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Andrew W
May 25, 2012, 6:43:05 PM5/25/12
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It depends on what your definition of 'life' is.
Biological life begins at conception.
But a person's life begins at birth. That's why their birthday is
celebrated.
The theist's problem is they almost always lack definitions in their
assertions.
--
If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it
contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the
authority and base your reasoning on your own findings. ~Leonardo da Vinci
Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his
intelligence; he is just using his memory. ~Leonardo da Vinci
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Dixe Hollins
May 26, 2012, 4:28:54 PM5/26/12
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we aint alive jack didnt you seee the meatrrix. dixie.
Mr. K
Jun 18, 2012, 12:21:18 PM6/18/12
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In article <jpp1ts$nrn$1...@dont-email.me>,
Ignorance is not bliss.
--
Karma, What a concept!
"Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> It depends on what your definition of 'life' is.
>
> Biological life begins at conception.
> But a person's life begins at birth. That's why their birthday is
> celebrated.
>
>
> The theist's problem is they almost always lack definitions in their
> assertions.
yes, thank you.
> It depends on what your definition of 'life' is.
>
> Biological life begins at conception.
> But a person's life begins at birth. That's why their birthday is
> celebrated.
>
>
> The theist's problem is they almost always lack definitions in their
> assertions.
Ignorance is not bliss.
--
Karma, What a concept!
perry neheum
Jun 20, 2012, 11:26:16 AM6/20/12
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“Abortion foes never want
To admit the fact they won’t confront:
Those unviable tissues that they treasure
Are not babies by any measure.”
-- Ken S. Spalding
To admit the fact they won’t confront:
Those unviable tissues that they treasure
Are not babies by any measure.”
-- Ken S. Spalding
pnyikos
Jun 22, 2012, 12:10:12 AM6/22/12
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On Jun 18, 12:21 pm, "Mr. K" <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> In article <jpp1ts$nr...@dont-email.me>,
Andrew W's idiocies.
> Ignorance is not bliss.
It is for Andrew W, and maybe even you, by the looks of things.
Peter Nyikos
> In article <jpp1ts$nr...@dont-email.me>,
> "Andrew W" <remove_ajwer...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > It depends on what your definition of 'life' is.
>
> > Biological life begins at conception.
> > But a person's life begins at birth. That's why their birthday is
> > celebrated.
>
> > The theist's problem is they almost always lack definitions in their
> > assertions.
>
> yes, thank you.
I hope you are being sarcastic. If not, take a look at my reply to
>
> > It depends on what your definition of 'life' is.
>
> > Biological life begins at conception.
> > But a person's life begins at birth. That's why their birthday is
> > celebrated.
>
> > The theist's problem is they almost always lack definitions in their
> > assertions.
>
> yes, thank you.
Andrew W's idiocies.
> Ignorance is not bliss.
It is for Andrew W, and maybe even you, by the looks of things.
Peter Nyikos
pnyikos
Jun 22, 2012, 12:08:12 AM6/22/12
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On May 25, 6:43 pm, "Andrew W" <remove_ajwer...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
"implantation". It actually begins at fertilization, about a week
earlier.
> But a person's life begins at birth.
You have no basis, either in philosophy or in biology or in
psychology, or even in Roe v. Wade for making this assertion.
Biologically it is sheer garbage. Take a gander at this entry from an
NIH website:
The end of the 10th week of pregnancy marks the end of the "embryonic
period" and the beginning of the "fetal period."
•Weeks 11 to 14 of pregnancy (gestational age)
◦Eyelids close and will not reopen until about the 28th week.
◦The face is well formed.
◦Limbs are long and thin.
◦Genitals appear well differentiated.
◦Red blood cells are produced in the liver.
◦The head makes up nearly half of the baby's size.
◦The baby can make a fist with its fingers.
...
•Weeks 19 to 21 of pregnancy (gestational age)
◦The baby can hear.
◦The baby makes more movements.
◦The mother may feel a fluttering in the lower abdomen.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002398.htm
A service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health
Note the use of the word "baby".
> That's why their birthday is
> celebrated.
Did you make this up yourself, or did someone help you make it up?
> The theist's problem is they almost always lack definitions in their
> assertions.
Define "person."
...pot...kettle...you know the rest.
> --
> If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it
> contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the
> authority and base your reasoning on your own findings. ~Leonardo da Vinci
>
> Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his
> intelligence; he is just using his memory. ~Leonardo da Vinci
You don't even go so far as to appeal to authority; you appeal to your
own say-so.
Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/
nyikos @ math.sc.edu
wrote:
> It depends on what your definition of 'life' is.
>
> Biological life begins at conception.
Not according to the ACOG definition of conception, which means
>
> Biological life begins at conception.
"implantation". It actually begins at fertilization, about a week
earlier.
> But a person's life begins at birth.
psychology, or even in Roe v. Wade for making this assertion.
Biologically it is sheer garbage. Take a gander at this entry from an
NIH website:
The end of the 10th week of pregnancy marks the end of the "embryonic
period" and the beginning of the "fetal period."
•Weeks 11 to 14 of pregnancy (gestational age)
◦Eyelids close and will not reopen until about the 28th week.
◦The face is well formed.
◦Limbs are long and thin.
◦Genitals appear well differentiated.
◦Red blood cells are produced in the liver.
◦The head makes up nearly half of the baby's size.
◦The baby can make a fist with its fingers.
...
•Weeks 19 to 21 of pregnancy (gestational age)
◦The baby can hear.
◦The baby makes more movements.
◦The mother may feel a fluttering in the lower abdomen.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002398.htm
A service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health
Note the use of the word "baby".
> That's why their birthday is
> celebrated.
> The theist's problem is they almost always lack definitions in their
> assertions.
...pot...kettle...you know the rest.
> --
> If you find from your own experience that something is a fact and it
> contradicts what some authority has written down, then you must abandon the
> authority and base your reasoning on your own findings. ~Leonardo da Vinci
>
> Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his
> intelligence; he is just using his memory. ~Leonardo da Vinci
own say-so.
Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/
nyikos @ math.sc.edu
pnyikos
Jun 22, 2012, 12:18:08 AM6/22/12
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Are you the same person who spreads Spalding's pack of lies under
various pseudonyms? Look at this bit from the NIH website which I
quoted to Andrew W:
•Weeks 19 to 21 of pregnancy (gestational age)
◦The baby can hear.
◦The baby makes more movements.
◦The mother may feel a fluttering in the lower abdomen.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002398.htm
A service of the U.S. National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health
no baby is viable at that stage of development by current technology.
I wonder whether Spalding ever confronted the fact that he is a lying
tissue mass.
Will you ever confront that fact?
Peter Nyikos
Justice Alito's Brother
Jul 5, 2012, 12:10:08 PM7/5/12
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I believe Neheum is really Spalding. Or vice versa.
But the verse is right on.
But the verse is right on.
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