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AdSensePro Google employee  
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(1 user)  More options Apr 26 2007, 1:32 pm
From: AdSensePro
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:32:31 -0000
Local: Thurs, Apr 26 2007 1:32 pm
Subject: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
This week's policy blog post is about encouraging clicks, including
explicitly inciting clicks, bringing undue attention to ads, labeling
ads, etc. Please feel free to post your questions and comments on this
thread.

I hope this helps clear up any questions you might have!
-AdSensePro


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From: alpa
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:05:48 -0700
Local: Thurs, Apr 26 2007 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
Also placing ads under buttons would lead accidentalclicks. They are
also against TOS.

http://getfreewebtraffictoyoursite.blogspot.com/


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From: olivecute
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 05:13:59 -0000
Local: Fri, Apr 27 2007 1:13 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
They said...regret always come late..
That's true... when 1st time i join adsense, i didn't read its
policy..
I always like to read & click some adv when i'm surfing the internet.
Cos usually adv by google always related with the topics.
I also do this click to my own web...and due to i want to know how
effective this click adv ...i do self test click.
Few days ago, I realized that self click is prohibated...and today
adsense disabled my account....
I;m so sad...i didn't post anything in my blog since the day i found
out its prohibited to do self click.
I don't know whether in future ad sense can re-active my account
again...

Don't do like I do...self click. U'll regret it for sure!!!

Sadly :'( // Olive

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(2 users)  More options Apr 27 2007, 10:17 am
From: "[email address]"
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:17:04 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 27 2007 10:17 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
While I welcome the opportunity to encourage clicks on referrals, I do
think it's something that runs the risk of confusing Adsense
publishers.

It's very easy to say 'you can't click on anything, nothing, never'
but as soon as you start saying 'except this, and except that' those
policies become harder to understand.  This situation is hardly helped
when the Adsense Terms still state:

"You shall not promote or facilitate a Referral Event by any means
other than displaying a Referral Button on the Site, unless expressly
authorized in writing by Google (including by electronic mail)."

Unless these forum posts are considered to be 'authorization'?

The Program Policies still state "Please note that clicking on your
own ads for any reason is prohibited. Failure to comply with this
policy may lead to your account being disabled." yet we know that both
referrals and link units can be clicked so this too is misleading.
Yes, the Terms have been amended so that 'ads' now means just ads but
that distinction is not clearly made within the Program Policy
document and has led to other misleading entires.  The Policies state
that:

"A site or third party cannot display our ads, search box, search
results or referral buttons as a result of the actions of any software
application such as a toolbar."

Does this mean we CAN put LINK UNITS in a software application since
they're no longer specifically covered by 'ads'?

This board is packed with people asking questions about the policies
and often following suspension or a ban and while I'm usually a
staunch defender of Google I do feel that the Program Policies and
Terms need careful revision to ensure that they don't present rules
that openly conflict with instructions and guidance offered elsewhere
by Google.

Jon
http://www.cobnut.net/

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From: lolo
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:26:05 -0000
Local: Fri, Apr 27 2007 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
http://enggrewords.indiah.org

 is this break any rule????

the placement od ads???????????


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From: usercom
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:18:22 -0700
Local: Fri, Apr 27 2007 2:18 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
AdSensePro will you answer our questions ? or you just want us to
answer each other that will mean no answer is 100% correct and people
can get banned for following another user answer............

Can i make a website and explain to visitors about adsense sistem and
put there ONLY the referal button for adsense sign up ? can i tell
then to click on that button and join adsense ?

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(2 users)  More options Apr 29 2007, 12:38 pm
From: Guser
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:38:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
I have been running AdSense ads on my websites since Sep. of last
year. I did ponder that issue quite a bit. I think that the policy
proves to be valid. If someone comes to my website and sees an ad that
he or she likes without me saying a word of encouragement, there's a
chance that they will end up being interested in the products or
services in a long run. It's just common sense. Well, it is beneficial
for the advertisers but at the same time I will not make as much as an
affiliate. But that's ok.

I have also noticed that most "big dogs" who are using AdSense never
say more than a simple: "Sponsored links" (although they could have
used the policy more loosely). I wonder if they know something that
others sitll don't? I wonder if the integrity actually pays off at the
end. I am sure it does.

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From: Enviroman
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:41:21 -0000
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2007 12:41 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
On Apr 28, 2:18 am, usercom wrote:

> AdSensePro will you answer our questions ? or you just want us to
> answer each other that will mean no answer is 100% correct and people
> can get banned for following another user answer............

> Can i make a website and explain to visitors about adsense sistem and
> put there ONLY the referal button for adsense sign up ? can i tell
> then to click on that button and join adsense ?

> On Apr 26, 8:32 pm, AdSensePro wrote:

I have written a post about referring visitors to referral buttons/
links, including a link to AdSense site that says we are allowed to do
it plus a screenshot of that site as a permanent record your or I can
refer to if ever needed. See post
http://generating-revenue-from-your-site.blogspot.com/2007/03/now-you...

Peter
http://generating-revenue-from-your-site.blogspot.com/
http://adsense-alert.blogspot.com
http://firefox-alert.blogspot.com


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(1 user)  More options Apr 30 2007, 5:01 am
From: Chris Hunt
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:01:51 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2007 5:01 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
Hmmm....

So with regard to referral buttons I'm allowed to say this:

"Click this button, it's a really cool product"

and I'm not allowed to say this:

"Click this button, I get $2 if you do so"

But what if I want to recommend the product, but feel it's unethical
to do so without telling my readers that I'm getting paid for it:

"Click this button, it's a really cool product (full disclosure: I
receive a commission of $2 if you follow this link)"


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(1 user)  More options Apr 30 2007, 7:43 am
From: "[email address]"
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:43:55 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2007 7:43 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
I would suggest that if you reveal that you get paid for the click
then you're leaving yourself open to either people clicking it to
'help' you or not clicking it because they don't want you to be paid
(or because they worry they'll be charged somehow).  Bear in mind that
referrals are doubly complex in that the 'conversion' point may differ
from product to product so it's not actually true to simply say 'I
receive $2 if you follow this link'.  It may be that the product must
be installed, that it must be the *first* install or that it must be
installed and 'run' or any other conversion target.

I'm not sure ethics need raise their head - you're not taking money
from the readers and the producers of the referral product have made
their own decisions about how much each install is worth so they know
the costs involved.  No one is being 'duped' here.

I think this is why Adsense stress so heavily that you should
encourage clicks on products that you personally (or corporately)
endorse.  If you believe it's a good product then your endorsement has
a value and that value is the referral fee.  To my mind there's no
ethical issue.

Jon
http://www.cobnut.net/

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 More options Apr 30 2007, 10:15 am
From: Chris Hunt
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:15:39 -0700
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2007 10:15 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"

> I'm not sure ethics need raise their head

It very definitely is an ethical issue. If I endorse a product, give
it a favourable review and otherwise plug it to my readership they
have a right to know that I'm making a personal profit from the deal.
Admittedly, it only gets really unethical if you think the product
sucks but plug it anyway.

I should point out, btw, that I'm talking hypothetically here - I
don't think anybody out there would care what I think about referral
products, and I don't have any referral links on my site anyway - but
I think it's an area that's worth exploring.


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From: 1pennyStock_dot_com
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:44:28 -0000
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2007 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
Here's the prove:

GOogle has terminated my friend's account because he did encourage
others people to click on their pages. SO they are very serious about
this problem.

The best thing to do is not to encourage others to click on the GOogle
ads in any way

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From: "[email address]"
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 02:41:50 -0000
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2007 10:41 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
My case is that i was banned and actually donbt know why, the google
team said that i have invalid click...
I guess that it could be my section "encuentros" quere you can rate
pix from many people, its scrip embebed in html. and every time u vote
a new window is randomly selected with other picture, i guess that u
can see many click from a same ip, because generaly one guess vote
many pix. I´m asking google team to reviw my situation and unbann my
account, i will make any arragement they suggest but is unfair to ban
me. At least thats waht i thing, so please try to make me undertand
waht was my fault and how to make it right but dont leave out of
adsense!

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(1 user)  More options May 1 2007, 11:01 am
From: chumma
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 08:01:31 -0700
Local: Tues, May 1 2007 11:01 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
I have only one advice:

When in doubt, DON'T DO IT.

The google ad service is built on a fragile system of "content based
delivery" where people who are looking for a specific topic get
interested on an ad and visit its sponsor. This fragile system would
break down if everyone starts looking for loopholes and variations to
justify clicks that is not entirely intended by the visitor. Embedding
codes, enticing clicks by proximity to other hyperlinks, requesting
for support through ad clicking (directly or indirectly) etc damage
the system.

Forget about "making money through adsense", think about "earning
money through adsense". Earn your well deserved pay by tightening the
screws, getting good content, targeting a specific demography or
service sector, bringing legit traffic. There are thousands of
webmasters who have done well with this approach and there is enough
room for a whole lot more of them.

Thank you for letting me interject. Have a nice day.


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(1 user)  More options May 1 2007, 12:37 pm
From: zFacts
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 16:37:24 -0000
Local: Tues, May 1 2007 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
I understand that an image to encourage a click is wrong. But how
about an image just to catch the eye so people see the ad? Can I put a
very small picture of my cat, with a caption: "ours" under it, near my
two ads, just so people take a look?  (There will be no cat ads on my
site.)

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From: "[email address]"
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 03:58:31 -0700
Local: Wed, May 2 2007 6:58 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
Its good policy and we must also follow BUT , if any other person who
is rival or don't want  me to run adsense , can click on ad and create
invalid click. How that situation googlee is maintaining? since the
main objective is to protect advertiser from invalid click then google
may deduct that amount for invalid click instead of disabling the
account. If account being disabled then publisher will be suffering.
One of my friend's adsense accounts being disabled , as per his say
that he never click on any of his ad or never tried for invalid click
but one day he found the surge of 30 doller income in a day and after
that day he received a mail saying that account being disabled. was
having about 50 doller in his account, after disabled he will not
being paid. Now question is that , who is receiving 50 dollar, that
was genuine income. I beliove that thos 50 dollar was not return to
advertiser. He was having very bad impression on google for it.
Is it not possible to deduct invalid click instead of disabling the
account , so publishers will also be in safe mind.

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From: silvio www.holidayorganiser.com
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 10:49:59 -0700
Local: Wed, May 2 2007 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
This policy is not very fair. I'm in the very same situation as your
friend..... I have been working hard on my website for the last two
months, and I have earned 54 dollars. Because last week some made
'invalid clicks' on my site, google adsense disabled my account. I
have also got an adwords account and I have paid to date over 70
dollars for clicks to my website. If I earned 50 dollars and now they
decide to close the account. Why don't they give me back the 70
dollars they charged me. Probably somebody click 50 times in my logo
of some other website.i will like to know if somebody have a addres or
phone nomber from google adsense to  contact them  to know if they
will open my account again.if somebody can help me , please write me
at [email address]
thank you!

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From: fcsuper
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 17:30:44 -0700
Local: Wed, May 2 2007 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
Last I checked, your money is not forfeit if they close your account.
You are allowed to request payment if the account is closed, as long
as the amount is over $10.  Anyone know if this is still truth or if
this applies to disabled accounts?

Matt

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From: gaurav
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 03:20:41 -0700
Local: Thurs, May 3 2007 6:20 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"

> Can i make a website and explain to visitors about adsense sistem and
> put there ONLY the referal button for adsense sign up ? can i tell
> then to click on that button and join adsense ?

don't use the "click this" etc languages!
you can actively promote the referral products, use this type of text,
"i monitorise my site with adsense and it pays me a lot, and i
recomend adsense to others"

or something like, mozila is the best browers for internet, and it has
tabbed browsing. it is better than internet explorer, and i recomend
it"

don't say click here, mozila is good, this is not really accepted. if
you visitor things that mozila is really good, or the other referal
products are good, they will use those themselves!!

regards,
http://sitefunda.com


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 More options May 3 2007, 9:57 am
From: Eric Giguere
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 06:57:35 -0700
Local: Thurs, May 3 2007 9:57 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"

AdSensePro wrote:
> This week's policy blog post is about encouraging clicks, including
> explicitly inciting clicks, bringing undue attention to ads, labeling
> ads, etc. Please feel free to post your questions and comments on this
> thread.

Actually, that posting on Inside AdSense is misleading because it
doesn't reflect the updated policy on ad labeling. It USED to be that
you couldn't label the ads with anything other than "Advertisements"
or "Sponsored Links", but that language has been removed from the
official policies. See my post here for the details:

http://www.memwg.com/blog/adsense/AdSense-Ad-Labeling-Policy-More-Fle...

Yes, you can't encourage clicks, but there's more flexibility than
what the blog post described.

Eric Giguere
http://www.uncommonadsense.com


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 More options May 3 2007, 11:52 am
From: logixca
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 08:52:59 -0700
Local: Thurs, May 3 2007 11:52 am
Subject: Re: Discuss "Encouraging clicks"
>From my experience, common sense covers a lot of ground about how to

display Google's AdSense zones.

The ads (as they currently stand) are obvious enough, especially since
the publisher can choose the colors and size, that (in my opinion)
they don't need more "hints" to explain the "intended use". People
click links, pay-per-click or otherwise. It's that simple!

Publishers should focus on creating uniquely appealing web
destinations instead of trying to broadly (or specifically) convince
people to click PPC ads, not just to respect the TOS (which is
obviously the primary directive, anyway) but also to give a reason to
their visitors to come back again.

If you work hard and create value (within the TOS guidelines), you're
bound to enjoy a long, happy "publisher" relationship with Google
AdSense. Do no evil. Work hard. Create value. It works!

I hope this helps ; )

Claude

http://beep.name/2006/10/11/keyword-elite-helps-master-the-ppc-art/
http://beep.name/2006/10/11/clickbank-gets-a-makeover/

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