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Francesco Benvenuti  
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 More options Apr 2 2012, 12:18 pm
From: Francesco Benvenuti <evne...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:18:15 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 2 2012 12:18 pm
Subject: Update from Sunday Sunny Allotment ...VELVET worm..

Heya all!!
a wee update from what happened this sunday at the allotment..

1)What we did
2)What need doing next wednesday
3)general notes

*1) things that were done are :*

   - We made a new bed out of stone out of the few little rotting herb
   boxes.. it look super and I think that we could use it for some potatoes..
   But Robin the architect might have had other ideas in the design..
   - We Nitrogenized (??) the asparagus.. Just put some of the dead field
   beans which were laying in a pile around the asparagus and garlic bed.. So
   they will slowly rot and release bounty tasting Nitrogen.
   - seed Potatoes have been taken out of the shelf and exposed in the sun
   (on the table in the greenhouse) *to CHIT* (see-->
   http://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/projects/basics/how-to-chit-pota...)
   . I guess we can plant them next Wednesday if FOlks are up for it. (P.S.
   they are different varieties and let's try not to mix them)
   - Weeded and watered the dry seedlings
   - Did a general clear up of the Bench (Tomatoes are taking so much space
   so we might need to find a solution)
   - Planted inside: Sweet peppers, some Nastridium, some green squash (nor
   really sure about it) :)
   - Transplanted out : 2 Sage seedlings into the herb spiral.   1
   Blackcurrant shoot, 3 wood rush (shade loving little fella)

*2) things to do:*

   - plant the leeks from the green house outside (need to thin them out)
   - Remove dead onion (last generation) from the leeks bed and plant new
   ones---
   - Plant potatoes outside in designed beds (i'll bring the map next
   wednesday)---> Some info : *Dig in well-rotted manure or garden compost
   (apply no more than one wheelbarrow-full of well-rotted strawy manure, or
   two of compost, per 10 sq metres of ground). Plant tubers into trenches or
   in individual holes, 7-15cm in depth. Cover with soil.  *
      - *1st early – 28-36cm apart, 38-50cm between rows.*
      - *2nd early & maincrop – 36-45cm apart, 65-75cm between rows*

   - Plant carrots outside (they 'll need protection from birds)
   - Thin the salads that have been sown in the bed outside.. They are all
   growing and they will compete for food.. the one we remove we can plant
   them elsewere (but ideally you want one plant every 15/18 cm?   so sad,
   but'll have to kill some :( ...
   - Plant the rocket outside
   - Some more rocket can be sown directly outside
   - Weed the spinach bed and general weeding around broccoli and all the
   rest

*3) General NOTES..*

I was thinking that we might benefit from a page where we can discuss what
we need to do (now that is the planting & growing season would be
beneficial for all so that we keep updated with what is going on?)  Maybe
the website? Robin any news on that?

   - Robin had a big find.. He excavated from its castle-home a big nasty
   and sticky New zeland worm! AMEN, we had to sacrifice it for the good of
   our beloved round earth worm-- New zealand worms indeed would
   unscrupulously kill them.. But we had an Idea, we'll  send them back to New
   Zealand with Daisy so they'll be happy again at home and stop killing..
   - There is a little asparagus island in the bed of the Jerusalemme
   Artichoke... NO IDEA how it got there but will need to be brought back in
   the home bed ideally
   - Slugs are already damaging some of the sweet peas --> suggestion: if
   you know any pub-owner or you might feel lucky we should collect "draught
   drip" beer (that pub usually throw away) and use it for keep them out. I
   once brought empy milk plastick bottles and asked them to fill them with
   the wast stuff.. :) they though i was a cheap drunken student..:)
   - Finally, The  FINE compost has kind of disappeared an d we have only
   less than two bags left.. Maybe we can start miing it with the medium or
   coarser one .,.,,,,  otherwise won't have enough for future indoor
   planting..

I think that's all.. Lot to do and it is looking beautiful!! all is
flowering (APPLE TREES TOOOO) and the RUBARB WE TRANSPLANTED HAS just GONE
MAD!!!  IT has grown soooooo much (Cornelia have a look!!)

ok ok I stop... sorry got really excited

see you wednesday!! :) blue veggies

Francesco


 
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Kasia Latham-Warde  
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 More options Apr 2 2012, 12:36 pm
From: Kasia Latham-Warde <visions_of_ea...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:36:44 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 2 2012 12:36 pm
Subject: RE: (allotment) Update from Sunday Sunny Allotment ...VELVET worm..

Hello folks..

Aw it was such a beautiful day on Sunday... it was a much deserved
afternoon in the sun away from the nasty computer thing i'm in front of
right now.

So... Francesco that was a wonderfully jam-packed update! :-) ... that
worm was crazy! I've never seen anything so slimy and greedy looking
hehe.

A couple of things to add... we seeded some kale in the greenhouse.. cos
 its just so yummy for our tummies... and parsley and coriander were
also planted in the herb spiral (with markers). Ooo and major watering action! Im going to be away for the next couple of weeks.. so just so you know if you sneak into the garden behind the allotment all hush hush then you can steal their hose :-) of course being respectful and replacing it like fairies as if we were never there..

The lovage is amazing! Its properly sprouted forth! wheeee! Maybe we can
 make an angelica-esque sweetie from the stems? That would be an
adventure!

So.... I've been thinking as well... there seems to be less emphasis on
the permaculture side of things in the allotment recently.. with many a
plant just being planted randomly (I think?!) without thought of its
ecology/effect on other plants, or its invasiveness.. or purpose. Maybe
we could have a meet just to refocus our purpose (seeing as we do call
ourselves the permaculture and allotment society) on that aspect. Maybe
we could create some kind of Information document with info about each
thing we plant?

Je ne sais pas.... but its just an idea! :-)

love from the library to wherever you may be..

Kasia x

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:18:15 +0100
Subject: (allotment) Update from Sunday Sunny Allotment ...VELVET worm..
From: evne...@gmail.com
To: allotment-and-permaculture-edinburgh@googlegroups.com

Heya all!!
a wee update from what happened this sunday at the allotment..

1)What we did
2)What need doing next wednesday
3)general notes

1) things that were done are :
We made a new bed out of stone out of the few little rotting herb boxes.. it look super and I think that we could use it for some potatoes.. But Robin the architect might have had other ideas in the design..
We Nitrogenized (??) the asparagus.. Just put some of the dead field beans which were laying in a pile around the asparagus and garlic bed.. So they will slowly rot and release bounty tasting Nitrogen.seed Potatoes have been taken out of the shelf and exposed in the sun (on the table in the greenhouse) to CHIT (see--> http://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/projects/basics/how-to-chit-pota...) . I guess we can plant them next Wednesday if FOlks are up for it. (P.S. they are different varieties and let's try not to mix them)

Weeded and watered the dry seedlingsDid a general clear up of the Bench (Tomatoes are taking so much space so we might need to find a solution)
Planted inside: Sweet peppers, some Nastridium, some green squash (nor really sure about it) :)
Transplanted out : 2 Sage seedlings into the herb spiral.   1 Blackcurrant shoot, 3 wood rush (shade loving little fella)

2) things to do:plant the leeks from the green house outside (need to thin them out)Remove dead onion (last generation) from the leeks bed and plant new ones---
Plant potatoes outside in designed beds (i'll bring the map next wednesday)---> Some info : Dig in well-rotted manure or garden compost (apply no more than one
wheelbarrow-full of well-rotted strawy manure, or two of compost, per 10
 sq metres of ground). Plant tubers into trenches or in individual
holes, 7-15cm in depth. Cover with soil.  
    1st       early – 28-36cm apart, 38-50cm between rows.2nd       early & maincrop – 36-45cm apart, 65-75cm between rows
Plant carrots outside (they 'll need protection from birds)

Thin the salads that have been sown in the bed outside.. They are all growing and they will compete for food.. the one we remove we can plant them elsewere (but ideally you want one plant every 15/18 cm?   so sad, but'll have to kill some :( ...
Plant the rocket outsideSome more rocket can be sown directly outsideWeed the spinach bed and general weeding around broccoli and all the rest
3) General NOTES..I was thinking that we might benefit from a page where we can discuss what we need to do (now that is the planting & growing season would be beneficial for all so that we keep updated with what is going on?)  Maybe the website? Robin any news on that?

Robin had a big find.. He excavated from its castle-home a big nasty and sticky New zeland worm! AMEN,
 we had to sacrifice it for the good of our beloved round earth worm--
New zealand worms indeed would unscrupulously kill them.. But we had an
Idea, we'll  send them back to New Zealand with Daisy so they'll be
happy again at home and stop killing..  There is a little asparagus island in the bed of the Jerusalemme Artichoke... NO IDEA how it got there but will need to be brought back in the home bed ideallySlugs are already damaging some of the sweet peas --> suggestion: if you know any pub-owner or you might feel lucky we should collect "draught drip" beer (that pub usually throw away) and use it for keep them out. I once brought empy milk plastick bottles and asked them to fill them with the wast stuff.. :) they though i was a cheap drunken student..:)
Finally, The  FINE compost has kind of disappeared an d we have only less than two bags left.. Maybe we can start miing it with the medium or coarser one .,.,,,,  otherwise won't have enough for future indoor planting..

I think that's all.. Lot to do and it is looking beautiful!! all is flowering (APPLE TREES TOOOO) and the RUBARB WE TRANSPLANTED HAS just GONE MAD!!!  IT has grown soooooo much (Cornelia have a look!!)

ok ok I stop... sorry got really excitedsee you wednesday!! :) blue veggies
Francesco


 
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Edward Lewis  
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 More options Apr 2 2012, 12:55 pm
From: Edward Lewis <edward.m.le...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:55:33 +0000
Local: Mon, Apr 2 2012 12:55 pm
Subject: RE: (allotment) Update from Sunday Sunny Allotment ...VELVET worm..

yeah agreed with the permaculture shout, when we were making the bed plans weeks and weeks ago we tried to accomodate for companion planting etc (of which we will have one bed (e.g. asparagus, garlic, and hopefully the marigolds growing in the greenhouse (against aphids)). It would be good to get some more research done on this, the problem was space and diversity of crops, e.g. roses are good, but aint much room for them, whilst trying to get veggies at the same time. But i totally agree, permaculture should be something we naturally do, not a nice thing that we sometimes do.

From: visions_of_ea...@hotmail.com
To: allotment-and-permaculture-edinburgh@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: (allotment) Update from Sunday Sunny Allotment ...VELVET worm..
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:36:44 +0100

Hello folks..

Aw it was such a beautiful day on Sunday... it was a much deserved
afternoon in the sun away from the nasty computer thing i'm in front of
right now.

So... Francesco that was a wonderfully jam-packed update! :-) ... that
worm was crazy! I've never seen anything so slimy and greedy looking
hehe.

A couple of things to add... we seeded some kale in the greenhouse.. cos
 its just so yummy for our tummies... and parsley and coriander were
also planted in the herb spiral (with markers). Ooo and major watering action! Im going to be away for the next couple of weeks.. so just so you know if you sneak into the garden behind the allotment all hush hush then you can steal their hose :-) of course being respectful and replacing it like fairies as if we were never there..

The lovage is amazing! Its properly sprouted forth! wheeee! Maybe we can
 make an angelica-esque sweetie from the stems? That would be an
adventure!

So.... I've been thinking as well... there seems to be less emphasis on
the permaculture side of things in the allotment recently.. with many a
plant just being planted randomly (I think?!) without thought of its
ecology/effect on other plants, or its invasiveness.. or purpose. Maybe
we could have a meet just to refocus our purpose (seeing as we do call
ourselves the permaculture and allotment society) on that aspect. Maybe
we could create some kind of Information document with info about each
thing we plant?

Je ne sais pas.... but its just an idea! :-)

love from the library to wherever you may be..

Kasia x

Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 17:18:15 +0100
Subject: (allotment) Update from Sunday Sunny Allotment ...VELVET worm..
From: evne...@gmail.com
To: allotment-and-permaculture-edinburgh@googlegroups.com

Heya all!!
a wee update from what happened this sunday at the allotment..

1)What we did
2)What need doing next wednesday
3)general notes

1) things that were done are :
We made a new bed out of stone out of the few little rotting herb boxes.. it look super and I think that we could use it for some potatoes.. But Robin the architect might have had other ideas in the design..
We Nitrogenized (??) the asparagus.. Just put some of the dead field beans which were laying in a pile around the asparagus and garlic bed.. So they will slowly rot and release bounty tasting Nitrogen.seed Potatoes have been taken out of the shelf and exposed in the sun (on the table in the greenhouse) to CHIT (see--> http://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/projects/basics/how-to-chit-pota...) . I guess we can plant them next Wednesday if FOlks are up for it. (P.S. they are different varieties and let's try not to mix them)

Weeded and watered the dry seedlingsDid a general clear up of the Bench (Tomatoes are taking so much space so we might need to find a solution)
Planted inside: Sweet peppers, some Nastridium, some green squash (nor really sure about it) :)
Transplanted out : 2 Sage seedlings into the herb spiral.   1 Blackcurrant shoot, 3 wood rush (shade loving little fella)

2) things to do:
plant the leeks from the green house outside (need to thin them out)Remove dead onion (last generation) from the leeks bed and plant new ones---
Plant potatoes outside in designed beds (i'll bring the map next wednesday)---> Some info : Dig in well-rotted manure or garden compost (apply no more than one
wheelbarrow-full of well-rotted strawy manure, or two of compost, per 10
 sq metres of ground). Plant tubers into trenches or in individual
holes, 7-15cm in depth. Cover with soil.  
    1st       early – 28-36cm apart, 38-50cm between rows.2nd       early & maincrop – 36-45cm apart, 65-75cm between rows
Plant carrots outside (they 'll need protection from birds)

Thin the salads that have been sown in the bed outside.. They are all growing and they will compete for food.. the one we remove we can plant them elsewere (but ideally you want one plant every 15/18 cm?   so sad, but'll have to kill some :( ...
Plant the rocket outsideSome more rocket can be sown directly outsideWeed the spinach bed and general weeding around broccoli and all the rest
3) General NOTES..
I was thinking that we might benefit from a page where we can discuss what we need to do (now that is the planting & growing season would be beneficial for all so that we keep updated with what is going on?)  Maybe the website? Robin any news on that?

Robin had a big find.. He excavated from its castle-home a big nasty and sticky New zeland worm! AMEN,
 we had to sacrifice it for the good of our beloved round earth worm--
New zealand worms indeed would unscrupulously kill them.. But we had an
Idea, we'll  send them back to New Zealand with Daisy so they'll be
happy again at home and stop killing..  There is a little asparagus island in the bed of the Jerusalemme Artichoke... NO IDEA how it got there but will need to be brought back in the home bed ideallySlugs are already damaging some of the sweet peas --> suggestion: if you know any pub-owner or you might feel lucky we should collect "draught drip" beer (that pub usually throw away) and use it for keep them out. I once brought empy milk plastick bottles and asked them to fill them with the wast stuff.. :) they though i was a cheap drunken student..:)
Finally, The  FINE compost has kind of disappeared an d we have only less than two bags left.. Maybe we can start miing it with the medium or coarser one .,.,,,,  otherwise won't have enough for future indoor planting..

I think that's all.. Lot to do and it is looking beautiful!! all is flowering (APPLE TREES TOOOO) and the RUBARB WE TRANSPLANTED HAS just GONE MAD!!!  IT has grown soooooo much (Cornelia have a look!!)

ok ok I stop... sorry got really excited
see you wednesday!! :) blue veggies

Francesco


 
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