Really big stupid bug in CS4!

[Joakim_M...@adobeforums.com]

Try this:

1. Open a image with one and only background layer.
2. Duplicate this layer.
3. Go to the duplicated layer.
4. Hold down SHIFT and doubleclick on the image with the cursor tool.

This will crash photoshop CS4 with latest update. I think CS4 is released to early.

[PSh...@adobeforums.com]

What in the heck is the "cursor tool"? (text tool?)

What's the purpose of double-clicking on the image with any tool, let alone the invoking the shift key? Is this a KB shortcut of some kind?

Regardless, following your instructions using various tools result in no crash for me.

-phil

[Joakim_M...@adobeforums.com]

Cursor Tool is the Move Tool! Try it PShock.

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

Joakim,

Something is wrong with your setup.

I cannot replicate the issue. All that happens is that the Layer Style dialog box comes up, nice and smoothly. :D

What kind of routine maintenance do you perform on your machine?

What specific troubleshooting steps have you taken so far? Have you Repaired Permissions with Apple's Disk Utility? Trashed preferences? Have you run Disk Warrior?

How much total installed RAM? What % of available memory is Photoshop allowed to use (in Preferences)? How much total available hard disk do you have left, both in absolute terms and as a % of the size of the hard drive?

Is your machine on 24/7 (and not sleeping during the night) so that the Cron Scripts can run in the wee hours as intended by Apple? If not, do you run said Cron Scripts manually?

A lot more details are needed before we can help.

Buko, "Basic OSX maintenance" #, 16 Aug 2005 6:19 am </webx?50@@.3bbbf896>">CLICK HERE for an explanation of Repairing Permissions and basic routine maintenance.

Repairing Permissions after the fact (i. e. not immediately before and after an install) may NOT help.

[Joakim_M...@adobeforums.com]

I dont think so. Here is the report:

Date/Time: 2009-02-25 16:01:44.592 +0100
OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
Report Version: 4

Command: Adobe Photoshop CS4
Path: /Applications/Adobe Photoshop CS4/Adobe Photoshop CS4.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Photoshop CS4
Parent: WindowServer [109]

Version: 11.0.1 (11.0.1x20090216 [20090216.r.522 2009/02/16:17:00:00 cutoff; r branch]) (11.0.1)

PID: 947
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x73c00000

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 <<00000000>> 0x73c00000 0 + 1941962752
1 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00315264 0x1000 + 3228260
2 SH2Selective.8li 0x12782074 Filter__14cPSEventFilterFUlP5_ADsclPv + 676
3 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x002d7c78 0x1000 + 2976888
4 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0008ed0c 0x1000 + 580876
5 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0008b998 0x1000 + 567704
6 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0007fab4 0x1000 + 518836
7 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000828d4 0x1000 + 530644
8 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00082b58 0x1000 + 531288
9 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00845010 0x1000 + 8667152
10 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x0007fe5c 0x1000 + 519772
11 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x002c26d8 0x1000 + 2889432
12 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x002c2b10 0x1000 + 2890512
13 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00003d7c 0x1000 + 11644
14 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00003a80 0x1000 + 10880

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9003248c wait4 + 12
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x92be378c _waitForTermination + 40
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b908 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bfc8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90030aac pthread_cond_wait + 480
2 com.adobe.amt.services 0x0991ef58 AMTConditionLock::LockWhenCondition(int) + 56
3 com.adobe.amt.services 0x09919b70 AMTThreadedPCDService::PCDThreadWorker(_AMTThreadedPCDService*) + 104
4 com.adobe.amt.services 0x0991effc AMTThread::Worker(void*) + 48
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b908 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000af48 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ae9c mach_msg + 60
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90baaa48 TS_exception_listener_thread + 112
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b908 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bfc8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90030aac pthread_cond_wait + 480
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90c04484 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 184
3 MultiProcessor Support 0x0c967a8c dyld_stub_strcmp + 210933580
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bc6734 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b908 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 5:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002bfc8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90030aac pthread_cond_wait + 480
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bc6924 MPWaitOnQueue + 224
3 AdobeACE 0x02632a8c dyld_stub_sqrtf + 39235724
4 AdobeACE 0x02632410 dyld_stub_sqrtf + 39234064
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90bc6734 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b908 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90040df8 mach_wait_until + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90040bc4 nanosleep + 388
2 com.adobe.PSAutomate 0x1db6312c ScObjects::Thread::sleep(unsigned) + 144
3 com.adobe.PSAutomate 0x1db63234 ScObjects::Thread::wait(unsigned) + 56
4 com.adobe.PSAutomate 0x1db51818 ScObjects::BridgeTalkThread::run() + 436
5 com.adobe.PSAutomate 0x1db635d4 ScObjects::Thread::go(void*) + 316
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b908 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x0000000073c00000 srr1: 0x100000000000d030 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x44004204 xer: 0x0000000000000000 lr: 0x00000000002e381c ctr: 0x0000000073c00002
r0: 0x00000000002e380c r1: 0x00000000bffff210 r2: 0x0000000000182f9c r3: 0x0000000000750072
r4: 0x000000001ef683a0 r5: 0x0000000000000000 r6: 0x0000000000000000 r7: 0x0000000000000000
r8: 0x000000001efcd6b0 r9: 0x0000000000000500 r10: 0x0000000090bb0584 r11: 0x00000000bffff1e0
r12: 0x0000000073c00002 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x0000000000000000 r15: 0x0000000000000000
r16: 0x0000000000000000 r17: 0x0000000000000000 r18: 0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x0000000000000000
r20: 0x00000000bffff63c r21: 0x0000000005672980 r22: 0x0000000094cbdedc r23: 0x0000000000000001
r24: 0x00000000bffff650 r25: 0x000000000d1ddf18 r26: 0x00000000736c6374 r27: 0x0000000000000ee0
r28: 0x000000000d1dded8 r29: 0x000000000d1dde70 r30: 0x00000000bffff2fc r31: 0x0000000000000500

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[D...@adobeforums.com]

No problem here. Just a dialog box that says "Could not use the move tool because no layers are selected".

[v6v...@adobeforums.com]

Hey Joakim, I'm not able to replicate this at all, either. As PShock initially asked, would you explain purpose of this keyboard/mouse combination? If it's something that's frequently used, it might warrant the "Really big stupid bug in CS4!" designation.

Ramon and DYP, how is it that you guys ended up with different behaviors? My test didn't activate any menu or dialog boxes.

All that happens is that the Layer Style dialog box comes up, nice and
smoothly.

Just a dialog box that says "Could not use the move tool because no layers
are selected".

[Buko]

The Bug exists in your computer and nowhere else

[Chri...@adobeforums.com]

You have a plugin: SH2Selective.8li
That plugin is interfering with event processing and causing the crash.

Remove or disable that plugin, and contact the maker of that plugin so they can fix the bug.

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

Once again, the more strident the rant, the greater the probability of PEBKAC.

Let's hope Joakim things twice before using stupid and bug next time.

[Neil_...@adobeforums.com]

Joakim,

Always verify compatibility of third-party plug-ins when upgrading (sometimes even just updating) the app, the computer, or the OS.

Neil

[Wade_Zi...@adobeforums.com]

Yep no problem here and you should always disable all plug ins before calling anything a bug
it is rudimental

[Phosąfour dots]

"...rudimental..."

Heh...good one. I think I might be able to repurpose that as a fine neologism.

[Neil_...@adobeforums.com]

rudimental

Hey, I like it, too! It's an impolite psychiatric disorder, no?

Sorry, guys, I couldn't resist...

Neil <g>

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

Hmmm… I use it all the time. Didn't know it's supposed to be exotic.

ru·di·ment (rd-mnt)
n.
1. A fundamental element, principle, or skill, as of a field of learning.
Often used in the plural.
2. Something in an incipient or undeveloped form. Often used in the plural:
the rudiments of social behavior in children; the rudiments of a plan
of action.
3. Biology An imperfectly or incompletely developed organ or part.

[Latin rudmentum, from rudis, rough, unformed.]

rudi·mental (-mntl) adj.

[Neil_...@adobeforums.com]

Thanks, Ramón.

I had never seen "rudimental". I've seen "rudimentary". My dictionary doesn't even recognize the former.

<scolding>Bad dictionary. Bad!</scolding>

Neil

[Phosąfour dots]

I'm with Neil... I can't recall EVER hearing or reading the "rudimental" form of the word.

[Doug...@adobeforums.com]

Ergo, your mastery of the word is rudimental, Phos. (see defs. 2. and 3. in Post #14)

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

In my experience, rudimentary has the connotation of #1 in the above definition (repeated below); rudimental stresses the connotation in #2 and #3.

ru搞i搶ent (rd-mnt)

n.
1. A fundamental element, principle, or skill, as of a field of learning.
Often used in the plural.
2. Something in an incipient or undeveloped form. Often used in the
plural: the rudiments of social behavior in children; the rudiments of
a plan of action.
3. Biology An imperfectly or incompletely developed organ or part.

[Latin rudmentum, from rudis, rough, unformed.]

rudi搶ental (-mntl) adj.

[Phosąfour dots]

I rather like thinking of L.T. as rudimental. That's more fun-like.

%D

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

That would be more like rude and mental, not rudimental. :D

[Phosąfour dots]

It works both ways, if you like having fun toying with semantics and alternate word meanings.

[prog...@adobeforums.com]

Or alternative endings even.

[Buko]

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