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Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

sandra.mul...@oracle.com (Sandra Muller) — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 10:52:49 UT

Re: [ADF EMG] Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

aino.andries...@gmail.com (Aino) — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:38:42 UT

Hi Chris,
Thanks for the debugging suggestion.
Thanks also for the working sets suggestion. Is there a way to easily share
the working sets with team members?
I noticed that the working-set configuration is not stored in the
application's .jws file (but in the one in the o.ide directory)
Ciao
Aino

Re: [ADF EMG] Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

chris.broadb...@oracle.com (Chris Broadbent) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:35:31 UT

Chris,
Fusion apps breaks their code down by development team with each
dev team having a small number of workspaces. They then have a
cross-team build process that pulls it all together. The JDeveloper &
WebCenter teams both use a single workspace with many projects....but
then again, we're talking fewer developers/modules. JDev currently has

Re: [ADF EMG] Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

chris.broadb...@oracle.com (Chris Broadbent) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:22:55 UT

Aino,
One way around this is open both your main workspace and the ADF
library workspace in Jdeveloper.
* set break points in your ADF Library source
* right-click on the break points & set the scope to "global"
* when you debug your main project, it should now halt at your
breakpoints.

Re: [ADF EMG] Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

chriscm...@gmail.com (Chris Muir) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:34:11 UT

I agree, I haven't yet found out how you can debug through the ADF
Library.jar taskflow source code. I note the ADF Library Jars don't
seem to include the source code. On creating the ADF Library Jar
deployment profile in the project properties, it's missing the option
to include the source code unlike the normal Jar deployment profile.

Re: [ADF EMG] Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

aino.andries...@gmail.com (Aino) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:27:56 UT

Hi,
Putting taskflows in separate projects and 'deploy' them as ADF libraries is
a real good practice.
However, with nested taskflows, we experienced problems when debugging; i.e.
the main webapplication was not able to find the sources of the nested
taskflow.
Anybody having the same experiences or did we just do something wrong ;-( ?

Re: [ADF EMG] Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

chriscm...@gmail.com (Chris Muir) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:39:36 UT

As further follow up Steve Muench presented "Best Practices from
Fusion Applicaitons" at OOW09 where he discussed among other things
the Fusion App architecture.
See slide 5: [link]
Andrejus recorded the presentation here:

Re: [ADF EMG] Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

chriscm...@gmail.com (Chris Muir) — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:29:04 UT

Hi Romano
A VC just like a model project can be turned into an ADF Library and
pulled into another VC.
How we see it is your logical application is made up a number of
bounded task flows + one master application (containing a single
unbounded task flow) that brings them altogether (or in other words

Re: Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

romano.lo...@gmail.com (Romano Londt) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 14:40:41 UT

Hi Chris,
Thanx for the quick response. I have read the thread you suggested
and, in combination with you comments, it cleared my view on
application lay-outs.
JHS uses ApplicationDefinition files, in which AM's are referenced for
the generated TF's, pageDefs and jspx's.
These are generated in one VC-project. Splitting the TF's from the

Re: [ADF EMG] Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

chriscm...@gmail.com (Chris Muir) — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:00:07 UT

Hi Romano
I take it given your comments about "remote task flows" and "working
sets" when searching the group you found the following thread?:
[link]
Re-reading the thread, it is somewhat confusing as I over used the
concept of "remote task flows". What we were implying at the time as

Re: [ADF EMG] Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

andrejus.baranovs...@gmail.com (Andrejus Baranovskis) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:54:04 UT

Hi Romano,
I have series of posts for this topic:
[link]
Hope it will be helpful.
Regards,
Andrejus
2010/1/4 Romano Londt <romano.lo...@gmail.com>

Splitting ADF/JHS applications over multiple projects/workspaces

romano.lo...@gmail.com (Romano Londt) — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:11:36 UT

Hi all,
I have searched this group with external links for the perfect
solution of how to split the various applications we are creating with
ADF/JHS 11g.
Unfortunately I have not found the answer I was looking/hoping for..
The main points suggesting remote-taskflows or using jdev working
sets. The first one I do not fully understand and the last one does

Re: How many ADF library versions on one WLS installation?

jm.desv...@gcc.mu (Jean-Marc) — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:57:08 UT

We use ESX for Dev/Test and Production for all Oracle ASs all on
Network Storage and it works well.
I can't see much risks of doing so and I see lots of advantages like
cloning, deduplication, recovery etc...
Though it helps, it does not solved the problem of dealing with new
releases.
Last 11.1.1.1 installation and integration with OID 10.1.4 and SSO

Re: Testing

howie.le...@gmail.com (Howie Legge) — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:56:00 UT

'This probably rules it out for most smaller ADF projects.'
I suspect so!

Re: Testing

sim...@veriton.co.uk (Simon Haslam) — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:44:46 UT

On a purely commercial level don't forget Oracle Application Testing
Suite needs to be licensed too - last time I looked it was about 8,000
USD per developer but you'd need to check that. This probably rules it
out for most smaller ADF projects.
Simon