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pnyikos

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Jun 2, 2010, 3:38:45 PM6/2/10
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Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
previous threads devoted to that subject. Galen, who set up these
threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his chief
hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.

If Galen is too bashful to resume our discussion of this e-mail there,
perhaps he would like to come to a thread that I set up concerning the
topic. So here we go.

On Jun 1, 11:23 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> the person posting as peter nyikos seems willing to go to any lengths to
> >> avoid discussing how the email he alleges came from galen had bogus
> >> headers
>
> >Galen is going to any lengths to avoid explaining exactly why the
> >headers HAD to be bogus.
>
> Whines the lying coward

"Poisoning the wells"

>who has yet to explaion how he came by the
> supposed email.

I received it in the usual way, twit.

You receive e-mail, too, don't you? You know how that happens, don't
you?

What's more, it came very soon after I sent an entry to a dumb-off
contest to the same address that I received that e-mail from. Galen
said that he had e-mail forwarded from that address to another that he
told us about.

I sometimes wonder whether he was trying to play the mouse deer trick
on me with that statement.

Anyway, he's never given a satisfactory explanation of why those
headers couldn't have come from him hitting a reply button and sending
the reply back over the same path whence it had come to him. In fact,
for a long time he kept avoiding any kind of straight answer to this
question.

More recently, he posted a weird response to it, again avoiding a
straight answer, and I showed how weird this response was in:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/9975fcd7d32782c6

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 2, 2010, 3:45:49 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:f448b650-8f82-43e3...@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:

> Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> previous threads devoted to that subject.


i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the insanity
defense for his having posted email with forged headers that he "claimed"
was from galen.

he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession of such
email since it could not ahev come from galen.

pnyikos

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Jun 2, 2010, 4:04:21 PM6/2/10
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On Jun 2, 3:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote innews:f448b650-8f82-43e3...@z17g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:

Wow, that was quick, Junior [or should I call you III?]. Perhaps
Sparks WAS right when he said you are at your computer 18 hours a day,
minimum.

A CC goes to him since he says he doesn't read the abortion
newsgroups.

> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> > previous threads devoted to that subject.
>
> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the insanity
> defense

You think your and Fischer's broken-record-routine TbBA on the most
recent thread does anything to advance the discussion? The last
substantive comments on the credibility of Galen were made by
Spartakus and by me in respose to Spartakus. Y'all are just licking
his boots by simply assuming that Galen's claims about an event that
happened over 15 years ago are VASTLY more reliable than his claims
about something that happened only about two years earlier.

Maybe Spartakus realizes his mistake and so is content to let you and
your fellow bootlickers set up smokescreens around him.

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 2, 2010, 4:12:40 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:8445b6c4-8ef5-436f...@c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
>> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
>> > previous threads devoted to that subject.
>>
>> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the
>> insanity defense for his having posted email with forged headers that
>> he "claimed" was from galen
>>
>> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession of
>> >> such email since it could not ahev come from galen.
>
> You think your and Fischer's broken-record


why are you running away from those bogus headers, perfesser?

how did you come to have them?

did you try to alter the headers of a post and make it look like an email,
hmmmm?

pnyikos

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Jun 2, 2010, 4:17:20 PM6/2/10
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On Jun 2, 3:45 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession of such
> email

Did you even read the post before you deleted all but the first few
lines, turkey?

------------------------------begin excerpt


> >Galen is going to any lengths to avoid explaining exactly why the
> >headers HAD to be bogus.

> Whines the lying coward

"Poisoning the wells"

>who has yet to explaion how he came by the
> supposed email.

I received it in the usual way, twit.

You receive e-mail, too, don't you? You know how that happens, don't
you?

--------------- end of reposted excerpt

Are you so allergic to e-mail that you have forgotten everything you
know about it?

>since it could not ahev come from galen.

It could very easily have come from Galen, but Galen has made some
unsupported claims which you are taking as gospel truth. See my first
reply to this dumb post of yours.

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Jun 2, 2010, 4:20:00 PM6/2/10
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On Jun 2, 4:12 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote innews:8445b6c4-8ef5-436f...@c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> >> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> >> > previous threads devoted to that subject.
>
> >> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the
> >> insanity defense for his having posted email with forged headers that
> >> he "claimed" was from galen
>
> >> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession of
> >> >> such email since it could not ahev come from galen.
>
> > You think your and Fischer's broken-record
>
> why are you running away from those bogus headers, perfesser?

Prove they are bogus, you dishonest character assassin.

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 2, 2010, 4:22:50 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> On Jun 2, 3:45�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession of
>> such email
>
> Did you even read the post


i have read your repeated lies about the bogus headers, amused at how you
kept ignorantly digging yourself into a bigger and bigger hold with each
successive lie and misrepresentation and pointing the finger at everyone
but where it belonged .... at yourself.

this behavior is quite similar to osprey's behavior when he was exposed is
many of his more malevolent dishonesties. the thing is, everyone knew
osprey was very stupid. i suppose there has to be one phd at the bottom of
the intellect ladder, assuming you're a phd at all.

but then, a phd wouldn't have made a false allegation of plagiarism as you
did and ignorantly stuck with it even after the ugly action was exposed,
right?

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 2, 2010, 4:25:32 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:d2e06235-83ea-49af...@w3g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 2, 4:12�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote

>> innews:8445b6c4-8ef5-436f-9b1b-628d
> ddc5...@c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:


>>
>> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering
>> >> > me about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the
>> >> > two previous threads devoted to that subject.
>>
>> >> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the
>> >> insanity defense for his having posted email with forged headers
>> >> that he "claimed" was from galen
>>
>> >> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession
>> >> of
>> >> >> such email since it could not ahev come from galen.
>>
>> > You think your and Fischer's broken-record
>>
>> why are you running away from those bogus headers, perfesser?
>
> Prove they are bogus, you dishonest character assassin.


previously done by galen in extensive detail and repeatedly in posts to
which you responded.

that's another sign of yoru dishonesty and of your cowardice and quivering
fear as to how *you* came to be the one posting bogus headers and falsely
claiming it was email.

hmmmm

The Chief Instigator

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Jun 2, 2010, 4:50:57 PM6/2/10
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You'd get slapped all the more stupid if you tried that in a court of law,
Phony. (Your responsibility is to prove the affirmative statement.)

--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.prismnet.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 2 (April 11)
NEXT GAME: The 2010-11 opener, in October 2010

Spartakus

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Jun 2, 2010, 5:52:29 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> previous threads devoted to that subject.  Galen, who set up these
> threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his
> chief hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.

That's because the ball is in your court to explain where you got this
email with forged headers that you say was from Galen. Galen has
explained in detail and at length why that email could not have come
from his workstation. The ball has been in your court for *months*.
Sheesh!

Grow up!

pnyikos

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Jun 2, 2010, 8:17:05 PM6/2/10
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On Jun 2, 5:52 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> > previous threads devoted to that subject.  Galen, who set up these
> > threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his
> > chief hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.
>
> That's because the ball is in your court to explain where you got this
> email

Read my first post to this thread, turkey.

> with forged headers

Fallacy: Begging the question.

> Galen has
> explained in detail and at length why that email could not have come
> from his workstation.

His "explanation" is full of holes, like the one I exposed in the
following post, done over 6 days ago, which y'all are burying y'alls
heads in the sand about. Note how he AGAIN ducks the question he
apologized for having ducked before:

Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: Personal responsibility

-------------------- begin excerpt

> >But you also ducked, over and over
> >again, questions about what would have happened if you had simply hit
> >"Reply" to a message that came to you via that e-mail address.

> I'm sorry you got the impression I was trying to dodge answering the
> question, I thought I had answered. It is somewhat difficult to
> answer "yes" or "no" without explaining things a bit, as it's sort of
> a "have you stopped beating your wife?" type of question. Yes, if I
> used the machine "galen" to send email, then "galen" would appear in
> the headers. But as I have tried to explain to you several times, I
> didn't use the machine "galen" for email.

You keep alleging that, yes. But you've joked about so many things
before, and even after you did this post (about Rekers, for instance)
it's hard to take this allegation seriously.

> I would encourage you to
> have someone in the appropriate department to explain to you the
> differences between how postings are handled and how email responses
> are handled by software, especially on Unix (tm) type machines.

I've used Unix until recently, for Bitnet first and then for elm and
(occasionally) Pine. I did e-mail responses on elm gazillions of
times, and a great many times on Bitnet.

Now I use Linux, a kissing cousin to Unix, at the office.

> >If you ever claimed not to have gone that route, it would have came
> >after several posts in which you ducked the question, perhaps because
> >you were trying to convince yourself, like one of the chess pieces in
> >_Alice Through the Looking Glass_, that you really hadn't done that
> >easiest and simplest way of acknowledging receipt of that entry.

> Maybe it would be the "easiest and simplest" way to you, but I would
> have had to go to considerable effort to generate the headers you
> posted,

I would have had to go to considerable effort to do anything else but
use the appropriate "reply" command to answer e-mail for any of the
above three methods, especially back in 1992-94 before I got a
workstation instead of a terminal. The terminal did not have a "cut
and paste" procedure for e-mail addresses, so I would have had to go
through a lot of contortions. IIRC with Bitnet the only alternative
was to type out the whole address by hand.

So, I conclude you are joking again.

> in fact, I'm not sure I could have. However I do not deny the
> possibility, however unlikely. I am merely asking you to acknowledge
> that you are unsure of the authorship of that email.

I already did that when I brought up the possibility that there was
someone else at that "galen" site intercepting your e-mail and
replying to it.

Peter Nyikos
=================== end of excerpt


> The ball has been in your court for *months*.
> Sheesh!
>
> Grow up!

You're almost as good at feigned indignation as Dean "Decaying Heep"
Kaflowitz was.

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Jun 2, 2010, 8:29:07 PM6/2/10
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On Jun 2, 4:50 pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT), pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > On Jun 2, 4:12?pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote innews:8445b6c4-8ef5-436f...@c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> >> >> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> >> >> > previous threads devoted to that subject.
>
> >> >> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the
> >> >> insanity defense for his having posted email with forged headers that
> >> >> he "claimed" was from galen
>
> >> >> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession of
> >> >> >> such email since it could not ahev come from galen.
>
> >> > You think your and Fischer's broken-record
>
> >> why are you running away from those bogus headers, perfesser?
>
> > Prove they are bogus, you dishonest character assassin.
>
> > Peter Nyikos
>
> You'd get slapped all the more stupid if you tried that in a court of law,
> Phony.  (Your responsibility is to prove the affirmative statement.)

I'm sure Keegan will be grateful to you for saving him whatever
anxiety comes from being the one to tell such a brazen, bare-faced lie
as the one you just told.

You may heartily WISH that this country were based on "guilty until
proven innocent" [in this case: guilty of having posted an e-mail with
bogus headers, or forgery for short] with you as the D.A., but it is
shamelessly dishonest to imply that the USA is run on this system NOW.

On a lighter note--by carefully avoiding seeing things on that
"Personal responsibility" thread like what I reposted in reply to
Spartakus, you may have missed the following post, the very last post
on the thread as of now-- and made 6 days ago plus change. I did
make one little amendment, but you can see the original any time you
wish.

Local: Thurs, May 27 2010 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: Personal responsibility
On May 22, 9:32 pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:17:19 -0700 (PDT), william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen
> > at birth?

> I don't have to wonder about it, as your fantasy never happened. It's a
> legal license listed in the Harris County Clerk's office. Even you could
> figure out the day on which said marriage occurred, and even the county
> official who did the ceremony.

Which marriage license are you confusing with your [hospital discharge
papers], yours or your mother's? Maybe Bill's idea of you being
deprived of oxygen at birth is not a fantasy after all.

:-)

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Jun 2, 2010, 8:38:37 PM6/2/10
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On Jun 2, 4:25 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote innews:d2e06235-83ea-49af...@w3g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 2, 4:12 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote
> >> innews:8445b6c4-8ef5-436f-9b1b-628d
> > ddc55...@c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:

>
> >> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering
> >> >> > me about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the
> >> >> > two previous threads devoted to that subject.
>
> >> >> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the
> >> >> insanity defense for his having posted email with forged headers
> >> >> that he "claimed" was from galen
>
> >> >> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> such email since it could not ahev come from galen.
>
> >> > You think your and Fischer's broken-record
>
> >> why are you running away from those bogus headers, perfesser?
>
> > Prove they are bogus, you dishonest character assassin.
>
> previously done by galen in extensive detail and repeatedly in posts to
> which you responded

...quite effectively, demolishing his alleged proofs, by the looks of
it. How else to explain the fact that he has been absent FOR TEN DAYS
from the thread where I posted the comeback you can see in my follow-
up to Spartakus?

What's more, Google shows his last post anywhere was made 4 days ago.

What is that you keep saying about posting vacations, hmmmmmmm?

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 2, 2010, 9:28:48 PM6/2/10
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Spartakus <spar...@my-deja.com> wrote in news:abc4203b-872e-4ad8-9151-
e9d55b...@y21g2000vba.googlegroups.com:


the person posting as peter nyikos is clearly struggling with ongoing
threads relating to his false allegations of plagiarism and his the forged
headers contained in the email he posted, falsely alleging it was from
galen.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 2, 2010, 9:30:46 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:aad12b4b-b601-44e7...@l6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 2, 4:25�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote

>> innews:d2e06235-83ea-49af-9363-5ae4
> 474d...@w3g2000vbd.googlegroups.com:


>> > On Jun 2, 4:12�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote
>> >> innews:8445b6c4-8ef5-436f-9b1b-628d
>> > ddc55...@c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep
>> >> >> > badgering me about an e-mail about which I have had the last
>> >> >> > word on the two previous threads devoted to that subject.
>>
>> >> >> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the
>> >> >> insanity defense for his having posted email with forged
>> >> >> headers that he "claimed" was from galen
>>
>> >> >> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in
>> >> >> possession of
>> >> >> >> such email since it could not ahev come from galen.
>>
>> >> > You think your and Fischer's broken-record
>>
>> >> why are you running away from those bogus headers, perfesser?
>>
>> > Prove they are bogus, you dishonest character assassin.
>>
>> previously done by galen in extensive detail and repeatedly in posts
>> to which you responded
>
> ...quite effectively,

your post was cut at your first new lie.

Ray Fischer

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Jun 2, 2010, 10:44:16 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
>about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two

Awww! Poor baby! The pro-liar is expected to explain an email he
claims he recieved and he thinks it's "badgering".

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Jun 2, 2010, 10:45:40 PM6/2/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Jun 2, 5:52�pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
>> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
>> > previous threads devoted to that subject. �Galen, who set up these
>> > threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his
>> > chief hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.
>>
>> That's because the ball is in your court to explain where you got this
>> email
>
>Read my first post to this thread, turkey.

That would mean something if you didn't have the reputation of being
dishonest, stupid, and incompetant. As it is your unsupported claims
are worthless.

>> with forged headers
>
>Fallacy: Begging the question.

Chickenshit evasion.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

The Chief Instigator

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On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:29:07 -0700 (PDT), pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jun 2, 4:50?pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT), pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > On Jun 2, 4:12?pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote innews:8445b6c4-8ef5-436f...@c7g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
>> >> >> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
>> >> >> > previous threads devoted to that subject.
>>
>> >> >> i see the person posting as peter nyikos is making claim to the
>> >> >> insanity defense for his having posted email with forged headers that
>> >> >> he "claimed" was from galen
>>
>> >> >> he clearly doesn't want to explain how he came to be in possession of
>> >> >> >> such email since it could not ahev come from galen.
>>
>> >> > You think your and Fischer's broken-record
>>
>> >> why are you running away from those bogus headers, perfesser?
>>
>> > Prove they are bogus, you dishonest character assassin.
>>
>> > Peter Nyikos
>>
>> You'd get slapped all the more stupid if you tried that in a court of law,
>> Phony. ?(Your responsibility is to prove the affirmative statement.)

Idiot, you are, Phony. My marriage is recorded in the county clerk's
office. You go to www.cclerk.hctx.net/applications/websearch, click on the
Marriage License link, then enter "Humphrey Patrick L" in the Applicant Name
box, and 19900811 in the Date box. Tell me the six-digit file number and
the name of the person who performed it. Failure to respond suggests you're
being spoken for by the shame of Delaware.

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 9:56:05 AM6/3/10
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On Jun 2, 9:28 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote in news:abc4203b-872e-4ad8-9151-
> e9d55b49d...@y21g2000vba.googlegroups.com:

>
> > pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >> Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> >> about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> >> previous threads devoted to that subject. Galen, who set up these
> >> threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his
> >> chief hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.
>
> > That's because the ball is in your court to explain where you got this
> > email with forged headers that you say was from Galen.  Galen has
> > explained in detail and at length why that email could not have come
> > from his workstation.  The ball has been in your court for *months*.
> > Sheesh!
>
> > Grow up!

Spartakus "only sees what he wants to see"-- that's the only halfway
rational explanation for his claim that the ball has been in my court
for "*months*".

There are other, nastier explanations, but I'll tell those in direct
follow-up to him if he has the chutzpah to deal in detail with my
follow-up to the same post to which Keegan is following up here.

> the person posting as peter nyikos is clearly struggling with ongoing
> threads relating to his false allegations of plagiarism

Projection: "A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to
other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot
accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks
insight into his own impulses and traits."

Change "of plagiarism" to "about plagiarism" and you get a perfect
match. You have shown yourself to be terrified of two simple "Do you
deny" questions, which, if answered with "No", would demolish all
your "proofs" that you did not commit plagiarism.

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:09:47 AM6/3/10
to
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:305dbea6-262f-4440-a793-
d38f0a...@c13g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 2, 9:28�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote in news:abc4203b-872e-4ad8-9151-
>> e9d55b49d...@y21g2000vba.googlegroups.com:

>> >> Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
>> >> about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
>> >> previous threads devoted to that subject. Galen, who set up these
>> >> threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his
>> >> chief hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.
>>
>> > That's because the ball is in your court to explain where you got
>> > this email with forged headers that you say was from Galen. �Galen
>> > has explained in detail and at length why that email could not have
>> > come from his workstation. �The ball has been in your court for
>> > *months*. Sheesh!
>>
>> > Grow up!
>
> Spartakus "only sees what he wants to see"-- that's the only halfway
> rational explanation for his claim that the ball has been in my court
> for "*months*".


not true. the best explanation is that spartacus remarks reflected the
facts and the reality of what regular readers observed.

they also observed your misrepresentations of events.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:12:50 AM6/3/10
to
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:305dbea6-262f-4440-a793-
d38f0a...@c13g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 2, 9:28�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> the person posting as peter nyikos is clearly struggling with ongoing

>> threads relating to his false allegations of plagiarism and the forged


>> headers contained in the email he posted, falsely alleging it was from
>> galen.
>

> Projection:

not even a good try at running away from your despicable behavior.

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:14:19 AM6/3/10
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On Jun 2, 10:44 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> pnyikos  <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> >about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
>
> Awww!  Poor baby!  The pro-liar

As I've documented numerous times, you are far more of a pro-liar than
I ever was (or ever will be, given the kind of conscience I have).

> is expected to explain an email he
> claims he recieved

I received it. What part of that do you not understand?

And I explained it: it was an e-mail whose whole text was "Got it --
thanks." in acknowledgment of an entry I had e-mailed to that
g...@galen.med.virginia.edu for a dumb-off context.

Hardly the makings of a federal case.

> and he thinks it's "badgering".

I keep asking questions of Fischer and Keegan and Spartakus to which a
simple Yes (or No, as the case may be) answer would remove all
negative suspicion of them, and Spartakus pretends to think it is
infinitely worse than mere "badgering"--he even pretended on the
"Pathological Liar..." thread to think it is the equivalent of KGB
(and Cheka, OGPU, NKVD, etc.) interrogations designed to force people
to confess to things they never did.

But of course, since Fischer is one of the prime beneficiaries of this
ranting and raving, he wouldn't dream of calling Spartakus "poor
baby," much less "paranoid" on account of the incredibly phony tirade
where Spartakus behaved like this.

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:21:32 AM6/3/10
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On Jun 3, 5:16 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:

Ah, so you think that someone who nails you on a bare-faced lie, which
you don't even deny was a brazen lie, is a phony, eh?

>  My marriage is recorded in the county clerk

> office.  You go towww.cclerk.hctx.net/applications/websearch, click on the


> Marriage License link, then enter "Humphrey Patrick L" in the Applicant Name
> box, and 19900811 in the Date box.  Tell me the six-digit file number and
> the name of the person who performed it.  Failure to respond suggests you're
> being spoken for by the shame of Delaware.

Failure to acknowledge my smiley, and what looks on the surface like
you babbling about marriage licenses in attempting to refute a
"fantasy" about you not getting enough oxygen at birth, suggests that
you have totally lost whatever sense of humor you once had.

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:23:55 AM6/3/10
to
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:48515da5-413a-4840-b518-
366a81...@40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 2, 10:44 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> is expected to explain an email he
>> claims he recieved
>
> I received it.

the claims of a well known,liar like you doesn't carry a lot of weight.

the email you claim to have received, and which you subsequently posted
and claimed came from galen contained headers proving that it could not
have. this has been known a long time. that you continue to defend your
behavior in the face of reality suggests you have severe issues.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 10:26:39 AM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:641fc04c-f39d-4f84...@z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:


i doubt that patrick, or anyone else, pays much attention to thinks such as
smileys coming from a wekk known liar like you.

are you going claim that the email you posted with the bogus headers should
have contained your smiley?

or that your malicious lies about plagiarism should have??

did you even wonder why you are such a lonely man

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 1:02:45 PM6/3/10
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On Jun 3, 10:23 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:48515da5-413a-4840-b518-
> 366a81e8e...@40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

>
> > On Jun 2, 10:44 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> is expected to explain an email he
> >> claims he recieved
>
> > I received it.  
>
> the claims of a well known,liar like you doesn't carry a lot of weight.

Fallacy: begging the question ("well known liar").

I am well known in the abortion newsgroups, but nobody can say they
KNOW I am a liar based on anything I've posted on the internet.
[Jokes, like the one your admiring friend and well-known liar Humphrey
didn't get, don't count as lies.]

Care to dispute the statement that Humphrey at least WILL be a well-
known liar if word gets around about the whopper he told on this
thread about the way our legal system works?

Do you believe his claims will carry a lot of weight after this?

Peter Nyikos

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 1:10:20 PM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:2deb0b82-9dd5-405b-ac24-
58baec...@y21g2000vba.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 3, 10:23 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:48515da5-413a-4840-b518-
>> 366a81e8e...@40g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Jun 2, 10:44 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> is expected to explain an email he
>> >> claims he recieved
>>
>> > I received it.  
>>
>> the claims of a well known,liar like you doesn't carry a lot of weight.
>
> Fallacy: begging the question ("well known liar").


chris, is that you, misusing words again?

> I am well known in the abortion newsgroups


as a malicious liar and fruitcake who is obsessed with patrick, just as
ooopsy was

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 1:26:09 PM6/3/10
to nyi...@bellsouth.net
On Jun 3, 10:09 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:305dbea6-262f-4440-a793-
> d38f0a593...@c13g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

You left out the smiley. Adrienne Regard would not have approved you
leaving it out, had you (1) crossed her and (2) dumped on some of her
little darlings the way you did on me just now and the way I did on
two of them (Chris Lyman, Larry Margolis) back in 1992.

Of course, once Larry Margolis and you got started on your Mother of
all Flamewars, she was faced with the question of whether either of
you two little darlings would remain her little darling. IIRC she
avoided getting involved at all, just like Lyman and Humphrey.

[I do believe Spartakus remembers that intervention of Ms. Regard in
that thread where I called Lyman "Tweedledee" and Margolis
"Tweedledum", when Lyman was trying to pass himself off as a
disinterested observer of a spat between me and Margolis.]

Peter Nyikos

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 1:36:19 PM6/3/10
to nyi...@bellsouth.net
On Jun 3, 10:12 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:305dbea6-262f-4440-a793-
> d38f0a593...@c13g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Jun 2, 9:28 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> the person posting as peter nyikos is clearly struggling with ongoing
> >> threads relating to his false allegations of plagiarism and the forged
> >> headers contained in the email he posted, falsely alleging it was from
> >> galen.

The following refers to "clearly struggling" [compare "terrified" in
the repost]:

> > Projection:

> not even a good try at running away from your despicable behavior.

Now *this* Keegan joke deserved more than one smiley, in view of all
that was in it and all that was deleted to produce it:

------------------- repost


"A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to
other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot
accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks
insight into his own impulses and traits."

Change "of plagiarism" to "about plagiarism" and you get a perfect
match. You have shown yourself to be terrified of two simple "Do you
deny" questions, which, if answered with "No", would demolish all
your "proofs" that you did not commit plagiarism.

Peter Nyikos
==================================

Of course, the definition of projection didn't encompass all of
Keegan's madcap slanderous sentence, but it covered the part that I
hadn't already covered in my follow-up to Spartakus (who is NOT
expected to face up to even one third of all the issues my follow-up
stressed).

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 2:00:23 PM6/3/10
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On Jun 3, 10:26 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:

> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote innews:641fc04c-f39d-4f84...@z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Jun 3, 5:16 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:
> > Failure to acknowledge my smiley, and what looks on the surface like
> > you babbling about marriage licenses in attempting to refute a
> > "fantasy" about you not getting enough oxygen at birth, suggests that
> > you have totally lost whatever sense of humor you once had.
>
> i doubt that patrick, or anyone else, pays much attention to thinks such as
> smileys

nor his own ridiculously incongruous behavior. Just look at how he
babbled in response to Mosco:

=====================begin repost


On May 22, 9:32 pm, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:17:19 -0700 (PDT), william mosco <wm5...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > do you ever wonder what life would be like if you'd had enough oxygen
> > at birth?
> I don't have to wonder about it, as your fantasy never happened. It's a
> legal license listed in the Harris County Clerk's office. Even you could
> figure out the day on which said marriage occurred, and even the county
> official who did the ceremony.

===================== end of excerpt

Instead of realizing that I had done to him what you and Fischer have
done thousands of times to others and are continuing to do in this
thread, he just charged on like the best "straight man" in a comedy
routine and got even more emphatic in his babbling about his marriage
license.

Well, actually, I made one change in what you and Fischer love to do,
in that I put in a smiley to partly clue Patrick in on what I was up
to. But he went right on barging like a wounded bull.

[TbBA and GIGO by Keegan deleted]

> did you even wonder why you are such a lonely man

More TbBA and GIGO, but at least this is comical in the way Keegan,
who never gives any sign of having a job or close relatives or friends
outside of Usenet, assumes someone who writes far more intelligently
than he does, and who has a loving wife and four devoted daughters, is
a lonely man.

Not that it is the least bit hard for someone with a Ph.D., even a 26
year old fresh out of grad school, to write far more intelligently
than Keegan does.

Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/
Ph.D. Carnegie-Mellon University, 1971

pnyikos

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Jun 3, 2010, 2:15:57 PM6/3/10
to nyi...@bellsouth.net
On Jun 2, 10:45 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> pnyikos  <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Jun 2, 5:52 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
> >> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
> >> > previous threads devoted to that subject. Galen, who set up these
> >> > threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his
> >> > chief hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.
>
> >> That's because the ball is in your court to explain where you got this
> >> email
>
> >Read my first post to this thread, turkey.
>
> That would mean something if you didn't have the reputation of being
> dishonest, stupid, and incompetant.

What you call a "reputation" is a virtual reality created by a small
handful, about ten in number, of people who like to act as though
those adjectives described me, but their actions are almost always
Truth by Blatant Assertion, as you are indulging in here.

> >> with forged headers
>
> >Fallacy: Begging the question.
>
> Chickenshit evasion.

Your action in deleting the following speaks infinitely louder than
your worthless TbBA, and marks you as a chickenshit evader of the
truth.

=====================begin repost


> Galen has
> explained in detail and at length why that email could not have come
> from his workstation.

His "explanation" is full of holes, like the one I exposed in the

following post, done over 6 days ago, which y'all are burying y'all's

-------------------- begin excerpt

+++++++++++++++ end of repost

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 3:41:13 PM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:0bf76c29-e627-4834...@q13g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 3, 10:09 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote in

>> > Spartakus "only sees what he wants to see"-- that's the only
>> > halfway rational explanation for his claim that the ball has been
>> > in my court for "*months*".
>>
>> not true. the best explanation is that spartacus remarks reflected
>> the facts and the reality of what regular readers observed.
>>
>> they also observed your misrepresentations of events.
>
> You left out the smiley.


you're the only one who thinks your sick lies and misrepresentations
deserve one.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 3:44:05 PM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:3200bd86-aeb2-4f1d...@f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 3, 10:12 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote in

>> >> the person posting as peter nyikos is clearly struggling with
>> >> ongoing threads relating to his false allegations of plagiarism
>> >> and the forged headers contained in the email he posted, falsely
>> >> alleging it was from galen.
>

>> > Projection:
>
>> not even a good try at running away from your despicable behavior.
>
> Now *this* Keegan joke


you seem to think your sick lies and misrepresentations are a joke.

james g. keegan jr.

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Jun 3, 2010, 3:45:48 PM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:8e5f12c0-4b66-4d2b...@d12g2000vbr.googlegroups.com:

> On Jun 3, 10:26 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote

>> i doubt that patrick, or anyone else, pays much attention to things


>> such as smileys
>
> nor his own ridiculously incongruous behavior.


don't you think you'd be better off focusing your posts on making up for
some of your sick and mean spirites lies?

The Chief Instigator

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Jun 3, 2010, 7:07:36 PM6/3/10
to
On 3 Jun 2010 14:26:39 GMT, james g. keegan jr. <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:641fc04c-f39d-4f84...@z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Jun 3, 5:16?am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:
>> Failure to acknowledge my smiley, and what looks on the surface like
>> you babbling about marriage licenses in attempting to refute a
>> "fantasy" about you not getting enough oxygen at birth, suggests that
>> you have totally lost whatever sense of humor you once had.
>
>
> i doubt that patrick, or anyone else, pays much attention to thinks such as
> smileys coming from a wekk known liar like you.

You mean a wreck like him.

> are you going claim that the email you posted with the bogus headers should
> have contained your smiley?
>
> or that your malicious lies about plagiarism should have??
>
> did you even wonder why you are such a lonely man

He's not quite the complete train wreck that was John D. Wentzky, who
couldn't get anyone to buy any stocks of his attempted corporation, and is
probably doing time for his assault three and a half years ago.

Ray Fischer

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Jun 3, 2010, 9:54:12 PM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Jun 3, 5:16�am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@prismnet.com> wrote:

>> �My marriage is recorded in the county clerk


>> office. �You go towww.cclerk.hctx.net/applications/websearch, click on the
>> Marriage License link, then enter "Humphrey Patrick L" in the Applicant Name
>> box, and 19900811 in the Date box. �Tell me the six-digit file number and
>> the name of the person who performed it. �Failure to respond suggests you're
>> being spoken for by the shame of Delaware.
>
>Failure to acknowledge my smiley,

You being a sleazy, lying asshole doesn't just magically go away
because you type three extra characters.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Jun 3, 2010, 9:55:51 PM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Jun 2, 10:45�pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> pnyikos �<nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >On Jun 2, 5:52 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> >> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> > Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
>> >> > about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
>> >> > previous threads devoted to that subject. Galen, who set up these
>> >> > threads, has been silent on them for over a week now, as has his
>> >> > chief hit man "Spartakus", letting me have the last word on both.
>>
>> >> That's because the ball is in your court to explain where you got this
>> >> email
>>
>> >Read my first post to this thread, turkey.
>>
>> That would mean something if you didn't have the reputation of being
>> dishonest, stupid, and incompetant.
>
>What you call a "reputation" is a virtual reality created by a small
>handful, about ten in number,

Ten to one.

You lose, sleazebag.

>> >> with forged headers
>>
>> >Fallacy: Begging the question.
>>
>> Chickenshit evasion.
>
>Your action in deleting the following speaks infinitely louder than

Your self-serving bullshit and excuses is still just an evasion.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Jun 3, 2010, 9:57:13 PM6/3/10
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pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>On Jun 2, 10:44 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> pnyikos  <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >Galen Hekhuis's allies (like Fischer, see below) keep badgering me
>> >about an e-mail about which I have had the last word on the two
>>
>> Awww!  Poor baby!  The pro-liar
>
>As I've documented numerous times,

Repeating your lies doesn't make them true.

>> is expected to explain an email he
>> claims he recieved
>
>I received it.

So you claim, but I see that you are a lying little weasel.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

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