refer to
it when I talk about the stupid people I've met in my life.
> If that can occur prior to your procreating all the better.
I don't procreate. I'm celibate.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> Empty message.....
Yeah, you didn't want to reply to it after posting your secret fantasy
about boys being mind-controlled into conspiring against themselves to
be molested. My response is a post you no longer agreed with because
it hates pedophiles too much in that one paragraph and strikes at the
heart of who you really are as a human.
Damaeus
Damaeus
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:43:49 -0400, Patriot Games
> <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>
> >Yep. Bad wiring. Our best 'software' can handle minor problems
> >associated with bad wiring. But NO 'software' that we currently have,
> >and no humane chemistry and/or surgery, can handle seriously bad
> >wiring.
Hence your continued delusion. You don't believe anything can fix
your brain, so you blame it on bad wiring, then solifidy that belief
even further by saying it's set in stone.
> > > Why? Do they know about starseeds and if they do, are they
> > > working with the government to silence the clarion call of the
> > > starseeds who are here to build the segue between the world as it
> > > is now and the world as it could be?
> >
> >Those are HIS ravings?
Ravings? That is a calm, rational explanation of my own emergence
from unmedicated psychosis. I'm a weirdo. That post is still true
today.
Besides, I'm already well-known by the entire sheriff's department in
this town of only 6000 people. I've even shot the sheriff's gun at
the county's shooting range, and I shot the silhouette once in the
shoulder and five times in the heart, much to my own amazement, never
having shot a gun before. I had seen another guy shoot before me, and
he tried to fire off a bunch of rounds at once, but he was all over
the target. The sheriff explained to him that he missed so much
because the recoil had his gun all over the place, and he wasn't
giving his hand enough time to stabilize after each round. So when I
got my turn, I was off a bit on the first shot, but I remembered what
the sheriff had told the other guy. So I shot the sillhoutte in the
heart the next five times, and even the sheriff was impressed. I
guess he must have assumed I was a pro at shooting because he didn't
even compliment me on how well I'd done.
I've lived here for nearly 30 years with a family who has lived here
since 1960, and who have more respect in this county than I even know
about. Lord only knows what they're capable of. I live with their
son, and he talks about them like they're gods in the governmental
world. They know I'm harmless. I know I'm harmless. How do I know?
Take this example:
We, in America, know that we would never do anything wrong to take
advantage of another country. That's what everyone thinks, it seems.
And we believe we're always right, here in America. And I have
confidence in America that they won't start a war unjustly. Yet, when
other countries claim the same thing, we don't believe them.
I feel about my body the way a patriot feels about America. America
is always right. I feel that I am always right. When I say I don't
touch boys, I mean that in the same way that a patriot means what he
says when he believes in America.
I was born in America, I've driven down highways in most of the
states, and I've been to British Columbia and Ontario on vacations.
I've never been to Mexico or anywhere else outside the states. I'm
happy in America, mostly for its free discussions. Unfortunately,
mostly I just find people defending their right to be God when they
are.
Anyway, since this family is my bread and butter (they pay my car note
($525 a month)), they gave me a gasoline card to buy gas if I'm ever
short on cash, they ***GIVE*** me a place to live ***FOR FREE*** and I
don't even have to buy groceries, or pay any electricity bills, or
water. I take as many showers a day as it takes to keep my butthole
clean because I hate taking a shit and wiping my ass with dry toilet
paper. So when I'm done taking a shit, I squat in the shower and
douche my pucker hole with a shower hose so ALL the shit is gone. You,
on the other hand, probably are happy with a shitty ass, as you walk
around town disgusting me with visions of your fingers fucking the
shitty hole between your ass crack as you try to figure out why it
always itches so fucking much. I, on the other hand, can sit here and
entertain myself with my own humor, laughing my butt off at you, but
mostly at myself, because I do this for my own entertainment, because
I can. If that makes you uncomfortable, perhaps you need to loosen up
on your beliefs about life just a little bit and start seeing things
in a funner way, god-d...@your.asshole.with.a.bolt.of.lightning.com.
(And yes, I know people want to spell "dammit" as "damnit", but
"dammit" looks funnier, so I spell it that way. If you don't like it,
bitch about it, and I'll make you look stupid.)
My friend tells me to enjoy myself. When I run short on cash from
working 25-30 hours a week, he pays for my insurance, too. He
constantly is asking me if I need any money for anything, and when I
say no, he says, "Well, if you need any money, just let me know." When
we go out to eat, my friend always insists on paying for my meals for
me so I won't have to spend my own money. Of course, we rarely go out
to eat, so I don't have to experience too often the displeasure of
having someone do something nice for me. I hate that shit.
I have a computer here that I built with top-of-the-line computer
parts, and my friend paid for it all when I said the one I already had
wasn't quite good enough for graphic design school. My old CPU didn't
have the proper instruction set that was required by the Adobe
software, and my old motherboard wouldn't take any more upgrades. I
had to build a new computer, or $30,000 in college tuition he cosigned
for would be down the toilet.
So. You might ask why the fuck am I living so high on the hog while
the rest of you slave your asses off to barely make ends meet? It's
because I think of the feelings and the needs of others FIRST, instead
of my own, and when asked for help, I give until it is painful to give
any more. What little money I make, I spend on gas, food, and a
little cannabis each week, which I take straight home and leave it
there, and only smoke in the privacy of my own bedroom, totally out of
view of the public, and out of everyone's lives except those who
choose to come.
Should I leave the house stoned, it's usually just to run up to the
gas station to get a drink or to get a Big Mac.
And since cannabis does nothing to cause bad behavior, I am absolved
of any damage to society as a result of my consumption of marijuana.
Having become such a stoner, those who rant against pot got their
wish. I'm totally apathetic and couldn't care less what happens in
the world as long as I can sit here and get high. The *ONLY* thing I
do is work and stay home, and occasionally sit down at a restaurant
after work to eat, but even that is becoming a bore, so I won't even
bother with that, now. So basically I'm happily under house arrest
and I did it to myself just by being nice.
Concerning my choice to give up restaurants, most of the food I get at
restaurants looks like it came out of a dumpster, anyway. I went to
one restaurant in three weeks the other day, because I figured having
eaten so much shit lately, I might like to have a nice salad. I
figured the grilled chicken salad sounded good, so I ordered one, and
a bowl of cheezy potato soup. I love creamy foods, you see, and
potato soup is one of my favorites, especially with the little bacon
bits and the green onions on top. (I bet you figured I only ate
sperm. Ass.)
Anyway, when I got the salad, it looked weird to begin with. I found
three "objects". The first object was something that looked like it
came out of an aquarium at Sea World, except it had a damaged area on
it that also made it look like it had been used to clean someone's
ass. The second object was a large lettuce leaf that had darkened
mushy areas, red areas, and generally looked like it had been used as
a potholder in the kitchen. And the final object, which I've saved
for last, was a slimy strip of goo about an inch and a half long, dark
brown on most of it, with a lighter colored streak. It appeared to be
the contents of the entrail of a large shrimp that had been scraped
out and placed upon my otherwise ... "festive" ... salad, to describe
it without being needlessly cruel. I managed to force the grilled
chicken down that didn't look like it was made out of joints and
cartilage, and pushed the rest away. Even the potato soup looked
expired and had the texture of runny, but partially dehydrated instant
prepared grits.
If I get bored with this, the only other thing I could think of to do
for fun would be run for president. With all this on the internet,
it's sure to make a media storm. Actually, I'm seriously considering
running for 2012. If this all comes out, I'm sure to be a target for
assassination. I see political trends. I see the seams of
controversy forming. I think I can win, even though I've never
actually held a public office. So you don't have to come looking for
me. As you can see by the length of my post, I have plenty of time to
digress into other areas on even a slight interest in exploring new
areas that come up in conversation. It's like driving down the
highway and you see a road you really want to go down and explore, but
you know you have responsibilities. You must go home and be there.
When I begin my campaign, the topic of pedophilia is sure to come up,
and I'll discuss these issues as openly in public and in front of
crowds as I have in this newsgroup. This is one reason I'm leaving a
clear history of my intent to rile the world, crash the economy, and
expand all the amusement parks in America until they touch each other.
It's my goal to have a nice, smooth rollercoaster that takes at least
three hours to complete. I'm tired of paying $35-40 to go to Six
Flags, only to find that I have to wait in line for three hours to
ride a fucking rollercoaster that lasts for only three minutes. So
I'm going to see that we turn that around and have a three-hour
rollercoaster that you only have to wait three minutes to ride.
Wouldn't that make the world a happier place?
Anyway, until I can get started on my campaign, whatever money I have
in my pocket beyond that, anything goes. I'm sort of broke now... all
my credit cards are over the limit and past due, my checking account
is $300 in the hole, and I'm not very good at finding ways to make
money, but once I get a plan together, I'll start a campaign.
I don't wander through my day hoping to give all my money away, but
when someone needs it, and I feel like doing it with a nice cheer, I
do it. If I don't feel like it, I don't. I think those are spiritual
signals, guiding us into suggestions on what to do next. Not
commandments. Just little games in reality.
One day I drove up to an old man I'd seen a few times before. He had
just gotten a little money from the person in front of me, and had
turned around to sit back down when I called him over and gave him
another $5.00. The look on his face was like he'd just experiened a
miracle. I gave it to him with a huge, honest laugh right from the
heart, handed him the money with a huge smile that I really felt, and
he turned and it was like magic. It was beautiful. That's why Jesus
said you shouldn't do what you hate because it harms your spirit. That
means that the spirit of the person you're trying to impress by doing
something you hate in an attempt to please your higher power, you are,
in fact, bringing upon yourself a kind of strange sort of weird kind
of sensations that can seem like you're going to do some kind of
strange thing that lets your mind wander around for a minute and
reorganize things so that your thinking might be a little more
reorganized and you can understand this better.
My giving of money doesn't happen a lot. But in a couple of months I
gave away about $40-45 in gas money. I'm not trying to brag. I'm
just trying to demonstrate the kind of life you can have, simply by
thinking of others first, and always being as honest as you can be.
Sure, it involves some painful experiences, but if you're honest from
the start, the pain is spread out. Those who have had secret
fantasies about children they have never acted on are probably some of
the ones spouting the hate. They feel superior, somehow, that they
are able to resist, while *ALL* others are weak. I tell you that's
not so. Everyone has fantasies about what they believe to be
children. Everyone. It's just that their fantasies don't involve
anyone getting hurt because everything that is happening, everyone is
enjoying. If you don't admit to that, you are a liar.
Those who try to get through life by lying to cover up things they
want hidden from others are harming their spirits, because the spirit
is eternal, and one thing it wants more than anything is to get
fucked. Your body language reveals to others what you are unable to
say with your mouth, ball-scratchng dick-squeezer, so stop being a
liar and admit your fantasies. Don't act on them. That's for later,
when everybody is immortal and we all know what the fuck is going on
around this shit-blasted fuck-bladder called Earth.
That's why I can say what I want, and nobody up there gives a fuck.
That's why I can come on here and have all the fun I want fucking with
you idiots. My own trip out of psychosis gave me a very unique view
of the human race, and I can see things you cannot. That YOU cannot
see that leaves me with absolute power over this conversation. There
is no way on earth you can explain your way out of anything where I am
concerned. So fuck off.
> Indeed..
>
> this is the horse's mouth in action although you may be forgiven for
> thinking they come from the other end.
That's impossible. My ass doesn't have a tongue, and even if it did,
I wouldn't talk out of it because I don't like to offend people with
bad breath, unlike some of you barbarians who walk up to me and
breathe all over me like I'm some kind of air freshener. Get the fuck
away from me with the toxic waste fumes from the anchovy factory
between your wife's legs blowing out of your mouth at my face like the
breeze of death from the CryptKeeper's vomitorium.
I like to speak clearly, and my butthole has not grown any teeth yet.
I'm expecting to grow teeth in my prostate gland, however, so I can
chew my food when I shove it down my peehole. I thought I could eat
through my dick once, so I squirted some Veg-All down in there. I
nearly blacked out when a little english pea got stuck in my bladder.
That was my version of a kidney stone, I guess. Anyway, I stormed
around the house in a panic because I needed to pee, but nothing would
come out. I broke out into hives, started seeing spots before my
eyes. I nearly blacked out, too. I fell to the floor, but managed to
shove a towel under me. I dry-heaved as my head felt like it was
going to explode. As I did that, the english pea popped out and I
pissed all over myself. The hives went away after a while. Needless
to say, I learned my lesson there. No more food down the peehole. I
used a telephone wire instead and nearly got the whole thing all
tangled up in there. I got a massive testicle infection out of that,
and my left nut swelled up to the size of a fucking orange, and the
one time I tried to masturbate and ejaculated a huge blast of blood.
For a whole two weeks, even the slightest touch to my left nut was
agonizing. For a while, it was fine. Then it started throbbing
intermittently, and hanging in a funny way. Now it hangs weird so it
gets hung up and I rack myself on it quite occasionally.
> Forgive the lack of an URL ..but this self-proclaimed *superman*
I admit to not being so humble online. But the way I see it, by
discussing things online and going through all the emotions by
imagining what you must be thinking, I get ALL of my anger out, just
by pretending *AND* learning. You, on the other hand, refuse to
learn. You choose, instead, to stand still in your rigid beliefs and
simply parrot the words of others, word-for-word. That's why I can
reply with reams of information to your one tiny point of view. I see
more than you do. You can't see what I see, so you think I'm an
idiot. I'll give you a simple example:
I tell you that in my house, I have human flesh. You call me a
psychopath. You never consider that by "house" I might have been
imitating Jesus and speaking in parables. In that context, my house
is my physical body, where you would naturally find human
flesh...right where it belongs, alive and well. To say something like
that in public might seem risky, but with this explanation (which I
have been figuring you would delete just so you can take that one
sentence out of context and report it to the authorities and cost them
time and money investigating me). It's just that in this forum of
text-only, we can't actually see each other, sit down, drink coffee,
and have an intelligent conversation. We scream at each other with
text using wild language, threats, insults, and rhetoric. It's
useful. It gets the message across (at least to me, because I believe
everything I see), and it's fun! That's why I do it. I learn a lot
about debating and degrading people textually. It keeps the mind
snappy and the comedy flowing. I say what I want online, only when
I'm certain I can explain it with confidence in person. By that time,
it's so ingrained into my mind and the universe that it no longer
matters.
> is being investigated as to certain suspected proclivities and it is
> thought better he remain in ignorance as to how it has been
> unearthed..
LOL, I've already talked to the FBI, myself. They called me from
Dallas and asked where I was. I told them I was in Bellingham,
Washington. They asked when I was coming back to Dallas, and I said I
wasn't. (I had moved Bellingham because my friend and I went up there
on vacation, and I just loved all the mountains and hiking trails. I
had always liked MacGyver on TV
We talked for a few minutes, and I closed by telling them if they ever
needed any help with anything, to just give me a call. They said
they'd be in touch. The guys they said were "up here" would be
contacting me. They haven't yet. I guess they saw I was harmless,
just like everybody else in my life has.
Do you know I literally have no enemies? I hate to sound corny, but
I'm a nice guy! And I keep my hands to myself. Ask my co-workers. I
don't like being touched, and I don't touch others. I think touching
someone without their explicit permission is an absolute sin, and when
it happens to me, I come unglued. I freeze up and go up on my toes. I
hate being touched by humans so much that I make it a point not to
have friends, just so I can avoid being touched at all costs. When I
talk to others, and we're in an open space, I want them at least six
feet away from me. In closed spaces, I'm understanding, but very
conscious of my space. In those cases, I tolerate violation of my
space without blaming the touchers. When you tell someone it's their
fault, it's like an accusation of character:
"You dare to molest my magnificent body?! Unhand me, you peasant!"
Not I. As much as my natural reaction is to shriek in horror when
touched, in closed spaces, I'm in full control of myself, and I'm
perfectly capable of making clean or lewd jokes to keep everyone in a
good humor about our unsavory situation until it's over.
In my life, I've never been punched in the face by a man, and I've
never been slapped in the face by a woman. That's because I'm a
gentleman, and I do *NOT* touch boys.
In that I have turned my life into an experience of having the
experience of really feeling your perception evolve as you sit and
look at an object or consider an idea, I have learned so much about
myself and the universe, that I have so much of a fantastic time just
being alive, that I don't care what I do. Just doing what comes
naturally falls right smack in the middle of both man's laws, and the
universe's laws. So just by doing what comes naturally, I'm as free
as I can be, and still living right and proper under the eyes of God
and man. And the best part is, I don't have to walk around with that
stupid-assed plastic fuckhole smile people are deluded into believeing
they have to wear on their faces all the time. I walk around looking
exactly how I want to look: spaced out. Because I am. It's not that
I'm spaced out. It's that I'm so comfortable believing in myself, I
don't care what people think. I have the confidence to fly, but I
don't want to. I'm perfectly happy dragging my feet around all day
wherever I go, looking weak, timid, depressed, sad. And people leave
me alone. And I like that. Do you know why? What they don't realize
is that I'm so god-damned happy inside that I just let myself relax
and I just look like I'm about to fall over. And I get what I want.
I'm left alone, and I'm happy. But that's because I just don't like
the way I look.
> AS he claims to always reply honestly to such inferior creatures as
> ourselves..no doubt he will confirm it himself..
I'm confirming it. I don't think you're inferior, though. Just
deluded. The thing about delusional thinking is that the thought
cycles are so tightly constricted with the same few thoughts over and
over, that the person literally has no control over their own actions.
God literally has to come down and take over their bodies and operate
them himself to maintain as much peace as possible. So when they
stand up and say that God made them do it, they were right. He did.
It's just that people who believe in God don't seem to want to believe
that he would take over someone's body and make them murder other
people, but who knows what God is like? People wonder what God is
like, and they assume he's good. Maybe he's an evil bastard come to
take over the planet, and he's taking over people's bodies and making
them do strange things.
As one who has gained control over my own actions, I'm no longer
locked in the same thought cycles you're locked in. I'm free to make
my own decisions. I don't claim that God is in control of me. I
claim to be aware of God while making my own decisions, and taking
responsibility for them, including the responsibility for posting
these messages publicly. I knew full-well what I was getting into
coming into this, and I was laughing hysterically.
I think you're equal to me. I just see that you don't see that, so I
took advantage of it. Originally I posted in this thread to get a
rise out of making what I perceived as closed-minded, but growing
people pissed as hell at me, and mad enough to come hunt me down and
chop my nuts off. Why? Because I don't care.
> If not ..no matter
>
> The point is not to triumph in any Usenet flame war as he seems
> to believe..
You've said it yourself. You said, "What I 'seem' to believe." You've
admitted in one fucking sentence that you are not able to get inside
my head and see the world the way I do. So you have no clue what my
"point" is in posting this message.
> If he is a harmless lunatic fair enough..if he is criminally insane
> and active that is another matter entirely IMHO..
And it's not a matter for you to decide. I live my life, I say what I
want. When I violate your life, you respond in kind. Since all I've
done is post messages on usenet, that's all I expect to hear out of
you.
Damaeus
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:12:08 -0400:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:27:03 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> >These all exclude allowances for the influence of the spirit,
>> Fate is genetics. You can run and you can hide but your genetics will
>> ALWAYS FIND YOU.
>The spirit powers genetics. That's why they always find you. You
>can't hide from the spirit.
You're a lunatic.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:28:23 -0400:
>> >claiming that an individual child molester molests hundred's of
>> >children in his/her lifetime.
>> That's based on THEIR ADMISSIONS, and somewhat verified by research.
>It doesn't mean all are like that. This is the point. You're making
>blanket accusations that all pedophiles act like the one described
>above. They don't. DAMMIT! That's what you're too pigheaded, to
>see.
Try to pay attention. An ALCOHOLIC does not have to be drinking to be
an alcoholic. Because alcoholism has a confirmed genetic component we
can accurately say that alcoholics are BORN, and are alcoholics FOR
LIFE.
Exactly the SAME thing is true of pedophiles. Merely controlling your
physical actions DOES NOT change your genetic pre-wired
predispositions.
It should be entirely OBVIOUS ESPECIALLY TO YOU that YOUR
age-inappropriate thoughts, desires and urges are PROOF that you are
HARD-WIRED for pedophilia.
>> Is it legal for a child to have sex with an adult? No.
>Well, generally true, but if the adult is asleep and the kid does
>something, I don't think the adult should be blamed. He was asleep!
>If he was only acting like he was asleep, that's a different
>circumstance.
>> Is it legal for an adult to have sex with a child? No.
>True.
>> Does the ACT of an adult CONSPIRING to INDUCE a CHILD into sex involve
>> TWO PEOPLE (1 adult + 1 child)? Yes.
>Wow, you're closer to God than I thought, and you're right, of course.
>But then, in that case the child must be in on the conpiracy, so he's
>conspiring against himself to be molested. He is consenting to sex,
>in that case, so at least you're starting to recognize children's
>rights to make their own decisions about what kind of adventures they
>want to have in life. It's a case of "You can't rape the willing."
Children are intellectually incapable of consenting, but they are
rather easily INDUCED.
>> Now you have a CONSPIRACY.
>Yeah... and your own dirty little mind came up with it.
Your projections cannot change YOUR predispositions.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:38:54 -0400:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:00:13 -0500, Damaeus <no-...@hotmail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>> >In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>> >posted on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:33:34 -0400:
>> >> Here's hoping that's the sound of the last breath leaving your body,
>> >> that I'm there when it happens, and that my hand caused it.
>> >Meh... I don't care who it is, ultimately. Even in my death, I'm sent
>> >to a happy place away from you miserable people who enjoy living in
>> >the Hell you've created that's so restrictive from what you were meant
>> >to be that you aren't even aware of it! That's the sad part is that
>> >you don't realize how much happier your life could be if you stopped
>> >hating so much.
>> When I have my lawn care crew apply weed killer and pesticide to my
>> lawn I am not hating my lawn, I'm not hating the weeds, and I'm not
>> hating the bugs.
>Lawns, weeds and bugs aren't pedophiles. Stay on topic, if your
>psychotic brain can stay focused on one track long enough, that is.
>> Exterminating the genetic mutants from our population is no different.
>You're a genetic mutant, too. Just a different kind.
No. A mutation is a (genetic) change FROM something (called a
parental type).
The original (heterosexual) is NOT the mutation, this is obvious in
that 96% of humans are heterosexual and something like 99% of humans
are NOT pedophiles.
>> The ONLY reason you think you're human is because you LOOK human. That
>> only makes you HUMANOID, not necessarily human.
>That's only a mental construct carried forward from the Dark Ages,
>used by people to judge others who were different from them. They
>assumed things like, "Since you're not like me, you must not be
>human."
The facts are what they are.
The more we understand the critical role genetic mutations have on the
development of the human mind the more we understand that looking
human is NOT all there is to being human.
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Patriot Games <Pat...@America.Com>
>posted on Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:39:56 -0400:
>> Empty message.....
No, it was an actual EMPTY message. Nothing in it. The body of the
message apparently got lost.
Patriot Games
wrote:
Perfection is irrelevant.
Its about Normal versus Abnormal.
Patriot Games
<us...@example.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:43:49 -0400, Patriot Games
>this is the horse's mouth in action although you may be forgiven for
>thinking they come from the other end.
>Forgive the lack of an URL ..but this self-proclaimed *superman*
>thought better he remain in ignorance as to how it has been
>unearthed..
>ourselves..no doubt he will confirm it himself..
>The point is not to triumph in any Usenet flame war as he seems
>to believe..
>and active that is another matter entirely IMHO..
My opinion too!
Patriot Games
wrote:
>In news:alt.activism.children, Brandon D Cartwright <us...@example.net>
>posted on Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:17:39 -0700:
>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:43:49 -0400, Patriot Games
>> <Pat...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >Yep. Bad wiring. Our best 'software' can handle minor problems
>> >associated with bad wiring. But NO 'software' that we currently have,
>> >and no humane chemistry and/or surgery, can handle seriously bad
>> >wiring.
>Hence your continued delusion. You don't believe anything can fix
>your brain, so you blame it on bad wiring, then solifidy that belief
>even further by saying it's set in stone.
Try to pay attention. "Bad wiring," the result of abnormal
development based on a genetic mutation, is UNFIXABLE. That same bad
wiring is the root cause of abnormal thoughts, urges, desires. Those
abnormal thoughts, urges and desires CANNOT humanely be eliminated.
That part IS "set in stone" based on our current knowledge and
technology.
Controlling HOW YOU RESPOND to those abnormal thoughts, urges and
desires is a DIFFERENT matter entirely.
As YOU make clear YOU have invented an entire personal psychology,
philosophy and religion, which includes celibacy, all to explain
yourself to yourself and to control how you respond to your abnormal
thoughts, urges and desires.
Fine. I'm glad that works for you.
Damaeus
> No. A mutation is a (genetic) change FROM something (called a
> parental type).
From a parental type into what? Just "something else" or are all
mutations into pedophiles? Answer honestly so we see all.
> The original (heterosexual) is NOT the mutation, this is obvious in
> that 96% of humans are heterosexual and something like 99% of humans
> are NOT pedophiles.
That is only what they've been taught to be by society. It in no way
means it's what they were meant to be.
> The facts are what they are.
>
> The more we understand the critical role genetic mutations have on the
> development of the human mind the more we understand that looking
> human is NOT all there is to being human.
Okay. Then until we figure out what that is, why not stop treating
all pedophiles as rapists until we find out what's going on?
Damaeus
4s00th
wrote:
>Simulcast here because the idjit posted there, too. I figured I might
>as well pretend to be a monkey and do what he did. Oh well. Sue me
>for wasting quantum folds:
>
>In news:alt.activism.children, "Alan B. Mac Farlane" <al...@sonic.net>
>posted on Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:51:22 -0700:
>
>> ya ya
>
>Well, don't just sit there waiting in the la la. Take your ya ya and
>go!
>
>
>Uh. Since this is a slow group, I'll have to explain the
>multi-layered symbology employed in this humor by my superior
>intellect.
>
>He replied with "ya ya" as a bitch-assed reply to my post.
>
>I needed something that would relate to him being mentally incompetent
>(la la land), be clean for any kids who might happen to read it in
>case it was so funny as to be forwarded to a website for a prize or
>comical feature, and also humiliate him out of the newsgroup. Well,
>since the "la la" was also a waiting room, the ya ya had to be a
>person, in this case, symbolizing the ideas contained within his
>person. So I came up with the above reply. Isn't that cool how that
>works? That's why he's an idiot, and I'm not.
>
>That's also why this newsgroup is loaded with idiots who don't even
>know they're idiots. That makes them easy targets for verbal abuse
>that's comical, just because it's so open, honest, and deserving to be
>ladled over those with holy brains. If I didn't think you could take
>the impact of my words, which is only 10% of what I'm able to
>communicate behind this computer screen, I wouldn't post. But since I
>know the other 90% of your physiological reaction to reading my words
>is your own imagination, I post with glee knowing that any mental
>anguish has resulted from your own brain's reaction to something you
>chose to read under your own power. Therefore, I'm totally absolved
>of responsibility. You're mad, it's your fault.
>
>We've all known since grade school that sticks and stones break your
>bones, but names will never hurt you. That goes for usenet posts,
>too. So fuck off, shit hole!
>
>Damaeus
Oh, well, I'm ...
Sittin' here in ya-ya, waitin' for my la-la, ahum!
If you send email, I will reply to it here at asbl
(without showing your email addy)
unless you ask me not to.
Damaeus
> Try to pay attention. An ALCOHOLIC does not have to be drinking to be
> an alcoholic. Because alcoholism has a confirmed genetic component we
> can accurately say that alcoholics are BORN, and are alcoholics FOR
> LIFE.
We're not talking about alcoholics. And the "assumption" that you can
"accurately" say that comes from your state of delusion. You believe
so much in the hard-wiring of your brain that anything which goes
against that belief goes against your grain.
> Exactly the SAME thing is true of pedophiles. Merely controlling your
> physical actions DOES NOT change your genetic pre-wired
> predispositions.
And yet *all* of these "genetically predisposed" alcoholics never
drink. Only some do. If you're going to use your alcohol example and
then apply it to pedophiles, I have the right to do the same thing
using your same two vantage points. And by using the same conditions
for both of your examples, I have defeated your position utterly:
Since genetic predisposition to alcoholism doesn't always result in
the mutant drinking alcohol, the pedophile mutants are not always
going to fall prey to their own genetic imperfections.
So a generalized statement of fact, then, is that while genetic
mutations result in eccentric behavior, man's laws and the way we've
set society up plays a part in keeping everyone acting in generally
the same ways, with some variance for taste, style and purpose, and
with a handful of mutants flying way outside the bounds of man's laws,
utterly. Those, treat how you want. The rest, (like me), leave them
the fuck alone. Until I've actually done something to hurt someone
with my body, stay away from me. I'm innocent. I'm so fucking
sensitive I feel guilty washing the occasionaly water bug down the
drain in the shower. He's just living his life, and yet I don't want
him crawling all over me. So I executed the cockroach. So at least
treat me like I treated the cockroach. If I come into your house
without your permission, kill me. It's what's meant by "don't pull
the trigger until you see the whites of their eyes." In other words,
don't assume that you should hate someone, just based on what they say
when you cannot see their eyes.
> It should be entirely OBVIOUS ESPECIALLY TO YOU that YOUR
> age-inappropriate thoughts, desires and urges are PROOF that you are
> HARD-WIRED for pedophilia.
Fine. I don't know that for a fact, and neither do you until we get
some DNA and start running some tests, which I sure as hell am not
paying for, because I know there's nothing wrong with me, and I don't
do anything wrong.
> >Wow, you're closer to God than I thought, and you're right, of course.
> >But then, in that case the child must be in on the conpiracy, so he's
> >conspiring against himself to be molested. He is consenting to sex,
> >in that case, so at least you're starting to recognize children's
> >rights to make their own decisions about what kind of adventures they
> >want to have in life. It's a case of "You can't rape the willing."
>
> Children are intellectually incapable of consenting, but they are
> rather easily INDUCED.
Then your conspiracy example doesn't work because the kid is outside
of it, therefore by your own example, you're defeated again because
you've placed the kid back outside the conpiracy into a state of
induction. So, once again, this is not a conspiracy to commit a
crime, what I'm doing here. I'm just one person expressing my
thoughts. No more. No less.
> >> Now you have a CONSPIRACY.
> >Yeah... and your own dirty little mind came up with it.
>
> Your projections cannot change YOUR predispositions.
Nor can your projections change your predisposition to stupidity.
Damaeus