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Mark W. Thomas  
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 More options Jul 9 2008, 4:33 pm
From: "Mark W. Thomas" <m_w_tho...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:33:26 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 9 2008 4:33 pm
Subject: IT'S A FRACKIN' CRACKER!

IT'S A FRACKIN’ CRACKER!
Category: Religion • Stupidity
Posted on: July 8, 2008 8:05 PM, by PZ Myers

There are days when it is agony to read the news, because people are so
goddamned stupid. Petty and stupid. Hateful and stupid. Just plain stupid.
And nothing makes them stupider than religion.

Here's a story that will destroy your hopes for a reasonable humanity.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/its_a_goddamned_cracker.php


 
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Joseph W. Foley  
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 More options Jul 11 2008, 12:51 am
From: "Joseph W. Foley" <jwfo...@stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:51:23 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 11 2008 12:51 am
Subject: Re: [AHA!] IT'S A FRACKIN' CRACKER!
Updates:

1. The student gave the Church its cracker/savior back: ttp://www.wftv.com/news/16806050/detail.html
2. The Catholic League (i.e. Bill Donohue) condemned PZ Myers for proposing to desecrate a communion wafer if someone provides one, and he broke his hate-mail record: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/fight_back_against_bill_donohu.php

Question: Should he do it? If someone manages to steal an official, consecrated "Host" from a Catholic service, should Myers really publish photos of it being vandalized?

This would bring a lot of attention to one religion's rather extreme reverence for a small foodlike object, but only at the direct expense of the adherents' emotional distress. No one has the right to claim offense just because someone else believes or says something they disagree with; Myers is welcome to say loudly that a cracker is always just a cracker, and he's welcome to make or buy a similar-looking one for use in graphic art. But to at least one of the parties involved, dishonoring the stolen Eucharist would be more than just an act of free speech: they believe, as they're free to do, that the cracker is a transubstantiation of their Savior's actual Body, and Myers would be corporally abusing It/Him. Eating it is one of the most important parts of their religion, perhaps the most important – "excommunication" literally refers to being denied the Holy Communion. Most importantly, the only reason this proposal is interesting is because it would make a lot of people very upset. But it's beyond just "offense;" the members of the Florida church prayed for their own pardon because they were responsible for losing the anointed wafer. As far as they're concerned, he'd be causing them tangible spiritual harm, and as far as he's concerned, that's precisely why it's exciting.

What do you think? Should he leave the Body of Christ alone?


Joe


P.S. This response has also been posted on Hemant Mehta's blog, The Friendly Atheist: http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/07/10/wafergate/


On 7/9/2008 1:33 PM, Mark W. Thomas wrote:

IT'S A FRACKIN’ CRACKER!

Category: ReligionStupidity
Posted on: July 8, 2008 8:05 PM, by PZ Myers

There are days when it is agony to read the news, because people are so goddamned stupid. Petty and stupid. Hateful and stupid. Just plain stupid. And nothing makes them stupider than religion.

Here's a story that will destroy your hopes for a reasonable humanity.






 
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