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Max Pendyschtschuk  
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 More options May 16 2007, 11:22 am
From: Max Pendyschtschuk <gotischer...@yahoo.de>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:22:52 -0700
Local: Wed, May 16 2007 11:22 am
Subject: Innovation games
Hello, agile community,

Have the following question: does anybody use innovation games at the
dealing with customer? Could you share some experience?

Thanks,
Maxym


 
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 More options May 16 2007, 1:23 pm
From: Artem Marchenko <artem.marche...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:23:44 -0700
Local: Wed, May 16 2007 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: Innovation games
Do you mean something like requirement workshop, where you play with
funny things? Does planning poker count?

-Artem

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 More options May 17 2007, 2:24 am
From: Max Pendyschtschuk <gotischer...@yahoo.de>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:24:21 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Thurs, May 17 2007 2:24 am
Subject: RE: [agile-ukraine] Re: Innovation games

Hello, Artem,
  thanks for your interest.

  "requirement workshop" - hm, if you mean the game, called "planning box" - yes :) It's the game, which looks like auction... You ask your customers to make "product boxes" where is written what their products can do and to sell it to another customers. In such way you can see which functionality your customers really need, feature wanted and so on. And of course you will have "product-winner"...
  I think there are many funny and interesting games, and it's interesting to have some feedback  - what customers think about this non-trivial way of "cooperation", results etc.

  About Planning poker - I don't know whether it is kind of innovation game... Unfortunately...

  all the best,
  Maxym.

Artem Marchenko <artem.marche...@gmail.com> schrieb:

Do you mean something like requirement workshop, where you play with
funny things? Does planning poker count?

-Artem

On 16 НБК, 18:22, Max Pendyschtschuk wrote:

> Hello, agile community,

> Have the following question: does anybody use innovation games at the
> dealing with customer? Could you share some experience?

> Thanks,
> Maxym

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 More options May 18 2007, 10:03 am
From: Artem Marchenko <artem.marche...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:03:03 -0000
Local: Fri, May 18 2007 10:03 am
Subject: Re: Innovation games
Here is a whole web site on innovation games. Have a look:
http://www.innovationgames.com/Games.aspx

Best regards,
Artem.

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 More options May 18 2007, 11:23 am
From: Max Pendyschtschuk <gotischer...@yahoo.de>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 17:23:53 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Fri, May 18 2007 11:23 am
Subject: RE: [agile-ukraine] Re: Innovation games

Thanks, I saw this site in the past, can't say anything... I was more interesting in this book:
  http://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Games-Creating-Breakthrough-Collabor...
  but I want to know impression before to buy it...

  I got an answer, that Planning poker is just funny tool, but isn't Innovation game.

  Do you read this site? Have you make your opinion about this part of colloboration? It sounds very interesting, e.g. this Planning Box we can use even in company to gather the opinions / wishes of our co-workers, to make process more funny...

  Really interesting, should be investigated.

  all the best,
  Maxym

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Here is a whole web site on innovation games. Have a look:
http://www.innovationgames.com/Games.aspx

Best regards,
Artem.

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 More options May 20 2007, 4:43 am
From: krivitsky <alexeykrivit...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 08:43:46 -0000
Local: Sun, May 20 2007 4:43 am
Subject: Re: Innovation games
Макс,

Спасиба за ссылку на книгу. Она есть так же на safari
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321437292?tocview=true

Я думаю, что приведенные игры будут полезны команде, которая хочет
более эффективно работать со своими заказчиками.
К сожалению, как мне кажется, ментальность украинца не позволяет
серьёзно относиться к играм как к инструментам работы.
В этом, наверное, прокол нашего сверхсерьёзного образования - мы почти
не играем в игры на уроках/парах... Хотя, всем известно, что игры -
это один из наиболее эффективных способов обучения...

С другой стороны, люди, пришедшие к agile, как мне кажется, уже
сделали существенный шаг из рамок своего опыта, и должны быть готовы к
применению "несерьёзных" техник для повышения эффективности своей
работы. :)

Леша.

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 More options May 21 2007, 2:01 am
From: Max Pendyschtschuk <gotischer...@yahoo.de>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:01:53 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Mon, May 21 2007 2:01 am
Subject: RE: [agile-ukraine] Re: Innovation games

Олексію,

  ну якщо б я несерйозно відносився до цих ігор, я б не питав :)
  мене цікавить якраз відношення клієнтів, а вони з заходу...
а на рахунок корисності для команди - я планув все ж таки розібратися з цим усім і використовувати при вирішенні принаймні внутрішніх питань, подивлюся що з того вийде...

  відносно менталітету - суперечливе твердження, я намагаюся все перетворити на гру, так ефективніше і людям більше подобається... ось тому я і зацікавився цими іграми...

  дякую за опис своєї думки,
  Максим

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  Макс,

Спасиба за ссылку на книгу. Она есть так же на safari
http://safari.oreilly.com/0321437292?tocview=true

Я думаю, что приведенные игры будут полезны команде, которая хочет
более эффективно работать со своими заказчиками.
К сожалению, как мне кажется, ментальность украинца не позволяет
серьёзно относиться к играм как к инструментам работы.
В этом, наверное, прокол нашего сверхсерьёзного образования - мы почти
не играем в игры на уроках/парах... Хотя, всем известно, что игры -
это один из наиболее эффективных способов обучения...

С другой стороны, люди, пришедшие к agile, как мне кажется, уже
сделали существенный шаг из рамок своего опыта, и должны быть готовы к
применению "несерьёзных" техник для повышения эффективности своей
работы. :)

Леша.

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 More options May 21 2007, 3:15 am
From: "Alexey Krivitsky" <alexeykrivit...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:15:49 +0200
Local: Mon, May 21 2007 3:15 am
Subject: Re: [agile-ukraine] Re: Innovation games
Привет всем,

вот тут Артём поместил много полезных ссылок на тему игр
http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com/innovation-games-buy-a-feature

Алексей.

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 More options May 21 2007, 3:58 am
From: Max Pendyschtschuk <gotischer...@yahoo.de>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 09:58:14 +0200 (CEST)
Local: Mon, May 21 2007 3:58 am
Subject: RE: [agile-ukraine] Re: Innovation games

дякую за лінк,

  > вот тут Артём поместил много полезных ссылок на тему игр

Тепер мій інтерес значно виріс :))

всього найкращого,

Максим

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