Why Godless Libertarianism Will Not Fly in America
Sound of Trumpet
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Why Libertarianism Will Not Fly in America
By Sylvia Thompson | Published 06/2/2010
Sylvia Thompson is a black conservative writer whose aim is to counter
the liberal spin on issues pertaining to race and culture. She is a
copy editor by trade currently residing in Tennessee.
It has been interesting listening to the back-and-forth about Rand
Paul, the recent Republican nominee for the Senate seat in Kentucky.
The left latched onto a statement that Paul made regarding the right
of a private business to serve whomever it chooses regardless of
race.
It did not surprise me that the left, being the official carriers of
the race-monger banner, would make a stink about Paul’s position. As
a black person, my take has always been that liberalism is inherently
racist, thus its penchant for branding any opposing thought as such.
With the brouhaha over Paul’s libertarian leanings, libertarian
ideology has taken center stage in political discussions of late. Two
guest hosts of the Rush Limbaugh radio show, Mark Davis (radio
commentator in the Dallas-Forth Worth area) and Walter Williams (black
economists formerly of George Mason University), fielded many
questions from callers regarding the ideology.
Davis wrestled with the notion that adherence to the United States
Constitution (a primary tenant of libertarianism) might yield outcomes
that some conservatives would not support and on the other hand,
outcomes that non-conservatives might not support.
Williams similarly had a difficult time trying to defend no government
regulation in how a private business is run.
A caller, who is a small business owner of a high-risk operation,
questioned a lack of government regulation in cases where workers take
necessary risks. What do you do when a worker is injured? Are not
reasonable regulations or safety standards necessary so that an
injured person has some recourse to secure aid? Williams’s response
was that it is a family’s responsibility.
Both discussions, as did the discourse throughout each of the shows,
spotlighted how impractical libertarianism’s take on government
involvement can be. I oppose libertarianism and conclude that it is
impractical primarily because it is a godless ideology. Its tenets can
be discussed on a high intellectual plain, but are not workable in the
real world of flawed humanity.
For example, the founders of the United States Constitution built the
document upon Judeo-Christian principles.
Without those principles, it is an unworkable tool, as some founders
acknowledged in their writings. In the same way, capitalism devoid of
Judeo-Christian underpinnings can be as deadly and pernicious as
socialism.
Libertarianism acknowledges no such connections with Judeo-Christian
principles and therefore comes across as ridiculous theory to many
American traditional conservatives (most of whom are Christians). In
the case of the risk-intensive small business where a worker becomes
injured, what if there is no family to support the injured worker?
What then? Williams did not say.
It is obvious from American history that the founders never intended
that the Constitution be interpreted outside of Judeo-Christian
principles. Laws cannot be extracted from the document void of
morality, which is what libertarianism requires. And what specific
morality were those founders drawing upon? It was biblical Judeo-
Christian morality. Not Hinduism, Confucianism, Islam, Buddhism, or
any of the other major religions. The few founders who were deists
were far outnumbered by the majority who worshipped in one or the
other of the several sects of Christianity.
It is the godless quality of libertarianism that will not fly with
most Americans. That’s not to say that all who embrace pure
libertarianism are themselves godless, but their ideology makes no
connection to God. Traditional conservatism does make that
connection. The difference between these two ideologies explains why
libertarians can embrace the homosexual agenda and other morally
unacceptable behaviors. Individual liberty trumps all else; nobody or
nothing can infringe upon it.
Judeo-Christian conservatives cannot embrace such idealism.
Biblical morality is the touchstone for what is and is not
acceptable. We know that the individual liberty of one person almost
always infringes upon the individual liberty of another, so the
arbiter of human behavior must be outside the human realm.
It is noticeable that Rand Paul stressed openly his socially
conservative views, such as the right of the pre-born to life even as
he holds to some principles of libertarianism. It is very unlikely
that he would have had the solid support of the Tea Party movement if
it were otherwise.
Despite the assaults from atheists, liberals, Islamists, and countless
new-age cults (religious or not), America’s founding was based in
Judeo-Christian principles and the majority of people in the country
still profess Christianity as their faith. That being the case,
libertarianism is not likely to take over any time soon.
Michael Price
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> Why Libertarianism Will Not Fly in America
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> By Sylvia Thompson | Published 06/2/2010
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> For example, the founders of the United States Constitution built the
> document upon Judeo-Christian principles.
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Massive fail.
http://americanhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/was-the-united-states-founded-on-christian-principles
Note that the Founders were probably one of the least Christian groups
in the country being full of deists and even athiests.
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Jim Austin
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> By Sylvia Thompson | Published 06/2/2010
<Snip>
> Despite the assaults from atheists, liberals, Islamists, and countless
> new-age cults (religious or not), America’s founding was based in
> Judeo-Christian principles and the majority of people in the country
> still profess Christianity as their faith.
Judeo-Christian principles consists of humility, meekness, servility,
submissiveness, pacifism and diving right of kings and dictators. Such
principles are more conducive of tyranny, oppression and dictatorship.
They were not the motivating principles of American Revolution.
For instance, concerning governmental authority, according to Romans
XIII (RSV):
"1. Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For
there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been
instituted by God.
"2. Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has
appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment."
Americas founders held otherwise, as indicated by the Declaration of
Independence:
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That
whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it
is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute
new Government..."
While America's majority continue to profess their faith, there has
been little effort by Christians to create the sort of government
mandated by their faith.
Paul Ciszek
so-called "libertarians" who claim to be secular still want to ban gay
marriage and come up with contorted arguments claiming that the Office
of Faith-based Initiatives doesn't violate the First Amendment,
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Franco
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This contains the statement "a primary tenant of libertarianism." I
checked, and the original includes the incorrect "tenant" instead of
"tenet," which is clearly what was intended.
Jonathan Schattke
> This contains the statement "a primary tenant of libertarianism." I
> checked, and the original includes the incorrect "tenant" instead of
> "tenet," which is clearly what was intended.
Oh, come on... Don't you know the libertarians rent out their beliefs by
the cubic thought?
W.T.S.
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> Why Libertarianism Will Not Fly in America
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> By Sylvia Thompson | Published 06/2/2010
>
> Sylvia Thompson is a black conservative writer whose aim is to counter
> the liberal spin on issues pertaining to race and culture. She is a
> copy editor by trade currently residing in Tennessee.
>
>
America is a liberal country, America is a secular country.
Conservative, bad. Liberal, good. Religion, bad. Atheism, good.
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<soundof...@post.com> wrote:
>For example, the founders of the United States Constitution built the
>document upon Judeo-Christian principles.
It would be difficult to be more egregiously wrong in a single
sentence than the above.
SkyEyes
> Despite the assaults from atheists, liberals, Islamists, and countless
> new-age cults (religious or not), America’s founding was based in
> Judeo-Christian principles and the majority of people in the country
> still profess Christianity as their faith. That being the case,
> libertarianism is not likely to take over any time soon.
Sylvia Thompson is an idiot, unfortunately. Neither you nor she can
point to any tenet of the constitution based on "Judeo-Christian
principles." The constitution is the product of The Enlightenment,
and of liberals - *radicals*, really - who saw the vision of a secular
nation where freedom of conscience is available to all.
If Ms. Thompson was correct, our national anthem would still be "God
Save the King/Queen" and we'd have the Church of England as our state
religion.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
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Frank Galikanokus
brouhaha? Ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha...
Slam!
Hey in there, don't you want your door knocker back?
JAM
Frank Galikanokus
You are correct Brenda.
The "Judeo-Christian Tradition" is one of kings ruling by divine right.
Our Founding Father's revolution was fought to put an end to the rule of
god's anointed kings.
JAM
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Spartakus
> http://www.chronwatch-america.com/articles/6948/1/Why-Libertarianism-...
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> Why Libertarianism Will Not Fly in America
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> By Sylvia Thompson | Published 06/2/2010
A post-modern word salad. Refrigerator magnet poetry at its most
banal.
William December Starr
Jim Austin <b...@ix.netcom.com> said:
> Judeo-Christian principles consists of humility, meekness,
> servility, submissiveness, pacifism and diving right of kings
> and dictators.
Typo of the week.
-- wds
Michael Price
> On Jul 26, 3:45 am, Sound of Trumpet <soundoftrum...@post.com> wrote:
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> > Why Libertarianism Will Not Fly in America
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> > By Sylvia Thompson | Published 06/2/2010
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> <Snip>
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> > Despite the assaults from atheists, liberals, Islamists, and countless
> > new-age cults (religious or not), America’s founding was based in
> > Judeo-Christian principles and the majority of people in the country
> > still profess Christianity as their faith.
>
> Judeo-Christian principles consists of humility, meekness, servility,
> submissiveness, pacifism and diving right of kings and dictators.
To be fair the DROK is pretty recent and didn't actually last long
before
plenty of Christians thought it was Satanic, not Christian. Relying
on it's
persuasive power cost Charles the First his head.