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miracle9  
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 More options Mar 17, 3:08 am
From: miracle9 <qun.3...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 00:08:51 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 3:08 am
Subject: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训
http://www.scrumalliance.org/courses/1915-certified-scrummaster
看到这上面的课程信息,不知道大家有没有也想去参加的?能否给点意见?!谢谢

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pengfei wang  
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From: "pengfei wang" <roc...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:22:50 +0800
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 3:22 am
Subject: Re: [agilechina] 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训

软件这行当的吸引力之一就是有较浓的自由和开放色彩. 所以涉及到什么收费认证,
就有点不爽了。IEEE一直想搞软件开发的职业资格认证,一直搞不起来,我想大概就是这原因。

反正这类认证即便是免费再倒补贴我午餐费我都不愿意参加。当然人家也不会给我免费午餐哈

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Gmark  
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From: Gmark <mark....@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:16:35 +0800
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 6:16 am
Subject: Re: [agilechina] Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训

自由不是免费.
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pengfei wang  
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 More options Mar 17, 8:40 am
From: "pengfei wang" <roc...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:40:17 +0800
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 8:40 am
Subject: Re: [agilechina] Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训

我是指这个认证言的,不是探讨自由是否是免费的问题。

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jayden guan  
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 More options Mar 17, 10:21 am
From: "jayden guan" <jayden.g...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:21:27 +0800
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 10:21 am
Subject: Re: [agilechina] Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训
这个问题问错对象了,作为开发人员兴趣肯定是有的,但费用过高。
这个问题应该问公司,而不是作为开发人员的个人。

在 08-3-17,pengfei wang<roc...@gmail.com> 写道:


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陈之过  
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 More options Mar 17, 9:36 pm
From: "陈之过" <chenzhigu...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:36:01 +0800
Local: Mon, Mar 17 2008 9:36 pm
Subject: Re: [agilechina] Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训

这个不是针对开发人员的吧,至少我认为是这样的

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miracle9  
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 More options Mar 18, 1:09 am
From: miracle9 <qun.3...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:09:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Mar 18 2008 1:09 am
Subject: Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训
谢谢大家啊!其实有时候也可以把收费认证看作一块敲门砖,
就像大学文凭一样,虽然不能代表一个人的能力,但是没有的话又不好找工作,
既然全球都有Scrum培训,那我们也自然要与时俱进了!

或许这个认证课程还真能带来什么好东西呢!!呵呵

培训费用我个人也觉得过高,但是看了一下ScrumAlliance上的课程列表,
这个好像又是比较优惠的,大概就这个行情吧。
最好公司能掏钱就好了!:)

所以我打算和老板提议一下,看看上面能不能批,
多拿个证书也不错,有应该比没有要好!  :)

大家还有什么不同的看法欢迎一起探讨啊!学习中~~

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ozzzzzz.liu@gmail.com  
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 More options Mar 18, 4:16 am
From: "ozzzzzz....@gmail.com" <ozzzzzz....@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 01:16:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Mar 18 2008 4:16 am
Subject: Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训
此认证自打一推出,就引起非常多的争论。包括推出者自己,都承认这个认证用处有限。而就其内容来说,我觉得也很奇怪。同时我非常怀疑他们能够在国内找到
合适的教师(其实即便在国际范围内,我觉得合格的教师也不多)。
不想对scrum说太多,太多得罪人。

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咖啡屋的鼠标  
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 More options Mar 18, 4:26 am
From: "咖啡屋的鼠标" <tj19...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:26:10 +0800
Local: Tues, Mar 18 2008 4:26 am
Subject: Re: [agilechina] Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训

认证真是一到国内就变味。
目前过CMMI中,看到认证二字就头大。

在08-3-18,ozzzzzz....@gmail.com <ozzzzzz....@gmail.com> 写道:

> 此认证自打一推出,就引起非常多的争论。包括推出者自己,都承认这个认证用处有限。而就其内容来说,我觉得也很奇怪。同时我非常怀疑他们能够在国内找到
> 合适的教师(其实即便在国际范围内,我觉得合格的教师也不多)。
> 不想对scrum说太多,太多得罪人。

> On Mar 17, 3:08 pm, miracle9 <qun.3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.scrumalliance.org/courses/1915-certified-scrummaster
> > 看到这上面的课程信息,不知道大家有没有也想去参加的?能否给点意见?!谢谢

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Larry Cai  
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 More options Mar 18, 4:27 am
From: "Larry Cai" <larry.ca...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:27:00 +0800
Subject: Re: [agilechina] Re: 关于即将在上海举办的ScrumMaster培训

我觉得老师都是不错的,能够学到不少东西。我参加过其他老师的。可能还没有中国的老师吧?
任何认证都有两面性。
如果你在尝试或使用agile/scrum,那就去了解讨论一下。

我一般声称我是Certificated ScrumMaster (50$加两天的培训) , Scott Amber 建议的。

2008/3/18 ozzzzzz....@gmail.com <ozzzzzz....@gmail.com>:

> 此认证自打一推出,就引起非常多的争论。包括推出者自己,都承认这个认证用处有限。而就其内容来说,我觉得也很奇怪。同时我非常怀疑他们能够在国内找到
> 合适的教师(其实即便在国际范围内,我觉得合格的教师也不多)。
> 不想对scrum说太多,太多得罪人。

> On Mar 17, 3:08 pm, miracle9 <qun.3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.scrumalliance.org/courses/1915-certified-scrummaster
> > 看到这上面的课程信息,不知道大家有没有也想去参加的?能否给点意见?!谢谢

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From: "徐毅" <kaverj