overlay images?

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Any bright ideas how to make this barn look like its part of the peeling paint? i tried overlay, multiply and just about every other blend mode, but nothing looks like what i see from other people compositing things like this. the barn never looks like its painted on the paint chips.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1NPE15IBhRqOQC13X2ZX35cYJFf>

[Ann_She...@adobeforums.com]

Try the "Darker Color" or "Color Burn" layer modes — and reduce opacity.

[Allen...@adobeforums.com]

Also try painting on a new layer using the Clone Stamp tool with various opacities/fill of the tool and of the layer itself.

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1pjxLUejF71t6sdCHhBnNdJkwt1qJJ1>

this?

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Yes ramona, along those lines. what exactly did you do for that version?

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

I layered with the texture on top and added a mask ... then I used the brush tool with a 35% opacity and blended.

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

What do you mean by blended? do you mean brushed away certain areas to reveal the barn or a blending mode choice.

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

brushed away with a soft round brush .. I'm sure it can be done better, .. I didn't spend a lot of time on it .. and probably better with a textured brush rather than just a soft round.

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Okay,thanks for your suggestions.

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

I hope it helped! ... you gonna show us the final?

[Ho]

Donald, this is EXACTLY the sort of thing the Advanced Blending function is for in the layers palette.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1OUTsELIvpXdOS85lwzqDoBc7tgfHe>

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Is there a big difference between that area and using the layers palette blending modes? i am not sure of the difference between the two. nice job by the way.

[Ho]

Yes. The "blend if" sliders at the bottom affect the interaction pixels on different layers in ways that the usual blending modes do not. You really can't duplicate the look (easily) any other way.

<http://www.panosfx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=82&Itemid=29>

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Thanks

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

Ho, do you use this blending on the entire image or do you use a mask and then adjust the blending?

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Dont hammer me too hard. i usually would never even try this sort of thing, but maybe the owner will like it. its my first attempt and yes it does give more control. thanks again.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=12WAZW5il03oikM67OpmGSap58vF>

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

Here's my quick stab at it.

church-test.psd <http://www.silkrooster.com/adobe-forums/church-test.psd>

I used the luminosity from the channels to create a mask. I did use a brush to remove the edges of the boards on the mask it self.

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

Oops That jpg was with a white background. here it is with a black background which matches the psd file.

[Wade_Zi...@adobeforums.com]

Donald the colors are too saturated for a peeling painting it is perhaps conceptually not quite correct, it should have some sense of vibrance but not be vibrant.

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

Here is one that is done to the church only.

church only psd <http://www.silkrooster.com/adobe-forums/church-test-churchonly.psd>

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

"Church"? Silly me, I thought it was a barn.

[Ann_She...@adobeforums.com]

This is what happens if you overlay the church in "Darker Color" mode at 50% Opacity plus a touch of "Blend if �.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1V2GgQzQ3k9wrg90TMfLd3dRzVv0>

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

Don't ask me why I thought it was a church.

[Ho]

Ho, do you use this blending on the entire image or do you use a mask
and then adjust the blending?

Normally the former, but it's really image dependant.

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

I thought it a church too!

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Just an old barn/garage from bygone days. I love all the various interpretations offered. now i need to try them myself.

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Silkrooster, would you care to explain how i could end up with the white version you posted in 16? I like Anns too,but there again i cannot quite match the look.

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

The background layer is filled with white instead of black.

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

If white is too intense you could try a darker shade of gray or put a white filled layer above the black layer and use opacity as a visual way to decide on the amount of white.

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

my fav is #17 ... i am presuming black is the background layer.
I'm looking through my shots to try and find something to do this with!! ha ha! and dangit ... I don't have the time! ;) I should be working on a mardi gras ball. I guess it never hurts to take a break! :)

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Silkrooster, i do not know what you mean in post 27? I have been basically dragging one photo onto the other and trying the blending dialog ho shared, but what are you adding to that mix?

[Ramon...@adobeforums.com]

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1GTb2KyJ9AcwN8sOJktQsvqONcIbVj0>

a Break!! ;)

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

The psd file is in post #16 just below the image. That psd is for post #17. Sorry if I am confusing anyone. I decided to leave post 16 as is just for another option. There is no psd for #16. The only difference between the two image is the color of the background layer.

Here is a break down image. Maybe this will help any new users reading this.

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Ramona,that looks good.

Silkrooster. i will review that when i have more sleep. looks complicated, and even though it shows what was done, i like to hear why choices are made to reach a result. helps me grasp things. thanks for your time on that.

[Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com]

Darned forum margins busters!

Silkrooster, please use thumbnails like at Pixentral, or reduce the suze of your images before posting them here. >:(

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1e3RMaYXb4rjAkdEOwcxURNx8W3J1>

[Ann_She...@adobeforums.com]

I like Anns too,but there again i cannot quite match the look.

There are some new Layer Modes in the later versions of Photoshop — but I am not sure in which version they first appeared.

I used "Darker Color" (where which ever Layer holds the DARKER color in overlying pixels predominates ; but there us also a "Lighter Color" Mode in which the Lighter Pixel takes precedence.

"Lighter Color" Mode would produce this effect where the lighter tones gain prominence and, in this case, the white paint (which was in fact the UNDER-layer totally over-powers the barn which only shows up when it covers bare wood.

Posts just for interest because its not what you want for this image but could be if you had a white church and a dark texture underneath.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1GmJAwCbk0Fiw3TONccbM8KeokUCQb0>

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

I really like everyones input on this. the one thing i wish i could pull off would be actually only having the barn appear on the paint itself,but i guess that would require a lot of layer mask brushing. i still want to try replicating a few of these attempts.

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Silkrooster, again thanks for trying but i think some of this layer stuff is beyond what i have tried. for instance, i am not sure how the mask behind the barn layer is the paint chips? i usually apply a layer mask to hide or reveal things, so i would expect that mask to look white behind the barn. dont get too concerned trying to teach me some of these techniques. i will hash them out when i have time to delve deeper,which should be in another twenty years or so.

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Silkrooster, i did attempt what i thought were certain ideas you conveyed and they did help. i think this is my final attempt at this project which was strictly for fun. too much time invested,but it was fun seeing different ideas on a subject.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1hTYhh1ucCD43TQaUfQu0ZuTws6qj>

[Wade_Zi...@adobeforums.com]

That is actually pretty good from a technique and conceptual point of view.

[L...@adobeforums.com]

I like what you ended up doing Donald.

As as side note, it's been refreshing to see the camaraderie in this forum recently. And generous advice both here and in the Mac thread, and others. This is the kind of spirit that made these forums so special in the first place. So happy to see it returning.

[Wade_Zi...@adobeforums.com]

So happy to see it returning.

I think I can fix this…let me think about the best and strongest way of going about this

[L...@adobeforums.com]

I think I can fix this…let me think about the best and strongest way of
going about this

:-)

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Thanks, i am always amazed how your perception can change when you see someone else put their spin on something. I definitely like my second attempt better, but i dont know if i could repeat it if i had too.

[Wade_Zi...@adobeforums.com]

You would be able to repeat it even if at first you screw it up it would all come back to you and things would fall into place.

[Ann_She...@adobeforums.com]

I think that the technique that Wade is talking about that lets you map an image to another grayscale texture or shaded object could be Filter/Distort/Displace?

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

If the texture was repeatable you might be able to use the texture filter or pattern fill.
Donald have you tried just overlaying the texture over top of the barn and lowering the opacity. The texture would not be as strong but it may be another way to go. The advantage would be no masks. But if you want to get rid of the edges of the boards then I believe masks may be the way to go.
There are so may ways to accomplish this, some better than others.

[Donald...@adobeforums.com]

Yes, i have no trouble with masks, but when you got into the white and black fill layer, that was new to me. at first i hated the board lines, then on my second attempt,i thought it was a little funky to not have them showing. i am anxious to see if the property owner likes it or hates it. either way it was fun experimenting.

[Silkr...@adobeforums.com]

Because the mask was applied directly to the barn image what ever thats beneath it will effect the finale image.
The wood texture is actually removing portion of the barn image therefore a white fill or black fill would show through.
Experimenting is always fun for me anyways. :)