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W.T.S.
Jan 28, 2013, 4:52:58 AM1/28/13
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Devils Advocaat
Jan 28, 2013, 4:59:48 AM1/28/13
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On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> The Catholic Church will never change!
Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> The Catholic Church will never change!
duke
Jan 28, 2013, 6:48:37 AM1/28/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
The dukester, American - American
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objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
The dukester, American - American
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You can't fix stupid.
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Jan 28, 2013, 9:54:48 AM1/28/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Seems to me he was too arrogant in thinking his cover up would never
be uncovered.
On the one hand he wants to be "doing something" (however ineffective
he believes it to be) to be able to say he's handling things, on the
other hand he can't let the cat out.
Seems to me, the priests confession to his psychiatrist would also be
privileged speech and not likely to become public knowledge, so
Mahony's actions were wrong on that level too.
Cover ups are always worse than the crimes. Mahoney is just as guilty
as the priests and church he was protecting. Complicit and part of
the crime himself.
wrote:
Seems to me he was too arrogant in thinking his cover up would never
be uncovered.
On the one hand he wants to be "doing something" (however ineffective
he believes it to be) to be able to say he's handling things, on the
other hand he can't let the cat out.
Seems to me, the priests confession to his psychiatrist would also be
privileged speech and not likely to become public knowledge, so
Mahony's actions were wrong on that level too.
Cover ups are always worse than the crimes. Mahoney is just as guilty
as the priests and church he was protecting. Complicit and part of
the crime himself.
Freedom Man
Jan 28, 2013, 1:16:25 PM1/28/13
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See what RELIGION does to peoples' minds?
Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still torture and
kill each other over ancient myths and superstitions.
"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely kind
intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl Popper
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
--- Robert M. Pirsig
Either God wants to abolish evil and cannot, or he can but does not want to.
If he wants to but cannot he is impotent. If he can but does not want to, he
is wicked. If he neither can nor wants to, then he is both powerless and
wicked.
--- Epicurus, Greek philosopher, circa 300 B.C.
"Act of God" disasters like the Japanese earthquake expose the myth. Either
God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn't care to, or
he doesn't exist. He is thus either impotent, evil, or imaginary.
--- CNN Belief Blog, 3-20-11
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and
evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
takes religion."
--- Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
and by rulers as useful."
--- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)
"Religion once ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages." --- Ruth
Green.
"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." ---
Victor Stenger.
"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." ---
Clarence Darrow
"As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of
religion." --- Butterfly McQueen
"Religion was invented when the first con-man met the first fool." - Mark
Twain
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." --- Mark Twain
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in
all fiction." --- Richard Dawkins
"Cult today, religion tomorrow."
The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
The Secular Coalition for America: www.secular.org
Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
www.infidels.org
www.humaniststudies.org
www.atheistalliance.org
www.americanhumanist.org
Adults no longer believe in the Tooth Fairy - but they still torture and
kill each other over ancient myths and superstitions.
"We all remember how many religious wars were fought for a religion of love
and gentleness; how many bodies were burned alive with the genuinely kind
intention of saving souls from the eternal fire of hell." --- Karl Popper
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many
people suffer from a delusion, it is called Religion."
--- Robert M. Pirsig
Either God wants to abolish evil and cannot, or he can but does not want to.
If he wants to but cannot he is impotent. If he can but does not want to, he
is wicked. If he neither can nor wants to, then he is both powerless and
wicked.
--- Epicurus, Greek philosopher, circa 300 B.C.
"Act of God" disasters like the Japanese earthquake expose the myth. Either
God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn't care to, or
he doesn't exist. He is thus either impotent, evil, or imaginary.
--- CNN Belief Blog, 3-20-11
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and
evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that
takes religion."
--- Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false,
and by rulers as useful."
--- Seneca the Younger (4? BC - 65 AD)
"Religion once ruled the world. It was called the Dark Ages." --- Ruth
Green.
"Science flies you to the moon. Religion flies you into buildings." ---
Victor Stenger.
"I don't believe in God because I don't believe in Mother Goose." ---
Clarence Darrow
"As my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of
religion." --- Butterfly McQueen
"Religion was invented when the first con-man met the first fool." - Mark
Twain
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so." --- Mark Twain
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in
all fiction." --- Richard Dawkins
"Cult today, religion tomorrow."
The Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/
The Secular Coalition for America: www.secular.org
Secular Student Alliance: www.secularstudents.org
www.infidels.org
www.humaniststudies.org
www.atheistalliance.org
www.americanhumanist.org
Silen...@hotmail.com
Jan 28, 2013, 1:24:07 PM1/28/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>
>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>
>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
he was doing, Dook.
He was covering up crimes to spare the Catholic Church embarrassment
and law suits.
>The rest of us know that the
>objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
Cardinal Mahony�s, not truth, Dook.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
Andrew W
Jan 28, 2013, 3:38:16 PM1/28/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
--
Religions breed hypocrisy and self-righteousness.
Many Christians spend more time looking down on other people than up
towards Christ.
news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>
>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>
>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
--
Religions breed hypocrisy and self-righteousness.
Many Christians spend more time looking down on other people than up
towards Christ.
J
Jan 28, 2013, 6:27:27 PM1/28/13
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The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a vetting
process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
'Catch-22'.
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
'Catch-22'.
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
Jeanne Douglas
Jan 28, 2013, 8:49:53 PM1/28/13
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In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are, they
will be unable to solve the problem.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
will be unable to solve the problem.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
Dakota
Jan 28, 2013, 10:07:38 PM1/28/13
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pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
it will continue its well justified decline.
Devils Advocaat
Jan 28, 2013, 10:50:08 PM1/28/13
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On 28 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>
> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
I was referring to the poster's subject line not the news item.
>
> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>
> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
J
Jan 28, 2013, 11:01:27 PM1/28/13
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Jeanne Douglas
Jan 28, 2013, 11:51:53 PM1/28/13
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In article <a9ieg85l7rumldu35...@4ax.com>,
you, they will NEVER end the abuse.
J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
> > J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
> >> >
> >> >The Catholic Church will never change!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a vetting
> >> process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
> >> men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
> >> present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
> >> 'Catch-22'.
> >
> >As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are, they
> >will be unable to solve the problem.
>
>
>
> Exactly. Weed-out the gays and there'll be no problem.
I see you haven't learned the proper lesson. If the Church agrees with
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
> > J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
> >> >
> >> >The Catholic Church will never change!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a vetting
> >> process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
> >> men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
> >> present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
> >> 'Catch-22'.
> >
> >As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are, they
> >will be unable to solve the problem.
>
>
>
> Exactly. Weed-out the gays and there'll be no problem.
you, they will NEVER end the abuse.
J
Jan 29, 2013, 12:32:20 AM1/29/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:51:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
that society will be plagued with. Gays do not hold a monopoly of the
abusers but they do possess a significant proportion of the perverts.
One only need to read the news acccounts of the male-on-male abuse
that occurrs in the RCC, BSA, and many boys sporting events to see
these are not fabricated rantings of moral activists. Keepingn gays
away from young teenage boys will reduce these incidents 10 fold.
Shouldn;t the rights of these young boys supercede that the rights of
gays to have accesss to them?
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
<hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>In article <a9ieg85l7rumldu35...@4ax.com>,
> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>> > J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>> >> >
>> >> >The Catholic Church will never change!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a vetting
>> >> process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
>> >> men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
>> >> present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
>> >> 'Catch-22'.
>> >
>> >As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are, they
>> >will be unable to solve the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exactly. Weed-out the gays and there'll be no problem.
>
>I see you haven't learned the proper lesson. If the Church agrees with
>you, they will NEVER end the abuse.
Sexual abuse of children always has been and always will be an issue
>In article <a9ieg85l7rumldu35...@4ax.com>,
> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas
>> <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>> > J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>> >> >
>> >> >The Catholic Church will never change!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a vetting
>> >> process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
>> >> men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
>> >> present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
>> >> 'Catch-22'.
>> >
>> >As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are, they
>> >will be unable to solve the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Exactly. Weed-out the gays and there'll be no problem.
>
>I see you haven't learned the proper lesson. If the Church agrees with
>you, they will NEVER end the abuse.
that society will be plagued with. Gays do not hold a monopoly of the
abusers but they do possess a significant proportion of the perverts.
One only need to read the news acccounts of the male-on-male abuse
that occurrs in the RCC, BSA, and many boys sporting events to see
these are not fabricated rantings of moral activists. Keepingn gays
away from young teenage boys will reduce these incidents 10 fold.
Shouldn;t the rights of these young boys supercede that the rights of
gays to have accesss to them?
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com
Jeanne Douglas
Jan 29, 2013, 1:19:25 AM1/29/13
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Ben Kaufman
Jan 29, 2013, 1:38:24 AM1/29/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
wrote:
Andrew W
Jan 29, 2013, 3:17:22 AM1/29/13
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Kenny McCormack
Jan 29, 2013, 5:56:02 AM1/29/13
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...
primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
will be left of the priesthood?
That is pretty much it - that is why people enter (if you will pardon the
phrase) the priesthood.
--
"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion
that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender
Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know
is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic
statements?
Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business
in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say:
that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that
corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except
their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they
don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ...
>Exactly. Weed-out the gays and there'll be no problem.
If you weed out the pervs who like to rape children (of both sexes, but
primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
will be left of the priesthood?
That is pretty much it - that is why people enter (if you will pardon the
phrase) the priesthood.
--
"The anti-regulation business ethos is based on the charmingly naive notion
that people will not do unspeakable things for money." - Dana Carpender
Quoted by Paul Ciszek (pciszek at panix dot com). But what I want to know
is why is this diet/low-carb food author doing making pithy political/economic
statements?
Nevertheless, the above quote is dead-on, because, the thing is - business
in one breath tells us they don't need to be regulated (which is to say:
that they can morally self-regulate), then in the next breath tells us that
corporations are amoral entities which have no obligations to anyone except
their officers and shareholders, then in the next breath they tell us they
don't need to be regulated (that they can morally self-regulate) ...
duke
Jan 29, 2013, 6:45:31 AM1/29/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>
>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>
>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>
>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>he was doing, Dook.
Wanker is not the Cardinal. And yes, the Cardinal knew exactly what he was
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>
>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>
>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>
>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>he was doing, Dook.
doing. And guess what - you don't.
>He was covering up crimes to spare the Catholic Church embarrassment
>and law suits.
pedophilia.
>>The rest of us know that the
>>objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>What the rest of us know is that -your- objective is the same as
>Cardinal Mahony’s, not truth, Dook.
duke
Jan 29, 2013, 6:46:09 AM1/29/13
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>
>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>
>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
Answered.
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>
>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>
>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
duke
Jan 29, 2013, 6:48:04 AM1/29/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:50:08 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On 28 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>
>> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
>> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
>I was referring to the poster's subject line not the news item.
You'll need to explain that comment.
wrote:
>On 28 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>
>> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
>> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
>I was referring to the poster's subject line not the news item.
duke
Jan 29, 2013, 6:50:21 AM1/29/13
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
wrote:
wrote:
answering - I already know what a blank you are. You really, really need to
undertake a learning process and bring yourself up to 2013 standards.
duke
Jan 29, 2013, 6:50:50 AM1/29/13
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duke
Jan 29, 2013, 6:52:12 AM1/29/13
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:56:02 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com (Kenny
McCormack) wrote:
>In article <a9ieg85l7rumldu35...@4ax.com>,
>J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>...
>>Exactly. Weed-out the gays and there'll be no problem.
>
>If you weed out the pervs who like to rape children (of both sexes, but
>primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
>will be left of the priesthood?
The 9998:1 who were never involved.
McCormack) wrote:
>In article <a9ieg85l7rumldu35...@4ax.com>,
>J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>...
>>Exactly. Weed-out the gays and there'll be no problem.
>
>If you weed out the pervs who like to rape children (of both sexes, but
>primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
>will be left of the priesthood?
>That is pretty much it - that is why people enter (if you will pardon the
>phrase) the priesthood.
Alan Ferris
Jan 29, 2013, 1:13:08 PM1/29/13
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:52:12 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>If you weed out the pervs who like to rape children (of both sexes, but
>>primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
>>will be left of the priesthood?
>
>The 9998:1 who were never involved.
But covered up for those that did.
>>If you weed out the pervs who like to rape children (of both sexes, but
>>primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
>>will be left of the priesthood?
>
>The 9998:1 who were never involved.
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Jeanne Douglas
Jan 29, 2013, 3:04:16 PM1/29/13
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In article <894gg811blikmivhp...@4ax.com>,
Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:52:12 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>If you weed out the pervs who like to rape children (of both sexes, but
> >>primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
> >>will be left of the priesthood?
> >
> >The 9998:1 who were never involved.
>
> But covered up for those that did.
Which makes them just as guilty.
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:52:12 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>If you weed out the pervs who like to rape children (of both sexes, but
> >>primarily boys, since that's the vast majority of what is available), what
> >>will be left of the priesthood?
> >
> >The 9998:1 who were never involved.
>
> But covered up for those that did.
Andrew W
Jan 29, 2013, 3:10:46 PM1/29/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>
>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>
>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>
> Answered.
>
Not answered.
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>
>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>
>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>
> Answered.
>
You don't know.
Andrew W
Jan 29, 2013, 3:12:32 PM1/29/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8sdfg8l3vs33s1v9f...@4ax.com
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:07:38 -0600, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/28/2013 7:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>>> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a
>>>> vetting process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their
>>>> ranks. Straight men do not have sex with young males, gays do.
>>>> This, of course, will present itself with all sorts of legal
>>>> ramifications. It's a 'Catch-22'.
>>>
>>> As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are,
>>> they will be unable to solve the problem.
>>>
>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>
> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>
The only thing massive is your head and their heads.
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/28/2013 7:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>> In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>>> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a
>>>> vetting process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their
>>>> ranks. Straight men do not have sex with young males, gays do.
>>>> This, of course, will present itself with all sorts of legal
>>>> ramifications. It's a 'Catch-22'.
>>>
>>> As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are,
>>> they will be unable to solve the problem.
>>>
>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>
> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>
Silen...@hotmail.com
Jan 29, 2013, 9:21:54 PM1/29/13
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>
>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>
>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>
>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>he was doing, Dook.
>
>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>
>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>
>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>
>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>
>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>he was doing, Dook.
>
>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>And yes, the Cardinal knew exactly what he was
>doing. And guess what - you don't.
He was covering up crimes to protect the Catholic Church.
Neither is he the only Catholic in a position of authority within the
Church to do so.
>>He was covering up crimes to spare the Catholic Church embarrassment
>>and law suits.
>
>How do you know?
facilitated a cover up.
>I can just as easily say you participated in coverups of
>pedophilia.
But, that would be a -lie- that's completely unsupported by any
evidence, Dook.
When one says that Cardinal Mahony covered up pedophilia, there's
plenty of evidence that he did so and it's -not- a lie..
See the difference, Dook?
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
>
duke
Jan 30, 2013, 7:18:32 AM1/30/13
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>
>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>
>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>
>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>
>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>
>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>
>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>>And yes, the Cardinal knew exactly what he was
>>doing. And guess what - you don't.
>I think I do, Dook.
>He was covering up crimes to protect the Catholic Church.
>Neither is he the only Catholic in a position of authority within the
>Church to do so.
silent, I know things you can't even begin to comprehend.
>>>He was covering up crimes to spare the Catholic Church embarrassment
>>>and law suits.
>>How do you know?
>By the documents that were discovered and published which reveal he
>facilitated a cover up.
duke
Jan 30, 2013, 7:20:39 AM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:10:46 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:kjdfg8l5pfrl12261...@4ax.com
>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>
>>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>>
>>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>>
>> Answered.
>Not answered.
>You don't know.
You're too intellectually challenged to understand.
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:kjdfg8l5pfrl12261...@4ax.com
>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>
>>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>>
>>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>>
>> Answered.
>Not answered.
>You don't know.
duke
Jan 30, 2013, 7:21:21 AM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:12:32 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:8sdfg8l3vs33s1v9f...@4ax.com
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:07:38 -0600, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/28/2013 7:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>>>> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a
>>>>> vetting process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their
>>>>> ranks. Straight men do not have sex with young males, gays do.
>>>>> This, of course, will present itself with all sorts of legal
>>>>> ramifications. It's a 'Catch-22'.
>>>>
>>>> As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are,
>>>> they will be unable to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>>
>> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>The only thing massive is your head and their heads.
With that comment, your ass is certainly massive.
wrote:
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:8sdfg8l3vs33s1v9f...@4ax.com
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:07:38 -0600, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/28/2013 7:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>>>> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a
>>>>> vetting process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their
>>>>> ranks. Straight men do not have sex with young males, gays do.
>>>>> This, of course, will present itself with all sorts of legal
>>>>> ramifications. It's a 'Catch-22'.
>>>>
>>>> As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are,
>>>> they will be unable to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>>
>> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>The only thing massive is your head and their heads.
thomas p.
Jan 30, 2013, 7:23:56 AM1/30/13
to
"Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> skrev i meddelelsen
news:ke9afl$jo9$1...@dont-email.me...
goat and to completely ignore the cynicism and cowardice that made possible
the cover-up in the first place, a cover-up that continues to this day. The
result being that the Church continues to lose credibility, respect and
membership.
>
>
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
news:ke9afl$jo9$1...@dont-email.me...
> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:8sdfg8l3vs33s1v9f...@4ax.com
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:07:38 -0600, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/28/2013 7:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>>>> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a
>>>>> vetting process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their
>>>>> ranks. Straight men do not have sex with young males, gays do.
>>>>> This, of course, will present itself with all sorts of legal
>>>>> ramifications. It's a 'Catch-22'.
>>>>
>>>> As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are,
>>>> they will be unable to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>>
>> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>>
>
> The only thing massive is your head and their heads.
The "massive changes" amounts to an attempt to use homosexuality as a scape
> news:8sdfg8l3vs33s1v9f...@4ax.com
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:07:38 -0600, Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/28/2013 7:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>>> In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
>>>> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a
>>>>> vetting process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their
>>>>> ranks. Straight men do not have sex with young males, gays do.
>>>>> This, of course, will present itself with all sorts of legal
>>>>> ramifications. It's a 'Catch-22'.
>>>>
>>>> As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are,
>>>> they will be unable to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>>
>> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>>
>
> The only thing massive is your head and their heads.
goat and to completely ignore the cynicism and cowardice that made possible
the cover-up in the first place, a cover-up that continues to this day. The
result being that the Church continues to lose credibility, respect and
membership.
>
>
--
thomas p
Ignorance is the mother of devotion.
David Hume
Andrew W
Jan 30, 2013, 3:50:30 PM1/30/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:10:46 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:kjdfg8l5pfrl12261...@4ax.com
>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>>>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>>>
>>>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>>>
>>> Answered.
>
>> Not answered.
>> You don't know.
>
> You're too intellectually challenged to understand.
>
You didn't even answer the question ya spastic!
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:kjdfg8l5pfrl12261...@4ax.com
>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>>>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>>>
>>>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>>>
>>> Answered.
>
>> Not answered.
>> You don't know.
>
> You're too intellectually challenged to understand.
>
Silen...@hotmail.com
Jan 30, 2013, 8:17:35 PM1/30/13
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:18:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>
>>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>
>>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>>
>>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>
>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>
>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
Yes, he is.
>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>
>>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>
>>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>>
>>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>
>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>
>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
>>>And yes, the Cardinal knew exactly what he was
>>>doing. And guess what - you don't.
>>I think I do, Dook.
>
>I know you don't.
>>He was covering up crimes to protect the Catholic Church.
>
>No evidence. No witnesses. Just keep showing your ass, silent.
>>Neither is he the only Catholic in a position of authority within the
>>Church to do so.
>
>The DA tells the Cardinal he an't do anything without a filed complaint.
That means that the DA could have any level of evidence up to and
including a confession signed in blood and the DA -still- wouldn't be
able to prosecute.
That doesn't mean a crime didn't occur.
You're not too bright, are you, Dook?
>See,
>silent, I know things you can't even begin to comprehend.
And, as I'm already aware of your capacity for lying and obfuscation,
you'd have to do far more to demonstrate what you know than make a
simple assertion of knowledge.
>>>>He was covering up crimes to spare the Catholic Church embarrassment
>>>>and law suits.
>>>How do you know?
>>By the documents that were discovered and published which reveal he
>>facilitated a cover up.
>
>What documents? The DA won't and CAN'T accept hearsay nonsense.
You said so above.
That's not the same as saying that the documents that detail the
cover-up aren't evidence.
The Catholic Church is a corrupt, venal organization, and is only
being defended by corrupt, venal Catholics.
Like you, Dook.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
>
The Echo Chamber
Jan 30, 2013, 8:53:23 PM1/30/13
to
On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:20:39 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:10:46 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:kjdfg8l5pfrl12261...@4ax.com
>
> >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
>
> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> >>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>
> >>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>
> >>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>
> >>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
> >>
>
> >>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>
> >>
>
> >> Answered.
>
>
>
> >Not answered.
>
> >You don't know.
>
>
>
> You're too intellectually challenged to understand.
>
Says dookie, the brainwashed roman catlick...
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:10:46 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:kjdfg8l5pfrl12261...@4ax.com
>
> >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 07:38:16 +1100, "Andrew W"
>
> >> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> "duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> >>> news:n9pcg8h7en0r6gu2l...@4ax.com
>
> >>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>
> >>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know
>
> >>>> that the objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
> >>
>
> >>> Why would the news media want to blacken the name of the church?
>
> >>
>
> >> Answered.
>
>
>
> >Not answered.
>
> >You don't know.
>
>
>
> You're too intellectually challenged to understand.
>
The Echo Chamber
Jan 30, 2013, 8:55:29 PM1/30/13
to
duke
Jan 31, 2013, 7:43:38 AM1/31/13
to
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:17:35 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:18:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>Yes, he is.
>He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
The house has been cleaned.
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:18:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>Yes, he is.
>He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
duke
Jan 31, 2013, 7:44:44 AM1/31/13
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 07:50:30 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
Gotcha. Take a deep breath. You might figure it out.
duke
Jan 31, 2013, 7:46:03 AM1/31/13
to
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:23:56 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>>>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>>>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>>>
>>> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>>>
>>
>> The only thing massive is your head and their heads.
>The "massive changes" amounts to an attempt to use homosexuality as a scape
>goat and to completely ignore the cynicism and cowardice that made possible
>the cover-up in the first place, a cover-up that contin2ues to this day. The
>>>> Until the RCC becomes more concerned about children who are raped by
>>>> pedopriests than about protecting its image by concealing the rapes,
>>>> it will continue its well justified decline.
>>>
>>> Massive changes have already been implemented.
>>>
>>
>> The only thing massive is your head and their heads.
>The "massive changes" amounts to an attempt to use homosexuality as a scape
>goat and to completely ignore the cynicism and cowardice that made possible
>result being that the Church continues to lose credibility, respect and
>membership.
The last thing we need to worry about is your vile comments that reflect
>membership.
complete ignorance of what has taken place.
Alan Ferris
Jan 31, 2013, 2:02:13 PM1/31/13
to
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:43:38 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>>>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>>Yes, he is.
>>He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
>
>The house has been cleaned.
L.A. church leaders sought to hide sex abuse cases from authorities
>>>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>>>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>>Yes, he is.
>>He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
>
>The house has been cleaned.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-church-files-20130122,0,3114631.story?track=lanowpicks
Documents from the late 1980s show that Archbishop Roger M. Mahony and another
archdiocese official discussed strategies to keep police from discovering that
children were being sexually abused by priests.
•RLMeasures
Jan 31, 2013, 2:45:23 PM1/31/13
to
In article <osflg89c5i4muu0vg...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
• Does it make any sense that "God's Holy Church" would abet men who
stumble children?
stumble children?
Andrew W
Jan 31, 2013, 4:37:35 PM1/31/13
to
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:nlpkg8da58utuj0fo...@4ax.com
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:17:35 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:18:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>>>>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly-
>>>>>> what he was doing, Dook.
>>>>> Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>
>>>> I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a
>>>> Cardinal.
>>> No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>> Yes, he is.
>> He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
>
> The house has been cleaned.
>
Rubbish.
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:18:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat
>>>>>>> <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly-
>>>>>> what he was doing, Dook.
>>>>> Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>
>>>> I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a
>>>> Cardinal.
>>> No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>> Yes, he is.
>> He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
>
> The house has been cleaned.
>
You obviously haven't been reading the news.
The court cases just keep coming.
Andrew W
Jan 31, 2013, 4:40:46 PM1/31/13
to
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:7opkg89ph4aeuh7cp...@4ax.com
Ah, I see. This is a guessing game.
GabeA...@woh.rr.com
Jan 31, 2013, 4:51:51 PM1/31/13
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Say.... in the last 10 years?
Andrew W
Jan 31, 2013, 5:25:23 PM1/31/13
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<GabeA...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
news:jpplg8lned417i46d...@4ax.com
Sure, no problem.
http://tinyurl.com/advao7c
Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that the
house has been cleaned is false.
news:jpplg8lned417i46d...@4ax.com
http://tinyurl.com/advao7c
Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that the
house has been cleaned is false.
Devils Advocaat
Feb 1, 2013, 12:40:41 AM2/1/13
to
On 29 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:50:08 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 28 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
>
> You'll need to explain that comment.
Why? It should be clear enough.
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:50:08 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 28 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> >> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>
> >> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
>
> >> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>
> >> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>
> >> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>
> >> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
> >> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
> >I was referring to the poster's subject line not the news item.
> >> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>
>
> You'll need to explain that comment.
Why? It should be clear enough.
Les
Feb 1, 2013, 3:52:33 AM2/1/13
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:25:23 +1100, "Andrew W"
I think he means 'cleaned of all evidence'.
All nicely washed and scrubbed away.
Les Hellawell
Greeting from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
"For the assertion that “There is no God” is just as much a claim to
knowledge as is the assertion that “There is a God.” Therefore, the
former assertion requires justification just as the latter does. "
- William Lane Craig, "Reasonable Faith"
All nicely washed and scrubbed away.
Les Hellawell
Greeting from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
"For the assertion that “There is no God” is just as much a claim to
knowledge as is the assertion that “There is a God.” Therefore, the
former assertion requires justification just as the latter does. "
- William Lane Craig, "Reasonable Faith"
Jeanne Douglas
Feb 1, 2013, 4:36:14 AM2/1/13
to
In article <8c0ng8tdk7f0jo8ko...@4ax.com>,
Not so much anymore, thank goodness:
<http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/01/cardinal-mahony-stripped-o
f-public-church-duties-amid-priest-abuse-.html>
<http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/01/cardinal-mahony-stripped-o
f-public-church-duties-amid-priest-abuse-.html>
Silen...@hotmail.com
Feb 1, 2013, 5:48:48 AM2/1/13
to
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:43:38 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:17:35 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:18:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>>>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>
>>>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>>>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>>Yes, he is.
>>He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
Otto's Law: The rightardedness of a rightard is in direct proportion
>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 20:17:35 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:18:32 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:21:54 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:45:31 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:24:07 -0500, Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 05:48:37 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think the wanker, in this case Cardinal Mahony, knew -exactly- what
>>>>>>he was doing, Dook.
>>>>>Wanker is not the Cardinal.
>
>>>>I think that the wanker in this matter is most definitely a Cardinal.
>>>No, wanker is not a Cardinal.
>>Yes, he is.
>>He's a wanker that was protecting pedophiles.
to how much they snip.
You rightards think snipping a point makes it go away, when really it
means that you've lost.
>The house has been cleaned.
wanker for covering up the sexual abuse of children by Catholic
priests, Dook.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
>
>
duke
Feb 1, 2013, 6:42:41 AM2/1/13
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duke
Feb 1, 2013, 6:43:59 AM2/1/13
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of it all happened 10 years later.
duke
Feb 1, 2013, 6:46:02 AM2/1/13
to
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:25:23 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
The house has been cleaned, dingbat. The last known case of pedophilia occurred
20 years ago, thanks to Pope Benedict formerly Cardinal Ratzinger.
20 years ago, thanks to Pope Benedict formerly Cardinal Ratzinger.
duke
Feb 1, 2013, 6:47:52 AM2/1/13
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:40:46 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
No, you don't see. You totally missed the answer.
duke
Feb 1, 2013, 6:49:33 AM2/1/13
to
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 21:40:41 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On 29 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:50:08 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 28 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>
>> >> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>> >> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>> >> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
>> >> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>>
>> >I was referring to the poster's subject line not the news item.
>>
>> You'll need to explain that comment.
>
>Why? It should be clear enough.
It isn't.
wrote:
>On 29 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:50:08 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 28 Jan, 11:48, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:59:48 -0800 (PST), Devils Advocaat <mankygo...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >On 28 Jan, 09:52, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> >>http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
>>
>> >> >> The Catholic Church will never change!
>>
>> >> >Are you blaming the laity for the behaviour of the church?
>>
>> >> Wanker doesn't know what he/she/it is doing. The rest of us know that the
>> >> objective of the news media is to sell papers, not truth.
>>
>> >I was referring to the poster's subject line not the news item.
>>
>> You'll need to explain that comment.
>
>Why? It should be clear enough.
Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 7:03:37 AM2/1/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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been trying to keep it hushed all along.
If they hadn't reported them then those priests would still be in the
seminaries.
Until all the cases are settled and the priests are all dealt with the house
is not clean.
Why can't you face this?
Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 7:07:06 AM2/1/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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There are cases going to court almost every day.
Check the news and pull your head out of your rear.
Patrick
Feb 1, 2013, 2:40:24 PM2/1/13
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>> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:37:35 +1100, "Andrew W"
>>>> The house has been cleaned.
>>>
>>> Rubbish.
>>> You obviously haven't been reading the news.
>>> The court cases just keep coming.
>>
>> Can you provide any examples?
>> Say.... in the last 10 years?
>>
>
>Sure, no problem.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/advao7c
>Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that the
>house has been cleaned is false.
The acts themselves are 50 years old.
>>>
>>> Rubbish.
>>> You obviously haven't been reading the news.
>>> The court cases just keep coming.
>>
>> Can you provide any examples?
>> Say.... in the last 10 years?
>>
>
>Sure, no problem.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/advao7c
>Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that the
>house has been cleaned is false.
The house has been cleaned.
Now, the whiners are searching around for their 30 pieces of silver.
You can only whine so long. Most of the abusers died years ago.
Soon, the abusees will be dead.
Then what will you whine about?
Patrick
Feb 1, 2013, 2:42:05 PM2/1/13
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We have cleaned house on you.
Now we are merely paying the consequences for allowing you fags into
the church in the first place. Big Mistake. But, we learned.
Patrick
Feb 1, 2013, 2:44:15 PM2/1/13
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Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>The house has been cleaned.
>
>Even were that true, which it isn't, Cardinal Mahony is -still- a
>wanker for covering up the sexual abuse of children by Catholic
>priests, Dook.
Prove it.
>
>>The house has been cleaned.
>
>Even were that true, which it isn't, Cardinal Mahony is -still- a
>wanker for covering up the sexual abuse of children by Catholic
>priests, Dook.
With evidence.
Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
I didn't hear you!
duke
Feb 1, 2013, 3:12:55 PM2/1/13
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:03:37 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:
>>> Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>>> But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that
>>> the house has been cleaned is false.
>>
>> The house has been cleaned, dingbat. The last known case of
>> pedophilia occurred 20 years ago, thanks to Pope Benedict formerly
>> Cardinal Ratzinger.
>Huh? No.
Huh? Yes.
>Thanks to the now grown up victims who reported them. The Pope has
>been trying to keep it hushed all along.
By the early 1980's, the news cases dropped precipitously off. You wasn't even
born yet when the cases were well being corrected.
>If they hadn't reported them then those priests would still be in the
>seminaries.
Most were long gone before the public even know much about it.
>Until all the cases are settled and the priests are all dealt with the house
>is not clean.
>Why can't you face this?
Becasue they are gone.
wrote:
>>> Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>>> But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that
>>> the house has been cleaned is false.
>>
>> The house has been cleaned, dingbat. The last known case of
>> pedophilia occurred 20 years ago, thanks to Pope Benedict formerly
>> Cardinal Ratzinger.
>Huh? No.
>Thanks to the now grown up victims who reported them. The Pope has
>been trying to keep it hushed all along.
born yet when the cases were well being corrected.
>If they hadn't reported them then those priests would still be in the
>seminaries.
>Until all the cases are settled and the priests are all dealt with the house
>is not clean.
>Why can't you face this?
duke
Feb 1, 2013, 3:13:51 PM2/1/13
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:07:06 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
Where?
>Check the news and pull your head out of your rear.
That's your head up there. I can feel the point on it.
>Check the news and pull your head out of your rear.
Silen...@hotmail.com
Feb 1, 2013, 3:21:06 PM2/1/13
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:44:15 -0500, Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>
wrote:
> Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>
>>>The house has been cleaned.
>>
>>Even were that true, which it isn't, Cardinal Mahony is -still- a
>>wanker for covering up the sexual abuse of children by Catholic
>>priests, Dook.
>
>Prove it.
The documents referenced in the article prove it.
>With evidence.
The documents referenced in the article are the evidence.
>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
Really, rightard...
It's not that complicated.
Only corrupt, venal Catholics, like you, defend the Catholic Church
for covering up sexual assaults.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
wrote:
> Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>
>>>The house has been cleaned.
>>
>>Even were that true, which it isn't, Cardinal Mahony is -still- a
>>wanker for covering up the sexual abuse of children by Catholic
>>priests, Dook.
>
>Prove it.
>With evidence.
The documents referenced in the article are the evidence.
>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
Really, rightard...
It's not that complicated.
Only corrupt, venal Catholics, like you, defend the Catholic Church
for covering up sexual assaults.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 5:12:35 PM2/1/13
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"Patrick" <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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It sounds like you think that we're all former Catholic priests.
Lol.
news:qh6og89nk0edd8g5l...@4ax.com
Lol.
Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 5:15:58 PM2/1/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 23:03:37 +1100, "Andrew W"
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>> Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>>>> But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that
>>>> the house has been cleaned is false.
>>>
>>> The house has been cleaned, dingbat. The last known case of
>>> pedophilia occurred 20 years ago, thanks to Pope Benedict formerly
>>> Cardinal Ratzinger.
>
>> Huh? No.
>
> Huh? Yes.
>
>> Thanks to the now grown up victims who reported them. The Pope has
>> been trying to keep it hushed all along.
>
> By the early 1980's, the news cases dropped precipitously off. You
> wasn't even born yet when the cases were well being corrected.
>
>> If they hadn't reported them then those priests would still be in the
>> seminaries.
>
> Most were long gone before the public even know much about it.
>
>> Until all the cases are settled and the priests are all dealt with
>> the house is not clean.
>> Why can't you face this?
>
> Becasue they are gone.
>
Read here.
> <remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>> Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>>>> But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that
>>>> the house has been cleaned is false.
>>>
>>> The house has been cleaned, dingbat. The last known case of
>>> pedophilia occurred 20 years ago, thanks to Pope Benedict formerly
>>> Cardinal Ratzinger.
>
>> Huh? No.
>
> Huh? Yes.
>
>> Thanks to the now grown up victims who reported them. The Pope has
>> been trying to keep it hushed all along.
>
> By the early 1980's, the news cases dropped precipitously off. You
> wasn't even born yet when the cases were well being corrected.
>
>> If they hadn't reported them then those priests would still be in the
>> seminaries.
>
> Most were long gone before the public even know much about it.
>
>> Until all the cases are settled and the priests are all dealt with
>> the house is not clean.
>> Why can't you face this?
>
> Becasue they are gone.
>
http://tinyurl.com/a6slvud
Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 5:16:45 PM2/1/13
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"Patrick" <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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http://tinyurl.com/a6slvud
Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 5:18:00 PM2/1/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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http://tinyurl.com/a6slvud
>
>> Check the news and pull your head out of your rear.
>
Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 5:19:29 PM2/1/13
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Andrew W
Feb 1, 2013, 5:20:00 PM2/1/13
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W.T.S.
Feb 1, 2013, 5:25:16 PM2/1/13
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In article <qc6og89numh1crka3...@4ax.com>, pbarker001
@woh.rr.com says...
Bull shit. Many of the acts took place within the last decade, and
continue even today. It's just the way the Catholic Church is. Stop
trying to cover them up.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/a887er9
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
>
http://tinyurl.com/ayk7czf
>
http://tinyurl.com/43hp62x
@woh.rr.com says...
continue even today. It's just the way the Catholic Church is. Stop
trying to cover them up.
>
Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>
http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>
http://tinyurl.com/a887er9
>
http://tinyurl.com/c4thugl
>
http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>
http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>
http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>
Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>
Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
expense.
>
http://www.imnotsorry.net
>
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gbnyv0yzhevjpg/original.jpg
>
http://tinyurl.com/7q2ft38
>
http://tinyurl.com/7hk9gk8
>
http://tinyurl.com/ybmwsk4
>
http://tinyurl.com/ayk7czf
>
http://tinyurl.com/43hp62x
Alan Ferris
Feb 2, 2013, 4:36:42 AM2/2/13
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:12:55 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>Thanks to the now grown up victims who reported them. The Pope has
>>been trying to keep it hushed all along.
>
>By the early 1980's, the news cases dropped precipitously off. You wasn't even
>born yet when the cases were well being corrected.
USCCB reports credible abuse allegations against 6,115 priests (5.6%)
>>Thanks to the now grown up victims who reported them. The Pope has
>>been trying to keep it hushed all along.
>
>By the early 1980's, the news cases dropped precipitously off. You wasn't even
>born yet when the cases were well being corrected.
(excludes 2003)
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/USCCB_Yearly_Data_on_Accused_Priests.htm
Of these only 325 priests who have been laicized.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/laicization/2010_03_27_Laicization_Linked_Draft_Revised_with_Chron_Sort.xls
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011
Victims 889 690 632 598 620 398 426 489
Allegations 898 695 635 599 625 398 428 495
Offenders 622 463 394 415 423 286 345 406
Victims, Offenses, and Offenders in 2011
< 1980 319 (65%)
1980-2011 137 (28%)
Unknown 33 (7%)
The sex of eight of the 489 alleged victims reported in 2011 was not
identified in the allegation. Among those for whom the sex of the
victim was reported, 82% (395 victims) were male and 18% (86 victims)
were female.
Half of the victims (50%) were between the ages of ten and fourteen
when the alleged abuse began. An equal proportion of the victims (16%
each) were between the ages of fifteen and seventeen or under age ten.
The age could not be determined for almost one-fifth of victims (19%).
http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/child-and-youth-protection/upload/2011-annual-report.pdf
Alan Ferris
Feb 2, 2013, 4:37:16 AM2/2/13
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On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 14:40:24 -0500, Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>>Sure, no problem.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/advao7c
>>Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>>But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that the
>>house has been cleaned is false.
>
>The acts themselves are 50 years old.
>The house has been cleaned.
>>Sure, no problem.
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/advao7c
>>Note that these are cases in court and not the acts themselves.
>>But until all these court cases are settled, the claim by duke that the
>>house has been cleaned is false.
>
>The acts themselves are 50 years old.
>The house has been cleaned.
duke
Feb 2, 2013, 8:15:37 AM2/2/13
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:15:58 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
>Read here.
>http://tinyurl.com/a6slvud
>http://tinyurl.com/a6slvud
duke
Feb 2, 2013, 8:17:43 AM2/2/13
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:20:00 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
Here's a hint. It's already above.
duke
Feb 2, 2013, 9:22:02 AM2/2/13
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:18:00 +1100, "Andrew W" <remove_...@optusnet.com.au>
You mean this? You should be more careful on what you post.
Responding to a public rebuke by his successor, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony
insisted that he tried his best to deal with the priest molestation scandal but
fell short because not enough was known about the problem early in his career.
Psychiatrists openly admit they had to a lot to learn in the last 30 years.
You idiot.
Responding to a public rebuke by his successor, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony
insisted that he tried his best to deal with the priest molestation scandal but
fell short because not enough was known about the problem early in his career.
Psychiatrists openly admit they had to a lot to learn in the last 30 years.
You idiot.
Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 1:45:38 PM2/2/13
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Read it to me here.
Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 1:46:15 PM2/2/13
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Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 1:48:06 PM2/2/13
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:37:16 +0000, Alan Ferris
>
>USCCB reports credible abuse allegations against 6,115 priests (5.6%)
>(excludes 2003)
>http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/USCCB_Yearly_Data_on_Accused_Priests.htm
>Of these only 325 priests who have been laicized.
The rest are dead.
>USCCB reports credible abuse allegations against 6,115 priests (5.6%)
>(excludes 2003)
>http://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/USCCB_Yearly_Data_on_Accused_Priests.htm
>Of these only 325 priests who have been laicized.
Died of old age.
A long time ago.
Keep whining, alvis.
Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 1:50:31 PM2/2/13
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Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>>wrote:
>>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>
>Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
>criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
>Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
So, why do you think a crime ever took place?
Because some whiner like you is demanding 30 pieces of silver?
Prove it, shithead.
Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>>wrote:
>>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>
>Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
>criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
>Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
Because some whiner like you is demanding 30 pieces of silver?
Prove it, shithead.
Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 1:51:23 PM2/2/13
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 09:19:29 +1100, "Andrew W"
<remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>"Patrick" <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:sm6og8504f4447u3u...@4ax.com
>> Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> The house has been cleaned.
>>>
>>> Even were that true, which it isn't, Cardinal Mahony is -still- a
>>> wanker for covering up the sexual abuse of children by Catholic
>>> priests, Dook.
>>
>> Prove it.
>> With evidence.
>>
>> Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>That will come much later.
Yeah, they will wait til he dies.
<remove_...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>"Patrick" <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:sm6og8504f4447u3u...@4ax.com
>> Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> The house has been cleaned.
>>>
>>> Even were that true, which it isn't, Cardinal Mahony is -still- a
>>> wanker for covering up the sexual abuse of children by Catholic
>>> priests, Dook.
>>
>> Prove it.
>> With evidence.
>>
>> Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>That will come much later.
Then charge him.
Then sue him.
Alan Ferris
Feb 2, 2013, 1:58:14 PM2/2/13
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Accept rape is wrong and move on with your life.
----
"+ Somebody tell me who this child is, and I will teach her about
child abuse."
- Patrick Barker
----
Alan Ferris
Feb 2, 2013, 1:59:34 PM2/2/13
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:22:02 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>Responding to a public rebuke by his successor, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony
>insisted that he tried his best to deal with the priest molestation scandal but
>fell short because not enough was known about the problem early in his career.
Liar, his own records show you are lying here:
>Responding to a public rebuke by his successor, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony
>insisted that he tried his best to deal with the priest molestation scandal but
>fell short because not enough was known about the problem early in his career.
L.A. church leaders sought to hide sex abuse cases from authorities
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-church-files-20130122,0,3114631.story?track=lanowpicks
Documents from the late 1980s show that Archbishop Roger M. Mahony and another
archdiocese official discussed strategies to keep police from discovering that
children were being sexually abused by priests.
Alan Ferris
Feb 2, 2013, 2:00:22 PM2/2/13
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L.A. church leaders sought to hide sex abuse cases from authorities
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-church-files-20130122,0,3114631.story?track=lanowpicks
Documents from the late 1980s show that Archbishop Roger M. Mahony and another
archdiocese official discussed strategies to keep police from discovering that
children were being sexually abused by priests.
---
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-church-files-20130122,0,3114631.story?track=lanowpicks
Documents from the late 1980s show that Archbishop Roger M. Mahony and another
archdiocese official discussed strategies to keep police from discovering that
children were being sexually abused by priests.
"+ STOP BLAMING THE CHURCH.
+ The media has deliberately manipulated the scandal. They have
attempted to discredit the Catholic Church "
- Patrick Barker
----
W.T.S.
Feb 2, 2013, 2:07:23 PM2/2/13
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In article <tlnqg8tillegotebr...@4ax.com>, pbarker001
@woh.rr.com says...
If you want to pull your head out of the sand, start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
I'd be happy to repost it here, but it is copyrighted. Only the
URL can be reposted.
But, if anyone doesn't care, feel free to repost the Wikipedia article.
@woh.rr.com says...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
I'd be happy to repost it here, but it is copyrighted. Only the
URL can be reposted.
But, if anyone doesn't care, feel free to repost the Wikipedia article.
Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 2:23:20 PM2/2/13
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On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:07:23 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
And I don't care to do your refernce work.
This is how it works.
You make a statement.
Then.... you use a quote.
Then you can provide the url.
Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 2:24:20 PM2/2/13
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>Still defending the rape of children.
Patrick
Feb 2, 2013, 2:26:58 PM2/2/13
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Alan Ferris <hairy....@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>>>
>>>Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
>>>criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
>>>Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
>>
>>So, why do you think a crime ever took place?
>>Because some whiner like you is demanding 30 pieces of silver?
>>Prove it, shithead.
>
>L.A. church leaders sought to hide sex abuse cases from authorities
>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-church-files-20130122,0,3114631.story?track=lanowpicks
40 years ago?
>
>>>>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>>>
>>>Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
>>>criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
>>>Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
>>
>>So, why do you think a crime ever took place?
>>Because some whiner like you is demanding 30 pieces of silver?
>>Prove it, shithead.
>
>L.A. church leaders sought to hide sex abuse cases from authorities
>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-church-files-20130122,0,3114631.story?track=lanowpicks
>Documents from the late 1980s
OK then.
I thought we'd gone into the new millenium.
>show that Archbishop Roger M. Mahony and another
>archdiocese official discussed strategies to keep police from discovering that
>children were being sexually abused by priests.
And we burned witches and pushed the crusades.
Yeah, I know...
Andrew W
Feb 2, 2013, 4:05:09 PM2/2/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Read here.
>
Duke had nothing to say again so once again he forfeits the argument.
Andrew W
Feb 2, 2013, 4:08:34 PM2/2/13
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There's too many pages to post.
A link is perfectly sufficient in this case.
Plus I've already quoted articles in the past.
Andrew W
Feb 2, 2013, 5:12:09 PM2/2/13
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deliberate ignoramus and church sycophant.
But see recent convictions and acts below.
Suit: Priest 'coerced' church member into sexual acts - as recent as 10
years ago (2003).
CHICAGO (IL)
Chicago Sun-Times
A woman is suing the Chicago Archdiocese for at least $300,000, claiming a
priest who performed services at a west suburban church "coerced" her into a
sexual relationship.
The plaintiff, listed as Jane Doe, was a member of the St. Francis Xavier
Parish in west suburban LaGrange when the priest "coerced" her into sexual
acts in 2003, according to the lawsuit filed Friday in Cook County Circuit
Court.
The suit claims the plaintiff and the priest, who is also a licensed
clinical psychologist, had a close relationship that included counseling for
her depression.
The plaintiff alleges the priest took advantage of her "emotional
dependence" and engaged in an ongoing sexual relationship with her.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/17962146-418/suit-priest-coerced-church-member-into-sexual-acts.html
Ex-priest sentenced for indecent assault - as recent as 12 years ago.
NORTHERN IRELAND
UTV
Victims of clerical abuse have reacted with anger after a former priest, who
pleaded guilty to indecently assaulting a schoolgirl, was given probation
and community service.
Terence Rafferty, of Chestnut Grove in Newry, was a priest in St Peter's
Parish in Lurgan when the four offences took place during a six month period
in 2001.
Rafferty, who was 38 years old at the time, maintained the physical
relationship he had with the 16-year-old was consensual.
He stepped aside from his responsibilities as a priest following the
allegation, which was made against him in April 2011.
http://www.u.tv/News/Ex-priest-sentenced-for-indecent-assault/f0debc9c-69dd-4f90-b086-935a1b60a36c
Jury convicts priest, teacher in Philadelphia abuse case - an indecent act
as recent as 15 years ago.
On Wednesday afternoon, a Pennsylvania jury found two men guilty of sexually
assaulting the same altar boy in the late 1990s, the latest convictions in
the ongoing sexual abuse scandal in the Philadelphia archdiocese.
The jury of eight men and four women found Fr. Charles Engelhardt guilty of
indecent assault of a minor, corruption of a minor, and conspiracy, but
could not come to agreement on a count of indecent sexual assault, according
to The Associated Press.
In addition, Bernard Shero, a former Catholic school teacher at St. Jerome
Catholic School, was found guilty of rape and indecent sexual assault, among
other charges.
More.
http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/jury-convicts-priest-teacher-philadelphia-abuse-case
Alan Ferris
Feb 2, 2013, 5:15:04 PM2/2/13
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 14:24:20 -0500, Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote:
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>>Still defending the rape of children.
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>I don't
half wine, we know.
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>>Still defending the rape of children.
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>I don't
How's that slut you call a daughter, or was it a daughter you called a slut?
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Patrick calls women who have sex outside marriage "Sluts"
Seems his daughter is a "Slut" then:
http://www.facebook.com/melanie.berkmen (Nee Barker)
"I've been seeing this woman from Ohio named Melanie Barker for a
couple of months. She's been acting funny lately, like she's hiding
something. A friend of mine told me she was married to a guy named
Randall Ball. Does anybody know her? Can anybody tell me if she's
married, or is my friend just giving me sh!t for fun? I love her and I
really need to know."
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/oneida-tn/THNMJD50TE657AMMM
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Alan Ferris
Feb 2, 2013, 5:16:58 PM2/2/13
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him?
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The Catholic Church in the Netherlands castrated at least 10 boys in the 1950s
to cure them of their homosexuality, or to punish them for accusing clergy
members of sexual abuse.
"Makes sense to me." - Patrick Barker
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Andrew W
Feb 2, 2013, 5:17:17 PM2/2/13
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"Patrick" <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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Andrew W
Feb 2, 2013, 5:23:50 PM2/2/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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regarding the treatment of children then they really have problems.
Or they're not really any closer to God than a common pervert.
Any more pitiful excuses for today?
Andrew W
Feb 2, 2013, 5:28:16 PM2/2/13
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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silly game.
Unless of course your just full of shite again.
Jeanne Douglas
Feb 2, 2013, 9:42:28 PM2/2/13
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In article <f28qg8tvai1uvecmt...@4ax.com>,
The documents released this week prove that talking point to be nothing
but a lie.
--
JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
but a lie.
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JD
"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden
The Echo Chamber
Feb 2, 2013, 9:58:38 PM2/2/13
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On Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:17:17 PM UTC-5, Andrew W wrote:
> "Patrick" <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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> news:fsnqg819e5m8sr575...@4ax.com
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> > Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>>wrote:
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> >>> Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
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> >>
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> >> Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
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> >> criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
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> >> Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
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> >
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> > So, why do you think a crime ever took place?
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> > Because some whiner like you is demanding 30 pieces of silver?
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> > Prove it, shithead.
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> Prove that ALL the victims only want money.
Funny...Patrick and Duke both insist this is the case.
> "Patrick" <pbark...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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> news:fsnqg819e5m8sr575...@4ax.com
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> > Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> > Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>>wrote:
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> >
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> >>> Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
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> >>
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> >> Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
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> >> criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
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> >> Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
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> >
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> > So, why do you think a crime ever took place?
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> > Because some whiner like you is demanding 30 pieces of silver?
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> > Prove it, shithead.
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> >
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> Prove that ALL the victims only want money.
It must be what they put in all the church bulletins when the scandal broke..
The Echo Chamber
Feb 2, 2013, 10:00:36 PM2/2/13
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The Echo Chamber
Feb 2, 2013, 10:01:39 PM2/2/13
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On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:50:21 AM UTC-5, duke wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
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> wrote:
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> >In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
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> > J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
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> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
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> >> process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
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> >> men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
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> >> present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
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> >> 'Catch-22'.
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> >As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are, they
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> >will be unable to solve the problem.
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>
> Lied?? What lied?? Are you as nuts as you show yourself to be? Never mind
>
> answering - I already know what a blank you are. You really, really need to
>
> undertake a learning process and bring yourself up to 2013 standards.
>
Run along dookie. Everyone knows you defend the church, no matter how many lies you have to tell.
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:49:53 -0800, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com>
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> wrote:
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> >In article <9p1eg8dhrc0aoin9s...@4ax.com>,
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> > J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
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> >> On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 03:52:58 -0600, "W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net>
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> >> wrote:
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> >> >http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
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> >> >The Catholic Church will never change!
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> >> The RCC, like the BSA, will not resolve this problem untill a vetting
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> >> >http://tinyurl.com/b838kz7
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> >> >The Catholic Church will never change!
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> >> process is implimented to keep homosexuals from their ranks. Straight
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> >> men do not have sex with young males, gays do. This, of course, will
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> >> present itself with all sorts of legal ramifications. It's a
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> >> 'Catch-22'.
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> >
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> >As long as Catholics continue to lie about who the pedophiles are, they
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> >will be unable to solve the problem.
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>
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> Lied?? What lied?? Are you as nuts as you show yourself to be? Never mind
>
> answering - I already know what a blank you are. You really, really need to
>
> undertake a learning process and bring yourself up to 2013 standards.
>
Run along dookie. Everyone knows you defend the church, no matter how many lies you have to tell.
Silen...@hotmail.com
Feb 3, 2013, 3:27:21 AM2/3/13
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> Silen...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>>wrote:
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>>>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>>
>>Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
>>criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
>>Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
>
>So, why do you think a crime ever took place?
Because the documents show that a crime was being covered up.
> Patrick <pbark...@woh.rr.com>>wrote:
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>>>Why hasn't the Cardinal been charged with a crime?
>>
>>Because when the crime was committed, someone needed to file a
>>criminal complaint for criminal action to be taken.
>>Nobody has filed a criminal complaint.
>
>So, why do you think a crime ever took place?
Raping children is a crime.
The documents show that the Cardinal was covering up the rape of
children.
However, the way the law was written at the time the crime was
committed, the victim (or their guardians) needed to file a criminal
complaint against the rapist and be willing to testify in court or
else the police had no power to intervene.
Remember all those old cop shows where the police feared they'd have
to let a rapist go because they couldn't get the victim to testify in
court? But, they'd go to the victim and give some stirring speech and
persuade her to testify in the last act?
Well, the laws that those shows were based on were real.
The laws have since been changed, so were the exact same circumstances
to occur today, the police wouldn't need anyone to file a criminal
complaint, they could just slap the bastard in irons and use the
documents as evidence for a conviction in court.
But, because retro-active prosecution is illegal in this country,
meaning that any crime has to be prosecuted under the laws as they
existed at the time the crime was committed, the police are powerless
to prosecute Mahony, even though they know that he's a dirty,
disgusting, criminal Catholic scum bag he is.
Does that help, rightard?
How does it feel to be a member of a criminal organization, rightard?
Hey...
You aren't by chance diddling little kids yourself, are you?
>Because some whiner like you is demanding 30 pieces of silver?
You seem to be misinformed.
Heh heh...
Lying racist rightard socialists...
Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.
>Prove it, shithead.
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