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AdSensePro Google employee  
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From: AdSensePro
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:56:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 22 2007 6:56 pm
Subject: New rules on fighting in this group
Hi everyone,

There has been far too much unnecessary fighting and name-calling in
this group in the last several months. Such posts are frustrating for
users trying to get real help, and removing them is time-consuming for
the moderators. When we can't catch them quickly enough, they tend to
spark additional arguments and insults, leading to ongoing negativity
and distraction from the actual purpose of the group.

From the charter:
-----------------------
We hope this forum will become an important part of the AdSense
community, and provide another outlet for you to search for answers,
ask questions about AdSense, find tips to optimize your account, and
make good use of your own AdSense expertise to assist others.
-----------------------

Unfortunately, many of your real questions and valuable insights and
answers have been lost among spam and insults lately, and it's become
clear that we need to do something to fix this problem.

***From now on, any user who repeatedly insults or fights with other
users will be removed from the group. It doesn't matter who started
the argument or what it's about. This is not the place for
fighting.***

If someone insults you, I strongly encourage you to not respond. If
your membership is revoked and you believe the decision was unfair,
you can contact the group owner through the link on the 'About this
group' page and you may be reinstated after a suspension period of at
least one week.

If you believe this policy is unfair, let me know.

-AdSensePro


 
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 More options Dec 22 2007, 7:57 pm
From: Canadian
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:57:05 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 22 2007 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
Awesome Idea! I am very happy to see ADSense Pros are finally taking
action in this forum. I %100.00 support this decision & I am certain
that the attitude of some contributors in this Forum will radically
change soon.

All the best and Happy Holidays to all!

Jess

http://www.canadianimmigrants.blogspot.com/

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 More options Dec 22 2007, 10:02 pm
From: Dolin
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:02:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 22 2007 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
Yeah this is not the place to make enemies. If you don't like somebody
just don't respond to it.

Dolin,
www.young.3host.biz/adsenseindonesia

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 More options Dec 23 2007, 1:55 am
From: Data
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 22:55:36 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 1:55 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
If that 'really' is the case ASP, then I will gladly pop back in here
from time to time to help as I can. In the past I have felt insulted
when trying to get serious help from from GoogleAdsense over a
particular problem, to then be referred to this group which - as you
rightly say - has become a cesspit for spammers and those little nerds
wanting to 'lure' novices on to their blogs and sites etc. (Trouble
is, there are too many self-proclaimed experts out there with ulterior
motives - so those need to be sorted as well!!)
I am so glad that, Google has seen sense and allocated some resources
here. I am sure that it will pay off, and I for one will pop back and
do what little I can (time-permitting). There are still some of us who
try to help with genuine cases, and this action will encourage a
wealth of experience back into this forum - even if wanting to do it
for self preservation. For if Google continues to allow the crass
sites to flourish (often encouraged in here) then the future is going
to be bleak, and as I now more or less make my living from Adsense, I
would like to see some more professionalism right from the bottom up.
This forum is every much a part of Google as are the the 'lifers', and
the actions suggested, and your 'control' over this group, has been a
long time coming.
Best wishes for Christmas - whatever you faith or creed - and a
prosperous 2008 - when Google finally GotSense with Adsense.
(I thought the Christmas card from your masters was a lovely little
touch - even if it was probably sent to another 50,000,000
Adsensers. :-)
Regards
to all
Data

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 More options Dec 23 2007, 2:33 am
From: tipsneeded
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:33:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 2:33 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
A timely decision. Too many personal attacks
were thrown in recent days rather than helping others.

Thanks
 http://onlinemoneyforall.blogspot.com/

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From: shailendra pundir
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:58:22 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 2:58 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
i am not getting income from ads despite taking the help of  referral
links,search links etc. in nov i earned $0.72 but this month i coull
not earn a single penny. my url- http://ideasmine.googlepages.com.
moreover on writing my page url to the brouser an statement"the page
you want to view can not be viewed(404)" is seen. i think this is the
reason that i am not getting any income.
                                   [email address]

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 More options Dec 23 2007, 3:46 am
From: AdSensePro Ashley
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:46:38 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 3:46 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
Hi all,

Thanks for your valuable feedback on this new policy. We're happy to
hear that you welcome it.

shailendra pundir, please keep this thread on topic. You can post your
question in a new thread. Thanks.

Happy holidays to all,
Ashley

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 More options Dec 23 2007, 7:04 am
From: Vision i.T Services
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:04:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 7:04 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
This is great news!

Merry Christmas,

Paul.


 
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 More options Dec 23 2007, 9:04 am
From: Dan B.
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:04:34 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 9:04 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
very cool if it is ever actually enforced.

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 More options Dec 23 2007, 10:50 am
From: JDSense
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:50:09 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 10:50 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
On Dec 22, 6:56 pm, AdSensePro wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> There has been far too much unnecessary fighting and name-calling in
> this group in the last several months. Such posts are frustrating for
> users trying to get real help, and removing them is time-consuming for
> the moderators. When we can't catch them quickly enough, they tend to
> spark additional arguments and insults, leading to ongoing negativity
> and distraction from the actual purpose of the group.

I believe that if folks come here to extend an helping hand, instead
of coming here for argument and harassing new forum members, the forum
will be a better place.

Jenny


 
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 More options Dec 23 2007, 11:46 am
From: Vision i.T Services
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:46:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 23 2007 11:46 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
Any chance of dropping these revenge ratings too?

There's no point in having them as they're clearly not being used
properly.  Nearly every post has been marked 1 star just recently, and
other members have the same problem (see my previous post, and Dan B's)


 
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 More options Dec 24 2007, 8:59 am
From: yuyutsu
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:59:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 8:59 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
New rules on fighting? Dan B is a martial arts expert so no one will
pick on him anyway.

What is a revenge rating Vision? Very curious comment.

This new ruling can only improve this group..... nice one.

Happy Christmas everyone!

Long Live Google Adsense.

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 More options Dec 24 2007, 9:41 am
From: Vision i.T Services
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:41:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 9:41 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group

> What is a revenge rating Vision? Very curious comment.

When your posts are all marked 1 star for absolutely no apparent
reason.

 
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 More options Dec 24 2007, 10:49 am
From: Dan B.
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:49:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 10:49 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
"Dan B is a martial arts expert so no one will pick on him anyway."

hahaha, ya, it's funny when fights start online, I often wonder what
people would act like face to face...I always speak my mind, face to
face or not...I try not to be mean, but always honest, some of these
keyboard-based toughguys (and girls) make me wonder...

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 More options Dec 24 2007, 12:08 pm
From: yuyutsu
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:08:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group

> What is a revenge rating Vision? Very curious comment.

When your posts are all marked 1 star for absolutely no apparent
reason.

Is everybody rating your post one star then.
Are they ALL out to get you?
I would suggest that we all ignore the star rating and try and help
each other.
Make it a New Years resolution everybody... myself included.

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From: Dan B.
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:15:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
I've been ignoring those stupid things for ages.

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Vision i.T Services  
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 More options Dec 24 2007, 12:18 pm
From: Vision i.T Services
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:18:10 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group

> Is everybody rating your post one star then.
> Are they ALL out to get you?

No, it's not just me.

I suspect the admins know who it is (as do we) but they're (quite
rightly) not telling anyone because it would spark more arguments.


 
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 More options Dec 24 2007, 3:31 pm
From: JDSense
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:31:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
On Dec 22, 6:56 pm, AdSensePro wrote:

> Unfortunately, many of your real questions and valuable insights and
> answers have been lost among spam and insults lately, and it's become
> clear that we need to do something to fix this problem.

I don't believe answers have been lost due to anything. But, I agree
that there should be a better way to remove the spam messages
automatically. :-)

As for insults, its easy to ignore and just move on.

Merry Christmas.

Jenny


 
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 More options Dec 24 2007, 6:48 pm
From: AdSensePro Jordan
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:48:46 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 24 2007 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
Regarding the "revenge ratings" - back when this started to become a
problem, we asked the Groups engineers whether the feature could be
turned off for this group, but unfortunately it's not possible. As
yuyutsu suggested, I hope everyone can just ignore these irrelevant
ratings and continue helping each other as you have been.

I'm looking forward to 2008: The Year of the Friendlier AdSense Help
Forum :)

Happy holidays everyone!
-Jordan


 
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 More options Dec 26 2007, 5:29 pm
From: stonehead
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:29:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 26 2007 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
I'd like to toss in 2 cents:

REPORT USELESS SPAMS

By using the "report" Link

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From: sleepsupply.net
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:04:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 27 2007 11:04 am
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
I think alot of the frustration comes from people not being able to
use your product..I can't seem to get it to work and can't get any
"real help"..its very frustrating.
Can you imagine how much more $$ you could make from your advertisers
if there was easier help and instruction?
And yes, I've gone through all the FAQ, watched the tutorial,
etc...still can't get the code to save in my source..

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 More options Dec 27 2007, 12:13 pm
From: Vision i.T Services
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:13:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group

> I think alot of the frustration comes from people not being able to
> use your product..I can't seem to get it to work and can't get any
> "real help"..its very frustrating.
> Can you imagine how much more $$ you could make from your advertisers
> if there was easier help and instruction?
> And yes, I've gone through all the FAQ, watched the tutorial,
> etc...still can't get the code to save in my source..

I think they assume (rightly or wrongly) you're savvy enough to add
the code because you already have a web site.

I'll reply properly in your other thread.


 
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From: Uttoransen
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:10:55 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 28 2007 12:10 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
merry Christmas and a happy new year 2008,

good to see this group moving foreword, but remember the users of this
group are mostly starters, so don't take too fast action in baning
someone, but then repeated mis-behaves are un-tolerable everywhere.
regards,
Uttoransen,


 
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From: dcg123
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:31:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
I'm new to the community.  I'm excited about the opportunity to learn
from some of the adsense pro's.  Happy and Properous 2008!

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From: Sport Hound
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:43:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 1 2008 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: New rules on fighting in this group
ok, are we allowed to ask proper questions in this group, or are we
just talking about insulting people?
sorry if that sounded like an insult
cause i have a question and id like to ask it

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