I think we need to start up multiple thread for each component which is not
licensed
and how to achieve it functionality without buying license like ADF
Security , scalability , clustering.
Thanks, Hasim
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Stephen Johnson <sjohn...@integretasinc.com
> wrote:
> I'm sure the ADF security is one of the main things people will miss, but
> it's not the only way to secure an app, and I'm sure you'll see lots of
> discussion about it in the ADF community over the weeks and months ahead.
> In the meantime the question to ask is "How would I secure my app if I
> wasn't using ADF?"
> We've already begun plans to use it for a couple of apps we had been
> looking at LAMP for, and security is one thing we'll have to figure out,
> but we're ok with that.
> Stephen Johnson
> Sent from I, Pad
> On Sep 24, 2012, at 11:13 AM, hasim <hsai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is great news.but at the same time , I would read "What is included
> in Oracle ADF Essentials?".
> I would more consider is at trial version for production rather than free
> , I don't know how one will define security
> without ADF security for taskflow. But this is good way forward so that
> ADF can be adopted by SME for production
> deployment for testing.
> Thanks, Hasim
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Stephen Johnson <
> sjohn...@integretasinc.com> wrote:
>> And there needs to be a blog/site/group or something called "Oracle GEX
>> for Oracle Geeks".
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 10:29:07 AM UTC-4, Stephen Johnson wrote:
>>> ReI think that’s a good acronym, provided we pronounce it “Geeks”. J
>>> So anybody going to come up with a sexy name to compete with LAMP? We've
>>> a free version of the db, a free Java server, and now a free JSF framework.
>>> I'm got GEX so far.
>>> CM.
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> On Monday, September 24, 2012 10:07:51 PM UTC+2, Stephen Johnson wrote:
>> So it’s up to the developers to make sure they’re not using any of the
>> ADF features not available in Essentials, there’s nothing in JDev 11.1.2.3
>> that prevents using the limited features?
>> >>Are these new features already built into ADF 11.1.2.3.0 ?
>> There is no separate version of ADF libraries for the Essentials edition
>> and the regular one.
>> The only "new feature" that Essentials has and the full ADF doesn't is
>> the ability to deploy to GlassFish.
>> Shay
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 10:56:49 AM UTC-7, nnalamgm wrote:
>> The features given in this are great. But, if we already have Licensed
>> version of ADF, how can we integrate these features into our ADF ? Are
>> these new features already built into ADF 11.1.2.3.0 ?
>> Thanks
>> Naresh
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Dave <dvdw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Luc Bors <lucb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shay,
> Short question.
> I couldn't find t in the release notes, nor have I been able to test it
> yet, but is there full support for ADF libraries, and thus for modular
> development and reuse ?
> Op 24 sep. 2012 22:05 schreef "Shay Shmeltzer" <shay.shmelt...@oracle.com>
> het volgende:
> >>Are these new features already built into ADF 11.1.2.3.0 ?
>> There is no separate version of ADF libraries for the Essentials edition
>> and the regular one.
>> The only "new feature" that Essentials has and the full ADF doesn't is
>> the ability to deploy to GlassFish.
>> Shay
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 10:56:49 AM UTC-7, nnalamgm wrote:
>>> The features given in this are great. But, if we already have Licensed
>>> version of ADF, how can we integrate these features into our ADF ? Are
>>> these new features already built into ADF 11.1.2.3.0 ?
>>> Thanks
>>> Naresh
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Dave <dvdw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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To add to Shay's response on Security, I just want to expand a bit on the
Web Services comment.
As mentioned in the FAQ pointed to by Shay, the Web Service Data Control is
not available in ADF Essentials. However, for SOAP services, you can
generated a proxy class and wrap that with a Bean Data Control to achieve
similar results with just a little more effort.
Also, note that for REST services, the "URL" Data control is included in
ADF Essentials and supported on GlassFish.
-- Brian
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Shay Shmeltzer
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> We might be adding more components into ADF Essentials in the future -
> though I can't provide details or commitment on this right now.
> Shay
> On Monday, September 24, 2012 1:40:55 PM UTC-7, jhon.carrillo wrote:
>> I understood the ADF Essentials running on GlashFish does not support
>> the following features:
>> - ADF Security
>> - Web Services Control
>> And What else?
>> another question is:
>> How can we manage the security without ADF Security?
>> Jhon
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There's no automated tooling to help make sure you are not using ADF
features that are not available in ADF Essentials (yet!). There are two
things to watch for here:
1) Some familiar ADF components are covered by the ADF Essentials license
agreement, some are not. See this list:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/adf/overview/compon... To legally run an ADF Essentials application you need to abide by the
license terms which means using only the ADF Essentials licensed
components.
In both cases, each restriction was carefully considered. Our goal is to
create a compelling offering that helps drive and grow ADF adoption.
Building out the ADF ecosystem and community is good for all of us!
-- Brian
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Chad Thompson <chad_thomp...@mac.com>wrote:
> On Sep 24, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Stephen Johnson <sjohn...@integretasinc.com>
> wrote:
> So it’s up to the developers to make sure they’re not using any of the ADF
> features not available in Essentials, there’s nothing in JDev 11.1.2.3 that
> prevents using the limited features?****
> Partially (similar to other Oracle licensing) - but I'm also guessing that
> one reason that some of the "non-Essential" parts of ADF are not available
> for GlassFish deployment is the dependencies that some of them have on
> WebLogic. For example, I can see where the ADF Security features that rely
> on OPSS/WebLogic would need to be 'ported' to GlassFish - so attempting to
> use OPSS with an Essentials / GlassFish deployment simply wouldn't work.
> … and if you're deploying to WebLogic, the "Essentials" tag is
> meaningless, because you have a full ADF license anyway!
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>> We might be adding more components into ADF Essentials in the future - though I can't provide details or commitment on this right now.
>> Shay
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 1:40:55 PM UTC-7, jhon.carrillo wrote:
>>> I understood the ADF Essentials running on GlashFish does not support the following features:
>>> - ADF Security
>>> - Web Services Control
>>> And What else?
>>> another question is:
>>> How can we manage the security without ADF Security?
>>> Jhon
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>> We might be adding more components into ADF Essentials in the future - >> though I can't provide details or commitment on this right now.
>> Shay
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 1:40:55 PM UTC-7, jhon.carrillo wrote:
>>> I understood the ADF Essentials running on GlashFish does not support
>>> the following features:
>>> - ADF Security
>>> - Web Services Control
>>> And What else?
>>> another question is:
>>> How can we manage the security without ADF Security?
>>> Jhon
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We might be adding more components into ADF Essentials in the future - though I can't provide details or commitment on this right now.
Shay
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I understood the ADF Essentials running on GlashFish does not support the following features:
- ADF Security
- Web Services Control
And What else?
another question is:
How can we manage the security without ADF Security?
Jhon
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> I LIKE it. Except that you can use Eclipse with OEPE too, not just
> JDeveloper.****
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Of course, security is part of just about every app. The primary reason ADF
Security is not included is because it has direct dependencies on OPSS,
which in turn has deep dependencies on WLS.
Please note that the lack of ADF Security in ADF Essentials does *not *mean
that you can't secure your ADF Essentials apps. See Shay's comments below.
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Ramesh K <rkancha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great news, I wish ADF security was part of it too, just because not many
> applications are built these days without security.
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Amr Gawish <amr.gaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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first of all: thx to Oracle making ADF Essentials become reality. One great opportunity that comes right into mind is beeing able to run ADF Applications in the cloud for free. Finally ;)
Thanks to Ulrich Gerkmann-Bartels he had the idea of setting up ADF Essentials on Glassfish on RedHats Openshift, since at this time it looks really promising for running Glassfish.
In the end actually it really worked. we have managed to run ADF Essentials on RedHats OpenShift Cloud. Feel free to do it on your own.
I understand the dependencies and I do understand that we can implement the
security in other ways as mentioned, but page defination file and bounded
task flows are specific to ADF and implementing security with ADF security
is easy compared to other choices. I hope this will be included in future...
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Brian Fry <bfryb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course, security is part of just about every app. The primary reason
> ADF Security is not included is because it has direct dependencies on OPSS,
> which in turn has deep dependencies on WLS.
> Please note that the lack of ADF Security in ADF Essentials does *not *mean
> that you can't secure your ADF Essentials apps. See Shay's comments below.
> -- Brian
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Ramesh K <rkancha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Great news, I wish ADF security was part of it too, just because not many
>> applications are built these days without security.
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Amr Gawish <amr.gaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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