5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
J
Pro-choice. It figures.
http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=11485216
5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
LEXINGTON, Mo. -- Five members of a family are charged in Missouri with sex
crimes against children. The five men arrested Tuesday are charged with
several felonies, including forcible sodomy, rape with a child less than 12
years old and use of a child in a sexual performance. Allegations include
bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old to have an abortion. Authorities are
searching property outside Bates City that is owned by the family. Lafayette
County Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh said Wednesday that authorities believe
there may be a body or bodies buried on the land. The sheriff is asking for
the public's help in the investigation, saying that "there may be other
victims out there."
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
IAAH
> Pro-choice. It figures.
Pedophilia? Sounds like Catholics.
Explain how forcing abortion is 'pro-choice',
won't you?
You needn't answer if you were just being a
dumbass troll.
--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
Bertrand Russell
Sanders Kaufman
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>
> Pedophilia? Sounds like Catholics.
That's true throughout most of the world.
But in the Confederate states, pedophilia is practiced by many different
sects.
Interestingly, if you check the list of names of active newsgroups, you'll
find that most of the "recovery" ones are about recovering from abuse by
religious nuts.
And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from the same
place - the Confederate states.
Ray Fischer
>
>Pro-choice.
They're ministers, nazi turd. Anti-choice just like you nazi turds.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
JTEM
Lars Eighner
J broadcast on tx.politics:
> Pro-choice. It figures.
Moron, it figures.
> http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=11485216
An '80s style "recovered memories" case --- how quaint --- complete with
large number of imaginary victims and imaginary evidence that cannot be
found. When a few more of these case blow up in the faces of Kentucky law
enforcement, perhaps they will be ready for the 21st Century.
"Recovered Memories" --- your assurance of utter bullshit.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5918, 1993
296 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.
Lars Eighner
J broadcast on tx.politics:
> Pro-choice. It figures.
Moron, it figures.
> http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=11485216
An '80s style "recovered memories" case --- how quaint --- complete with
large number of imaginary victims and imaginary evidence that cannot be
found. When a few more of these case blow up in the faces of Missouri law
Sanders Kaufman
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Not likely.
According to the FBI, the kids used to write their stories and then seal
them in jars and bury them.
Right now, the feds have an excavator out there - and they're finding a lot
more than just jars.
In the preliminary ground survey, they found several potential grave sites.
The interesting thing about this is how they operated there for like 3 or 4
generations without getting caught.
According to everyone who knew them and was interviewed by the media, they
were great people.
Apparently, in religious hillbilly communities like this one, a family of
rapists is not unusual at all.
What I'd like to see is a larger investigation into the community - to see
just how many families there are just like this one.
Sanders Kaufman
news:slrnhfq6r9...@debranded.larseighner.com...
> An '80s style "recovered memories" case --- how quaint --- complete with
> large number of imaginary victims and imaginary evidence that cannot be
> found. When a few more of these case blow up in the faces of Missouri law
> enforcement, perhaps they will be ready for the 21st Century.
Actually - the evidence is coming up in droves.
They've already found several of the burried bottles, and now they're
looking at suspected grave sites.
At the command center, kids are handing in very detailed reports about the
rapings.
Where you go wrong here is in two places.
First - these are not "recovered memories". The kids never forgot what was
done to them.
Second - you presume that religious hillbillies won't rape their own
children.
That second one - that's about as stupid of a mistake as anyone can ever
make.
The important thing here is that the cops have put these ministers are in
jail - and that they likely won't ever get out.
The oldest is 77 - so his ministerial self will probably die in prison in a
few, short years
The youngest is 43, so even if he does ever get out, he'll be monitored
until he reoffends.
And if there's one thing you can be absolutely certain of, it's that these
particular rapists will reoffend if allowed to go free.
The GOOD NEWS is that, while they are in prison, they'll be very popular
with the more violent prison gangs.
This means that they'll get to engage in their favorite pass-time - big
people raping little people.
Just think - how much CALMER the other inmates will be when they can take
their aggressions out on these 5 guys.
It's a win-win for everyone!
Nosterill
> Pro-choice. It figures.
Your first words contradict your own subject line! This could be a
speed record even for you. Read the subject that YOU wrote: It says
"Forced Abortion". Where's the choice in that?
Boo Radley
"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
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>
> Pro-choice. It figures.
Looked more like they were auditioning to become Catholic Priests.
LC
> LEXINGTON, Mo. -- Five members of a family are charged in Missouri with
> sex crimes against children. The five men arrested Tuesday are charged
> with several felonies, including forcible sodomy, rape with a child less
> than 12 years old and use of a child in a sexual performance. Allegations
> include bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old to have an abortion.
Hmmmm....bestiality, sodomy, pedophilia?
Well, now we know a little more about "J's" family.
�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
** In a survey of high-school Senior girls, 1 in 4 reported that they had
had one or more sexual experiences with a family member.
>
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�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
� as surely as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.
�R.L.Measures
<Kil...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
� Not if they were boning little girls.
Syd M.
Sanders Kaufman
news:r-1311090...@10.0.1.7...
> In article <D79Lm.16198$We2....@newsfe09.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
>> What I'd like to see is a larger investigation into the community - to
>> see
>> just how many families there are just like this one.
>
> ** In a survey of high-school Senior girls, 1 in 4 reported that they had
> had one or more sexual experiences with a family member.
I believe it.
I was at a New Year's party once where a drunk redneck chick was acting the
fool.
I *thought* I was just being silly when I said, "You're from the south -
what relation are your parents?".
She got all boo-hooey on me and said, "Second cousins" and then she started
lisping about how it's legal where she comes from and that they were in
luuuuuuv.
The woman who's family was hosting the party had to throw her out later when
her kids walked in on the screwing a couple of guys in the garage.
Spartakus
> Pro-choice. It figures.
Your own source contradicts you. You know these crimes were committed
by Mormon religionists; hence your choice of newsgroups.
> http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=11485216
"Three of the five men are lay ministers in the
Community of Christ church whose licenses
have been suspended, church spokeswoman
Linda L. Booth said."
The Community of Christ Church is a spin-off from the Church of Latter-
Day Saints. Mormons, in other words.
You owe us an apology.
Boo Radley
> <Kil...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
>
>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
>> news:39fkbc....@news.alt.net...
>> >
>> > Pro-choice. It figures.
>>
>> Looked more like they were auditioning to become Catholic Priests.
>
Catholic Priests rape little girls too but not as often as they rape little
boys. I was surprised to that they let priests that love vagina into their
boyraping cult.
Sanders Kaufman
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> Catholic Priests rape little girlls too but not as often as they rape
> little boys. I was surprised to that they let priests that love vagina
> into their boyraping cult.
Likely, they didn't WANT to let them in, but didn't have much of a choice.
Once you get a little dirt on Catholics, you OWN them.
They've got nun-fuckers black-mailing baby-ballers who are black-mailing
embezzlers who are black-mailing the worshipers.
�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
** incredible.
�R.L.Measures
<Kil...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> news:r-1311090...@10.0.1.7...
> > In article <FYcLm.6406$cd7....@newsfe04.iad>, "Boo Radley"
> > <Kil...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> >> news:39fkbc....@news.alt.net...
> >> >
> >> > Pro-choice. It figures.
> >>
> >> Looked more like they were auditioning to become Catholic Priests.
> >
> > . Not if they were boning little girls.
>
> Catholic Priests rape little girls too but not as often as they rape little
> boys. I was surprised to that they let priests that love vagina into their
> boyraping cult.
** In setlement with the Archdiocese of L. A. there were only 6 girls out
of at least 450 boys.
Enkidu
> 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
Yeah, all good Christians, too.
Are all Christians child-rapists? No, but being a Christian didn't stop
them from raping children.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men."
- Voltaire
Smiler
They do say that a change is as good as a rest.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
�R.L.Measures
enk...@nogodhere.net wrote:
> J wrote:
>
> > 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
>
> Yeah, all good Christians, too.
>
> Are all Christians child-rapists? No, but being a Christian didn't stop
> them from raping children.
� According to Christian doctrine, the salvic blood of Jesus washes away
all sin - even the sin of 4309 Catholic priests diddling children,
�R.L.Measures
> .R.L.Measures wrote:
> > In article <ukjLm.1224$JC2...@newsfe06.iad>, "Boo Radley"
> > <Kil...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
> >
> >> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> >> news:r-1311090...@10.0.1.7...
> >>> In article <FYcLm.6406$cd7....@newsfe04.iad>, "Boo Radley"
> >>> <Kil...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:39fkbc....@news.alt.net...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pro-choice. It figures.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looked more like they were auditioning to become Catholic Priests.
> >>>
> >>> . Not if they were boning little girls.
> >>
> >> Catholic Priests rape little girls too but not as often as they rape
> >> little boys. I was surprised to that they let priests that love
> >> vagina into their boyraping cult.
> >
> > ** In setlement with the Archdiocese of L. A. there were only 6
> > girls out of at least 450 boys.
>
> They do say that a change is as good as a rest.
** As I understand it, the priests who had coitus with the 6 girls were
not into altar-boys.
Liz
>
> 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
>
> crimes against children. The five men arrested Tuesday are charged with
> several felonies, including forcible sodomy, rape with a child less than 12
> years old and use of a child in a sexual performance. Allegations include
> bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old to have an abortion.
You might have more credibility if you actually read the articles you
cutnpaste. Well, maybe not. You had a knee-jerk reaction when you
read the word abortion and totally disregarded the fact that force
takes choice out of the equation. Most tellingly, the rapes, the
sodomy, and the possible murders of children don't rate a word of
condemnation from you. These monstrous acts are the epitome of
antichoice, but you merely erroneously and unthinkingly spout "pro-
choice" as if that were the most egregious act that could possibly be
committed. You are an beyond an idiot and a despicable ass.
It seems that you forgot to paste the rest of the story where
unsurprisingly it reveals that these evil people were religious:
~Three of the five men are lay ministers in the Community of Christ
church whose licenses have been suspended, church spokeswoman Linda L.
Booth said.~
Oh hold on a minute, you say, it's okay their licenses have been
suspended so they aren't *really* ministers. But wait, there's more:
~Booth, the church spokeswoman, said none of the Mohlers served in
leadership roles in the congregations they attended "nor did they
serve as volunteer youth workers, teach children or youth church
school, or work with children or youth."
"The church takes seriously the allegations that have been made and
suspended the priesthood licenses of three lay ministers: Burrell
Mohler Sr., David Mohler and Jared Mohler," the church said in a
statement.~
Oh gee, the license were only suspended AFTER the criminal allegations
have been made. So they were working as lay ministers up to the time
when these men were arrested. And it continues:
~Booth said one of the men, whom she refused to identify, had been
registered to work with children but that license has been
terminated.~
That is probably appropriate under the circumstances, she said in
deliberate understatement.
Liz #658
Sanders Kaufman
news:075d6021-d20d-4045...@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
> It seems that you forgot to paste the rest of the story where
> unsurprisingly it reveals that these evil people were religious:
That would be like saying that a suicide bomber or the pope is religious.
When a band of rapists in the south whose crime spans several generations -
their religiousness is a given.
philosophy
You ignorant arsehole.
Now, let's see. Hugh Nibleys daughter was sexually raped by him.
Such an upstanding man. Moron males are allowed to beat their
children and wives. Oops, or am I talking about Muslims?
Seem the same to me.
>
> http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=11485216
>
> 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
>
> LEXINGTON, Mo. -- Five members of a family are charged in Missouri with sex
> crimes against children. The five men arrested Tuesday are charged with
> several felonies, including forcible sodomy, rape with a child less than 12
> years old and use of a child in a sexual performance. Allegations include
> bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old to have an abortion. Authorities are
> searching property outside Bates City that is owned by the family. Lafayette
> County Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh said Wednesday that authorities believe
> there may be a body or bodies buried on the land. The sheriff is asking for
> the public's help in the investigation, saying that "there may be other
> victims out there."
>
> --
> J Young
> Jvisi...@live.com
philosophy
> "IAAH" <n...@email.exist> wrote in message
>
> news:hdiusn$7m2$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
>
> > Pedophilia? Sounds like Catholics.
>
> That's true throughout most of the world.
> But in the Confederate states, pedophilia is practiced by many different
> sects.
>
> Interestingly, if you check the list of names of active newsgroups, you'll
> find that most of the "recovery" ones are about recovering from abuse by
> religious nuts.
> And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from the same
> place - the Confederate states.
And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for pedophilia
through marrying young women - just like the prophet Mohamed.
Sanders Kaufman
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Thank GOD they've been able to resist such temptation.
Let us pray that the Christians someday develop the same level of
self-discipline and decency.
�R.L.Measures
<bfd16956-ddb5-4e60...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
philosophy <catswhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 5:47=A0pm, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> > "IAAH" <n...@email.exist> wrote in message
> >
> > news:hdiusn$7m2$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Pedophilia? Sounds like Catholics.
> >
> > That's true throughout most of the world.
> > But in the Confederate states, pedophilia is practiced by many different
> > sects.
> >
> > Interestingly, if you check the list of names of active newsgroups, you'l=
> l
> > find that most of the "recovery" ones are about recovering from abuse by
> > religious nuts.
> > And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from the same
> > place - the Confederate states.
>
> And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for pedophilia
> through marrying young women - just like the prophet Mohamed.
� The youngest woman that "prophet-seer-revelator" Joseph Smith, Jr
apparently had coitus with was Helen Mar Kimball (born Aug. 22, 1828,
married J. Smith, Jr. May, 1843). In some
States having coitus with a 14 yr old would make him an ephebophile.
However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
fin
Sanders Kaufman
> However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
> youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
> would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims - regardless of
your impossible "what-if" scenario.
Here, in the US, it's the Christians who are raping babies... for REAL.
That's why these five... I mean six... Christians are in lock-up.
Ray Fischer
>philosophy <catswhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Interestingly, if you check the list of names of active newsgroups, you'l=
>> l
>> > find that most of the "recovery" ones are about recovering from abuse by
>> > religious nuts.
>> > And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from the same
>> > place - the Confederate states.
>>
>> And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for pedophilia
>> through marrying young women - just like the prophet Mohamed.
>
>� The youngest woman that "prophet-seer-revelator" Joseph Smith, Jr
>apparently had coitus with was Helen Mar Kimball (born Aug. 22, 1828,
>married J. Smith, Jr. May, 1843). In some
>States having coitus with a 14 yr old would make him an ephebophile.
>However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
>youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
>would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
Except the the problem that Mohammed lived a thousand years before the
creation of the United States, and "marriage" did not equal "sex".
Meanwhile, today, "christian" ministers are going to prison for "marrying"
(with sex) girls that young.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
philosophy
So, I gather you are not a Christian. I mean you couldn't possibly be
part of a religion that regards these ingrates as "fine upstanding
men". The only thing that was ever upstanding about them was their
bloody penises.
philosophy
> R.L.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
Yes, scarey stuff.
Oh, are some of these ministers, Mormon, perchance?
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfisc...@sonic.net
�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> news:r-1511091...@10.0.1.7...
>
> > However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
> > youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
> > would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
>
> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims -
** Guffaw!
regardless of
> your impossible "what-if" scenario.
> Here, in the US, it's the Christians who are raping babies... for REAL.
>
> That's why these five... I mean six... Christians are in lock-up.
>
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�R.L.Measures
> R.L.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
> >philosophy <catswhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Interestingly, if you check the list of names of active newsgroups,
you'l=
> >> l
> >> > find that most of the "recovery" ones are about recovering from abuse by
> >> > religious nuts.
> >> > And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from the same
> >> > place - the Confederate states.
> >>
> >> And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for pedophilia
> >> through marrying young women - just like the prophet Mohamed.
> >
> >� The youngest woman that "prophet-seer-revelator" Joseph Smith, Jr
> >apparently had coitus with was Helen Mar Kimball (born Aug. 22, 1828,
> >married J. Smith, Jr. May, 1843). In some
> >States having coitus with a 14 yr old would make him an ephebophile.
> >However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
> >youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
> >would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
>
> Except the the problem that Mohammed lived a thousand years before the
> creation of the United States, and "marriage" did not equal "sex".
>
� If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
Ayesha bore children?
> Meanwhile, today, "christian" ministers are going to prison for "marrying"
> (with sex) girls that young.
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
Smiler
> In article <4b00788b$0$1630$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> rfis...@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> R.L.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
>>> philosophy <catswhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Interestingly, if you check the list of names of active
>>>>> newsgroups, you'l= l find that most of the "recovery" ones are
>>>>> about recovering from abuse by religious nuts.
>>>>> And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from
>>>>> the same place - the Confederate states.
>>>>
>>>> And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for
>>>> pedophilia through marrying young women - just like the prophet
>>>> Mohamed.
>>>
>>> apparently had coitus with was Helen Mar Kimball (born Aug. 22,
>>> 1828, married J. Smith, Jr. May, 1843). In some
>>> States having coitus with a 14 yr old would make him an ephebophile.
>>> However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with
>>> his youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old,
>>> Muhammad would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
>>
>> Except the the problem that Mohammed lived a thousand years before
>> the creation of the United States, and "marriage" did not equal
>> "sex".
>>
> . If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
> Ayesha bore children?
>
It was Allah who did it...and she was still a virgin :-)
Sanders Kaufman
> In article <MwZLm.4341$JC2....@newsfe06.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
>> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims -
>
> ** Guffaw!
I said "Muslim" not "Mormon".
With Mormons pedophilia is certainly a problem.
With Muslims, it's not.
Sanders Kaufman
news:Y7nMm.132018$Sn4....@newsfe15.ams2...
> .R.L.Measures wrote:
>> . If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
>> Ayesha bore children?
>
> It was Allah who did it...and she was still a virgin :-)
Or maybe she simply found some pre-Mormon Catholics to take care of it.
�R.L.Measures
<Smi...@joe.king.com> wrote:
** Another perpetual virgin who bore children!
�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
** In Islam, it is not a sin in Allah's eyes to have sex with 9-yr old girls.
Sanders Kaufman
> ** In Islam, it is not a sin in Allah's eyes to have sex with 9-yr old
> girls.
Judging by how the Christians are behaving, it's OK with them, too.
Ray Fischer
>In article <4b00788b$0$1630$742e...@news.sonic.net>, rfis...@sonic.net wrote:
>
>> R.L.Measures <r...@somis.org> wrote:
>> >philosophy <catswhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Interestingly, if you check the list of names of active newsgroups,
>you'l=
>> >> l
>> >> > find that most of the "recovery" ones are about recovering from abuse by
>> >> > religious nuts.
>> >> > And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from the same
>> >> > place - the Confederate states.
>> >>
>> >> And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for pedophilia
>> >> through marrying young women - just like the prophet Mohamed.
>> >
>> >� The youngest woman that "prophet-seer-revelator" Joseph Smith, Jr
>> >apparently had coitus with was Helen Mar Kimball (born Aug. 22, 1828,
>> >married J. Smith, Jr. May, 1843). In some
>> >States having coitus with a 14 yr old would make him an ephebophile.
>> >However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
>> >youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
>> >would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
>>
>> Except the the problem that Mohammed lived a thousand years before the
>> creation of the United States, and "marriage" did not equal "sex".
>>
>� If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
>Ayesha bore children?
What an impressively stupid question. Tell us: Did she bear children
when she was nine yuears old? Or did he marry her young and then wait
for several years befgore sex?
>> Meanwhile, today, "christian" ministers are going to prison for "marrying"
>> (with sex) girls that young.
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Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
** Catholic priests humping 9-yr old girls? Boys maybe.
Jimbo
> In article <MInMm.20171$gi1.5...@newsfe19.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
>
> <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> > ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> >news:r-1611090...@10.0.1.7...
>
> > >> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims -
>
> > > ** Guffaw!
>
> > I said "Muslim" not "Mormon".
> > With Mormons pedophilia is certainly a problem.
> > With Muslims, it's not.
>
> ** In Islam, it is not a sin in Allah's eyes to have sex with 9-yr old girls.
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
Sounds like Southern Baptist prior to circa 1965 or so.
�R.L.Measures
� As I understand it, the "prophet" approached her father - abu Bekr -
about marrying her when she was three. The marriage took place when she
was six. She moved in wth Muhammad when she was 8-years and 10-months
old. I do not know when the children were born. He died when she was
18.
("The Cradle of Erotica" by Allen Edwardes and R. E. L. Masters (Julian
Press, Inc., N.Y.),
Sanders Kaufman
> In article <HGqMm.20049$rE5...@newsfe08.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
>> Judging by how the Christians are behaving, it's OK with them, too.
>
> ** Catholic priests humping 9-yr old girls? Boys maybe.
Those are the stories that make the headlines.
But it's by no means the extent of their sexual predation.
Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
there's no Catholic sin.
But the sex with little boys violates both theirs and our laws - so
eventually many get reported.
The Catholic phrase for screwing a little girl is "getting lucky".
The Master
> Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
> There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
> there's no Catholic sin.
> But the sex with little boys violates both theirs and our laws - so
> eventually many get reported.
Why not just screw the nuns then, or any adult female?
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Ray Fischer
> "Sanders Kaufman"
>> > girls.
>>
>> Judging by how the Christians are behaving, it's OK with them, too.
>
>** Catholic priests humping 9-yr old girls? Boys maybe.
WINDSOR - Convicted pedophile Reverend Charles Sylvestre blames
his victims, other clergy and a school principal for the abuse he
caused nearly 50 young girls, Ontario Crown Paul Bailey said
yesterday.
"What we have here is a man who minimized his own involvement,
blamed others, showed no [remorse] whatsoever to the psychological
carnage that he caused," Mr. Bailey said.
Mr. Bailey told a crowd of about 200 priests, deacons and other
religious staff gathered at a sexual abuse workshop that he
recently met with Sylvestre in jail to try "to understand what
made him tick."
Sylvestre was under no obligation to speak to Mr. Bailey, but did
so nonetheless, giving the lawyer disturbing insight into the
84-year-old's distorted psyche.
"According to him, these eight-year-old girls planned the
destruction of their own lives," Mr. Bailey said.
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=a9b28207-58bd-4e0d-b8fe-57be11a56f73
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Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
�R.L.Measures
<3ba8722e-1122-4398...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
<ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 10:58=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> > In article <MInMm.20171$gi1.5...@newsfe19.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
> >
> > <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> > > ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> > >news:r-1611090...@10.0.1.7...
> > > > In article <MwZLm.4341$JC2.2...@newsfe06.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
> >
> > > >> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims -
> >
> > > > ** =A0Guffaw!
> >
> > > I said "Muslim" not "Mormon".
> > > With Mormons pedophilia is certainly a problem.
> > > With Muslims, it's not.
> >
> > ** =A0In Islam, it is not a sin in Allah's eyes to have sex with 9-yr old=
> girls.
> >
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
>
> Sounds like Southern Baptist prior to circa 1965 or so.
** chortle
�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> news:r-1711090...@10.0.1.7...
> > In article <HGqMm.20049$rE5...@newsfe08.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
>
> >> Judging by how the Christians are behaving, it's OK with them, too.
> >
> > ** Catholic priests humping 9-yr old girls? Boys maybe.
>
> Those are the stories that make the headlines.
> But it's by no means the extent of their sexual predation.
>
** In the $660,000,00 settlement in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, less
than 1% went to girls and over 99% went to altar-boys.
,
> Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
> There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
> there's no Catholic sin.
** There is nothing in the RCC's Vow of Chastity about not having sex
with little boys.
> But the sex with little boys violates both theirs
** Show us.
> and our laws - so
> eventually many get reported.
>
> The Catholic phrase for screwing a little girl is "getting lucky".
>
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
Sanders Kaufman
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0...@sdf.lonestar.org...
They do that, too.
Men, women, boys, girls - whatever.
�R.L.Measures
<tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
� there is only so much room in the rose gardens of convents for unwanted
babies?
IMO,the problem of priests having sex with children is exacerbated by the
current practice of teaching priiest-candidates that children simply
outgtow the experience of having had sex with an adult, and teaching
priests that having sex with a fertile woman is more sinful than having
sex with a boy. [Unholy Acts, by Paul Wilkes, p.61 The New Yorker
Magazine, June 7, 1993]
�R.L.Measures
� Some bizarre shit. Thanks Ray. Fr. Paul Shanley claimed that he was
seduced by an especially cute 6-yr old boy.
�R.L.Measures
� Chortle. . Can you prove that?
Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net wrote:
>> The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
>> >On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> >> Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
>> >> There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
>> >> there's no Catholic sin.
>> >> But the sex with little boys violates both theirs and our laws - so
>> >> eventually many get reported.
>> >
>> >Why not just screw the nuns then, or any adult female?
>>
>> Because pedophiles are sexually attracted to children.
>
>� Chortle. . Can you prove that?
Duh, yes!
pedophile: a person who is sexually attracted to children.
New Oxford American Dictionary
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
The Master
>>>>> Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
>>>>> There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
>>>>> there's no Catholic sin.
>>>>> But the sex with little boys violates both theirs and our laws - so
>>>>> eventually many get reported.
>>>>
>>>> Why not just screw the nuns then, or any adult female?
>>>
>>> Because pedophiles are sexually attracted to children.
LOL! Not quite what I meant... Isn't things like pedophilia, or at the
very least rape, already listed as sins? In the case of boys, I think
it's Leviticus 20:9 that says male homosexuality is a sin punishable by
death. No reference is made, however, concerning female homosexuality,
God bless lesbians!
.
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�R.L.Measures
<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
** different strokes for different folks.
�R.L.Measures
� sounds reasonable. thanks
�R.L.Measures
<tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
� Amen. My take on the guys who run the LdS church is that they are not
aware that girls masturbate at least as often as do boys, and girls start
doing it at an earlier age - some as young as 3-years.
>
> .
> .
> .
> .
Smiler
Even Queen Victoria couldn't believe that 'two women could do such a thing'
and refused to outlaw female homosexuality on those grounds. Parliament had
to exclude Lesbianism from the bill banning homosexuality before she would
sign it into law. IIRC, that's the last time a UK monarch refused to sign a
bill into law.
Jimbo
Pedophiles are not typically interested in adult sexual
relationships. Some are, and some get married to keep up appearances
mostly. The reason that the priesthood attracts so many pedophiles is
due to the fact that it's the one vocation that they can pursue that:
A. Allows them free and easy access to children/teens. B. Allows
them to operate without being questioned as to their lack of an adult
sex partner. C. Has an employer that shields them from prosecution,
and even provides them with fresh victims in a new hunting ground if
the situation becomes volitile.
All and all the Catholic Church is a good deal for pedophiles.
Jimbo
<tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote:
> >>>>> Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
> >>>>> There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
> >>>>> there's no Catholic sin.
> >>>>> But the sex with little boys violates both theirs and our laws - so
> >>>>> eventually many get reported.
>
> >>>> Why not just screw the nuns then, or any adult female?
>
> >>> Because pedophiles are sexually attracted to children.
>
> LOL! Not quite what I meant... Isn't things like pedophilia, or at the
> very least rape, already listed as sins?
Religious organizations not following the tenets of their religion...
Is that a new concept to you?
Jimbo
> On Nov 16, 6:29 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>
> > ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
>
>
> > > However, since "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
> > > youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
> > > would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.
>
> > your impossible "what-if" scenario.
> > Here, in the US, it's the Christians who are raping babies... for REAL.
>
> > That's why these five... I mean six... Christians are in lock-up.
>
> So, I gather you are not a Christian. I mean you couldn't possibly be
> part of a religion that regards these ingrates as "fine upstanding
> men". The only thing that was ever upstanding about them was their
> bloody penises.
And you know that... how?
Jimbo
>
> • If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
> Ayesha bore children?
>
Perhaps the same way that 14 year old Mary turned up pregnant when
Joseph wasn't boning her? Just a guess. :D
JTEM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> "JTEM" <jte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > Sounds like false memories, actually.
>
> Not likely.
Excessively likely.
> According to the FBI,
Well, it's one of those things which the evidence would
have to speak for itself...
> the kids used to write their stories and then seal
> them in jars and bury them.
According to the story, no jars where found. They were
still looking.
> Right now, the feds have an excavator out there - and
> they're finding a lot more than just jars.
Cites, please.
I have yet to see anything claiming a find.
JTEM
r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures) wrote:
> ** In a survey of high-school Senior girls, 1 in 4 reported that they had
> had one or more sexual experiences with a family member.
In this newsgroup, not one person has seen or even read
about any evidence to support these claims.
Again, by all appearances these are false memories.
There. Are. No. Jars.
JTEM
Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
> "Recovered Memories" --- your assurance of utter bullshit.
What gets me is how many people in this thread are willing
to lap up a story like this, as if it were ice cream.
That "Saunders Kaufman" nut is claiming they found all kinds
of evidence, when the story doesn't claim to have found ANY.
JTEM
"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> Actually - the evidence is coming up in droves.
You're saying this on November 13th, when no report
claims any physical evidence what so ever.
This story dated to four days later strongly indicates
that the stories are bogus:
http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/1577239-p2.html
> They've already found several of the burried bottles,
What they actually claim is that they found pieces of "a"
glass jar. This is hardly a noteworthy find, especially
given what was (or still is) a rural area.
> and now they're looking at suspected grave sites.
Now they've ruled out a murder which was described to
them in rather graphic detail.
> At the command center, kids are handing in very
> detailed reports about the rapings.
Don't forget the murders!
> Where you go wrong here is in two places.
Oh, the irony...
�R.L.Measures
<5d365885-3d34-4636...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
<ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 7:03=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> >
> > =95 =A0If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
> > Ayesha bore children?
> >
>
> Perhaps the same way that 14 year old Mary turned up pregnant when
> Joseph wasn't boning her? Just a guess. :D
** My guess is that prophets have gherkins.
cheers J.
�R.L.Measures
<79590a8c-8f6e-46bb...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, JTEM
<jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
> > ** =A0In a survey of high-school Senior girls, 1 in 4 reported that they =
> had
> > had one or more sexual experiences with a family member. =A0
>
> In this newsgroup, not one person has seen or even read
> about any evidence to support these claims.
>
> Again, by all appearances these are false memories.
>
> There. Are. No. Jars.
** One of my sisters friends named Sally told my sister that she had
coitus with her 4 brothers when she was in high school, and she is still
pretty close with two of them.
JTEM
r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures) wrote:
> In article JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Again, by all appearances these are false memories.
>
> > There. Are. No. Jars.
>
> ** One of my sisters friends named Sally told my sister that
> she had coitus with her 4 brothers when she was in high
> school, and she is still pretty close with two of them.
Okay. But there are no jars, no bodies and no missing
person case to account for a lost body.
What physical evidence there is all strongly points to one
thing and one thing only: It never happened.
Jimbo
>
> <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 7:03=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
> > > =95 =A0If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
> > > Ayesha bore children?
>
> > Perhaps the same way that 14 year old Mary turned up pregnant when
> > Joseph wasn't boning her? Just a guess. :D
>
> ** My guess is that prophets have gherkins.
>
> cheers J.
>
> --
> R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
LOL! Most likely. Quite likely that any number of unmarried girls/
women turned up pregnant claiming immaculate conception. :D
�R.L.Measures
<4e5fc710-afeb-4c5d...@p32g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, JTEM
<jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
>
> > In article JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Again, by all appearances these are false memories.
> >
> > > There. Are. No. Jars.
> >
> > ** =A0One of my sisters friends named Sally told my sister that
> > she had coitus with her 4 brothers when she was in high
> > school, and she is still pretty close with two of them.
>
> Okay. But there are no jars, no bodies and no missing
> person case to account for a lost body.
>
> What physical evidence there is all strongly points to one
> thing and one thing only: It never happened.
** different subject
�R.L.Measures
<f9e71b71-0b2e-45c8...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
<ckdb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 20, 3:31=A0pm, r...@somis.org (=95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> > In article
> > <5d365885-3d34-4636-be85-67d095a43...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Jimb=
> o
> >
> > <ckdbig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Nov 16, 7:03=3DA0am, r...@somis.org (=3D95R.L.Measures) wrote:
> >
> > > > =3D95 =3DA0If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was=
> it that
> > > > Ayesha bore children?
> >
> > > Perhaps the same way that 14 year old Mary turned up pregnant when
> > > Joseph wasn't boning her? =A0 Just a guess. =A0:D
> >
> > ** =A0My guess is that prophets have gherkins.
> >
> > cheers J.
> >
> > --
> > R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734,www.somis.org
>
> LOL! Most likely. Quite likely that any number of unmarried girls/
> women turned up pregnant claiming immaculate conception. :D
** As I understand it, when the daughters of local chiefs of Native
American Indian tribes became pregnant, it was often asttributed to
immaculate conception.
Logan Sacket
In the Roman Catholic meaning ???
�R.L.Measures
logan....@gmail.com wrote:
� Not quite. Meaning that, the chief's daughter was supposedly a virgin
when conception took place.