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Osprey

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:12:34 PM11/11/09
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More and more reports are coming out now that the shooter in the Fort
Hood shooting had given off warnings. This is a horrible tragedy that
could have been prevented.

Where were those Democrat leaders? Where was Obama? Why didn't Obama
stop this?

After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. Why not
blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?

Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.

IAAH

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:39:11 PM11/11/09
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The point obviously being that false equivalences
are your favourite thing ever? Or is the point
that you don't know what sarcasm is, or how to
apply it?

--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
Bertrand Russell

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 11, 2009, 4:17:40 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.

You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.

Spartakus

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:02:58 PM11/11/09
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Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> More and more reports are coming out now that the shooter in the Fort
> Hood shooting had given off warnings.  This is a horrible tragedy that
> could have been prevented.
>
> Where were those Democrat leaders?

Malik Hasan was a "person of interest" for investigators since 2007.
During that time, he allegedly exchanged emails with a radical Muslim
cleric in Yemen. Sounds to me like there was an ongoing investigation
that had a chance of going somewhere, at least until Pete Hoekstra
disclosed knowledge of these communications. Hoekstra has an "R"
after his name, btw.

> Where was Obama? Why didn't Obama stop this?
>
> After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. Why not
> blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.

Indeed it has. The point being that you will use anything at hand,
including tragedies at Fort Hood, as a blunt instrument to smack
around people you don't like. That's but one facet of your complete
lack of character, Bobby.

Tom S.

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:46:41 PM11/11/09
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:12:34 -0800 (PST), Osprey
<Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>More and more reports are coming out now that the shooter in the Fort
>Hood shooting had given off warnings. This is a horrible tragedy that
>could have been prevented.

Then Why didn't Bush prevent it?? He was, after all a student in the
Armed Forces Medical Institute, during the Bush era and was actually
counseled to not proselytize to patients during that time.


>
>Where were those Democrat leaders?

Doing their jobs. The Repubs were in charge when his paranoia
manifested. Where were the Repub leaders??


> Where was Obama?
In the Senate

> Why didn't Obama
>stop this?

He was a Senator


>
>After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. Why not
>blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?

Why didn't you stop that poor drunk from getting beat to death in the
Delaware prison a couple of years ago?? You were there. Why didn't
you stop it??
>
>Yes, it's sarcasm..

You still don't know sarcasm or how to employ it.

Tom S.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:30:22 PM11/11/09
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In article
<023cb1a6-2b92-4b64...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Gwen Bennet <bennetw...@gmail.com> wrote:


poor, stupid heishman didn't realize that the same "reasoning" he used
to implicate obama and democrats actually implicated himself in the
delaware prison guard crimes.

with people like ooopsy in the delaware prison system, it's easy to see
why delaware is recognized as one of the nation most corrupt and
troubled systems.

pnyikos

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:33:43 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 8:30 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> added
talk.abortion to the newsgroups, and since I haven't seen Gwen's post
over in a.a. yet, I'm doing a twofer to save time.

Go for it, Keegan. Post your usual crap about how I am supposedly
afraid to let Gwen see my remarks, when she is actively involved in
the thread herself, and besides, you are such good buddies with her
that you are sure to let her know all about it if she misses it, and
maybe even offer to ghost-write a reply for her, unless Humphrey beats
you to it.

> In article
> <023cb1a6-2b92-4b64-97a0-a0739a44a...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,


>  Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> > > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.

Perhaps not realizing that the abortion newsgroups are practically
built around the suffering of poor underprivileged women whose
"uteruses belong to" people who prevent them from getting free
abortions, in the eyes of the abortion rights fanatics with whom she
is good friends, Gwen put her foot in her mouth with:

> > You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.

Poor, stupid Gwen--doesn't realize that by devoting practically all
her time on the abortion newsgroups to dissing Osprey, and being
oblivious to the main issues involving abortion, she is coming across
as obsessed with him, to say the least.

Oh, yes, I've seen a few exceptions that prove the rule, like when she
posted that she joined the newsgroups because personal friends like
Keegan and Humphrey were involved. So she came to a place where she
knew she was always welcome no matter how dishonestly or idiotically
she behaved, as long as they remained her friends.

And, by devoting almost all her time to attacking just one of their
adversaries, she is secure in the knowledge that she will always be on
familiar ground. That is important for someone like her, someone is in
a state of arrested adolescence emotionally and intellectually.

> poor, stupid heishman didn't realize that the same "reasoning" he used  
> to implicate obama and democrats actually implicated himself in the
> delaware prison guard crimes.

What a jerk you are, Keegan, pretending that by sarcastically showing
you how stupid your anti-Bush ravings were, he is actually adopting
your twisted logic.

> with people like ooopsy in the delaware prison system, it's easy to see
> why delaware is recognized as one of the nation most corrupt and
> troubled systems.

Is that why you keep calling him corrupt, because of the general
reputation of Delaware police departments? You have nothing specific
to nail him on?

And where is this alleged "recognition" to be read about on the
internet, besides the posts of such as you and "elizabeth" and
Humphrey and Gwen?

Peter Nyikos

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:50:27 PM11/11/09
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In article
<28e8642e-4494-4d75...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > poor, stupid heishman didn't realize that the same "reasoning" he used �
> > to implicate obama and democrats actually implicated himself in the
> > delaware prison guard crimes.
>
> What a jerk you are, Keegan, pretending that by sarcastically showing
> you how stupid your anti-Bush ravings were, he is actually adopting
> your twisted logic.


ha ha ha. i love it when you conclusively demonstrate that you have no
idea of the topic under discussion and that you entered the thread
simply to post new lies.

of course, you also demonstrate a level of ignorance uncommon in phds?

are you really trying to go on with the charade that you are peter
nyikos?

by the way, in case you are still confused, i hadn't posted anything
about bush to this thread. in fact, i hadn't posted to this thread at
all except in response to gwen, the post you followed up with your new
lie.

but since you engaged me on this topic, why have you repeatedly run away
from your false laims of forgery and your having been exposed as a
slimeball who has altered the text of others? do you really think that
by ignoring issues, people will forget what you are?

Ray Fischer

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:11:17 PM11/11/09
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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>More and more reports are coming out now that the shooter in the Fort
>Hood shooting had given off warnings.

Not unlike you, Asshole.

> This is a horrible tragedy that
>could have been prevented.

And so you should be fired and put under observation lest you use a
gun to start killing people.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

pnyikos

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:55:10 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 9:50 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <28e8642e-4494-4d75-b226-a6dc39b49...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > poor, stupid heishman didn't realize that the same "reasoning" he used  
> > > to implicate obama and democrats actually implicated himself in the
> > > delaware prison guard crimes.
>
> > What a jerk you are, Keegan, pretending that by sarcastically showing
> > you how stupid your anti-Bush ravings were, he is actually adopting
> > your twisted logic.
>
> ha ha ha. i love it when you conclusively demonstrate that you have no
> idea of the topic under discussion and that you entered the thread
[...]

> by the way, in case you are still confused, i hadn't posted anything
> about bush to this thread.

I'm supposed to be impressed? A man who has posted for something like
20 years to the abortion newsgroups, and is even now trying to
resurrect a false charge about something that happened about 17 years
ago (although he rounds the number off to 15, to give him a benefit of
the doubt he doesn't deserve), acting as though only what happened on
this thread were relevant to what Osprey said about y'all?

Don't you ever get tired of playing puerile games?

Peter Nyikos

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:04:28 AM11/12/09
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But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
politicians you don't like.

i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
insurance.

ALL Veterans who served their terms in the military service is
entitled to VA health care.

They just have to serve honorably and serve their term.

But Keegan left that out.


Now, about you...

How about this little bit you made up when Papa Jack died.

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On 08 Nov 2004 02:08:49 GMT, youngopini...@aol.com (J Young) wrote:

>>From: Patrick Lee Humphrey patr...@io.com
>>Date: 11/7/2004 8:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
>>Message-id: <szk8y9djgk2....@fnord.io.com>
>>
>>"Johnny" <wxpprofessio...@msn.com> writes:
>>
>>>My condolences.
>>>Are you serious?
>>
>>Serious, and for all his warts, Jackson at least wasn't the nutter *you* are.
>>Take the hint.
>>
>>--
>> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
>
>He was a wise man.

He was ignorant and had absolutely no consideration for some people's
rights. He'd have had no compunction to prevent
me from deciding what's best for my family -- he *said* a lot in here
which was indicative of that. He was a product of his time -- and for
all it's worth, maybe there was a lesson in this for him.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:05:03 AM11/12/09
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Gwen forgets about her own lack of humanity.

When Papa Jack died, she was QUICK to post this.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:06:42 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 11, 5:46 pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:12:34 -0800 (PST), Osprey
>
> <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >More and more reports are coming out now that the shooter in the Fort
> >Hood shooting had given off warnings.  This is a horrible tragedy that
> >could have been prevented.
>
> Then Why didn't Bush prevent it??  He was, after all a student in the
> Armed Forces Medical Institute, during the Bush era and was actually
> counseled to not proselytize to patients during that time.
>
>
>
> >Where were those Democrat leaders?
>
> Doing their jobs.  The Repubs were in charge when his paranoia
> manifested.  Where were the Repub leaders??

The Dems were in charge for the past three years. What planet are you
on???


>
> > Where was Obama?
>
> In the Senate
>
> > Why didn't Obama
> >stop this?
>
> He was a Senator

He was, just a few months ago???

Hmmm, what planet do you live on?


>
>
>
> >After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> >blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> Why didn't you stop that poor drunk from getting beat to death in the
> Delaware prison a couple of years ago??  You were there.  Why didn't
> you stop it??

I was there??? Where do you have some evidence to support that claim?

I'll just chalk that little statement up as another one of your lies.

You don't mind do you? If you do, too bad.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:19:30 AM11/12/09
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You don't care if people die. You only care if you have something
with which to attack people.

And, as it happens, she was telling the truth about Jackass.

But we all know how much you hate the truth, Asshole.

>Message-ID: <uvtuo0t8ooj4amr9b...@4ax.com>


>On 08 Nov 2004 02:08:49 GMT, youngopini...@aol.com (J Young) wrote:
>>He was a wise man.
>
>He was ignorant and had absolutely no consideration for some people's
>rights. He'd have had no compunction to prevent
>me from deciding what's best for my family -- he *said* a lot in here
>which was indicative of that. He was a product of his time -- and for
>all it's worth, maybe there was a lesson in this for him.


--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:20:38 AM11/12/09
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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 11, 4:17�pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 11, 2:12�pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. �Why not
>> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>>
>> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>>
>> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
>But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>politicians you don't like.

Yeah! So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American
soldiers!

>i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>insurance.

Stop lying, Asshole. He quoted an actual study.

But we know how you hate the truth.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:21:05 AM11/12/09
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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 11, 5:46�pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:12:34 -0800 (PST), Osprey
>>
>> <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >More and more reports are coming out now that the shooter in the Fort
>> >Hood shooting had given off warnings. �This is a horrible tragedy that
>> >could have been prevented.
>>
>> Then Why didn't Bush prevent it?? �He was, after all a student in the
>> Armed Forces Medical Institute, during the Bush era and was actually
>> counseled to not proselytize to patients during that time.
>>
>>
>>
>> >Where were those Democrat leaders?
>>
>> Doing their jobs. �The Repubs were in charge when his paranoia
>> manifested. �Where were the Repub leaders??
>
>The Dems were in charge for the past three years.

Are you drunk?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:22:48 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 1:19 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

Lie number 1

 You only care if you have something
> with which to attack people.

Lie number 2 AND pot calling kettle black

>
> And, as it happens, she was telling the truth about Jackass.

and Lie number 3 and a show of hypocrisy to boot.

>
> But we all know how much you hate the truth

And finally Lie number 4

4 lies, pot calling kettle black, and hypocrisy.

Typical Fischer day.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:23:43 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

No, he quoted a very biased piece that left out MUCH of the truth.

How many of those Veterans served honorably and served their complete
tour of duty?

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:39:53 AM11/12/09
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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 12, 1:20�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Osprey �<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 11, 4:17�pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 11, 2:12�pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. �Why not
>> >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>>
>> >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>>
>> >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>>
>> >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>> >politicians you don't like.
>>
>> Yeah! �So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American
>> soldiers!
>>
>> >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>> >insurance.
>>
>> Stop lying, Asshole. �He quoted an actual study.
>
>No, he quoted a very biased piece

Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:43:23 AM11/12/09
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It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
Benefits for the rest of their life.

Liars like you want to leave that out.

When I asked you, how many of those veterans served their full terms
and honorably, you ran faster than melting butter runs out of a frying
pan.

You know the study leaves out crucial information to come to a logical
conclusion. It's a bogus study, it's biased, and it's false.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 2:32:37 AM11/12/09
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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 12, 1:39�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Osprey �<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 12, 1:20�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> Osprey �<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 11, 4:17�pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Nov 11, 2:12�pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. �Why not
>> >> >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>>
>> >> >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>>
>> >> >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> >> >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>>
>> >> >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>> >> >politicians you don't like.
>>
>> >> Yeah! �So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American
>> >> soldiers!
>>
>> >> >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>> >> >insurance.
>>
>> >> Stop lying, Asshole. �He quoted an actual study.
>>
>> >No, he quoted a very biased piece
>>
>> Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>
>It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>Benefits for the rest of their life.

Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working
people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough
to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie
Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School.


The Harvard group analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau's
March 2009 Current Population Survey, which surveyed Americans
about their insurance coverage and veteran status, and found that
1,461,615 veterans between the ages of 18 and 64 were uninsured in
2008. Veterans were only classified as uninsured if they neither
had health insurance nor received ongoing care at Veterans Health
Administration (VA) hospitals or clinics.

>Liars like you want to leave that out.

Dumbshit assholes like you don't even realize how ignorant, stupid,
and uneducated you are.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 2:33:20 AM11/12/09
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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>Benefits for the rest of their life.

While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
during military service.

Woolhandler said veterans who pass a means test are eligible for
care in VA facilities, but have lower priority status (Priority 5
or 7, depending upon income level). Veterans with higher incomes
are classified in the lowest priority group and are not eligible
for VA enrollment.
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/november/over_2200_veterans_.php

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Boo Radley

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Nov 12, 2009, 2:51:10 AM11/12/09
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"Osprey" <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2d083169-032e-474b...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...

>
>ALL Veterans who served their terms in the military service is
>entitled to VA health care.
>
>They just have to serve honorably and serve their term.


No, not all are eligible based on their income or whether or not they were
injured in combat.

http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/Library/pubs/VAIncomeThresholds/VAIncomeThresholds.pdf

Others are considered low priority and are swept aside, especially since
Bush did his cuts to the VA and let private companies handle many of the
cases. I know because I own a business that transports veterans to their
doctor appointments at VA Hospitals. They see the difference, especially how
Bush took away their free medicine and made anyone that makes over 18K a
year pay full price for prescriptions. Of course you cowards that never
served don't care about our Vets since you want them to go die for the
Billionaires to steal more money from the American Taxpayer.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:41:35 AM11/12/09
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And if they are U.S. citizens who have served a complete term in
military service and received an honorable discharge, they
automatically have health insurance through the VA for the rest of his
or her life.


>
>     The Harvard group analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau's
>     March 2009 Current Population Survey, which surveyed Americans
>     about their insurance coverage and veteran status, and found that
>     1,461,615 veterans between the ages of 18 and 64 were uninsured in
>     2008. Veterans were only classified as uninsured if they neither
>     had health insurance nor received ongoing care at Veterans Health
>     Administration (VA) hospitals or clinics.
>
> >Liars like you want to leave that out.
>
> Dumbshit assholes like you don't even realize how ignorant, stupid,
> and uneducated you are.

Being that you never served in the military and you obviously don't
understand the military, you are not prepared for this. I see your
frustration, due to your own ignorance, has left you with no other
alternative but to act like a fifth grader.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:46:08 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 2:51 am, "Boo Radley" <Kill...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
> "Osprey" <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:2d083169-032e-474b...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >ALL Veterans who served their terms in the military service is
> >entitled to VA health care.
>
> >They just have to serve honorably and serve their term.
>
> No, not all are eligible based on their income or whether or not they were
> injured in combat.
>
> http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/Library/pubs/VAIncomeThresholds/...

>
> Others are considered low priority and are swept aside, especially since
> Bush did his cuts to the VA and let private companies handle many of the
> cases. I know because I own a business that transports veterans to their
> doctor appointments at VA Hospitals. They see the difference, especially how
> Bush took away their free medicine and made anyone that makes over 18K a
> year pay full price for prescriptions. Of course you cowards that never
> served don't care about our Vets since you want them to go die for the
> Billionaires to steal more money from the American Taxpayer.

http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/

You may be eligible! Below are some of the basic factors that go into
determining your eligibility for health benefits:

•Eligibility for most veterans’ health care benefits is based solely
on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
other than dishonorable conditions.
•Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty
by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
duty.
•Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
•Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
•Veteran’s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
medical conditions.
•Veteran’s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers
full-service health care to women veterans.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:52:25 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 1:21 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

What country do you live in? Who was in control of the senate and
house?

Hmmm, I don't know what country you live in, but here in the U.S., it
was the Democrats.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 6:53:38 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 2:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
> >their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
> >Benefits for the rest of their life.
>
>     While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
>     the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
>     Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
>     veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
>     military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
>     during military service.

Below are some of the basic factors that go into determining your
eligibility for health benefits:

•Eligibility for most veterans’ health care benefits is based solely
on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
other than dishonorable conditions.
•Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty
by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
duty.
•Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
•Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
•Veteran’s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
medical conditions.
•Veteran’s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers
full-service health care to women veterans.

http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/

So take note: This alledged study, is lying.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 12, 2009, 8:07:33 AM11/12/09
to
In article
<5d4677e8-10f6-4e9b...@e20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

you deleted conclusive proof that the claim is true
>
> �You only care if you have something


> > with which to attack people.
>
> Lie number 2 AND pot calling kettle black

you deleted conclusive proof that the claim is true


>
> >
> > And, as it happens, she was telling the truth about Jackass.
>
> and Lie number 3 and a show of hypocrisy to boot.

you deleted conclusive proof that the claim is true


>
> >
> > But we all know how much you hate the truth
>
> And finally Lie number 4

you deleted conclusive proof that the claim is true
>

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 12, 2009, 8:09:22 AM11/12/09
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In article
<3a960134-bd0b-4b0c...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
pnyikos <nyi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> On Nov 11, 9:50�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <28e8642e-4494-4d75-b226-a6dc39b49...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > poor, stupid heishman didn't realize that the same "reasoning" he used �
> > > > to implicate obama and democrats actually implicated himself in the
> > > > delaware prison guard crimes.
> >
> > > What a jerk you are, Keegan, pretending that by sarcastically showing
> > > you how stupid your anti-Bush ravings were, he is actually adopting
> > > your twisted logic.
> >
> > ha ha ha. i love it when you conclusively demonstrate that you have no
> > idea of the topic under discussion and that you entered the thread
> [...]
> > by the way, in case you are still confused, i hadn't posted anything
> > about bush to this thread.
>
> I'm supposed to be impressed?


why would your own lies impress you?

you post them to impress others. sadly for you, you have never succeeded.

james g. keegan jr.

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Nov 12, 2009, 8:11:25 AM11/12/09
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> On Nov 11, 9:50�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <28e8642e-4494-4d75-b226-a6dc39b49...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > poor, stupid heishman didn't realize that the same "reasoning" he used �
> > > > to implicate obama and democrats actually implicated himself in the
> > > > delaware prison guard crimes.
> >
> > > What a jerk you are, Keegan, pretending that by sarcastically showing
> > > you how stupid your anti-Bush ravings were, he is actually adopting
> > > your twisted logic.
> >
> > ha ha ha. i love it when you conclusively demonstrate that you have no
> > idea of the topic under discussion and that you entered the thread
> [...]
> > by the way, in case you are still confused, i hadn't posted anything
> > about bush to this thread.
>
> I'm supposed to be impressed? A man who has posted for something like
> 20 years to the abortion newsgroups, and is even now trying to
> resurrect a false charge about something that happened about 17 years
> ago (although he rounds the number off to 15, to give him a benefit of
> the doubt


that isn;t a bad piece of introspection. i suppose you felt there was no
harm in admitting to what you had done since everyone knows it anyway.

shouldn't you have apologized to me and all the others you have so often
lied about?

IAAH

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:11:20 AM11/12/09
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On 11/12/09 6:53 AM, * Osprey wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
>> While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
>> the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
>> Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
>> veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
>> military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
>> during military service.
>
> Below are some of the basic factors that go into determining your
> eligibility for health benefits:
>
> �Eligibility for most veterans� health care benefits is based solely

> on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
> Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
> other than dishonorable conditions.
> �Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty

> by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
> Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
> members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
> have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
> nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
> duty.
> �Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
> �Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
> �Veteran�s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
> medical conditions.
> �Veteran�s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers

> full-service health care to women veterans.
>
> http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/
>
> So take note: This alledged study, is lying.
>

Funny, if you do the 2-question eligibility survey
*on that site* about qualifying for VA Health
Care, and answer "yes" to "You served in the
active military, naval, or air service and were
honorably discharged or released" it says "You
probably qualify for VA Health Care. Qualification
may depend on your household income."

Do you see "may", Bipolar Bob? Did you note
"household income", Bipolar Bob? It's obvious
(from the horse's mouth) that income is a factor.

As opposed to what the horse's ass has been lying
about.

--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
Bertrand Russell

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:55:43 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 10:11 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> On 11/12/09 6:53 AM, * Osprey wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 2:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
> >>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
> >>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
> >>     While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
> >>     the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
> >>     Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
> >>     veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
> >>     military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
> >>     during military service.
>
> > Below are some of the basic factors that go into determining your
> > eligibility for health benefits:
>
> > •Eligibility for most veterans’ health care benefits is based solely

> > on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
> > Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
> > other than dishonorable conditions.
> > •Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty

> > by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
> > Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
> > members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
> > have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
> > nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
> > duty.
> > •Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
> > •Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
> > •Veteran’s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
> > medical conditions.
> > •Veteran’s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers

> > full-service health care to women veterans.
>
> >http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/
>
> > So take note: This alledged study, is lying.
>
> Funny, if you do the 2-question eligibility survey
> *on that site* about qualifying for VA Health
> Care, and answer "yes" to "You served in the
> active military, naval, or air service and were
> honorably discharged or released" it says "You
> probably qualify for VA Health Care. Qualification
> may depend on your household income."

I can tell you right now, that people who served in the military,
their full term, and received an honorable discharge are eligible for
VA health care for the rest of their life. I know this, because I am
associated with the VA. I am also a vet myself.
I don't know of a vet that was EVER refused VA health care.

>
> Do you see "may", Bipolar Bob?

Paranoid Adam, do you understand that you have no argument and this
little study that Keegan refers to is totally dishonest and leaves out
information.

Information such as..

the vets they are refering to, how many received less than honorable
discharges?
How many didn't honor their full term?

It doesn't address VA health care at all.

But you liberals will jump on the very first bandwagon you can, as
long as you think that bandwagon suits your agenda.


IAAH

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:06:46 AM11/12/09
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On 11/12/09 10:55 AM, * Osprey wrote:
> On Nov 12, 10:11 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> On 11/12/09 6:53 AM, * Osprey wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>> Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>>>>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>>>>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
>>>> While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
>>>> the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
>>>> Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
>>>> veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
>>>> military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
>>>> during military service.
>>> Below are some of the basic factors that go into determining your
>>> eligibility for health benefits:
>>> �Eligibility for most veterans� health care benefits is based solely

>>> on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
>>> Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
>>> other than dishonorable conditions.
>>> �Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty

>>> by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
>>> Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
>>> members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
>>> have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
>>> nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
>>> duty.
>>> �Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
>>> �Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
>>> �Veteran�s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
>>> medical conditions.
>>> �Veteran�s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers

>>> full-service health care to women veterans.
>>> http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/
>>> So take note: This alledged study, is lying.
>> Funny, if you do the 2-question eligibility survey
>> *on that site* about qualifying for VA Health
>> Care, and answer "yes" to "You served in the
>> active military, naval, or air service and were
>> honorably discharged or released" it says "You
>> probably qualify for VA Health Care. Qualification
>> may depend on your household income."
>
> I can tell you right now, that people who served in the military,
> their full term, and received an honorable discharge are eligible for
> VA health care for the rest of their life. I know this, because I am
> associated with the VA. I am also a vet myself.
> I don't know of a vet that was EVER refused VA health care.

Ooooh. Anecdata.
Refute the VA web site, then.

>
>
>
>> Do you see "may", Bipolar Bob?
>
> Paranoid Adam, do you understand that you have no argument and this
> little study that Keegan refers to is totally dishonest and leaves out
> information.
>

My source is the VA WEB SITE, and they plainly say
that eligibility may be affected by household
income, Bipolar Bob - something you said was not so.

So let's see you refute that.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 11:21:20 AM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 11:06 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> On 11/12/09 10:55 AM, * Osprey wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 10:11 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> >> On 11/12/09 6:53 AM, * Osprey wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 12, 2:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>>> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
> >>>>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
> >>>>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
> >>>>     While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
> >>>>     the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
> >>>>     Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
> >>>>     veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
> >>>>     military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
> >>>>     during military service.
> >>> Below are some of the basic factors that go into determining your
> >>> eligibility for health benefits:
> >>> •Eligibility for most veterans’ health care benefits is based solely

> >>> on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
> >>> Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
> >>> other than dishonorable conditions.
> >>> •Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty

> >>> by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
> >>> Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
> >>> members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
> >>> have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
> >>> nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
> >>> duty.
> >>> •Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
> >>> •Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
> >>> •Veteran’s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
> >>> medical conditions.
> >>> •Veteran’s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers

I have, and let me now pick away at this study that Keegan used the
veterans for, to attack political opponents.

How many of those vets served their full term?
How many didn't receive honorable discharges?
How many of them were unable to receive VA health benefits, and if
so..why?

Now, answer those questions.

You know you can't.

Message has been deleted

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:20:08 PM11/12/09
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Why would anyone believe a stupid, lying asshole like you?

You don't know shit.

>> � � The Harvard group analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau's


>> � � March 2009 Current Population Survey, which surveyed Americans
>> � � about their insurance coverage and veteran status, and found that
>> � � 1,461,615 veterans between the ages of 18 and 64 were uninsured in
>> � � 2008. Veterans were only classified as uninsured if they neither
>> � � had health insurance nor received ongoing care at Veterans Health
>> � � Administration (VA) hospitals or clinics.
>>
>> >Liars like you want to leave that out.
>>
>> Dumbshit assholes like you don't even realize how ignorant, stupid,
>> and uneducated you are.
>
>Being that you never served in the military and you obviously don't

You don't work for the VA, Asshole.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:21:44 PM11/12/09
to

Asshole thinks that we should ignore the experts and believe him
instead, even when he has a long reputation of being a lying moron.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:23:15 PM11/12/09
to
Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 12, 1:21�am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Osprey �<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 11, 5:46�pm, Tom S. <tscal...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:12:34 -0800 (PST), Osprey
>>
>> >> <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >More and more reports are coming out now that the shooter in the Fort
>> >> >Hood shooting had given off warnings. �This is a horrible tragedy that
>> >> >could have been prevented.
>>
>> >> Then Why didn't Bush prevent it?? �He was, after all a student in the
>> >> Armed Forces Medical Institute, during the Bush era and was actually
>> >> counseled to not proselytize to patients during that time.
>>
>> >> >Where were those Democrat leaders?
>>
>> >> Doing their jobs. �The Repubs were in charge when his paranoia
>> >> manifested. �Where were the Repub leaders??
>>
>> >The Dems were in charge for the past three years.
>>
>> Are you drunk?
>
>What country do you live in?

Bush was a Democrat?

IAAH

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:24:33 PM11/12/09
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On 11/12/09 11:21 AM, * Osprey wrote:
> On Nov 12, 11:06 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> On 11/12/09 10:55 AM, * Osprey wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 10:11 am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/09 6:53 AM, * Osprey wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>> Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>>>>>>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>>>>>>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
>>>>>> While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
>>>>>> the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
>>>>>> Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
>>>>>> veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
>>>>>> military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
>>>>>> during military service.
>>>>> Below are some of the basic factors that go into determining your
>>>>> eligibility for health benefits:
>>>>> �Eligibility for most veterans� health care benefits is based solely

>>>>> on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
>>>>> Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
>>>>> other than dishonorable conditions.
>>>>> �Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty

>>>>> by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
>>>>> Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
>>>>> members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
>>>>> have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
>>>>> nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
>>>>> duty.
>>>>> �Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
>>>>> �Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
>>>>> �Veteran�s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
>>>>> medical conditions.
>>>>> �Veteran�s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers

How did you refute that again? By not showing that
I was wrong?
Again - I demonstrated that the VA itself says
that household income may disqualify veterans.
That's the end of it, Bipolar Bob. You lied.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:52:10 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 12:07 pm, Rob Par <rob...@mypbmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:51:10 -0500, "Boo Radley"
>
>
>
>
>
> <Kill...@mockingbird.com> wrote:
>
> >"Osprey" <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:2d083169-032e-474b...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>ALL Veterans who served their terms in the military service is
> >>entitled to VA health care.
>
> >>They just have to serve honorably and serve their term.
>
> >No, not all are eligible based on their income or whether or not they were
> >injured in combat.
>
> >http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/Library/pubs/VAIncomeThresholds/...

>
> >Others are considered low priority and are swept aside, especially since
> >Bush did his cuts to the VA and let private companies handle many of the
> >cases. I know because I own a business that transports veterans to their
> >doctor appointments at VA Hospitals. They see the difference, especially how
> >Bush took away their free medicine and made anyone that makes over 18K a
> >year pay full price for prescriptions. Of course you cowards that never
> >served don't care about our Vets since you want them to go die for the
> >Billionaires to steal more money from the American Taxpayer.
>
>   As a veteran who has 3 purple hearts and a bronze star. I also
> volunteer for Disabled American Veterans. Any medical problem arising
> from my military service is fully covered. Any other problems is need
> based, I pay a fee based on my ability to pay. I however have private
> medical coverage to pay my medical bills. So I go to private medical
> care facilities so that needy veterans can use the Vets service.  
>   Twice a week I leave from Kilgore Tx. and transport 6-8 veterans to
> the Dallas Veterans Hospital. I stay until all are ready to leave that
> can return home, and often return other that have been at the hospital
> for several days.  The low priority are usually drunks and drug
> addicts trying to get drugs.
>   And yes those that make over 18k pay a small office call fee and pay
> on a sliding scale part of their prescription cost for non military
> connected illness. Many are offered a berth in one of several care
> facility where they can be treated for mental illness or addiction.
> most refuse to accept and scream that they are denied medical care.
> What they want is free prescription drugs that can be sold, for money
> to buy alcohol or drugs.-

Thank you for your service to this country.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:52:45 PM11/12/09
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Being that you never served this country, due to your cowardness...
You don't know what you are talking about, let alone anything dealing
with military affairs.

Osprey

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Nov 12, 2009, 12:54:00 PM11/12/09
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Aww, Socialist Fischer is showing his lack of patience.

Tell me then, with these experts.
With the Vets they are talking about.

How many of them served their full terms?
How many of them received less than honorable discharges?
How many of them are eligible for VA Health benefits?
How many are not, and why?

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:35:51 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 1:05 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 9:33 pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 8:30 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> added
> > talk.abortion to the newsgroups, and since I haven't seen Gwen's post
> > over in a.a. yet, I'm doing a twofer to save time.
>
> > Go for it, Keegan.  Post your usual crap about how I am supposedly
> > afraid to let Gwen see my remarks, when she is actively involved in
> > the thread herself, and besides, you are such good buddies with her
> > that you are sure to let her know all about it if she misses it, and
> > maybe even offer to ghost-write a reply for her, unless Humphrey beats
> > you to it.
>
> > > In article
> > > <023cb1a6-2b92-4b64-97a0-a0739a44a...@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,

> > >  Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> > > > > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > > > > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>
> > Perhaps not realizing that the abortion newsgroups are practically
> > built around the suffering of poor underprivileged women whose
> > "uteruses belong to" people who prevent them from getting free
> > abortions, in the eyes of the abortion rights fanatics with whom she
> > is good friends, Gwen put her foot in her mouth with:

>
> > > > You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > > > others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> > Poor, stupid Gwen--doesn't realize that by devoting practically all
> > her time on the abortion newsgroups to dissing Osprey, and being
> > oblivious to the main issues involving abortion, she is coming across
> > as obsessed with him, to say the least.
>
> > Oh, yes, I've seen a few exceptions that prove the rule, like when she
> > posted that she joined the newsgroups because personal friends like
> > Keegan and Humphrey were involved.  So she came to a place where she
> > knew she was always welcome no matter how dishonestly or idiotically
> > she behaved, as long as they remained her friends.
>
> > And, by devoting almost all her time to attacking just one of their
> > adversaries, she is secure in the knowledge that she will always be on
> > familiar ground. That is important for someone like her, someone is in
> > a state of arrested adolescence emotionally and intellectually.

>
> > > poor, stupid heishman didn't realize that the same "reasoning" he used  
> > > to implicate obama and democrats actually implicated himself in the
> > > delaware prison guard crimes.
>
> > What a jerk you are, Keegan, pretending that by sarcastically showing
> > you how stupid your anti-Bush ravings were, he is actually adopting
> > your twisted logic.
>
> > > with people like ooopsy in the delaware prison system, it's easy to see
> > > why delaware is recognized as one of the nation most corrupt and
> > > troubled systems.
>
> > Is that why you keep calling him corrupt, because of the general
> > reputation of Delaware police departments?  You have nothing specific
> > to nail him on?
>
> > And where is this alleged "recognition" to be read about on the
> > internet, besides the posts of such as you and "elizabeth" and
> > Humphrey and Gwen?
>
> > Peter Nyikos
>
> Gwen forgets about her own lack of humanity.
>
> When Papa Jack died, she was QUICK to post this.
>
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> On 08 Nov 2004 02:08:49 GMT, youngopini...@aol.com (J Young) wrote:
>
>
>
> >>From: Patrick Lee Humphrey patr...@io.com
> >>Date: 11/7/2004 8:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >>Message-id: <szk8y9djgk2....@fnord.io.com>
>
> >>"Johnny" <wxpprofessio...@msn.com> writes:
>
> >>>My condolences.
> >>>Are you serious?
>
> >>Serious, and for all his warts, Jackson at least wasn't the nutter *you* are.
> >>Take the hint.
>
> >>--
> >>  Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com)  Houston, Texas
>
> >He was a wise man.
>
> He was ignorant and had absolutely no consideration for some people's
> rights. He'd have had no compunction to prevent
> me from deciding what's best for my family -- he *said* a lot in here
> which was indicative of that. He was a product of his time -- and for
> all it's worth, maybe there was a lesson in this for him.

This was kind, in comparison to many other opinions of the deceased in
his living, I have expressed. Nothing I've written in this post was
outside of my honest opinion of his complete lack of concern for women
in my position.

It's no surprise that you'd use the death of the one you blindly
defend to attack your adversaries. This is not the first time you've
used this tactic.

Gwen Bennet

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On Nov 12, 1:04 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> > > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>
> > You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
> politicians you don't like.

My problem is that I don't like any politician who'd use our
veterans' service to my beloved America, for their own convenience -
and that's pretty much everybody. Unfortunately this is standard and
has been the case since such systems were designed. Somebody always
had to suffer.

What is more compelling about your rant is that you claimed to have
served in combat in Desert Storm, when in fact, according to your own
admission, that you have not. Who is an asshole, now?

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:43:06 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 1:23 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> > >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>
> > >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> > >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
> > >politicians you don't like.
>
> > Yeah!  So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American
> > soldiers!
>
> > >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
> > >insurance.
>
> > Stop lying, Asshole.  He quoted an actual study.
>
> No, he quoted a very biased piece that left out MUCH of the truth.
>
> How many of those Veterans served honorably and served their complete
> tour of duty?

You served HONORABLY by bailing out and claiming you fought <served>
in combat. You mother-fucking shitbag.

Gwen Bennet

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On Nov 12, 1:43 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 12, 1:39 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > >> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> > >> >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > >> >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>
> > >> >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > >> >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> > >> >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
> > >> >politicians you don't like.
>
> > >> Yeah!  So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American
> > >> soldiers!
>
> > >> >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
> > >> >insurance.
>
> > >> Stop lying, Asshole.  He quoted an actual study.
>
> > >No, he quoted a very biased piece
>
> > Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>
> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
> Benefits for the rest of their life.

IMO, you don't deserve anything.

Gwen Bennet

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:44:18 PM11/12/09
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You opted out of serving your country WHILE IN THE MILITARY, PUSSY.

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:11:09 PM11/12/09
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That's just more of your usual hatred. It's not facts.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:12:08 PM11/12/09
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You lied, Asshole. Now you're squirming.

Business as usual.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:47:30 AM11/13/09
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On Nov 12, 4:42 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 1:04 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> > > > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > > > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>
> > > You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > > others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> > But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
> > politicians you don't like.
>
> My problem is that I don't like any politician who'd use  our
> veterans' service to my beloved America,

Shove it, you are about as phoney as they come.
You don't care about the veterans and you certainly don't care about
this country.
Don't think you are fooling anyone.
You just are not that good.


for their own convenience -
> and that's pretty much everybody. Unfortunately this is standard and
> has been the case since such systems were designed. Somebody always
> had to suffer.
>
> What is more compelling about your rant is that you claimed to have
> served in combat in Desert Storm, when in fact, according to your own
> admission, that you have not. Who is an asshole, now?

I served in the USAF with the 436th MAW and I operated with a combat
support unit, flying troops and supplies out of Dover AFB to various
locations.
I'm proud of the small part I played and I'm equally as proud of the
service I provide to my state today, helping to protect and serve my
community.


Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:47:53 AM11/13/09
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> in combat. You mother-fucking shitbag.-

Eat shit and die, scumbag.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:48:17 AM11/13/09
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> You opted out of serving your country WHILE IN THE MILITARY, PUSSY.-

Scum bag, do you think you are impressing people by lying?


Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:48:39 AM11/13/09
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What lie, scumbag?

Spartakus

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Nov 13, 2009, 12:12:11 PM11/13/09
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Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > > > You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering
> > > > of others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.

[--FauxNy asshattery deleted--]

> Gwen forgets about her own lack of humanity.

You're such a fucking hypocrite, Bobby. Or have you forgotten how you
used the occasion of Papa Jack's death as a pretext for flaming other
talk.abortion regulars?

> When Papa Jack died, she was QUICK to post this.

Please point what what is inhumane about Gwen's perspective.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 1:18:33 PM11/13/09
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On Nov 13, 12:12 pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >  Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering
> > > > > of others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> [--FauxNy asshattery deleted--]
>
> > Gwen forgets about her own lack of humanity.
>
> You're such a fucking hypocrite, Bobby.

"yawn"
Stop pretending you are a saint.

 Or have you forgotten how you
> used the occasion of Papa Jack's death as a pretext for flaming other
> talk.abortion regulars?
>
> > When Papa Jack died, she was QUICK to post this.
>
> Please point what what is inhumane about Gwen's perspective.

And now you demonstrate your own lack of humanity.

> > this for him.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 4:49:25 PM11/13/09
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> IMO, you don't deserve anything.-

You have no say in the matter and you never will wench.
I served my country, and I am still serving my community today.
I can hold my head up with pride.
You on the other hand, have nothing to show except your own hatred
towards others.
The only reason you and your friends post in alt.abortion is because
you and a few others have taken over the newsgroup and allow each
other to get away with the hatred you spew. Any other newsgroup, you
would be tossed out.

IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:08:12 PM11/13/09
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How do you think THAT would happen, Bipolar Bob?
Do tell us all how one is "tossed out" of Usenet.
Go ahead and reconcile what you think is possible
with how you haven't been "tossed out" of
alt.abortion, since it's been "taken over" so
effectively.

You and Nyikos - brothers in cretinism. Did you
nail yourself to that cross or did you get his help?

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:24:31 PM11/13/09
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Your behavior wouldn't be accepted in most other newsgroups Paranoid
Adam.
That's why you and a few others have commandeered alt.abortion. You
support each other and your behaviors.


> Do tell us all how one is "tossed out" of Usenet.

not accepted, you would be jumped on and ridiculed for your behavior.
You wouldn't get away with your behavior in adult newsgroups, that you
get away with in here Paranoid Adam.

I am involved in at least six different newsgroups. Don't try to find
me, you will not be able to. This is the only one that I've seen
where it's been taken over by wackos. Yes, you are a wack job.

IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:36:25 PM11/13/09
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Ah, so you were lying when you said people could
be "tossed out", just as I suspected. The idea
that you think there's something stopping people
from "getting away" with anything that isn't
actually illegal on Usenet is absolutely farcical.
You're almost as bad at this as Nyikos is.

>
> I am involved in at least six different newsgroups. Don't try to find
> me, you will not be able to. This is the only one that I've seen
> where it's been taken over by wackos. Yes, you are a wack job.

There's that "taken over" paranoia again. Don't
worry, though - I already know some of the other
handles you like to post under.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 5:45:36 PM11/13/09
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Is this all you have to do all day? Like I said, you are a wack job.

The idea
> that you think there's something stopping people
> from "getting away" with anything that isn't
> actually illegal on Usenet is absolutely farcical.
> You're almost as bad at this as Nyikos is.
>
>
>
> > I am involved in at least six different newsgroups. Don't try to find
> > me, you will not be able to.  This is the only one that I've seen
> > where it's been taken over by wackos.  Yes, you are a wack job.
>
> There's that "taken over" paranoia again. Don't
> worry, though - I already know some of the other
> handles you like to post under.

No, not hardly. But you can guess. You're not that smart Paranoid
Adam.
Since you have no life, go for it. See what you can find.

Run along now


IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 6:00:58 PM11/13/09
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It seems to me that you're doing, right around
this time, exactly what I'm doing.

Makes you a wack job by your own accusation, I
suppose - a fact that will catch most people in
the group completely NOT by surprise.

>
> The idea
>> that you think there's something stopping people
>> from "getting away" with anything that isn't
>> actually illegal on Usenet is absolutely farcical.
>> You're almost as bad at this as Nyikos is.

And of course, it's not hard to know *why* you're
suddenly picking up on this ridiculous assertion
that Nyikos made previously. It's not terribly
hard to read a CC field, you know.

>>
>>
>>
>>> I am involved in at least six different newsgroups. Don't try to find
>>> me, you will not be able to. This is the only one that I've seen
>>> where it's been taken over by wackos. Yes, you are a wack job.
>> There's that "taken over" paranoia again. Don't
>> worry, though - I already know some of the other
>> handles you like to post under.
>
> No, not hardly. But you can guess. You're not that smart Paranoid
> Adam.
> Since you have no life, go for it. See what you can find.

Go for what? What makes you think I feel the need
to do anything with that knowledge?

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 6:06:24 PM11/13/09
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Paranoid Adam,

I know that the numbers in here are like
liberal wackos 10 to intelligent and reasonable people 1
With odds like that, of course I expect the wack jobs like yourself to
say those things.
I'm proud that I stand alone in this newsgroup.
I'm proud that I can stand to any one of you wack jobs and basically
make you jump at my choosing and command.
I can pluck you like a string on a fiddle paranoid Adam.

It's just too easy.

You, like the other pack of wack jobs, need each other to feed off on.

>         Bertrand Russell- Hide quoted text -

IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 6:38:19 PM11/13/09
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No doubt you think that you're the 1, evidence
notwithstanding.
Thanks, I needed the laugh.

> With odds like that, of course I expect the wack jobs like yourself to
> say those things.
> I'm proud that I stand alone in this newsgroup.

No, you have company with Iben and the other
bigots. You're not as articulate as they are, but
you are just as limited.

> I'm proud that I can stand to any one of you wack jobs and basically
> make you jump at my choosing and command.
> I can pluck you like a string on a fiddle paranoid Adam.

It is quite amusing to me that you can say *that*,
yet you can't even muster any proof of what you
claim is my identity, that you have to lie about
my supposed "support" of things to cover your own
ignorance.

I don't respond to you because I think I might get
some intelligent discourse out of it, as it is a
proved fact that you just aren't capable of such a
thing. I post my replies because I enjoy watching
you lose control every single day, and then try to
mask that loss of control with lies.

>
> It's just too easy.

You really are easy, Bipolar Bob. I made you so
paranoid that you had to accuse me of being
someone who hasn't posted for years, just to try
to excuse your own abject failure to deal with the
facts. Then I took that paranoia and fed it back
to you, and it's still making you accuse me of
being someone I'm not.

Now THAT is being plucked like string, Bipolar
Bob; you got played. I don't think I've ever seen
anyone sucker themselves as badly and wholly as I
saw you.

elizabeth

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:14:34 PM11/13/09
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> You opted out of serving your country WHILE IN THE MILITARY, PUSSY.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, brave Chairborne fucktard . ... but be reasonable, he is just
the sort of person you don't want on the front lines for obvious
reasons, he would impair the effectiveness of his unit.

elizabeth

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:15:22 PM11/13/09
to
> community.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

There are women who have served in actual combat. You didn't.

Makes you less than a pussy, fatass combover lying sacklapping
fucktard.

elizabeth

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:16:36 PM11/13/09
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> Scum bag, do you think you are impressing people by lying?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, you don't impress anyone when you lie, which is pretty much all
the time. But lying about someone else and insisting they are lying
when the evidence shows otherwise, well, that's why you're such a
fucked up asslapping failed abortion.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:16:46 PM11/13/09
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Speak for yourself bigot.

You're not as articulate as they are, but
> you are just as limited.

The problem with you is, I am articulate and I am intelligent. You
know that, and that is a threat for you.
So to try to minimize it and to take attention away, you try to make
yourself appear as if you are more intelligent.
We both know you are not.

> > I'm proud that I can stand to any one of you wack jobs and basically
> > make you jump at my choosing and command.
> > I can pluck you like a string on a fiddle paranoid Adam.
>
> It is quite amusing to me that you can say *that*,
> yet you can't even muster any proof of what you
> claim is my identity, that you have to lie about
> my supposed "support" of things to cover your own
> ignorance.
>
> I don't respond to you because I think I might get
> some intelligent discourse out of it, as it is a
> proved fact that you just aren't capable of such a

> thing. I post my replies because I ...

You are childish and have no better things to do.

Osprey

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Did you serve in the military at all?

elizabeth

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:18:26 PM11/13/09
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> where it's been taken over by wackos.  Yes, you are a wack job.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Acceptance or nonacceptance of the others in a ng is a nonissue. You
might want to consider the reason that so many people think you're
full of shit is because you are indeed full of shit.

And from what I've seen, the other ng regs are pretty much in
agreement that you are indeed a lying, cockless fuckwit at best.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:20:26 PM11/13/09
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"yawn"

>
> And from what I've seen, the other ng regs are pretty much in
> agreement that you are indeed a lying, cockless fuckwit at best.

Well, we both know you have a vivid imagination and you are prone to
lie on a dime. You do not know the other newsgroups I go into, you
can not find my identity in any other newsgroups.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:23:50 PM11/13/09
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On Nov 13, 7:15 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Elizabeth has just said to ALL the veterans that unless you actually
served in combat, you are less than a pussy.
What a totally disrespectful thing to say to all the veterans in our
armed forces. But then again, you never had any respect for our
military to begin with.

I'm proud of my service to this country. At least I can say I served,
and I am still serving to this day.

You can not say that.

So, if I am less than a "pussy" beause I did not fight on the ground
with our infantry, man or woman; since you never served you are less
than me.

:o)

IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:32:24 PM11/13/09
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Oh dearie dearie dear. I think you might actually
believe that. It's absolutely not a wonder that
you haven't gotten any better at this over the years.

Should I be threatened by your inability to use
correct grammar and spelling - honestly, so much
for "articulate, just read any of your blathering
to know different; or by your inability to
acknowledge facts even when they're handed to you?


> So to try to minimize it and to take attention away, you try to make
> yourself appear as if you are more intelligent.
> We both know you are not.

Oh, we both know that I am. It's the reason for
some part of your paranoia and insecurity.

>
>
>
>>> I'm proud that I can stand to any one of you wack jobs and basically
>>> make you jump at my choosing and command.
>>> I can pluck you like a string on a fiddle paranoid Adam.
>> It is quite amusing to me that you can say *that*,
>> yet you can't even muster any proof of what you
>> claim is my identity, that you have to lie about
>> my supposed "support" of things to cover your own
>> ignorance.
>>
>> I don't respond to you because I think I might get
>> some intelligent discourse out of it, as it is a
>> proved fact that you just aren't capable of such a
>> thing. I post my replies because I ...
>
> You are childish and have no better things to do.

Bipolar Bob lets his tells betray him - everything
I wrote, that he had to delete, stands as true.

So use this as another opportunity to plump
yourself up, to fool yourself into thinking that
you could keep up with a sub-literate
fiftth-grader on your best day. We both know that
you'd have to work awfully hard to do so.

Osprey

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That is how I know I am a threat to you.
When you decide to join up with someone like James G. Keegan Jr., who
demonstrates that he doesn't have the ability to write better than a
third grade child; and you don't say anything about his lack of
writing skills. Then I know I am a threat when you have to try to say
something about my grammar and/or spelling which FAR exceeds anything
Keegan can produce even on his best day.

- honestly, so much
> for "articulate, just read any of your blathering
> to know different; or by your inability to
> acknowledge facts even when they're handed to you?
>
> > So to try to minimize it and to take attention away, you try to make
> > yourself appear as if you are more intelligent.
> > We both know you are not.
>
> Oh, we both know that I am.

Only in your drug induced mind.


It's the reason for
> some part of your paranoia and insecurity.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> I'm proud that I can stand to any one of you wack jobs and basically
> >>> make you jump at my choosing and command.
> >>> I can pluck you like a string on a fiddle paranoid Adam.
> >> It is quite amusing to me that you can say *that*,
> >> yet you can't even muster any proof of what you
> >> claim is my identity, that you have to lie about
> >> my supposed "support" of things to cover your own
> >> ignorance.
>
> >> I don't respond to you because I think I might get
> >> some intelligent discourse out of it, as it is a
> >> proved fact that you just aren't capable of such a
> >> thing. I post my replies because I ...
>
> > You are childish and have no better things to do.
>
> Bipolar Bob

Paranoid IAAH.

lets his tells betray him - everything
> I wrote, that he had to delete, stands as true.
>
> So use this as another opportunity to plump
> yourself up, to fool yourself into thinking that
> you could keep up with a sub-literate
> fiftth-grader on your best day. We both know that
> you'd have to work awfully hard to do so.
>
> --
> "I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
> is no God. I equally cannot
> prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
> may exist; so may the gods of
> Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
> no one of these hypotheses is
> more probable than any other: they lie outside the
> region of even probable
> knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
> consider any of them."

>         Bertrand Russell- Hide quoted text -
>

> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:59:01 PM11/13/09
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* Osprey wrote (and quite badly, too):

You realize that makes no sense whatsoever, I
hope. I'm not the grammar police, and we're not
talking about Keegan.
How sad are you, that you have to make those sorts
of irrelevant excuses for your lack of intellect?

You could only be a "threat" to me if I decided to
let you be one; and it's just never going to turn
out that way. I've had to correct you so many
times on easily-obtained facts that I just
couldn't credit you with even an average
intellect. The only "threat" I see from you is you
boring me with oft-repeated excuses and lies.

Luckily it's easy to just poke you with a
metaphorical stick to get you all riled up again.

>
>
>
> - honestly, so much
>> for "articulate, just read any of your blathering
>> to know different; or by your inability to
>> acknowledge facts even when they're handed to you?
>>
>>> So to try to minimize it and to take attention away, you try to make
>>> yourself appear as if you are more intelligent.
>>> We both know you are not.
>> Oh, we both know that I am.
>
> Only in your drug induced mind.

Yeah....that's the sort of inarticulate writing I
was talking about in my last post.

My mind isn't now, and never has been, "induced"
by drugs. You really need to learn how to use what
I presume is your first language.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/induce -
FYI. I believe you meant to say "addled"; I might
speculate that your confusion results from your
own addling drug use.

I'd say this particular malapropism (you'll need
to use a dictionary for that one!) is an easy
mistake to make, but you know, it's actually not.
Those two words don't mean the same thing at all.

Now, after all this, do you really think you have
any credible claim to make about being smarter? Be
honest, little man, as foreign a thing as that is
for you.

elizabeth

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:15:25 PM11/13/09
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> Did you serve in the military at all?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Again, all personal information about me is handled on a need to know
basis.
Too bad you're too fucking stupid not to realize that when you bring
personal stuff and exaggerate it, you can and will be called on it
eventually. We are talking about YOUR lie about YOUR services, fatass.

elizabeth

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:16:20 PM11/13/09
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> :o)- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

No, I'm saying you're less than a pussy for being chairborne, lying
that you were a combat soldier, when in fact WOMEN are more combat
experienced than you are.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:42:50 PM11/13/09
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> You realize ...

That you are a hypocrite. Yes Paranoid IAAH, I had realized that a
long time ago.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:43:52 PM11/13/09
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So you never served at all. Clue Wench, I already knew that.
So don't talk to me about the military unless you served yourself.
You don't need to know anything about me either, you don't know that
much as it is.
All you can do is lie and make things up.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:48:40 PM11/13/09
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I never said I was a combat soldier wench.
And yes, you did just insult every single man and woman who is serving
or has served.
I am not surprised though, you have a true hatred towards anyone who
actually works.

Clue wench, you don't know what I did in the military other than some
very basic information I told you.

I served.
USAF
1983 to 1994
436th MAW/OMS
C-5 Crew Chief
I was also part of the recovery teams for the Air Crash that was
carrying some of our 101st Airborne team in Newfoundland and the
U.S.S. Iowa disaster.
There were numerous other duties I did as well, some you a're not
entitled to know anything about.

Desert Storm
436th MAW/OMS, I was mobilized as well. Served with our combat
support section.


Your service?

Oh yea, you could not serve.


IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 8:52:45 PM11/13/09
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My, you flamed out just a little earlier than
usual. Elizabeth must be getting to you.

By the by, just as with "induced", you need to
look up what "hypocrite" actually means. It
*doesn't* mean that I have to point out everybody
else's lack of grammar prowess and literacy when I
point out yours.

I have a doubt, however; I doubt very much that
you will take this opportunity to expand your
knowledge.

Osprey

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:09:00 PM11/13/09
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Tell you what Paranoid IAAH,
you ask me tomorrow how much your silly little opinion means to me.
But give it some time, I'll be enjoying a nice day up in the mountains
with my family tomorrow. You can ask me how much thought I gave to
your silly little opinion.

I have no doubt you will be sitting at your keyboard and staring at
your monitor waiting for me to post something.

IAAH

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:24:36 PM11/13/09
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Well, you've certainly shown that it means enough
that you'll to go to a whole lot of trouble trying
to make yourself look a little smarter than we
both know you are.

It didn't work. You don't look any smarter.

> But give it some time, I'll be enjoying a nice day up in the mountains
> with my family tomorrow. You can ask me how much thought I gave to
> your silly little opinion.

You make it sound like you actually think I care.
How needy of you.
I take it that you won't seize this opportunity to
improve your literacy?

>
> I have no doubt you will be sitting at your keyboard and staring at
> your monitor waiting for me to post something.
>

Considering how fast you've been barking at my
posts tonight, I find your attempted dig quite
amusing.

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:37:02 PM11/13/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:47:30 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:42?pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 1:04?am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 11, 4:17?pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > On Nov 11, 2:12?pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. ?Why not

>> > > > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>>
>> > > > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>>
>> > > You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> > > others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>>
>> > But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>> > politicians you don't like.
>>
>> My problem is that I don't like any politician who'd use ?our

>> veterans' service to my beloved America,
>
> Shove it, you are about as phoney as they come.
> You don't care about the veterans and you certainly don't care about
> this country.

You stil can't read minds (yours included), Oopsey. FAIL.

> Don't think you are fooling anyone.
> You just are not that good.

You goddamned sure aren't, indeed, from what I've seen over your reign of
error.

>> for their own convenience -
>> and that's pretty much everybody. Unfortunately this is standard and
>> has been the case since such systems were designed. Somebody always
>> had to suffer.
>>
>> What is more compelling about your rant is that you claimed to have
>> served in combat in Desert Storm, when in fact, according to your own
>> admission, that you have not. Who is an asshole, now?
>
> I served in the USAF with the 436th MAW and I operated with a combat
> support unit, flying troops and supplies out of Dover AFB to various
> locations. I'm proud of the small part I played and I'm equally as proud
> of the service I provide to my state today, helping to protect and serve
> my community.

...and you were stupid enough to try and claim you had served in combat.
That didn't impress the audience very much, if at all.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 5, San Antonio 2 (November 7)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 13 at Lake Erie, 6:35

The Chief Instigator

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:47:53 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:43?pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 1:23?am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 12, 1:20?am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>>
>> > > Osprey ?<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >On Nov 11, 4:17?pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> On Nov 11, 2:12?pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. ?Why not
>> > > >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>>
>> > > >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>>
>> > > >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> > > >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>>
>> > > >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>> > > >politicians you don't like.
>>
>> > > Yeah! ?So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American

>> > > soldiers!
>>
>> > > >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>> > > >insurance.
>>
>> > > Stop lying, Asshole. ?He quoted an actual study.
>>
>> > No, he quoted a very biased piece that left out MUCH of the truth.
>>
>> > How many of those Veterans served honorably and served their complete
>> > tour of duty?
>>
>> You served HONORABLY by bailing out and claiming you fought <served>
>> in combat. You mother-fucking shitbag.-
>
> Eat shit and die, scumbag.

You'll do that, whether you understand or not.

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:08:39 PM11/13/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:49:25 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:43?pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 1:43?am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> > On Nov 12, 1:39?am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>> > > Osprey ?<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >On Nov 12, 1:20?am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> > > >> Osprey ?<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >On Nov 11, 4:17?pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> On Nov 11, 2:12?pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > >> >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. ?Why not
>> > > >> >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>>
>> > > >> >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>>
>> > > >> >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> > > >> >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>>
>> > > >> >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>> > > >> >politicians you don't like.
>>
>> > > >> Yeah! ?So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American
>> > > >> soldiers!
>>
>> > > >> >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>> > > >> >insurance.
>>
>> > > >> Stop lying, Asshole. ?He quoted an actual study.
>>
>> > > >No, he quoted a very biased piece
>>
>> > > Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>>
>> > It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>> > their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>> > Benefits for the rest of their life.
>>
>> IMO, you don't deserve anything.-
>
> You have no say in the matter and you never will wench.
> I served my country, and I am still serving my community today.
> I can hold my head up with pride.
> You on the other hand, have nothing to show except your own hatred
> towards others.
> The only reason you and your friends post in alt.abortion is because
> you and a few others have taken over the newsgroup and allow each
> other to get away with the hatred you spew. Any other newsgroup, you
> would be tossed out.

Thanks for confirming that you're not just obnoxiously stupid, you're
verging on being a bit delusional. You'll never get a grasp of how Usenet
is organized...so, who owns this newsgroup? You'll never believe the actual
truth. Have fun trying to suss it.

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:09:45 PM11/13/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:08:12 -0500, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
> * Osprey wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 4:43 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 12, 1:43 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 1:39 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>> Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>> Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. Why not

>>>>>>>>>> blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>>>>>>>>> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>>>>>>>>> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>>>>>>>> But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>>>>>>>> politicians you don't like.
>>>>>>> Yeah! So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American

>>>>>>> soldiers!
>>>>>>>> i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>>>>>>>> insurance.
>>>>>>> Stop lying, Asshole. He quoted an actual study.

>>>>>> No, he quoted a very biased piece
>>>>> Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>>>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>>>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>>>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
>>> IMO, you don't deserve anything.-
>>
>> You have no say in the matter and you never will wench.
>> I served my country, and I am still serving my community today.
>> I can hold my head up with pride.
>> You on the other hand, have nothing to show except your own hatred
>> towards others.
>> The only reason you and your friends post in alt.abortion is because
>> you and a few others have taken over the newsgroup and allow each
>> other to get away with the hatred you spew. Any other newsgroup, you
>> would be tossed out.
>>
>
> How do you think THAT would happen, Bipolar Bob?
> Do tell us all how one is "tossed out" of Usenet.
> Go ahead and reconcile what you think is possible
> with how you haven't been "tossed out" of
> alt.abortion, since it's been "taken over" so
> effectively.
>
> You and Nyikos - brothers in cretinism. Did you
> nail yourself to that cross or did you get his help?

You're asking someone who has no idea of the vacuum between his ears. ;-)

--
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Nov 13, 2009, 10:15:44 PM11/13/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:24:31 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 5:08?pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> * Osprey wrote:
>> > On Nov 12, 4:43 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Nov 12, 1:43 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> On Nov 12, 1:39 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>> Osprey ?<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>>>> Osprey ?<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. ?Why not

>> >>>>>>>>> blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>> >>>>>>>> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> >>>>>>>> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>> >>>>>>> But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>> >>>>>>> politicians you don't like.
>> >>>>>> Yeah! ?So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American

>> >>>>>> soldiers!
>> >>>>>>> i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>> >>>>>>> insurance.
>> >>>>>> Stop lying, Asshole. ?He quoted an actual study.

>> >>>>> No, he quoted a very biased piece
>> >>>> Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>> >>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>> >>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>> >>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
>> >> IMO, you don't deserve anything.-
>>
>> > You have no say in the matter and you never will wench.
>> > I served my country, and I am still serving my community today.
>> > I can hold my head up with pride.
>> > You on the other hand, have nothing to show except your own hatred
>> > towards others.
>> > The only reason you and your friends post in alt.abortion is because
>> > you and a few others have taken over the newsgroup and allow each
>> > other to get away with the hatred you spew. ?Any other newsgroup, you

>> > would be tossed out.
>>
>> How do you think THAT would happen, Bipolar Bob?
>
> Your behavior wouldn't be accepted in most other newsgroups Paranoid
> Adam.
> That's why you and a few others have commandeered alt.abortion. You
> support each other and your behaviors.
>
>
>> Do tell us all how one is "tossed out" of Usenet.
>
> not accepted, you would be jumped on and ridiculed for your behavior.
> You wouldn't get away with your behavior in adult newsgroups, that you
> get away with in here Paranoid Adam.

You continually display that you have no idea at all of how Usenet is
organized. (Free clue: if the letters before the first period of the
newsgroup name are "alt", there are no rules, and no one owns such a
newsgroup. That means you don't get any special privileges, just like the
rest of us.)

> I am involved in at least six different newsgroups. Don't try to find

> me, you will not be able to. This is the only one that I've seen
> where it's been taken over by wackos. Yes, you are a wack job.

You're infatuated with your innate stupidity. You've only been displaying
that more often than not over your last decade of errors.

The Chief Instigator

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:06:24 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 6:00?pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> * Osprey wrote:
>> > On Nov 13, 5:36 pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> >> * Osprey wrote:
>> >> Ah, so you were lying when you said people could
>> >> be "tossed out", just as I suspected.
>>
>> > Is this all you have to do all day? ?Like I said, you are a wack job.

>>
>> It seems to me that you're doing, right around
>> this time, exactly what I'm doing.
>>
>> Makes you a wack job by your own accusation, I
>> suppose - a fact that will catch most people in
>> the group completely NOT by surprise.
>
> Paranoid Adam,
>
> I know that the numbers in here are like

:s/I know/I want my fantasy to be regarded as truthful, but couldn't prove
it to save my life. (That's the translation of your version.)

> liberal wackos 10 to intelligent and reasonable people 1

> With odds like that, of course I expect the wack jobs like yourself to
> say those things.
> I'm proud that I stand alone in this newsgroup.

> I'm proud that I can stand to any one of you wack jobs and basically
> make you jump at my choosing and command.
> I can pluck you like a string on a fiddle paranoid Adam.


You're one moronic slob, kid...Attila the Hun was to the left of me, despite
being fifteen centuries or so before my time. I've never been a liberal, no
matter how you tapdance around it.

> It's just too easy.
>

> You, like the other pack of wack jobs, need each other to feed off on.

You really should quit drinking, if you believe _that_.

[the rest of your mumblings given a game misconduct]

The Chief Instigator

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:36:21 PM11/13/09
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:20:26 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 13, 7:18?pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 13, 2:24?pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 13, 5:08?pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>>
>> > > * Osprey wrote:
>> > > > On Nov 12, 4:43 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> On Nov 12, 1:43 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > >>> On Nov 12, 1:39 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> > > >>>> Osprey ?<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>>> On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> > > >>>>>> Osprey ?<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>> On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>>> After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11. ?Why not

>> > > >>>>>>>>> blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>> > > >>>>>>>>> Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>> > > >>>>>>>> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
>> > > >>>>>>>> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>> > > >>>>>>> But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
>> > > >>>>>>> politicians you don't like.
>> > > >>>>>> Yeah! ?So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American

>> > > >>>>>> soldiers!
>> > > >>>>>>> i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
>> > > >>>>>>> insurance.
>> > > >>>>>> Stop lying, Asshole. ?He quoted an actual study.

>> > > >>>>> No, he quoted a very biased piece
>> > > >>>> Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>> > > >>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>> > > >>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>> > > >>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
>> > > >> IMO, you don't deserve anything.-
>>
>> > > > You have no say in the matter and you never will wench.
>> > > > I served my country, and I am still serving my community today.
>> > > > I can hold my head up with pride.
>> > > > You on the other hand, have nothing to show except your own hatred
>> > > > towards others.
>> > > > The only reason you and your friends post in alt.abortion is because
>> > > > you and a few others have taken over the newsgroup and allow each
>> > > > other to get away with the hatred you spew. ?Any other newsgroup, you

>> > > > would be tossed out.
>>
>> > > How do you think THAT would happen, Bipolar Bob?
>>
>> > Your behavior wouldn't be accepted in most other newsgroups Paranoid
>> > Adam.
>> > That's why you and a few others have commandeered alt.abortion. You
>> > support each other and your behaviors.
>>
>> > > Do tell us all how one is "tossed out" of Usenet.
>>
>> > not accepted, you would be jumped on and ridiculed for your behavior.
>> > You wouldn't get away with your behavior in adult newsgroups, that you
>> > get away with in here Paranoid Adam.
>>
>> > I am involved in at least six different newsgroups. Don't try to find
>> > me, you will not be able to. ?This is the only one that I've seen
>> > where it's been taken over by wackos. ?Yes, you are a wack job.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Acceptance or nonacceptance of the others in a ng is a nonissue. ?You

>> might want to consider the reason that so many people think you're
>> full of shit is because you are indeed full of shit.
>
> "yawn"
>
>>
>> And from what I've seen, the other ng regs are pretty much in
>> agreement that you are indeed a lying, cockless fuckwit at best.
>
> Well, we both know you have a vivid imagination and you are prone to
> lie on a dime. You do not know the other newsgroups I go into, you
> can not find my identity in any other newsgroups.

So? Most of the sane and intelligent people can take one look at your
idiocy and your daily displayed lack of literacy and reach the same
conclusion: you're the mental slowpoke who is qualified for not much other
than being the target in target practice. You made that choice, so you get
to enjoy the consequences.

Ray Fischer

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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 12, 10:12�pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Osprey �<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 12, 12:21�pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> Osprey �<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 12, 10:11�am, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> >> >> On 11/12/09 6:53 AM, * Osprey wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Nov 12, 2:33 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>> >> >> >> Osprey �<Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
>> >> >> >>> their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
>> >> >> >>> Benefits for the rest of their life.
>> >> >> >> � � While many Americans believe that all veterans can get care from
>> >> >> >> � � the VA, even combat veterans may not be able to obtain VA care,
>> >> >> >> � � Woolhandler said. As a rule, VA facilities provide care for any
>> >> >> >> � � veteran who is disabled by a condition connected to his or her
>> >> >> >> � � military service and care for specific medical conditions acquired
>> >> >> >> � � during military service.
>>
>> >> >> > Below are some of the basic factors that go into determining your
>> >> >> > eligibility for health benefits:
>>
>> >> >> > �Eligibility for most veterans� health care benefits is based solely
>> >> >> > on active military service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or
>> >> >> > Coast Guard (or Merchant Marines during WW II), and discharged under
>> >> >> > other than dishonorable conditions.
>> >> >> > �Reservists and National Guard members who were called to active duty
>> >> >> > by a Federal Executive Order may qualify for VA health care benefits.
>> >> >> > Returning service members, including Reservists and National Guard
>> >> >> > members who served on active duty in a theater of combat operations
>> >> >> > have special eligibility for hospital care, medical services, and
>> >> >> > nursing home care for five years following discharge from active
>> >> >> > duty.
>> >> >> > �Health Care eligibility is not just for those who served in combat.
>> >> >> > �Other groups may be eligible for some health benefits.
>> >> >> > �Veteran�s health care is not just for service-connected injuries or
>> >> >> > medical conditions.
>> >> >> > �Veteran�s health care facilities are not just for men only. VA offers
>> >> >> > full-service health care to women veterans.
>>
>> >> >> >http://www4.va.gov/healtheligibility/
>>
>> >> >> > So take note: This alledged study, is lying.
>>
>> >> >> Funny, if you do the 2-question eligibility survey
>> >> >> *on that site* about qualifying for VA Health
>> >> >> Care, and answer "yes" to "You served in the
>> >> >> active military, naval, or air service and were
>> >> >> honorably discharged or released" it says "You
>> >> >> probably qualify for VA Health Care. Qualification
>> >> >> may depend on your household income."
>>
>> >> >I can tell you right now, that people who served in the military,
>> >> >their full term, and received an honorable discharge are eligible for
>>
>> >> Asshole thinks that we should ignore the experts and believe him
>> >> instead, even when he has a long reputation of being a lying moron.
>>
>> >Aww, Socialist Fischer is showing his lack of patience.
>>
>> You lied, Asshole. �Now you're squirming.
>
>What lie, scumbag?

You really are one stupid asshole.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Osprey <Ospr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 13, 5:08�pm, IAAH <n...@email.exist> wrote:
>> Do tell us all how one is "tossed out" of Usenet.
>
>not accepted, you would be jumped on and ridiculed for your behavior.

Kind of like what happens to you.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Osprey

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Nov 14, 2009, 5:17:14 AM11/14/09
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My question was too hard for you?

Gwen Bennet

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On Nov 13, 10:48 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:44 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 12:52 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Nov 12, 12:20 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > > > Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >On Nov 12, 2:32 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > > > >> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >On Nov 12, 1:39 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > > > >> >> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> >On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >> >> On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not

> > > > >> >> >> >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>
> > > > >> >> >> >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > > > >> >> >> >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> > > > >> >> >> >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
> > > > >> >> >> >politicians you don't like.
>
> > > > >> >> >> Yeah!  So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American

> > > > >> >> >> soldiers!
>
> > > > >> >> >> >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
> > > > >> >> >> >insurance.
>
> > > > >> >> >> Stop lying, Asshole.  He quoted an actual study.

>
> > > > >> >> >No, he quoted a very biased piece
>
> > > > >> >> Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>
> > > > >> >It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
> > > > >> >their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
> > > > >> >Benefits for the rest of their life.
>
> > > > >>     Like other uninsured Americans, most uninsured vets are working
> > > > >>     people -- too poor to afford private coverage but not poor enough
> > > > >>     to qualify for Medicaid or means-tested VA care," said Dr. Steffie
> > > > >>     Woolhandler, a professor at Harvard Medical School.
>
> > > > >And if they are U.S. citizens who have served a complete term in
> > > > >military service and received an honorable discharge, they
> > > > >automatically have health insurance through the VA for the rest of his
>
> > > > Why would anyone believe a stupid, lying asshole like you?
>
> > > > You don't know shit.
>
> > > > >>     The Harvard group analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau's
> > > > >>     March 2009 Current Population Survey, which surveyed Americans
> > > > >>     about their insurance coverage and veteran status, and found that
> > > > >>     1,461,615 veterans between the ages of 18 and 64 were uninsured in
> > > > >>     2008. Veterans were only classified as uninsured if they neither
> > > > >>     had health insurance nor received ongoing care at Veterans Health
> > > > >>     Administration (VA) hospitals or clinics.
>
> > > > >> >Liars like you want to leave that out.
>
> > > > >> Dumbshit assholes like you don't even realize how ignorant, stupid,
> > > > >> and uneducated you are.
>
> > > > >Being that you never served in the military and you obviously don't
>
> > > > You don't work for the VA, Asshole.
>
> > > Being that you never served this country, due to your cowardness...
>
> > You opted out of serving your country WHILE IN THE MILITARY, PUSSY.-
>
> Scum bag,

Who lied about SERVING IN COMBAT, in Desert Storm?

> do you think you are impressing people by lying?

You're not impressing anybody with your lies about the people about
whom you're lying,

Gwen Bennet

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On Nov 13, 7:14 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > You opted out of serving your country WHILE IN THE MILITARY, PUSSY.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah, brave Chairborne fucktard . ... but be reasonable, he is just
> the sort of person you don't want on the front lines for obvious
> reasons, he would impair the effectiveness of his unit.

This is why he wound up working for the dept. of corrections (in his
state); he's perfect for the job: he's soulless, mindless and not even
human - these are requisite characteristics to hold such a meaningless
post.

Gwen Bennet

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On Nov 13, 4:49 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 12, 4:43 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 1:43 am, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 12, 1:39 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > > > Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >On Nov 12, 1:20 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > > > >> Osprey  <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >On Nov 11, 4:17 pm, Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> On Nov 11, 2:12 pm, Osprey <Ospre...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> > After all, the liberals blamed Bush for not stopping 9/11.  Why not
> > > > >> >> > blame Obama for not stopping the shooting at Fort Hood?
>
> > > > >> >> > Yes, it's sarcasm...but the point has been made.
>
> > > > >> >> You're an unconscionable assfuck. How dare you use the suffering of
> > > > >> >> others for pot shots against your newsgroup adversaries.
>
> > > > >> >But yet, assholes like you can use the vets for your pot shots against
> > > > >> >politicians you don't like.
>
> > > > >> Yeah!  So what if Bush cause the deaths of thousands of American
> > > > >> soldiers!
>
> > > > >> >i.e.: Keegan's latest use of the veterans he claimed don't have health
> > > > >> >insurance.
>
> > > > >> Stop lying, Asshole.  He quoted an actual study.
>
> > > > >No, he quoted a very biased piece
>
> > > > Any facts which Asshole doesn't like is "biased".
>
> > > It's a fact: Any U.S. citizen who served in the U.S. Military, served
> > > their full term, and served honorably are entitled to VA Health
> > > Benefits for the rest of their life.
>
> > IMO, you don't deserve anything.-
>
> You have no say in the matter

I can hold and express any opinion I wish.

>and you never will wench.
> I served my country, and I am still serving my community today.

You conveyed "respect" fpr your fellow military men by claiming you
served in combat when, in fact, you hadn't (by your own admission).
Only a low-life, scumbag, piece of swine feces ex-prison clerk could
do this to another, more deserving human being.

> I can hold my head up with pride.

...in a sewer, perhaps.

> You on the other hand, have nothing to show except ...

That will be up to TUFTS University to decide.

Have a nice day...

elizabeth

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Nov 14, 2009, 1:22:33 PM11/14/09
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You really do have problems with comprehension.

> > Again, all personal information about me is handled on a need to know
> > basis.

Hmmm . ...

> So you never served at all.

I didn't say that, did I?

> Clue Wench, I already knew that.

(snicker)

> So don't talk to me about the military unless you served yourself.

(giggle)

> You don't need to know anything about me either, you don't know that
> much as it is.

> All you can do is lie and make things up.- Hide quoted text -

Stop insisting everyone else is like you.

elizabeth

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Nov 14, 2009, 1:24:23 PM11/14/09
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cackle~cackle

> My, you flamed out just a little earlier than
> usual. Elizabeth must be getting to you.

Well, it's clear he hasn't gotten much, if any, information about my
actual background, and I'm not going to provide him with any
statements of my own, because I don't give out personal info in ngs.

> By the by, just as with "induced", you need to
> look up what "hypocrite" actually means. It
> *doesn't* mean that I have to point out everybody
> else's lack of grammar prowess and literacy when I
> point out yours.
>
> I have a doubt, however; I doubt very much that
> you will take this opportunity to expand your
> knowledge.

Oopsey has made projection into his life's work.

> --
> "I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
> is no God. I equally cannot
> prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
> may exist; so may the gods of
> Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
> no one of these hypotheses is
> more probable than any other: they lie outside the
> region of even probable
> knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
> consider any of them."

elizabeth

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Nov 14, 2009, 1:26:00 PM11/14/09
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There he goes again . ..

> > But give it some time, I'll be enjoying a nice day up in the mountains
> > with my family tomorrow.  You can ask me how much thought I gave to
> > your silly little opinion.
>
> You make it sound like you actually think I care.
> How needy of you.

He keeps giving out personal information, then screams like a girl
when anyone uses that information against him . ..

> I take it that you won't seize this opportunity to
> improve your literacy?
>

Only if you can arrange a brain transplant.


>
> > I have no doubt you will be sitting at your keyboard and staring at
> > your monitor waiting for me to post something.
>
> Considering how fast you've been barking at my
> posts tonight, I find your attempted dig quite
> amusing.
>
> --
> "I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
> is no God. I equally cannot
> prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
> may exist; so may the gods of
> Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
> no one of these hypotheses is
> more probable than any other: they lie outside the
> region of even probable
> knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
> consider any of them."

IAAH

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I believe he's already had one. The surgeon must
have had a spare rutabaga available.

Just think how many better uses it could have had.

IAAH

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Like all projections, he lacks substance and depth.

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