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Sanders Kaufman

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Nov 14, 2009, 4:55:34 AM11/14/09
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The Republican Party - both its leadership and its members - have long
attacked the American people for allowing abortions.
What they don't talk about is that ever since 1991, the party's own
insurance plan covers elective abortions - or as the Republicans call it
"murder".
When confronted with this news, the Party Chairman feigned ignorance and
vowed to end the coverage - although, he has not yet done so.

Reporters also interviewed officials at Cigna, the insurance company that
holds the Republican's policy.
According to Cigna, the GOP was offered an opportunity to opt out of the
abortion coverage - and get an appropriate discount.
The GOP decided to just go ahead with the higher premiums, so that the
abortions will be free for whoever wanted them, whenever they wanted them.

Notably - although dozens of Republicans have been caught in sexual scandals
in the years since the Abortion clause was added, NONE of them are reported
to have had any children out of wedlock - or at least, none that were born,
anyway.

flybd5

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Nov 14, 2009, 6:57:49 AM11/14/09
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Oh, I'm sure the entire country is surprised by this... NOT.

flybd5

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Nov 14, 2009, 7:03:58 AM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 4:55 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:

And BTW, I do believe that it is NOT illegal for Cigna to disclose how
many times that portion of coverage has been used, right? LMAO!

What pathetic, hypocritical twits.

W.T.S.

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:03:49 AM11/14/09
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message
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How wise of them! Everyone should have this coverage. The availability of
abortion prevents the destruction of the lives of women, wives, daughters,
sisters as well as the destruction of families. Abortion prevents deaths
and injury to health.
As for the fetuses involved, they're just tissue, like hangnails. No
"child" has ever died during an abortion.
But, there is justice in this. If the public can't have insurance to cover
this totally necessary medical procedure, then no one should, least of all,
Republicans. It's just too bad that Republicans are the most likely to be
able to afford an abortion or travel to where they're easily obtained. If
there's anyone that deserves to be forced to have unwanted children and to
have their lives and hopes destroyed, it's a Republican. If there's a
family unit that needs to be broken, it's a Republican family unit.
Baby, bad. Abortion, good.
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Al

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:59:31 PM11/14/09
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In article
<217843b3-78cb-4123...@o10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
flybd5 <b...@bd5.com> wrote:

You defend the Ft Hood jihadi, openly support the Mullahs that kill our
military, slime the name of the USMC, express constant anti-American
views while calling everyone who has your number on the net "traitors".

You've got some issues of your own to work out on the hypocrisy issue,
Pudge.

Insallah.

Juan

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Nov 14, 2009, 1:45:39 PM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 12:59 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> You've got some issues of your own to work out on the hypocrisy issue,

LOL! Now there's another pathetic trademark Rudd pathetic comeback. 18
years of abortion coverage in the GOP insurance, and he thinks
flailing at me covers it up.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Oh, I can't wait until the statistics of the number of times that
coverage was used comes out. That isn't covered by HIPPA, so your
heroes are, like you, FUCKED. *8)

Sanders Kaufman

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Nov 14, 2009, 2:16:04 PM11/14/09
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote in message

> But, there is justice in this. If the public can't have insurance to

> cover this totally necessary medical procedure, then no one should, least
> of all, Republicans.

In their defense, now that they've gotten it out of the public plan, the
C.E.O of the GOP is setting up a hand-picked blue-ribbon panel to look into
the matter.
The panel will interview insurance agents, lobbyists, campaign managers and
others and then they'll issue a report at some future date.
CIgna, the GOP's insurance carrier, has already issued a public statement
that they will hold the GOP to their contract.
They don't have to get any abortions - but they do have to pay for the
abortion coverage they demanded and got.

Notably, if I was an Evangelical who gave money to the GOP to fight
*against* abortion, and then found out that they actually used the money to
FUND abortions, I'd demand my money back - with treble damages.

Al

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Nov 14, 2009, 2:39:55 PM11/14/09
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In article
<0e63a072-620b-400d...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 14, 12:59�pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:


> >You defend the Ft Hood jihadi, openly support the Mullahs that kill our
> > military, slime the name of the USMC, express constant anti-American
> > views while calling everyone who has your number on the net "traitors".
> >

> > You've got some issues of your own to work out on the hypocrisy issue,
>
> LOL! Now there's another pathetic trademark Rudd pathetic comeback. 18
> years of abortion coverage in the GOP insurance, and he thinks
> flailing at me covers it up.

I couldn't care less about congressional insurance, I'm just pointing
out that you're an idiot, and the reasons why.

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Juan

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Nov 14, 2009, 9:20:09 PM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 2:39 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I couldn't care less about congressional insurance, I'm just pointing
> out that you're an idiot, and the reasons why.

And you're a failure at that too, but it's a free country, you're
welcome to continue proving what a dipshit you are. :)

Juan

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Nov 14, 2009, 9:20:38 PM11/14/09
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On Nov 14, 9:07 pm, Rob Par <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:39:55 -0600, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article
> ><0e63a072-620b-400d-a6e5-d83fcf49d...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
>   It's Republican Congressional Insurance that pay's for abortions.
> It's Republican hypocrisy that's the issue. Interesting thing it's Red
> states that have the highest abortion rates.

Don't feed the imbecile troll. :)

Al

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:24:53 PM11/14/09
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In article <l9ouf5hf56r7qk850...@4ax.com>,
Rob Par <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting thing it's Red
> states that have the highest abortion rates.

You're confusing state with demographic.

Al

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:26:39 PM11/14/09
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In article
<5a59345e-3c3d-46bf...@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote:

You edited out all my proof that you're an idiot.

Tapping out again?

Sanders Kaufman

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:05:52 AM11/15/09
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"Rob Par" <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's Republican hypocrisy that's the issue. Interesting thing it's Red


> states that have the highest abortion rates.

In the end, that's probably for the best.

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Al

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:54:53 PM11/15/09
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In article <67g0g5pdn96qpk5m5...@4ax.com>,
Rob Par <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote:

> Red states have the most religious people, the most poor people.
> And the highest abortion rate.

Ok, in regards to abortion & religion - Let's look at the top ten:

1 District of Columbia - blue

2 New York - blue

3 Delaware - blue:

4 Florida blue

5 Nevada - blue

= 5 Rhode Island - blue

7 Kansas - red

-8 Oregon - blue

-8 Washington - blue

-10 Connecticut - blue

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_abo_rat-health-abortion-rate


Hmmmm....

Let's look at the top ten by religious practice:

1. Mississippi - Red

2. Alabama - Red

3. S. Carolina - Red

4. Tennessee - Red

5. Louisiana - Red

6. Arkansas - Red

7. Georgia - Red

8. N. Carolina - Blue

9. Oklahoma - Red

10. Kentucky, Texas. - Red

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114022/state-states-importance-religion.aspx

Draw your own conclusions.

Using the electoral map to illustrate the badness of the right is a
dangerous thing for liberals, who feel state lines, not demographics,
define the behaviour of a society.

Because crime and abortion are disproportionately a minority problem,
and minorities vote overwhelmingly democrat.

Sanders Kaufman

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:06:10 PM11/15/09
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"Rob Par" <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote in message
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> Red states have the most religious people, the most poor people.
> And the highest abortion rate.

So that's why right-wingers are always so *angry* at everyone.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 15, 2009, 4:59:13 PM11/15/09
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Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <67g0g5pdn96qpk5m5...@4ax.com>,
> Rob Par <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:24:53 -0600, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <l9ouf5hf56r7qk850...@4ax.com>,
>> > Rob Par <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Interesting thing it's Red
>> >> states that have the highest abortion rates.
>> >
>> >You're confusing state with demographic.
>>
>> Red states have the most religious people, the most poor people.
>> And the highest abortion rate.
>
>Ok, in regards to abortion & religion - Let's look at the top ten:
>
>1 District of Columbia - blue
>
>2 New York - blue
>
>3 Delaware - blue:
>
>4 Florida blue
>
>5 Nevada - blue

Calling Florida and Nevada "blue" states just exposes your pro-lie
agenda.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Al

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Nov 15, 2009, 5:28:57 PM11/15/09
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In article <4b0079b1$0$1630$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

That is what the electoral map shows, friend, that's where the term
refers to. But even if you switch those two for yuks, the point still
stands.

As for my "agenda", that is irrelevant to the facts presented.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 15, 2009, 6:47:09 PM11/15/09
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Your statistic are from 2001 but your map is from 2009.

That makes you a pro-lie rightard.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Al

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Nov 15, 2009, 7:34:26 PM11/15/09
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In article <4b0092fd$0$1651$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

I'm quite sure the statistics have not changed significantly. Look at
historical trends.

The red/blue map, yes. But *that is what the OP used as a standard*,
which is why an electoral map is *not a good measure* - it's the
*demographics*.

Your questioning the data proves my point, meet irony and move on.

> That makes you a pro-lie rightard.

Your math doesn't work.

Juan

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Nov 15, 2009, 7:35:56 PM11/15/09
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On Nov 14, 11:26 pm, Al <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> You edited out all my proof that you're an idiot.

Oh, bookfuckinghoo, Rudd's whining again. :)

Juan

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Nov 15, 2009, 7:36:13 PM11/15/09
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Touché. Good point.

Al

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Nov 15, 2009, 8:24:09 PM11/15/09
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<3e1704f0-233d-450e...@v37g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Touch�. Good point.

Consider that democrat voters overwhelming support and practice
ideological self-immolation, can you grasp the irony?

Ray Fischer

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Nov 15, 2009, 8:39:35 PM11/15/09
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Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 15, 1:05�am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>> > "Rob Par" <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> > news:l9ouf5hf56r7qk850...@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > > It's Republican hypocrisy that's the issue. Interesting thing it's Red
>> > > states that have the highest abortion rates.
>> >
>> > In the end, that's probably for the best.
>>
>> Touch�. Good point.
>
>Consider that democrat voters overwhelming support and practice
>ideological self-immolation, can you grasp the irony?

And yet the country does best under Democractic administration and it
is the republican voters who consistently vote against their own
interests. And it is republican voters who consistently vote contrary
to the teachings of their messiah.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Al

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Nov 15, 2009, 9:27:14 PM11/15/09
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In article <4b00ad57$0$1631$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Nov 15, 1:05�am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> >> > "Rob Par" <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> > news:l9ouf5hf56r7qk850...@4ax.com...
> >> >
> >> > > It's Republican hypocrisy that's the issue. Interesting thing it's Red
> >> > > states that have the highest abortion rates.
> >> >
> >> > In the end, that's probably for the best.
> >>
> >> Touch�. Good point.
> >
> >Consider that democrat voters overwhelming support and practice
> >ideological self-immolation, can you grasp the irony?
>
> And yet the country does best under Democractic administration and it
> is the republican voters who consistently vote against their own
> interests.

Yesterday's memo said republicans were greedy fuckers that only voted
in their best interests because they have all the money and wanted to
keep it from being spread around.


> And it is republican voters who consistently vote contrary
> to the teachings of their messiah.

Our American messiah is free markets, free people, and our messiah will
be constantly attacked by those that don't benefit from the faith
because they don't practice the faith.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:57:27 PM11/15/09
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Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <4b00ad57$0$1631$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Juan <fly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 15, 1:05�am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
>> >> > "Rob Par" <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >> > news:l9ouf5hf56r7qk850...@4ax.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > > It's Republican hypocrisy that's the issue. Interesting thing it's Red
>> >> > > states that have the highest abortion rates.
>> >> >
>> >> > In the end, that's probably for the best.
>> >>
>> >> Touch�. Good point.
>> >
>> >Consider that democrat voters overwhelming support and practice
>> >ideological self-immolation, can you grasp the irony?
>>
>> And yet the country does best under Democractic administration and it
>> is the republican voters who consistently vote against their own
>> interests.
>
> Yesterday's memo said republicans were greedy fuckers that only voted
>in their best interests because they have all the money and wanted to
>keep it from being spread around.

The vast majority of republicans vote against their own interests.
They're led by the few "greedy fuckers" who use hate and lies to
sucker the gullible.

>> And it is republican voters who consistently vote contrary
>> to the teachings of their messiah.
>
>Our American messiah is free markets, free people, and our messiah will
>be constantly attacked by those that don't benefit from the faith
>because they don't practice the faith.

Damn few (almost none) actually practice. The vast majority pay lip
service.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Al

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Nov 16, 2009, 5:08:39 PM11/16/09
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In article <4b00dbb7$0$1624$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

As opposed to the millions who voted on "Hope and Change" platorm - hope
is always in their best interests.

Look at the result. Talk about gullible.

> >> And it is republican voters who consistently vote contrary
> >> to the teachings of their messiah.
> >
> >Our American messiah is free markets, free people, and our messiah will
> >be constantly attacked by those that don't benefit from the faith
> >because they don't practice the faith.
>
> Damn few (almost none) actually practice. The vast majority pay lip
> service.

You sure do know an awful lot of stuff you're sure you know.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 17, 2009, 3:18:28 AM11/17/09
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Spare us the childish whining.

>Look at the result.

And there is the classic example of a rightard's stupidity. Obama
hasn't fixed in 10 months what Bush took to destroy and you're idiot
enough to whine about it.

Get back to us in eight years. See if you have anything left to whine
about.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Al

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:24:05 PM11/17/09
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In article <4b025c54$0$1670$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <4b00dbb7$0$1624$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> > rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >
> >> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >In article <4b00ad57$0$1631$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> >> > rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> >>
> >> The vast majority of republicans vote against their own interests.
> >> They're led by the few "greedy fuckers" who use hate and lies to
> >> sucker the gullible.
> >
> >As opposed to the millions who voted on "Hope and Change" platorm - hope
> >is always in their best interests.
>
> Spare us the childish whining.

Do you have hope, still?

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