Patrick L. Humphrey (The Chief Instigator)

[Gwen Bennet]

To all those whom this may concern: as a friend of Patrick, and with
permission from his widow Dale, I regret to inform you that Patrick
passed away on Thursday, March 7th, 2013, after a lengthy illness.

If there are any questions or concerns, please do contact me outside
of this newsgroup, at the e-mail attached to this post. I'm so
terribly sorry.

[J]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:22:40 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
<hypa...@comcast.net> wrote:

>I wonder if this was sent by J. He's sent false death reports before.



I've never sent a false death report, crazy old hag.

Gwen is telling the truth; a true rarity

http://www.harlanobits.net/previous-obits2/3009-patrick-humphrey





J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

[%]

hypatiab7 wrote:
> On Mar 11, 11:22 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:19:59 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7

>>
>> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On Mar 11, 7:27 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> This is probably a troll trying to get people to download a virus.
>>> Why would they send such a message and crosspost it to two abortion
>>> newsgrous. I deleted the crossposting.
>>
>> I hope it's not genuine.
>
> I do, too.


i re added the groups

[%]

hypatiab7 wrote:
> On Mar 11, 7:27 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder if this was sent by J. He's sent false death reports before.

yay

[Syd M.]

On Mar 11, 11:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:22:40 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>

> <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >On Mar 11, 7:27 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> To all those whom this may concern: as a friend of Patrick, and with
> >> permission from his widow Dale,  I regret to inform you that Patrick
> >> passed away on Thursday, March 7th, 2013, after a lengthy illness.
>
> >> If there are any questions or concerns, please do contact me outside
> >> of this newsgroup, at the e-mail attached to this post. I'm so
> >> terribly sorry.
>
> >I wonder if this was sent by J. He's sent false death reports before.
>
> I've never sent a false death report, crazy old hag.
>
> Gwen is telling the truth; a true rarity
>
> http://www.harlanobits.net/previous-obits2/3009-patrick-humphrey
>
>

Then it must be a lie.

PDW

[Gwen Bennet]

No - it isn't. He was indeed buried in his home town, only yesterday.

He and I had been friends for 12 years and I met him through the
newsgroups when I stilled lived in South Africa, back in the early
2000s. We had spoken frequently, telephonically since 2003 and
exclusively to Dale, when Patrick became sicker in the last year.

He did not pass in 2011 - that was a story fabricated by J and his
sock puppets because they could not account for his elongated absence
and they had nothing else better to do. Though I had known the truth
about his circumstances all along, I was not at liberty to disclose
what kept Patrick from posting.

I cross-posted this information, because I know Patrick had
connections in these newsgroups. I know there are others, but I would
not know where to begin to post, as I'm not aware of them.

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 11, 11:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

[...]

> I've never sent a false death report...


You, indeed, helped to circulate the false stories, if not created
them, in 2011, about his alleged passing when he was very much alive.
Those who knew the real circumstances surrounding his absence didn't
feel they were at liberty to disclose them, only to say that what you
were posting and had posted, wasn't factual.

[Syd M.]

On Mar 12, 5:13 am, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 3:21 am, "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 11, 11:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:22:40 -0700 (PDT), hypatiab7
>
> > > <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >On Mar 11, 7:27 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> To all those whom this may concern: as a friend of Patrick, and with
> > > >> permission from his widow Dale,  I regret to inform you that Patrick
> > > >> passed away on Thursday, March 7th, 2013, after a lengthy illness.
>
> > > >> If there are any questions or concerns, please do contact me outside
> > > >> of this newsgroup, at the e-mail attached to this post. I'm so
> > > >> terribly sorry.
>
> > > >I wonder if this was sent by J. He's sent false death reports before.
>
> > > I've never sent a false death report, crazy old hag.
>
> > > Gwen is telling the truth; a true rarity
>
> > >http://www.harlanobits.net/previous-obits2/3009-patrick-humphrey
>
> > Then it must be a lie.
>
> > PDW
>
> No - it isn't. He was indeed buried in his home town, only yesterday.
>
>

Sorry, no. I suspect you are IBen, lying again.

PDW

[Gwen Bennet]

My Google-Groups posting history is extensive, albeit Iben Gettiner
(Lapcatt) had used my newsgroup identity to forge posts from time to
time in the last five and a half years I have had this name, you'll
see that I'm not Iben/J Young. It doesn't matter, anyway - the truth
is that Patrick had indeed passed away on 7th, March in Texas from a
lengthy illness and was laid to rest in hometown in Kentucky on 10th,
March.

I circulated the message with permission from his widow as I had no
other way of contacting his online friends and contacts in three
newsgroups in which I know he used to heavily participate.

[The Chief Instigator]

Nope. She ain't lying. I'm really dead.

[%]

you never looked better

[elizabeth]

On Mar 11, 8:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

Too bad it wasn't you. But that would be a cause for merriment if you
did die.

[Syd M.]

It's only a flesh wound!!

PDW

[J]

Those posts originated from Craig Chilton and were validated as being
his posts. Being an old friend of Patrick and Dale, I was only trying
to help spread the word far and wide.



Haven't your ugly mug around here lately. Still trying to solicit men
to spend a night with you in Massachusetts? Try 'Syd', he's right up
your alley.



>

[elizabeth]

On Mar 13, 11:32 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet

snip
More proof your mother should have aborted.

> Haven't your ugly mug around here lately. Still trying to solicit men
> to spend a night with you in Massachusetts? Try 'Syd', he's right up
> your alley.

Not all women are like the women in your family, whatever you are, "J"

[Syd M.]

On Mar 14, 2:32 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>

> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 11, 11:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >[...]
>
> >> I've never sent a false death report...
>
> >You, indeed, helped to circulate the false stories, if not created
> >them, in 2011, about his alleged passing when he was very much alive.
> >Those who knew the real circumstances surrounding his absence didn't
> >feel they were at liberty  to disclose them, only to say that what you
> >were posting and had posted, wasn't factual.
>
> Those posts originated from Craig Chilton and were validated as being
> his posts. Being an old friend of Patrick and Dale,

Lie.

>
> Haven't your ugly mug around here lately. Still trying to solicit men
> to spend a night with you in Massachusetts? Try 'Syd', he's right up
> your alley.
>

And a insult.
You just refuse to be a decent human being, huh, IBen?

PDW

[whocares]

On Mar 14, 2:32 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>

> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 11, 11:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >[...]
>
> >> I've never sent a false death report...
>
> >You, indeed, helped to circulate the false stories, if not created
> >them, in 2011, about his alleged passing when he was very much alive.
> >Those who knew the real circumstances surrounding his absence didn't
> >feel they were at liberty  to disclose them, only to say that what you
> >were posting and had posted, wasn't factual.
>
> Those posts originated from Craig Chilton

If I'm not mistaken, you're the one behind the Chilton impostor that
spread the original lie. In fact, you're behind several forgeries
using the identities of several posters, here. There isn't any reason
to believe you

> and were validated as being
> his posts.

I bet you thought that wearing the Chilton moniker made you fart
worthy to the likes of Heishman. I don't know about him, but you can
stick a lit firework up your fat rear and blow your lower anatomy and
the 40 pounds of waste in it away, and nobody would care.

The people who knew Patrick and knew his circumstances also knew that
you were lying about it and that you were the one behind the
forgeries. I suppose no answer is not an answer but his suffering,
though your timing was sorely off, was the answer you had wished for.
In that case, I wish it was you that suffered and perished
prematurely, and not Patrick.

> Being an old friend of Patrick and Dale, I  was only trying
> to help spread the word far and wide.

The only thing you spread was Herpes.

> Haven't your ugly mug around here lately. Still trying to solicit men
> to spend a night with you in Massachusetts?

I should think that any man (or woman) who attempts to shame a woman
for her (perceived) sexuality, has a dubious past interlinked with
sex. They would rather die than share (of course, you might be one of
these online voyeurs who doesn't mine using the cameras on the mobile
devices to secretly record crude sex acts and then upload it to those
graphic sex sites).

Usually when said individuals are threatened by a woman's sexuality,
they blame the woman for their misdeeds and perversity.They'll go far
to glorify rape to justify their hatred - which is something you have
been known to endorse in the groups.

>Try 'Syd', he's right up
> your alley.

I'm fairly certain Syd's interests are elsewhere.

[J]

On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:59:31 -0700 (PDT), whocares
<bennetw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 14, 2:32 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>>

>

>If I'm not mistaken,

Still using multiple nyms, Gwenny? Patrick always said you were lower
than pond scum; he obviously knew what he was talking about.

Now do everyone a favor and get lost. You certainly haven't been
missed.


J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 15, 12:54 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:59:31 -0700 (PDT), whocares
>

> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 14, 2:32 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>
> >If I'm not mistaken,
>
> Still using multiple nyms, Gwenny?

Same account, idiot.

[elizabeth]

Poor "J" ... I wonder how many use that handle?

[Gwen Bennet]

If my memory serves me well, I believe he ripped it off from a poster
by the name of Jon Young out in the D.C. area, while he was posting as
IBen Getiner. The original Jon Young had nothing to do with the
abortion newsgroups.

[elizabeth]

I guess the dumber you are, the easier it is to think that you're
fooling anyone by using a different handle .. but saying the same
shit .. . and then there are handles that trolls love to use. It's
sad, really, people who are so ashamed of themselves that they won't
own their words.

Which is why I use only my real name. I own my words.

[Craig Chilton]

Good riddance.

[pnyikos]

On Mar 14, 10:59 pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 14, 2:32 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 03:12:51 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>
> > <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Mar 11, 11:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > >[...]
>
> > >> I've never sent a false death report...
>
> > >You, indeed, helped to circulate the false stories, if not created
> > >them, in 2011, about his alleged passing when he was very much alive.
> > >Those who knew the real circumstances surrounding his absence didn't
> > >feel they were at liberty  to disclose them, only to say that what you
> > >were posting and had posted, wasn't factual.
>
> > Those posts originated from Craig Chilton
>
> If I'm not mistaken, you're the one behind the Chilton impostor that
> spread the original lie. In fact, you're behind several forgeries
> using the identities of several posters, here.

This has often been alleged of J, and while I haven't seen
incontrovertible proof, the circumstantial evidence seems fairly good.

> > and were validated as being
> > his posts.

Chilton stoutly denied having made them when it was brought to his
attention.

By the way, where is Chilton these days?

[vulgar screed snipped]

> The people who knew Patrick and knew his circumstances also knew that
> you were lying about it and that you were the one behind the
> forgeries.

Too many people claiming knowledge when they only had suspicions.
Reasonable ones to be sure, but still suspicions.

> I suppose no answer is not an answer but his suffering,
> though your timing was sorely off, was the answer you had wished for.
> In that case, I wish it was you that suffered and perished
> prematurely, and not Patrick.

J is no paragon, but Patrick was even worse from what I saw of the two
of them.

> > Being an old friend of Patrick and Dale, I  was only trying
> > to help spread the word far and wide.
>
> The only thing you spread was Herpes.
>
> > Haven't your ugly mug around here lately. Still trying to solicit men
> > to spend a night with you in Massachusetts?
>
> I should think that any man (or woman) who attempts to shame a woman
> for her (perceived) sexuality,  has a dubious past interlinked with
> sex.

In that case, you must have a very low opinion of the people who call
pro-life mothers like Susanne Forgach "baby factories".

>
>  Usually when said individuals are threatened by a woman's sexuality,
> they blame the woman for their misdeeds and perversity.

Back around 1990, someone crossposted a reply to Suzanne to soc.motss,
she replied without noticing the addition, and the hate mail from
homosexuals went on for a long time. "baby factory" was one of the
milder epithets she endured.

Patrick Humphrey once threatened her in e-mail to take a baseball bat
to her.

> They'll go far
> to glorify rape to justify their hatred - which is something you have
> been known to endorse in the groups.

As "J"? or as someone suspected to be a sock puppet of his?

> >Try 'Syd', he's right up
> > your alley.
>
> I'm fairly certain Syd's interests are elsewhere

How would you know? are you a sock puppet of Gwen, as J claims?

Peter Nyikos

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 29, 12:07 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Mar 14, 10:59 pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:

[vulgar snipped]

> > The people who knew Patrick and knew his circumstances also knew that
> > you were lying about it and that you were the one behind the
> > forgeries.
>

> Too many people claiming knowledge,...

ONE person claimed knowledge and the other is in possession of the
facts.

I possess the facts. Patrick is gone. :(

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 29, 12:34 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

<...>

It'll be a happy day when you expire, paedorapist.

[J]

Everybody read the obit, stupid twat. Not just you.

'elizabeth' posted that he died from AIDS, but Paddy's friends from
alt.appalachian say that's untrue.




J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

Honesty. Decency. Integrity

[elizabeth]

On Mar 28, 9:34 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

He's gone Oopsey again . ...

> >How would you know?  are you a sock puppet of Gwen, as J claims?
>

> I don't know if they're the same person but both are sick bitches.
> Gwen is a slut who thinks nothing of inviting men from Usnet to come
> to her home. Elizabeth is a transsexual ( not known if pre or post op
> ) who has occassionally posted under the nym 'Craig Chilton'

coming from someone who is too ashamed and/or has legal reasons not to
use his real name ... way to prove how obsessed you are!

[elizabeth]

> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> Honesty. Decency. Integrity

And since I made no such post, ask your pal "Heishman" (ya know, the
one in the reflection from the screen) what libel means.

[J]

Sure thing 'gwen', 'craig', robert winn' or whatever name you're
posting under today.

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.appalachian/msg/d752117c1d4ebeae?hl=en

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 29, 4:16 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 29, 12:07 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> On Mar 14, 10:59 pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >[vulgar snipped]
>
> >> > The people who knew Patrick and knew his circumstances also knew that
> >> > you were lying about it and that you were the one behind the
> >> > forgeries.
>
> >> Too many people claiming knowledge,...
>
> >ONE person claimed knowledge and the other is in possession of the
> >facts.
>
> >I possess the facts. Patrick is gone. :(
>
> Everybody read the obit, stupid twat. Not just you.

Ibenachildrapist, I was in possession of the facts -- the facts to
which you are not privy -- before I knew an obituary was available. (I
can't vouch for the legitimacy of the publication of the obituary,
until I have spoken with the relevant people, as I've some concerns
about it.)

> 'elizabeth' posted that he died from AIDS, but Paddy's friends from
> alt.appalachian say that's untrue.

I'm also unaware of the forgeries you may have posted in
alt.appalachain.

[Gwen Bennet]

He is the sole troll behind all of the forgeries in the last ten years
- maybe longer. Heishman had a few of his own, but that was years ago.

[Gwen Bennet]

> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.appalachian/msg/d752117c1d4ebeae?...

I thought Winn was incarcerated or institutionalized?

[J]

Make up your mind, Einstein. Either I'm 'Heishman' or I'm not.

[J]

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 05:13:53 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
<bennetw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 29, 4:16�pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>>
>>
>> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Mar 29, 12:07�am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> On Mar 14, 10:59�pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >[vulgar snipped]
>>
>> >> > The people who knew Patrick and knew his circumstances also knew that
>> >> > you were lying about it and that you were the one behind the
>> >> > forgeries.
>>
>> >> Too many people claiming knowledge,...
>>
>> >ONE person claimed knowledge and the other is in possession of the
>> >facts.
>>
>> >I possess the facts. Patrick is gone. :(
>>
>> Everybody read the obit, stupid twat. Not just you.
>
>Iben a child rapist

Been? When did you stop being one?

> I was in possession of the facts -- the facts to
>which you are not privy -- before I knew an obituary was available.

Well, WHOOPIE-DAMN-DO for you. Does that make you special? Who gives a
shit what you know or when you knew it? This isn't the Kennedy
assasination.

> (I
>can't vouch for the legitimacy of the publication of the obituary,
>until I have spoken with the relevant people, as I've some concerns
>about it.)

So sorry to hear his family didn't wait for your approval

>> 'elizabeth' posted that he died from AIDS, but Paddy's friends from
>> alt.appalachian say that's untrue.
>
>
>I'm also unaware of the forgeries you may have posted in
>alt.appalachain.

As you were told earlier, Guv Bob has been around aa longer than you.

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 30, 3:17 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 05:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 29, 5:30 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 28, 9:34 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >> He's gone Oopsey again . ...
>
> >> > >How would you know?  are you a sock puppet of Gwen, as J claims?
>
> >> > I don't know if they're the same person but both are sick bitches.
> >> > Gwen is a slut who thinks nothing of inviting men from Usnet to come
> >> > to her home. Elizabeth is a transsexual ( not known if pre or post op
> >> > ) who has occassionally posted under the nym 'Craig Chilton'
>
> >> coming from someone who is too ashamed and/or has legal reasons not to
> >> use his real name ... way to prove how obsessed you are!
>
> >He is the sole troll behind all of the forgeries in the last ten years
> >- maybe longer. Heishman had a few of his own, but that was years ago.
>
> Make up your mind,

Heishman had forged the writings of a couple of posters, to get back
at them, a classic J move, but his bullshit pales in comparison to
yours. The letter "from" the NY Times is a glaring example - it did
nothing to discredit his newsgroup adversary.

You, on the other hand, are the sole person to have so vehemently
impersonated many people, including deceased people, idiots like
Heishman, absentee posters, average men, women, some barn animals, and
a mentally incapacitated erstwhile poster by the name of Robert Winn.
Some tried to outwit you, including Heishman and some old timers, but
you're responsible for all of it, I'm convinced.

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 30, 3:32 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 05:13:53 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 29, 4:16 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>
> >> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Mar 29, 12:07 am, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >> On Mar 14, 10:59 pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >[vulgar snipped]
>
> >> >> > The people who knew Patrick and knew his circumstances also knew that
> >> >> > you were lying about it and that you were the one behind the
> >> >> > forgeries.
>
> >> >> Too many people claiming knowledge,...
>
> >> >ONE person claimed knowledge and the other is in possession of the
> >> >facts.
>
> >> >I possess the facts. Patrick is gone. :(
>
> >> Everybody read the obit, stupid twat. Not just you.
>
> >Iben  a child rapist
>
> Been? When did you stop being one?
>
> > I was in possession of the facts -- the facts to
> >which you are not privy -- before I knew an obituary was available.
>
> Well, WHOOPIE-DAMN-DO for you. Does that make you special?

You'd have not written this bullshit and impersonated and forged
Patrick, for the past couple of years in his absence, trying to suss
information about it.

[elizabeth]

> https://groups.google.com/group/alt.appalachian/msg/d752117c1d4ebeae?...

>
> J Young
> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> Honesty. Decency. Integrity

So, someone pulled a Heishman on me and tried to forge my identity?
Gee, I wonder who .. .
round up the usual suspect(s)

[elizabeth]

> jdyou...@ymail.com
>
> Honesty. Decency. Integrity

Well, the truth is, the world would be a far better place without
Heishman and any of those who has used your handle!\\
YOu suck, and your mother should have swallowed.

[Ky Moonbeam81]

Patrick had been diabetic since he was twelve years old. He would have been
fifty eight this coming May twentieth.
His right leg was amputated several months ago and he never really recovered
. There were recurring infections and
several transient ischemic accidents (mini strokes) ... then, on march
fifth, his heart just stopped and despite heroic
efforts of resuscitation by the medics they were unable to get a pulse and
respiration for over thirty minutes . He was
put on life support until tests were done that would acertain brain death.
The tests were done march seventh at ten
o'clock. The doctors called me to let me know he was legally brain dead. I
told them to take him off life support
and if you don't think that tore my heart in two.... try it sometime. They
called me back fifteen minutes later to tell
me he had been "pronounced" at ten fifteen. I had to find a Houston mortuary
to pick him up from the hospital
because I was told that if no one picked up his body within three hours it
would be sent to the morgue. They got
him immediately, embalmed him and flew him to Knoxville Tennessee the next
day (friday) and the local funeral
director drove to Knoxville and brought him home.On sunday morning, march
tenth,we had a graveside service.
Patrick is now resting beside his grandparents (my mother and daddy) on a
beautiful mountainside and he is
home in his beloved Kentucky. This is what happened to The Chief
Instigator.... no "aids" and no permission to
anyone to report his demise except Gov Bob. He was a good son, maybe too
smart for his own good (he had
an IQ of 167) and I'm sure he irritated some people with his particular
sense of humor, but there wasn't a mean
bone in his body. So... please let him rest in peace, and his old mother
too.












"Gwen Bennet" <bennetw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5471f690-805c-4a6d...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...

[J]

"Gwen Bennet" <bennetw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:5471f690-805c-4a6d...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...

Happy now, stupid cunt? You've caused enough trouble both around here
and with Patrick's family. Nobody missed you these past 2 years and
nobody will miss you once your gone again. Now, get lost!!


p.s. Take that tramp 'elizabeth' with you

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 30, 9:24 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> "Gwen Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:5471f690-805c-4a6d...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>
> Happy now,

I've appraised Mrs. Humphrey of the situation. You may have stirred
trouble temporarily for his family, my friendships, and for me, but
the truth always prevails, and it will, in this situation, too.

Now you may expire.

[Gwen Bennet]

There's only one, now. The rest are either institutionalized,
incarcerated, or deceased.

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 12, 3:09 pm, elizabeth <elizabethfran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 8:33 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> Too bad it wasn't you.  But that would be a cause for merriment if you
> did die.

Indeed. And, I wish "it" would expire, in a violent manner.

[J]

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:54:47 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
<bennetw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 30, 9:24 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> "Gwen Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:5471f690-805c-4a6d...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Happy now,
>
>I've appraised Mrs. Humphrey of the situation.

I'm sure she really needed you to "appraise" her of the situation.
Where would those poor people be without you? Did you make all the
corrections on his obit that they got wrong and hadn't gotten your
prior approval of?

[Gwen Bennet]

On Mar 31, 10:39 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:54:47 -0700 (PDT), Gwen Bennet
>

> <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 30, 9:24 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >> "Gwen Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:5471f690-805c-4a6d...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Happy now,
>
> >I've appraised Mrs. Humphrey of the situation.
>
> I'm sure she really needed you to "appraise" her of the situation.

Since it is believed that *I* trolled Patrick in the post, it's my
responsibility to clarify things, since it's YOU, under various 'nyms
and impersonating others, who's done all of the trolling of him, as of
late!

[elizabeth]

On Mar 30, 6:24 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> "Gwen Bennet" <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:5471f690-805c-4a6d...@a14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...

You've completely Oopseyed out again!

> Happy now, stupid cunt? You've caused enough trouble both around here
> and with Patrick's family. Nobody missed you these past 2 years and
> nobody will miss you once your gone again. Now, get lost!!
>
> p.s. Take that tramp 'elizabeth' with you

Or, you could promise to leave the ng forever like Heishman and then
keep coming back . ...

[james g. keegan jr.]

In article
<37f046f5-44c7-4ac2...@p5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On Mar 14, 10:59�pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]
> J is no paragon, but Patrick was even worse from what I saw of the two
> of them.


one might thing that even a well-known plagiarist like you, an imbecile
who claims to hold a phd and teach at a fairly credible institution,
would refrain from slamming the dead.

but then, you're on the very low end.

[james g. keegan jr.]

In article <3%J5t.13792$g93....@fed11.iad>,

amen.

[J]

I know you and Patrick were friends. My condolences to you.

[james g. keegan jr.]

In article <668bp81mif0nrlb35...@4ax.com>,

Thank you.

[pnyikos]

On May 16, 5:02 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <37f046f5-44c7-4ac2-8ac6-c46aa5fe9...@p5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

>
>
>
>  pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 10:59 pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]
> > J is no paragon, but Patrick was even worse from what I saw of the two
> > of them.
>
> one might thing that even a well-known plagiarist like you,

Lie number 1: I am not a plagiarist, but you fit one definition, as I
explained to Bill Mosco on a thread where you and that pro-Nazi Topaz
had a *de facto* non-aggression pact going, as did your henchwoman
elizabeth and Topaz.


> an imbecile

Lie number 2: I am far more intelligent than you, who are in
talk.abortion under false pretenses, lacking the intelligence to
discuss abortion.

Have you even TRIED to discuss abortion some time in the last 20
years? The last post I saw from you that did that was in 1992.

Or was that your father--was your father the real James G. Keegan,
Jr.?

> who claims to hold a phd and teach at a fairly credible institution,

Both are true, and you don't even have the guts to try and find out
about it. Your henchman Spartakus, who has been gone for over a year,
was the last person who could even do a halfway convincing job of
pretending to doubt that I am a Professor at the University of South
Carolina.

Does he have AIDS too, like what Patrick died of?

> would refrain from slamming the dead.

Dead or alive, he deserves to have the unvarnished truth known about
him.

Next thing you know, you will be singling out people who write what a
monster Hitler was, accusing them of being "on the very low end"
because they are "slamming the dead."

> but then, you're on the very low end.

You've got that backwards, as usual.

Peter Nyikos
Professor, University of South Carolina -- standard disclaimer--
Ph.D 1971, Carnegie-Mellon University

[pnyikos]

On May 16, 5:03 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <3%J5t.13792$g93.7...@fed11.iad>,
>  "Ky Moonbeam81" <kymoonb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

What a moniker! This dude actually claimed to be Patrick's father
below. How can anyone take that claim seriously?

How did his body get from Knoxville to Kentucky?

> > This is what happened to The Chief
> > Instigator.... no "aids" and no permission to
> > anyone to report his demise except Gov Bob.

Who the hell is Gov. Bob, and how is it that Gwen Bennet claimed he
did die of AIDS?

> > He was a good son, maybe too
> > smart for his own good (he had
> > an IQ of 167)

He sure knew how to simulate an IQ of 50 or even 40. I gave him one
of my monthly awards back in the early 1990's.

And I never saw any evidence that he had an IQ higher than 100.

> > and I'm sure he irritated some people with his particular
> > sense of humor, but there wasn't a mean
> > bone in his body.

He threatened in e-mail to come at Suzanne Forgach with a baseball
bat, and lied without shame to protect his pal Keegan. Also he kept
insinuating that Heishman had been fired from his job with the Smyrna,
Delaware police.

He also made a racist comment to an African-American and said he'd
only apologize if the insulted person came in person to his office in
Rice U. to collect it. Then he revealed that had this African-
American tried to do that, he would have been arrested for
trespassing.

He also wrote that any congratulations from me for being a grandfather
would be met with a live grenade with the pin pulled.

I'd say he had lots of mean bones in his body.

> > So... please let him rest in peace, and his old mother
> > too.
>
> amen.

That's funny, coming from an atheist like you.

Peter Nyikos

[%]

you mean it wouldn't be funny if it came from an atheist not like him

[james g. keegan jr.]

In article
<0644413a-0fbf-4d93...@g3g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,

pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On May 16, 5:02 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <37f046f5-44c7-4ac2-8ac6-c46aa5fe9...@p5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >  pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > On Mar 14, 10:59 pm, whocares <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > J is no paragon, but Patrick was even worse from what I saw of the two
> > > of them.
> >
> > one might thing that even a well-known plagiarist like you,
>
> Lie number 1: I am not a plagiarist

your post was cut following your first lie, plagiarist.

[Syd M]

On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:27:21 PM UTC-7, Gwen Bennet wrote:
> To all those whom this may concern: as a friend of Patrick, and with
>
> permission from his widow Dale, I regret to inform you that Patrick
>
> passed away on Thursday, March 7th, 2013, after a lengthy illness.
>
>
>
> If there are any questions or concerns, please do contact me outside
>
> of this newsgroup, at the e-mail attached to this post. I'm so
>
> terribly sorry.





Lying bitch. I spoke with Patrick this morning, he's doing fine. He's been away on business. That's all.






PDW

[cra...@comcast.net]

In all honesty, lets be real....who really cares?

[Syd M]

I do. Patrick and I have been friendly for a long number of years now, even though we don't see eye to eye on certain matters. These two wenches, Gwen and Elizabeth, have been lying and character assassinating people for years now. They even have people believing their lies, as they did with this tale about Patrick passing away. He is doing fine, he has just been away and busy. When I told him about this lie these girls are spreading, he was not too happy. Considering the source, he wasn't surprised either.







PDW

[Bluebird of Happiness]

Syd M wrote:
> cra...@comcast.net wrote:

> > Syd M wrote:
> > > Gwen Bennet wrote:

> > > > To all those whom this may concern: as a friend of Patrick, and with
> > > > permission from his widow Dale, I regret to inform you that Patrick
> > > > passed away on Thursday, March 7th, 2013, after a lengthy illness.
> > > >
> > > > If there are any questions or concerns, please do contact me outside
> > > > of this newsgroup, at the e-mail attached to this post. I'm so
> > > > terribly sorry.

> > > Lying bitch. I spoke with Patrick this morning, he's doing fine.
> > > He's been away on business. That's all.

> > In all honesty, lets be real....who really cares?

> I do. Patrick and I have been friendly for a long number of years now,
> even though we don't see eye to eye on certain matters. These two
> wenches, Gwen and Elizabeth, have been lying and character assassinating
> people for years now. They even have people believing their lies, as they
> did with this tale about Patrick passing away. He is doing fine, he has
> just been away and busy. When I told him about this lie these girls are
> spreading, he was not too happy. Considering the source, he wasn't
> surprised either.

What do you make of this? Is the Harlan Daily Enterprise lying?

http://www.harlandaily.com/view/full_story/21925678/article-Patrick-Humphrey?

Patrick Lee Humphrey, age 57, of Houston, TX, formerly of Benham, KY, passed away on Thursday, March 07, 2013, at the Memorial Hermann Southeast Hospital. He was born May 20, 1955 to Raymond and Wanda Compton Humphrey of Benham, KY. Patrick was an avid Kentucky Wildcats fan and loved hockey. He received a degree in computer science at the University of Houston and worked as a computer programmer.

He is preceded in death by his grandparents, CC and Irene Compton and Henry and Mollie Humphries.

In addition to his parents, he is survived by his sister, Cindy Humphrey of Benham; aunts, Betty Boggs, Geraldine Rodda and Sheila Blalock of Georgia; and a host of other family and friends.

A graveside service will be held for Patrick on Sunday, March 10, 2013, at 1 PM in the Benham Cemetery in Benham, KY with Mitchell Osborne officiating.

In lieu of flowers, the family asks for donations to be made to the American Diabetes Association.

Tri City Funeral Home is in charge of the arrangements.

[Syd M]

I find it conspicuous by it's absence any mention of his beloved wife "Dale" or her grandchildren which he was so fond about. The name Humphrey is quite common in those parts of the Appalachian region

Add the fact that those "females" have consistently lied about respected contributors such as Robert Heishman, Craig Chilton, J Young. and Peter Nykos in the past; why would we tend to give them the benefit-of-doubt now?

[cra...@comcast.net]

On Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:43:44 PM UTC-4, Syd M wrote:
> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:06:42 PM UTC-7, cra...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:05:47 PM UTC-4, Syd M wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:27:21 PM UTC-7, Gwen Bennet wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > To all those whom this may concern: as a friend of Patrick, and with
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > > permission from his widow Dale, I regret to inform you that Patrick
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
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> >
>
> > > > passed away on Thursday, March 7th, 2013, after a lengthy illness.
>
> >
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> > >
>
> >
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> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > If there are any questions or concerns, please do contact me outside
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > of this newsgroup, at the e-mail attached to this post. I'm so
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > terribly sorry.
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> >
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> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Lying bitch. I spoke with Patrick this morning, he's doing fine. He's been away on business. That's all.
>
> >
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> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > PDW
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In all honesty, lets be real....who really cares?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I do.

I don't think many care because in life on this newsgroup, Patrick portrayed himself as a unreasonable, intolerable, and hateful person.

As far as Gwen and Elizabeth, they are liars. That's all they are and that's all they ever will be. No one cares about them either. They seek their five minutes of fame lying in a newsgroup.

[Bluebird of Happiness]

[...]

> I find it conspicuous by it's absence any mention of his beloved wife
> "Dale" or her grandchildren which he was so fond about. The name Humphrey
> is quite common in those parts of the Appalachian region

That may be true. How many Harlan County residents named Patrick Lee Humphrey attended the University of Houston and then pursued an IT career in the same city?

> Add the fact that those "females" have consistently lied about respected
> contributors such as Robert Heishman, Craig Chilton, J Young. and Peter
> Nykos in the past; why would we tend to give them the benefit-of-doubt now?

Robert Heishman? J Young? Respected? Ha, ha, that's a good one. Haven't seen anything from Craig Chilton, and very little from Peter Nyikos. From what I've gathered, Nyikos is considered an idiot in several newsgroups. Your mileage may vary.

[The Echo Chamber]

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 12:41:28 PM UTC-4, cra...@comcast.net wrote:
> On Saturday, August 17, 2013 11:43:44 PM UTC-4, Syd M wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:06:42 PM UTC-7, cra...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > On Thursday, August 15, 2013 5:05:47 PM UTC-4, Syd M wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:27:21 PM UTC-7, Gwen Bennet wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > >
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
>
> > > > > To all those whom this may concern: as a friend of Patrick, and with
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > > permission from his widow Dale, I regret to inform you that Patrick
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > >
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> > > > > passed away on Thursday, March 7th, 2013, after a lengthy illness.
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> > >
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> > > >
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> >
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> > >
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> > > > > If there are any questions or concerns, please do contact me outside
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > > > of this newsgroup, at the e-mail attached to this post. I'm so
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > >
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> >
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> > >
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> > > > > terribly sorry.
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> >
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> > > > Lying bitch. I spoke with Patrick this morning, he's doing fine. He's been away on business. That's all.
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > >
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> >
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> > >
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> > > > PDW
>
> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > In all honesty, lets be real....who really cares?
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> > I do.
>
>
>
> I don't think many care because in life on this newsgroup, Patrick portrayed
> himself as a unreasonable, intolerable, and hateful person.

The very same way you portary yourself.

>
>
>
> As far as Gwen and Elizabeth, they are liars. That's all they are and that's
> all they ever will be. No one cares about them either. They seek their five
> minutes of fame lying in a newsgroup.

Bobby Heishman is known as alt.abortion's most prolific liar.

Here's a sample of a whopper Bobby Heishman told:

MarkA: Well, as any pro-choice advocate will tell you, if you don't think abortions are right, then don't get one.
Eagle46: My wife hasn't and never would.
- MarkA and Eagle46 (Bobby Heishman) in <91ce32e1-6289-4fce...@l30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>

"My wife, she had an abortion many years before her and I had met."
- Bobby Heishman posting as Osprey in
<1183499882.3...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>


So, Bobby, did she have an abortion or not?? And, you have the gall call other people liars....

[cra...@comcast.net]

By liberals? Absolutely not, and I wear that as a badge of honor. I've never met more despicable people, more hateful people, the worse liars of them all...than liberals.
So if a liberal hates me...GOOD!

It's intentional.

And if you don't like me, I can't think of a better badge of honor.

:-)

[The Echo Chamber]

ROFL!!! Speaking of liars...

MarkA: Well, as any pro-choice advocate will tell you, if you don't think abortions are right, then don't get one.
Eagle46: My wife hasn't and never would.
- MarkA and Eagle46 (Bobby Heishman) in <91ce32e1-6289-4fce...@l30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>

"My wife, she had an abortion many years before her and I had met."
- Bobby Heishman posting as Osprey in
<1183499882.3...@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com>

So, which is it Bobby? Did she have the abortion or not?

[The Echo Chamber]

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:55:53 PM UTC-4, cra...@comcast.net wrote:

Apparently, Bobby forgot the time he went onto a forum for CO's/LEO's whinning about how his friend was being treated in one of the newsgroups. Once the other posters in the forum found out Bobby was referring to himself when he said "friend", they chastised him for lying. So, even several of his fellow CO's/LEO's lost respect for him that day.

[elizabeth]

On Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:43:44 PM UTC-7, Syd M wrote:
> On Thursday, August 15, 2013 2:06:42 PM UTC-7, cra...@comcast.net wrote:

snip

Heishman, you got shot down so many times already, and it's a known fact that you libeled him by insisting he had a record, using a felon with a similar name. For that and for all your other online transgressions on State computers on State time, you got your balls ripped off. They had to use a magnifying glass and manicure scissors . .

> I do. Patrick and I have been friendly for a long number of years now, even though we don't see eye to eye on certain matters. These two wenches, Gwen and Elizabeth, have been lying and character assassinating people for years now. They even have people believing their lies, as they did with this tale about Patrick passing away. He is doing fine, he has just been away and busy. When I told him about this lie these girls are spreading, he was not too happy. Considering the source, he wasn't surprised either.
>
>

You really must be getting hard up for responses online to spew such bullshit, Heishman.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> PDW

[elizabeth]

omg

>
> Apparently, Bobby forgot the time he went onto a forum for CO's/LEO's whinning about how his friend was being treated in one of the newsgroups. Once the other posters in the forum found out Bobby was referring to himself when he said "friend", they chastised him for lying. So, even several of his fellow CO's/LEO's lost respect for him that day.

Remember how he insisted he was a combat soldier?
Heishman is such a fucking mess .. . so glad he's on the opposite side of the continent from me. I pity those who have to deal with him IRL

[nyi...@bellsouth.net]

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:34:45 PM UTC-4, elizabeth wrote:
> On Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:06:33 AM UTC-7, The Echo Chamber wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:55:53 PM UTC-4, cra...@comcast.net wrote:

> > > I've never met more despicable people, more hateful people,
> > > the worse liars of them all...than liberals.

Correction: than some people who are generally considered to be liberals.
I don't know whether Elizabeth [Frantes?] qualifies. She has made
some negative comments about "Senator Barbara Botox" who is a liberal by
most people's standards. But she is one of the most hateful people
I have ever encountered, routinely telling me to kill myself [and
sometimes to kill my wife and daughters] and savaging Denise Noe,
a turn-her-cheek Christian, as follows:

Any antiabort male should have his balls ripped off
with pliers. And "denise" needs to get gangraped
to death.
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/7c4b3fb1356665b1?dmode=source
Message-ID: <528befe4-c690-4e99-a24e-
e518187d3...@p2g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
the last three symbols before the @ are c7a

> > > So if a liberal hates me...GOOD!

> omg

I wonder whether Elizabeth believes in any kind of god, or is just
using the expletive "omg" because she can't think of a better
emoticon.

> > Apparently, Bobby forgot the time he went onto a forum for CO's/LEO's
> > whinning about how his friend was being treated in one of the
> > newsgroups. Once the other posters in the forum found out Bobby was
> > referring to himself when he said "friend", they chastised him for lying.

Is that because "the other posters" bought into Keegan's conjecture about
Bobby and Dino being the same person? And if so, why? Was it because
keegan and Elizabeth and so many "other posters" kept up a broken
record routine to this effect?

One hundred repetitions three nights a week
for four years, thought Bernard Marx, who was
an expert on hypnopaedia. Sixty-two thousand
repetitions make one truth. Idiots!
--Aldous Huxley, in _Brave New World_

> So, even several of his fellow CO's/LEO's lost respect for him that day.

Of course, there is no hint here as to who "his fellow CO's/LEO's"
could have been, or what the evidence is for any such thing having
happened.

> Remember how he insisted he was a combat soldier?

He didn't insist it, you pathological liar. He admitted almost
immediately that he had misspoken, and that although he had flown
over combat zones, he hadn't been in actual combat.

> Heishman is such a fucking mess

The irony of a hate-ravaged harridan [see quote above] saying this
will not be lost on readers, but it would take more than US style
waterboarding to make some of them admit it. Including, of course,
Elizabeth herself.

> .. . so glad he's on the opposite
> side of the continent from me. I pity those who have to deal with him IRL

If they are as thoroughly dishonest and hypocritical as you, you
have good reason to pity them.

Peter Nyikos

[J]

"elizabeth" is a nasty shrew whom we have hopefully heard the last of.
Certainly would not fit the description "lady" under anyone's
criteria.

Welcome back. I must say that you have become somewhat like the very
people you do battle with in groups. Why must you insult people with
whom you have no quarrel? I have read a number of your posts over the
years and you disparage me in a number of them. Must you resort to a
personal attack because you disagree with certain views I hold? When
have I done that to you?

>
>Peter Nyikos
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com