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AdSensePro Google employee  
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(2 users)  More options May 10 2007, 7:31 pm
From: AdSensePro
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:31:04 -0000
Local: Thurs, May 10 2007 7:31 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Our team realizes that last week's policy blog post raised a lot of
questions, so this week's post, entitled "A clarification on
accidental clicks" hopes to clear up some of the confusion.

Hope it helps,
-AdSensePro

PS: This week's post can be found at:
http://adsense.blogspot.com/2007/05/clarification-on-accidental-click...


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 More options May 10 2007, 7:41 pm
From: Senya.s
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:41:50 -0000
Local: Thurs, May 10 2007 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Thanks!

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From: Lolos
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 16:56:02 -0700
Local: Thurs, May 10 2007 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Thanks for the clarification I was very confused when I read the last
post about accidental clicks.  But now I think it's clear.

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 More options May 11 2007, 2:45 am
From: MartyB
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:45:45 -0700
Local: Fri, May 11 2007 2:45 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
I never thought about the potential for accidental clicks, but after
reading the post I understant a bit more about the potential.  I've
put more distance between my navigation and adsense code.  I thank you
for the clarification.
MartyB

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 More options May 11 2007, 7:23 am
From: "[email address]"
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 04:23:36 -0700
Local: Fri, May 11 2007 7:23 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Thank you very much for clearing this up!

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 More options May 11 2007, 6:39 pm
From: Ihatethis
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:39:38 -0700
Local: Fri, May 11 2007 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
I wonder why a site i reported that was able to change the font styles
of his adsense wasnt banned?  His looked like the first pics on the
left but mentioned nothing about ads and his fonts for the title were
bigger like it was another link on his site....Adsense just said that
it was confidential.....so I guess its ok for some and not others....
jason

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 More options May 13 2007, 7:39 pm
From: danrok
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:39:46 -0700
Local: Sun, May 13 2007 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Some bigger sites have ads which are customised by AdSense. If that is
the case, then the different font face would be vaild.

Dan.
www.tekreviews.com


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 More options May 14 2007, 2:26 am
From: ACS
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:26:53 -0700
Local: Mon, May 14 2007 2:26 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
I appreciate the updates.  I am concerned, however, about this policy
regarding drop-down navigation menus, used by many individuals.  The
fact is that the browser itself possesses drop-down navigation menus
that could easily be accidentally clicked on - there's no way around
it, even if you put your ads at the bottom of your site.  As you
scroll down, they will be at the top, and the browser's drop-down menu
will cover them up the same as the example you give.  I refer, of
course, to the File, Edit, View, Go, Bookmarks, Tools and Help menu at
the top of the Firefox browser, or the comparable arrangement on IE,
Netscape, etc.  If we are to avoid having drop-down navigation menus
competing with the ads, we simply cannot have the ads on ANY part of
the page, because the browser itself possesses such menus!

I hope Google will reconsider this policy, for the above reasons.

Thank you.

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(1 user)  More options May 14 2007, 5:06 am
From: "[email address]"
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 02:06:44 -0700
Local: Mon, May 14 2007 5:06 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
ACS, you've raised a good point but I think there's a world of
difference between browser menus and any menus that might appear on a
site.

Firstly, browser menus are initially called by clicking *outside* of
the active site window, a miss to the left or right will just open a
different menu (or do nothing).  Secondly, browser menus are
consistent in their operation and appearance in a way that matches all
other applications running on that platform.  There should be very
little 'unknown' about a browser menu and users are far less likely to
have difficulty picking the option they want since it's a commonly
encountered function and system menus of this type are quite 'user-
friendly' in their selection areas and styles.

Drop-downs within sites offer no such comfort of familiarity and start
from within the site itself so even the initial click can be mis-
directed.  They can be all manner of sizes, shapes and colours, may
have no consistent (or logical!) order or structure and could behave
in an overly sensitive manner.  My personal bug-bear is menus with fly-
outs that require nanometer precision to hold the sub-menu you need
and it is this inconsistency and flexibility that makes them (in my
opinion) an entirely different prospect to browser menus.

Jon
http://www.cobnut.net/

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 More options May 14 2007, 5:21 pm
From: AdSensePro
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 21:21:14 -0000
Local: Mon, May 14 2007 5:21 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Sorry for any confusion, ACS, and thank you very much for your
response, Jon.

What we're asking publishers to do is be aware of avoidable risks on
their own sites. Browser menus will always exist, but you can choose
not to place ads next to your site's navigation controls or other
interactive elements because you know that users frequently click on
those links and might click your ads by mistake in the process. An
implementation doesn't have to be deliberately deceitful to lead to
invalid clicks, so we're asking that everyone takes appropriate
precautions to protect the interests of our advertisers, users, and
their own accounts.

Hope that clarifies,
-AdSensePro


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 More options May 15 2007, 2:07 am
From: ACS
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 23:07:55 -0700
Local: Tues, May 15 2007 2:07 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
I appreciate the response very much.  It is great to know that there's
someone "live" out there.

As an erstwhile Adwords advertiser, I appreciate the concern for them
as well.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

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 More options May 15 2007, 9:18 am
From: "[email address]"
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 06:18:24 -0700
Local: Tues, May 15 2007 9:18 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"

I have read all the documentation surrounding "Accidental Clicks"

However, it seems to present a contradiction to its own Policy.

I'm quite puzzled.

In the true sense of "clicks" there's no such thing as  accidental.
They just don't happen, do they?

I do understand the "Policy" of what's being defined by Google as
accidental clicks.
And, I understand the diagram in the case of a pull-down menu not
behaving properly,
and causing an AdSense click when the reader meant to use the Pull-
down.
(Frequently happens because of poorly coded pull-downs)

However, I do not understand what criteria designates an "accidental
click"

How do you know they're "accidental" ???

There are thousands of pages where NOTHING exists on the page EXCEPT
Google AdSense ads.

According to Policy, those links should NEVER be clicked, because
clicking thus
would constitute an "accidental" click. So, why are there so many
pages like that?

If someone happens upon one of those pages (A quite frequent
occurrence)
and then does click, thinking it's leading to authentic content, how
does
Google know that it actually should be classified as  "accidental" ...
or does it?

(Millions of these pages have been identified as the preferred
technique
employed by Domain Kiters for generating revenue -- even though
they are in direct violation of Google's policy. )

There are dozens and dozens of "Directory" pages I personally have
encountered
that "look" like a directory page -- turn up in MOST Google searches
-- but the
listing consists of ALL AdSense links. I've reported a number of these
to
Google, but the sites stay around.  I think they're even automated.

Someone clicks one of those links thinking it's a real web site, they
have
in fact "accidentally" clicked -- because there are no other links to
click.

Then there are the pages that have multiple blocks of different kinds
of
Google AdSense link sets all clustered around the "TITLE" of the
content
piece so they occupy the ENTIRE arrival window... forcing the reader
to scroll down the page in search of the content they came for.
Clicking one of those links would not be what the reader wants to do,
however, those clicks would probably not register as "accidental"
... would they?

Then there are the pages where somehow they've programmed the page
to HIDE the "Ads by Google" marker -- and seem to "hijack" the search
phrase, replacing the TITLE of the Google Ad with the searched-for
phrase. So the reader thinks they've hit a gold mine of links to
their
search phrase -- when clicking any of them takes them to totally
different
web site content which is an AdSense link.

Those too should be considered "accidental" , right? Or, are they
somehow allowed?

Can you help me understand the Google process of separating
"accidental"
clicks from "real" clicks.

Got me puzzled.


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(1 user)  More options May 15 2007, 11:31 am
From: Mukesh
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 08:31:47 -0700
Local: Tues, May 15 2007 11:31 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Hello AdsensePro,

i am new to this group..i have read about accidental clicks and
invalid clicks....but this happend to me ...i can't belive this :(

i have join google adsense on 23th dec.2005 last 18 month i am very
carefull about my account also i have right to google about ads
tracking software that i have to use are not ...?....but google replay
me Not to use any click tracking software
as google said i am not using any software But last week on 6th may
2007 my account was disabled...:(

i ask one question if i want click on my ads why i have to wait for 18
months ?
i am not involved in  invalid click activity are any others activitys
also i have dout on some ips referrers by google.com the ip s are
59.93.117.185 and 59.93.77.227

if this one happend to any one that s not good. i mean if anybody
dislike You some one click s on your site and google will disabled
account for advertisers then what you have to do ....simple sit down
and relax and think about what u have done in 18 months just earn $62
work hard last 18 months and one day your account is disabled due to
some one dislike you...

in this matter google will never help any one i know...but google have
to think about this for those who are doing to make serious income
take care of all those thing s

sorry i think i have right more

thanking you

Mukesh


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 More options May 16 2007, 6:22 am
From: sishu
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 10:22:21 -0000
Local: Wed, May 16 2007 6:22 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"
Hello,

I am new at this group and I want to argue same thinks.

Ex.1. -- My computer is part of a network from 100 computers, and each
computer have the same IP. It can be at the office, at home, etc. But
work different people. It is big probability one of them to visit my
site, and to make clicks on my google ads. Not because it is my site,
and he want to help me to make money. In this case my account may be
disabled. But it is not correctly. I respect the rules and term and
conditions.

I propose: to create a rubric in each adsese accout and to put IP's
from where do not count clicks, if someone will make clicks from this
IP's. And the problems will be resolved.

What do you think?

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 More options May 16 2007, 9:25 am
From: mdshare
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 06:25:20 -0700
Local: Wed, May 16 2007 9:25 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "A clarification on accidental clicks"

Being able as publisher to blacklist IPs or a hostmask would be a nice
extra feature for adsense.

I'm not concerned about accidental clicks as it's common sense that
you keep a distance between ads/navigation, having ads in seperate
blocks etc... only those forcing adsense clicks should be concerned as
they develop their web layout purely for clicks.

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