My brother
Bob1357
Very much in the dark.
Clueless.
How do explain?
Will he get it?
We have never really talked, other than idol chit chat and about work.
He stopped by today, we talked for over two hours.
He has been searching and pursuing as I have for close to as long as I
have.
We are on the same page, same understanding, same everything.
The only difference is, is that he chose a to go to a church and read
the bible.
How does this happen?
I was worried about him.
He was worried about me.
Co - incident
Pretty awesome.
godszen
you have gathered
if something seems interesting it may be pursued...
Rodger
Have you ever looked into that word...what it is,what it means? I was
raised (conditioned) to believe that if one didn't worry,one didn't
care.I used to worry a lot.And,I'll bet you've heard the story of
those who worry about having nothing to worry about.
Later it was brought to my attention that worry is essentially a fear
of the dark...the same dark we're all in.Worry is the reaction to,the
mental activity produced.Which in turn reacts on the body.
The worry over the possibility of drowning prevents us from even
getting in the water,which prevents the possibility of learning to
swim.
Worry is a negative projection of what might be.The negative
projection of what might be produces what is,here and now.
Fear of the dark and negative projection of what might be there in the
dark are co-incidents of what is,as what is.
"What you see right now is advaita". (Swami Dayananda Saraswati)
What you see right here,right now is advaita...is not-two.
Anyway,I was just wondering if worry is what you meant.
Richard
"The world don't move to the beat of just one drum
What might be right for you
Might not be right for some.
It takes different strokes
Different strokes
Different strokes to move the world."
What you talkin' 'bout Richard?
Bob1357
projection of what might be produces what is,here and now".
I was worried that, well to be honest, and these are my true thoughts:
"He would get left behind"
No need to pick that statement to pieces.
It is what I thought and how I felt.
Maybe I am on the wrong trek here, but my belief is that if a person
stays in the dark all their life, when the body dies, the cycle of
life will begin again and again and again.
This will continue until the cycle of life is broken.
How is it broken?
I'm not exactly sure, but I think I am moving in the right direction.
For all I know, the Mayan calender cycle may be this:
December 26, 2012, Bob becomes enlightened.
My cycle ends.
Or everyone becomes enlightened.
Everyone's cycle ends.
Who knows, all I can do is just be, and keep plugging away.
Rodger
haven't been posted.Anyway,I said something like this...
no need to pick that statement to pieces? What do you think AdvaitaNow
is about?
Ok,fuck it then.I'll go have a beer.
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Bob1357
over my shoulder when I ever I type something within this forum.
"No need" and "Do not" are not the same Rodger.
The reason I stated that is because I know it is a mental construct,
but I do have to admit that I have very strong feelings about the
leaving behind thing.
Pick away
Enjoy your beer Rodger, I have to go pick out a laptop for my wife,
then maybe I'll go have one too.
Rodger
I hope your wife likes the laptop.
My wife like it whenever I give her one.
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Ram
Find out what the 'person' is and be through with all of this
silliness.
I understand that you don't think it is silly, but it really is only a
bunch of nonsense. No offense intended.
What is born? What dies?
Going ahead, leaving behind, superior, inferior, enlightened,
unenlightened; all of these relate only to the concepts of "me" and
"others."
Rodger
What about silliness and nonsense? What do they relate to?
Find out what the silly is and be through with all this
relationshipness.
Rodger
So,they are different Rodgers?
You callin' me a mental construct?
Talk about strong feelings.
Once said to me is,emotions are energy carrying a message.
To emote is to move and one moves according to the message which is
the thought.
I've heard tell that the mind grows on what it feeds on,and that you
are what you eat.I once saw a girl wearing a t-shirt with this written
on it...'if it's true you are what you eat,you could be me by
morning'.
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DIK
It gives you something to do,
But doesn't get you anywhere.
Anon
Ram
When undue importance or fascination is given to the content of
thoughts, and accordingly there is an impulse to act based upon that
content, the mind and life are filled with problems. Fascination with
the content of thought is the objectification process itself. It's
basically taking thoughts to be true.
Relationships are in relation to some thing, or someone "other."
Merely nuances of the dream.
It is nonsense to worry about anything, let alone the spiritual state
or 'salvation' of an perceived "other."
Silliness and nonsense relate to each other kind of like sugar and
sweet, stink and sh*t, and bs and AN.
Richard
On Dec 22, 3:57 pm, Ram <ram.samar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Find out what the 'person' is and be through with all of this
> silliness.
What is it that does the investigation? (This is not a rhetorical
question. I'd like answers.)
> I understand that you don't think it is silly, but it really is only a
> bunch of nonsense. No offense intended.
Whenever I see a "no offense intended" or a "with all due respect", a
red flag pops up.
> What is born? What dies?
Nothing really.
> Going ahead, leaving behind, superior, inferior, enlightened,
> unenlightened; all of these relate only to the concepts of "me" and
> "others."
Yes. These are all judgmental, mind-divisions of the whole. Conceptual
objectification of the absolute Subject.
Rodger
In short,you.
Another way to answer your question is with the question,'who is
asking?'
Another way is,that which is asking the question.
What is born? What dies?
Everything really.
DIK
godszen
Rodger
"Born' is born...and 'dies' dies.
What's the difference between 'arising' and 'being born'?
If thoughts 'come and go'...
Rodger
From where,or from what,or from who is the investigation born?
When the investigation ends...if the investigation ends...is it dead?
If it's dead,did it die...or just get reborn?
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Rodger
Thoughts are things and things are concrete expressions of thought.The
thought is the father to the act.The thought that no thing is born,no
thing dies,is the father to a belief born which is the expression of
limited consciousness born on the day you arose.
As an investigator of things you have no doubt noticed that
interpretations abound.Interpretations are,naturally,limitations born
of that which is itself limited...or,born.
Anywho...have a very Merry Christmas!
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DIK
Rodger
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DIK
protons which are made up of smaller, less substantial stuff. If the
nucleus of a hydrogen atom was the size of a basketball, the electron
would be the size of a grain of sand and would orbit it about 50 miles
away. Essentially all things are composed of a lot of nothing and
when we get into what little we think they are made of, that also
appears to be a lot of nothing and that nothing seems to wink in and
out of existence....now you see it...now you don't. When or where
does it begin or end...born or dies?
Rodger
When or where does what it begin or end?
DIK
Rodger
Has it ever struck you as...I don't know,funny or odd that people will
pay others to talk to them?
Mental constructs come with feelings.Sometimes strong ones.Said to me
once is,emotions are energy carrying a message.
About your belief.I don't delve into that shit much.Once did.The way I
figure is sometimes like the way Richard's wife figures it.Mostly I
figure it's all covered.Lot's of ways to figure shit.But,shit is shit
no matter it's figure.The more shit is figured the more it remains
shit.More or less.I say more or less because some shit does seem to
stink less than other shit,which only means some shit stinks more.I
understand diet has a lot to with it.Maybe that's what,'the mind grows
on what it feeds on'refers to.And,they say you are what you eat.I saw
a girl once wearing a t-shirt with this written on it...'if it's true
that you are what you eat,you could be me by morning'.Now,what kind of
shit is that?
About this getting left behind shit...left behind what?The eight ball?
Somebody is always getting left behind,according to those who think
they are getting ahead.Ahead of what? All movement is at it's own
pace,so how to get ahead or behind? But,I tell you what...that girl
with the t-shirt? Whether ahead of her or behind her,she was looking
pretty damn good just as she was!Someone you might not mind completing
a cycle with.Ya know?
I hope your wife likes the laptop.My wife likes it when I give her
one.Anyway,that's the shit she says to me.
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Rodger
What do you mean,no need to pick that statement to pieces?
What do you think AdvaitaNow is about,Bob? I mean,really now.
Fuck it then...I'm gonna go have a beer.
Man,you really know how to take the fun out.
Rat-a-tat-tat...different strokes for different folks.
On Dec 22, 12:20 pm, Bob1357 <bob135...@gmail.com> wrote:
DIK
shit. "Hey family! We eat tonight!" is all I ever heard them shout.
Perhaps like everything else...it is relative.
Rodger
Wouldn't know whether they consider shit to stink or not.
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