Hillary Clinton's Biggest Cover-ups
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than her attempt to whitewash her own personal transformation from Goldwater
girl to Marxist. No mainstream media organization has examined how she is
determined in her new book to keep people in the dark about what Hillary
biographer, the late Barbara Olson, described as her "roots in Marxism."
"In her formative years," explained Olson, "Marxism was a very important
part of her ideology..."
Olson's important 1999 book, Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary
Rodham Clinton (Regnery Publishing, Inc., 1999), remains the best account of
Hillary's communist connections and emergence as a "budding Leninist" who
"understood the Leninist concept of acquiring, accumulating and maintaining
political power at any cost."
As an example, Hillary's book gripes that the end to her illegal closed-door
health-care task-force meetings, where a socialized medicine scheme was
hatched, was the result of her opponents citing an "obscure federal law" in
court. Hillary, a lawyer, never wanted the law to get in her way.
Leaving The GOP
Hillary's book, Living History (Simon & Schuster), does attempt to explain
her move from the political right to the left. But it stops far short of
explaining her involvement with extreme left-wing groups and individuals in
league with America's enemies.
The book says that Hillary was the daughter of a staunch Republican and
that, in high school, she read Senator Barry Goldwater's book, The
Conscience of a Conservative, and wrote a term paper on the American
conservative movement. She dedicated it to her parents, "who have always
taught me to be an individual." She was a Goldwater supporter in 1964 and
had "strong anti-Communist views," she says. She also got deeply involved in
the United Methodist Church, which "opened my eyes and heart to the needs of
others." Her conservative views persisted, however, into the time that she
entered Wellesley College in 1965, where she served as president of the
college's Young Republicans during her freshman year. However, she says that
she began having more doubts about the war against communism in
Vietnam-doubts fed by a Methodist magazine she was receiving at college, as
well as reports in the New York Times.
Defending The Black Panthers
She moved on to Yale Law School in 1969, which was a hotbed of activity on
behalf of the violently racist Black Panther organization. She writes that,
"The world and its realities came crashing down on Yale in April 1970, when
eight Black Panthers, including party leader Bobby Seale, were put on trial
for murder in New Haven. Thousands of angry protesters, convinced the
Panthers had been set up by the FBI and government prosecutors, swarmed into
the city. Demonstrations broke out in and around campus. The campus was
bracing for a huge May Day rally to support the Panthers when I learned,
late on the night of April 27, that the International Law Library, which was
in the basement of the law school, was on fire. Horrified, I rushed to join
a bucket brigade of faculty, staff and students to put out the fire and to
rescue books damaged by flames and water."
So Living History portrays Hillary as someone who didn't participate in the
pro-Panther demonstrations but just tried to save some books from a fire.
Panther Justice
Former sixties radical David Horowitz says that both Hillary Rodham and Bill
Lann Lee, who later became President Clinton's head of the U.S. Justice
Department's Civil Rights Division, helped organize the pro-Panther
demonstrations at Yale. Others sympathetic to Hillary contend that she was
merely among a group of law students who monitored the trial on behalf of
the ACLU, which was concerned that law enforcement was violating the civil
liberties of members of the party. But Hillary says nothing in her book
about even this role.
What is not in dispute is that she served on the Board of Editors of the
Yale Review of Law and Social Action, a "progressive" alternative to the
school's traditional review, and that its fall 1970 issue was devoted to the
trial and glorifying the Panthers.
The Red Lawyer
During the summer of 1971, Mrs. Clinton writes in her book, she was a law
clerk at the Oakland firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein. "I spent most
of my time working for Mal Burnstein researching, writing legal motions and
briefs for a child custody case," she said. In fact, however, the public
record shows that Clinton worked for Robert Treuhaft, a member of the
Communist Party USA (CPUSA) and Harvard-trained lawyer for the party.
Citing public sources, Peter Flaherty's book, The First Lady (Vital Issues
Press, 1996), says that "Hillary was recommended to Treuhaft by some of her
professors at Yale. She was looking for a 'movement' law firm to work at for
the summer. As it turns out, Hillary would continue her association and
support of the Black Panther cause while working as a law clerk for
Treuhaft." Flaherty notes that Treuhaft told Herb Caen of the San Francisco
Examiner, "That was the time we were representing the Black Panthers, and
she worked on that case."
Don't Ask, Don't Tell
Mrs. Clinton's involvement with Treuhaft is no secret, although Hillary
clearly doesn't want to talk about it. A New York Times obituary of
Treuhaft, who died in 2001, said that he had "accepted a young Yale lawyer
named Hillary Rodham (now Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton) as an intern." A
British newspaper, the London Times, said that "generations of liberal
lawyers were groomed under his [Treuhaft's] tutelage, including a young Yale
law student named Hillary Rodham."
These two obituaries are posted at a website in honor of Treuhaft's famous
wife, British author Jessica Mitford, herself a member of the CPUSA whose
lobbying of Bill Clinton on the death penalty issue was reportedly
facilitated by Hillary.
The Harvard Law Bulletin said about Treuhaft: "He belonged to and served as
attorney to the Communist Party of the United States for many years and
defended the civil rights of groups such as the Black Panther Party, Vietnam
War draft resisters, and members of Berkeley's free speech movement."
The London Times said Treuhaft and Mitford left the CPUSA in 1958 and that
"Khrushchev's denunciation of the crimes of Stalin had been influential in
driving away lots of believers." But Khruschev had denounced Stalin's crime
in February 1956. The Times said that "the Mitford/Treuhaft idea that the
American Communist ideal should be an indigenous affair never took root,"
suggesting they left the party not because of what Stalin did but because
working through the CPUSA had proven to be ineffective in establishing a
communist America. The British newspaper The Independent said that Treuhaft
and Mitford continued to sing the Internationale, once the Soviet national
anthem, after they left the party.
Barbara Olson reported, "Hillary has never repudiated her connection with
the Communist movement in America or explained her relationship with two of
its leading adherents. Of course, no one has pursued these questions with
Hillary. She has shown she will not answer hard questions about her past,
and she has learned that she does not need to-remarkable in an age when
political figures are allowed such little privacy."
Anti-Anti-Communist
In her book, however, Hillary does write about some of her radical
associates. She notes a meeting in 1969 with David Mixner of the Vietnam
Moratorium Committee, an anti-Vietnam war protest group that came under
investigation by the House Internal Security Subcommittee for its
involvement with communists and backing from Hanoi. Mixner would go on to
become a leading homosexual activist, adviser to and friend of President
Clinton. He was credited with delivering some six million votes to Clinton
in 1992.
Former conservative David Brock's book, The Seduction of Hillary Rodham,
links Hillary with Robert Borosage, a Yale Law School graduate and one of
the founders of the Yale Review, who would later become director of the
Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), a Marxist think tank. Borosage is now
co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, a group trying to move the
Democratic Party further to the political left.
Hillary writes about her involvement with the Children's Defense Fund,
headed by Marian Wright Edelman, but omits any mention of the New World
Foundation (NWF). Hillary followed Edelman's husband, Peter, as chairman of
the NWF. Mrs. Clinton chaired the group during a time, 1982-1988, when it
gave grants to the Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador, a
front group for the communist terrorists; the National Lawyers Guild, a
one-time-identified communist front; and the Christic Institute, an extreme
left-wing group of lawyers which practiced "legal terrorism" against
citizens, retired military and intelligence officials, and others who were
perceived to be supporting the cause of freedom from communism in Central
America.
The Cover-Up Continues
Peter Flaherty writes, "Hillary's official biography prepared by the '92
Clinton campaign makes no mention of her stint as NWF chairman, despite the
fact that she oversaw some $23 million in foundation assets. A few
journalists, like Dan Wattenberg of The American Spectator, did report on
the NWF grants during the summer of 1992, but the major media paid almost no
attention. There was no need for Hillary to defend herself."
Hillary also took advantage of Bill Clinton's radical connections, many
developed in his trips abroad. Strobe Talbott and Bill Clinton had been
Rhodes Scholars in England together, for example, and Talbott and his wife,
Brooke Shearer, "became friends of mine," she writes. Brooke's brother,
Derek Shearer, another Yale graduate, became a friend of Bill and
pro-Marxist economic adviser to Clinton.
Talbott, who also graduated from Yale and is now president of the Brookings
Institution, became Deputy Secretary of State in the Clinton administration.
Before that, he had been a columnist for Time magazine, writing a July 20,
1992, column, "The Birth of the Global Nation," that in the next century
"nationhood as we know it will be obsolete," that we would all some day
become world citizens, and that wars and human rights violations in the 20th
century had clinched "the case for world government."
To help accomplish this, Talbott pressed for the use of the U.S. military to
restore an extreme leftist, defrocked Catholic priest Jean Bertrand
Aristide, to power in Haiti in 1994. Confidential documents from the U.N.,
publicized by AIM at the time, said that Talbott and other officials viewed
an invasion as "politically desirable."
Aristide, a Marxist-oriented advocate of Liberation Theology, had been
booted from the presidency by the military because, among other things, he
was inciting mobs to threaten to burn to death judges and legislators if
they did not do his bidding.
Hillary's book describes this as a case of "the elected President" of Haiti
being returned to power "after a harrowing year of diplomacy and the landing
of American troops." But the book, Voodoo Politics by Lynn Garrison, tells a
far different story, exposing Aristide as an anti-American figure not only
allegedly involved in murder but drug trafficking. Garrison was an adviser
to one of the generals involved in the anti-Aristide coup.
The political reasons for the invasion can be seen in the make-up of the
"Aristide Foundation for Democracy," whose board included left-wing
Democrats such as Reps. Maxine Waters, John Conyers, and Joseph Kennedy, and
former Rep. Michael Barnes.
Talbott's global left-wing vision was endorsed by President Clinton, who had
sent a June 22, 1993, letter to the World Federalist Association (WFA) when
it gave Talbott its Norman Cousins Global Governance Award. In the letter,
Clinton noted that Norman Cousins, the WFA founder, had "worked for world
peace and world government" and that Talbott was a "worthy recipient" of the
award.
Hillary And China
Hillary doesn't discuss communist Chinese financial contributions to her
husband's campaign for re-election, but she admits that the communist
dictatorship wanted to use her appearance at a 1995 U.N. women's conference
in Beijing as "a public relations tool to improve its image around the
world." Hillary went anyway. She doesn't mention that radical feminist and
Marxist Bella Abzug played a role in getting her to go. Hillary was a big
fan of Abzug, having hailed her work and career in a major speech at the
U.N.
FBI files obtained by AIM identify Abzug as a member of the Communist Party
USA. She ran for Congress but was opposed by the Socialist Party for having
shown "a general unwillingness to be outspokenly critical of Communist
actions threatening the peace and freedom of the world."
Not too far from the five-star hotel where Hillary and the feminists were
meeting in Beijing, baby girls and boys were being starved to death at
Chinese orphanages.
Pictures of this brutality were smuggled out of the country by Human Rights
Watch. One showed an emaciated 11-year-old girl tied down to a bed,
withering away to nothing. A British film about the problem, The Dying
Rooms, showed children tied to wooden toilets, sleeping in their own
excrement.
The brutality reflects the Chinese policy of one child per family, enforced
through mandatory abortions, sterilization, and outright killings. Hillary
calls such a policy "barbaric" in her book but admits that in her speech to
the conference she did not criticize China by name. Ironically, all of this
is recounted in a chapter entitled "Women's Rights Are Human Rights."
For Hillary, the villains are not the Communists and fellow travelers but
the "extreme conservatives" who oppose them. She rails against conservative
talk-radio, suggesting that it played a role in provoking the 1994 Oklahoma
bombing. This is a ridiculous charge that Bill Clinton had used in a brazen
political attempt to discredit his political opponents on talk radio.
Hillary takes it further, claiming that executed bomber Timothy McVeigh was
a member of the "extreme right-wing" and had ties to "militant
anti-government groups." This is an exaggeration that borders on fantasy.
McVeigh may have attended a meeting of a militia group at some time, and he
did have some anti-government views stemming from the violent federal
assault on the Branch Davidian religious compound in Waco, Texas, in 1993.
But the evidence developed by McVeigh's attorney, Stephen Jones, and other
experts suggests that foreign terrorists may have ultimately been behind the
Murrah Building bombing. However, the Clinton administration stopped the
investigation and prosecution with McVeigh and his alleged partner, Terry
Nichols, both of whom had served in the Army. Jones' book, Others Unknown
(Public Affairs, 1998), explores this, and terrorism analyst Laurie Mylroie,
author of The War Against America (Regan Books, 2001), has also cited
evidence of a foreign or even Iraqi role in the Oklahoma City bombing.
Foreign Policy Expert?
Mrs. Clinton, who abandoned her pro-Palestinian stance and became pro-Israel
when she ran for the Senate, speaks out on foreign policy, confirming the
role of co-president she assumed in domestic and foreign affairs. Her book
defends the Clinton administration's military campaigns on behalf of the
Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo. She says the Bosnian Serbs were attacked
because they "were besieging the Muslim town of Srebrenica in a frenzy of
'ethnic cleansing.'" In fact, Srebrenica, a so-called U.N. "safe haven," was
being used to train and refurbish Muslim troops, and may have been serving
as a base for foreign terrorists in the region. Hillary conveniently ignores
the Clinton-approved "ethnic cleansing" by Croatian forces against the
Serbs.
"I had spoken out strongly in favor of Bill's leadership of NATO in the
bombing campaign to force Slobodan Milosevic's troops out of Kosovo," a
province of Yugoslavia, she says. But the House refused to authorize the
bombing, making the intervention illegal. The bombing campaign, which
resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians, amounted to
interference in a sovereign state that posed no threat to the U.S. Indeed,
the bombing benefited the Kosovo Liberation Army, a group linked to al
Qaeda. In Hillary's book, though, President Clinton "sounded the alarm on
global terrorism" and tried to get the "diabolical" Osama bin Laden.
In Rwanda, she writes, "rape and sexual assault were committed on a mass
scale, tactical weapons in the genocidal violence that raged there in 1994."
Yet she also notes that Bill later "publicly expressed regret that our
country and the international community had not done more to stop the
horror" of perhaps one million dead. The program, Triumph of Evil, noted
that the Clinton administration even hesitated to label it genocide.
With this record of devious pronouncements, Hillary reportedly wants to run
for the White House some day.
More Lies By Hillary
Dick Morris, a former Clinton political adviser, said on July 21 that
Hillary, lured by the drop in Bush's ratings, might seek and win the
Democratic nomination next year. Her background will be a problem for her,
but even more damaging are the lies she has told about her close friend,
Webb Hubbell, who went to prison for stealing from his partners and clients
of the Rose Law Firm.
Hillary says in her book that she didn't know Webb was in serious trouble
until November 24, 1994. That is a lie. She and Bill had been told in March
that Hubbell faced prosecution and that he should be ousted from the Justice
Department. They promptly sought and got his resignation. Fearing he would
reveal their darkest secrets, they and their aides set out to raise money to
buy his silence. The final OIC report says he was paid $541, 750, ostensibly
for his services, but he performed little or no work.
The claim that the Clintons didn't know Hubbell was in deep trouble until
November 1994 enabled them to say they had nothing to do with the
solicitation of hush money because they didn't know that Hubbell faced
prosecution. The more that lie is publicized the more difficult it will be
for the Clintons to return to the White House as President and First Mate.
They should have been evicted when the hush-money scandal broke.
What You Can Do
Send the enclosed cards or letters of your own choosing to David Martin of
CBS, Barbara Walters of ABC and Tucker Carlson of CNN.
CLIFF'S NOTES By Cliff Kincaid
THIS IS THE SECOND OF TWO AIM REPORTS ANALYZING AND EXPOSING the lies in
Hillary Clinton's book, Living History. Most have focused on her transparent
lies about when she learned of her husband's affair with Monica Lewinsky.
Far more important is how Senator Clinton, a possible presidential candidate
with a love of money and power, has covered up her Marxist roots. Hillary
underwent an ideological transformation during the heyday of the New Left on
campus that she doesn't want to talk about. CNN Crossfire co-host Tucker
Carlson made headlines by losing a bet that he would eat his shoes if
Hillary's book sold a million copies. Hillary then presented him with a big
shoe. Our bet is the media will continue to let Mrs. Clinton off the hook
about her relationship with communist lawyer Robert Treuhaft, the Black
Panthers, and the New World Foundation. I hope we lose the bet. We suggest
writing Carlson about pinning Hillary down on these critical matters.
IGNORING HILLARY'S LIES, THE MEDIA CLAIM TO HAVE NAILED PRESIDENT BUSH IN A
BIG whopper over Iraq. Ralph Nader is saying Bush can be impeached over
this. The media drumbeat culminated in a CBS Evening News story by defense
reporter David Martin that has been seized upon by the left as proof that
Bush has been caught in a deliberate lie. The story ran on the CBS News
website under the headline, "Bush Knew Iraq Info Was False." The headline
was later changed to, "Bush Knew Iraqi Info Was Dubious." These headlines
are false. This is all about Bush's statement in the State of the Union
address that, "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein
recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." The problem
is that the CIA signed off on Bush's statement without confirming it, and
Director George Tenet said it shouldn't have been in the speech. Martin's
story acknowledged the President's statement was at least technically
correct-because the British had made such a claim. But British Foreign
Secretary Jack Straw insists they have "reliable intelligence" on this
matter-not the forged documents which have also been in the news-which had
not been shared with the U.S. That's apparently because it was too sensitive
to be provided to the CIA. We suggest writing to David Martin about this,
asking why the CIA could not be trusted with this information. That's the
real story. It looks like another CIA failure. Since the end of the war,
Iraqi scientist Mahdi Obeidi, who headed Iraq's gas centrifuge program for
enriching uranium, alerted journalists and former weapons inspector David
Albright to nuclear parts he had hidden in his garden on orders from the
former regime. CNN reports the CIA was slow to take note of this, too. Jack
Straw noted that the report by Ambassador Joe Wilson, who investigated the
matter on behalf of the CIA, confirmed that in 1999 an Iraqi delegation
"sought the expansion of trade links with Niger-and that former Niger
government officials believed that this was in connection with the
procurement of yellowcake" or uranium oxide. Uranium is Niger's main export.
So why a controversy over 16 words in the State of the Union? The media-and
the liberals-are looking for something to use against Bush.
THE MEDIA ARE ALSO MISREPRESENTING THE SITUATION IN LIBERIA. THEY SAY
LIBERIA was founded by American slaves. False. The American Colonization
Society, which wanted the slaves in Africa for their own good, bought the
land, financed the settlements there, and ordered the slaves to declare
independence. The Liberians made a mess of it, engaging in slavery of their
own that became an international scandal in 1930. The Liberian Constitution
prohibits non-blacks from becoming citizens or owning property. The media
say Liberian President Charles Taylor is a dictator. He was freely elected
in 1997. Taylor is a target because he interfered with U.N. plans to seize
diamond mines in Sierra Leone in 2000. Taylor was supporting a rebel group
there. A U.N. court with a prosecutor appointed by U.N. boss Kofi Annan has
indicted him.
U.S. SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE WILLIAM REHNQUIST IS A PRIME TARGET OF
Hillary's wrath in her book. Rehnquist is a conservative who was in the
conservative dissenting minority in the recent Supreme Court decisions
upholding affirmative action and homosexual rights. The attacks on Rehnquist
reflect Hillary's interest since her student days in capturing control of
the legal system and using the courts to impose their radical "vision" on
the rest of us. They have largely succeeded already. We only have three
reliable conservatives on the court today-Rehnquist, Antonin Scalia and
Clarence Thomas. Columnist Robert Novak noted that conservative legal
scholars have developed deep contempt for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who
was on the wrong side of both cases. He notes that when President Reagan was
considering nominating her, there was documentary evidence of her liberal
record when she was in the Arizona legislature. But a young Justice
Department lawyer examined her record and cleared her, leading Reagan to
tell social conservatives, "She's all right." That lawyer was Ken Starr, who
became the Independent Counsel that failed to hold Hillary responsible for
her crimes.
THE BARBARA WALTERS PROGRAM ABOUT "HILLARY CLINTON'S JOURNEY" EMPHASIZED how
Hillary was raised as a Republican, but said nothing about her activities at
Yale on behalf of the racist Black Panthers, her work with communist lawyer
Robert Treuhaft, and chairmanship of the radical New World Foundation, which
promoted communism in Central America. Hillary came across as spiritual,
saying she prayed on her knees for God to save her marriage. We suggest
writing to Ms. Walters about this glaring omission in her program. Hillary
told Walters she wasn't running for president. But Newsmax.com now reports
that "sinking poll numbers for President Bush, continuing weakness in the
U.S. economy, and the failure of a clear Democratic front-runner to
emerge-all may be factors leading Mrs. Clinton to re-think her plans for
2004." During a subsequent appearance on BBC Channel 4's "Richard and Judy
Show," Mrs. Clinton was pressed on whether she might run and said, "You
never know what might happen."
IF MRS. CLINTON WINS THE PRESIDENCY, BILL CLINTON PRESUMABLY BECOMES THE
"First husband," where he'll have another opportunity to evaluate White
House interns. He would also have another opportunity to affect policy. In a
June 14 article on how Bill Clinton made $9.5 million from speeches in 2002,
the Washington Post noted in passing that he got $300,000 from a group
called "the Australian Council for the Promotion of Peaceful Reunification
of China, which the Central News Agency in Taiwan describes as a
'pro-Beijing organization.'" Clinton spoke to a conference in Australia in
February 2002 sponsored by the council. The American Foreign Policy Council
quotes sources in Taiwan as saying that the group is a "typical
international United Front" operation conducted by Beijing against Taiwan,
and that its conferences are subsidized by Beijing through pro-communist
individuals and organizations. Chinese dissident Wei Jingsheng had urged
Clinton to pull out of the conference because it was a front for the
communists. He said Beijing was spending $1 million on the conference,
including the fee for Clinton. A spokesman for the group denied being backed
by Beijing. Our media don't show any interest in whether the communists in
China are funneling money to our ex-president through a front group. Hillary
isn't asked about it, either.
A RECENT AIM REPORT NOTED THE THREAT TO THE U.S. FROM LATIN AMERICA,
INCLUDING the pro-communist Brazilian President Ignacio "Lula" da Silva.
Lula has since been in the White House talking trade with President Bush,
even as the July issue of The American Legion magazine was hitting homes
with an article by Paul Crespo entitled "The Other Axis of Evil"-on how the
leaders of Brazil, Cuba and Venezuela are collaborating in an anti-American
hub. This is an excellent treatment of the problem. Meantime, the Wall
Street Journal's Mary Anastasia O'Grady noted that Venezuelan President Hugo
Chavez's "most tenacious adversary," the decorated Venezuelan Army General
Enrique Medina Gomez, has been denied a visa by the U.S. State Department to
visit the U.S. on the grounds that he is suspected of involvement in
"terrorist activity." No evidence has been produced for this sensational
charge. The New York Times said the general's visa has been revoked because
he has called for the overthrow of Chavez. This is incredible. Chavez should
be overthrown. He is a threat to his own people, the hemisphere and the U.S.
Whose side is the State Department on?
Ray Fischer
>Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more significant
The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
>than her attempt to whitewash her own personal transformation from Goldwater
>girl to Marxist.
At least she's not a nazi like you, asshole heishman.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Osprey
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Osprey <NoNeed...@mail.com> wrote:
>>Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more
>>significant
>
> The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
Then you can explain why the Clintons went to great lengths to have her
senior thesis sealed from public view.
Ray Fischer
>>>Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more
>>>significant
>>
>> The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
>
>Then you can explain why the Clintons went to great lengths to have her
>senior thesis sealed from public view.
Explain why you haven't posted your tax returns. You must be stealing
from the government by evading taxes.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Osprey
> Osprey <NoNeed...@mail.com> wrote:
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> Osprey <NoNeed...@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more
>>>>significant
>>>
>>> The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
>>
>>Then you can explain why the Clintons went to great lengths to have her
>>senior thesis sealed from public view.
>
> Explain why you haven't posted your tax returns.
A college thesis is archived, available to be read by the public.
The Clinton's made sure Hillary's was sealed.
Explain it.
You must be stealing
> from the government by evading taxes.
It wouldn't be the first time you lied and made something up.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
james g. keegan jr.
rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> Osprey <NoNeed...@mail.com> wrote:
> >Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more significant
>
> The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
that's because he is under a lot pf pressure in other threads where
he got caught lying and had to run away from his lies. the hillary
post is just an inflammatory distraction.
--
get real. like jesus would ever own a gun or vote republican.
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:4689b2b6$0$14080$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> Osprey <NoNeed...@mail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Osprey <NoNeed...@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more
>>>>>significant
>>>>
>>>> The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
>>>
>>>Then you can explain why the Clintons went to great lengths to have her
>>>senior thesis sealed from public view.
>>
>> Explain why you haven't posted your tax returns.
>
>A college thesis is archived, available to be read by the public.
>
>The Clinton's made sure Hillary's was sealed.
>
>Explain it.
You explain it, Asshole.
>> You must be stealing
>> from the government by evading taxes.
>
>It wouldn't be the first time you lied and made something up.
I'm applying your standard of logic to you, Asshole.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
osprey
> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
> >"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> >news:4689b2b6$0$14080$742e...@news.sonic.net...
> >> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
> >>>"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> >>>> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more
> >>>>>significant
>
> >>>> The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
>
> >>>Then you can explain why the Clintons went to great lengths to have her
> >>>senior thesis sealed from public view.
>
> >> Explain why you haven't posted your tax returns.
>
> >A college thesis is archived, available to be read by the public.
>
> >The Clinton's made sure Hillary's was sealed.
>
> >Explain it.
>
> You explain it, Asshole.
She is YOUR icon, YOU explain it.
I'm just going to enjoy watching the fall out as this information
becomes more of a public issue.
Ray Fischer
> rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4689b2b6$0$14080$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> >> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >>>"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more
>> >>>>>significant
>>
>> >>>> The neocon asshole is resorting to the usual game of smear and lie.
>>
>> >>>Then you can explain why the Clintons went to great lengths to have her
>> >>>senior thesis sealed from public view.
>>
>> >> Explain why you haven't posted your tax returns.
>>
>> >A college thesis is archived, available to be read by the public.
>>
>> >The Clinton's made sure Hillary's was sealed.
>>
>> >Explain it.
>>
>> You explain it, Asshole.
>
>She is YOUR icon,
And Hitler is YOUR icon, Asshole?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
osprey
Careful, you're slowly coming up on a liability issue..:o)
james g. keegan jr.
osprey <noneed...@mail.com> wrote:
hitler us *your* icon, asshole.
Chris
How so, sport?
Chris
james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> In article <1183443088.1...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> osprey <noneed...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 3, 1:40 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> > > And Hitler is YOUR icon, Asshole?
> >
> > Careful, you're slowly coming up on a liability issue..:o)
>
> hitler us *your* icon, asshole.
So he is.
So, what's osprey going to do about it, Jim -- threaten to silence us
by having our posting privileges revoked? ;-)
Chris
> Of all the Hillary Clinton scandals and cover-ups, none is more significant...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism
The Chief Instigator
>james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> In article <1183443088.1...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>> osprey <noneed...@mail.com> wrote:
>> > On Jul 3, 1:40 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> > > And Hitler is YOUR icon, Asshole?
>> > Careful, you're slowly coming up on a liability issue..:o)
>> hitler us *your* icon, asshole.
>So he is.
>So, what's osprey going to do about it, Jim -- threaten to silence us
>by having our posting privileges revoked? ;-)
No, since his historic reaction is to comb criminal DBs to see if he can find
criminals with names similar to yours so he can "prove" you've been
convicted...
--
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LAST GAME: San Antonio 4, Houston 2 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: October 2007, date/place/opponent TBA
The Chief Instigator
>On Jul 3, 10:30 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:
>> No, since his historic reaction is to comb criminal DBs to see if he can
>> find criminals with names similar to yours so he can "prove" you've been
>> convicted...
>Patrick, me laddy, if he "combed" criminal DBs the way you comb IPs
>and posting data, he could find enough shit to put a 3 year old
>toddler in the slam for the rest of his life - maybe even put the kid
>on Death Row!
Ripping off Asian IPs again, Amanda? I'm almost surprised.
elizabeth
> Jail Patrick Fitzgerald <crocl...@guerrillamail.info> writes:
snippety doo dah
> Ripping off Asian IPs again, Amanda? I'm almost surprised.
A Man d'ah must be having a bad reaction to all the hormones he's
taking.
Cybertrannies are fascinating.
Chris
The Chief Instigator wrote:
> Chris <christ...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> >> In article <1183443088.1...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> osprey <noneed...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Jul 3, 1:40 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >> > > And Hitler is YOUR icon, Asshole?
>
> >> > Careful, you're slowly coming up on a liability issue..:o)
>
> >> hitler us *your* icon, asshole.
>
> >So he is.
>
> >So, what's osprey going to do about it, Jim -- threaten to silence us
> >by having our posting privileges revoked? ;-)
>
> No, since his historic reaction is to comb criminal DBs to see if he can find
> criminals with names similar to yours so he can "prove" you've been
> convicted...
That's AFTER the threats fail.
The Chief Instigator
Either that, or it's been supporting Colombia's economy more than usual.
>Cybertrannies are fascinating.
...and better off on remote islands.
The Chief Instigator
>The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Chris <christ...@yahoo.com> writes:
>> >james g. keegan jr. wrote:
>> >> In article <1183443088.1...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> osprey <noneed...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Jul 3, 1:40 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >> > > And Hitler is YOUR icon, Asshole?
>> >> > Careful, you're slowly coming up on a liability issue..:o)
>> >> hitler us *your* icon, asshole.
>> >So he is.
>> >So, what's osprey going to do about it, Jim -- threaten to silence us
>> >by having our posting privileges revoked? ;-)
>> No, since his historic reaction is to comb criminal DBs to see if he can
>> find criminals with names similar to yours so he can "prove" you've been
>> convicted...
>That's AFTER the threats fail.
Given his history, it's not a matter of *if* the threats fail - just when.
james g. keegan jr.
Chris <christ...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> > In article <1183443088.1...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> > osprey <noneed...@mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jul 3, 1:40 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> >
> > > > And Hitler is YOUR icon, Asshole?
> > >
> > > Careful, you're slowly coming up on a liability issue..:o)
> >
> > hitler us *your* icon, asshole.
>
> So he is.
>
> So, what's osprey going to do about it, Jim -- threaten to silence us
> by having our posting privileges revoked? ;-)
he's a coward. he'll threaten only if he is fairly sure he'll never
be in the same place as the person he threatened.
james g. keegan jr.
The Chief Instigator <pat...@eris.io.com> wrote:
> Chris <christ...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> >james g. keegan jr. wrote:
> >> In article <1183443088.1...@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> osprey <noneed...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Jul 3, 1:40 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>
> >> > > And Hitler is YOUR icon, Asshole?
>
> >> > Careful, you're slowly coming up on a liability issue..:o)
>
> >> hitler us *your* icon, asshole.
>
> >So he is.
>
> >So, what's osprey going to do about it, Jim -- threaten to silence us
> >by having our posting privileges revoked? ;-)
>
> No, since his historic reaction is to comb criminal DBs to see if he can find
> criminals with names similar to yours so he can "prove" you've been
> convicted...
interestingly, that despicable action is the action that defined
robert heishman (osprey).
james g. keegan jr.
Jail Patrick Fitzgerald <croc...@guerrillamail.info> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 10:30 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:
>
> > No, since his historic reaction is to comb criminal DBs to see if he can
> > find
> > criminals with names similar to yours so he can "prove" you've been
> > convicted...
>
> Patrick, me laddy, if he "combed" criminal DBs the way you comb IPs
> and posting data, he could find enough shit to put a 3 year old
> toddler in the slam for the rest of his life - maybe even put the kid
> on Death Row!
welcome back amanda/cleo/marie/sockpuppet. did they let you out for
the holiday? you will be supervised, will you not?
The Chief Instigator
>On Jul 3, 10:52 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:
>> Jail Patrick Fitzgerald <crocl...@guerrillamail.info> writes:
>> >On Jul 3, 10:30 am, The Chief Instigator <patr...@eris.io.com> wrote:
>> >> No, since his historic reaction is to comb criminal DBs to see if he can
>> >> find criminals with names similar to yours so he can "prove" you've been
>> >> convicted...
>> >Patrick, me laddy, if he "combed" criminal DBs the way you comb IPs
>> >and posting data, he could find enough shit to put a 3 year old
>> >toddler in the slam for the rest of his life - maybe even put the kid
>> >on Death Row!
>> Ripping off Asian IPs again, Amanda? I'm almost surprised.
>Ya know, you're right, Gramps. Think I'll try some Russian servers.
>How's this one?
Doesn't matter, Amanda - your'e the consummate attention whore. (You won't be
getting paid by me.)
The Chief Instigator
>> So he is.
...and he claimed to have a sister here in Houston, but despite knowing where
I am, when he allegedly came to town he never got near where Dale and I were.
(Maybe we should rechristen him "Iraqi Bob".)
The Chief Instigator
>> Chris <christ...@yahoo.com> writes:
>> >So he is.
He's been working on making himself look respectable, but couldn't hack that
very well, since his "college" degree is from an institution that doesn't even
require SATs (or other standard tests used by real colleges) or any other
qualifications except having the money, and he didn't spend any four years
getting it, either.