Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

AMA ignores health facts in homosexual advocacy

0 views
Skip to first unread message

J

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 11:10:31 AM11/11/09
to
Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706

AMA ignores health facts in homosexual advocacy

Chad Groening - OneNewsNow - 11/11/2009 9:30:00 AM

A conservative military watchdog says the American Medical Association (AMA)
apparently doesn't know the facts about the 1993 law passed by Congress that
prohibits homosexuals from serving in the military.


On Tuesday the homosexual activist group Servicemembers United hailed a
recent decision by the AMA to pass a resolution calling for the repeal of
the military's controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy. "This is yet
another nail in the coffin of the flawed and outdated [policy], and it
should send a strong message to those who continue to blindly claim that
this policy works," states a Servicemembers United press release.

The AMA -- which, according to Servicemembers United, worked "exclusively"
with them on the resolution for nearly six months -- cited concerns that
military medical providers might divulge personal information about patients
to their commanders, thus exposing a service member's homosexuality and
resulting in their discharge.

But Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, says
the AMA's confidentiality concerns have nothing to do with the actual 1993
law, which says homosexuals are not eligible to be in the armed forces even
if they do not reveal it.

"The first thing that they ought to have done is read the actual statute,"
she suggests, "and then maybe they would have figured out what their
position should be. The second mistake they made was they consulted only
with the advocates of gays in the military. It would have made a lot more
sense to get balanced information."

And according to Donnelly, there is another reason why the AMA's support for
homosexuals in the military is misguided.

"An organization that concerns itself with health matters should know that
introducing into the military people who are at high risk of HIV infection
makes no sense," she asserts. "For the AMA to ignore all that and listen
only to an advocacy group that's looking at only part of the story really
reflects very poorly on the credibility of that organization."

Donnelly says ultimately it will be up to Congress, not the AMA, to decide
whether to lift the ban on homosexual military service -- and she believes
Congress will not do it.

"Copyright 2009 American Family News Network - Used by permission."


--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com

LC

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 11:20:47 AM11/11/09
to

"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:39bd6k....@news.alt.net...

> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?

So you'll be moving on?

Who here supports J Young:
Yes: 0 (0%)
Don't care: 0 (0%)
No: 29 (100%)

Who here likes J Young:
Yes: 0 (0%)
Don't care: 0 (0%)
No: 29 (100%)

Who here would appreciate if <J Young> stopped posting?:
Yes: 25 (86.21%)
Don't care: 2 (6.9%)
No: 2 (6.9%)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/259af5db24de50fd?hl=en

<"J's" homo-obsession flushed>


W.T.S.

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 12:09:11 PM11/11/09
to
"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:39bd6k....@news.alt.net...
> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?
> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706
"onenewsnow", Hate and bigotry unlimited!
Why are you on the Earth where you're clearly not welcome?
Bible, bad. Sex, good.
--
http://folding.stanford.edu
Save lives, visit today!


tirebiter

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 12:27:48 PM11/11/09
to
On Nov 11, 11:10 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> Let's be honest

A phrase often used to set up a lie to follow.

> homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted,

And here's the lie.

> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?
>

Says the troll who posts several threads a day in a NG that has
repeatedly asked him to stop.

---
a.a. #2273

Ray Fischer

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 1:38:44 PM11/11/09
to
J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>Let's be honest,

Are you finally going to admit that you're a nazi turd who hates
America?

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

Uncle Vic

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 1:52:34 PM11/11/09
to
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:

>
> onenewsnow.com

I'll take you seriously when you quote from a serious source.

--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.

Jimbo

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 1:54:45 PM11/11/09
to
On Nov 11, 11:10 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?
>
> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706
>
> AMA ignores health facts in homosexual advocacy
>
> Chad Groening - OneNewsNow - 11/11/2009 9:30:00 AM
>
> A conservative military watchdog

That fact alone renders the credibility of this article down to zero.

The Chief Instigator

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 3:18:28 PM11/11/09
to
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:52:34 -0600, Uncle Vic <add...@withheld.com> wrote:
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> onenewsnow.com
>
> I'll take you seriously when you quote from a serious source.

That's as likely as a blizzard in Dallas in mid-August.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 5, San Antonio 2 (November 7)
NEXT GAME: Friday, November 13 at Lake Erie, 6:35

Lewis K. Zeelastik

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 4:08:56 PM11/11/09
to

"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:39bd6k....@news.alt.net...
> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?

Homosexuality should be made mandatory for enlistment into the armed forces.
This would solve all homophobic problems. But a ban should be put in place
to avoid backward retreats from the non-homo enemy (or should that be
enema?)


Syd M.

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 5:39:39 PM11/11/09
to
On Nov 11, 11:10 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?
>
>

Yes, Junkie Young, why ARE you here, were you clearly aren't wanted?

PDW

The Chief Instigator

unread,
Nov 11, 2009, 7:20:32 PM11/11/09
to

There is one thing that he could actually be useful for: to be strung up in
an NHL game that can't be resolved in regulation or overtime, which means
he'd be trussed up in the cage for at least three rounds at both ends, and
more if the shooters from either side were accurate that night.

anonymous

unread,
Nov 12, 2009, 12:49:09 AM11/12/09
to
Most heterosexual woman have a horrible, terrible time in the military
all because of men, the type of men that join the military.

So you can leave out gays and lesbians. The military needs to fix the
ability of women to successfully build meaningful military careers.

Mr. B

unread,
Nov 12, 2009, 11:29:16 AM11/12/09
to
> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix.

Which is ironic considering that during World War II, many homosexuals
joined the Marines, just to prove that they were tough enough. They also
fought and died for their country.

> They are no wanted,

Mostly because of idiots like you, who keep telling everyone that there is
something wrong with being gay. If you people who stop spreading hate for
just a generation or two, this situation would be fixed quickly.

> so why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?

Because some of us want to live in a society that is not dominated by
centuries old hatred.

> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706

Always a reliable source of news.

-- B

Dänk 1010011010

unread,
Nov 14, 2009, 9:09:53 PM11/14/09
to
On Nov 11, 9:10 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?
>
> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706
>
> AMA ignores health facts in homosexual advocacy

I am one of the few gay men willing to admit the health risks of the
homosexual lifestyle. One of the most obvious risks is HIV, which is
so prevalent among gay men that they are still forbidden to donate
blood.

The military is a very bloody occupation, and gay soldiers would
likely be wounded in battle, and would likely be called upon to donate
blood to wounded comrades. Even the most sophisticated and frequent
HIV tests can't detect the virus in the earliest stages of infection,
and in battle there might be no time to test donor blood at all.
Whether they like the statistics or not, gay men are at least 100x as
likely to be infected with HIV than straight men. And HIV is just one
of many diseases gay men are prone to, with Hepatitis also being very
prevalent.

All the studies showing gay men are as capable of military service as
straight men do not take infectious disease into account, and all such
studies are biased and conducted by 'scientists' with a political
agenda. The studies are designed to serve their own needs, not the
needs of the U.S. military, and certainly not the needs of the U.S.
soldiers who will be exposed to deadly contagious diseases in the name
of promoting 'tolerance.'

Ray Fischer

unread,
Nov 15, 2009, 1:44:16 AM11/15/09
to
D�nk 1010011010 <dan...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 11, 9:10�am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
>> why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?
>>
>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706
>>
>> AMA ignores health facts in homosexual advocacy
>
>I am one of the few gay men willing to admit the health risks of the
>homosexual lifestyle. One of the most obvious risks is HIV, which is

Or you're another dishonest homophobic bigot.

--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net

RamRod Sword of Baal

unread,
Nov 15, 2009, 2:25:07 AM11/15/09
to

"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4affa340$0$1603$742e...@news.sonic.net...


And I agree with you Ray.

juanjo

unread,
Nov 15, 2009, 3:15:57 AM11/15/09
to
On Nov 14, 6:09 pm, Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 9:10 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no wanted, so
> > why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not welcome?
>
> >http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706
>
> > AMA ignores health facts in homosexual advocacy
>
> I am one of the few gay men willing to admit the health risks of the
> homosexual lifestyle.  One of the most obvious risks is HIV, which is
> so prevalent among gay men that they are still forbidden to donate
> blood.
>

Dank boy, you have been caught in so many lies that not even your own
mother would believe you if you told her you were her son. We know
you are not gay and we know you lie about everything else.

As for your HIV projections, they are also just so much more bull
pucky. In 2008 the US population was estimated as being upwards of
304,059,724. The CDC estimates that there are 1.1 million people in
the United States who are infected with HIV or have been diagnosed
with AIDS. 48% of that number are identified as MSM or men who have
sex with men which includes homosexual men, bisexual men, straight men
who have had sex with other men as prostitutes or in prison, men who
have experimented with male to male sex and other men who do not
classify themselves as either heterosexual or homosexual for whatever
reason. That means the number of people who have HIV/AIDS in the US
are 528,000. The CDC estimates that MSM's are roughly 5 to 8% of the
population. If we take the lower end of that estimate, that means
there are 15,202,986 million MSM in the United States. Given these
numbers then the number of MSM who have HIV/AIDS is 3.4% of the MSM
population

thomas p.

unread,
Nov 15, 2009, 8:01:13 AM11/15/09
to
D�nk 1010011010 wrote:
> On Nov 11, 9:10 am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> Let's be honest, homos and the military don't mix. They are no
>> wanted, so why would anyone want to be where they clearly are not
>> welcome?
>>
>> http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=763706
>>
>> AMA ignores health facts in homosexual advocacy
>
> I am one of the few gay men willing to admit the health risks of the
> homosexual lifestyle.

Promiscuous, unprotected sex, heterosexual as well as homosexual, is
the lifestyle (along with others) that risks HIV infection.

snip


thomas p.

unread,
Nov 15, 2009, 8:01:36 AM11/15/09
to

Very likely.


Dionisio

unread,
Dec 6, 2009, 7:44:46 PM12/6/09
to
J wrote:
> But Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, says
> the AMA's confidentiality concerns have nothing to do with the actual 1993
> law, which says homosexuals are not eligible to be in the armed forces even
> if they do not reveal it.
>
> "The first thing that they ought to have done is read the actual statute,"
> she suggests, "and then maybe they would have figured out what their
> position should be. The second mistake they made was they consulted only
> with the advocates of gays in the military. It would have made a lot more
> sense to get balanced information."
>
> And according to Donnelly, there is another reason why the AMA's support for
> homosexuals in the military is misguided.
>
> "An organization that concerns itself with health matters should know that
> introducing into the military people who are at high risk of HIV infection
> makes no sense," she asserts. "For the AMA to ignore all that and listen
> only to an advocacy group that's looking at only part of the story really
> reflects very poorly on the credibility of that organization."

Ah, another case of "they only need listen to me and my opinion to know the truth" syndrome.

Golly, and to think that that's what they're accusing the Military of doing...

"Reflections of credibility..."

Hard to see much of a reflection of anything in a kettle, let alone a pot...


--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:

Thank you for your interest in HoroscopesForTheParanoid.com.

You selected, "Tell me my immediate future," as your free trial horoscope.

We see the following:

"Today you will have the eerie sensation that either you are going crazy or you are being
watched by something indescribably evil. Luckily for you, you're in fine shape, mentally."

This glimpse into the future has been brought to you free of charge.

(Brought to you by SigChanger.)

0 new messages