No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
J
It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6964554.ece
No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
It is one of the most recognised images in the world - the Pope, hand held
aloft in blessing. Increasingly, however, the Pope's name or image is found
in less traditional contexts - from soap products and snowstorms to
endorsing tomato paste. In a move to control this growing use or misuse of
the papal brand, the Holy See has announced that in future anyone wanting to
use the face or name of the Holy Father or Supreme Pontiff must obtain
Vatican approval.
Robin Fry, a copyright lawyer from the London firm Beachcrofts, said: "Popes
throughout history have been plagued by their image being reproduced,
whether as little trinkets, or, recently, mechanical dolls. There has even
been a Pope soap on a rope. But like any other business, the Vatican needed
a clear intellectual property programme so that it may control uses of its
key expressions - not for commercial purposes, but simply to retain the
integrity of the words.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
A very Merry Christmas to all!
Zacharias Mulletstein
The Chief Instigator
>
>
> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
Father Haskell
> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
More money to be made from toilet paper.
Syd M.
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
No.
PDW
Ray Fischer
>
>
>It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>commercial profit.
You nazi turds are always trying to censor that which you hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Alan Ford
> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
How am I supposed to wash my asshole now, says me.
--
If you don't beat your meat
You can't have any pudding
How can you have any pudding
If you don't beat your meat?
thomas p.
> J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
>> for commercial profit.
>
> You nazi turds are always trying to censor that which you hate.
The Church has never hesitated to make a buck out of religious junk.
It's indignation is laughable.
W.T.S.
news:3cmafm....@news.alt.net...
> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6964554.ece
crotch and ass?
Pope, bad. Abortion, good.
--
http://folding.stanford.edu
Save lives, visit today!
duke
<zmulle...@isright.com> wrote:
>The Pope is a false Christian, just like Duke the Puke.
That coming from a mullet, I thank you.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
duke
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
The Vatican is God's give to his people.
duke
>J wrote:
>
>> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
>
>
>How am I supposed to wash my asshole now, says me.
Go back to your finger.
Mitchell Holman
news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
>> for commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
Only because he didn't live long enough to
do anything, much less anything corrupt.
Jimbo
> commercial profit.
Sorry J, free market and all that. Get over it.
> The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
He's the symbol of the largest pedophile organization on the planet,
and should be the object of derision at every turn.
Jimbo
You, J, and duke are idiots.
Anon7
news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
Fake country?
Free Lunch
alt.atheism:
The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
thomas p.
Yes, the Church has always gotten along well with fascists.
LC
Ku Klux Katlick "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
news:3cmafm....@news.alt.net...
> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
<insert mocking laugh here>
If there were true justice, Pope Benny would indeed be hanging from a rope.
The Chief Instigator
> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>
>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>
> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
fantasy.
The Chief Instigator
Exactly.
The Chief Instigator
> On Dec 22, 12:27?am, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
><zmulletst...@isright.com> wrote:
>> The Pope is a false Christian, just like Duke the Puke.
>>
>>
>
> You, J, and duke are idiots.
...and that's a charitable expression of that truth.
Tom S.
>
>
>It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
For the Vatican to promote his as more holy than any other person on
the earth is the blasphemy.
>for
>commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol
of a corrupt worldwide conspiracy, bent on enslaving mankind.
<snip>
Tom. S
juanjo
> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
Last I checked blasphemy was defined something along the line of
"Irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable; The act
of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for any
religion's deity or deities; The act of claiming the attributes of a
deity."
Since the Pope is not a deity nor is he per se sacred or inviolable.
He is a man like all other men. Now some may claim he is himself
blasphemous because he claims the attributes of a deity by claiming to
speak for a deity. But that is neither here or now. The fact is that
as a man, making fun of the pope is the right of all as an exercise of
free speech.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:27:54 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> <zmulle...@isright.com> wrote:
>
> >The Pope is a false Christian, just like Duke the Puke.
>
> That coming from a mullet, I thank you.
Actually, the Pope is a good deal more careful than Puke about what he
says, as there are actually people who will believe what the Pope says.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> >> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> >> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
> >
> >As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> >corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>
> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
Not a very useful god to give so little. Lets hold out for a better one.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:30:45 -0800, Alan Ford <zzz...@qqq.net> wrote:
>
> >J wrote:
> >
> >> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
> >
> >
> >How am I supposed to wash my asshole now, says me.
>
> Go back to your finger.
But Pope soap on a rope works so well!!!
fasgnadh
> J wrote:
>
>> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
>
>
> How am I supposed to wash my asshole now, says me.
In the usual atheist manner, arse-licking:
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
--
alt.atheism FAQ:
http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source
"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest
"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest
"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin
http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest
http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg
Steve O
>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>> decency
>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
Really?
So how come the last time I was in the Vatican , the Pope was selling Magic
Holy Water in a Pope-shaped bottle?
--
Steve O
aa #2240 BAAWA
Theological Noncognivatist
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from Purgatory by Papal Indulgence
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
>
>
> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
He can sue me--but he's just upped the ante.
I won't be dictated to by the likes of him.
--
Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939
Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
Kook Clearinghouse! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Pray for Goppers the way they pray for Obama! Psalm 109!
fasgnadh
No surprise you enjoy it, as the Nuns say;
'wears the candle' ( '?' or '!' ) ;-)
fasgnadh
>
> Can you think of a better use for the image of the Pope then washing my
> crotch and ass?
No, considering that
you mother hasn't been able to get you to do that since you were a kid.
But you could use the traditional atheist arse brush;
http://data5.blog.de/media/481/2584481_bdc195fac4_m.jpeg
> Abortion, good.
In your case, can we make it retrospective
The Chief Instigator
> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in news:3cmafm....@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>>
>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> He can sue me--but he's just upped the ante.
>
> I won't be dictated to by the likes of him.
Neither will I.
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
>
>
> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
This one brought to you by the NHL (tm):
http://pareidolia-global.blogspot.com/
The Chief Instigator
> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in news:3cmafm....@news.alt.net:
>
>>
>>
>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> This one brought to you by the NHL (tm):
>
> http://pareidolia-global.blogspot.com/
Why is he trying an outfit with Ottawa Senators colors?
The Chief Instigator
That's why he's a bit more dangerous than the Village Idiot of a state
capitol.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Alan Ford wrote:
> > J wrote:
> >
> >> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
> >
> >
> > How am I supposed to wash my asshole now, says me.
>
> In the usual atheist manner
But that requires Pope-on-a-rope.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Virgil wrote:
> > In article <e3g1j550snt7tal6g...@4ax.com>,
> > duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:30:45 -0800, Alan Ford <zzz...@qqq.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> J wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
> >>>
> >>> How am I supposed to wash my asshole now, says me.
> >>
> >> Go back to your finger.
> >
> > But Pope soap on a rope works so well!!!
>
> No surprise you enjoy it, as the Nuns say;
I prefer being clean, but NO surprise that Fasgnadh chooses not to be.
Virgil
fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> W.T.S. wrote:
> >
> > Can you think of a better use for the image of the Pope then washing my
> > crotch and ass?
>
> No
So you do it too, fasgnadh?
Or do you leave your crotch and ass in a state of nature?
That might explain why you are so set on selling hatred to everybody.
thomas p.
> On Dec 22, 2:52 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
>>>> for commercial profit.
>>
>>
>> The Church has never hesitated to make a buck out of religious junk.
>> It's indignation is laughable.
>
> "It's" = "it is". The possessive form of "it" is "its", WITHOUT the
> apostrophe. Got it? ..... Jesus fucking christ, I'm surprised they
> didn't teach you that in junior high! :-)
I am surprised that you would be so upset. I am also
aware of the difference; it was a typo. I certainly hope that you recover
from the horrible shock. A couple of days in bed might help.
thomas p.
> On Dec 22, 4:59 am, "W.T.S." <m...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:3cmafm....@news.alt.net...> It borders on blasphemy for
>> anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>
>> Can you think of a better use for the image of the Pope then washing
>> my
>> crotch and ass?
>> --http://folding.stanford.edu
>> Save lives, visit today!
>
> Hey WTS! Lemme "ax" you somthin', man: Why don't you know the
> difference between "then" and "than"?
>
> WTF: Dumber "then" a box of rox. :-)
plonk
duke
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:11:00 -0700, Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
>> In article <h0g1j5pnrkcj8vbsu...@4ax.com>,
>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:27:54 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>> <zmulle...@isright.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Pope is a false Christian, just like Duke the Puke.
>>>
>>> That coming from a mullet, I thank you.
>>
>> Actually, the Pope is a good deal more careful than Puke about what he
>> says, as there are actually people who will believe what the Pope says.
>
>That's why he's a bit more dangerous than the Village Idiot of a state
>capitol.
Who do you suppose X is in his previous life?
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
duke
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:49:25 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>>
>>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>
>> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
>
>More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
>fantasy.
Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
duke
>
>
>
>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>>> decency
>>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
>Really?
>So how come the last time I was in the Vatican , the Pope was selling Magic
>Holy Water in a Pope-shaped bottle?
Magic (?????) Holy Water. You were never in the Vatican then.
duke
>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>
>> --
>> Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston,
>> Texas
>> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
>> LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
>> NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
>
>Fake country?
Vatican City is a sovereign country surrounded by the city of Rome.
duke
>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
>alt.atheism:
>
>>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>>news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
>>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>>
>>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston,
>>> Texas
>>> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
>>> LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
>>> NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
>>
>>Fake country?
>
>The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
>that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
It IS a sovereign country.
duke
>Free Lunch wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
>> alt.atheism:
>>
>>> "The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
>>>>> for commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol
>>>>> of decency and should only be replicated with the utmost
>>>>> discretion.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com)
>>>> Houston, Texas
>>>> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros)
>>>> AA#2273 LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December
>>>> 20) NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio,
>>>> 7:35
>>>
>>> Fake country?
>>
>> The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of
>> course, that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>
>Yes, the Church has always gotten along well with fascists.
And especially so with the needy, the naked, the hungry.
duke
>On Dec 22, 12:20�am, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>> commercial profit.
>
>Sorry J, free market and all that. Get over it.
>> The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
>He's the symbol of the largest pedophile organization on the planet,
>and should be the object of derision at every turn.
No more so a pedo group than vacant lots in notown.
Jimbo
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
> >> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> >>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> >>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> >> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> >> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>
> >> --
> >> Texas
> >> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> >> LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
> >> NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
>
> >Fake country?
>
> Vatican City is a
The headquarters of the worlds largest pedophile organization.
Jimbo
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:27:27 +0100, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Free Lunch wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
> >> alt.atheism:
>
> >>>news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
> >>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
> >>>>> for commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol
> >>>>> of decency and should only be replicated with the utmost
> >>>>> discretion.
>
> >>>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> >>>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Houston, Texas
> >>>> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros)
> >>>> AA#2273 LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December
> >>>> 20) NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio,
> >>>> 7:35
>
> >>> Fake country?
>
> >> The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of
> >> course, that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>
> >Yes, the Church has always gotten along well with fascists.
>
> And especially so
With pedophile fascists, you catholic loves you some pedophiles!
Father Haskell
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:18:39 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
> >alt.atheism:
>
> >>news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
> >>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> >>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> >>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> >>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> >>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Texas
> >>> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> >>> LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
> >>> NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
>
> >>Fake country?
>
> >The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
> >that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>
> It IS a sovereign country.
A whole sovereign country of pedophiles? Who'd imagine?
Steve O
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:u354j5h4hh4758kos...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:40:32 -0000, "Steve O" <nos...@here.thanks> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>>>> decency
>>>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>
>>Really?
>>So how come the last time I was in the Vatican , the Pope was selling
>>Magic
>>Holy Water in a Pope-shaped bottle?
>
> Magic (?????) Holy Water. You were never in the Vatican then.
1975.
It was a Holy Year, or Anno Santo, and the Holy Doors of the Vatican were
opened for Catholic Pilgrims like myself to pass through and earn the Papal
Indulgence/exemption from purgatory.
I was staying in a pleasant little Catholic Hostel run by Ukrainian nuns
which was very competitively priced.(I even managed to have a grope with one
of the novice nuns behind the chicken shed in the courtyard of the hostel-
well, I was only 13 at the time but very advanced for my age)
As well as buying the pope- shaped magic blessed Holy Water I also bought a
huge set of massive wooden rosary beads (comedy size) which were blessed by
the Pope during a semi- private audience I had with him.( a semi -private
audience, for those unaware, consists of about 1500-2000 people)
I guess you've never been to the Vatican yourself, duke.
It was already well commercialized when I went there in 1975 and even more
so when I visited again in 1984.
I'd hate to think what it is like now.
Actually, I already know, check this out
http://www.romegiftshop.com/vaso.html
Please note that all representations of the Pope are copyrighted- you can be
sure he'll get his share of the loot.
Or, if you want the genuine Vatican stuff sold only through the three
authorized shops within the Vatican, try this
http://www.savellireligious.com/catholic_store/vatican_shop.htm
You see, duke, that's the problem- your bullshit religion doesn't even try
to hide the fact that it's one simple function is to fleece its gullible
flock.
Why, they even refer to you as "sheep" in the literature.
Fortunately, I was able to figure that out myself at 13.
Maybe you're a very slow learner.
Steve O
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9a54j5d7lhubtq72r...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:27:27 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Free Lunch wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
>>>
>>> The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of
>>> course, that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>>
>>Yes, the Church has always gotten along well with fascists.
>
> And especially so with the needy, the naked, the hungry.
That's right- I can remember seeing dozens of the poor creatures surrounding
the Vatican City and all of the other notable locations and Cathedrals in
Rome.
There was quite a contrast between those poor, desperate homeless creatures
and the sumptuous luxury they were begging in or near to.
I was unable to reconcile that at 13, because to my simple, childlike mind,
I couldn't see why the church couldn't sell off a couple of priceless
articles to help them out.
After all, Father Kirkpatrick had already explained that Jesus wanted us to
abandon our worldly goods and follow him, so it was hard for me to figure
out why the Pope couldn't do that.
Father Kirkpatrick seemed to have a little trouble explaining that one too
--
Steve O
aa #2240 BAAWA
Theological Noncognivatist
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from Purgatory by Papal Indulgence
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 23 Dec 2009 03:47:09 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:11:00 -0700, Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
> >> In article <h0g1j5pnrkcj8vbsu...@4ax.com>,
> >> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:27:54 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
> >>> <zmulle...@isright.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >The Pope is a false Christian, just like Duke the Puke.
> >>>
> >>> That coming from a mullet, I thank you.
> >>
> >> Actually, the Pope is a good deal more careful than Puke about what he
> >> says, as there are actually people who will believe what the Pope says.
> >
> >That's why he's a bit more dangerous than the Village Idiot of a state
> >capitol.
>
> Who do you suppose X is in his previous life?
Supposing that anyone even had a previous life is an RC heresy, for
which in previous times the RC's might well have burned Puke at the
stake and condemned his soul to hell.
Nice going, Puke!
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On 22 Dec 2009 21:30:15 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:49:25 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> >>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
> >>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
> >>>
> >>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> >>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
> >>
> >> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
> >
> >More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
> >fantasy.
>
> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
We know that Puke himself admits that "the bible" is not entirely
accurate.
But Puke himself does not seem able to distinguish the parts that must
be taken with a grain of salt from those which may be taken straight.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:40:32 -0000, "Steve O" <nos...@here.thanks> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> >>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
> >>>> decency
> >>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
> >
> >Really?
> >So how come the last time I was in the Vatican , the Pope was selling Magic
> >Holy Water in a Pope-shaped bottle?
>
> Magic (?????) Holy Water. You were never in the Vatican then.
If that allegedly "holy" water has no power or virtue over and above
ordinary water, then the sale of it as special is a mere scam.
Much like the sale of indulgences, for which the RC Church is also
notorious.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
Only since 1929, though it has been a See (Episcopate) much longer.
And even today The See and the City have different passports, so the
nationhood of the See is a bit ambiguous.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of
> >> course, that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
> >
> >Yes, the Church has always gotten along well with fascists.
>
> And especially so with the needy, the naked, the hungry.
At least those not in Hitler's or Mussolini's power.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
>
> >He's the symbol of the largest pedophile organization on the planet,
> >and should be the object of derision at every turn.
>
> No more so a pedo group than vacant lots in notown.
While the Pope of the time may not have been directly involved in the
cover ups of priestly pedophilia, for all acts of his priests the Pope
is ultimately responsible.
The Chief Instigator
> On 22 Dec 2009 21:30:15 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:49:25 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>>>
>>>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>>
>>> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
>>
>>More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
>>fantasy.
>
> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever exhibited
anything in reality.
The Chief Instigator
It's time to shut it down.
The Chief Instigator
> On 23 Dec 2009 03:47:09 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:11:00 -0700, Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
>>> In article <h0g1j5pnrkcj8vbsu...@4ax.com>,
>>> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:27:54 -0600, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
>>>> <zmulle...@isright.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >The Pope is a false Christian, just like Duke the Puke.
>>>>
>>>> That coming from a mullet, I thank you.
>>>
>>> Actually, the Pope is a good deal more careful than Puke about what he
>>> says, as there are actually people who will believe what the Pope says.
>>
>>That's why he's a bit more dangerous than the Village Idiot of a state
>>capitol.
>
> Who do you suppose X is in his previous life?
Just like you, I can't read minds...and you are X-credible as far as I'm
concerned.
Free Lunch
in alt.atheism:
>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:00:27 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On 22 Dec 2009 21:30:15 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:49:25 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>>>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>>>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>>>
>>>> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
>>>
>>>More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
>>>fantasy.
>>
>> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
>
>I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
>our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever exhibited
>anything in reality.
"Do as we say our God says."
The arrogance of religious leaders can leave one breathless at times.
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:12:00 -0600, Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
> <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
>> "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in news:3cmafm....@news.alt.net:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
>>> for commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol
>>> of decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>
>> This one brought to you by the NHL (tm):
>>
>> http://pareidolia-global.blogspot.com/
>
> Why is he trying an outfit with Ottawa Senators colors?
>
He's the freakin'-a pope! The Senators are obviously using HIS colors!
One wonders what position he'd play.
--
Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939
Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
Kook Clearinghouse! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Pray for Goppers the way they pray for Obama! Psalm 109!
Andre Lieven
<gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
> The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote innews:slrnhj33up...@eris.io.com:
>
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:12:00 -0600, Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
> > <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
> >>> for commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol
> >>> of decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> >> This one brought to you by the NHL (tm):
>
> >>http://pareidolia-global.blogspot.com/
>
> > Why is he trying an outfit with Ottawa Senators colors?
>
> He's the freakin'-a pope! The Senators are obviously using HIS colors!
>
> One wonders what position he'd play.
The goalpost. His thinking powers rival any goalposts'.
Andre
Ray Fischer
>On 22 Dec 2009 21:30:15 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:49:25 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>>>
>>>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>>
>>> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
>>
>>More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
>>fantasy.
>
>Well, you don't know what the bible says,
According to your own claims YOU do not know what the Bible says.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
The Chief Instigator
...and its frequency is slowly rising.
duke
>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:00:27 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On 22 Dec 2009 21:30:15 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:49:25 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>>>>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>>>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>>>
>>>> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
>>>
>>>More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
>>>fantasy.
>>
>> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
>
>I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
>our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever exhibited
>anything in reality.
He has to those of us that look.
duke
No, I have not.
>It was already well commercialized when I went there in 1975 and even more
>so when I visited again in 1984.
Gee, for an atheist, you sure like to see the Pope, don't you.
>I'd hate to think what it is like now.
>Actually, I already know, check this out
>http://www.romegiftshop.com/vaso.html
>Please note that all representations of the Pope are copyrighted- you can be
>sure he'll get his share of the loot.
The Pope won't get a penny.
>You see, duke, that's the problem- your bullshit religion doesn't even try
>to hide the fact that it's one simple function is to fleece its gullible
>flock.
I understand faith, you don't.
duke
>
>
>"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:9a54j5d7lhubtq72r...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:27:27 +0100, "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Free Lunch wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
>
>>>>
>>>> The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of
>>>> course, that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>>>
>>>Yes, the Church has always gotten along well with fascists.
>>
>> And especially so with the needy, the naked, the hungry.
>
>That's right- I can remember seeing dozens of the poor creatures surrounding
>the Vatican City and all of the other notable locations and Cathedrals in
>Rome.
>There was quite a contrast between those poor, desperate homeless creatures
>and the sumptuous luxury they were begging in or near to.
What luxury? It all belongs to long-missing others. The Vatican is only the
museum.
duke
Who'd believe it is?
duke
>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:03:45 -0600, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:18:39 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
>>>alt.atheism:
>>>
>>>>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvis...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
>>>>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>>>>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston,
>>>>> Texas
>>>>> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
>>>>> LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
>>>>> NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
>>>>
>>>>Fake country?
>>>
>>>The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
>>>that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>>
>> It IS a sovereign country.
>
>It's time to shut it down.
Hell will freeze over first, west loop.
Mark Sebree
> On 23 Dec 2009 22:30:49 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:00:27 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On 22 Dec 2009 21:30:15 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:49:25 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>> On 22 Dec 2009 06:07:26 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> >>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
> >>>>>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> >>>>>As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> >>>>>corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>
> >>>> The Vatican is God's give to his people.
>
> >>>More Duke bullshit, per SOP...your Wholly Babble doesn't back up your
> >>>fantasy.
>
> >> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
>
> >I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
> >our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever exhibited
> >anything in reality.
>
> He has to those of us that look.
Which itself is a logical fallacy. If he only shows up to those that
believe in him, then the person is using their belief, i.e. subjective
opinion, as an explanation. It is a selection fallacy. It also means
that there is no OBJECTIVE evidence that your deity exists since
objective evidence does not require that the person believe in your
deity in order to see the evidence that your deity exists.
Mark Sebree
>
> Duke
Mark Sebree
> On 23 Dec 2009 22:32:40 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:03:45 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:18:39 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>
> >>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
> >>>alt.atheism:
>
> >>>>news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
> >>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> >>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> >>>>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
> >>>>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
> >>>>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Texas
> >>>>> www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> >>>>> LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
> >>>>> NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
>
> >>>>Fake country?
>
> >>>The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
> >>>that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>
> >> It IS a sovereign country.
>
> >It's time to shut it down.
>
> Hell will freeze over first, west loop.
It already has. Last week, as a matter of fact. Those blizzards in
the Midwest definitely dumped snow onto Hell, MI. There is still snow
on the ground, and more forecast for the next week.
Mark Sebree
>
> Duke
duke
wrote:
>> >> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
>> >I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
>> >our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever exhibited
>> >anything in reality.
>> He has to those of us that look.
>Which itself is a logical fallacy.
You are a logical fallacy that lives life as a paradox.
Steve O
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:cro6j55ch3igahu6o...@4ax.com...
Well, I didn't just go there to see a guy in a frock, there were other
reasons.
The second time around was for a football game.
>
>>I'd hate to think what it is like now.
>>Actually, I already know, check this out
>>http://www.romegiftshop.com/vaso.html
>
>>Please note that all representations of the Pope are copyrighted- you can
>>be
>>sure he'll get his share of the loot.
>
> The Pope won't get a penny.
Yeah, he's a regular pauper, isn't he?
>
>>You see, duke, that's the problem- your bullshit religion doesn't even try
>>to hide the fact that it's one simple function is to fleece its gullible
>>flock.
>
> I understand faith, you don't.
>
I understand it much, much better than you.
Victims of a con- trick, especially when in denial, never have a clue about
what is going on.
I worked out that con- trick on my own at 13, from evidence I had seen with
my own eyes in Rome.
Maybe one day you'll see it too, but I doubt it.
Tell you what, duke, why don't you get yourself down to the Vatican and take
a look for yourself- you might be surprised at what you see.
The turning point for myself was on the steps of some cathedral, where we
were supposed to climb the steps on our knees, kissing the blood of St Peter
at the point where he was supposed to have been crucified upside down, and
seeing some poor elderly woman struggling up it with bleeding kneecaps,
surrounded by the souvenir sellers and pickpockets, and thinking..."This is
just complete bullshit"
All of this wealth, all of this power, has absolutely fuck all to do with
some supposed creator, this is just the work of egotistical, mean spirited
controlling human beings who simply devised a way to make other people do
what THEY wanted and profit by it.
THAT was where my faith in the church collapsed and was soon followed by my
faith in God.
You simply haven't reached that stage yet, but if you pull the wool from
your own eyes and stop trying to turn yourself into a mindless, controlled
sheep you might muster up enough of a clue to go and tell God's Shepherd
where to stick his crook.
Steve O
"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:tvo6j5t1qtn5t20t1...@4ax.com...
Yeah, I forgot about all of the other high value property the church owns.
One of the biggest landowners in the world, aren't they?
Mark Sebree
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:07:58 -0800 (PST), Mark Sebree <seb...@infionline.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> >> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your silliness.
> >> >I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
> >> >our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever exhibited
> >> >anything in reality.
> >> He has to those of us that look.
> > believe in him, then the person is using their belief, i.e. subjective
> > opinion, as an explanation. It is a selection fallacy. It also means
> > that there is no OBJECTIVE evidence that your deity exists since
> > objective evidence does not require that the person believe in your
> > deity in order to see the evidence that your deity exists.
>
Which only shows that you do not understand anything that was related
to you. Here are the definitions of each again since you cannot
remember them from the last time you were told.
logical fallacy
a fallacy in logical argumentation
Fallacy:
1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the
world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.
2. a misleading or unsound argument.
3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness.
4. Logic. any of various types of erroneous reasoning that render
arguments logically unsound.
Paradox:
1. a statement or proposition that seems self-contradictory or absurd
but in reality expresses a possible truth.
2. a self-contradictory and false proposition.
3. any person, thing, or situation exhibiting an apparently
contradictory nature.
4. an opinion or statement contrary to commonly accepted opinion.
A person cannot be a logical fallacy since a logical fallacy is a
debating/discussion construct, and despite your delusions, I do not
live "life as a paradox". I have not been showing a contradictory
nature at all, but rather a fairly straight forward one. You have
shown that you do not even understand what a paradox is, and you
refuse to even try. As a hint, in the omnipotence paradox, definition
2 is the one that applies.
Your statement is in reality a logical fallacy, specifically an ad
hominem, or an attack on the person. This is one of your favorite
logical fallacies to employ, given that you use it so frequently.
Mark Sebree
>
> Duke
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
> >our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever exhibited
> >anything in reality.
>
> He has to those of us that look.
Self-deception is not the same as ""looking".
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
The Vatican is known to have the greatest collection of plunder outside
the Louvre, and if all of it were opened up might even outdo the Louvre.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
Much of its riches are plunder taken by military popes, or bought with
the alms of the poor or the sale of indulgences.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
> >> >that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
> >>
> >> It IS a sovereign country.
> >
> >A whole sovereign country of pedophiles? Who'd imagine?
>
> Who'd believe it is?
Well, they covered up priestly pedophlia in the US and Eire, and very
likely a whole bunch of other countries, for years and years, until the
stink grew too big to cover up any more.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
According to Dante, a large part of it already is frozen over.
So it shouldn't take long to freeze over the rest of it.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:07:58 -0800 (PST), Mark Sebree <seb...@infionline.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >> >> Well, you don't know what the bible says, so I understand your
> >> >> silliness.
>
> >> >I understand it much more than you ever will...it's a slapstick of "do as
> >> >our god says, or we'll hurt you", never mind that no god has ever
> >> >exhibited
> >> >anything in reality.
>
> >> He has to those of us that look.
>
> >Which itself is a logical fallacy.
>
> You are a logical fallacy that lives life as a paradox.
>
To say that one must believe in your god first before being able to see
that he exists is a form of self delusion.
Ray Fischer
>In article <i2p6j5p6rh7lgjrku...@4ax.com>,
> duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On 23 Dec 2009 22:32:40 GMT, The Chief Instigator <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
>> >>>that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>> >>
>> >> It IS a sovereign country.
>> >
>> >It's time to shut it down.
>>
>> Hell will freeze over first, west loop.
>
>According to Dante, a large part of it already is frozen over.
And, according to Dante, there are quite a few bishops and popes
already in residence.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Steve O
"Attila" <<proc...@here.now> wrote in message
news:uip7j5pvmrdultuu9...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:27:09 -0700, Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> in
> alt.abortion with message-id
> Not to mention being confiscated from witches.
Let's face it.
The church is the world's biggest commercial enterprise... ever.
They've been making a ton of money for hundreds of years, mostly tax- free.
The Chief Instigator
How many chemicals have you abused to get into those hallucinations?
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
The Chief Instigator
Self-delusion is apparently Duke's life.
The Chief Instigator
Enjoy your fantasy, as that's about all you have left.
�R.L.Measures
Virgil <Vir...@home.esc> wrote:
� The Internet was also a factor is the fall.
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
The Chief Instigator
> On Dec 24, 7:53?am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> On 23 Dec 2009 22:32:40 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr...@io.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:03:45 -0600, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:18:39 -0600, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>
>> >>>On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:03:16 -0500, "Anon7" <a...@b.com> wrote in
>> >>>alt.atheism:
>>
>> >>>>"The Chief Instigator" <patr...@io.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:slrnhj0ogt....@eris.io.com...
>> >>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:20:19 -0500, J <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
>> >>>>>> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
>> >>>>>> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>>
>> >>>>> As far as I'm concerned, the last Pope that wasn't hip-deep in the
>> >>>>> corruption of the fake country within Rome was John Paul I.
>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Texas
>> >>>>> ? ?www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php?(TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?LAST GAME: Houston 5, Grand Rapids 3 (December 20)
>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?NEXT GAME: Saturday, December 26 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
>>
>> >>>>Fake country?
>>
>> >>>The Vatican is allowed to act as if it is a separate country. Of course,
>> >>>that wasn't formalized until Mussolini.
>>
>> >> It IS a sovereign country.
>>
>> >It's time to shut it down.
>>
>> Hell will freeze over first, west loop.
>
> It already has. Last week, as a matter of fact. Those blizzards in
> the Midwest definitely dumped snow onto Hell, MI. There is still snow
> on the ground, and more forecast for the next week.
>
> Mark Sebree
>
>> Duke
Of the seven states east of the Mississippi I haven't yet visited, Michigan
is one of them (the other six are all of New England). At 19:44 EST, Hell
is a couple of degrees below freezing, but at least the winds (anywhere from
NE to SE) are fairly light, 5-10 MPH. Here in Houston, we're in the low to
mid 40s, but the winds are still in the 20-25 MPH range, expected to slow
down to 10-15 later tonight.
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
L.Roberts
> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image for
> commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of decency
> and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
>
>
> No more 'Pope on a rope', says the Vatican
>
> It is one of the most recognised images in the world - the Pope, hand held
> aloft in blessing. Increasingly, however, the Pope's name or image is found
> in less traditional contexts - from soap products and snowstorms to
> endorsing tomato paste. In a move to control this growing use or misuse of
> the papal brand, the Holy See has announced that in future anyone wanting to
> use the face or name of the Holy Father or Supreme Pontiff must obtain
> Vatican approval.
>
> Robin Fry, a copyright lawyer from the London firm Beachcrofts, said: "Popes
> throughout history have been plagued by their image being reproduced,
> whether as little trinkets, or, recently, mechanical dolls. There has even
> been a Pope soap on a rope. But like any other business, the Vatican needed
> a clear intellectual property programme so that it may control uses of its
> key expressions - not for commercial purposes, but simply to retain the
> integrity of the words.
>
> --
> J Young
> Jvisi...@live.com
>
> A very Merry Christmas to all!
Ok, I'll settle for a pope on his dumb ass. :-)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34588269/ns/world_news-world_faith/
Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian
news:7efc9f77-2be1-47c4...@n13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 21, 9:20�pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> It borders on blasphemy for anyone to market this holy man's image
>> for commercial profit. The image of the pontiff is the very symbol of
>> decency and should only be replicated with the utmost discretion.
<snip>
> Ok, I'll settle for a pope on his dumb ass. :-)
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34588269/ns/world_news-world_faith/
Shoulda worn his hockey outfit!
--
Doc Smartass | BAAWA Knight of Troll Medication | aa # 1939
Book reviews: http://jw-bookblog.blogspot.com/
Kook Clearinghouse! http://kookclearinghouse.blogspot.com/
Pray for Goppers the way they pray for Obama! Psalm 109!