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‘What happens to women who are denied abortions?’ 95% live happily ever after

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Jun 15, 2013, 10:17:30 PM6/15/13
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Compare this with the percentage of women who have abortions and
suffer from life-long guilt, drug addiction, alcoholism, depression
and suicide.








http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/what-happens-to-women-who-are-denied-abortions-95-percent-live-happily-ever






Analysis



NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) � The New York Times
Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title �What
Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?� Written by Joshua Lang, a
student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
attempts to answer the question using the �Turnaway Study,� a study of
some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.

The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers looking
to catalog the negative effects of giving birth to an unplanned baby.
Instead, they found that the overwhelming majority of women who wanted
abortions but couldn�t get them were happy with the outcome.

Here, from the mouth of one of the study�s authors, Diana Greene
Foster, is the answer to the title question: �About 5 percent of the
women, after they have had the baby, still wish they hadn�t. And the
rest of them adjust.�

And here�s an answer from an actual �turnaway� � S., a woman
interviewed for Lang�s piece who was not part of the original study,
but was denied a wanted abortion for being 23 weeks pregnant: �[My
baby] is more than my best friend, more than the love of my life. She
is just my whole world.�

These, apparently, were not the answers Mr. Lang was hoping for. So
rather than write a straight-up article about the results of the
study, or taking S. at her word, he wove her emotional narrative
through a series of quotes from pro-abortion �experts� and emphasized
the �negative outcomes� of parenthood: namely, the sacrifices.

�Being denied an abortion resulted in some measurable negative effects
for S.,� Lang wrote. �She had to give up work and her apartment, and
her precarious finances became more precarious.�

�Given some of the negative outcomes for turnaways,� added Lang,
�Foster�s study raises an uncomfortable question: Is abortion a social
good?�

In order to gauge the true outcome for a turnaway, Lang argues, you
must not ask the woman what she thinks, but rather, compare their
socioeconomic status to women who did have abortions. He quotes study
author Foster, who said, �You would need to look at the people who
managed to get the abortion and find whether a woman who started out
similarly is now in school, building a stable relationship, career or,
possibly, that later she had a baby she was ready for.�

Lang grudgingly admits that women who gave birth after being refused
abortion do, in fact, report that they are happy with the way things
turned out by a lopsided margin.

But, lamenting that someone might use further claimp down on abortion,
he quotes a bioethicist who accuses those women of lying to themselves
and to society.

�Some would use these data as justification to further restrict
abortion � women rarely regret having a child, even one they thought
they didn�t want,� Lang writes. �But as Katie Watson, a bioethicist at
Northwestern University�s Feinberg School of Medicine, points out, we
tell ourselves certain stories for a reason. �It�s psychologically in
our interest to tell a positive story and move forward,� she says.
�It�s wonderfully functional for women who have children to be glad
they have them and for women who did not have children to enjoy the
opportunities that afforded them.��

Lang celebrates the story of a 38-year-old woman , J., who, determined
to abort her surprise baby, suffered through one botched abortion and
drove to three more clinics in three western states before finally
finding someone to successfully perform the late-term procedure. By
that time, she was more than 23 weeks pregnant.

After the abortion, Lang wrote, �J. got a job operating heavy
machinery at a manufacturing plant for $15 an hour. She had been
applying for the past six months. If she had had the baby, she said,
she wouldn�t have been able to take the job.�

In Lang�s mind, operating heavy machinery at a factory for $15 an hour
is clearly a superior outcome to having a baby that might become, in
the words of S., �more than my best friend, more than the love of my
life�my whole world.�













J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

Honesty. Decency. Integrity

Jeanne Douglas

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Jun 15, 2013, 10:40:54 PM6/15/13
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In article <am7qr8dn711avbnp8...@4ax.com>,
J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:

> Compare this with the percentage of women who have abortions and
> suffer from life-long guilt, drug addiction, alcoholism, depression
> and suicide.
>
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> http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/what-happens-to-women-who-are-denied-abortion
> s-95-percent-live-happily-ever
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> Analysis
>
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> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York Times
> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title “What
> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?” Written by Joshua Lang, a
> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> attempts to answer the question using the “Turnaway Study,” a study of
> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
>
> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers

No need to read past this lie.

There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

MarkA

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Jun 15, 2013, 10:55:01 PM6/15/13
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The study, according to the description, looked at women who were too far
along to have an abortion. So, if it takes you 23 weeks to decide you
want an abortion, you probably don't really want one all that badly.

--
MarkA

If you can read this, you can stop reading now.


W.T.S.

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:01:24 AM6/16/13
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Article <am7qr8dn711avbnp8...@4ax.com>, Jerk...@Lies.biz
>
1. They lead lives of poverty and want.
2. Their families are destroyed.
3. Their health is damaged, and they die an early age.
4. They find that the pro-liars don't give a damn about them or the
kids after birth (life ends at birth).
5. They can no longer marry the man of their choice, only losers will
have anything to do with them.
6. Their children end up in prison (pro-liars love to spend money on
prisons, but not one cent for schools).
"J", Lie Site News dot biz isn't a reliable source of news or
information of any sort. Find a new, reliable news site.
Find an actual source, not an internet lie rag!
>

We are indeed Carcinoma Sapiens, destroying, by insane fecundity, that
which we need to survive.
>
As always, organized religion opposes progress -
>
See what RELIGION does to peoples' minds?
>
Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still torture and
kill each other over ancient myths and superstitions.
>
"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of
love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned
alive with the genuinely kind intention of saving souls from the eternal
fire of hell." --- Karl Popper
>
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When
many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
--- Robert M. Pirsig
>
Either God wants to abolish evil and cannot, or he can but does not want
to.
If he wants to but cannot he is impotent. If he can
but does not want to, he is wicked. If he neither can nor wants to, then
he
is both powerless and wicked.
--- Epicurus, Greek philosopher, circa 300 B.C.
>
"Act of God" disasters like the Japanese earthquake expose the myth.
Either
God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like
this, or he doesn't care to, or he doesn't exist. He is thus either
impotent, evil, or imaginary.
--- CNN Belief Blog, 3-20-11
>
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things
and
evil people doing evil things. But for good people
to do evil things, that takes religion."
--- Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
>
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from
religious conviction." --- Blaise Pascal.
>
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
false,
and by rulers as useful."
--- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)
>
"Religion once ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages." --- Ruth
Green.
>
"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." ---
Victor Stenger.
>
"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." ---
Clarence Darrow
>
"As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of
religion." --- Butterfly McQueen
>
"Religion was invented when the first con-man met the first fool." -
Mark
Twain
>
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." --- Mark Twain
>
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character
in
all fiction." --- Richard Dawkins
>
"Cult today, religion tomorrow."
>
The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
The Secular Coalition for America: www.secular.org
Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
www.infidels.org
www.humaniststudies.org
www.atheistalliance.org
www.americanhumanist.org
http://tinyurl.com/nj32s6f

duke

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Jun 16, 2013, 8:29:13 AM6/16/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:

>> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York Times
>> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title “What
>> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?” Written by Joshua Lang, a
>> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
>> attempts to answer the question using the “Turnaway Study,” a study of
>> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
>> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
>>
>> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
>
>No need to read past this lie.
>
>There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".

That's exactly why woe_men are so stupid.

The dukester, American - American

********************************************
Repeal Obama - most impotent president ever.
Five major US scandals and still going strong:
a)Fast/Furious,b)IRS,c)NSA d)News Phone Records,
e)Selective enforcement of environmental laws
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W.T.S.

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In article <erbrr89qtv0icdd63...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) ? The New York Times
> >> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title ?What
> >> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?? Written by Joshua Lang, a
> >> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> >> attempts to answer the question using the ?Turnaway Study,? a study of
> >> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> >> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
> >>
> >> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
> >
> >No need to read past this lie.
> >
> >There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".
>
> That's exactly why I'm so stupid. But like me, most pro-liars are
> also very stupid.
>
> The pukester, KKKatholic Idiot.
> ********************************************
> Denounce Catholicism, it's too stupid to
> ever change for the better.
> ********************************************

Syd M.

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Jun 16, 2013, 10:59:17 AM6/16/13
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On Jun 15, 10:17 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Compare this with the percentage of women who have abortions and
> suffer from life-long guilt, drug addiction, alcoholism, depression
> and suicide.
>
>

That only exists in the fevered, hateful minds of forced birthers.

PDW

Syd M.

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Jun 16, 2013, 11:00:02 AM6/16/13
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On Jun 16, 8:29 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York Times
> >> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title “What
> >> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?” Written by Joshua Lang, a
> >> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> >> attempts to answer the question using the “Turnaway Study,” a study of
> >> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> >> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
>
> >> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
>
> >No need to read past this lie.
>
> >There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".
>
> That's exactly why woe_men are so stupid.
>
>

And another hateful bigot is heard from.

PDW

•RLMeasures

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:36:43 PM6/16/13
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> Compare this with the percentage of women who have abortions and
> suffer from life-long guilt, drug addiction, alcoholism, depression
> and suicide.
>
• I know five women who had abortions. None of them have any RC-guilt
about it.

•RLMeasures

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:39:25 PM6/16/13
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In article <hlwdjsd2-C8C7B8...@news.giganews.com>, Jeanne
Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <am7qr8dn711avbnp8...@4ax.com>,
> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> > Compare this with the percentage of women who have abortions and
> > suffer from life-long guilt, drug addiction, alcoholism, depression
> > and suicide.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/what-happens-to-women-who-are-denied-abortion
> > s-95-percent-live-happily-ever
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Analysis
> >
> >
> >
> > NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York Times
> > Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title “What
> > Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?” Written by Joshua Lang, a
> > student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> > attempts to answer the question using the “Turnaway Study,” a study of
> > some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> > to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
> >
> > The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
>
> No need to read past this lie.

• J seems to think that lying about abortion is very okay with the RC
Jesus/God.

•RLMeasures

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:40:40 PM6/16/13
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In article <erbrr89qtv0icdd63...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York Times
> >> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title “What
> >> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?” Written by Joshua Lang, a
> >> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> >> attempts to answer the question using the “Turnaway Study,” a study of
> >> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> >> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
> >>
> >> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
> >
> >No need to read past this lie.
> >
> >There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".
>
> That's exactly why woe_men are so stupid.
>
• The real Duke shows his face.

elizabeth

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Jun 16, 2013, 10:18:08 PM6/16/13
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On Jun 15, 7:55 pm, MarkA <some...@somewhere.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <am7qr8dn711avbnp8t2matje1vaf3ls...@4ax.com>,
> >  J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Compare this with the percentage of women who have abortions and
> >> suffer from life-long guilt, drug addiction, alcoholism, depression
> >> and suicide.
>
> >>http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/what-happens-to-women-who-are-denied...
> >> s-95-percent-live-happily-ever
>
> >> Analysis
>
> >> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York Times
> >> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title “What
> >> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?” Written by Joshua Lang, a
> >> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> >> attempts to answer the question using the “Turnaway Study,” a study of
> >> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> >> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
>
> >> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
>
> > No need to read past this lie.
>
> > There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".
>
> The study, according to the description, looked at women who were too far
> along to have an abortion.  So, if it takes you 23 weeks to decide you
> want an abortion, you probably don't really want one all that badly.
>
> --
> MarkA
>
> If you can read this, you can stop reading now.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Nor does this questionable source's very limited sample contradict the
longitudinal studies of Henry P. David.

duke

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Jun 17, 2013, 4:21:52 PM6/17/13
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Yes, it's truth in the face of jdyke.

•RLMeasures

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In article <hurur81gk6tbclim7...@4ax.com>, duke
<duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:40:40 -0700, r...@somis.org (•RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <erbrr89qtv0icdd63...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York Times
> >> >> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title “What
> >> >> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?” Written by Joshua Lang, a
> >> >> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> >> >> attempts to answer the question using the “Turnaway Study,” a study of
> >> >> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> >> >> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
> >> >>
> >> >> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
> >> >
> >> >No need to read past this lie.
> >> >
> >> >There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".
> >>
> >> That's exactly why woe_men are so stupid.
> >>
> >• The real Duke shows his face.
>
> Yes, it's truth in the face of jdyke.
>
• "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which
cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."
--- Matthew 15:11

Johnny Football

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:41:21 PM6/17/13
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Well, religion defiles just about everything, in or out of the mouth.

•RLMeasures

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In article <9levr89q59oudf02q...@4ax.com>, Johnny Football
• Indeed, and not just in the mouth, but in the part that's South.

duke

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:41:21 -0700, Johnny Football <johnny_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
East Texas rednecks understand.

•RLMeasures

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In article <e431s8lbensmtu82k...@4ax.com>, duke
• Most Texans from the West Texas oil patch know that religion is the
slickest scam in all the land.

duke

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Satan thanks God for making it a "well" lubricated trip down to the flames.

W.T.S.

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Jun 19, 2013, 9:56:59 AM6/19/13
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In article <5073s8hjhr03li1j9...@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 10:38:34 -0700, r...@somis.org (?RLMeasures) wrote:
>
> >In article <e431s8lbensmtu82k...@4ax.com>, duke
> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:41:21 -0700, Johnny Football
> ><johnny_...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:37:31 -0700, r...@somis.org (?RLMeasures) wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>In article <hurur81gk6tbclim7...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> >><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:40:40 -0700, r...@somis.org (?RLMeasures) wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >In article <erbrr89qtv0icdd63...@4ax.com>, duke
> >> >>> ><duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:40:54 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
> >> >><hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> >> NEW YORK CITY, June 14, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) ? The New York Times
> >> >>> >> >> Magazine will run a story this Sunday with the ominous title ?What
> >> >>> >> >> Happens to Women Who Are Denied Abortions?? Written by Joshua
> >Lang, a
> >> >>> >> >> student in the UC Berkeley-UCSF Joint Medical Program, the story
> >> >>> >> >> attempts to answer the question using the ?Turnaway Study,? a
> >study of
> >> >>> >> >> some 200 women who sought abortions and were turned away, mostly due
> >> >>> >> >> to being too far along to legally perform the procedure.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> The study was performed by a group of pro-abortion researchers
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >No need to read past this lie.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >There's no such thing as a "pro-abortion researcher".
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> That's exactly why woe_men are so stupid.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >? The real Duke shows his face.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yes, it's truth in the face of jdyke.
> >> >>>
> >> >>? "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which
> >> >>cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."
> >> >>--- Matthew 15:11
> >> >
> >> >Well, religion defiles just about everything, in or out of the mouth.
> >>
> >> East Texas rednecks understand.
> >>
> >? Most Texans from the West Texas oil patch know that religion is the
> >slickest scam in all the land.
>
> Satan thanks God for making it a "well" lubricated trip down to the flames.
Yes, still a slick con game using nothing but sock puppets.
>
> The dukester


Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22270271
>
http://tinyurl.com/anghyfr
>
http://tinyurl.com/a887er9
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
>
http://tinyurl.com/ayk7czf
>
http://tinyurl.com/43hp62x
>
http://tinyurl.com/b29z62n
>
The methodology of the Religious and the Right has always been:
1. Lie.
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible.
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible.
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie.
5. The lie will then be made into some form of law.
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie.
-> Slow thinkers --> Stay Right!
>
http://tinyurl.com/nj32s6f

•RLMeasures

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In article <5073s8hjhr03li1j9...@4ax.com>, duke
• unless of course it's Eskimo Hell which is as cold as a witch's tits in
January.
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