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ABORTION IS BABY MURDER

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Sean Monaghan

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Mar 25, 2006, 1:14:59 AM3/25/06
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If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
a living human being and you can't kill that.

PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

Christopher A. Lee

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Mar 25, 2006, 1:31:39 AM3/25/06
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On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
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>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>a living human being and you can't kill that.

Does the word "potential" not exist on your planet,moron?

>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

NOBODY IS DOING THAT, MORON!!!

Ray Fischer

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Mar 25, 2006, 1:34:18 AM3/25/06
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Sean Monaghan <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>a living human being and you can't kill that.

Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
one forced to keep it alive.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Sanity's Little Helper

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Mar 25, 2006, 2:03:22 AM3/25/06
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Feel better for that? Gooood. Now, roll your sleeve up, there's a good
patient.....

kathryn

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Mar 25, 2006, 2:09:37 AM3/25/06
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"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder.
Of course

A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.

Except it's not, it;s a bunch of cells that might become a baby. Yeah I
know....science is complicated.

When you get a womb you can consider what you want to do when you get
pregnant. Otherwise it's none of your business.


>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>

End the war in Iraq?


DKat

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Mar 25, 2006, 2:14:55 AM3/25/06
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"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!


When you folk start taking care of the children that are born, when you
start working to see that children are educated and start making birth
control available to all so we don't have unwanted pregnancies then MAYBE
YOU WILL BE LISTENED TO. Cause right now everything you do seems to say
that all you want is for more females (women and children) to get pregnant
so that they can have abortions for you to complain about.


Reasoned Insanity

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Mar 25, 2006, 2:48:15 AM3/25/06
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"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>


The only science that the liberals have to support them is decades old, but
it allows them to dehumanize the unborn just as hitler did to the jews.


CCJ

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Mar 25, 2006, 2:53:14 AM3/25/06
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Reasoned Insanity wrote:

>The only science that the liberals have to support them is decades old, but
>it allows them to dehumanize the unborn just as hitler did to the jews.

Um, ok. What science do conservatives use? Oh, I forgot. Conservatives
don't believe in science, only the "Wurd of Gawd."

daniekk

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Mar 25, 2006, 4:01:25 AM3/25/06
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Sean,

Are you a man or a woman?? I disagreed with abortion when i was a
teenager in Catholic high school...3 years after graduation i was raped
and became pregnant...there are circumstances involved in a womens
choice that you can never understand until you have to make that
decision

dawncq

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Mar 25, 2006, 4:38:35 AM3/25/06
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sean f u! i bet you a (rubupbikan), from u.s.a south a good chance!? if
you love little babies SO much why you want cut programs that help
them! oh and by cutting them you make preggos want to abort as oppsed
to having it. ooooooo i forgot you want them choose adoption for racist
infertile white-folk, thus explains why theres a waiting list for white
babies and minorities babies waiting for adoption(cause it damn well
better be white)! women are not breeders for you southern inbreed
relegious fanatic fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
take your bibles and put in ass

dawncq

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Mar 25, 2006, 4:44:15 AM3/25/06
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Sean Monaghan wrote:
> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!! this is what you good religious folk support and by re-electing duuubbbyyyyyya you proved it. take your i love babies bs and shove with your bible heres what you fools do, f what u clowns say! heres a video #1 in europe by james blunt watch it and see your all hippoc's nhttp://nobravery.cf.huffingtonpost.com

-LANCE VAN NESS -Ä$$ xoĂ-ĽLxSŁĆ§RĐ

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"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

Republican Pro-Lifers = Those who bomb Iraqi kids and then yell about an
undeveloped lump of cells without the intelligence of a squid.


-LANCE VAN NESS -Ä$$ xoĂ-ĽLxSŁĆ§RĐ

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If Shawan was a woman he'd know. Then again, he isn't even human.


dawncq

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Mar 25, 2006, 4:47:30 AM3/25/06
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Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!

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Mar 25, 2006, 5:36:48 AM3/25/06
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On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800,
"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:


> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder.

True. But that has NOTHING to do with abortion, so you are
as OFF-topic with that, vis-a-vis the moronic subject header, above,
as you were when you so STUPIDLY cross-posted your cretinism to
a group called, alt.sports.hockey.nhl.ott-senators .

Obviously, you -- like MOST loons who are ignorant, hateful, and
bigoted enough to be Anti-Choicers/RRR cultists, have very LITTLE
in the way of a working brain.

THANKS for **reminding** society of that! The faster society's
consciousness of that fact is raised, the sooner it will REJECT your
asinine agendas and relegate them to extinction, to join the equally-
moronic one of the segregationists.

> A baby fetus is a living human being...

There 's no such thing as a "baby fetus." Unless you are referring in
such a weird manner to a reproductive-process entity which just
*recently* had gone from the embryonic stage to the fetal stage

And ALL **human beings** are PEOPLE. And ALL *people* have
been BORN.

Let's abbreviate the term, "reproductive-process entity: as "RPE."

Then...

RPE : human being :: cookie dough : cookie

<remaining idiocy flushed>

-- Craig Chilton <xanad...@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.

Richo

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Mar 25, 2006, 6:50:02 AM3/25/06
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Sean Monaghan wrote:
> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder.

Not always.
If you are soldier in war and you kill one of the enemy then you have
not committed muder.
If you kill someone in self defence you are

> A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>

A fetus is living human tissue - so is a mole growing on your neck.
.
A baby is a living human being that is granted most of the rights and
protections given to citizens (adults have more rights and
responsibilities)

> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

"Our babies"??
If these babies are born are you prepared to give them 24hour a day
care - feed them and care for them till they are legally adults?
No?
I didnt think so.

Mark.

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newsguy

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:05:01 AM3/25/06
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Funny then you would think the bible would say a fetus is
life not property then.

Exo 21:
22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit
depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely
punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him;
and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

Note who is life and what is property.

If a fetus is a human being then rape is legal. If a fetus
has a right as a human being to be in a woman without
her consent, so does anyone.

james g. keegan jr.

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:06:58 AM3/25/06
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In article <1143267299....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder.

you need to learn the meaning of the word "murder" before you make a
fool of yourself again.

Bill Bradley

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:13:22 AM3/25/06
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On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
<sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

How many babies has our military killed in Iraq so far?

Are you working to help stop that slaughter?

Christopher A. Lee

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:13:42 AM3/25/06
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That's all you can do: lie.

newsguy

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:27:12 AM3/25/06
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Another Conservarant.

Oh let's see, conservatives are trying to null the 9th and
14th Amendments with a Marriage Ban Amendment that
will turn intersexual children into subhuman beings, but
rant about tissue being sucked out of a woman that does
not want that tissue growing in her without her consent.

Who does a XXY hermaphrodite legally marry if the only
legal marriage is one between a man and a woman?


The homosexual agenda
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/homosexualagenda/index.html

Robibnikoff

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:49:29 AM3/25/06
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"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

Please keep your dick in your pants.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
#1557


John Baker

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:56:05 AM3/25/06
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On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
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Funny, I don't see any of you rightard assholes lining up to adopt
these kids you keep insisting be born.


duke

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Mar 25, 2006, 7:56:08 AM3/25/06
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On 25 Mar 2006 06:34:18 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
>one forced to keep it alive.

No, that would be murder on her part.

duke, American-American
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Shawn Hirn

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Mar 25, 2006, 8:04:21 AM3/25/06
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> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.

Wrong, but you are one of many who prefer to avoid having facts color
your opinion. Abortion is no more murder than throwing away a piece of
metal prevents another car from being manufactured.

By the way, how many unwanted children do you help care for?

james g. keegan jr.

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Mar 25, 2006, 9:21:51 AM3/25/06
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In article <nefa22ta4q30cg7c9...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> On 25 Mar 2006 06:34:18 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
> >one forced to keep it alive.
>
> No, that would be murder on her part.

you need to learn the meaning of the word "murder" before you make a
fool of yourself again.

--sexkitten--

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Mar 25, 2006, 9:51:54 AM3/25/06
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Reasoned Insanity wrote:

<misspellings corrected>
The only science that the [theocrats] have to support them is
[centuries] old, but it allows them to dehumanize [women] just as hitler
did to the jews.

--
--sexkitten--
"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the
Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand
on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."
-Prof. Jamie Raskin

--sexkitten--

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Mar 25, 2006, 9:55:32 AM3/25/06
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If they stopped making fools of themselves, what would we do for
entertainment?

Nilofer

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Mar 25, 2006, 10:59:59 AM3/25/06
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I think birth control pills are the most effectice ways to prevent
pregnancy . why to go for abortion when you have ways before you to
control birth . After all killing in anyways is a crime . There are
many birth control pills and other ways also which you can adopt to
stop birth . Pl. go to your nearby health center and get yourself
informed .

--sexkitten--

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Mar 25, 2006, 11:09:36 AM3/25/06
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Here, let me "inform" you about failure rates:
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/1997/conceptbl.html

Peacenik

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Mar 25, 2006, 11:28:45 AM3/25/06
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"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder.

Yes.

> A baby fetus is a living human being

No.

> and you can't kill that.
>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

Fuck you.


robpar

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Mar 25, 2006, 11:35:15 AM3/25/06
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Yep he/she is a christian. A religion founded on lies, that hates
the truth with a blind passion.

Ray Fischer

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Mar 25, 2006, 12:07:36 PM3/25/06
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>>Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
>>one forced to keep it alive.
>
>>No, that would be murder on her part.

No, moron, it would not be, and once again you fail to understand that
you cannot simply expect your bald-faced lying to be true.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Mar 25, 2006, 12:09:10 PM3/25/06
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Nilofer <bub...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I think birth control pills are the most effectice ways to prevent
>pregnancy .

They're actually not the most effective and you can find out which is
the most effective without having to guess.

> why to go for abortion when you have ways before you to
>control birth .

Because birth control fails and because no contraceptive works after
you're already pregnant.

> After all killing in anyways is a crime .

What crime did you commit when you killed that spider?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Reasoned Insanity <mintc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is


>> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>
>> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>
>The only science that the liberals have to support them is decades old, but
>it allows them to dehumanize the unborn just as hitler did to the jews.

And so you resort to the very tactic you use to demonize others.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

james g. keegan jr.

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Mar 25, 2006, 12:28:19 PM3/25/06
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In article <1143298...@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>
> > In article <nefa22ta4q30cg7c9...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On 25 Mar 2006 06:34:18 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
> >>>one forced to keep it alive.
> >>
> >>No, that would be murder on her part.
> >
> >
> > you need to learn the meaning of the word "murder" before you make a
> > fool of yourself again.
>
> If they stopped making fools of themselves, what would we do for
> entertainment?

good point.

i wish they'd be more creative in making things up so deflating their
misrepresentations would be more interesting.

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Paul Anderson

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On 25 Mar 2006 07:59:59 -0800, "Nilofer" <bub...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I think birth control pills are the most effectice ways to prevent
>pregnancy .

Birth control pills are an unnatural messing with the woman's
hormones. Read the possible side effects, some are nasty. Pills are
not for everyone. Some people cannot take them.

IMO the most effective method of prevent pregnancy is a vasectomy --
also has the least side effects for the woman.

Julia

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What about Depoprovera . I heard that it is an effective birth control
drug .Depo-Provera Contraceptive Injection is given in the buttock or
upper arm to prevent pregnancy. It is more than 99 percent effective;
your chances of becoming pregnant during the first year of use are less
than 1 in 100.
My friend who is married two years back is on Depoprovera and still
she is in her honeymoon.

--sexkitten--

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Mar 25, 2006, 1:57:58 PM3/25/06
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james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> In article <1143298...@sp6iad.superfeed.net>,
> --sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <nefa22ta4q30cg7c9...@4ax.com>,
>>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 25 Mar 2006 06:34:18 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
>>>>>one forced to keep it alive.
>>>>
>>>>No, that would be murder on her part.
>>>
>>>
>>>you need to learn the meaning of the word "murder" before you make a
>>>fool of yourself again.
>>
>>If they stopped making fools of themselves, what would we do for
>>entertainment?
>
>
> good point.
>
> i wish they'd be more creative in making things up so deflating their
> misrepresentations would be more interesting.

Yeah, the "baby killer/ing" thing is hardly a challenge anymore.

--
--sexkitten--
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Epicurus

--sexkitten--

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Mar 25, 2006, 2:00:49 PM3/25/06
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Julia wrote:

Doen't always work. And I have the kid to prove it.

--
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people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong
will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they
misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is
lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty...

And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,
with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

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Johnny

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"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Sean Monaghan <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
> Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
> one forced to keep it alive.

Why do you think other men want to take care fo your babies?
LOL!!!!!!!
Why do scum think like you?
Why can't you take care of your own children and not expect other men to
take care of them for you?


Bill Bradley

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Mar 25, 2006, 2:23:48 PM3/25/06
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:49:29 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witc...@broomstick.com> wrote:

>> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>
>Please keep your dick in your pants.

Too late, Dick crawled his way onto the Regressive Party Presidential
campaign ticket back in 2000 & has been residing as V.P. ever since
;-) he's been spawning like a fly ever since, can't you tell by these
newsgroups how fertile he's been? ;-)

>--
>Robyn
>Resident Witchypoo
>Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
>#1557

You think you're an atheist? HA! You got naught on me, try me hahahaha

Ray Fischer

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Johnny <wxpprof...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:4424e46a$0$58082$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> Sean Monaghan <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>>>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>
>> Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
>> one forced to keep it alive.
>
>Why do you think other men want to take care fo your babies?

Why do you think that women want to listen to a crackpot like you?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Paul Anderson

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On 25 Mar 2006 10:44:45 -0800, "Julia" <fred....@rediffmail.com>
wrote:

>What about Depoprovera . I heard that it is an effective birth control
>drug.

But there are side effects that you might want to avoid.....

>Depo-Provera Contraceptive Injection is given in the buttock or
>upper arm to prevent pregnancy. It is more than 99 percent effective;
>your chances of becoming pregnant during the first year of use are less
>than 1 in 100.
> My friend who is married two years back is on Depoprovera and still
>she is in her honeymoon.

http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/SAFETY/2004/nov04.htm

CONTRAINDICATIONS
Significant liver disease

BOXED WARNING

Women who use Depo-Provera Contraceptive Injection may lose
significant bone mineral density. Bone loss is greater with increasing
duration of use and may not be completely reversible.

It is unknown if use of Depo-Provera Contraceptive Injection during
adolescence or early adulthood, a critical period of bone accretion,
will reduce peak bone mass and increase the risk for osteoporotic
fracture in later life.

Depo-Provera Contraceptive Injection should be used as a long-term
birth control method (longer than two years) only if other birth
control methods are inadequate.

WARNINGS

Use of Depo-Provera CI reduces serum estrogen levels and is associated
with significant loss of bone mineral density (BMD) as bone metabolism
accommodates to a lower estrogen level. This loss of BMD is of
particular concern during adolescence and early adulthood, a critical
period of bone accretion...... (See prescribing information.)

Johnny

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"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Johnny <wxpprof...@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>news:4424e46a$0$58082$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>> Sean Monaghan <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>>>>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>>
>>> Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
>>> one forced to keep it alive.
>>
>>Why do you think other men want to take care of your babies?

>
> Why do you think that women want to listen to a crackpot like you?

Why do you try to lay it all on women when you are asked about your own
children?
Why do you try to lay children on men other than the men who sired them?


f22f...@yahoo.com

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no dont STOP! become pregnant and ABORT just to spite these
taliban-christio-fanatics, f them and they're book of fantasy bs!!!!!!
if you cant handel reality jump off a gd bridge but dont try shove your
fantasy novel down my throat cause you'll end up having it shoved up
your dim-witted loony ass!!!!!!

David W. Barnes

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:07:20 PM3/25/06
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In article <1143317077.9...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<f22f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

More proof that aborting at least some unwanted fetus' is a good thing.

f22f...@yahoo.com

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D W B go str8 to hell s.o.b

David W. Barnes

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:10:46 PM3/25/06
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In article <1143317397....@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
<f22f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> D W B go str8 to hell s.o.b

Another vote for the Republicans.

Rob

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:12:44 PM3/25/06
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Please do not cross-post. Thank you.

David W. Barnes

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:19:53 PM3/25/06
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In article <1143317564.3...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Rob
<rud...@rogers.com> wrote:

I REPLIED. Tell it to the original poster.

Ray Fischer

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Johnny <wxpprof...@msn.com> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Johnny <wxpprof...@msn.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Sean Monaghan <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>>>>>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>>>
>>>> Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
>>>> one forced to keep it alive.
>>>
>>>Why do you think other men want to take care of your babies?
>>
>> Why do you think that women want to listen to a crackpot like you?
>
>Why do you try to lay it all on women when you are asked about your own
>children?

Now you're seeing things that don't exist. Again.

You're just a pro-liar hypocrite.

--
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rfis...@sonic.net

raven1

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:35:16 PM3/25/06
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On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
<sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Move along folks, noting to see here.
--

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Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"

Anonyma

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:41:23 PM3/25/06
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"newsguy" <nuw...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1143288301.296302.159590
@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

>
> Sean Monaghan wrote:
>> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>

>> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>
>

> Funny then you would think the bible would say a fetus is
> life not property then.
>
> Exo 21:
> 22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit
> depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely
> punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him;
> and he shall pay as the judges determine.
> 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
>
> Note who is life and what is property.
>
> If a fetus is a human being then rape is legal. If a fetus
> has a right as a human being to be in a woman without
> her consent, so does anyone.
>
>

Why?


Explain yourself.


Rob

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:46:51 PM3/25/06
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David W. Barnes wrote:
> In article <1143317564.3...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Rob
> <rud...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> > David W. Barnes wrote:
> > > In article <1143317077.9...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > <f22f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > no dont STOP! become pregnant and ABORT just to spite these
> > > > taliban-christio-fanatics, f them and they're book of fantasy bs!!!!!!
> > > > if you cant handel reality jump off a gd bridge but dont try shove your
> > > > fantasy novel down my throat cause you'll end up having it shoved up
> > > > your dim-witted loony ass!!!!!!
> > >
> > > More proof that aborting at least some unwanted fetus' is a good thing.
> >
> > Please do not cross-post. Thank you.
>
> I REPLIED. Tell it to the original poster.

Here's a thought. Next time you or anyone reply, delete all the
newsgroups EXCEPT the pertinent one, which is
alt.abortion,talk.abortion! This is getting broadcast to newgroups that
have nothing to do with this topic. A little cooperation would be nice.

Thank you.

Rob

Captain Compassion

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:55:00 PM3/25/06
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On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
<sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

Murder is a legal term which means unlawful killing. Abortion isn't
murder but merely baby killing.

--
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whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance

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"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce

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so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion

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Johnny

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Mar 25, 2006, 3:55:19 PM3/25/06
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<f22f...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1143317077.9...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

What anger.
Is that why people don't like Pro-Choicers?


--sexkitten--

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Bill Bradley wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:49:29 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
> <witc...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>>
>>Please keep your dick in your pants.
>
>
> Too late, Dick crawled his way onto the Regressive Party Presidential
> campaign ticket back in 2000 & has been residing as V.P. ever since
> ;-) he's been spawning like a fly ever since, can't you tell by these
> newsgroups how fertile he's been? ;-)

Well, you know what they say...a Dick in the hand is worth two in the
Bush.....

--
--sexkitten--
"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the
Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand
on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."
-Prof. Jamie Raskin

--sexkitten--

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Mar 25, 2006, 4:53:55 PM3/25/06
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David W. Barnes wrote:

At the rate things are going, he/she/it will probably be running in '08.

The Ghost In The Machine

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, Sean Monaghan wrote:

> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
> a living human being and you can't kill that.

I could probably kill it easily, although probably not legally (I'm not a
certified physician), and any methods I employ would probably kill the
mother as well. :-) Of course if no one *can* kill it, it's not worth the
bother; it's the *may* that is clearly troubling to you. Why, I don't know.

> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

Be more specific. For example, one could require one or more of the
following.

1. Monitoring of doctor's offices.

2. Monitoring of doctors. This would be accomplished by various means.

3. Requiring of registration of all pregnant women. If a woman gets a
pregnancy positive she gets to call somebody, fill out an app form, or
talk to a counselor who takes information, etc.

4. Registration of all women. At first menarche she gets paperwork.
Congratulations! You're a number!

5. Registration of all female babies at earliest opportunity. In this
case the mother would fill out the paperwork.

And remember, it's for Saving The Children(tm), a noble goal well worth
the complete massacre of our freedoms.

Or is it?

--
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It's still legal to go .sigless.

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David W. Barnes

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In article <1143323...@sp6iad.superfeed.net>, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> David W. Barnes wrote:
>
> > In article <1143317397....@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> > <f22f...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>D W B go str8 to hell s.o.b
> >
> >
> > Another vote for the Republicans.
>
> At the rate things are going, he/she/it will probably be running in '08.

And at the rate things have gone in the past, get "elected" after a
long count.

David W. Barnes

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Mar 25, 2006, 8:11:54 PM3/25/06
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In article <1143319611.7...@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Rob
<rud...@rogers.com> wrote:

You want a little cooperation? Maybe you should start. How the hell
are we supposed to know which newsgroups are the newsgroups we are
supposed to be posting to when a post comes from those newsgroups?

The Chief Instigator

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duke <duckg...@cox.net> writes:

>On 25 Mar 2006 06:34:18 GMT, rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

>>Then a woman should just remove it from her body and YOU can be the
>>one forced to keep it alive.

>No, that would be murder on her part.

You obviously never have had anything to do with LSU. (or USL, either, even
though they're now ULL)

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Mar 25, 2006, 8:20:11 PM3/25/06
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"Johnny" <wxpprof...@msn.com> writes:

Where did you (ahem) deduce that Ray is talking about his children? I know,
it's that complete inability of yours to read for context.

>Why do you try to lay children on men other than the men who sired them?

Why do you impersonate a crackhead in the majority of the posts you make?

The Chief Instigator

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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_...@hotmail.com> writes:

>David W. Barnes wrote:

>>>D W B go str8 to hell s.o.b
>> Another vote for the Republicans.

>At the rate things are going, he/she/it will probably be running in '08.

I don't think the Constitution will have been amended to allow
sixteen-year-olds to be eligible for that, that soon.

quibbler

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Mar 25, 2006, 9:13:58 PM3/25/06
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In article <1143267299....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
sean.mo...@gmail.com says...

> If you kill a living human being

A fetus is not a human being. It doesn't have an active brain capable of
higher consciousness, so it is brain dead state like you.


> then that is a murder.

Murder is unlawful killing and abortion is legal, so you lose again. In
any event, there are many times that killing a human being is not murder.
Killing a human being in self defense is not murder. A woman who has an
abortion is practicing self defense against an an invading organism which
is criminally trespassing inside her body and threatening her life and
health. Of course, it isn't a human being, but it is still defending
oneself to eliminate it.


> A baby fetus is
> a living human being

No, humans are defined by brain activity and a fetus has less brain
activity than even people in persistent vegetative states like Terry
Schiavo.

> and you can't kill that.

You can't kill it, because it's not a alive in a meaningfully human
sense.

>
> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

Would retail slaughter be preferable, dickhead?

BTW, you apparently haven't figured this out, but it's a bit late in the
game to say "PLEASE" when you already accused your opponents of being
murderers. BTW, why did you leave off the term fetus and just call it a
baby? If doctors agreed that it was a baby and not a fetus then why do
you think they have a separate term for it?


--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins

Rick

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quibbler wrote in message ...
[snip]

>Murder is unlawful killing and abortion is legal, so you lose again. In
>any event, there are many times that killing a human being is not murder.
>Killing a human being in self defense is not murder. A woman who has an
>abortion is practicing self defense against an an invading organism which
>is criminally trespassing inside her body and threatening her life and
>health. Of course, it isn't a human being, but it is still defending
>oneself to eliminate it.

That has got to be one of the most incredibly, mind-bogglingly stupid and
misanthropic statements I've ever heard. Has your mother filed charges
against you for your criminal trespass?

- Rick


Captain Compassion

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Mar 25, 2006, 10:32:25 PM3/25/06
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:19:02 -0500, Attila <proc...@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:55:00 -0800, Captain Compassion
><dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> in alt.abortion with message-id


><qbbb22df2hovnpuj1...@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
>><sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>>>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>>
>>>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>>
>>Murder is a legal term which means unlawful killing. Abortion isn't
>>murder but merely baby killing.
>

>No babies are killed in an abortion.

In many states if you murder a pregnant woman you can also be charged
with the murder of the unborn baby. So your statement may have some
legal and logical problems.

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Mar 25, 2006, 10:40:23 PM3/25/06
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In article <0tOdnWN0re-_l7vZ...@giganews.com>,
pl1_alp...@juNOSPAM.com says...

> quibbler wrote in message ...
> [snip]
>
> >Murder is unlawful killing and abortion is legal, so you lose again. In
> >any event, there are many times that killing a human being is not murder.
> >Killing a human being in self defense is not murder. A woman who has an
> >abortion is practicing self defense against an an invading organism which
> >is criminally trespassing inside her body and threatening her life and
> >health. Of course, it isn't a human being, but it is still defending
> >oneself to eliminate it.
>
> That has got to be one of the most incredibly, mind-bogglingly stupid


The notion that abortion is murder certainly is mind-bogglingly stupid.


> and misanthropic statements I've ever heard. Has your mother filed charges
> against you for your criminal trespass?

If the woman wants to be pregnant then she wouldn't consider it
trespassing, fool. If someone sneaks into your house, locks himself in
your master bedroom and refuses to leave, despite your expressed desires
otherwise, then that is trespassing, among other things. If someone
breaks into your house in the middle of the night and presents a threat
to your life then many people believe that you would be justified to
defend yourself by shooting the intruder. An unwanted pregnancy is an
unlawful intruder that assaults the woman's body and potentially even
threatens her life. A woman is over ten times more likely to die in
child birth than in abortion. Perhaps you don't think that a woman owns
her own body, or has a right to defend it from serious threats, but
that's why nobody asked you.

David W. Barnes

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In article <1143345317.2...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<f22f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> you gd fool was a rupublkkkan already! D W B ASSHOE yes hoe
Go away kid.

David W. Barnes

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In article <1143345423.2...@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
<f22f...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> mind your own
>
> buissness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> cross post that (consider your ass bitch slaped BITCH)

Based on your spelling you are ten, on your maturity, five. Which is
it?

Olrik

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Reasoned Insanity wrote:
> "Sean Monaghan" <sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1143267299....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

>> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>> a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>
>> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>>
>
>
> The only science that the liberals have to support them is decades old, but
> it allows them to dehumanize the unborn just as hitler did to the jews.

And all you're doing is claiming women and their bodies to be your
property. Putrid.

--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

nuwsguy

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If a fetus has the rights of a human being, then under
equal protection of the 14th Amendment anyone
must have the same right as that fetus to be in a
woman without her consent. Thus legalizing rape.
Under equal protection you cannot give one a special
right to be in a woman without their consent, without
giving everyone the right to be in a woman without
their consent.

It is no different than a white has a right to marry a
white therefore the black must have the very same right.
If you elevate a fetus to a human status, you cause
rape to become legal, as well as the woman is lowered
to the status of a slave, to involuntary servitude of
another. If this challenge is made, a fetus will lose
rights, not gain them.

>
>
> Explain yourself.

Rudy Canoza

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Right. The term "Feminazi" has already been invented. Saves me the trouble...

Problem with these post-modernist psychopaths is they refuse to accept the
simple truth of reality. Their alternate theories become all the more
sophisticated the more they deny reality. They refuse to accept the simple
truth: in this case, by a quirk of our biology we spend the first part of
lives in our mother's womb (contrast: marsupials).

It's not difficult at all, unless you're a fool. Then you have to be smarter
than everyone else...

duke

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Mar 26, 2006, 8:12:42 AM3/26/06
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:13:58 -0700, quibbler <quibb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> If you kill a living human being

>A fetus is not a human being. It doesn't have an active brain capable of
>higher consciousness, so it is brain dead state like you.

It absolutely is a human being in the early months of existence.

Now quib, you may have started life off as a dog, but human fetus's do not
become dogs.

>> then that is a murder.

>Murder is unlawful killing and abortion is legal, so you lose again.

Abortion is legal in civil circles. God is not limited to civil laws. Are you
ready for eternity in hell?

>> A baby fetus is
>> a living human being

>No, humans are defined by brain activity

Nope, that's your definition.


duke, American-American
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duke

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:40:23 -0700, quibbler <quibb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> That has got to be one of the most incredibly, mind-bogglingly stupid

>The notion that abortion is murder certainly is mind-bogglingly stupid.

Abortion is butchery of the human unborn for mommy and daddy's comfort and
convenience.

james g. keegan jr.

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Mar 26, 2006, 8:50:48 AM3/26/06
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In article <sq4d22trtkkksrufu...@4ax.com>,
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

> Abortion is butchery of the human unborn for mommy and daddy's comfort and
> convenience.

most kids learn what abortion is before they post to abortion groups.
obviously you didn't.

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Budikka666

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Your president thinks that the US "right" to squander oil is worth at
least 30,000 lives. Where are your protests against that?

Only 3% of worldwide abortions are in the USA. What are you doing
about the literally millions of children who die - post partum -
throughout the world? What **CHOICE** do they have?

Almost exactly half of all pregnancies are unintended despite over 90%
of couples using contraception in the US. Is this the best your god
could do?

Over half the women who get pregnant unintentionally are using
contraception. Is this the best your god could do?

The bulk of unintended pregnancy is among dark-skinned women, poor
women and teenagers. Is this the best your god could do?

At least 13% of pregnancies are aborted by god (if you believe) or by
nature (if you don't). What are you doing about *that*?

The USA is overwhelmingly religious, so how do you explain that it's
among the highest in abortions in all developed nations? Clearly the
ones who are aborting are not atheists but believers.

And you're leaving out the post-partum abortions which god carries out.
The St. Stephen's Tsumani abortion took down ~200,000 perfectly
healthy babies, many of which had matured into adulthood.

What are you doing about that?

The St Amor Earthquake abortion took down over 70,000 perfectly healthy
babies, many of which had matured into adulthood.

What are you doing about that?

And you're leaving out the ~500,000 perfectly healthy babies aborted by
Rotavirus each year - another of god's works that he saw was good.

What are you doing about that?

And you're leaving out the ~2,000,000 perfectly healthy babies, many of
which had matured into adulthood, aborted by malaria each year -
another of god's works that he saw was good.

What are you pathetic whining lying abusive control-freak so-called
pro-choice advocates doing about **THAT**?

Budikka

The Ghost In The Machine

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:52:35 -0800, --sexkitten-- wrote:

> Bill Bradley wrote:


>> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:49:29 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
>> <witc...@broomstick.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>>>

>>>Please keep your dick in your pants.
>>
>>
>> Too late, Dick crawled his way onto the Regressive Party Presidential
>> campaign ticket back in 2000 & has been residing as V.P. ever since ;-)
>> he's been spawning like a fly ever since, can't you tell by these
>> newsgroups how fertile he's been? ;-)
>
> Well, you know what they say...a Dick in the hand is worth two in the
> Bush.....

Somehow I don't see Laura standing for that sort of thing. Nor do I see
Laura looking at the Vice President. I could see the VP looking at Laura,
though, under the right circumstances -- one of them including Mrs. VP not
looking. Assuming there is a Mrs. VP.

--
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It's still legal to go .sigless.

The Ghost In The Machine

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, Sean Monaghan wrote:

> If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is a


> living human being and you can't kill that.
>

> PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

You have declared a statement; now you get to defend it.

How did you plan on stopping this "wholesale slaughter"? Specifically,
what laws would you contemplate here?

stoney

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Mar 26, 2006, 12:17:50 PM3/26/06
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On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
<sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism

>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>
>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!

So much for any intelligence from the cretin.


--
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shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.

Ray Fischer

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Mar 26, 2006, 12:54:04 PM3/26/06
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> quibbler <quibb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> That has got to be one of the most incredibly, mind-bogglingly stupid
>
>>The notion that abortion is murder certainly is mind-bogglingly stupid.
>
>Abortion is butchery of the human unborn for mommy and daddy's comfort and

You certainly are stupid.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Ray Fischer

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Mar 26, 2006, 12:54:39 PM3/26/06
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:13:58 -0700, quibbler <quibb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> If you kill a living human being
>
>>A fetus is not a human being. It doesn't have an active brain capable of
>>higher consciousness, so it is brain dead state like you.
>
>It absolutely is a human being in the early months of existence.

Just because some goose-stepping control freak like you says so?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Captain Compassion

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Mar 26, 2006, 2:06:14 PM3/26/06
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:45:26 -0500, Attila <proc...@here.now> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:32:25 -0800, Captain Compassion


><dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> in alt.abortion with message-id

><ii2c22p4iqmh5vrn3...@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:19:02 -0500, Attila <proc...@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:55:00 -0800, Captain Compassion
>>><dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
>>><qbbb22df2hovnpuj1...@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
>>>><sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>>>>>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>>>>
>>>>>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>>>>
>>>>Murder is a legal term which means unlawful killing. Abortion isn't
>>>>murder but merely baby killing.
>>>
>>>No babies are killed in an abortion.
>>
>>In many states if you murder a pregnant woman you can also be charged
>>with the murder of the unborn baby. So your statement may have some
>>legal and logical problems.
>

>I was making a general reply to a general statement. Under some laws
>in some jurisdictions the death of a fetus is defined as being some
>type of statutory violation such as murder. The exact violation would
>depend on the specification in the specific law, and the exact wording
>of the specific law would define exactly what is killed - whether it
>is a fetus, a baby, or a kumquat.
>
>Your general statement that implied every fetus is a baby is still
>wrong.

Soooo.... Some fetuses are babies and some aren't?

robpar

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Mar 26, 2006, 2:10:37 PM3/26/06
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A trespasser is a unwelcome guest, a wanted pregnancy is entirely
different from a wanted pregnancy. And just a invited guest, can
become unwelcome, a intended pregnancy can become a unwelcome event,
which the woman has a right to evict from her body.
>

robpar

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Mar 26, 2006, 2:18:30 PM3/26/06
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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:55:00 -0800, Captain Compassion
<dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:

>On 24 Mar 2006 22:14:59 -0800, "Sean Monaghan"
><sean.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If you kill a living human being then that is a murder. A baby fetus is
>>a living human being and you can't kill that.
>>
>>PLEASE STOP THE WHOLESALE SLAUGHTER OF OUR BABIES!!!
>
>Murder is a legal term which means unlawful killing. Abortion isn't
>murder but merely baby killing.

Babies are not aborted. Fetuses are aborted, babies are born. Don't
allow the pro-slavery faction to change the meaning of words.

quibbler

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Mar 26, 2006, 2:27:44 PM3/26/06
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In article <sq4d22trtkkksrufu...@4ax.com>,
duckg...@cox.net says...

> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:40:23 -0700, quibbler <quibb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> That has got to be one of the most incredibly, mind-bogglingly stupid
>
> >The notion that abortion is murder certainly is mind-bogglingly stupid.
>
> Abortion is butchery

Most abortions take place before there is anything to "butcher". It's
like saying that you're butchering a lentil bean or a peanut.

> of the human

It's pre-human, bitch.


> unborn for mommy and daddy's comfort and
> convenience.


Neither comfort nor convenience is illegal, asswipe. You lose again.

robpar

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Mar 26, 2006, 2:50:10 PM3/26/06
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:11:54 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dba...@aol.com>
wrote:

>> Here's a thought. Next time you or anyone reply, delete all the
>> newsgroups EXCEPT the pertinent one, which is
>> alt.abortion,talk.abortion! This is getting broadcast to newgroups that
>> have nothing to do with this topic. A little cooperation would be nice.
>
Start by telling people what group, you are in, requesting that your
group be left out. This will give YOU some power to limit what others
in your group will receive,
>You want a little cooperation? Maybe you should start. How the hell
>are we supposed to know which newsgroups are the newsgroups we are
>supposed to be posting to when a post comes from those newsgroups?

Easy enough set follow ups to the group you are posting to, which
starts a new thread. Going only to your group.

David W. Barnes

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Mar 26, 2006, 3:00:17 PM3/26/06
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In article <eprd221fsmk71brkc...@4ax.com>, robpar
<rob...@airmail.net> wrote:

I don't think you understand. When someone from another group makes a
statement, and I respond to it, I have no way of knowing which group
the person is part of. So I must respond to all the groups in order to
ensure that person sees it.

quibbler

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Mar 26, 2006, 3:00:15 PM3/26/06
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In article <44266766...@argentina.com>,
love.te...@argentina.com says...

> Rick wrote:
> >
> > quibbler wrote in message ...
> > [snip]
> >
> > >Murder is unlawful killing and abortion is legal, so you lose again. In
> > >any event, there are many times that killing a human being is not murder.
> > >Killing a human being in self defense is not murder. A woman who has an
> > >abortion is practicing self defense against an an invading organism which
> > >is criminally trespassing inside her body and threatening her life and
> > >health. Of course, it isn't a human being, but it is still defending
> > >oneself to eliminate it.
> >
> > That has got to be one of the most incredibly, mind-bogglingly stupid and
> > misanthropic statements I've ever heard. Has your mother filed charges
> > against you for your criminal trespass?
> >
> > - Rick
>
> Right.

On opposite day.


>The term "Feminazi" has already been invented

It was invented by a complete moron named Rush Lamebrain, and you're an
even bigger idiot than he is for quoting him. As a much smarter Hillary
Clinton said, feminism is the radical notion that women are people.
While I guess that would make me a feminist, in that sense, I largely
leave that subject to people who are actually women and not just pervert
cross-dressers like you.


>Saves me the trouble...

No, it just proves you can't think for yourself, but what else is new.

>
> Problem with these post-modernist

I don't subscribe to post-modern philosophy at all, you pathetic
fucktard.

> psychopaths

No, you're the psychopaths who bomb abortion clinics and perform other
treasonous acts of domestic terrorism, you cowardly piece of shit.


> is they refuse to accept the
> simple truth of reality.

You're just simple-minded and have no clue about reality.


> Their alternate theories become all the more
> sophisticated the more they deny reality.

Too bad you don't know what the fuck you're even talking about, but I
guess that doesn't stop you from babbling incoherently. What is
unrealistic about saying that a zygote doesn't have a brain or a nervous
system and therefore cannot suffer brain-death. Since human life ends at
brain death, a zygote cannot be a human life. Now I suppose you'll tell
me about the ultra-realistic, invisible, immaterial soul and how jebus
was a magic sponge who died for sins that hadn't even been committed yet.


> They refuse to accept the simple
> truth:

You're just a simpleton, and have no concept of the truth.

> in this case, by a quirk of our biology we spend the first part of
> lives

The sperm and ova are "alive" before conception too. So are many other
cells in our bodies, including cancerous tumors. But a zygote is not the
same as a human because, by the law of identity, it lacks many features
identified with humans such as a formed body, a brain, nerves, a heart,
vital organs, etc. The zygote is a blueprint for building a human over
the course of nine-months. It becomes progressively more like a human as
the trimesters progress and somewhere in the third trimester is
sufficently human like and capable of functioning outside the womb so
that we can grant it human status. However, over 50% of abortions take
place before the first 8 weeks and 91% take place before the first
trimester, when the blastula, embryo and/or fetus is not anywhere close
to having the traits to make it fully human. Only when it survives all
the rigors of pregnancy and child birth does the US constitution confer
citizenship upon it.

> It's not difficult at all, unless you're a fool.


Obviously you're a fool then, because your difficulty is with the truth.
A house begins as a stack of lumber, but only an idiot like yourself
would call lumber an "unbuilt house". A blueprint of a house is not the
same as the actual house, your stupidity notwithstanding. Furthermore,
if I came and started building a house, uninvited, on your front lawn,
you probably wouldn't be too happy. I suppose I could argue like you
assholes do that, once the first brick was laid that it was too late to
stop the project for the sake of the potential house. But don't worry,
I'm only going to camp out on your lawn, free of charge, for the next 18
years.


> Then you have to be smarter
> than everyone else...

You're the dumbest motherfucker on the planet. There are zygotes who can
think better than you can.

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