Select Multiple Speakers Problem

[oraclerob]

Although I'm sure I had this working on my trial, the "Multiple
Speakers" (Airport Express) and Selecting a speaker options seem to
not work, both in the Pocket PC and the Web Interface. When selecting
a speaker through the Pocket PC client it never "ticks" the speaker.
I'm using iTunes 9.0070 and Signal 1.2.2.3 Server and 1.2.2.1 client.
The web interface also never selects the speaker. There is no error,
just nothing happens.

Any clues?

[oraclerob]

Here is my log...

[21:59:31] Signal 1.2.3.3
[21:59:31] --------------
[21:59:31] Copyright (c) 2005-2009 Alloysoft, LLC
[21:59:31]
[21:59:31] Server Name: nuun
[21:59:31] Starting services:
[21:59:31] Media Library
[21:59:31] iTunes
[21:59:31] Media Library Update Started
[21:59:31] Added remote speaker: Computer
[21:59:31] Using Bonjour for Windows
[21:59:31]
[21:59:31] Added remote speaker: Airport First Floor
[21:59:31] Opening communication channels
[21:59:31] Initializing XML channel (port 3567)
[21:59:31] Initializing XML channel discovery (port 3568)
[21:59:31] Initializing HTTP channel (port 3569)
[21:59:31] Server is started
[21:59:31] iTunes version is 9.0.0.70
[21:59:32] Media Library Update Finished (1.33s)

[John Forsythe]

Did you confirm that you have the Multiple Speaker window in iTunes closed?

I had a similar problem which was resolved when I closed that little dialog window.

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[oraclerob]

Yep, I have tried everything, even installing on another computer,
changing the views, minimising the window, maximising etc. etc... I
just cannot get it to work at all.

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[Matt Stevens]

Can you tell me what the iTunes window title says? Is it "iTunes" or something like "iTunes Media Center"? I tested on several PCs today and was able to reproduce the problem on one of them - an HP system that for some reason appears to modify the iTunes window title starting with iTunes 9. My guess is this confuses Signal when it tries to find the main iTunes window.

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[oraclerob]

Hi there,
There is no title at all on the window at all, I know what you mean
for some reason the apple programmers have not provided a normal
window title with the normal - and X options to the right. I had a
look at a real mac OS X itunes and that is the way it looks (without
the MAC title bar and options on the very top). Could this be the
reason? missing window title? I can't see an option to "create the
windows title bar look".

[oraclerob]

I've worked it out and got it to work, although I think this will be a
problem with your program. I changed the default music library (itl)
into the place where I store my mp3 ie. d:\mp3\itunes library.itl
rather than the usual documents and settings etc. Therefore the name
at the top of the window now says "mp3" rather than itunes. Your
program must be specifically looking for itunes in the window title
which means that as soon as you do what I did this now doesn't work.
Having said this, no other functionality is lost ie. volume control
and so on, so it is puzzling to me why multiple speakers is lost.

[Matt Stevens]

Good catch! That's an annoying change in iTunes, but I'll see what I can do to work around it. If you're curious to know why speaker control works differently than the other functions I talked about that a bit on the blog:

http://www.alloysoft.com/blog/2008/04/adventures-with-airtunes/

I've been looking into using the interface Apple added for Remote to control AirTunes speakers in the future. It's undocumented and not officially supported, but it beats the heck out of UI scripting.

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[Matt Stevens]

I've implemented a fix that should handle varying window titles, could you please give this version a try and let me know if it works for you?

http://www.alloysoft.com/download/signal/beta/Signal_124.exe

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[oraclerob]

Wow that was quick!
Yep can confirm this has fixed the problem, reloaded itl back to an
mp3 directory and window name changed to "mp3" and the speaker
selection works perfectly.

While I'm at it, I noticed that if you "accidently" deselect "My
Computer" (because you cannot see the current status due to the UI
scripting I suppose) you get a popup dialogue box which tells you that
this is invalid and then all functionality is lost because the popup
needs a response. I guess that this can only be fixed once Apple has
released a proper API as UI scripting to catch this type of thing
might be too hard. Any thoughts?

[Matt Stevens]

Thanks, glad to hear the problem is fixed!

As you suspected, the dialog that appears when attempting to disable all audio output is a result of the UI scripting and there's not much I can do about it.

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