2.1.0-RC1, OSGi, and typesafe-config version range, etc

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Dave LeBlanc

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Nov 1, 2012, 12:36:21 AM11/1/12
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Hey Hakkers,

I know I mentioned this a while back - about the bundles having the wrong dependency version in the bundles for typesafe-config (since we're now using 1.0.0). I thought that was addressed, but it's still using an old range in the 2.1.0-RC1 deployed bundles.

We're just referencing a local copy for now, but it'd be nice to have that fixed for the next RC.

As well, I noticed that akka-remote has a dependency on uncommons-maths for some crypto stuff, but that isn't an OSGi bundle. I've added the requisite bnd stuff into their custom ant script and sent off a pull request to the maintainer, but it's something to keep in mind that would otherwise block someone from using remote actors with OSGi.

Thanks, and keep up the great work.

 -Dave

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√iktor Ҡlang

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Nov 1, 2012, 4:21:29 AM11/1/12
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Hi Dave,

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Hakkers,

I know I mentioned this a while back - about the bundles having the wrong dependency version in the bundles for typesafe-config (since we're now using 1.0.0). I thought that was addressed, but it's still using an old range in the 2.1.0-RC1 deployed bundles.


 

We're just referencing a local copy for now, but it'd be nice to have that fixed for the next RC.

As well, I noticed that akka-remote has a dependency on uncommons-maths for some crypto stuff, but that isn't an OSGi bundle. I've added the requisite bnd stuff into their custom ant script and sent off a pull request to the maintainer, but it's something to keep in mind that would otherwise block someone from using remote actors with OSGi.

Alright, cool. The alternative is to just install it as a bundle?
 

Thanks, and keep up the great work.

Thanks for helping us out here!

Cheers,
√
 

 -Dave

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Dave LeBlanc

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Nov 1, 2012, 12:07:27 PM11/1/12
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:21 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Hakkers,

I know I mentioned this a while back - about the bundles having the wrong dependency version in the bundles for typesafe-config (since we're now using 1.0.0). I thought that was addressed, but it's still using an old range in the 2.1.0-RC1 deployed bundles.


 

Yeah, that's what I thought, so I was surprised that the RC1 jars don't have the updated range.

 

We're just referencing a local copy for now, but it'd be nice to have that fixed for the next RC.

As well, I noticed that akka-remote has a dependency on uncommons-maths for some crypto stuff, but that isn't an OSGi bundle. I've added the requisite bnd stuff into their custom ant script and sent off a pull request to the maintainer, but it's something to keep in mind that would otherwise block someone from using remote actors with OSGi.

Alright, cool. The alternative is to just install it as a bundle?

Not sure what you mean. The uncommons-jar isn't an OSGi bundle as it stands (so it can't be installed in an OSGi container), and the work I did just makes it a valid bundle that we're able to install. We'll be waiting on the maintainer to apply those changes and get them applied to Maven Central though. You can see the pull request here: https://github.com/dwdyer/uncommons-maths/pull/5

I suppose you guys could also host a local copy of uncommons maths that's bundleified too. For the time being that's probably a better idea.
 
 

Thanks, and keep up the great work.

Thanks for helping us out here!

My pleasure :)



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Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com>

√iktor Ҡlang

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Nov 1, 2012, 1:38:45 PM11/1/12
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:21 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Hakkers,

I know I mentioned this a while back - about the bundles having the wrong dependency version in the bundles for typesafe-config (since we're now using 1.0.0). I thought that was addressed, but it's still using an old range in the 2.1.0-RC1 deployed bundles.


 

Yeah, that's what I thought, so I was surprised that the RC1 jars don't have the updated range.

Oh, it was fixed _after_ RC1 :-)
 

 

We're just referencing a local copy for now, but it'd be nice to have that fixed for the next RC.

As well, I noticed that akka-remote has a dependency on uncommons-maths for some crypto stuff, but that isn't an OSGi bundle. I've added the requisite bnd stuff into their custom ant script and sent off a pull request to the maintainer, but it's something to keep in mind that would otherwise block someone from using remote actors with OSGi.

Alright, cool. The alternative is to just install it as a bundle?

Not sure what you mean. The uncommons-jar isn't an OSGi bundle as it stands (so it can't be installed in an OSGi container), and the work I did just makes it a valid bundle that we're able to install. We'll be waiting on the maintainer to apply those changes and get them applied to Maven Central though. You can see the pull request here: https://github.com/dwdyer/uncommons-maths/pull/5

I'm no OSGi expert, but I'm pretty sure it's possible to manually install jars as bundles, just like you can install files into Maven (install-file) even though they are not Maven Artifacts (with poms)
 

I suppose you guys could also host a local copy of uncommons maths that's bundleified too. For the time being that's probably a better idea.

Lets see what they say at uncommons-maths. The alternative is for a kind soul to reimplement what we use from them natively for Akka. (Pull Requests are more than welcome)

Cheers,
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Dave LeBlanc

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Nov 1, 2012, 2:23:01 PM11/1/12
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:38 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:21 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Hakkers,

I know I mentioned this a while back - about the bundles having the wrong dependency version in the bundles for typesafe-config (since we're now using 1.0.0). I thought that was addressed, but it's still using an old range in the 2.1.0-RC1 deployed bundles.


 

Yeah, that's what I thought, so I was surprised that the RC1 jars don't have the updated range.

Oh, it was fixed _after_ RC1 :-)

Ok, good stuff - just wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in some bit vortex somewhere.
 
 

 

We're just referencing a local copy for now, but it'd be nice to have that fixed for the next RC.

As well, I noticed that akka-remote has a dependency on uncommons-maths for some crypto stuff, but that isn't an OSGi bundle. I've added the requisite bnd stuff into their custom ant script and sent off a pull request to the maintainer, but it's something to keep in mind that would otherwise block someone from using remote actors with OSGi.

Alright, cool. The alternative is to just install it as a bundle?

Not sure what you mean. The uncommons-jar isn't an OSGi bundle as it stands (so it can't be installed in an OSGi container), and the work I did just makes it a valid bundle that we're able to install. We'll be waiting on the maintainer to apply those changes and get them applied to Maven Central though. You can see the pull request here: https://github.com/dwdyer/uncommoncs-maths/pull/5

I'm no OSGi expert, but I'm pretty sure it's possible to manually install jars as bundles, just like you can install files into Maven (install-file) even though they are not Maven Artifacts (with poms)

Not as far as I know - there are ways, but nothing that's particularly easy or elegant. What we've done is about as clean as it gets.
 
 

I suppose you guys could also host a local copy of uncommons maths that's bundleified too. For the time being that's probably a better idea.

Lets see what they say at uncommons-maths. The alternative is for a kind soul to reimplement what we use from them natively for Akka. (Pull Requests are more than welcome)

I'll take a quick look, but my bandwidth is a little limited right now.

Thanks,

 -Dave



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Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com>

√iktor Ҡlang

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Nov 1, 2012, 2:27:22 PM11/1/12
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:38 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:21 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Hakkers,

I know I mentioned this a while back - about the bundles having the wrong dependency version in the bundles for typesafe-config (since we're now using 1.0.0). I thought that was addressed, but it's still using an old range in the 2.1.0-RC1 deployed bundles.


 

Yeah, that's what I thought, so I was surprised that the RC1 jars don't have the updated range.

Oh, it was fixed _after_ RC1 :-)

Ok, good stuff - just wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in some bit vortex somewhere.

Good call, ideally I'd like to have the OSGi SBT plugin actually verify such things instead of risking out-of-synch issues.
 
 
 

 

We're just referencing a local copy for now, but it'd be nice to have that fixed for the next RC.

As well, I noticed that akka-remote has a dependency on uncommons-maths for some crypto stuff, but that isn't an OSGi bundle. I've added the requisite bnd stuff into their custom ant script and sent off a pull request to the maintainer, but it's something to keep in mind that would otherwise block someone from using remote actors with OSGi.

Alright, cool. The alternative is to just install it as a bundle?

Not sure what you mean. The uncommons-jar isn't an OSGi bundle as it stands (so it can't be installed in an OSGi container), and the work I did just makes it a valid bundle that we're able to install. We'll be waiting on the maintainer to apply those changes and get them applied to Maven Central though. You can see the pull request here: https://github.com/dwdyer/uncommoncs-maths/pull/5

I'm no OSGi expert, but I'm pretty sure it's possible to manually install jars as bundles, just like you can install files into Maven (install-file) even though they are not Maven Artifacts (with poms)

Not as far as I know - there are ways, but nothing that's particularly easy or elegant. What we've done is about as clean as it gets.

 
 
 

I suppose you guys could also host a local copy of uncommons maths that's bundleified too. For the time being that's probably a better idea.

Lets see what they say at uncommons-maths. The alternative is for a kind soul to reimplement what we use from them natively for Akka. (Pull Requests are more than welcome)

I'll take a quick look, but my bandwidth is a little limited right now.

Thanks, my bandwidth is negative ;-)

Cheers,
√

Dave LeBlanc

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Nov 5, 2012, 1:01:45 PM11/5/12
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:27 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:38 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:21 AM, √iktor Ҡlang <viktor...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Hakkers,

I know I mentioned this a while back - about the bundles having the wrong dependency version in the bundles for typesafe-config (since we're now using 1.0.0). I thought that was addressed, but it's still using an old range in the 2.1.0-RC1 deployed bundles.


 

Yeah, that's what I thought, so I was surprised that the RC1 jars don't have the updated range.

Oh, it was fixed _after_ RC1 :-)

Ok, good stuff - just wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in some bit vortex somewhere.

Good call, ideally I'd like to have the OSGi SBT plugin actually verify such things instead of risking out-of-synch issues.

Good idea
 
 
 
 

 

We're just referencing a local copy for now, but it'd be nice to have that fixed for the next RC.

As well, I noticed that akka-remote has a dependency on uncommons-maths for some crypto stuff, but that isn't an OSGi bundle. I've added the requisite bnd stuff into their custom ant script and sent off a pull request to the maintainer, but it's something to keep in mind that would otherwise block someone from using remote actors with OSGi.

Alright, cool. The alternative is to just install it as a bundle?

Not sure what you mean. The uncommons-jar isn't an OSGi bundle as it stands (so it can't be installed in an OSGi container), and the work I did just makes it a valid bundle that we're able to install. We'll be waiting on the maintainer to apply those changes and get them applied to Maven Central though. You can see the pull request here: https://github.com/dwdyer/uncommoncs-maths/pull/5

I'm no OSGi expert, but I'm pretty sure it's possible to manually install jars as bundles, just like you can install files into Maven (install-file) even though they are not Maven Artifacts (with poms)

Not as far as I know - there are ways, but nothing that's particularly easy or elegant. What we've done is about as clean as it gets.

 

That will work for really simple dependencies (ie: in this particular case), but we're trying to steer away from doing too much at runtime. It's a workable solution though.

I heard back from the maintainer - he'll look into applying it, but it could take ~1.5 weeks.
 
 
 

I suppose you guys could also host a local copy of uncommons maths that's bundleified too. For the time being that's probably a better idea.

Lets see what they say at uncommons-maths. The alternative is for a kind soul to reimplement what we use from them natively for Akka. (Pull Requests are more than welcome)

I'll take a quick look, but my bandwidth is a little limited right now.

Thanks, my bandwidth is negative ;-)

:)



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Dave LeBlanc <david....@gmail.com>

√iktor Ҡlang

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Nov 5, 2012, 1:04:48 PM11/5/12
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That may be too late. We need to cut RC2 tomorrow, and there might be no RC3.

Might have to go into 2.1.1

Cheers,
V

Dave LeBlanc

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Nov 5, 2012, 1:13:19 PM11/5/12
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I think that's probably ok on my side - I should be able to depend on the slightly newer OSGi version of uncommons maths on the karaf side, and have it use that to resolve those packages instead.

Thanks,

 - Dave
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