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From: Abdullah M <abdullah...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 21:01:48 +0300
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Subject: |troid.org| Modern Myths Conf. [Beware]

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http://www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=445&func=view...

*Modern Myths Conf. *11 Minutes ago

*  *

Bismillaah, wal-hamdulilaah, was-salaatu was-salaamu 'alaa rasoolillaah, wa
ba'd

As Salaam 'Alaykum wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakatuh,

The following is an important note to the one who is concerned for his deen
[especially in the Toronto area], the one concerned for the Sunnah, someone
who wishes to align him/her self with Scholars of Islaam and their Students
and to be free and far removed from misguidance, partisanship and opposition
to the truth and its people.

Beware of the following conf.

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We advise our brothers/sisters who may have been invited to the
aforementioned programme to weigh upon the scales of correctness and
uprightness; their speakers, their affiliations and their statements.
Without a doubt, if one can do this, without emotional attachment, without
favouritism and bias, it will become clear that these individuals feign the
manhaj of the Salaf but in reality are from the opponents of Salafiyyah and
many who emanate from them end up upon the same conclusion.

Take note 'O Sunnee!

*Information on Abu Usamah, Saed Rageah and the connection to Abu Muslimah *
www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7061

*Sa'eed Rageah, his cooperation with Ahlul-Bid'ah since 2002*
salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum...amp;CFTOKEN=48107328<http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=321&CFID=1703...>

*Who is Abu Mulsimah?*
www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=6&Topic=103
www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_conte...d=359&Itemid=344<http://www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=359&It...>
www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_conte...d=362&Itemid=344<http://www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=362&It...>
www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_conte...d=372&Itemid=333<http://www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=372&It...>

*Who is Abu Usaamah, Yaasir Qadhee (have they been advised and directed with
patience and good manners?) and the Maghrib Institute?*
www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_conte...d=812&Itemid=344<http://www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=812&It...>

*An Important lecture and foundational understanding of who/how to take
knowledge from an individual*
______________________________________

*Be Careful Who You Take Your Deen From! *
Friday, 14 December 2007
Shaykh Ahmad Ibn 'Umar Bazmool

A lecture based upon the famous statement of Muhammad Ibn Sereen: "This
knowledge is a matter of deen, so be careful who you take your deen from."

Listen/Download 173 Min.
www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_conte...d=739&Itemid=308<http://www.troid.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=739&It...>

Review:

Due to the weakness in the Ummah and lack of comprehension of the pure
Islamic methodology, it is common in our time that an ignorant person is
taken as a person of knowledge, and that an ignorant person assumes the role
and responsibility of a speaker and caller to Islaam. Despite the mountain
of statements from the Salaf, the likes of al-Laalikaaee, al-Barabahaaree,
Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Ibn Sireen and so on imploring the Muslims to stick to the
Scholars, the people of sunnah (the jama'aah) and to stay away from doubtful
matters.

So before seeking to sit in a gathering, have you asked yourself:
- Is this person known to the scholars or their students?
- Does he have tazkiyaat of any sort?
- Who are his companions (from whom does he sit with)?
- Does he frequent the gatherings of Ahlus-Sunnah, their masaajid, seminars,
lectures etc.?
- What do the people of Sunnah and Salafiyyah in his area say about him?
- Does he cooperate with Ahlul-Bid'ah, their masaajid and programmes (is he
here, there and everywhere)?

Do you put up these roadblocks in your mind before setting out to seek
knowledge with a man? Seeing that it is from the most important affairs you
could ever set out upon...your salvation, your 'aqeedah, your path towards
paradise insha'Allaah

Shaykh Ahmad Bazmool states:

'...This is how important this is, this knowledge is deen, something that he
will be raised with on the day of judgment...the Muslim must look and take
his deen from Ahlus-Sunnah, as-Salafiyyoon, known for knowledge, being
upright and having taqwaa'

'Imaam Maalik said it is not enough for someone to be a worshipper, and to
be known for Zuhd, outward expression of worship, that you take from
them...but they did not take from them because that was not their affair
(knowledge), they were worshippers that's all. In this time we see someone
who has a lihyah (beard), his thobe above his ankles and he is then the
muftee of his area, this is a mistake!'

'It is forbidden for the one who is asked and doesn't know, to answer.
Likewise it is haraam for the one to ask one who doesn't know...he has to
ask the scholar...if you had a medical situation, would we go to a mechanic?
And if we had a problem with our car, would we go to a farmer...no we would
go to each individual who is a specialist in their field...so when it comes
to the issue of deen, we must go to the scholars, it is not right to ask
(just) anybody or do what everyone else is doing.'

''Abu Dardaa' went to the masjid one day (in the time of the tabi’een) and
he observed the people praying differently than according to the Sunnah, so
he came home angry and his wife (Ummudh-Dardaa') asked him what has made you
angry? He said, 'By Allaah I don't see anything from the time of the Prophet
(sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) except praying together (meaning that they
had abandoned much of the Sunnah). This is his statement whilst he was close
to the time of the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam). So what about
know? 1400 years after that, are general masses upon Sunnah? Are the general
masses upon knowledge? No! Rather we should follow the scholars!'

From the other points discussed:

An Important point is made about leaving off taking knowledge even from the
one who speaks with the 'Aqeedah of Ahlus-Sunnah yet he has hizbiyyah with
him or Surooriyyah with him (i.e. someone simply speaking with the haqq
doesn't make him a person of knowledge or a person to sit with)
The corrupt principle of 'taking the good/leaving the bad', making oneself a
private investigator into the affairs of many people of many different
beliefs and then appointing oneself as the criterion between what to take
and what to leave (not realising that he, himself, is ignorant, he can't
protect himself from this fitnah and this isn't from the manhaj of
Ahlus-Sunnah to sit with Ahlul-Bid'ah in this regard)

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