> issued for *multiple counts* of child molestation.
> oy fucking vey.
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the guy is sick and pathetic!! maybe someone will help him to succeed with that whole notion of suicide should he no longer be able to have kids in his life? guess one could only hope....
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> that was issued this afternoon. Mark G. is his attorney - he is in Modesto > and will be in Santa Barbara tomorrow - the bail is three million and he > will probably be processed and bailed out tomorrow - if he makes it that > far. I predicted last time that if he got as far as being arrested there > would be a suicide. I still see that as a strong possibility. He has > definitely said that if he can no long have "children in his life" then he > would die.
> > issued for *multiple counts* of child molestation.
> > oy fucking vey
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> that was issued this afternoon. Mark G. is his attorney - he is in Modesto > and will be in Santa Barbara tomorrow - the bail is three million and he > will probably be processed and bailed out tomorrow - if he makes it that > far. I predicted last time that if he got as far as being arrested there > would be a suicide. I still see that as a strong possibility. He has > definitely said that if he can no long have "children in his life" then he > would die.
> > issued for *multiple counts* of child molestation.
> > oy fucking vey
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> I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and > imprisoned I'll show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the > coldest day of the year...
> There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law was > changed as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't > pull out and make deal for money.................. That'll e a > real pisser for Mike's lawyers I bet ;-)
Apparently there's video evidence of some kind. My prediction: overdose.
> that was issued this afternoon. Mark G. is his attorney - he is in Modesto > and will be in Santa Barbara tomorrow - the bail is three million and he > will probably be processed and bailed out tomorrow - if he makes it that > far. I predicted last time that if he got as far as being arrested there > would be a suicide.
Hmmmm. I was thinking he'd skip to France or somewhere. Isn't there some famous child molester wanted in the US who's living there? Shar
> > issued for *multiple counts* of child molestation.
> > oy fucking vey
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> > that was issued this afternoon. Mark G. is his attorney - he is in > Modesto > > and will be in Santa Barbara tomorrow - the bail is three million and he > > will probably be processed and bailed out tomorrow - if he makes it that > > far. I predicted last time that if he got as far as being arrested there > > would be a suicide.
> Hmmmm. I was thinking he'd skip to France or somewhere. Isn't there some > famous child molester wanted in the US who's living there? > Shar
yeah, those french people are soooo strange, all they are talking about all day on all tv channels and radio is about the deads and wounded from the bombing in turkey !!!!
> "windswept" <windsw...@asarian-host.net> wrote: > > that was issued this afternoon. Mark G. is his attorney - he is > > in Modesto and will be in Santa Barbara tomorrow - the bail is > > three million and he will probably be processed and bailed out > > tomorrow - if he makes it that far. I predicted last time that if he > > got as far as being arrested there would be a suicide.
> Hmmmm. I was thinking he'd skip to France or somewhere. Isn't > there some famous child molester wanted in the US who's living > there?
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snip > I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that the chance > for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. MG may be > bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to risk his entire > career for one client.
> It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten alive in the arena by the lions
your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am considering highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> > I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and imprisoned > I'll > > show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day of the > > year...
> > There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> > And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law was > changed > > as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't pull out and > > make deal for money.................. That'll e a real pisser for > Mike's > > lawyers I bet ;-)
> > > Yet. I'll be astonished if he's actually convicted and imprisoned.
> > > Catherine
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> > > I can give excellent guidence if he needs it....... it entails, lots > > > of aspirin, a warm bath and a razor blade.
> > I'm willing to draw the bath and provide the blades and aspirin.
> It is a genrally held view that those who talk of and threaten suicide are > in fact looking for help and seldom carry out the threat, the one case where > that didn't work for me, when I said "If you do I shall be very upset and > sad.... but I can't follow you around all day" he waited till I was at the > bottom of the stairs then jumped three floors landing in the stairwell area > just ahead of me, with a sickening thud. It took him two hours to stop > twitching and choking to death, and I took a month off on sick leave.
> Asa
two hours, that's long..
my sister attempt suicide three times, i was living in another country then, my mother and brother took their courage and called and asked me to come back for a visit to take care of the situation, the psychiatrist wanted to talk with all of us. i went there and before my meeting with the psychiatrist i asked to see her. she was there standing in front of me ashamed, i just told her, please next time call me so that i make sure that you won't miss you again. she never tried it after that, wonder why. for the only time in my life i was offering her my help she didn't took it.
> "windswept" <windsw...@asarian-host.net> a écrit dans le message de news: > 1436b4eb2c4f711aa253d.6fa2727807...@asarian-host.net... > > X-No-Archive: Yes
> snip > > I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that the > chance > > for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> > I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. MG may be > > bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to risk his > entire > > career for one client.
> > It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
> yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten alive in the > arena by the lions
> your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am considering > highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> > > I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and imprisoned > > I'll > > > show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day of the > > > year...
> > > There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> > > And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law was > > changed > > > as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't pull out > and > > > make deal for money.................. That'll e a real pisser for > > Mike's > > > lawyers I bet ;-)
> > > > Yet. I'll be astonished if he's actually convicted and imprisoned.
> > > > Catherine
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> "windswept" <windsw...@asarian-host.net> a écrit dans le message de news: > 1436b4eb2c4f711aa253d.6fa2727807...@asarian-host.net... > > X-No-Archive: Yes
> snip > > I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that the > chance > > for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> > I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. MG may be > > bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to risk his > entire > > career for one client.
> > It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
> yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten alive in the > arena by the lions
> your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am considering > highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> > > I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and imprisoned > > I'll > > > show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day of the > > > year...
> > > There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> > > And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law was > > changed > > > as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't pull out > and > > > make deal for money.................. That'll e a real pisser for > > Mike's > > > lawyers I bet ;-)
> > > > Yet. I'll be astonished if he's actually convicted and imprisoned.
> > > > Catherine
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> > > I can give excellent guidence if he needs it....... it entails, lots > > > of aspirin, a warm bath and a razor blade.
> > I'm willing to draw the bath and provide the blades and aspirin.
> It is a genrally held view that those who talk of and threaten suicide are > in fact looking for help and seldom carry out the threat, the one case where > that didn't work for me, when I said "If you do I shall be very upset and > sad.... but I can't follow you around all day" he waited till I was at the > bottom of the stairs then jumped three floors landing in the stairwell area > just ahead of me, with a sickening thud. It took him two hours to stop > twitching and choking to death, and I took a month off on sick leave.
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> "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > news:bpje0s$h69$0@pita.alt.net... > > Sure takes away from reports of the demonstrations regarding Bush's trip > to > > the Palace though doesn't it?
> > > "windswept" <windsw...@asarian-host.net> a écrit dans le message de > news: > > > 1436b4eb2c4f711aa253d.6fa2727807...@asarian-host.net...
> > > snip > > > > I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that the > > > chance > > > > for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> > > > I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. MG > may > > be > > > > bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to risk his > > > entire > > > > career for one client.
> > > > It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
> > > yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten alive in > > the > > > arena by the lions
> > > your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am considering > > > highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> > > > > I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and > imprisoned > > > > I'll > > > > > show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day of > the > > > > > year...
> > > > > There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> > > > > And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law was > > > > changed > > > > > as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't pull > out > > > and > > > > > make deal for money.................. That'll e a real pisser > for > > > > Mike's > > > > > lawyers I bet ;-)
> > > > > > Yet. I'll be astonished if he's actually convicted and > imprisoned.
> > > > > > Catherine
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> It is very much *our culture and that includes phoenix and her country.
> I make no apologies for wanting to see MJ brought to justice. And my > training in years of work in suicide prevention tells me he is at risk for > suicide.
> I don't think that makes me sick or degenerate. And at least I don't > complain about suicide on the internet - I have years of work in preventing > it. Seems to me Phoenix spents a lot of time judging and very little > actively working to find a solution to anything.
> "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > news:bpjdue$h1r$0@pita.alt.net... > > Funny but Andy and I were just saying something similar a few days ago > > concerning something else and how history will judge us in the future.
> > > "windswept" <windsw...@asarian-host.net> a écrit dans le message de > news: > > > 1436b4eb2c4f711aa253d.6fa2727807...@asarian-host.net...
> > > snip > > > > I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that the > > > chance > > > > for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> > > > I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. MG > may > > be > > > > bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to risk his > > > entire > > > > career for one client.
> > > > It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
> > > yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten alive in > > the > > > arena by the lions
> > > your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am considering > > > highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> > > > > I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and > imprisoned > > > > I'll > > > > > show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day of > the > > > > > year...
> > > > > There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> > > > > And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law was > > > > changed > > > > > as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't pull > out > > > and > > > > > make deal for money.................. That'll e a real pisser > for > > > > Mike's > > > > > lawyers I bet ;-)
> > > > > > Yet. I'll be astonished if he's actually convicted and > imprisoned.
> > > > > > Catherine
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>>> I can give excellent guidence if he needs it....... it entails, >>> lots of aspirin, a warm bath and a razor blade.
>> I'm willing to draw the bath and provide the blades and aspirin.
> It is a genrally held view that those who talk of and threaten > suicide are in fact looking for help and seldom carry out the threat, > the one case where that didn't work for me, when I said "If you do I > shall be very upset and sad.... but I can't follow you around all > day" he waited till I was at the bottom of the stairs then jumped > three floors landing in the stairwell area just ahead of me, with a > sickening thud. It took him two hours to stop twitching and choking > to death, and I took a month off on sick leave.
Almost exactly the same thing happened to me, Asa.
> I don't know about the popularity of reality shows or their content - > I don't watch them and I don't know when one of my friends mentioned > watching one. Who is that is watching all these things?
> I do have some thoughts about the signs of the condition of a culture- > none of the things you mentioned are among those issues.
> I was focusing on suicide - I haven't talked to one person who > suicided because of Jerry Springer or a Reality Show.
There have been a few murders. You don't remember the Jenny Jones debacle a few years ago?
Maybe the corruption of your culture has something to do with characterizing the poor, uneducated unwashed masses and their misery as objects for your entertainment pleasure.
<sigh> Just forget it. Go back to your brownies and yer Court Tv.
> "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > news:bpjihe$qkq$0@pita.alt.net... >> So you don't think that the popularity of such shows as Jerry >> Springer, or Reality TV says something about the decline of a >> culture?
>>> It is very much *our culture and that includes phoenix and her >>> country.
>>> I make no apologies for wanting to see MJ brought to justice. And >>> my training in years of work in suicide prevention tells me he is >>> at risk for suicide.
>>> I don't think that makes me sick or degenerate. And at least I >>> don't complain about suicide on the internet - I have years of work >>> in preventing it. Seems to me Phoenix spents a lot of time judging >>> and very little actively working to find a solution to anything.
>>> "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message >>> news:bpjdue$h1r$0@pita.alt.net... >>>> Funny but Andy and I were just saying something similar a few days >>>> ago concerning something else and how history will judge us in the >>>> future.
>>>>> snip >>>>>> I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that >>>>>> the chance >>>>> chance >>>>>> for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
>>>>>> I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. > MG >>> may >>>> be >>>>>> bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to >>>>>> risk his entire >>>>> entire >>>>>> career for one client.
>>>>>> It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
>>>>> yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten > alive >> in >>>> the >>>>> arena by the lions
>>>>> your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am >>>>> considering highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
>>>>>>> I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and >>>>>>> imprisoned I'll >>>>>> I'll >>>>>>> show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day >>>>>>> of the >>> the >>>>>>> year...
>>>>>>> There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
>>>>>>> And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law >>>>>>> was changed >>>>>> changed >>>>>>> as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't > pull >>> out >>>>> and >>>>>>> make deal for money.................. That'll e a real > pisser >>> for >>>>>> Mike's >>>>>>> lawyers I bet ;-)
> > I don't know about the popularity of reality shows or their content - > > I don't watch them and I don't know when one of my friends mentioned > > watching one. Who is that is watching all these things?
> > I do have some thoughts about the signs of the condition of a culture- > > none of the things you mentioned are among those issues.
> > I was focusing on suicide - I haven't talked to one person who > > suicided because of Jerry Springer or a Reality Show.
> There have been a few murders. You don't remember the Jenny Jones > debacle a few years ago?
Guess not. Such is selective memory.
> Maybe the corruption of your culture has something to do with > characterizing the poor, uneducated unwashed masses and their misery as > objects for your entertainment pleasure.
Yeppers. Yeppers, yeppers. Not happy yeppers.
I was wondering how you would be doing with this convo.
> <sigh> Just forget it. Go back to your brownies and yer Court Tv.
> Jean
> > "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > > news:bpjihe$qkq$0@pita.alt.net... > >> So you don't think that the popularity of such shows as Jerry > >> Springer, or Reality TV says something about the decline of a > >> culture?
> >>> It is very much *our culture and that includes phoenix and her > >>> country.
> >>> I make no apologies for wanting to see MJ brought to justice. And > >>> my training in years of work in suicide prevention tells me he is > >>> at risk for suicide.
> >>> I don't think that makes me sick or degenerate. And at least I > >>> don't complain about suicide on the internet - I have years of work > >>> in preventing it. Seems to me Phoenix spents a lot of time judging > >>> and very little actively working to find a solution to anything.
> >>> "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > >>> news:bpjdue$h1r$0@pita.alt.net... > >>>> Funny but Andy and I were just saying something similar a few days > >>>> ago concerning something else and how history will judge us in the > >>>> future.
> >>>>> snip > >>>>>> I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that > >>>>>> the chance > >>>>> chance > >>>>>> for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> >>>>>> I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. > > MG > >>> may > >>>> be > >>>>>> bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to > >>>>>> risk his entire > >>>>> entire > >>>>>> career for one client.
> >>>>>> It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
> >>>>> yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten > > alive > >> in > >>>> the > >>>>> arena by the lions
> >>>>> your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am > >>>>> considering highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> >>>>>>> I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and > >>>>>>> imprisoned I'll > >>>>>> I'll > >>>>>>> show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day > >>>>>>> of the > >>> the > >>>>>>> year...
> >>>>>>> There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> >>>>>>> And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law > >>>>>>> was changed > >>>>>> changed > >>>>>>> as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't > > pull > >>> out > >>>>> and > >>>>>>> make deal for money.................. That'll e a real > > pisser > >>> for > >>>>>> Mike's > >>>>>>> lawyers I bet ;-)
> > > I can give excellent guidence if he needs it....... it entails, lots > > > of aspirin, a warm bath and a razor blade.
> > I'm willing to draw the bath and provide the blades and aspirin.
> It is a genrally held view that those who talk of and threaten suicide are > in fact looking for help and seldom carry out the threat, the one case where > that didn't work for me, when I said "If you do I shall be very upset and > sad.... but I can't follow you around all day" he waited till I was at the > bottom of the stairs then jumped three floors landing in the stairwell area > just ahead of me, with a sickening thud. It took him two hours to stop > twitching and choking to death, and I took a month off on sick leave.
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> > It is a genrally held view that those who talk of and threaten suicide are > > in fact looking for help and seldom carry out the threat, the one case > where > > that didn't work for me, when I said "If you do I shall be very upset and > > sad.... but I can't follow you around all day" he waited till I was at > the > > bottom of the stairs then jumped three floors landing in the stairwell > area > > just ahead of me, with a sickening thud. It took him two hours to stop > > twitching and choking to death, and I took a month off on sick leave.
> > Asa
> That's pretty much what my dad said to my grandfather... and then my > grandfather went in the bathroom with a .45 and blew his head off.
> I'm sorry that that happened to you - it is probably the most lasting and > horrible thing one human can do to the another short of murdering them.
> What we tell people when we talk to them is that we value their life and of > course there are many techniques that intervention people use to break the > suicide focus. But if a person is set on that act - there is really nothing > anyone can do short of hospializing them and that is only a temporary > solution. It is the choice of the person - it is usually long term and > rarely reactive - in other words the ideation has been there for a long > time. It is usually a collection of life time issues that is the fault of > no one but the persons personal outlook on how they fit into their life.
> In other words - its rarely anyone's fault but the person doing the act.
> Again Asa my heart goes out to you that you had to experience that. I > remember very distinctly trying to deal with a brother who watched his > sibling shoot himself right in front of him. That will live with me forever > and I'm sure the brother will never be the same.
at 13, my niece candace watched her step-father shoot himself in the head. it happened on Valentine's day. i dont know that there will ever be a time when she is not haunted by the ste, the sounds & the smell.
> For anyone who has a loved one or a friend suicide - there is a group in the
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> yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten alive in the > arena by the lions
> your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am considering > highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> phoenix
hey phoenix,
i can understand what you are saying. i know for me, i will probably watch the show, the soap opera. maybe it is like the Romans... i'm not really sure. what i do know is that i want to see justice done in a situation similar to mine, a child being molested. i never got to prosecute my father or any of the perpetrators from my childhood. seeing someone served justice is no where near as healing as it would have been if it had been my father..... but there is some healing in it. i personally would not want him to commit suicide. first off, no mater what, he is a human being. being odd or different or even evil does not make him non-human for me. my second reason is i want him to have to serve his time. death seems like a way out of paying the consequences of his actions. my third reason??!! i have not seen him proved guilty yet. as of right now the only 'evidence' i have heard about is conjecture. although a lot of times our judicial system doesn't work well, i do believe in innocent until proven guilty.
i get really irritated when you draw conclusions about my entire country & it's population based on the people posting here. this is a very select group. not at all representative of my country. & also, all the people commenting on he MJ thing are not American.
Yes, our news makes a circus out of things, but no more so than other westernized countries. Paparazzi (no idea how to spell that) is not a word from the states.
i haven't seen much posting from you recently. i hope you are doing ok. i can not figure out that dog-gone telephone thing you were speaking of. talk to ya later.
> So you don't think that the popularity of such shows as Jerry Springer, or > Reality TV says something about the decline of a culture?
yes i do. yet they are as popular in other westernized countries as they are here. but then i think benny hill said a ton about the decline of a culture. i found him scary & disgusting & a sign of sickness. he sure was popular.
> > It is very much *our culture and that includes phoenix and her country.
> > I make no apologies for wanting to see MJ brought to justice. And my > > training in years of work in suicide prevention tells me he is at risk for > > suicide.
> > I don't think that makes me sick or degenerate. And at least I don't > > complain about suicide on the internet - I have years of work in > preventing > > it. Seems to me Phoenix spents a lot of time judging and very little > > actively working to find a solution to anything.
> > "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > > news:bpjdue$h1r$0@pita.alt.net... > > > Funny but Andy and I were just saying something similar a few days ago > > > concerning something else and how history will judge us in the future.
> > > > "windswept" <windsw...@asarian-host.net> a écrit dans le message de > > news: > > > > 1436b4eb2c4f711aa253d.6fa2727807...@asarian-host.net...
> > > > snip > > > > > I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that the > > > > chance > > > > > for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> > > > > I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. MG > > may > > > be > > > > > bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to risk > his > > > > entire > > > > > career for one client.
> > > > > It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
> > > > yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten alive > in > > > the > > > > arena by the lions
> > > > your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am > considering > > > > highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> > > > > > I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and > > imprisoned > > > > > I'll > > > > > > show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day of > > the > > > > > > year...
> > > > > > There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> > > > > > And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law > was > > > > > changed > > > > > > as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't pull > > out > > > > and > > > > > > make deal for money.................. That'll e a real pisser > > for > > > > > Mike's > > > > > > lawyers I bet ;-)
> > > > > > > Yet. I'll be astonished if he's actually convicted and > > imprisoned.
> > > > > > > Catherine
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> > I don't know about the popularity of reality shows or their content - > > I don't watch them and I don't know when one of my friends mentioned > > watching one. Who is that is watching all these things?
> > I do have some thoughts about the signs of the condition of a culture- > > none of the things you mentioned are among those issues.
> > I was focusing on suicide - I haven't talked to one person who > > suicided because of Jerry Springer or a Reality Show.
> There have been a few murders. You don't remember the Jenny Jones > debacle a few years ago?
yuck, no i had not heard of that, but then i dont watch things of that sort. i usually avoid the talk of murders & such. i find it distateful. if for safety's sake i need to know of something then i ddo watch, but onlt then. i did look it up when you wrote it here. that is sad.
has happened w/ all kinds of shows. here & in other countries. we are not the only ones, no, we aren't all that innovative.
it is an interesting tour on the net. hitting links & seeing how often deaths & murders & rapes have occured as a result of tv here & in most every other country. sad to say the least.
> Maybe the corruption of your culture has something to do with > characterizing the poor, uneducated unwashed masses and their misery as > objects for your entertainment pleasure.
> <sigh> Just forget it. Go back to your brownies and yer Court Tv.
> Jean
> > "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > > news:bpjihe$qkq$0@pita.alt.net... > >> So you don't think that the popularity of such shows as Jerry > >> Springer, or Reality TV says something about the decline of a > >> culture?
> >>> It is very much *our culture and that includes phoenix and her > >>> country.
> >>> I make no apologies for wanting to see MJ brought to justice. And > >>> my training in years of work in suicide prevention tells me he is > >>> at risk for suicide.
> >>> I don't think that makes me sick or degenerate. And at least I > >>> don't complain about suicide on the internet - I have years of work > >>> in preventing it. Seems to me Phoenix spents a lot of time judging > >>> and very little actively working to find a solution to anything.
> >>> "snowleopard" <pant...@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > >>> news:bpjdue$h1r$0@pita.alt.net... > >>>> Funny but Andy and I were just saying something similar a few days > >>>> ago concerning something else and how history will judge us in the > >>>> future.
> >>>>> snip > >>>>>> I still think as the very negative publicity surrounds MJ - that > >>>>>> the chance > >>>>> chance > >>>>>> for suicide is very very high - he may not make it to trial.
> >>>>>> I'm watching Geragos be reserved for him and thats interesting. > > MG > >>> may > >>>> be > >>>>>> bazaar and play the media but I don't think he is willing to > >>>>>> risk his entire > >>>>> entire > >>>>>> career for one client.
> >>>>>> It should be interesting to watch - its gonna be a soap opera.
> >>>>> yes, just like the romans were watching other human being eaten > > alive > >> in > >>>> the > >>>>> arena by the lions
> >>>>> your culture is so sick and creates such sickness that i am > >>>>> considering highly to join baba yaga in her opinion about it
> >>>>>>> I second that, and go one further, if he gets convicted and > >>>>>>> imprisoned I'll > >>>>>> I'll > >>>>>>> show my ass on top of the tower in Seattle, on the coldest day > >>>>>>> of the > >>> the > >>>>>>> year...
> >>>>>>> There's more chance of seeing God than him getting jail time.
> >>>>>>> And..... the reason for his arrest at this time is that the law > >>>>>>> was changed > >>>>>> changed > >>>>>>> as a direct result of the last fiasco, and now the kid can't > > pull > >>> out > >>>>> and > >>>>>>> make deal for money.................. That'll e a real > > pisser > >>> for > >>>>>> Mike's > >>>>>>> lawyers I bet ;-)
