Accordingly to Steve McConnal, certification is something that shows that branch is already mature enough to have well recognized specialists. I think we have at least one in our group ;)
"New York, Sep. 05, 2006 - Luxoft, Russia's leading provider of end-to- end information technology services and solutions, announced today that Askhat Urazbaev, an Agile project manager in its Moscow development center, has received certification as a ScrumMaster to manage Agile projects in SCRUM methodology. Certification for Agile is new, but is gaining traction as the use of Agile methodology expands, according to industry analysts."
So, my appeal is could you provide useful link where everybody can see the order of cerification and some learning program. Questions: - What is SCRUM certification? - What is Agile methodology certification? - Do we have certification center somewhere in Ukraine?
> Accordingly to Steve McConnal, certification is something that shows > that branch is already mature enough to have well recognized > specialists. I think we have at least one in our group ;)
> "New York, Sep. 05, 2006 - Luxoft, Russia's leading provider of end-to- > end information technology services and solutions, announced today > that Askhat Urazbaev, an Agile project manager in its Moscow > development center, has received certification as a ScrumMaster to > manage Agile projects in SCRUM methodology. Certification for Agile is > new, but is gaining traction as the use of Agile methodology expands, > according to industry analysts."
> So, my appeal is could you provide useful link where everybody can see > the order of cerification and some learning program. > Questions: > - What is SCRUM certification? > - What is Agile methodology certification? > - Do we have certification center somewhere in Ukraine?
My name is Michael Vizdos and I am a Certified Scrum Trainer. I am interested in conducting courses in the Ukraine (and other locations near there). If you are interested in discussing options to organize a course (or a series of courses there), please contact me off-list or we can start a new thread here.
I submitted a paper for the conference in Moscow but, due to the large number of submissions, I was turned down. I successfully present a workshop called, "Scrum in the Real World" at conferences and in private sessions.
It is a cartoon-based blog that addresses issues related to implementing Scrum at various locations. If people are interested in translating any of the text for me, please let me know off-list.
> Accordingly to Steve McConnal, certification is something that shows > that branch is already mature enough to have well recognized > specialists. I think we have at least one in our group ;)
> "New York, Sep. 05, 2006 - Luxoft, Russia's leading provider of end-to- > end information technology services and solutions, announced today > that Askhat Urazbaev, an Agile project manager in its Moscow > development center, has received certification as a ScrumMaster to > manage Agile projects in SCRUM methodology. Certification for Agile is > new, but is gaining traction as the use of Agile methodology expands, > according to industry analysts."
> So, my appeal is could you provide useful link where everybody can see > the order of cerification and some learning program. > Questions: > - What is SCRUM certification? > - What is Agile methodology certification? > - Do we have certification center somewhere in Ukraine?
> Accordingly to Steve McConnal, certification is something that shows > that branch is already mature enough to have well recognized > specialists. I think we have at least one in our group ;)
> "New York, Sep. 05, 2006 - Luxoft, Russia's leading provider of end-to- > end information technology services and solutions, announced today > that Askhat Urazbaev, an Agile project manager in its Moscow > development center, has received certification as a ScrumMaster to > manage Agile projects in SCRUM methodology. Certification for Agile is > new, but is gaining traction as the use of Agile methodology expands, > according to industry analysts."
> So, my appeal is could you provide useful link where everybody can see > the order of cerification and some learning program. > Questions: > - What is SCRUM certification? > - What is Agile methodology certification? > - Do we have certification center somewhere in Ukraine?
It is quite interesting and is aligned with my vision. CSM course (which I never did yet, so what I know comes from the 3rd hands):
- you will certainly pass the certification - only if you're absent 2 days out of 2 days, you won't get it
- being a CSM doesn't absolutely mean you are a good CSM (Ken Schwaber in his book "Agile Project Management with Scrum" provides examples from his experience when a newly-made CSM was not capable of filling his position properly...
- to become a certified trainer seems is much harder and implies you really have the right experience and understanding
Maybe Michael can give his vision on CSM as he is a trainer conducting this kind of courses.
Michael, the guys who leave your course holding their CSM medals, are they 100% capable of doing Scrum? Do you have any doubts in them? Did you ever not give CSM to anybody who attended your course but was really not good enough?
Thanks! Alexey
On 2/16/07, Vasiliy Keretsman <vasi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2:53 pm, borys.leb...@gmail.com wrote: > > Accordingly to Steve McConnal, certification is something that shows > > that branch is already mature enough to have well recognized > > specialists. I think we have at least one in our group ;)
> > "New York, Sep. 05, 2006 - Luxoft, Russia's leading provider of end-to- > > end information technology services and solutions, announced today > > that Askhat Urazbaev, an Agile project manager in its Moscow > > development center, has received certification as a ScrumMaster to > > manage Agile projects in SCRUM methodology. Certification for Agile is > > new, but is gaining traction as the use of Agile methodology expands, > > according to industry analysts."
> > So, my appeal is could you provide useful link where everybody can see > > the order of cerification and some learning program. > > Questions: > > - What is SCRUM certification? > > - What is Agile methodology certification? > > - Do we have certification center somewhere in Ukraine?
The main purpose of the class is not to identify people who "get it" or are even capable of leaving the two days with the ability to start running a Scrum team. The main purpose is to have face-to-face communication with people who are taking the class, see that the basics are provided (all trainers follow a set of guidelines), and that is really it.
I will not "certify" people who bang away at email all day (or are leaving the room to talk on their phones). I want and expect people to be engaged and active during the two days.
I would say that most people I have taught do not "get it" leaving the course. As frustrating as that is, one of the other paths to consider after becoming a CSM is to become a Practitioner and then a Trainer, which have more stringent requirements.
I do think the industry and overall agile community will self-police this and it will continue to inspect and adapt, which I see as a great thing overall.
I am totally open and honest about this during my sessions. One thing I can say is that people do understand the basics and have a level-set of the basics and I do warn people not to go "uuber religious Scrum" when they return to their real world environments or they may [will] be rejected immediately.
> It is quite interesting and is aligned with my vision. > CSM course (which I never did yet, so what I know comes from the 3rd hands):
> - you will certainly pass the certification - only if you're absent 2 > days out of 2 days, you won't get it
> - being a CSM doesn't absolutely mean you are a good CSM (Ken Schwaber > in his book "Agile Project Management with Scrum" provides examples > from his experience when a newly-made CSM was not capable of filling > his position properly...
> - to become a certified trainer seems is much harder and implies you > really have the right > experience and understanding
> Maybe Michael can give his vision on CSM as he is a trainer conducting > this kind of courses.
> Michael, the guys who leave your course holding their CSM medals, are > they 100% capable of doing Scrum? Do you have any doubts in them? > Did you ever not give CSM to anybody who attended your course but was > really not good enough?
> Thanks! > Alexey
> On 2/16/07, Vasiliy Keretsman <vasi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi!
> > May be interesting. It seems there are different opinions regarding > > Agile Certifications (CSM etc). > > Agile Certification Debate Heats Up
> > On Feb 13, 2:53 pm, borys.leb...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Accordingly to Steve McConnal, certification is something that shows > > > that branch is already mature enough to have well recognized > > > specialists. I think we have at least one in our group ;)
> > > "New York, Sep. 05, 2006 - Luxoft, Russia's leading provider of end-to- > > > end information technology services and solutions, announced today > > > that Askhat Urazbaev, an Agile project manager in its Moscow > > > development center, has received certification as a ScrumMaster to > > > manage Agile projects in SCRUM methodology. Certification for Agile is > > > new, but is gaining traction as the use of Agile methodology expands, > > > according to industry analysts."
> > > So, my appeal is could you provide useful link where everybody can see > > > the order of cerification and some learning program. > > > Questions: > > > - What is SCRUM certification? > > > - What is Agile methodology certification? > > > - Do we have certification center somewhere in Ukraine?
