School Refuses Student Transfers from Transsexual Teacher's Classroom
J Young
I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/sep/06090805.html
Parent: "I have to go home and tell a 14 year old you have to talk to a
teacher who's a male in female clothing"
BATAVIA, New York, September 8, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A school district
in western New York has refused to transfer high school students out of
classes being taught by a transsexual teacher, denying a request by parents.
Five parents submitted written requests to the district board, asking that
their children be removed from the classroom of a male teacher undergoing
sex change medical treatment, WSTM.com reported. The earth sciences teacher
has begun dressing as a woman. The teacher has been with the Batavia School
District for eight years.
Superintendent Richard Stutzman said the parents' requests did not meet the
district guidelines. Other students were granted transfers based on changes
to their program of study.
The Batavia School District held an information meeting for parents August
28. Legal experts presented information on the teacher's rights and
protections to more than 100 parents, reported News 10NBC. A transgender
expert and a doctor were also in attendance. Parents received notification
of the situation one week before the meeting.
Some parents were dismayed by the news. "I have to go home and tell a 14
year old you have to talk to a teacher who's a male in female clothing. And
if you don't address her as a she in 2 weeks, it's harassment because you
should be transitioned by now," Batavia parent Amber Robinson told News
10NBC after the meeting.
The district plans to hold a community-wide meeting on the issue September
12th.
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J Yöung
youngo...@aol.com
John D.Wentzky
directed against the teacher and/or the administration because of their
denial of the request to transfer the children into another class?
WV Bretts
wrote:
>That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
>I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
>students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
>they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
>have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
>
>
"ABHORRENT"!!!
Jesus fucking Christ, man, if you're gonna post stupid religious
bullshit, at least fucking spell it correctly!!!
__________________________________________________________
I have learned, in whatsoever state I am (WV)
therewith to be Bretts. (Phillipians 4:11)
Sgeo
> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
> abhorant.
> I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of
> someone
> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
What if the teacher was black and the kids were racist? Should the school
honor requests to transfer classes?
Ray Fischer
>That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
V
J Young wrote:
> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
The person is having the apporved medical treatment for a gender identity
disorder.
Medical treatment.
Not anything unclean.
Nothing immoral.
This person is not crossdressing.
This person will soon be anatomically and legally a woman
Get over it Jon.
>
>
--
"I remember how the meaning of words began to change. I remember how
"different" became dangerous. I still don't understand it, why they hate us so
much. ...the first time we kissed I knew I never wanted to kiss any other lips
but hers again... She grew Scarlet Carsons for me in our window box and our
place always smelt of roses. Those were the best years of my life...for three
years I had roses, and apologized to no one"
Valerie, in "V for Vendetta"
V
"John D.Wentzky" wrote:
No I dont.
John D.Wentzky
"V" <V...@forVendetta.uk> wrote in message
news:4503A522...@forVendetta.uk...
>
>
> "John D.Wentzky" wrote:
>
>> Do you think there could be violence at this school in the future or
>> actions
>> directed against the teacher and/or the administration because of their
>> denial of the request to transfer the children into another class?
>
> No I dont.
Batavia, NY?
Is it a small town?
You may be right.
Sean C
<youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
>
What if the kids were atheists and the parents didn't want their kids
taught by a fundamentalist Christian? Should they be forced to attend
those classes?
--Sean C
Malcolm
Ultimately we have to make moral judgements. Cross-dressing is either a
choice, in which case it is morally unacceptable according to the Bible, or
it is symptom of a mental problem. People with mental health problems should
not be persecuted, but they shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of
children, either.
Cross-dressing disturbs childrens' idea of sexual roles and threatens their
identity. They should not be exposed to it simply beacuse adults have
decided to accept no restraints on their sexual behaviour.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
rbw...@juno.com
better to not accuse him of sin.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
Ray Fischer wrote:
> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
>
> Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
>
it just because you do not want it to be there.
Robert B. Winn
Josh Miles
> "Sgeo" <sg...@opera.invalid.com> wrote in message
>> On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
>>> abhorant.
>>> I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
>>> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of
>>> someone
>>> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
>>> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
>> What if the teacher was black and the kids were racist? Should the school
>> honor requests to transfer classes?
>>
> Or what if he were an Aryan supremacist? Or a Papau-New Guinea cannibal?
False analogy. Can you guess why, mental midget?
> Ultimately we have to make moral judgements. Cross-dressing is either a
> choice,
Learn the difference between cross dressers and transsexuals.
> in which case it is morally unacceptable according to the Bible,
Irrelevant.
> or it is symptom of a mental problem. People with mental health problems should
> not be persecuted, but they shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of
> children, either.
If worshiping a dead man on a stick isn't a mental health problem, I
don't know what is. Let's fire all Christian teachers.
> Cross-dressing disturbs childrens' idea of sexual roles and threatens their
> identity.
Learn the difference between transsexuals and cross dressers.
> They should not be exposed to it simply beacuse adults have
> decided to accept no restraints on their sexual behaviour.
What does any of this have to do with "restraints on their sexual
behavior"? What the fuck do you know about this person's sexual behavior?
rbw...@juno.com
evil place where children are taught all manner of falsehoods.
Robert B. Winn
--sexkitten--
True. Luckily no one here is doing or suggesting doing that.
Except you.
--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and the art of projection- part 3
1130732777.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Psychologists call it"leveling." You either have to inflate your own
sense of self-worth
somehow or try and bring others down to you.
1414fd53.04020...@posting.google.com
you're a whore
1414fd53.03012...@posting.google.com
*I* said you were a whore, and you are
1414fd53.02011...@posting.google.com
I don't own a vibrator,whore.
1414fd53.03121...@posting.google.com
you stupid whore
Andrealphus
rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
Misspelling a word is not a sin, liar Robert.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
Andrealphus
> Ray Fischer wrote:
>> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
>>> abhorant.
>>
>> Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
>> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
>>
> I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to kill
> it
Then stop killing children, liar Robert.
Andrealphus
> Sean C wrote:
Well,liar Robert, it certainly isn't something you need to worry about.
When you have children, you get to decide how they are educated. You have
heard of home schooling, right liar Robert? I'm not sure about Arizona,
but where I live children aren't forced to attend school as long as one or
both of the parents have at least a bachelor's degree. You can teach your
offstpring your manner of falsehoods.
Lucifer
Wonderful, the evidence I needed. Christians hate sex, probably because
they can't get laid.
> Robert B. Winn
Andrealphus
wyrd...@hotmail.com, typed this:
With this particular "christian" (Robert Winn) it's the literal truth.
Lucifer
Infanticide, indeed evil. Turns up often in the bible, why I believe
that is says your god did it often, but a little ball of cells that
isn't yet alive?
Why not stop it becoming alive, after all, if it hasn't become
conscious, hasn't begun to live, then it is not murder, no more than
using a rubber johnny is.
> Robert B. Winn
bob&carole
How in Gods name did this creature get a teaching job in the first
place???
It seems the recent Pharmacy break-in is solved.................
Ash
Andrealphus
ash.a...@virgin.net, typed this:
You named it, Robert Winn's Bizzarro World.
bob&carole
L. Michael Roberts
> "Sgeo" <sg...@opera.invalid.com> wrote in message
>> On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>
>> What if the teacher was black and the kids were racist? Should the school
>> honor requests to transfer classes?
>>
> Or what if he were an Aryan supremacist? Or a Papau-New Guinea cannibal?
>
> Ultimately we have to make moral judgements. Cross-dressing is either a
> choice,
Consider educating yourself before opening your mouth [or in this case
typing] - there is a *big* difference between Cross-dressing and being a
transsexual
> in which case it is morally unacceptable according to the Bible,
Was it a private Christian school? If so, then the bible might be
relevant. If it was not a Christian school, the bible is TOTALLY
IRRELEVANT to the situation.
<snip>
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This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
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bob&carole
place???
It seems the recent Pharmacy break-in is solved.................
L. Michael Roberts
> Sean C wrote:
>> In article <FLqdnYH1O8TeGJ7Y...@giganews.com>, J Young
>> <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>
>> What if the kids were atheists and the parents didn't want their kids
>> taught by a fundamentalist Christian? Should they be forced to attend
>> those classes?
>>
> I don't think children should be forced to attend school. School is an
> evil place where children are taught all manner of falsehoods.
I always knew that fundies hated education and would prefer kids remain
ignorant and only read their ancient translated and mistranslated book
of myths, superstition, death and incest!
bob&carole
place???
It seems the recent Pharmacy break-in is solved.................
V
Malcolm wrote:
> "Sgeo" <sg...@opera.invalid.com> wrote in message
> > On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Ultimately we have to make moral judgements. Cross-dressing is either a
> choice, in which case it is morally unacceptable according to the Bible, or
> it is symptom of a mental problem. People with mental health problems should
> not be persecuted, but they shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of
> children, either.
We are talking about an individual with GID who is following the medically
accepted treatment, transitioning to female.
Case law on the subject north of the red state quarantine line treats it as a
medical issue. As long as the individual is adhering to the SOC(Standards of
Care) for GID, they are protected by law as they should be.
> Cross-dressing disturbs childrens' idea of sexual roles and threatens their
> identity.
No, it disturbs their parents preconceptions on gender models. Kids will ask
questions, but tend to be very accepting as opposed to adults. The "Postcards
from Buster" episode fiasco demonstrated that rather vividly.
> They should not be exposed to it simply beacuse adults have
> decided to accept no restraints on their sexual behaviour.
Cross dressing is a fetish. GID is an entirely different issue.
Most of the post operative individuals with GID move quietly back into society
undetectably. One is married to a member of the Texas legislature.
I've known a number of them through my work as an LGBT actiivist---nice women.
V
rbw...@juno.com
Andrealphus wrote:
> In News 1157883164.7...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,
> rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
>
> > WV Bretts wrote:
> >> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
> >>> abhorant. I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not
> >>> mean the right of students should be violated by forcing them to be
> >>> in the presence of someone they feel to be living an unclean,
> >>> inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't have a problem with it, then
> >>> fine; let it teach.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> "ABHORRENT"!!!
> >>
> >> Jesus fucking Christ, man, if you're gonna post stupid religious
> >> bullshit, at least fucking spell it correctly!!!
> >> __________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> I have learned, in whatsoever state I am (WV)
> >> therewith to be Bretts. (Phillipians 4:11)
> > If you are going to take the name of Jesus Christ in vain, you would
> > do better to not accuse him of sin.
>
> Misspelling a word is not a sin, liar Robert.
>
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
a strong statement.
Robert B. Winn
V
bob&carole wrote:
Transsexuals statistically tend to have consistently higher than average
intelligence.
rbw...@juno.com
trying to produce children to kill.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
--sexkitten-- wrote:
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>
> > Ray Fischer wrote:
> >
> >>J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> >>
> >>Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
> >>way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
> >>
> >
> > I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to kill
> > it just because you do not want it to be there.
>
> True. Luckily no one here is doing or suggesting doing that.
> Except you.
>
are taking place.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
Andrealphus wrote:
> In News 1157883337....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com,,
> rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
>
> > Ray Fischer wrote:
> >> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
> >>> abhorant.
> >>
> >> Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
> >> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
> >>
> > I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to kill
> > it
>
> Then stop killing children, liar Robert.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
we are not conscious. Boy, that will give you a lot of people to kill
some night, won't it?
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
bright to me.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
L. Michael Roberts wrote:
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> > Sean C wrote:
> >> In article <FLqdnYH1O8TeGJ7Y...@giganews.com>, J Young
> >> <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> What if the kids were atheists and the parents didn't want their kids
> >> taught by a fundamentalist Christian? Should they be forced to attend
> >> those classes?
> >>
> > I don't think children should be forced to attend school. School is an
> > evil place where children are taught all manner of falsehoods.
>
> I always knew that fundies hated education and would prefer kids remain
> ignorant and only read their ancient translated and mistranslated book
> of myths, superstition, death and incest!
Michael? I did not think there were any of you scientific people left
who wanted to talk about relativity with me?
Robert B. Winn
Samuel
Sgeo wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
> > abhorant.
> > I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
> > students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of
> > someone
> > they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> > have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
>
> honor requests to transfer classes?
Attempting to equate men dressing up as women with being an African
American is itself racist.
Samuel
J Young wrote:
> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
>
dressed as a woman, but you should not refer to that human being
(confused as he might be) as "it" -- which reduces that human being to
a mere object. Even dressed, as he is, as a woman he is still a "he"
and not an "it."
Lucifer
Religion is a symptom of a weak mind.
Profanity is merely using the language to it's full fucking extent.
> Robert B. Winn
V
rbw...@juno.com wrote:
The Bible says that God got woman not his wife pregnant. Cannot be that much
of a sin if your God does it.
"Christianity is a wonderful way of life and someone should actually attempt
it someday"
L.S. deGrey, Theologian
V
rbw...@juno.com wrote:
Oversimplification, Robert...not unusual for a conservative christian.
In fact, they know what sex that they are. It just happens to not be their anatomical
sex.
Recent brain studies support the concept that the brains of male to female
transsexuals are in fact neuroanatomically female based upon concentrations of BST_C
neurons in the ares that controls gender identity.
bobandcarole
WHAT??? LOL
They don't even know what sex they are..............
Tim McGaughy
> Andrealphus wrote:
>>>If you are going to take the name of Jesus Christ in vain, you would
>>>do better to not accuse him of sin.
>>
>>Misspelling a word is not a sin, liar Robert.
>>
>
> Accusing Jesus Christ of adultery is.
Go buttfuck Jesus. Again.
V
Samuel wrote:
You fundies do not get it.
We are discussing treatment for a condition that evidence supports is the result
of a neuroanatomical anomaly where a truly female brain is in a male body.
To obtain surgery, while being monitored by clinicians, the individual has to live
as a woman for a year.
After surgery, in most states, they are legally as well as anatomically female.
Andrealphus
Andrealphus
> --sexkitten-- wrote:
>> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>>
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>
>>>> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person
>>>>> is abhorant.
>>>>
>>>> Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
>>>> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to
>>> kill it just because you do not want it to be there.
>>
>> True. Luckily no one here is doing or suggesting doing that.
>> Except you.
>>
> Well, this is not the first time
That you have lied about people.
Andrealphus
> Andrealphus wrote:
>> In News 1157883337....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com,,
>> rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
>>
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
>>>>> abhorant.
>>>>
>>>> Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
>>>> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
>>>>
>>> I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to
>>> kill it
>>
>> Then stop killing children, liar Robert.
> You seem to be accusing me of killing children, Jim.
You worship a child killing deity, and are, therefore, guilty of killing
children.
Douglas Berry
<regn...@btinternet.com> posting the following on Sun, 10 Sep 2006
09:56:33 +0100 iin alt.atheism?
>Cross-dressing is either a
>choice, in which case it is morally unacceptable according to the Bible, or
>it is symptom of a mental problem.
Transvestism is a sexual fetish. But that's not what is going on
here. The teacher in question is a transexual, meaning that he is
going through the medical procedure to become a woman.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
--sexkitten--
Really? Where WAS the first time? Got a message ID or something?
Didn't think so. Because I never said any such thing.
--
--sexkitten--
Sneechres and the art of projection- part 3
1130732777.8...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Psychologists call it"leveling." You either have to inflate your own
sense of self-worth
somehow or try and bring others down to you.
1414fd53.04020...@posting.google.com
you're a whore
1414fd53.03012...@posting.google.com
*I* said you were a whore, and you are
1414fd53.02011...@posting.google.com
I don't own a vibrator,whore.
1414fd53.03121...@posting.google.com
you stupid whore
Douglas Berry
<bobandc...@webtv.net> posting the following on 10 Sep 2006
07:41:35 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
>WHAT??? LOL
>They don't even know what sex they are..............
Actually, they do. They problem is they are in the wrong gender's
body.
This is well established in medical literature. There are now known
differences in the brains of transexuals.. male-to-female TS have
brains that work more like a womans, and female-to-male TS folk have
more male brains.
Dennis Kemmerer
news:BsKdnZQVKcKJipnY...@golden.net...
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>> Sean C wrote:
>>> In article <FLqdnYH1O8TeGJ7Y...@giganews.com>, J Young
>>> <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>> What if the kids were atheists and the parents didn't want their kids
>>> taught by a fundamentalist Christian? Should they be forced to attend
>>> those classes?
>>>
>> I don't think children should be forced to attend school. School is an
>> evil place where children are taught all manner of falsehoods.
>
> I always knew that fundies hated education and would prefer kids remain
> ignorant and only read their ancient translated and mistranslated book of
> myths, superstition, death and incest!
It _does_ explain why Winn's such a fucking idiot.
Dennis Kemmerer
news:450424E5...@forVendetta.uk...
[snip]
> You fundies do not get it.
It's genetic. :)
[snip]
Ray Fischer
>If you are going to take the name of Jesus Christ in vain, you would do
>better to not accuse him of sin.
That's why it is a bad idea for you to blame Jesus for your repeated lying.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
>> >That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
>>
>> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
>>
>I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to kill
>it just because you do not want it to be there.
And another hateful thing to do is to lie about people and then blame
your lying on Jesus.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
Is there something wrong with falsely accusing people of killing
children? If it is wrong then why do you do it?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
John Baker
wrote:
>That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
If your spelling is anything to go by, you've never sat in any class.
>I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
>students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
>they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle.
Awwww. Poor widdle Godbots.
Mere words cannot convey my utter lack of sympathy.
>If the kids don't
>have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
There are legitimate reasons to request being transferred. Bigotry is
not one of them.
Free Lunch
rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
<4504485a$0$34551$742e...@news.sonic.net>:
Yet the people who persist in lying, even after their lies have been
pointed out to them, call themselves Christian.
Mark Sebree
bob&carole wrote:
> How in Gods name did this [person] get a teaching job in the first
> place???
[above statement correct, since no creatures are in evidence in the
news story]
By going to college and earning a teaching degree, and then getting a
teaching license in his/her state.
The exact same what that everyone else does. What's more, science
teachers are in chronically short supply, so he had a job lined up as
soon as he graduated, most likely.
The fact that this person is a transsexual has no bearing on his
teaching ability, and perhaps the students will learn more than earth
sciences from his class. Things like tolerance and understanding.
Lessons that you never seemed to have learned.
>
> It seems the recent Pharmacy break-in is solved.................
>
So, you broke into the pharmacy? You apparently decided to pick up the
hallucinogens, then.
Mark Sebree
>
> L. Michael Roberts wrote:
> > Malcolm wrote:
> > > "Sgeo" <sg...@opera.invalid.com> wrote in message
> > >> On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >> What if the teacher was black and the kids were racist? Should the school
> > >> honor requests to transfer classes?
> > >>
> > > Or what if he were an Aryan supremacist? Or a Papau-New Guinea cannibal?
> > >
> > > Ultimately we have to make moral judgements. Cross-dressing is either a
> > > choice,
> >
> > Consider educating yourself before opening your mouth [or in this case
> > typing] - there is a *big* difference between Cross-dressing and being a
> > transsexual
> >
> > > in which case it is morally unacceptable according to the Bible,
> >
> > Was it a private Christian school? If so, then the bible might be
> > relevant. If it was not a Christian school, the bible is TOTALLY
> > IRRELEVANT to the situation.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > --
> > +========= L. Michael Roberts - Goderich, Ontario, Canada ===========+
> > This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
> > To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail or your public PGP key
> > "Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry (Scratch)
>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
>> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
>>
> I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to kill
>
Well said. Because the individual is so self centered and selfish and
instead of allowing the child to be adopted like a normal human would
they they believe killing it will make their life better. Pretty sick.
Larry (Scratch)
>> <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
>>> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
>>> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
>>> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
>>>
>> taught by a fundamentalist Christian? Should they be forced to attend
>> those classes?
>>
> I don't think children should be forced to attend school. School is an
> evil place where children are taught all manner of falsehoods.
>
Or at least in PUBLIC schools.
Larry (Scratch)
You can teach your
> offstpring your manner of falsehoods.
Like about God and Country?
Larry (Scratch)
>
> bob&carole wrote:
>
>> J Young wrote:
>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
>>> I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
>>> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
>>> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
>>> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> place???
>
> intelligence.
Is this coming from personal experience?
Or just something Madam albright said?
Larry (Scratch)
> What's so funny about peace, love and "bobandcarole"
> <bobandc...@webtv.net> posting the following on 10 Sep 2006
> 07:41:35 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
>
>> WHAT??? LOL
>> They don't even know what sex they are..............
>
> Actually, they do. They problem is they are in the wrong gender's
> body.
oh, oh! here come the pod theorists. Wasn't there a sci-fi move about them?
ROTFL :)
Parsifal
J Young schrieb:
> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
Do you mean that you've become such a repulsive piece of shit because
you were forced to "be in the presence of someone living in an unclean,
immoral lifestyle"?
Actually, what happened to you to become such a repulsive moron?
> --
> ----------
>
> J Yöung
> youngo...@aol.com
Curt
"Andrealphus" <NOREAL...@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
news:WVSMg.17267
> With this particular "christian" (Robert Winn) it's the literal truth.
For some reason I don't get his posts anymore.
He certainly doesn't know much about the religion he espouses though. Over
on my home NG he argued for weeks about a bunch of theological stuff. He
made up "biblical sounding" phrases, misinterpreted actual passages, very
weird guy.
I guess he ran for something in New Mexico or Arizona or something a few
years ago and lost (surprise). Maybe he's just still mad about that.
Curt
Curt
"Larry (Scratch)" <Scr...@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
news:Lb-dnROj743F95nY...@comcast.com...
Who killed a child?
Curt
bobandcarole
Douglas Berry wrote:
> What's so funny about peace, love and "bobandcarole"
> <bobandc...@webtv.net> posting the following on 10 Sep 2006
> 07:41:35 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
>
> >WHAT??? LOL
> >They don't even know what sex they are..............
>
> Actually, they do. They problem is they are in the wrong gender's
> body.
That's bullshit, either you're a man or a woman.
They are psychotic faggots with a self mutilation fetish.
One things for sure, they won't be teaching in THIS district..........
Douglas Berry
<Scr...@Tigard.OR.com> posting the following on Sun, 10 Sep 2006
12:53:24 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
No, that was about alien invaders who replace you while you sleep.
This is about medicine. The first male-to-female surgical
reassignment took place in 1952 (4 years before the movie you refer to
came out, by the way). Medicine recognizes that some people
(estimated at 1 in 30,000 men and 1 in 100,000 women) are born with
incompatible sexual identities.
Now, can you discuss this in a sane manner, or are you limited to
snide comments?
bobandcarole
WV Bretts wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, "J Young" <youngo...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> >students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
> >they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> >have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
> >
> >
>
>
> Jesus fucking Christ, man, if you're gonna post stupid religious
> bullshit, at least fucking spell it correctly!!!
> __________________________________________________________
I wouldn't want my children taught by a person that doesn't know what
sex they are.
Luckily we didn't have these problems when I raised my kids, but
believe me I would yank my kids out of that school faster then it takes
a rump ranger to shoot AIDS in another rump rangers asshole.
Larry (Scratch)
> What's so funny about peace, love and "Larry (Scratch)"
> <Scr...@Tigard.OR.com> posting the following on Sun, 10 Sep 2006
> 12:53:24 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
>> Douglas Berry wrote:
>>> What's so funny about peace, love and "bobandcarole"
>>> <bobandc...@webtv.net> posting the following on 10 Sep 2006
>>> 07:41:35 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
>>>
>>>> WHAT??? LOL
>>>> They don't even know what sex they are..............
>>> Actually, they do. They problem is they are in the wrong gender's
>>> body.
>> oh, oh! here come the pod theorists. Wasn't there a sci-fi move about them?
>
> No, that was about alien invaders who replace you while you sleep.
>
> This is about medicine. The first male-to-female surgical
> reassignment took place in 1952 (4 years before the movie you refer to
> came out, by the way). Medicine recognizes that some people
> (estimated at 1 in 30,000 men and 1 in 100,000 women) are born with
> incompatible sexual identities.
>
> Now, can you discuss this in a sane manner, or are you limited to
> snide comments?
It's a pathetic twisted sickness like homosexuality. Only difference is
they like the knife.
bobandcarole
sex they are.
Luckily we didn't have these problems when I raised my kids, but
believe me I would yank my kids out of that school faster then it takes
a rump ranger to shoot AIDS in another rump rangers asshole.
Dionisio
>You fundies do not get it.
>
>
Understatement of not just the century, nor the millennia, but perhaps
of all time.
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
Andrealphus
Scr...@Tigard.OR.com, typed this:
Which God, and which country?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
Andrealphus
this:
The guy is kind of an idiot. Anyone that spent more than a few seconds
listening to him would realize it pretty quick. Since he lives in a trailer
in Maricopa, Arizona, I doubt that his campaign fund was more than his
current welfare check and maybe some box tops. So it's little wonder that
he couldn't win.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
Dionisio
>Christians hate sex, probably because they can't get laid.
>
>
The problem isn't that they can't get laid, but that they object to the
price.
Dionisio
>I did not think there were any of you scientific people left
>who wanted to talk about relativity with me?
>
>
Relatively speaking, you should be a dead end. But no responsible
scientist would ever put that to the test.
Dionisio
>Luckily we didn't have these problems when I raised my kids, but
>believe me I would yank my kids out of that school faster then it takes
>a rump ranger to shoot AIDS in another rump rangers asshole.
>
>
Go! Speed-yanker! Go!
Mark Sebree
Larry is obviously limited to ignorant snide comments.
>
> It's a pathetic twisted sickness like homosexuality.
Since homosexuality is not a sickness, nor is it pathetic or twisted in
any way in any case, that means that GID is not a sickness either. And
it is not a sickness.
> Only difference is they like the knife.
What knife? And what makes you think that they like it? The get the
sex change done in order to complete themselves, and so that their
physical image matches their mental image.
Perhaps you should learn something about the subject that you are
writing about. And you need to learn about it from reputable source,
like reputable medical doctors and resources.
Mark Sebree
rbw...@juno.com
Dionisio wrote:
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>
> >I did not think there were any of you scientific people left
> >who wanted to talk about relativity with me?
> >
> >
>
> Relatively speaking, you should be a dead end. But no responsible
> scientist would ever put that to the test.
Well, since they want to remain in darkness, I believe that would be a
good place for them. If a photon is traveling along the x axis of a
set of Cartesian coordinates in the negative direction, what is the
velocity of the photon relative to the set of Cartesian coordinates?
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
Andrealphus wrote:
> In News 12g92bt...@corp.supernews.com,, Curt at c...@hevanet.com, typed
> this:
>
> > "Andrealphus" <NOREAL...@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
> > news:WVSMg.17267
> >
> >> With this particular "christian" (Robert Winn) it's the literal
> >> truth.
> >
> > For some reason I don't get his posts anymore.
> >
> > He certainly doesn't know much about the religion he espouses though.
> > Over on my home NG he argued for weeks about a bunch of theological
> > stuff. He made up "biblical sounding" phrases, misinterpreted actual
> > passages, very weird guy.
> >
> > I guess he ran for something in New Mexico or Arizona or something a
> > few years ago and lost (surprise). Maybe he's just still mad about
> > that.
> >
> > Curt
>
> The guy is kind of an idiot. Anyone that spent more than a few seconds
> listening to him would realize it pretty quick. Since he lives in a trailer
> in Maricopa, Arizona, I doubt that his campaign fund was more than his
> current welfare check and maybe some box tops. So it's little wonder that
> he couldn't win.
>
pro-abortion police state.
Robert B. Winn
Andrealphus
rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
Suuuuureee you would, liar Robert.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
Ray Fischer
>Well said. Because the individual is so self centered and selfish and
>instead of allowing the child to be adopted like a normal human would
>they they believe killing it will make their life better. Pretty sick.
10,000 people, mostly children, die of hunger each and every day
worldwide. Tell us again how you're not self-centered and selfish and
how you give all your free time and spare money to help those children.
Tell again how many times you been in the hospital from injuries
helping children.
No, you can't, can you? All you can do is demand that other people
make the sacrifices while you sit on your ass.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
rbw...@juno.com
Elections here are party controlled, and political offices are bought,
not obtained through free elections.
Robert B. Winn
Ray Fischer
>Dionisio wrote:
>> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>>
>> >I did not think there were any of you scientific people left
>> >who wanted to talk about relativity with me?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Relatively speaking, you should be a dead end. But no responsible
>> scientist would ever put that to the test.
>
>Well, since they want to remain in darkness, I believe that would be a
>good place for them. If a photon is traveling along the x axis of a
>set of Cartesian coordinates in the negative direction,
Photons do not travel in a "negative" direction. They also do not
travel along "Cartesian coordinates".
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
rbw...@juno.com
Ray Fischer wrote:
> <rbw...@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> >L. Michael Roberts wrote:
> >> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> >> > Sean C wrote:
> >> >> In article <FLqdnYH1O8TeGJ7Y...@giganews.com>, J Young
> >> >> <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> >> What if the kids were atheists and the parents didn't want their kids
> >> >> taught by a fundamentalist Christian? Should they be forced to attend
> >> >> those classes?
> >> >>
> >> > I don't think children should be forced to attend school. School is an
> >> > evil place where children are taught all manner of falsehoods.
> >>
> >> I always knew that fundies hated education and would prefer kids remain
> >> ignorant and only read their ancient translated and mistranslated book
> >> of myths, superstition, death and incest!
> >So are you saying that you want to discuss the theory of relativity, L.
> >Michael? I did not think there were any of you scientific people left
> >who wanted to talk about relativity with me?
>
>
I understand it well enough to see what your heroic scientists are
doing wrong. What is the velocity of a photon relative to a set of
Cartesian coordinates if the photon is proceeding along the x-axis of
the Cartesian coordinates in the negative direction?
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
> >> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> >>
> >> Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you. That
> >> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
> >>
> >I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to kill
> >it just because you do not want it to be there.
>
> your lying on Jesus.
>
That certainly is a hateful thing, Ray.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> >> >>> students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
> >> >>> they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> >> >>> have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >> "ABHORRENT"!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Jesus fucking Christ, man, if you're gonna post stupid religious
> >> >> bullshit, at least fucking spell it correctly!!!
> >> >> __________________________________________________________
> >> >>
> >> >> therewith to be Bretts. (Phillipians 4:11)
> >> > If you are going to take the name of Jesus Christ in vain, you would do
> >> > better to not accuse him of sin.
> >> > Robert B. Winn
> >> >
> >> On what fucking bizzarro world is bad spelling a sin?
> >Let's put it this way. Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make
> >a strong statement.
>
> Lying is a sign of a soul given over to satan.
>
Thank you, Ray. Also, continual accusations is a sign of a soul given
over to Satan.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
Dennis Kemmerer wrote:
> "L. Michael Roberts" <L_Michae...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:BsKdnZQVKcKJipnY...@golden.net...
> > rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> >> Sean C wrote:
> >>> In article <FLqdnYH1O8TeGJ7Y...@giganews.com>, J Young
> >>> <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>> What if the kids were atheists and the parents didn't want their kids
> >>> taught by a fundamentalist Christian? Should they be forced to attend
> >>> those classes?
> >>>
> >> I don't think children should be forced to attend school. School is an
> >> evil place where children are taught all manner of falsehoods.
> >
> > I always knew that fundies hated education and would prefer kids remain
> > ignorant and only read their ancient translated and mistranslated book of
> > myths, superstition, death and incest!
>
Profanity is the attempt of a weak mind to make a strong statement.
rbw...@juno.com
Andrealphus wrote:
> In News 1157897287.3...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,> >> In News 1157883337....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com,,
> >>>> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
> >>>>> abhorant.
> >>>>
> >>>> way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
> >>>>
> >>> I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to
> >>> kill it
> >>
> > You seem to be accusing me of killing children, Jim.
>
> You worship a child killing deity, and are, therefore, guilty of killing
> children.
>
You are a pro-abortion fanatic, therefore, anything you say is not even
worth considering.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
Andrealphus wrote:
> In News 1157896829.4...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,> >> In News 1157883164.7...@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,,> >>> WV Bretts wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 23:22:10 -0400, "J Young"
> >>>> <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is
> >>>>> mean the right of students should be violated by forcing them to
> >>>>> be in the presence of someone they feel to be living an unclean,
> >>>>> inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't have a problem with it, then
> >>>>> fine; let it teach.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "ABHORRENT"!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> Jesus fucking Christ, man, if you're gonna post stupid religious
> >>>> bullshit, at least fucking spell it correctly!!!
> >>>> __________________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> I have learned, in whatsoever state I am (WV)
> >>>> therewith to be Bretts. (Phillipians 4:11)
> >>> If you are going to take the name of Jesus Christ in vain, you would
> >>> do better to not accuse him of sin.
> >>
> >>
> > Accusing Jesus Christ of adultery is.
>
> Not if it's true.
Well, my suggestion would be to wait until Jesus Christ returns to
judge the earth and to make your accusation to him in person.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
Tim McGaughy wrote:
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
> > Andrealphus wrote:
>
> >>>If you are going to take the name of Jesus Christ in vain, you would
> >>>do better to not accuse him of sin.
> >>
> >>Misspelling a word is not a sin, liar Robert.
> >>
> >
> > Accusing Jesus Christ of adultery is.
>
Discuss it with Jesus Christ when he returns to judge the earth. I am
not interested in your problems.
Robert B. Winn
rbw...@juno.com
V wrote:
> rbw...@juno.com wrote:
>
> > V wrote:
> > > bob&carole wrote:
> > >
> > > > J Young wrote:
> > > > > That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person is abhorant.
> > > > > I'm not denying it's right to teach, but that does not mean the right of
> > > > > students should be violated by forcing them to be in the presence of someone
> > > > > they feel to be living an unclean, inmmoral lifestyle. If the kids don't
> > > > > have a problem with it, then fine; let it teach.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Parent: "I have to go home and tell a 14 year old you have to talk to a
> > > > > teacher who's a male in female clothing"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BATAVIA, New York, September 8, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A school district
> > > > > in western New York has refused to transfer high school students out of
> > > > > classes being taught by a transsexual teacher, denying a request by parents.
> > > > >
> > > > > Five parents submitted written requests to the district board, asking that
> > > > > their children be removed from the classroom of a male teacher undergoing
> > > > > sex change medical treatment, WSTM.com reported. The earth sciences teacher
> > > > > has begun dressing as a woman. The teacher has been with the Batavia School
> > > > > District for eight years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Superintendent Richard Stutzman said the parents' requests did not meet the
> > > > > district guidelines. Other students were granted transfers based on changes
> > > > > to their program of study.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Batavia School District held an information meeting for parents August
> > > > > 28. Legal experts presented information on the teacher's rights and
> > > > > protections to more than 100 parents, reported News 10NBC. A transgender
> > > > > expert and a doctor were also in attendance. Parents received notification
> > > > > of the situation one week before the meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some parents were dismayed by the news. "I have to go home and tell a 14
> > > > > year old you have to talk to a teacher who's a male in female clothing. And
> > > > > if you don't address her as a she in 2 weeks, it's harassment because you
> > > > > should be transitioned by now," Batavia parent Amber Robinson told News
> > > > > 10NBC after the meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > > The district plans to hold a community-wide meeting on the issue September
> > > > > 12th.
> > > >
> > > > How in Gods name did this creature get a teaching job in the first
> > > > place???
> > >
> > > Transsexuals statistically tend to have consistently higher than average
> > > intelligence.
> > >
> > Someone who cannot figure out what sex they are does not seem overly
> > bright to me.
> > Robert B. Winn
>
> Oversimplification, Robert...not unusual for a conservative christian.
> In fact, they know what sex that they are. It just happens to not be their anatomical
> sex.
> Recent brain studies support the concept that the brains of male to female
> transsexuals are in fact neuroanatomically female based upon concentrations of BST_C
> neurons in the ares that controls gender identity.
I do not believe your recent brain studies. Any person can choose with
regard to morality.
Immoral people will do just about anything to get attention.
Robert B. Winn
> one"
> Valerie, in "V for Vendetta"
Andrealphus
> Andrealphus wrote:
>> In News 1157897287.3...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com,,
>> rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
>>
>>> Andrealphus wrote:
>>>> In News 1157883337....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com,,
>>>> rbw...@juno.com at rbw...@juno.com, typed this:
>>>>
>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> J Young <youngo...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> That any child would be forced to sit in class with this person
>>>>>>> is abhorant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which is why children aren't forced to sit in class with you.
>>>>>> That way they won't be as likely to corrupted by your hate.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think the most hateful thing that can be done to a child is to
>>>>> kill it
>>>>
>>>> Then stop killing children, liar Robert.
>>> You seem to be accusing me of killing children, Jim.
>>
>> You worship a child killing deity, and are, therefore, guilty of
>> killing children.
>>
> You are a pro-abortion
Nope, liar Robert, I've never been pro-Abortion. That is another lie from
you. You, however, worship a deity that has admitted in your bible that he
has murdered millions of children. You are, therefore, guilty of
participating in the murders of children.