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Photoshop in Danger?!!!!

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Mohamed_A...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 10:40:5424.02.04
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Hi All!

I always think of Adobe Photoshop being a great building that accommodated most of the knowledge of modern image processing concepts. This is the bright side of the notion. What if we looked at the murky side of the Photoshop's evolving process? What if Photoshop core was built without taking into consideration the vast phenomenal resources growth? I mean what if early Photoshop authors couldn't imagine in 80's what the computer resources will be in the years to come? I think that the old style of programming should have some remains here and there despite the fact that Photoshop should have been re-written! Now, with all ideas added by Photoshop to the world of image processing, and all new computer resources, and the large number of qualified programmers around the world, the way is paved for new image-processing software to emerge and beat Photoshop. I wonder if friends here accept to convert to new software given that it is more powerful than Photoshop? Are we really prepared to change image processing Photoshop-oriented culture and accept to work in some competitive software other than Photoshop? Did the Adobe folks succeed in creating the Photoshop Inevitability Concept in designer's minds? Is it really possible to create software that is more powerful than Photoshop? Is it true that accumulative experience of writing Photoshop is inevitable to write competitive software? Is it possible for Photoshop to become the only revenues generating software for a single company? In other words, would it be possible for Adobe to live only on Photoshop? Alternatively, would Photoshop continue without other Adobe's products that support it?

Mohamed Al-Dabbagh
Senior Graphic Designer

Phos...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 11:32:3324.02.04
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Have fun with that switch, Allen, because it'll be a lot more problematic than you might suspect.

It's not just a matter of how you'll use it in-house. It's a matter of interfacing smoothly with everyone else that gives you non-Corel files to work with, and with everyone you pass your files to.

Allen_...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 11:15:4724.02.04
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Photoshop is too stubborn and to narrow minded to survive at this pace. Not providing the little things people request is driving us
from them. If I can get approval we are switching company wide to Corel. A lot more user friendly!

Thee_Dar...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 11:09:5224.02.04
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a lot of questions, but I dont see what your point is?

Can you tell me one peice of software that is better than Photoshop across the board. I dont think so. IF you could, i wouldnt be in this forum replying to you.

You are the designer, you use what tools work for you.

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 14:27:5424.02.04
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Photoshop in Danger?!!!! <http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?13@@.2cd03d26/0> [Photoshop Macintosh Forum]

I guess whatever this is must be important.

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 14:29:3624.02.04
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whenever I order a ham on rye the bread is slightly stale?


That's wry.

You need to go there in the middle of the lunch rush, not the middle of the night.

dave_...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 14:26:4424.02.04
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since we're asking inane questions here, can anyone tell me that whenever I order a ham on rye the bread is slightly stale?

Robert...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 14:47:3124.02.04
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A bit harsh, Jason. Tools are tools. There some very talented people
using Corel products.

Bob

graffiti

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24.02.2004, 14:37:5924.02.04
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The deli preferences are corrupt. Reset them.

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 14:51:2124.02.04
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An occasional Corel Draw upgrade is worth it, even if just for the fonts and trace program. It also does efficient multiple-page PDFs with links.

Jason_J...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 14:39:4624.02.04
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Photoshop, in danger? No, not to the "Real" graphic artist.

The problem with Corel Users, as well as many other 'Photoshop' rip-offs, if they have no talent. They are not the real 'graphic artists'.

Have some class. Corel is for the 'automated'... like everything else these days. It's like using a "1 Time Camera" in relation a Digital Canon Rebel - C'Mon!. (Photographic Analogy)

Besides the program has always done extremely well to adapt to new ideas. Where has Corel been in the past???

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 14:42:4124.02.04
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Where has Corel been in the past???


The same place they've always been: adding tomorrow's features, while ignoring yesterday's bugs.

Phos...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:29:4124.02.04
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I have no telnet.

Does Corel offer a solution for that?

Thee_Dar...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:33:2424.02.04
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OK where do you want to take it? ;-)

viol...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:28:0224.02.04
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> What because i use Corel software I have no talnet?

No, that is not the reason that you have no talent!

Thee_Dar...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:26:5924.02.04
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The problem with Corel Users, as well as many other 'Photoshop' rip-offs,
if they have no talent. They are not the real 'graphic artists'.

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:31:0724.02.04
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Does Corel offer a solution for that?


Probably. Doesn't it ship with about eighty-five utilities, on about a dozen discs now?

viol...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:33:2224.02.04
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> I have no telnet.


Use your Command Line, or whatever Mac calls it...

Thee_Dar...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:30:1524.02.04
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Vio im going to put you over my knee, and slap your bum.

viol...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:31:3724.02.04
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> Vio im going to put you over my knee, and slap your bum.

Um, I think we are in the wrong forum for the kinky stuff.

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 15:42:4524.02.04
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Please don't take to the lounge! I'm begging you... please!

Robert...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 16:19:2024.02.04
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If you guys don't cool it, that's exactly where it's going. <g>

Bob

Nick_...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 16:27:0624.02.04
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Actually, I didn't get the impression that the original poster was referring to Corel at all. He seemed to me to be asking "what if somebody comes along and develops a better program than Photoshop." That's certainly not impossible. But, IMO, that somebody would have a hard time switching the graphics world over to it, in much the same way that Adobe is having trouble getting graphics people (especially service bureaus and printers) to switch from Quark to InDesign.

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 19:09:1124.02.04
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He seemed to me to be asking "what if somebody comes along and develops
a better program than Photoshop."


Maybe he thought that if he directly said The Gimp <http://www.gimp.org/>, it would be like mentioning a competitor's product. With 2.0, it's getting a user interface that makes sense, CMYK, and I hope better performance with big files. So far, 2.0 is only available for Linux (alas).

So close... yet so far away.

Alpha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 20:25:0724.02.04
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Look a television station over here had the sole rights to the football. It then became slack and failed to renegotiate its claim letting two rival television stations take over. One station bought the rights to the regular season and the second, with a lesser share, bought the rights to the finals. When the first station chief found out that no finals would be shown on his network, the proverbial hit the fan. That's why multi-grain will always be better than Rye.

Adam.

dave_...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 22:30:2124.02.04
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football == soccer?

Alpha...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 22:33:4224.02.04
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Heathen!

Football = Australian Rules :-)

dave_...@adobeforums.com

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24.02.2004, 22:57:4624.02.04
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Ok then. I agree. :)

r_ha...@adobeforums.com

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25.02.2004, 16:49:2125.02.04
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