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•R.L.Measures  
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From: r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:45:41 -0800
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion

**  As I understand it, the priests who had coitus with the 6 girls were
not into altar-boys.

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From: Liz <ehu...@neo.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:24:04 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
On Nov 13, 1:36 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:

> Pro-choice. It figures.

> http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=11485216

> 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion

> LEXINGTON, Mo. -- Five members of a family are charged in Missouri with sex
> crimes against children. The five men arrested Tuesday are charged with
> several felonies, including forcible sodomy, rape with a child less than 12
> years old and use of a child in a sexual performance. Allegations include
> bestiality and forcing an 11-year-old to have an abortion.

You might have more credibility if you actually read the articles you
cutnpaste.  Well, maybe not.  You had a knee-jerk reaction when you
read the word abortion and totally disregarded the fact that force
takes choice out of the equation.  Most tellingly, the rapes, the
sodomy, and the possible murders of children don't rate a word of
condemnation from you.  These monstrous acts are the epitome of
antichoice, but you merely erroneously and unthinkingly spout "pro-
choice" as if that were the most egregious act that could possibly be
committed.  You are an beyond an idiot and a despicable ass.

It seems that you forgot to paste the rest of the story where
unsurprisingly it reveals that these evil people were religious:

~Three of the five men are lay ministers in the Community of Christ
church whose licenses have been suspended, church spokeswoman Linda L.
Booth said.~

Oh hold on a minute, you say, it's okay their licenses have been
suspended so they aren't *really* ministers.  But wait, there's more:

~Booth, the church spokeswoman, said none of the Mohlers served in
leadership roles in the congregations they attended "nor did they
serve as volunteer youth workers, teach children or youth church
school, or work with children or youth."

"The church takes seriously the allegations that have been made and
suspended the priesthood licenses of three lay ministers: Burrell
Mohler Sr., David Mohler and Jared Mohler," the church said in a
statement.~

Oh gee, the license were only suspended AFTER the criminal allegations
have been made.  So they were working as lay ministers up to the time
when these men were arrested.  And it continues:

~Booth said one of the men, whom she refused to identify, had been
registered to work with children but that license has been
terminated.~

That is probably appropriate under the circumstances, she said in
deliberate understatement.

Liz #658


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From: "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:00:55 -0600
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
"Liz" <ehu...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message

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> It seems that you forgot to paste the rest of the story where
> unsurprisingly it reveals that these evil people were religious:

That would be like saying that a suicide bomber or the pope is religious.
When a band of rapists in the south whose crime spans several generations -
their religiousness is a given.

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From: philosophy <catswhisker...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:39:36 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 13, 4:36 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> Pro-choice. It figures.

Huh?
You ignorant arsehole.
Now, let's see.  Hugh Nibleys daughter was sexually raped by him.
Such an upstanding man.  Moron males are allowed to beat their
children and wives.  Oops, or am I talking about Muslims?
Seem the same to me.


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From: philosophy <catswhisker...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:42:03 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 13, 5:47 pm, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:

And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for pedophilia
through marrying young women - just like the prophet Mohamed.

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From: "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:08:23 -0600
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
"philosophy" <catswhisker...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Nov 13, 5:47 pm, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>> And if you check the postings there, they're mostly coming from the same
>> place - the Confederate states.

> And, if you follow the Pearl of great Price, it allows for pedophilia
> through marrying young women - just like the prophet Mohamed.

Thank GOD they've been able to resist such temptation.
Let us pray that the Christians someday develop the same level of
self-discipline and decency.

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From: r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:23:13 -0800
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
In article
<bfd16956-ddb5-4e60-ab56-49545c3c4...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,

•  The youngest woman that "prophet-seer-revelator" Joseph Smith, Jr
apparently had coitus with was Helen Mar Kimball (born Aug. 22, 1828,
married J. Smith, Jr. May, 1843).   In some
States having coitus with a 14 yr old would make him an ephebophile.  
However, since  "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.

fin

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From: "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 14:29:25 -0600
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message

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> However, since  "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
> youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
> would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.

Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims - regardless of
your impossible "what-if" scenario.
Here, in the US, it's the Christians who are raping babies... for REAL.

That's why these five... I mean six... Christians are in lock-up.


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From: rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Date: 15 Nov 2009 21:54:19 GMT
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion

Except the the problem that Mohammed lived a thousand years before the
creation of the United States, and "marriage" did not equal "sex".

Meanwhile, today, "christian" ministers are going to prison for "marrying"
(with sex) girls that young.

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From: philosophy <catswhisker...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:55:55 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 16, 6:29 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:

> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message

> news:r-1511091223130001@10.0.1.7...

> > However, since  "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
> > youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
> > would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.

> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims - regardless of
> your impossible "what-if" scenario.
> Here, in the US, it's the Christians who are raping babies... for REAL.

> That's why these five... I mean six... Christians are in lock-up.

So, I gather you are not a Christian.  I mean you couldn't possibly be
part of a religion that regards these ingrates as "fine upstanding
men". The only thing that was ever upstanding about them was their
bloody penises.

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From: philosophy <catswhisker...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:57:42 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 16, 7:54 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

Yes, scarey stuff.
Oh, are some of these ministers, Mormon, perchance?


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From: r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:00:36 -0800
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
In article <MwZLm.4341$JC2.2...@newsfe06.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"

<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> news:r-1511091223130001@10.0.1.7...

> > However, since  "prophet" Muhammad is known to have had coitus with his
> > youngest wife, Ayesha, when she was 8-yrs and 10-months old, Muhammad
> > would qualify as a pedophile in all 50 States.

> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims -

**  Guffaw!

 regardless of

> your impossible "what-if" scenario.
> Here, in the US, it's the Christians who are raping babies... for REAL.

> That's why these five... I mean six... Christians are in lock-up.

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From: r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:03:56 -0800
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion

•  If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
Ayesha bore children?

> Meanwhile, today, "christian" ministers are going to prison for "marrying"
> (with sex) girls that young.

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:38:01 -0000
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It was Allah who did it...and she was still a virgin :-)

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From: "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:17:09 -0600
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".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message

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> In article <MwZLm.4341$JC2.2...@newsfe06.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
>> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims -

> **  Guffaw!

I said "Muslim" not "Mormon".
With Mormons pedophilia is certainly a problem.
With Muslims, it's not.

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From: "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:20:39 -0600
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"Smiler" <Smi...@joe.king.com> wrote in message

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> .R.L.Measures wrote:
>> .  If the "prophet" Muhammad was not boning her, then how was it that
>> Ayesha bore children?

> It was Allah who did it...and she was still a virgin :-)

Or maybe she simply found some pre-Mormon Catholics to take care of it.

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From: r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:53:37 -0800
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In article <Y7nMm.132018$Sn4.8...@newsfe15.ams2>, "Smiler"

**  Another perpetual virgin who bore children!

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From: r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:58:38 -0800
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
In article <MInMm.20171$gi1.5...@newsfe19.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"

<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> news:r-1611090400360001@10.0.1.7...
> > In article <MwZLm.4341$JC2.2...@newsfe06.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"

> >> Here, in the US, we don't have that problem with Muslims -

> > **  Guffaw!

> I said "Muslim" not "Mormon".
> With Mormons pedophilia is certainly a problem.
> With Muslims, it's not.

**  In Islam, it is not a sin in Allah's eyes to have sex with 9-yr old girls.

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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:39:43 -0600
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".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message

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> **  In Islam, it is not a sin in Allah's eyes to have sex with 9-yr old
> girls.

Judging by how the Christians are behaving, it's OK with them, too.

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From: rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Date: 17 Nov 2009 07:48:58 GMT
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What an impressively stupid question.  Tell us:  Did she bear children
when she was nine yuears old?  Or did he marry her young and then wait
for several years befgore sex?

>> Meanwhile, today, "christian" ministers are going to prison for "marrying"
>> (with sex) girls that young.

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From: r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 06:59:46 -0800
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Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion
In article <HGqMm.20049$rE5....@newsfe08.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"

<bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> ".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message
> news:r-1611091958380001@10.0.1.7...

> > **  In Islam, it is not a sin in Allah's eyes to have sex with 9-yr old
> > girls.

> Judging by how the Christians are behaving, it's OK with them, too.

**  Catholic priests humping 9-yr old girls?  Boys maybe.

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On Nov 16, 10:58 pm, r...@somis.org (•R.L.Measures) wrote:

Sounds like Southern Baptist prior to circa 1965 or so.

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•  As I understand it, the "prophet" approached her father - abu Bekr -
about marrying her when she was three.  The marriage took place when she
was six.  She moved in wth Muhammad when she was 8-years and 10-months
old.   I do not know when the children were born.   He died when she was
18.  
("The Cradle of Erotica" by Allen Edwardes and R. E. L. Masters (Julian
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Sanders Kaufman  
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 More options Nov 17, 11:05 am
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From: "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:05:12 -0600
Local: Tues, Nov 17 2009 11:05 am
Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion

".R.L.Measures" <r...@somis.org> wrote in message

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> In article <HGqMm.20049$rE5....@newsfe08.iad>, "Sanders Kaufman"
>> Judging by how the Christians are behaving, it's OK with them, too.

> **  Catholic priests humping 9-yr old girls?  Boys maybe.

Those are the stories that make the headlines.
But it's by no means the extent of their sexual predation.

Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
there's no Catholic sin.
But the sex with little boys violates both theirs and our laws - so
eventually many get reported.

The Catholic phrase for screwing a little girl is "getting lucky".


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From: The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:11:22 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 17 2009 11:11 am
Subject: Re: 5 Men Charged With Sex Crimes Against Children, Forced Abortion

On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> Girls are much less prone to report it than boys... in Catholic culture.
> There's no prohibition in their religion against sex with little girls, so
> there's no Catholic sin.
> But the sex with little boys violates both theirs and our laws - so
> eventually many get reported.

Why not just screw the nuns then, or any adult female?
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